Re: [MBZ] Coolpad 7 smartphone
Some early morning, late night reading for you. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Cellular_frequencies http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Verizon_Wireless http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00K18Q81G?ie=UTF8at=force-full-site=1ref_=aw_bottom_links http://www.freaktab.com/showthread.php?14174-Coolpad-1S-9976T-first-review-MTK6592T-Octa-Core-2-0GHz-Smartphone-2GB-Ram-16GB-Rom-7-0-quot-Gorilla-Glass-Screen-tablet FWIW, it looks like a good phone/tablet (phablet). I don't think it will work with Verizon, you may have to switch carriers. Boost mobile has pretty cheap pricing. 3G will seem to be a very slow data network, if you are used to 4GLTE. If you want to stick with Verizon, you may want to get a Verizon Samsung Note3. http://www.verizonwireless.com/vzw/smartphones/galaxy-note-3/ Rick Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone. Original Message From: Archer75--- via Mercedes Sent: Saturday, August 30, 2014 10:54 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: arche...@embarqmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Coolpad 7 smartphone I need the biggest smartphone screen available. Currently looking at a Coolpad with a 7 screen. It's made by a major Chinese manufacturer and their phones are supposedly number three in popularity in China. (Favorable article in Forbes.) The Coolpads are not listed as unlocked, but they appear to be usable on both android and Iphone networks. Here is some of their tech data: Dual sim card, dual standby Network mode GSM;CDMA *Cellular Band **2G:GSM 900/1800MHz ***3G: WCDMA 2100MHz Service data **GSM/WCDMA My questions are: 1. Would this phone work on a Verizon network that My Iphone is on, and later on an android network? 2. Is this the equivalent of an unlocked phone? 3. All listed on Ebay are shipped from China or Hongkong. Does anyone know of a satisfactory retailer in China or Hongkong that might carry these phones? If not, would it be better to buy from China or Hongkong? 4. I read that a quadcore phone is needed for use overseas. Several on Ebay are listed as octacore phones. Would these also work overseas ( Quad = 4, Octa = 8)? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Mobil1 Rebate
Looks like there might be a hitch with this rebate thing. I read the rules in great detail this morning, as I just picked up a couple of five quart jugs of 15W-50 at WallyWorld. Looks like they're only honoring it for specific retailers, and Walmart is not on the list. Hmm. I'm going to send in my stuff anyway and see what happens. Worth a first class stamp to find out Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mobil1 Rebate
Clarification: The fine print under the list of participating retailers says Some participating retailers. Double hmm. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Looks like there might be a hitch with this rebate thing. I read the rules in great detail this morning, as I just picked up a couple of five quart jugs of 15W-50 at WallyWorld. Looks like they're only honoring it for specific retailers, and Walmart is not on the list. Hmm. I'm going to send in my stuff anyway and see what happens. Worth a first class stamp to find out Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mobil1 Rebate
Found a link with a generic rebate form: Rebate form (limit 2 per household) Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Clarification: The fine print under the list of participating retailers says Some participating retailers. Double hmm. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 10:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Looks like there might be a hitch with this rebate thing. I read the rules in great detail this morning, as I just picked up a couple of five quart jugs of 15W-50 at WallyWorld. Looks like they're only honoring it for specific retailers, and Walmart is not on the list. Hmm. I'm going to send in my stuff anyway and see what happens. Worth a first class stamp to find out Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks
Wouldn't the harder ones be better for spirited driving in the 240? --R (I just kill myself sometimes...) On 8/30/14 9:05 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: B-6s corner better but ride harder. B-4s have a softer more conventional OEM ride. Mixing them front and rear didn't work well on my '83 240D. Will stick with B-4s all around for normal driving. Gerry http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1458607-Bilstein-B4-or-B6-shocks-Any-NOTICABLE-difference On 8/30/2014 8:19 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Whats the difference between the B4 Bilstein and the more $$$ Bilstein? This is for a 1967 250S. Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks
I can't speak for the HDs on a W123, but on a W126 they were harsh. You felt every little bump and pebble in the road. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 10:29 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Wouldn't the harder ones be better for spirited driving in the 240? --R (I just kill myself sometimes...) On 8/30/14 9:05 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: B-6s corner better but ride harder. B-4s have a softer more conventional OEM ride. Mixing them front and rear didn't work well on my '83 240D. Will stick with B-4s all around for normal driving. Gerry http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1458607-Bilstein-B4-or-B6-shocks-Any-NOTICABLE-difference On 8/30/2014 8:19 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Whats the difference between the B4 Bilstein and the more $$$ Bilstein? This is for a 1967 250S. Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mobil1 Rebate
