Re: [MBZ] OT: Bilateral Knee Replacement

2013-10-28 Thread Mitchell Haley, EA
 That is hard for me to imagine.  Just the level of pain meds I have been
 on
 precludes driving, but even without I don't feel like I have the muscular
 capability yet for driving.  Perhaps he had some bilateral orthoscopic
 instead of total replacement???

It stunned me at the time too.
It was described to me as some kind of parts replacement, the first time
I'd heard of doing both at once.
It was definitely during the same business week as the surgery.
He didn't work Fridays, so the longest it could have been was Monday to
Thursday.
He was between 65 and 70 at the time by my best guess. I was in my early
40s and his oldest daughter is 3-4 years older than me.
Looking back on it I can't guarantee he drove, but if his wife was there
she didn't bother to say hi to me.


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] 1000SEL

2013-10-28 Thread Hendrik and Fay
I believe that V goes back to Verlangt, which means request or perhaps 
custom.


Hendrik
with a standard Benz

On 28/10/13 12:27, Mitch Haley wrote:

Hendrik and Fay wrote:
http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-1986/AGC-AD-13909220/?Cr=3sdmvc=1 

All you need is someone to do the driving or chuck the kids in the 
back and forget about em.




Is V126 the name of the extra long 126 chassis, or does the engine 
have two banks of 63 cylinders each?


Mitch.



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread Rich Thomas


 When I was a kid I remember going to Grissom AFB in Indiana (it was
 called something else then, Bunker Hill I think) to an open house day,
 and getting to sit in the cockpit of one of these.  I had built a
 plastic model of it, and thought it was soo cool.  These things
 were so over the top.  I understand that all the avionics generated so
 much heat (vacuum tubes), and took up so much space, that it was
 necessary to put all of it in an external pod that hung below the
 plane, and sorta negated a lot of the performance attributes it was
 designed for.  I think it was the first Coke-bottle design for
 supersonic flight but the pod kinda killed that.  Not sure where The
 Bomb was kept or how it could be dropped.  It scared the rooshans
 though and kept Merka great and out of the hands of the filthy reds! 
 Conelrad alert!



 Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFPgur_cUmA#t=252

--R


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] 1000SEL

2013-10-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 27, 2013 7:09 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Hendrik and Fay wrote:


http://www.carsales.com.au/dealer/details/Mercedes-Benz-560SEL-1986/AGC-AD-13909220/?Cr=3sdmvc=1
 All you need is someone to do the driving or chuck the kids in the back
and forget about em.


 Is V126 the name of the extra long
 126 chassis, or does the engine have
 two banks of 63 cylinders each?

Only if a regular W126 has a Volkswagen-style W engine with three banks
of 42 cylinders.  (You've heard mention of long-wheelbase S-classes?  Now
you know why.)

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread Dan Penoff
I used to do work on the flight line and NAV power systems there in the 80s. 
There was a refueling squadron based there as well as an A-10 wing that 
belonged to the Indiana National Guard.

The A-10 is one ass-kicking aircraft. Got to sit in a cockpit of one once. 
Something about that 20mm cannon sticking out the front that made you feel very 
powerful.

The ready room for the on duty flight crews of the refueling wing had a 
Missile Command video game. Always got a kick out of that..,

Dan

 On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 
 When I was a kid I remember going to Grissom AFB in Indiana (it was
 called something else then, Bunker Hill I think) to an open house day,
 and getting to sit in the cockpit of one of these.  I had built a
 plastic model of it, and thought it was soo cool.  These things
 were so over the top.  I understand that all the avionics generated so
 much heat (vacuum tubes), and took up so much space, that it was
 necessary to put all of it in an external pod that hung below the
 plane, and sorta negated a lot of the performance attributes it was
 designed for.  I think it was the first Coke-bottle design for
 supersonic flight but the pod kinda killed that.  Not sure where The
 Bomb was kept or how it could be dropped.  It scared the rooshans
 though and kept Merka great and out of the hands of the filthy reds!  
 Conelrad alert!
 
