Re: [MBZ] 210/211
2005 was ok, but 2003-4 should be avoided. 2006 is much better overall. Jaime On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Right now, if I could find a decent 2001-2002 S210 4matic for $5000 or so I'd probably buy it. The 01-02 version rusts less than the original 210, doesn't it? You might just avoid the whole 210 fiasco by buying a 2003 or newer... Don't even think about a W211 2003-2005. After that's OK. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
Jaime Kopchinski wrote: 2005 was ok, but 2003-4 should be avoided. 2006 is much better overall. What about 210? Was the rust/paint issue better in some years? Wiring? Anything else improved over time? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose
Been using powdered graphite on threads for years. While others were installing helicoils in their stripped out Beetle heads, the plugs in mine were coming out easily. The antiseize of the 1050s-60s didn't work very well. Never had problems with bleeder screws; probably because the cars lived in Florida. Gerry From: Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com Nice story. Antiseize on the bleeder screw. Makes me nervous. Makes me nervous NOT to have anti-seize on the bleeders. They break off very easily. As Jim said, you put it on the threads, not on the sealing surface. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose
The antiseize of the 1050s-60s didn't work very well. Bear grease? :-) Heat heat was probably a killer, this application doesn't have that, naturally. Never had problems with bleeder screws; They salt here, now. Wanted all the help I could get. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
What is wrong with 03-04? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:45 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: 2005 was ok, but 2003-4 should be avoided. 2006 is much better overall. Jaime On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 10:45 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: Right now, if I could find a decent 2001-2002 S210 4matic for $5000 or so I'd probably buy it. The 01-02 version rusts less than the original 210, doesn't it? You might just avoid the whole 210 fiasco by buying a 2003 or newer... Don't even think about a W211 2003-2005. After that's OK. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
I don't have any issues with my 2 99 and 97 210, although I will say the 99 320 does have a couple of rust spots but they have not gotten any bigger. The e430 and e300 do not. No wiring harness issues Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: 2005 was ok, but 2003-4 should be avoided. 2006 is much better overall. What about 210? Was the rust/paint issue better in some years? Wiring? Anything else improved over time? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
I think the W210 is a pretty handsome looking car especially the rear and side. Much better looking than a 211 but here in Boston the 210 rusts like mad so I could never own one. Too bad. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:45 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: I don't have any issues with my 2 99 and 97 210, although I will say the 99 320 does have a couple of rust spots but they have not gotten any bigger. The e430 and e300 do not. No wiring harness issues Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Jaime Kopchinski wrote: 2005 was ok, but 2003-4 should be avoided. 2006 is much better overall. What about 210? Was the rust/paint issue better in some years? Wiring? Anything else improved over time? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Heating
Lake effect snow is usually limited to a band maybe 20-30 miles from the shore, although in some areas a combination of topography and winds can take it farther. We lived on the shores of Lake Michigan for six years, and rarely saw it, mainly because we were on the western shore and the prevailing winds were west to east. However, the effect of the large body of water on our weather was still noticeable, as the lake temperature tempered our ambient. Listening to the weather the phrase, Cooler by the lake was quite common. That being said, it did work to our advantage most of the time. It kept things cool in the summer, and also reduced the effects of snowfall by a factor of as much as 50% or more compared with 5-10 miles inland. We didn't install AC in the house until about three years after we moved in, as it was rarely needed because of the lake breezes. The only negative I can recall was it taking a lot longer to warm up in the summer, as it could easily be in the 80s inland but only 60 at our house. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 8:34 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Curt Raymond wrote: How wide is Michigan? I'm probably 80-90 miles from Lake Michigan and over 100 miles from Lake Huron. Lake effect snow mainly falls on people within 20-30 miles of Lake Michigan, and the temperate zone is probably about the same width. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