Let's try that again with an active link: http://slickdeals.net/f/7161092-mobil-1-full-synthetic-motor-oil-five-quart-jug-10-66-ar-various-weights-walmart-amazon Scroll down to the Original Post and you'll see a link to the rebate form. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Found a link with a generic rebate form: Rebate form (limit 2 per household) Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mobil1 Rebate
Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Looks like there might be a hitch with this rebate thing. I read the rules in great detail this morning, as I just picked up a couple of five quart jugs of 15W-50 at WallyWorld. Looks like they're only honoring it for specific retailers, and Walmart is not on the list. Hmm. I'm going to send in my stuff anyway and see what happens. Worth a first class stamp to find out They've been discussing it on fatwallet.com. Almost everybody got denied for that last year, but there was one guy who claimed he got it. http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1386305/ Coupon through today for Castrol Edge: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1386626/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Mobil1 Rebate
I think there was a discussion in the thread I linked to where someone had reached out to Mobil about Walmart being an acceptable merchant and they said no. I'm going to give it a shot anyway.. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:12 PM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com wrote: Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Looks like there might be a hitch with this rebate thing. I read the rules in great detail this morning, as I just picked up a couple of five quart jugs of 15W-50 at WallyWorld. Looks like they're only honoring it for specific retailers, and Walmart is not on the list. Hmm. I'm going to send in my stuff anyway and see what happens. Worth a first class stamp to find out They've been discussing it on fatwallet.com. Almost everybody got denied for that last year, but there was one guy who claimed he got it. http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1386305/ Coupon through today for Castrol Edge: http://www.fatwallet.com/forums/hot-deals/1386626/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
Ugh. Looks like I'm going to have to do this on the 300E 2.6 this week. Eldest son says he's losing about a quart a week. Took a quick look in the engine compartment and as I expected, the timing cover seal is leaking... Fortunately, Tony did this a while before I bought the car, and in the box 'o' parts he gave me there's a partial tube of the good MB sealant. I don't recall ever having done this job, but I probably did at some point in the past. I know getting the cover back on is supposed to be tricky without rolling the seal. Anyone have anything to add? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
Never done it, heard people usually get rid of car when it starts leaking because it is such a bad job Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2014, at 12:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Ugh. Looks like I'm going to have to do this on the 300E 2.6 this week. Eldest son says he's losing about a quart a week. Took a quick look in the engine compartment and as I expected, the timing cover seal is leaking... Fortunately, Tony did this a while before I bought the car, and in the box 'o' parts he gave me there's a partial tube of the good MB sealant. I don't recall ever having done this job, but I probably did at some point in the past. I know getting the cover back on is supposed to be tricky without rolling the seal. Anyone have anything to add? Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
Google is your friend? YouTube also... Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
Here's the drill: Get everything clean and dry. Use carb cleaner on the slot in the lower cover where the seal goes and blow dry with compressed air. Put a small amount of the sealant in each corner and lay the seal into the slot dry and clean. Make sure you do not trap anything, including sealant, under the rubber seal. Apply sealant to the head where the cover fits flat. Apply a thin film of silicone grease to the bottom of the cover (NOT the seal!), cover it completely. Engage the guide pins and press down on the cover, do NOT use the guide pins to align it, it must slide straight in on the pins. If it rolls down going onto the pins, the seal will always roll up and the seal lip will be pointing the wrong way. Doesn't require a large amount of pressure, but it's critical. Check the entire seal with a mirror to make sure it's not rolled over. If it is, remove the cover, clean it up, apply new sealant to the head, and try again. Verify that the cam seal is good as well, it's easy to flip or cut it. My friend Hans also loosens the front two head bolts, then retorques them when finished. Claims there is just enough spring in the gasket to allow the seal to stay in place. I've not done that, but I believe it works. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
Find a good Indie and let them do it right the first time? Max Dillon, Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Siri and privileged white men.
