Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
The Leaf is one fugly car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
From the outside ;) Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The Leaf is one fugly car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The Leaf is one fugly car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
I agree with that. A lot of electric car craze is feel good environmentalism. 38% of power still comes from coal. I will stick with ULSD no illusions. On Aug 16, 2014 9:37 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The Leaf is one fugly car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. Would have worked great when I lived 17 miles from work. That would have given me enough excess capacity to use the climate control without overly discharging the battery. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
38% of power still comes from coal. Here in WA it's something like 80% hydroelectric. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
Once again, no one vehicle is right/best for all mission profiles. An electric car is fine for most urban driving. One would be fine for my wife's trips into town every week where she drives an average of 25 - 30 miles round trip. It would not be good for a road trip - that's what Diesels are for! We have the Passat which is OK for driving into town at 35 mpg, but better for road trips. I just got 49 mpg dropping our son at the airport - a 65 mile round trip - and have seen 53 mpg where the speed limits are lower (MI). The F150 gets horrible mileage (18), but it's the only reasonable way for me to haul fuel for the airplane and rocks/gravel for the wife. On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 8:37 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Insurance Comparison
Randy, I was chatting with a Canadian guy on one of the other forums I frequent about (aboot?) car insurance. Is it significantly different in Canada compared to the States, or are you familiar with our car insurance system here? Just curious Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison
When I lived in Ontario about 20 years ago, insurance was better and half the cost, at least for me. It was also no-fault. BC in those days had single payer Provencial insurance, it was half what you paid in Ontario. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison
I was curious as to whether it was a provincial thing and if they had some form of no-fault, too. I hate no-fault. For one car in Florida I pay as much as what it cost to cover three in Indiana (no no-fault.) Just got my endorsement for the next six months. My S500 and SL500 cost about $600 each with liability and a $500 deductible comprehensive, no collision. Dan On Aug 16, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: When I lived in Ontario about 20 years ago, insurance was better and half the cost, at least for me. It was also no-fault. BC in those days had single payer Provencial insurance, it was half what you paid in Ontario. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison
I wonder if some of the cost difference between Canada and US is the personal injury coverage (Canada has free healthcare, so that part of auto insurance is far less expensive?). Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
The problem is that then your existence becomes regimented. Suppose you decide on your commute back that you need to stop by place X or some urgent matter comes up and you need to drive to place Y? You have to drive home and swap cars. Majorly inconvenient if you ask me. Until an electric car can be developed with a real range I don't have any interest in buying one. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 9:53 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. Would have worked great when I lived 17 miles from work. That would have given me enough excess capacity to use the climate control without overly discharging the battery. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT Cars Coffee
The monthly cars and coffee was down the road this morning. One car caught my attention as I was walking around. Brick Volvo wagon 245DL (I think) lowered with fat tires. Walked around the front and it had a big V8 stuffed in the front and a 5speed manual. Other than that it looked like a Cambridge granola mama's grocery-getter (no Free Tibet stickers though). The owner was not around so did not talk to anyone about it, but it looked really cool. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee
No pictures? :( Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Rich Thomas Subject: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee The monthly cars and coffee was down the road this morning. One car caught my attention as I was walking around. Brick Volvo wagon 245DL (I think) lowered with fat tires. Walked around the front and it had a big V8 stuffed in the front and a 5speed manual. Other than that it looked like a Cambridge granola mama's grocery-getter (no Free Tibet stickers though). The owner was not around so did not talk to anyone about it, but it looked really cool. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