 
 Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities
 
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFPgur_cUmA#t=252
 
 --R
 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] M(ac)B question

2013-10-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 27, 2013 3:18 PM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
wrote:

 Actually it is a Mac 9 question, which
 they call Maverick for some reason
 completely unclear, but whatever...

Because (Apple CEO) Tim Cook got tired of the big-cat naming scheme and all
new versions of OS X are to be named after famous surfing destinations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mavericks_(location)

As far as the OS upgrade itself, many people at my work have already
upgraded and are pretty happy with it.  We use Macbook Pros as development
boxes and typically load them down pretty heavily with lots of virtual
machines, so we would uncover stability issues pretty quickly if there were
any to speak of.

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] 68 200D

2013-10-28 Thread Rich Thomas

Looks like a barn find


   1968 MERCEDES - $2300 (RALEIGH N.C.)



https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4102653209.html

--R

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] OT: Airplanes and Small Arms

2013-10-28 Thread Scott Ritchey
Knowing there are both aviation and gun folks on MBZ, I thought this might
be interesting.  The text was stolen from WWII aircraft.net.

 


F-80 Pilot Shoots Down His Own Plane


This is a fascinating story from 1952 in K-13 Korea. A. J. D'Amario was
flying his F-80 Shooting Star, when he encountered a failure to feed from
his tip tank. Unable to drop the tank and unwilling to eject out of a
perfectly good airplane, he decides to reduce speed, open his canopy and
pull out his 1911 .45ACP. Below is the link. See page 46 for the details and
amazing finale.

 

 

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/nra/ar_201311/index.php?startid=19#/48

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread Scott Ritchey

Make that 30mm (GAU-8).

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

I used to do work on the flight line and NAV power systems there in the 80s.
There was a refueling squadron based there as well as an A-10 wing that
belonged to the Indiana National Guard.

The A-10 is one ass-kicking aircraft. Got to sit in a cockpit of one once.
Something about that 20mm cannon sticking out the front that made you feel
very powerful.

The ready room for the on duty flight crews of the refueling wing had a
Missile Command video game. Always got a kick out of that..,

Dan

 On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:
 
 
 When I was a kid I remember going to Grissom AFB in Indiana (it was
 called something else then, Bunker Hill I think) to an open house day,
 and getting to sit in the cockpit of one of these.  I had built a
 plastic model of it, and thought it was soo cool.  These things
 were so over the top.  I understand that all the avionics generated so
 much heat (vacuum tubes), and took up so much space, that it was
 necessary to put all of it in an external pod that hung below the
 plane, and sorta negated a lot of the performance attributes it was
 designed for.  I think it was the first Coke-bottle design for
 supersonic flight but the pod kinda killed that.  Not sure where The
 Bomb was kept or how it could be dropped.  It scared the rooshans
 though and kept Merka great and out of the hands of the filthy reds!
Conelrad alert!
 
 
 Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities
 
 
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFPgur_cUmA#t=252
 
 --R
 
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread Rich Thomas
I heard the other day where the term the whole nine yards came from.  
It refers to the length of an ammo belt on some fighter (was it a 
Spitfire?) -- when the pilot unloaded the whole thing that was the 
whole nine yards.


--R


On 10/28/13 5:36 PM, Scott Ritchey wrote:

Make that 30mm (GAU-8).

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 12:51 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

I used to do work on the flight line and NAV power systems there in the 80s.
There was a refueling squadron based there as well as an A-10 wing that
belonged to the Indiana National Guard.

The A-10 is one ass-kicking aircraft. Got to sit in a cockpit of one once.
Something about that 20mm cannon sticking out the front that made you feel
very powerful.

The ready room for the on duty flight crews of the refueling wing had a
Missile Command video game. Always got a kick out of that..,

Dan


On Oct 28, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Rich Thomas

richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


When I was a kid I remember going to Grissom AFB in Indiana (it was
called something else then, Bunker Hill I think) to an open house day,
and getting to sit in the cockpit of one of these.  I had built a
plastic model of it, and thought it was soo cool.  These things
were so over the top.  I understand that all the avionics generated so
much heat (vacuum tubes), and took up so much space, that it was
necessary to put all of it in an external pod that hung below the
plane, and sorta negated a lot of the performance attributes it was
designed for.  I think it was the first Coke-bottle design for
supersonic flight but the pod kinda killed that.  Not sure where The
Bomb was kept or how it could be dropped.  It scared the rooshans
though and kept Merka great and out of the hands of the filthy reds!