My last house (4500 sf) had a 400 amp service, for what I don't know. Didn't have electric heat, had forced air, and only one AC unit. Dan Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2011, at 8:10 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote: On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 18:57:22 -0600 Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote: Scott and Gwen Ritchey wrote: A 200 amp service entrance is pretty-much standard so that's probably what you have. Standard as of when? Not everyone lives in a 15 year old house. -- Philip, in a house that was old when it was electrified. Our house was built in 1959 with a 60 Amp service. We upgraged it this summer to 200 Amps. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
Yes, I think those are the ones I looked at. The only problem with them is that for the size I need it would not split to enough cooling points inside. If I remember two smaller units would also not split enough, can't really remember now. Then there was also the problem that I did want to use geothermal cooling which was and as far as I know still is not available in those type of units. The other down side of those units is they pump freon around rather then chilled water. With the water units the individual cooling units can be over-sized due to the self throttling of the water flow. That way a smaller chiller can be used since not all the units will be going full out at any one time and probably not at any time due to the shape of and insulation in my house (dome). In the winter any heating needed can also be done using the same system. It would also be a lot easier to make changes in the system to see what might be a better location of cooling units. Yeah I do like to experiment and see 'what if'. Manfred Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:02:56 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT There is a system called a mini-split or multi-split that sounds like what you are describing. It doesnt work with your radiators but it's an installed outdoor unit connected to one or more interior units. I believe they can work in AC and/or heating modes. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. Well, I think you have convinced me! I tremble every time I crack open a bleeder that looks rusty. I will start applying the antiseize from now on. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
I am going to put a mini-split heat pump system in my addition, 4 9+9+12+12 kBTU head units, the outside unit is 36k and it can throttle down pretty low. I gotta order the lines and cabling soon to get it in the walls. My calculations show the whole thing needing only 18k to heat/cool it, so this should be enough to add a bit to the rest of the house when it is cranking. These things are pretty efficient and easy to install in new work, and even in existing houses if you can easily route the lines from outside or a basement or something. --R On 12/4/11 11:27 AM, MG wrote: Yes, I think those are the ones I looked at. The only problem with them is that for the size I need it would not split to enough cooling points inside. If I remember two smaller units would also not split enough, can't really remember now. Then there was also the problem that I did want to use geothermal cooling which was and as far as I know still is not available in those type of units. The other down side of those units is they pump freon around rather then chilled water. With the water units the individual cooling units can be over-sized due to the self throttling of the water flow. That way a smaller chiller can be used since not all the units will be going full out at any one time and probably not at any time due to the shape of and insulation in my house (dome). In the winter any heating needed can also be done using the same system. It would also be a lot easier to make changes in the system to see what might be a better location of cooling units. Yeah I do like to experiment and see 'what if'. Manfred Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 22:02:56 -0500 From: Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT There is a system called a mini-split or multi-split that sounds like what you are describing. It doesnt work with your radiators but it's an installed outdoor unit connected to one or more interior units. I believe they can work in AC and/or heating modes. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-Virus for Android
Anyone? Mike On Dec 3, 2011 5:35 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I am no computer genius so I have no real clue here. What I have been told is that Android doesn't need anti virus software for the same reasons as a Mac. Is this true and what are those reasons? I use my Android every day, all day for my parts sales and I have no problems. It is my only connection with the internet as it will tether the pc via usb. With the PC I keep the firewall on and run Malwarebytes and Spywareblaster every now and then. With the Mac I just don't seem to have to worry about it. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
How about just the tip? Sorry, I couldn't help myself:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. Well, I think you have convinced me! I tremble every time I crack open a bleeder that looks rusty. I will start applying the antiseize from now on. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-Virus for Android