One hundred years ago electric cars were a common sight on city streets in Europe and the United States. Many of them had a range comparable to that of today's EV's http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/05/the-status-quo-of-electric-cars-better-batteries-same-range.html. Below is an overview of early electrics and their specifications, put together from sales catalogs and books: http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/overview-of-early-electric-cars.html . On 8/16/2014 9:37 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote: And more importantly one fu**ing pointless car with a realistic range of 60-80 miles. On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:06 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The Leaf is one fugly car. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
That's the one thing I think I would find an EV to be a PITA for. While I rarely stop on the way home for anything, if I need to I need to, and it would be really inconvenient to have to go home and swap cars just because I wouldn't have the range to make a side trip. Dan On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:06 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The problem is that then your existence becomes regimented. Suppose you decide on your commute back that you need to stop by place X or some urgent matter comes up and you need to drive to place Y? You have to drive home and swap cars. Majorly inconvenient if you ask me. Until an electric car can be developed with a real range I don't have any interest in buying one. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fw: OT: Sacrilege
My original reply went to Don only... I forgot to add Mercedes Discussion Group. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:32 AM To: okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege Original Message From: OK Don via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 9:20 AM To: dsereta...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: OK Don Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege (big snip) The F150 gets horrible mileage (18), 18 mpg isn't bad for a full size truck. My 2000 Explorer never got better than 20. I had an ancient Chevy 3/4 ton that never did better than 12-14. My Ranger gets about 24-25 mostly highway. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee
I was on my bike ride, had my phone but was too lazy to get it out of the plastic bag and take piccies. It'll probably be back again, I'll get some pics. --R On 8/16/14 11:25 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: No pictures? :( Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2014 10:23 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Rich Thomas Subject: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee The monthly cars and coffee was down the road this morning. One car caught my attention as I was walking around. Brick Volvo wagon 245DL (I think) lowered with fat tires. Walked around the front and it had a big V8 stuffed in the front and a 5speed manual. Other than that it looked like a Cambridge granola mama's grocery-getter (no Free Tibet stickers though). The owner was not around so did not talk to anyone about it, but it looked really cool. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Benz pR0n at Monterey
Along with some other German iron http://jalopnik.com/the-best-of-legends-of-the-autobahn-1622456816 --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: Ugly cars
I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building a wooden car, such as this one, would be interesting, and it would be a strong contender in an ugly car contest: http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099229e888330120a7d30e2d970b-700wi ** During the 1990s, hydrogen was seen as the alternative fuel of the future. Then, biofuels and compressed air took over its mantle role, while today all the attention is focused on electric cars. If this technology fails, too (and many have serious doubts about it), can we go back to the wood gas car? Despite its industrial appearance, a wood gas car scores rather well from an ecological viewpoint when compared to other alternative fuels. Wood gasification is slightly more effiicient than wood burning, as only 25 percent of the energy content of the fuel is lost. The energy consumption of a woodmobile is around 1.5 times higher than the energy consumption of a similar car powered by gasoline (including the energy lost during the pre-heating of the system and the extra weight of the machinery). If the energy required to mine, transport and refine oil is also taken into account, however, then wood gas is at least as efficient as gasoline. And, of course, wood is a renewable. http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Test Message
Testing due to a domain transfer Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
You passed... Or failed... Or whatever the correct / incorrect response is... Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ugly cars
The humans were driving one in the first Terminator movie. --R On 8/16/14 1:36 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building a wooden car, such as this one, would be interesting, and it would be a strong contender in an ugly car contest: http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099229e888330120a7d30e2d970b-700wi ** During the 1990s, hydrogen was seen as the alternative fuel of the future. Then, biofuels and compressed air took over its mantle role, while today all the attention is focused on electric cars. If this technology fails, too (and many have serious doubts about it), can we go back to the wood gas car? Despite its industrial appearance, a wood gas car scores rather well from an ecological viewpoint when compared to other alternative fuels. Wood gasification is slightly more effiicient than wood burning, as only 25 percent of the energy content of the fuel is lost. The energy consumption of a woodmobile is around 1.5 times higher than the energy consumption of a similar car powered by gasoline (including the energy lost during the pre-heating of the system and the extra weight of the machinery). If the energy required to mine, transport and refine oil is also taken into account, however, then wood gas is at least as efficient as gasoline. And, of course, wood is a renewable. http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee
