date:20140902

Larry,

If you have the plastic socket ends, try to replace them with metal.  I was
able to get some new from MB after much EPC research, but I have also found
them at the junk yard on the 123  126 diesels.  Note each rod has
left-hand threads one end, right-hand at other end.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Sep 2, 2014 6:28 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 We started having another problem recently - one of the ball  socket
assys for the accelerator linkage has fallen off twice during the past week
- once when my wife was driving and once when I was - I was able to find it
and snap it back on but it's just one more thing that calls into question
its reliability.  I'll order  new Ball  docket today so hopefully that
will fix it   I have 238K on it so I wonder what will happen next?

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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks

2014-09-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

I put a set on the front of my former 1982 300SD and I regretted it every time 
I drove the car.

I would advise against using the HDs under just about any circumstance.

Dan

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Feeling every pavement crack in your kidneys gets old pretty quick on the 
 interstate.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is the
increase in battery life you get due to the decrease in power consumption.

If it's a beater, I understand, but if you're going to keep it for a while and
it gets used regularly an SSD is a good investment.

Dan

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I wondered about that, Rick Hawkins the macman suggests a basic 1TB Tosh, $60
from Amazon. I'll just go with that, cheap enough.

--R

On 9/1/14 6:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
I would avoid a hybrid drive, as they have had issues.

Go with an SSD if you can deal with the lesser amount of space. It will make
the machine scream.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 1, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Looks like a Tosh or Seagate hybrid might be the way to go

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Solid-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-ST1000LM014/dp/B00B99JUBQ/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149489

--R

On 9/1/14 4:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
So after an hour at the apple store and various incantations and
application of Black Arts, the genii determined that the hard drive was
going bad (wait, wait, I am detecting an incipient failure in the AE-435
unit...) and the software update probably stressed it enough to pretty
much make it so it did not want to work and boot and such. They could not
pull the one file off it I wanted, but suggested putting the drive in an
external case might enable me to find and pull the file. No big deal,
about 1.5 hour of editing a doc, but still... They did not charge me
anything, that was nice.

So I am going to get a 1TB drive and put it in, see if I can reanimate it.
They wanted $160 for a 500GB replacement, I think not. Should be able to
do an internet OS load, if not the guy said I could come back in and they
would do it all.

If anyone has a particular suggestion for a good drive, please feel free
to share.

The machine is an early 2011 Macbook Pro 2.7GHz 4GB and an ebola-infected
500GB HD. It had some flavor of 10.8 OS which looked like a panther of
some sort.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks

2014-09-02 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes

Agreed... My buddy put them in his 124 and Regretted it.  He thought the
car was too soft and wanted it to ride like his modern BMW.

In the end, the comfort shocks are much Stiffer than worn out originals.
 You'll be satisfied.

Jaime


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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I put a set on the front of my former 1982 300SD and I regretted it every
 time I drove the car.

 I would advise against using the HDs under just about any circumstance.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

  On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:01 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  Feeling every pavement crack in your kidneys gets old pretty quick on
 the interstate.
 
  Peter
 
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Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon

2014-09-02 Thread LarryT via Mercedes


Thanks Max -
I have also replaced a couple with metal.   This one has one end 
buried under the manifold making access difficult.But the good news 
is my Weber  Carb Parts distributor has the correct threaded rods he 
will cut to order for me.But I may have to RR the manifold to 
measure the rod length and check the orientation of each rod end.


I plan to order the rod and ball pin today from MB - they'll have 
it tomorrow and that will allow me to restore some reliability in the 
accelerator linkage...


The fun just never ends ;-)

Thanks again for the comments -
LarryT

On 9/2/2014 7:09 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Larry,

If you have the plastic socket ends, try to replace them with metal.  I was
able to get some new from MB after much EPC research, but I have also found
them at the junk yard on the 123  126 diesels.  Note each rod has
left-hand threads one end, right-hand at other end.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

On Sep 2, 2014 6:28 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

We started having another problem recently - one of the ball  socket

assys for the accelerator linkage has fallen off twice during the past week
- once when my wife was driving and once when I was - I was able to find it
and snap it back on but it's just one more thing that calls into question
its reliability.  I'll order  new Ball  docket today so hopefully that
will fix it   I have 238K on it so I wonder what will happen next?
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

Dan,

Would that hold true for a laptop running Windows Vista?  Win 7?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC

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 The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is
the increase in battery life you get due to the decrease in power
consumption.