I have a different perspective. I believe that anything on a machine connected to the internet is not secure, and therefore, the only thing that should be on your internet connected device, (firewalls notwithstanding) should only be information that you have no objection if it was broadcast in print, over the air by radio or tv, by town crier or other form of communication. As was previously mentioned, Android is open for anyone to write malware. The malware for smartphones is in its infancy, so be prepared for increasing attacks. Mac is less attacked because it represents a less lucrative target. Android is the fastest growing target. Not a place where I'd want to be. I do not, and will not conduct banking type transactions over the internet. In spite of the precautions taken banking/investment is a juicy target to malware. It is well known that email is insecure, and therefore should contain only information that can be broadcast to the world. I extend that to all internet connected devices. A hacker can gain access to any target if they want in badly enough. Almost everyone else will say your odds of being attacked are slim. They might be now, but Androids will be attacked. They already have been attacked by mal-applications. Anyone? Mike On Dec 3, 2011 5:35 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I am no computer genius so I have no real clue here. What I have been told is that Android doesn't need anti virus software for the same reasons as a Mac. Is this true and what are those reasons? I use my Android every day, all day for my parts sales and I have no problems. It is my only connection with the internet as it will tether the pc via usb. With the PC I keep the firewall on and run Malwarebytes and Spywareblaster every now and then. With the Mac I just don't seem to have to worry about it. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
If you do just the tip Your Fuzes WILL MELT :-D On 12/4/2011 11:36 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: How about just the tip? Sorry, I couldn't help myself:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. Well, I think you have convinced me! I tremble every time I crack open a bleeder that looks rusty. I will start applying the antiseize from now on. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4056 - Release Date: 12/04/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
$1000? $1200? http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2699288700.html Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
Tell me about it' Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 1:19 PM, Russ Williams rawil...@eatel.net wrote: If you do just the tip Your Fuzes WILL MELT :-D On 12/4/2011 11:36 AM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: How about just the tip? Sorry, I couldn't help myself:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:38 AM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. Well, I think you have convinced me! I tremble every time I crack open a bleeder that looks rusty. I will start applying the antiseize from now on. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4056 - Release Date: 12/04/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
That could be a good beater, sadly. For $1550 you could probably get your money out of it, even if you just bang out the dinged parts. --R On 12/4/11 1:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: $1000? $1200? http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2699288700.html Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
What about using pipe-sealing teflon tape on the bleeder threads? That would not tend to migrate to anywhere else, would it? Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-Virus for Android
Android has more malware than IOS (iPhone/iPad) apps because it is more open. Apple curates the apps that can be sold in the App Store and if they don't follow Apple's programming standards they are not allowed. I would assume this includes a check for any kind of malicious activity, but that sort of thing can be hidden pretty well by a smart programmer. I imagine we will see malware on IOS eventually. That said, if you only use mainstream apps from well-known publishers, you are going to be safer than if you download every ooohh, that's cool game that catches your eye. Allan Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com writes: Anyone? Mike On Dec 3, 2011 5:35 PM, Michael Canfield slozuk...@gmail.com wrote: I am no computer genius so I have no real clue here. What I have been told is that Android doesn't need anti virus software for the same reasons as a Mac. Is this true and what are those reasons? I use my Android every day, all day for my parts sales and I have no problems. It is my only connection with the internet as it will tether the pc via usb. With the PC I keep the firewall on and run Malwarebytes and Spywareblaster every now and then. With the Mac I just don't seem to have to worry about it. Mike ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
Many professionals I know won't use tape anywhere. The little shreds go everywhere. They cause problems in gas valves, hydraulics etc. What about using pipe-sealing teflon tape on the bleeder threads? That would not tend to migrate to anywhere else, would it? Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
I like that idea. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: What about using pipe-sealing teflon tape on the bleeder threads? That would not tend to migrate to anywhere else, would it? Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