That's what you should do with your '79 wagon. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 16, 2014 11:23 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The monthly cars and coffee was down the road this morning. One car caught my attention as I was walking around. Brick Volvo wagon 245DL (I think) lowered with fat tires. Walked around the front and it had a big V8 stuffed in the front and a 5speed manual. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ugly cars
That picture is classic, with the fiery clouds in the background. Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Aug 16, 2014 1:56 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building a wooden car, such as this one, would be interesting, and it would be a strong contender in an ugly car contest: http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099229e888330120a7d30e2d 970b-700wi ** During the 1990s, hydrogen was seen as the alternative fuel of the future. Then, biofuels and compressed air took over its mantle role, while today all the attention is focused on electric cars. If this technology fails, too (and many have serious doubts about it), can we go back to the wood gas car? Despite its industrial appearance, a wood gas car scores rather well from an ecological viewpoint when compared to other alternative fuels. Wood gasification is slightly more effiicient than wood burning, as only 25 percent of the energy content of the fuel is lost. The energy consumption of a woodmobile is around 1.5 times higher than the energy consumption of a similar car powered by gasoline (including the energy lost during the pre-heating of the system and the extra weight of the machinery). If the energy required to mine, transport and refine oil is also taken into account, however, then wood gas is at least as efficient as gasoline. And, of course, wood is a renewable. http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Test received. On Aug 16, 2014 2:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Testing due to a domain transfer Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
On 8/16/2014 2:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Testing due to a domain transfer Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
Thanks everyone. I see my message so my alternate email is working. Gotta get away from the Germans at 11. After over two weeks of their MX servers being blocked by everyone because of spam I just had to move my hosting and domains elsewhere. I'm transferring voer to GoDaddy. At least they're somewhat local and have decent support. Dan On Aug 16, 2014, at 2:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Testing due to a domain transfer Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Review for the 3.5
I much prefer that sort of ride in a classic car than in a newer import. There are many lower cost volks wagons on the road that do much the same rattle, jounce, and noise, but with much less elan. Toyota and all that like are so loosely built they make long drives very stressful. #1 boy was co-pilot for the AlCan drive with SWMBA. Five days on the road had him jangled and near orgasmic to get behind the wheel of his 92 300SE. Two decade old plush ride was luxe compared to the four year old Rav 4. La-Z-boy recliner v. radio flyer wagon. Gump was a nice ride for a 40 year old car. Not so luxe as the E300D, but both had great road feel and were fun to drive. The w124 was great for cross country drives. The w115 would tire you out after 6 hours on the freeway. Then, again, six hours on the BMW R65 required and delivered the same excitement and race consciousness. You have to pay attention and experience the whole ride, not just snuggle into the sofa and snooze along at speed. clay 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately well tailored chap 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers On Aug 15, 2014, at 9:16 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: Go back and drive a car from the '60s. A friend's brother bought a late '60s Mustang, we went to pick it up for him. Nice car in decent shape but boy did it ride hard. We've been spoiled by fuel injected engines and multi-link suspensions. I felt every bump that car went over and it sure felt like my fillings were going to fall out. Plus all the interior noise, little rattles and whatnot. It was a good looking car but not all that fun to live with. -Curt From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2014 12:12 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Review for the 3.5 On 14/08/2014 10:34 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Yup, the 3.5L is the stroker version -- stroke is shorter than the bore is wide. Turns 6200 rpm, believe it or not, and produces prodigious horsepower at high rpm. Sort of a dog from standstill, though, that's why Benz switched to the 4.5L in later years -- more grunt off the line. Vastly better car to drive than a '68 anything made in the USA. Peter ___ I am not so sure about that last statement. America was building some nice cars in 68. Mustang, Camaro, etc. Good power and reasonable handling. Before they went all bloated and the emission stuff made then a mess. I had a 68 Cougar with a 289 that was quite a nice little car. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