Siri can suck it, she couldn't understand a word that I said no matter how slowly I went. - Curt * Get with the program, privileged white man. Siri is programmed to only understand broken English Indian or Spanish. DBV ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
Thanks, Peter. I've looked over a number of DIY procedures for this on BenzWorld and PeachParts, so this pretty much dovetails with them. Thanks for taking the time to write this out, I appreciate it. When you say, Put a small amount of the sealant in each corner are you talking about the ends of the groove where the seal fits? I would assume this is to hold it in place? I was going to put a new cam seal on it - is it necessary if the current one isn't leaking? And not to sound stupid, but I've never had silicone grease, other than dielectric grease, around the garage. Is it the same thing as the silicone dielectric grease? Thanks! Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 1:36 PM, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote: Here's the drill: Get everything clean and dry. Use carb cleaner on the slot in the lower cover where the seal goes and blow dry with compressed air. Put a small amount of the sealant in each corner and lay the seal into the slot dry and clean. Make sure you do not trap anything, including sealant, under the rubber seal. Apply sealant to the head where the cover fits flat. Apply a thin film of silicone grease to the bottom of the cover (NOT the seal!), cover it completely. Engage the guide pins and press down on the cover, do NOT use the guide pins to align it, it must slide straight in on the pins. If it rolls down going onto the pins, the seal will always roll up and the seal lip will be pointing the wrong way. Doesn't require a large amount of pressure, but it's critical. Check the entire seal with a mirror to make sure it's not rolled over. If it is, remove the cover, clean it up, apply new sealant to the head, and try again. Verify that the cam seal is good as well, it's easy to flip or cut it. My friend Hans also loosens the front two head bolts, then retorques them when finished. Claims there is just enough spring in the gasket to allow the seal to stay in place. I've not done that, but I believe it works. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks
Probably would, but how do you do spirited driving in a 240D? (g) Gerry Wouldn't the harder ones be better for spirited driving in the 240? --R (I just kill myself sometimes...) On 8/30/14 9:05 PM, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote: B-6s corner better but ride harder. B-4s have a softer more conventional OEM ride. Mixing them front and rear didn't work well on my '83 240D. Will stick with B-4s all around for normal driving. Gerry http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?1458607-Bilstein-B4-or-B6-shocks-Any-NOTICABLE-difference On 8/30/2014 8:19 PM, Jon Agne via Mercedes wrote: Whats the difference between the B4 Bilstein and the more $$$ Bilstein? This is for a 1967 250S. Jon ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
The sealant at each end of the slot where the seal goes is what keeps it from leaking oil -- it almost never actually leaks under or over the seal, but the corner dribbles. Serious design issue, there does not appear to be a sealant that does not eventually leak. Semi-hardening ones are the best, but they still only last 30,000 miles or so, or for me, every couple years. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
Silicone dielectric grease will work fine, it's just to make the bottom of the cover slippery so it won't roll the seal lip over. A new cam seal is a good idea, they are cheap and if the one in there fails, you have to replace the front cover again. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks
Bilstein HD shocks are very hard -- made that mistake in the Volvo. Might be fine in a performance car for a youngster with good kidneys and a weak mind, but for normal sedan driving to and from work, very bouncy. Very stiff. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Classic car stock
I always thought the stock market was a waste of time. These people likely feel the same way. What a cool model: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/10830299/Investors-sought-to-cash-in-on-rising-classic-car-values.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Spring Compressor?