Dan Penoff wrote: My last house (4500 sf) had a 400 amp service, for what I don't know. Theater lights? A really, really big welder? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That could be a good beater, sadly. For $1550 you could probably get your money out of it, even if you just bang out the dinged parts. On 12/4/11 1:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: $1000? $1200? http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2699288700.html I'd be all over that. My next car purchase is almost certainly going to be a W210 E320 or E430 4Matic. I'd like a post-facelift '00 or later if I can find one without the Sport package (don't want the lower suspension or bigger wheels) and navigation crap. But the one in the CL ad would do for the time being. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
What's actually being sold? A 210 with a 4 liter V8 and 3rd row drop seats or a paddock basher, with one of the good ole boys hanging out of the sunroof with a rifle in hand, hunting them there critters? Hendrik who needs to fix a sunroof Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 11:20 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: That could be a good beater, sadly. For $1550 you could probably get your money out of it, even if you just bang out the dinged parts. On 12/4/11 1:22 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: $1000? $1200? http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2699288700.html I'd be all over that. My next car purchase is almost certainly going to be a W210 E320 or E430 4Matic. I'd like a post-facelift '00 or later if I can find one without the Sport package (don't want the lower suspension or bigger wheels) and navigation crap. But the one in the CL ad would do for the time being. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://swmi.craigslist.org/cto/2699288700.html I'd be all over that. Or these? http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/2735075836.html http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/2699927294.html http://detroit.craigslist.org/mcb/cto/2732104885.html http://annarbor.craigslist.org/cto/2671525768.html http://eugene.craigslist.org/ctd/2709112518.html http://spokane.craigslist.org/cto/2730993277.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
Hendrik Fay wrote: What's actually being sold? A 210 with a 4 liter V8 and 3rd row drop seats or a paddock basher, with one of the good ole boys hanging out of the sunroof with a rifle in hand, hunting them there critters? Yeah, the 3rd row seating and 4 liter V8 were rather confusing when the subject was E320 and the pic was a W210 sedan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
A 400 amp service was/is the trendy thing in mcMansions. they get lots of breaker spaces for all the circuits that are supposed to be on a dedicated circuit. Stove, dryer, MW, DW, A/C 1, A/c2, A/C 3, entertainment center 1, 2 and 3. swimming pool equipment, hot tub, water heaters 1, 2 and 3, Garage door openers 1,2 and 3, then add on whatever is the latest thing. I count 29 breaker spaces just for the stuff I mentioned. Then there are lights and outlets. I wonder what the service entrances look like in albore's mansion. at 20,000 dollars a month, that is a lot of amps. Dan Penoff wrote: My last house (4500 sf) had a 400 amp service, for what I don't know. Theater lights? A really, really big welder? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/2735075836.html That plus a Rustified transmission could be a good deal, but, sadly, Seattle is a little far for me to go with a U-Haul trailer unless I know what I'm getting into beforehand. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
- Original Message - From: Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 3:47 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT Dan Penoff wrote: My last house (4500 sf) had a 400 amp service, for what I don't know. Theater lights? Grow house? Gerry A really, really big welder? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4056 - Release Date: 12/04/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: That plus a Rustified transmission could be a good deal, but, sadly, Seattle is a little far for me to go with a U-Haul trailer unless I know what I'm getting into beforehand. Many of the 5 speeds have electronic problems. But it might be hard to find out without replacing the circuit board, resetting the computer, and taking it for a drive. You might end up buying the electronics and then buying a rebuilt trans. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Euro C107, anyone?
http://www.falconautowholesale.com/en_us/unitDetail.asp?Unit=373913 This sure looks like it's in a lot better shape than the '80 I used to have. Hard to tell from the pictures, but the quarter window slats might not be flaking to pieces. Too bad it's not a stick, though if the Euro M110 wasn't messed with too badly by a gray-market importer it has plenty of power. Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
Apparently that is the standard now for big houses as they tend to have 2-200A panels for all the stuff in them. Interesting you had that service -- did you also have 2 panels+main breakers? --R On 12/4/11 3:47 PM, Fmiser wrote: Dan Penoff wrote: My last house (4500 sf) had a 400 amp service, for what I don't know. Theater lights? A really, really big welder? -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] what's this heap of W210 worth?