You failed Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:50 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Testing due to a domain transfer Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
And the sole coal plant is being retrofitted to NG in a few years. The coal trains that supplied it are now being repurposed to load ships headed to the orient. Wind farms are sprouting up all over the state. Natural gas plants are not getting built, but solar is growing, and the older hydro facilities are being removed. Blame Warren Buffet. Buffet purchased the trains that haul the coal. He scooped up the local mega power company. I would not be surprised if he has a fleet of ships to take coal east. Or, that he has an investment interest in building the new nuke plants being planned out here. clay On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:03 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: 38% of power still comes from coal. Here in WA it's something like 80% hydroelectric. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison
They still have single payer Provincial in BC. Better than most of the stuff below the 49th parallel. You can purchase private to cover special needs, but still seems much less expensive to do that than what I pay in Seattle clay On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:35 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: When I lived in Ontario about 20 years ago, insurance was better and half the cost, at least for me. It was also no-fault. BC in those days had single payer Provencial insurance, it was half what you paid in Ontario. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Insurance Comparison
They also have a less litigious society clay On Aug 16, 2014, at 8:01 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: I wonder if some of the cost difference between Canada and US is the personal injury coverage (Canada has free healthcare, so that part of auto insurance is far less expensive?). Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Test Message
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 15:15:46 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Thanks everyone. I see my message so my alternate email is working. Gotta get away from the Germans at 11. After over two weeks of their MX servers being blocked by everyone because of spam I just had to move my hosting and domains elsewhere. That is the reason I left 11 as well. I could not send messages to ornl.gov because of the spam their servers sent; they refused to acknowledge the problem as theirs and refused to do anything. I'm transferring voer to GoDaddy. At least they're somewhat local and have decent support. I transferred to www.swcp.com; they are somewhat local and have outstanding support. We will stay with them when we move. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Liquid Penetrants
I have come to appreciate the benefits of applying penetrants such as Liquid Wrench prior to dismantling metal fasteners such as stuck bolts, etc. One exception - I have not found this to be helpful when used for removing the handles of ordinary garden faucets. Wondering what others of you have experienced in this regard. By way of context, with the drought condtions in California, I am installing drip irrigation to feed drought resistant plants in the yard and control the water flow using ordinary bib faucets (pipe thread at one end and male hose fitting on the other). Being frugal, I use old discarded brass hose bibs and make 'em good-as-new by replacing the faucet washer and stem packing, then applying plumbers grease to the stem threads. This is easier to do when the faucet handle is removed. I have had little success with stubborn handles (on a splined shaft) despite applying Liquid Wrench over a period of days and using a puller intended for the purpose. Applying too much force usually results in breaking the faucet handle. Could it be that this type of product won't penetrate in this area? Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 10267 (20140816) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Liquid Penetrants
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Jerry Herrman via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have had little success with stubborn handles (on a splined shaft) despite applying Liquid Wrench over a period of days and using a puller intended for the purpose. Applying too much force usually results in breaking the faucet handle. Could it be that this type of product won't penetrate in this area? I'm assuming you're applying it to the splined side of the handle? In my experience, most such handles are made from pot metal/zamac. As such, they can, over a period of years, absorb humidity from the air and actually swell into the brass splines of the valve stem. Yer better off just cutting the handle off if it won't come loose and starting afresh. -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Ugly cars