Conelrad alert!


Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFPgur_cUmA#t=252

--R


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT: Airplanes and Small Arms

2013-10-28 Thread Craig
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:03:08 -0400 Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com
wrote:

 This is a fascinating story from 1952 in K-13 Korea. A. J. D'Amario was
 flying his F-80 Shooting Star, when he encountered a failure to feed
 from his tip tank. Unable to drop the tank and unwilling to eject out
 of a perfectly good airplane, he decides to reduce speed, open his
 canopy and pull out his 1911 .45ACP. Below is the link. See page 46 for
 the details and amazing finale.
 
 http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/nra/ar_201311/index.php?startid=19#/48

That's pretty amazing!


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread Craig
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 17:40:37 -0400 Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I heard the other day where the term the whole nine yards came from.  
 It refers to the length of an ammo belt on some fighter (was it a 
 Spitfire?) -- when the pilot unloaded the whole thing that was the 
 whole nine yards.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_whole_nine_yards:

 The whole nine yards or full nine yards is a colloquial American phrase
 meaning everything, the whole lot

Of course, in der Vaterland, it would be the whole 8.23 meters


Craig

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] W123 grille insert?

2013-10-28 Thread ernest breakfield

hi all!

high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around 
on the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that 
destroyed parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the 
majority of the damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that 
sits inside of the main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more 
dings in the chrome decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or 
P/Ns of any kind on it, and have my suspicions that this might be an 
aftermarket piece put on by a previous owner after a 'fender-bender'.


any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car 
that doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that 
we're keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace 
the whole grille and frame?



cheers!
e

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?

2013-10-28 Thread WILTON

Salvage yard.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: ernest breakfield erne...@backyardengineering.org

To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 6:53 PM
Subject: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?



hi all!

high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around 
on the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that 
destroyed parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the 
majority of the damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that 
sits inside of the main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more 
dings in the chrome decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or 
P/Ns of any kind on it, and have my suspicions that this might be an 
aftermarket piece put on by a previous owner after a 'fender-bender'.


any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car 
that doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that 
we're keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace 
the whole grille and frame?



cheers!
e

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?

2013-10-28 Thread Gary Hurst
the plastic piece tends to be cheaper, about 70 bucks or so in genuine.  if
you want the whole assembly, you are going to be talking bit money in
genuine, so you will have to be looking aftermarket or used


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM, ernest breakfield 
erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:

 hi all!

 high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around on
 the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that destroyed
 parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the majority of the
 damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that sits inside of the
 main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more dings in the chrome
 decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or P/Ns of any kind on it,
 and have my suspicions that this might be an aftermarket piece put on by a
 previous owner after a 'fender-bender'.

 any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car that
 doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that we're
 keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace the whole
 grille and frame?


 cheers!
 e

 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




-- 
*reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars

*
*www.BuyEUROparts.com*
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT: Airplanes and Small Arms

2013-10-28 Thread Mountain Man
Scott wrote:
 http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/nra/ar_201311/index.php?startid=19#/48


+1
Story on p.46 is great stuff.
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] 68 200D

2013-10-28 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
 Looks like a barn find

No mention that it runs, but seems to be a beautiful expensive MBZ.
Prolly $10k to get it road worthy, but looks very nice.
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] not that anyone wants to talk about this...

2013-10-28 Thread Mountain Man
With all the primitive military yap today, how about some modern good
old end this war jazz.

Crash This Train
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avpYJyGVnPc

Seems about as much 1968 as anything I have heard in a long while.  Good stuff.
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread WILTON
'Thought Convair F-102 was first to use area rule (coke bottle design) in 
early 50's; enabled it to go supersonic.  Convair B-58 soon thereafter.