What's actually being sold? A 210 with a 4 liter V8 and 3rd row drop seats or a paddock basher, with one of the good ole boys hanging out of the sunroof with a rifle in hand, hunting them there critters? Hendrik who needs to fix a sunroof Dunno what is being sold, but the image of going out on a hunt in OZ with Hendrik in a E320 (or a G diesel) wagon hangin out the sunroof huntin critters shore sounds like fun to me! ( you might be a redneck if...) Some redneck values seem ok to me ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
Teflon tape should NOT be used in hydraulic systems. The seal effect relys on the cone shape of the tip and the area it sets in.. NOT the threads. More importantly, anti-seize compounds use materials that make a barrier against the thread and the body doing a rust weld and becoming one solid piece. Teflon does not do that, and in fact is not a very tough material.. ie. a teflon coated cooking pan must always use plastic food turners and such to keep from scratching through the surface. As soon as you thread the bleeder fitting on to the bore, it does exactly that, and you will have metal to metal contact that will rust in a salt / moisture environment. Grant... AZ... Where diesels roam free On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.comwrote: I like that idea. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 2:35 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: What about using pipe-sealing teflon tape on the bleeder threads? That would not tend to migrate to anywhere else, would it? Allan Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com writes: As Elmer Fudd used to say: Be vewy vewy careful Coat the threads, but not the tip. Actually, I think Elmer's quote is overdone. Just be careful to only put it on the threads. -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] inline/straight V6
http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2726400174.html -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
What are the bleeder screws actually made of? Brass? Steel? Do they so often get stuck due to galvanic action between dissimilar metals or simply rusting? G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com writes: Teflon tape should NOT be used in hydraulic systems. The seal effect relys on the cone shape of the tip and the area it sets in.. NOT the threads. More importantly, anti-seize compounds use materials that make a barrier against the thread and the body doing a rust weld and becoming one solid piece. Teflon does not do that, and in fact is not a very tough material.. ie. a teflon coated cooking pan must always use plastic food turners and such to keep from scratching through the surface. As soon as you thread the bleeder fitting on to the bore, it does exactly that, and you will have metal to metal contact that will rust in a salt / moisture environment. Grant... AZ... Where diesels roam free -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Frankenheap brake hose/ anti-seize on brake bleeders
They are made of steel but being hollow except for the conical seating surface at the base, they don't tolerate a lot of torque. They simply shear. This has happened to be at least three times and is a major pita. The last time it happened was on my pagoda. I couldn't get a replacement caliper soon enough for a pagoda gathering I organized so I drilled it out. I damaged the caliper threads a bit but it all came out leaving the conical seating surface unscathed. While bleeding some brake fluid would leak past the damaged threads but once tightened it formed an airtight leak free seal. I really don't care to have to deal with this problem again! Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 5:45 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: What are the bleeder screws actually made of? Brass? Steel? Do they so often get stuck due to galvanic action between dissimilar metals or simply rusting? G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com writes: Teflon tape should NOT be used in hydraulic systems. The seal effect relys on the cone shape of the tip and the area it sets in.. NOT the threads. More importantly, anti-seize compounds use materials that make a barrier against the thread and the body doing a rust weld and becoming one solid piece. Teflon does not do that, and in fact is not a very tough material.. ie. a teflon coated cooking pan must always use plastic food turners and such to keep from scratching through the surface. As soon as you thread the bleeder fitting on to the bore, it does exactly that, and you will have metal to metal contact that will rust in a salt / moisture environment. Grant... AZ... Where diesels roam free -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CL idiot of the day
http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2735887852.html save this car no interest or affiliation clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
His english is phoneticized Iranian-English. On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:13 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2735887852.html save this car no interest or affiliation clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
What's an enjuion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
Sounds more Mexican to me. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:30 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: His english is phoneticized Iranian-English. On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 6:13 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2735887852.html save this car no interest or affiliation clay 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
Maybe it's a Cajun pronunciation. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What's an enjuion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
NO WAY Cajun On 12/4/2011 5:35 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: Maybe it's a Cajun pronunciation. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:21 PM, Dieselhead126die...@gmail.com wrote: What's an enjuion ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1411 / Virus Database: 2102/4057 - Release Date: 12/04/11 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