Anyone got one they are willing to rent? Kaleb? I need to do the rear springs on the S500 soon, and I would rather not buy one if I can avoid it. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Classic car stock
Good idea, but still risky. If the economy tanks in the future there's a good chance the value on these won't appreciate significantly. Buy APPL. I did - 15 years ago. MacDan On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:02 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always thought the stock market was a waste of time. These people likely feel the same way. What a cool model: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/10830299/Investors-sought-to-cash-in-on-rising-classic-car-values.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com javascript:; To: Mercedes List mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; Subject: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal Message-ID: 75caa265-6984-4170-9de4-cf89c7acd...@penoff.com javascript:; Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Ugh. Looks like I'm going to have to do this on the 300E 2.6 this week. Eldest son says he's losing about a quart a week. Took a quick look in the engine compartment and as I expected, the timing cover seal is leaking... Fortunately, Tony did this a while before I bought the car, and in the box 'o' parts he gave me there's a partial tube of the good MB sealant. I don't recall ever having done this job, but I probably did at some point in the past. I know getting the cover back on is supposed to be tricky without rolling the seal. Anyone have anything to add? Thanks, That SUCKS. I spent a good amount time and read five or six methods of the best ways to do this to make sure this would never happen again. That was in 2007 and I was never really completely happy with the results. Sorry to hear that you only got seven years of that repair. With that said the sealant you have is also from 2007. Given the difficulty and complexity of the job and the problems with not doing it exactly right you may want to spring for a new tube! Tony wirtel Former 300e/2.6 owner -- Tony Wirtel mobile i3 +1 610.551.5923 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spring Compressor?
I have one --R On 8/31/14 4:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Anyone got one they are willing to rent? Kaleb? I need to do the rear springs on the S500 soon, and I would rather not buy one if I can avoid it. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Seal
Tony, Considering that the repair lasted seven years and the apparent understanding that this is a lousy design that will never work right no matter what, I wouldn't lose too much sleep over it. It's been a while since I've done any engine work on an M103, but I'm almost sure I've done this before. With Peter's excellent description and all of the online references I've found on the job it doesn't look bad at all. And yes, I suspect the tube of sealant you gave me is probably well past it's shelf life. With a jobber account at my local dealer, this is probably less than $30 worth of parts, even with the sealant. I think the seal is under $3 my cost, and the cam seal around $20, if that. I have to go pull the box of spares off the shelf to get the sealant part number, but I'm sure it won't be bad. My dealer parts guy is really, really good, so it's always possible he could pull a freshly used tube out from the shop and just hand it to me. He's done stuff like that before Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 4:43 PM, Tony Wirtel via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: That SUCKS. I spent a good amount time and read five or six methods of the best ways to do this to make sure this would never happen again. That was in 2007 and I was never really completely happy with the results. Sorry to hear that you only got seven years of that repair. With that said the sealant you have is also from 2007. Given the difficulty and complexity of the job and the problems with not doing it exactly right you may want to spring for a new tube! Tony wirtel Former 300e/2.6 owner -- Tony Wirtel mobile i3 +1 610.551.5923 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
BMWs are maintenance heavy as a rule. A blast to drive, but break often. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
Larry, You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 1980s. These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous rodbender diesels. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
So, was i mistaken about the ML and R Diesel MBs?What about the E Class Diesels of the 00's? ;-) Larry On 8/31/2014 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Larry, You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 1980s. These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous rodbender diesels. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Sealing the deal
The trick is to put the cam seal in AFTER installing the cover, there is a special tool for installing the cover with cam seal in place but who has that? Check the seating of the timing cover seal before installing the cam seal. The sealant is important insofar that you get stuff that does not go hard, I put some in the groove to help hold the U shaped seal in place while installing and you need to put some on the mating surfaces as well. If your not 100% sure you have the right sealant, go and get some. Hendrik who thinks he finally managed to seal up the timing cover On 01/09/14 03:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Thanks, Peter. I've looked over a number of DIY procedures for this on BenzWorld and PeachParts, so this pretty much dovetails with them. Thanks for taking the time to write this out, I appreciate it. When you say, Put a small amount of the sealant in each corner are you talking about the ends of the groove where the seal fits? I would assume this is to hold it in place? I was going to put a new cam seal on it - is it necessary if the current one isn't leaking? And not to sound stupid, but I've never had silicone grease, other than dielectric grease, around the garage. Is it the same thing as the silicone dielectric grease? Thanks! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