Fuel and nuke weapons in B-58 pod.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:44 AM
Subject: [MBZ] OT One for Milt




 When I was a kid I remember going to Grissom AFB in Indiana (it was
 called something else then, Bunker Hill I think) to an open house day,
 and getting to sit in the cockpit of one of these.  I had built a
 plastic model of it, and thought it was soo cool.  These things
 were so over the top.  I understand that all the avionics generated so
 much heat (vacuum tubes), and took up so much space, that it was
 necessary to put all of it in an external pod that hung below the
 plane, and sorta negated a lot of the performance attributes it was
 designed for.  I think it was the first Coke-bottle design for
 supersonic flight but the pod kinda killed that.  Not sure where The
 Bomb was kept or how it could be dropped.  It scared the rooshans
 though and kept Merka great and out of the hands of the filthy reds! 
Conelrad alert!



 Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFPgur_cUmA#t=252

--R


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com 



___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?

2013-10-28 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
Cheap aftermarket is usually fine on those kind of parts

Sent from my iPhone

 On Oct 28, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 the plastic piece tends to be cheaper, about 70 bucks or so in genuine.  if
 you want the whole assembly, you are going to be talking bit money in
 genuine, so you will have to be looking aftermarket or used
 
 
 On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM, ernest breakfield 
 erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:
 
 hi all!
 
high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around on
 the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that destroyed
 parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the majority of the
 damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that sits inside of the
 main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more dings in the chrome
 decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or P/Ns of any kind on it,
 and have my suspicions that this might be an aftermarket piece put on by a
 previous owner after a 'fender-bender'.
 
any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car that
 doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that we're
 keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace the whole
 grille and frame?
 
 
 cheers!
 e
 
 __**_
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives 
 http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.comhttp://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 
 
 -- 
 *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars
 
 *
 *www.BuyEUROparts.com*
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?

2013-10-28 Thread Gary Hurst
i think so too, but there are some guys who really want everyone just a
certain way and will complain about the way the chinese plastic looks


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Cheap aftermarket is usually fine on those kind of parts

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Oct 28, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  the plastic piece tends to be cheaper, about 70 bucks or so in genuine.
  if
  you want the whole assembly, you are going to be talking bit money in
  genuine, so you will have to be looking aftermarket or used
 
 
  On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM, ernest breakfield 
  erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:
 
  hi all!
 
 high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around on
  the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that
 destroyed
  parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the majority of the
  damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that sits inside of the
  main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more dings in the chrome
  decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or P/Ns of any kind on
 it,
  and have my suspicions that this might be an aftermarket piece put on
 by a
  previous owner after a 'fender-bender'.
 
 any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car
 that
  doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that we're
  keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace the
 whole
  grille and frame?
 
 
  cheers!
  e
 
  __**_
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/
 http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
  http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
 
 
  --
  *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars
 
  *
  *www.BuyEUROparts.com*
  ___
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




-- 
*reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars

*
*www.BuyEUROparts.com*
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread Mountain Man
--R wrote:
  Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities

Not many delta wing aircraft used these days?
Is delta wing used only for supersonic?  Was blackbird delta wing?
Interesting video - thanks.
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread G Mann
B-58 Hustler was built in the time frame when Jet A was cheap and nukes had
to be hand delivered.  That era passed pretty quickly with the cold war and
the missile silos built all over the place.  Then came space with the
capacity to put a nuke in orbit and leave it there, ready to drop on a
moments notice for delivery anywhere on the earth in less time than it
takes to run through the pre-flight checklist on the B-58...

Then there is kinetic Energy Weapons system... it doesn't even use nuke...
it's just a titanium pole [pick your size and diameter] dropped from space
and guided by GPS or other secret guidance systems, so there is no launch
signature.  It's reported that delivery time from geosynchronous orbit is
something on the order of 6 minutes from release to impact.  For a weapon
10 ft long 10 inches diameter, it's reported that Impact at 64,000 MPH
delivers energy on the same scale of a 5 to 8 megaton nuke, with zero
fallout or residual..  It is unconfirmed, of course, that we may or may not
have such a weapon in inventory, however, it is confirmed that Russia
developed such a device. Presumption is, USA has equal or better...  The
leaked Russian code name for their weapon was Stalins Hammer...