I actually like the Aztek. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 16, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I like ugly cars. No one envies them, no one wants them, thieves ignore them, and some of them get very good fuel mileage. Also, building a wooden car, such as this one, would be interesting, and it would be a strong contender in an ugly car contest: http://krisdedecker.typepad.com/.a/6a00e0099229e888330120a7d30e2d970b-700wi ** During the 1990s, hydrogen was seen as the alternative fuel of the future. Then, biofuels and compressed air took over its mantle role, while today all the attention is focused on electric cars. If this technology fails, too (and many have serious doubts about it), can we go back to the wood gas car? Despite its industrial appearance, a wood gas car scores rather well from an ecological viewpoint when compared to other alternative fuels. Wood gasification is slightly more effiicient than wood burning, as only 25 percent of the energy content of the fuel is lost. The energy consumption of a woodmobile is around 1.5 times higher than the energy consumption of a similar car powered by gasoline (including the energy lost during the pre-heating of the system and the extra weight of the machinery). If the energy required to mine, transport and refine oil is also taken into account, however, then wood gas is at least as efficient as gasoline. And, of course, wood is a renewable. http://www.lowtechmagazine.com/2010/01/wood-gas-cars.html Gerry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT Cars Coffee
There was a special on one of the many Auto TV shows last weekend featuring an Ex-Paul Newman Volvo station wagon - it had a Corvette engine/tranny and suspension. But outside it looked bone stock! A very cool car - I think they were making the rounds to prepare for an auction... LarryT On 8/16/2014 11:23 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote: The monthly cars and coffee was down the road this morning. One car caught my attention as I was walking around. Brick Volvo wagon 245DL (I think) lowered with fat tires. Walked around the front and it had a big V8 stuffed in the front and a 5speed manual. Other than that it looked like a Cambridge granola mama's grocery-getter (no Free Tibet stickers though). The owner was not around so did not talk to anyone about it, but it looked really cool. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Liquid Penetrants
Have you tried a little heat? Mitchell is right about them being made of pot metal - they get brittle and using a puller is a waste of time IMO. Have you considered a little heat?BTW, how much does a new faucet cost? Perhaps put a new one on with Never-Seize on it's handle? I wonder if the plastic ones will fit? They might last much longer if you can match the threads?They might also get brittle in lots of summer heat... LarryT On 8/16/2014 6:09 PM, Jerry Herrman via Mercedes wrote: I have come to appreciate the benefits of applying penetrants such as Liquid Wrench prior to dismantling metal fasteners such as stuck bolts, etc. One exception - I have not found this to be helpful when used for removing the handles of ordinary garden faucets. Wondering what others of you have experienced in this regard. By way of context, with the drought condtions in California, I am installing drip irrigation to feed drought resistant plants in the yard and control the water flow using ordinary bib faucets (pipe thread at one end and male hose fitting on the other). Being frugal, I use old discarded brass hose bibs and make 'em good-as-new by replacing the faucet washer and stem packing, then applying plumbers grease to the stem threads. This is easier to do when the faucet handle is removed. I have had little success with stubborn handles (on a splined shaft) despite applying Liquid Wrench over a period of days and using a puller intended for the purpose. Applying too much force usually results in breaking the faucet handle. Could it be that this type of product won't penetrate in this area? Jerry 82 240D __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 10267 (20140816) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Liquid Penetrants
Jerry wrote: I have come to appreciate the benefits of applying penetrants such as Liquid Wrench prior to dismantling metal fasteners I have had little success with stubborn handles (on a splined shaft) despite applying Liquid Wrench over a period of days and using a puller intended for the purpose. Applying too much force usually results in breaking the faucet handle. Could it be that this type of product won't penetrate in this area? It probably has more to do with the type of metal. That is, the corrosion from on brass, bronze, pot metal, magnesium, etc is different than that of iron. And I'm not very fond of Liquid Wrench. Kroil and automatic transmission fluid plus acetone are better. Heat could also be helpful - but be careful. The above metals melt before they are hot enough to glow. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
As usual, follow the money... LarryT On 8/16/2014 3:58 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: And the sole coal plant is being retrofitted to NG in a few years. The coal trains that supplied it are now being repurposed to load ships headed to the orient. Wind farms are sprouting up all over the state. Natural gas plants are not getting built, but solar is growing, and the older hydro facilities are being removed. Blame Warren Buffet. Buffet purchased the trains that haul the coal. He scooped up the local mega power company. I would not be surprised if he has a fleet of ships to take coal east. Or, that he has an investment interest in building the new nuke plants being planned out here. clay On Aug 16, 2014, at 7:03 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: 38% of power still comes from coal. Here in WA it's something like 80% hydroelectric. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Don't think I have seen this done