All good cars. The v6 diesels have some problem with either leaking inter cooler lines or turbo oil lines which have to be replaced at a certain interval. I have not had this problem myself though. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:03 PM, LarryTvia Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, was i mistaken about the ML and R Diesel MBs?What about the E Class Diesels of the 00's? ;-) Larry On 8/31/2014 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Larry, You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 1980s. These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous rodbender diesels. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon
Thx! On 8/31/2014 8:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: All good cars. The v6 diesels have some problem with either leaking inter cooler lines or turbo oil lines which have to be replaced at a certain interval. I have not had this problem myself though. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2014, at 7:03 PM, LarryTvia Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, was i mistaken about the ML and R Diesel MBs?What about the E Class Diesels of the 00's? ;-) Larry On 8/31/2014 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Larry, You might have been thinking of an earlier discussion about BMW diesel wagons from the 1980s. These were nasty to begin with and had a history of some serious engine (head) related issues that were never resolved, a la the 350SDL and the infamous rodbender diesels. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 6:34 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
Thanks for that report - I've seen 03-05 CVs in the $2.5 to $3K range. Larry On 8/31/2014 8:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino wrote: My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon I thought some listers had said they had known of problems? But it's possibly I am remembering wrong. I know someone had trouble with a GL costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a reference for the R Diesel. Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned models were well cared for. CV's used as police cars are everywhere but maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's US. Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I would consider a 140 over the CVs. I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with MBs quality problems. For me, the MBs made from roughly 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me. So my biggest quality concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that would be my target range based on price. I know that pushes the 140 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV. BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well. Thanks for all the help gang - LarryT On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What makes you think the ml or r is not well made? Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're going to need a newer car. I would like to stay with MB but the decline in quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai? Their 10 yr/100K warranty looks attractive, What about VW ? Thanks, Larry On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote: Hi Gang, Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape? saw t at a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles. My concern is problem areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time. Have also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K! That's more than our 91 300D which only has 236k. But at this time I'm just looking. Thoughts? LarryT 91 300D 78 240D 74 911 66 MGB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Sealing the deal
Thanks for the pointers, Hendrik. I figured I could do the cam seal in place, especially since I don't recall there being a shoulder for it to stop against? I'm not going to risk seven year old sealant, believe me. I'l get a new tube of it when I pick up the seals. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The trick is to put the cam seal in AFTER installing the cover, there is a special tool for installing the cover with cam seal in place but who has that? Check the seating of the timing cover seal before installing the cam seal. The sealant is important insofar that you get stuff that does not go hard, I put some in the groove to help hold the U shaped seal in place while installing and you need to put some on the mating surfaces as well. If your not 100% sure you have the right sealant, go and get some. Hendrik who thinks he finally managed to seal up the timing cover On 01/09/14 03:30, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Thanks, Peter. I've looked over a number of DIY procedures for this on BenzWorld and PeachParts, so this pretty much dovetails with them. Thanks for taking the time to write this out, I appreciate it. When you say, Put a small amount of the sealant in each corner are you talking about the ends of the groove where the seal fits? I would assume this is to hold it in place? I was going to put a new cam seal on it - is it necessary if the current one isn't leaking? And not to sound stupid, but I've never had silicone grease, other than dielectric grease, around the garage. Is it the same thing as the silicone dielectric grease? Thanks! Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