Why rush conventional weapons can come at any time of the night with
the present stealth planes.  You can't see them so they don't have to out
run surface to air missiles.
That way, politicians have time to make excuses.

Isn't technology great?


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 --R wrote:
   Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities

 Not many delta wing aircraft used these days?
 Is delta wing used only for supersonic?  Was blackbird delta wing?
 Interesting video - thanks.
 mao

 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread Mountain Man
Grant wrote:
 Then came space with the
 capacity to put a nuke in orbit and leave it there, ready to drop on a
 moments notice for delivery anywhere on the earth in less time than it
 takes to run through the pre-flight checklist on the B-58...


Say it ain't so.
Really - nukes in orbit?  What happens when they need to be changed?
How do you revamp the weaponry?
I gotta look up the kinetic energy weapons - sounds awesome terrible.
We call this humanity?
--Crash this train.--
We're still waitin for you to bring our troops home, clean up that
mess you made.
Cuz it smells of blood and money and oil across the Iraqi land.
But its so easy here to blind us with your United We Stand
mao - I think we are firetrukced!!

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread WILTON

Not REALLY in  orbit - merely the capacity/ability to PUT nukes in orbit.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt



Grant wrote:

Then came space with the
capacity to put a nuke in orbit and leave it there, ready to drop on a
moments notice for delivery anywhere on the earth in less time than it
takes to run through the pre-flight checklist on the B-58...



Say it ain't so.
Really - nukes in orbit?  What happens when they need to be changed?
How do you revamp the weaponry?
I gotta look up the kinetic energy weapons - sounds awesome terrible.
We call this humanity?
--Crash this train.--
We're still waitin for you to bring our troops home, clean up that
mess you made.
Cuz it smells of blood and money and oil across the Iraqi land.
But its so easy here to blind us with your United We Stand
mao - I think we are firetrukced!!

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt

2013-10-28 Thread WILTON

SR-71 blackbird has delta mid-to-aft plus chines up front.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com

To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 8:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT One for Milt



--R wrote:

 Convair B-58 Hustler Low Level Bombing Capabilities


Not many delta wing aircraft used these days?
Is delta wing used only for supersonic?  Was blackbird delta wing?
Interesting video - thanks.
mao

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] 68 200D

2013-10-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
The steering wheel is so full of patina that it cracked.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 7:18 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote:

 --R wrote:
  Looks like a barn find

 No mention that it runs, but seems to be a beautiful expensive MBZ.
 Prolly $10k to get it road worthy, but looks very nice.
 mao

 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?

2013-10-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel
I have a spare grille with a good insert if that's what you need.  Let me
know.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:29 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:

 i think so too, but there are some guys who really want everyone just a
 certain way and will complain about the way the chinese plastic looks


 On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 wrote:

  Cheap aftermarket is usually fine on those kind of parts
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
   On Oct 28, 2013, at 6:08 PM, Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   the plastic piece tends to be cheaper, about 70 bucks or so in genuine.
   if
   you want the whole assembly, you are going to be talking bit money in
   genuine, so you will have to be looking aftermarket or used
  
  
   On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 6:53 PM, ernest breakfield 
   erne...@backyardengineering.org wrote:
  
   hi all!
  
  high winds in our area last night had lots of stuff flying around
 on
   the highway, and i happened to pick up a piece of something that
  destroyed
   parts of the grille of our '85 300D. it looks like the majority of the
   damage was restricted to the grey plastic grille that sits inside of
 the
   main outer frame surround, and perhaps a few more dings in the chrome
   decorative strips. i couldn't find any MBZ logos or P/Ns of any kind
 on
  it,
   and have my suspicions that this might be an aftermarket piece put on
  by a
   previous owner after a 'fender-bender'.
  
  any hints or tips on where and how to get a replacement for a car
  that
   doesn't have to be show quality, but is a good regular driver that
 we're
   keeping looking fairly nice? should i just bite down and replace the
  whole
   grille and frame?
  