Further evidence the Department of Education has been enhanced with government billions and teachers unions, while the ACLU has ensured that no child was left in class at advancement time regardless of course work or class standing. Spelling is now an elective class, with Ebonics being one of the accepted word forms. Is this a great country or what? On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote: What's an enjuion __**_ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560SEC
You called it! think went for $3800. I was surprised, but then the ethnic folk were bidding up all the euro cars. Must be a bling thing. Engine bay had been pressure washed, and lots of the moving parts inside were resistant to moving. Guess the buyer got what he thinks is a deal. clay On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: $4000 because it's a sucky color and the car has no history. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:09 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: one is coming up at the vehicle auction around 112k on the clock. Can not find the hood release out front. Had the inside hood release lever working, but nobody on the lot could find the darn the tab in the grill. Where is this? Engine was smooth and really quiet. Interior is in good shape for a 1991 car. Color is not great, but paint is good. Gold with brown interior. Trunk is clean enough with no sign of water intrusion. What would you guys figure is a decent price for me to bow out on bidding? There is an S500 (2000) and a C230. but neither one looked worth it. S500 had duct tape holding the trunk shut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com writes: His english is phoneticized Iranian-English. I suppose different people are more or less forgiving of ads like this, but if I were posting to CL in a foreign country I'd have a trusted native speaker proofread it for me. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
Yup. That's what I remember. I was thinking that because of the size of the rooms and open areas I would need to get two of those units and then I would be at 3 tons over the amount of cooling needed. If there was one unit that could split into 8 that would work but still don't like the freon circulation. Manfred Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 11:42:44 -0500 From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT I am going to put a mini-split heat pump system in my addition, 4 9+9+12+12 kBTU head units, the outside unit is 36k and it can throttle down pretty low. I gotta order the lines and cabling soon to get it in the walls. My calculations show the whole thing needing only 18k to heat/cool it, so this should be enough to add a bit to the rest of the house when it is cranking. These things are pretty efficient and easy to install in new work, and even in existing houses if you can easily route the lines from outside or a basement or something. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com writes: still don't like the freon circulation. Why not? A heck of a lot easier to snake copper tubing through existing construction than to install ductwork. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
Spelling is now an elective class, with Ebonics being one of the accepted word forms. Which is humorous, since ebonics is derived from back country irish, but we claim it is african. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
Newer refrigerants are quite inert, so explosion/fire issues aren't that big. The worst problem I can foresee would be if a unit vented the entire charge in a closed room, in which case you would have oxygen displacement. Walt On Dec 4, 2011 6:51 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com writes: still don't like the freon circulation. Why not? A heck of a lot easier to snake copper tubing through existing construction than to install ductwork. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-Virus for Android
On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:44:45 -0500 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: That said, if you only use mainstream apps from well-known publishers, you are going to be safer than if you download every ooohh, that's cool game that catches your eye. That's not what http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/11/30/phone-rootkit-carrier-iq-may-have-violated-wiretap-law-in-millions-of-cases/ says. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-Virus for Android
Craig diese...@pisquared.net writes: On Sun, 04 Dec 2011 14:44:45 -0500 Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: That said, if you only use mainstream apps from well-known publishers, you are going to be safer than if you download every ooohh, that's cool game that catches your eye. That's not what http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2011/11/30/phone-rootkit-carrier-iq-may-have-violated-wiretap-law-in-millions-of-cases/ says. Heh. Believe it or not when I wrote that sentence I orginally had something in there about not trusting software from the carriers themselves as they clearly have incentive to sell your data to marketers and are in the best position to collect it. If I were to buy an Android device I would not buy it from a wireless carrier. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 211
...What is wrong with 03-04?.. Never ending electronic problems, for one thing. And some mechanical plus those brakes which were dropped I can't recall when. My info is from a friend's 2003 E500 Sport (wonderful when it wasn't sick) and the service people at my dealer. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
...I think the W210 is a pretty handsome looking car especially the rear and side. Much better looking than a 211.. I don't agree. The W211 is a much better car and far better looking. You really like the 210's face? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I forget, is Max in Norfolk?