I had a 1998 Crown Vic for a company car when I lived in Indianapolis. While there's nothing outstanding about them in general, they are pretty durable, get decent gas mileage considering the HP/weight ratio, and are relatively comfortable to cruise on the highway in (not compared to a W126 or W140, however.) They're pretty cheap to maintain as well. I will say that they suck major league in any kind of snow or slippery surface. Mine couldn't get up the driveway when it was wet or with even a light dusting of snow. Granted, some of that is due to it being a rear wheel drive car, but the ass end was so light compared to the rest of the car you had to be really careful when applying power in slippery situations or you would end up doing an unintentional doughnut. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 8:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My son and I both have Crown Vics. His is a 97 and mine a 95. They are good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB. Expect mid 20s in MPG for those vintages. The engineering is good and the power adequate. Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control. Some years had some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was replaced with the alloy one. Good engine longevity. And, despite scary reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety. When we bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron. Greg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Sealing the deal
Installing the top timing chain cover with the cam seal in place is just about impossible to get right. Very easy to fit the cam seal after installing the chain cover. Essentially you want to put the cover in at an angle so the bottom part is just about where it needs to be and then push in the top. If you try to push the cover on straight it will more than likely distort the U seal. With the cam seal in place you have to push the cover on pretty much straight and then the U seal will pop out of place and naughty angry words may be said. The problem apart from the cam seal are the pins and you may need to give the cover a gentle tap with a rubber mallet. Hendrik who has done this job a few times On 01/09/14 10:17, Dan Penoff wrote: Thanks for the pointers, Hendrik. I figured I could do the cam seal in place, especially since I don't recall there being a shoulder for it to stop against? I'm not going to risk seven year old sealant, believe me. I'l get a new tube of it when I pick up the seals. Dan On Aug 31, 2014, at 8:11 PM, Hendrik and Fay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The trick is to put the cam seal in AFTER installing the cover, there is a special tool for installing the cover with cam seal in place but who has that? Check the seating of the timing cover seal before installing the cam seal. The sealant is important insofar that you get stuff that does not go hard, I put some in the groove to help hold the U shaped seal in place while installing and you need to put some on the mating surfaces as well. If your not 100% sure you have the right sealant, go and get some. Hendrik who thinks he finally managed to seal up the timing cover ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Classic car stock
Might be a good idea. I watch a lot of collector/vintage auctions on the car porn channel. (Velocity channel) even the experts are often wrong about how much these cars bring. And when the economy tanks agsin everything goes down anyway. On Aug 31, 2014 4:02 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always thought the stock market was a waste of time. These people likely feel the same way. What a cool model: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/10830299/Investors-sought-to-cash-in-on-rising-classic-car-values.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Classic car stock
It's a very thin market. At those prices there may only be one or two bidders.. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Might be a good idea. I watch a lot of collector/vintage auctions on the car porn channel. (Velocity channel) even the experts are often wrong about how much these cars bring. And when the economy tanks agsin everything goes down anyway. On Aug 31, 2014 4:02 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always thought the stock market was a waste of time. These people likely feel the same way. What a cool model: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/10830299/Investors-sought-to-cash-in-on-rising-classic-car-values.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] M103 Timing Cover Sealing the deal
On Sun, 31 Aug 2014 20:47:01 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I'm not going to risk seven year old sealant, believe me. I'l get a new tube of it when I pick up the seals. Would hylomar help? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Classic car stocktake
There are a lot of questions that need to be asked, such as the running costs involved (insurance, repairs/maintenance, storage), who chooses which car to buy, can you sell your share in a hurry if needed etc. You do have to factor in the fun part, driving 7 or 8 exotics in a spirited manner, which is not something you can experience with buying stocks. However the question is has the market peaked for the time being? As Andrew said, there is a very small group willing to drop big cash on old iron but there is also a lot of new money around and this sort of thing may appeal to wealthy folks from China, Russia and such, who would go to England for their holiday to drive flash cars, without the need to import and store the cars. Hendrik who will not be investing On 01/09/14 11:46, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: It's a very thin market. At those prices there may only be one or two bidders.. On Sun, Aug 31, 2014 at 9:43 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Might be a good idea. I watch a lot of collector/vintage auctions on the car porn channel. (Velocity channel) even the experts are often wrong about how much these cars bring. And when the economy tanks agsin everything goes down anyway. On Aug 31, 2014 4:02 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I always thought the stock market was a waste of time. These people likely feel the same way. What a cool model: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/classiccars/10830299/Investors-sought-to-cash-in-on-rising-classic-car-values.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Spring Compressor?
Do you even need a spring compressor for the back? 123s and 126s don't. -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 4:17 PM To: Mercedes List Subject: [MBZ] Spring Compressor? Anyone got one they are willing to rent? Kaleb? I need to do the rear springs on the S500 soon, and I would rather not buy one if I can avoid it. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