  
   cheers!
   e
  
   __**_
   http://www.okiebenz.com
  
   To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/
  http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
  
   To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
   http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com
  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
  
  
  
   --
   *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars
  
   *
   *www.BuyEUROparts.com*
   ___
   http://www.okiebenz.com
  
   To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
  
   To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
   http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 
  ___
  http://www.okiebenz.com
 
  To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
  To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
  http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
 



 --
 *reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars

 *
 *www.BuyEUROparts.com*
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] 68 200D

2013-10-28 Thread clay
Is that a Space 1999 shuttle craft in the middle photo?

clay

On Oct 28, 2013, at 12:59 PM, Rich Thomas wrote:

 Looks like a barn find
 
 
   1968 MERCEDES - $2300 (RALEIGH N.C.)
 
 
 
 https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/4102653209.html
 
 --R
 
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com
 
 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
 
 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] 68 200D

2013-10-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Oct 28, 2013 8:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 The steering wheel is so full of patina that it cracked.


I've never seen a wheel on any '60s car, outside of a museum or show, that
wasn't cracked.  Probably something you could buy from the Classic Center
if you had the scratch.

Alex

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] W123 grille insert?

2013-10-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
So where was Ernie to set us all straight when we were discussing that
silly ad for the Cherokee?

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-28 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac
 as his main computer.


 Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3.  Though most days I'm
 using Vine server and Chicken of the VNC to run it from this G3
 pismo.


If it weren't for Jim I think I'd be the winner here in the oldest Mac in
regular use sweepstakes.  I have a 1999-vintage G4 tower that gets turned
on almost every day, although it is mostly used only for film scanning,
video conversion, and sound editing. It's been upgraded with the maximum
amount of memory, a CPU accelerator, new hard drives, an SATA card, newer
video card, and a USB 2.0 card (hard to believe it came with USB 1.0 on the
motherboard!), but amazingly is still running the original power supply (I
do have a spare handy just in case).

Alex
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


Re: [MBZ] it's off topic, but i'd like to point out

2013-10-28 Thread Gary Hurst
i gave my g4 tower to my kid and she pretty much gave up on it. :(


On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 1:52 AM, Alex Chamberlain
apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

  that i am likely the only person here to be using a pre intel PowerPC mac
  as his main computer.
 
 
  Hardly, all my email is on this 233MHz G3.  Though most days I'm
  using Vine server and Chicken of the VNC to run it from this G3
  pismo.
 
 
 If it weren't for Jim I think I'd be the winner here in the oldest Mac in
 regular use sweepstakes.  I have a 1999-vintage G4 tower that gets turned
 on almost every day, although it is mostly used only for film scanning,
 video conversion, and sound editing. It's been upgraded with the maximum
 amount of memory, a CPU accelerator, new hard drives, an SATA card, newer
 video card, and a USB 2.0 card (hard to believe it came with USB 1.0 on the
 motherboard!), but amazingly is still running the original power supply (I
 do have a spare handy just in case).

 Alex
 ___
 http://www.okiebenz.com

 To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

 To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
 http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com




-- 
*reliable vendor of superior parts for mercedes and other european cars

*
*www.BuyEUROparts.com*
___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com


[MBZ] not that anyone wants to talk about this...

2013-10-28 Thread rogerhga
Mao, 
I try not to think too much about these things. The late 60's and early 70's 
still bring a tear to my eyes. The song writers then got famous and made lots 
of bread while the marchers they influenced got beat on the head. Our fathers 
allowed the past because they did not stand up as we allow the present because 
we don't stand up. I would not put the country back to where it was, but I 
certainly don't like where it is. You can never make everyone happy, but there 
must be some level where we can all coexist peacefully while not having the 
left-right hate we have today. First, we must vote out the pretenders from both 
sides as the blame is shared by both sides. Stand up by yourself or united, but 
mainly just stand up for what you believe. 
Yeah, I did talk about this after all. Sorry, I'll dry my eyes now. 
Best Wishes, 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com (new) 
www.southernnightsantiques.com (antique) 

___
http://www.okiebenz.com

To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/

To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com