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: http://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/2699927294.html __ Sorry no, I get up there once or twice a year but no plans to be there anytime soon. Price is right, probably a real money pit though. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '95 E300, '87 300TD ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
I like the 210 ok but still like a 124 140 126 better Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:52 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I think the W210 is a pretty handsome looking car especially the rear and side. Much better looking than a 211.. I don't agree. The W211 is a much better car and far better looking. You really like the 210's face? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I like the 210 ok but still like a 124 140 126 better I'm with Roger, the nose is what I don't like about the 210, think the front of a 211 looks better. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net writes: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I like the 210 ok but still like a 124 140 126 better I'm with Roger, the nose is what I don't like about the 210, think the front of a 211 looks better. I agree with Kaleb. I don't think anything in the newer chassis looks good, it just seems to look like what everyone else is building. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
Grant wrote: Is this a great country or what? You wish. If they could allow diversity, we might not have this shoved down our throats, but, no - we all gotta go to school and get educated by the gov't in their way of learning instead of some diversity. Some speak american english, some speak spanglish, some speak ebonics. Diversity - its what makes the world go around. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
No. I'm not a big fan of the headlights but I think that the rear and side is very elegant. The 211 is very run of the mill looking - almost camryesque. I know it's a better car though. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 7:52 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote: ...I think the W210 is a pretty handsome looking car especially the rear and side. Much better looking than a 211.. I don't agree. The W211 is a much better car and far better looking. You really like the 210's face? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] inline/straight V6
It's an IV-6 --R On 12/4/11 5:41 PM, Allan Streib wrote: http://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/2726400174.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 210/211
Yes. The nose is a bit too contrived - wannabe classic Mercedes look. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: I like the 210 ok but still like a 124 140 126 better I'm with Roger, the nose is what I don't like about the 210, think the front of a 211 looks better. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
I think ebonics is actually derived from Gullah, which was slave english (actually a hodgepodge of various languages/pronunciations, including African and European). Most of my neighbors are Gullah, and speak Gullah, which sounds a lot like Jamaican English when they get going, but also seems to be the root of the ebonics that is prevalent all over the country. I'm guessing it all started with the slaves here, who were the first to be brought to the US, from Barbados initially then Africa directly, and sorta spread with subsequent arrivees and the diaspora. I am told it sorta developed as a general language everyone could communicate in using various bits of their own original languages. This is all conjecture, not being a linguist, but being here in the midst of the mother tongue it sure seems like it. I don't think the CL idiot was communicating in ebonics, he was probably just a dumbass. --R On 12/4/11 6:50 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spelling is now an elective class, with Ebonics being one of the accepted word forms. Which is humorous, since ebonics is derived from back country irish, but we claim it is african. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
I worked in an office once where the middle of the space was a raised floor glassed-in room with a bunch of PDPs and VAxs in it. One day someone tripped the fire suppressant (I forget what it was called, some kind of freon) and it took about 30sec to completely blow down, alarms going off, etc. It cost a fair amount to replace it all. No one died but I think the guy who tripped it wished he were dead. --R On 12/4/11 7:09 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Newer refrigerants are quite inert, so explosion/fire issues aren't that big. The worst problem I can foresee would be if a unit vented the entire charge in a closed room, in which case you would have oxygen displacement. Walt On Dec 4, 2011 6:51 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: MGtrainpain2...@yahoo.com writes: still don't like the freon circulation. Why not? A heck of a lot easier to snake copper tubing through existing construction than to install ductwork. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
Hence the term CL idiot:) I don't think the CL idiot was communicating in ebonics, he was probably just a dumbass. --R On 12/4/11 6:50 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Spelling is now an elective class, with Ebonics being one of the accepted word forms. Which is humorous, since ebonics is derived from back country irish, but we claim it is african. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] For those of you with old HP stuff
Stumbled over this : siliconinvestigations.com * Cost effective repair of outdated or obsolete electronic equipment, including service for obsolete Hewlett Packard (Agilent) test measurement equipment *Obsolete component identification/substitution *Component level repair of circuit boards *Schematic/documentation generation *Software engineering Custom design: *Product prototypes *Manufacturing consulting *Ultra high vacuum and high vacuum system design and retrofit * Cryogenic testing of semiconductor material/devices * Chemical/electronic process design and consulting Forensic analysis and data recovery: *Ability to recover data from heat/fire damaged semiconductors *Sophisticated failure analysis capabilities ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 560SEC