1989 Mercedes 420SEL Diesel http://littlerock.craigslist.org/cto/4618438742.html via cPro Craigslist App iOS: http://bit.ly/CL_iOS Android: http://bit.ly/CL_android Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - Mercedes (Smart) engine in a motorcycle
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/17/4639/Motorcycle-Article/Track-T800CDI-Diesel-Motorcycle-Quick-Ride.aspx Diesel bike converted to run on biofuel made from bacon grease for Hormel promo. When biodiesel was all the rage a few years ago, it was a running joke that you could get behind a car powered by cooking oil scavenged from the deep fryer at a local fast food joint and get a whiff of French fries. In the last few weeks if you were driving between Minnesota and California, you may have been passed by a motorcycle with an exhaust that smelled like fried bacon. Hormel, the brand synonymous with packaged meat products, created a motorcycle fueled by bacon grease and sponsored a road trip http://drivenbybacon.com/ from the company’s headquarters in Austin, Minnesota, to San Diego. The destination: the Hormel Black Label Bacon Fest http://www.sdbaconfest.com/ that takes place over the last week of August. But as any road-tripper knows, the real destination is the journey. Or in this case, the chance for Hormel to promote one of its premier products through a series of videos http://drivenbybacon.com/tagged/meatystories#content that document a Driven by Bacon publicity stunt. The bacon bike started life as a Track T800CDI diesel-fueled motorcycle formerly produced by the Dutch company E.V.A. Products BV before it went out of business. *It has a liquid-cooled 799cc turbocharged three-cylinder engine that produces 45 horsepower and was developed by Mercedes-Benz parent company Daimler for its fortwo diesel passenger car.* The conversion of the bike to run on bacon grease was performed by mechanical engineer and motorcycle savant Charlie Smithson and his team at CS Engineering http://www.csemake.com/ in Minnesota, while Dan Kaderabek of Bio-Blend Fuels http://www.bioblendfuels.com/ in Manitowoc, Wisconsin, turned 250 pounds of bacon grease into 200 gallons of B100 biodiesel for the journey. After being tuned to run on the bacon juice, the bike gets between 75 to 100 mpg and emits almost zero emissions. And according to Hormel, of course, “the exhaust emission smells like bacon!” ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege point
I think you lot are missing the point somewhat, the leaf et al are aimed more at the short commute market, which is more typical of Europe, Japan and inner suburbia I suppose. Also Australia has bugger all oil but loads of coal, so on the basis of sustainability it would make sense to have EVs in Oz and we do have variance in commuter times but the issue still persists that upfront costs are too high. My take is that cashed up folks with an environmental consensuses are they target demographics for these things. Hendrik who is sending this message on a computer powered by mostly coal On 17/08/14 01:04, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: That's the one thing I think I would find an EV to be a PITA for. While I rarely stop on the way home for anything, if I need to I need to, and it would be really inconvenient to have to go home and swap cars just because I wouldn't have the range to make a side trip. Dan On Aug 16, 2014, at 11:06 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The problem is that then your existence becomes regimented. Suppose you decide on your commute back that you need to stop by place X or some urgent matter comes up and you need to drive to place Y? You have to drive home and swap cars. Majorly inconvenient if you ask me. Until an electric car can be developed with a real range I don't have any interest in buying one. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Sacrilege
snark As I was taught in ROTC - PP (prior planning prevents piss poor performance). /snark On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 10:06 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The problem is that then your existence becomes regimented. Suppose you decide on your commute back that you need to stop by place X or some urgent matter comes up and you need to drive to place Y? You have to drive home and swap cars. Majorly inconvenient if you ask me. Until an electric car can be developed with a real range I don't have any interest in buying one. Sent from my iPhone -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benz pR0n at Monterey
What is the car in the second photo - the blue and white roadster. It looks like it might be on a VW chassis? It strikes me that the only classy cars there are all Benz's On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Along with some other German iron http://jalopnik.com/the-best-of-legends-of-the-autobahn-1622456816 --R -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Benz pR0n at Monterey
On Sat, 16 Aug 2014 22:03:24 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Along with some other German iron http://jalopnik.com/the-best-of-legends-of-the-autobahn-1622456816 What is the car in the second photo - the blue and white roadster. It looks like it might be on a VW chassis? It strikes me that the only classy cars there are all Benz's Some of the BMWs look goofy -- I never did like the 2002. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