Cool. I love guessing the price of things! Not appliances though- price is right:) Sent from my iPhone On Dec 4, 2011, at 6:43 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: You called it! think went for $3800. I was surprised, but then the ethnic folk were bidding up all the euro cars. Must be a bling thing. Engine bay had been pressure washed, and lots of the moving parts inside were resistant to moving. Guess the buyer got what he thinks is a deal. clay On Dec 2, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote: $4000 because it's a sucky color and the car has no history. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:09 PM, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote: one is coming up at the vehicle auction around 112k on the clock. Can not find the hood release out front. Had the inside hood release lever working, but nobody on the lot could find the darn the tab in the grill. Where is this? Engine was smooth and really quiet. Interior is in good shape for a 1991 car. Color is not great, but paint is good. Gold with brown interior. Trunk is clean enough with no sign of water intrusion. What would you guys figure is a decent price for me to bow out on bidding? There is an S500 (2000) and a C230. but neither one looked worth it. S500 had duct tape holding the trunk shut ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
Oooh, HALON! Safer than CO2 at the recommended concentrations when used as a fire suppressant, but bad for the ozone layer. Also a #%^@ of a lot more expensive than CO2 setups, or extinguishers, but won't harm equipment. Walt On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote: I worked in an office once where the middle of the space was a raised floor glassed-in room with a bunch of PDPs and VAxs in it. One day someone tripped the fire suppressant (I forget what it was called, some kind of freon) and it took about 30sec to completely blow down, alarms going off, etc. It cost a fair amount to replace it all. No one died but I think the guy who tripped it wished he were dead. --R On 12/4/11 7:09 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Newer refrigerants are quite inert, so explosion/fire issues aren't that big. The worst problem I can foresee would be if a unit vented the entire charge in a closed room, in which case you would have oxygen displacement. Walt On Dec 4, 2011 6:51 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: MGtrainpain2...@yahoo.com writes: still don't like the freon circulation. Why not? A heck of a lot easier to snake copper tubing through existing construction than to install ductwork. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] More OT - HWT
Haylon. We still have a system like that at work for some reason (the current excuse is that there is an I/O board in there for a current loop system) left over from the days when a VAX lived in there. We are required to evacuate the building if it ever goes off, Halon is a chloro-fluorcarbon of some sort, and once you breath it in, it's very difficult to get it back out of your lungs -- very dense. NASCAR and Indycar racing had a couple fatalities with it in the 60's or early 70's and quit using it in race cars -- tended to extinguish the driver along with a fire. Pretty funny that most smartphones have an order of magnitude better processor performance than a DEC VAX. Peter On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:20 PM, Rich Thomas wrote: I worked in an office once where the middle of the space was a raised floor glassed-in room with a bunch of PDPs and VAxs in it. One day someone tripped the fire suppressant (I forget what it was called, some kind of freon) and it took about 30sec to completely blow down, alarms going off, etc. It cost a fair amount to replace it all. No one died but I think the guy who tripped it wished he were dead. --R On 12/4/11 7:09 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote: Newer refrigerants are quite inert, so explosion/fire issues aren't that big. The worst problem I can foresee would be if a unit vented the entire charge in a closed room, in which case you would have oxygen displacement. Walt On Dec 4, 2011 6:51 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu wrote: MGtrainpain2...@yahoo.com writes: still don't like the freon circulation. Why not? A heck of a lot easier to snake copper tubing through existing construction than to install ductwork. Allan -- 1983 300D 1979 300SD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] For those of you with old HP stuff
We got rid of all our obsolete HP equipment a couple years ago. Not cost effective to keep it running, let alone being left hanging if something croaks at an inconvenient moment. That is to say nothing of the fact that current production stuff is just one heck of a lot better that the stuff that is obsolete! Peter On Dec 4, 2011, at 9:25 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Stumbled over this : siliconinvestigations.com * Cost effective repair of outdated or obsolete electronic equipment, including service for obsolete Hewlett Packard (Agilent) test measurement equipment *Obsolete component identification/substitution *Component level repair of circuit boards *Schematic/documentation generation *Software engineering Custom design: *Product prototypes *Manufacturing consulting *Ultra high vacuum and high vacuum system design and retrofit * Cryogenic testing of semiconductor material/devices * Chemical/electronic process design and consulting Forensic analysis and data recovery: *Ability to recover data from heat/fire damaged semiconductors *Sophisticated failure analysis capabilities ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL idiot of the day
I don't think the CL idiot was communicating in ebonics, he was probably just a dumbass. --R I'd guess Andrew is right, because it looks like nothing I have seen. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Two 190Ds for $3000 each
Looked at two '85 190Ds in a used car lot last night. One was a 2.2 and the other was a 2.5. Price for each was $3000. Both had good paint, no dents, and good upholstery as best I could see with a flashlight. Would these be fair prices? Any problems unique to these models to look out for? Would the 2.5 get worse mileage than the 2.2? Thanks, Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