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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks

2014-09-02 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes

you can't go wrong with bilstein comfort/standard shocks in any case, so
they are probably the way to go for most people.


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Agreed... My buddy put them in his 124 and Regretted it.  He thought the
 car was too soft and wanted it to ride like his modern BMW.

 In the end, the comfort shocks are much Stiffer than worn out originals.
  You'll be satisfied.

 Jaime


 On Tuesday, September 2, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I put a set on the front of my former 1982 300SD and I regretted it every
  time I drove the car.
 
  I would advise against using the HDs under just about any circumstance.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
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   Feeling every pavement crack in your kidneys gets old pretty quick on
  the interstate.
  
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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks

I think a guy named Jabba sells them too, real cheepcheep and not chinee 
knockoffs.


--R


On 9/2/14 10:56 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

you can't go wrong with bilstein comfort/standard shocks in any case, so
they are probably the way to go for most people.


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Agreed... My buddy put them in his 124 and Regretted it.  He thought the
car was too soft and wanted it to ride like his modern BMW.

In the end, the comfort shocks are much Stiffer than worn out originals.
  You'll be satisfied.

Jaime


On Tuesday, September 2, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I put a set on the front of my former 1982 300SD and I regretted it every
time I drove the car.

I would advise against using the HDs under just about any circumstance.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:01 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 

mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:

Feeling every pavement crack in your kidneys gets old pretty quick on

the interstate.

Peter





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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks

2014-09-02 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes

many here only love the chinee knockoff of the hey buddy swindle.  you
can lead a horse to water, but if the beast decides to drown himself, what
can you do?


On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I think a guy named Jabba sells them too, real cheepcheep and not chinee
 knockoffs.

 --R



 On 9/2/14 10:56 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

 you can't go wrong with bilstein comfort/standard shocks in any case, so
 they are probably the way to go for most people.


 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Agreed... My buddy put them in his 124 and Regretted it.  He thought the
 car was too soft and wanted it to ride like his modern BMW.

 In the end, the comfort shocks are much Stiffer than worn out originals.
   You'll be satisfied.

 Jaime


 On Tuesday, September 2, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  I put a set on the front of my former 1982 300SD and I regretted it
 every
 time I drove the car.

 I would advise against using the HDs under just about any circumstance.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

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 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:

 Feeling every pavement crack in your kidneys gets old pretty quick on

 the interstate.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

2014-09-02 Thread Gary Hurst via Mercedes

i would not get anything other than an SSD drive on any machine that i was
looking to upgrade if the OS will be on that upgraded drive

On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is
the increase in battery life you get due to the decrease in power
consumption.

If it's a beater, I understand, but if you're going to keep it for a while
and it gets used regularly an SSD is a good investment.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I wondered about that, Rick Hawkins the macman suggests a basic 1TB
Tosh, $60 from Amazon. I'll just go with that, cheap enough.

--R

On 9/1/14 6:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
I would avoid a hybrid drive, as they have had issues.

Go with an SSD if you can deal with the lesser amount of space. It will
make the machine scream.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 1, 2014, at 5:14 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Looks like a Tosh or Seagate hybrid might be the way to go

http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Solid-Hybrid-2-5-Inch-ST1000LM014/dp/B00B99JUBQ/ref=pd_cp_pc_0
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822149489

--R

On 9/1/14 4:23 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
So after an hour at the apple store and various incantations and
application of Black Arts, the genii determined that the hard drive was
going bad (wait, wait, I am detecting an incipient failure in the AE-435
unit...) and the software update probably stressed it enough to pretty much
make it so it did not want to work and boot and such. They could not pull
the one file off it I wanted, but suggested putting the drive in an
external case might enable me to find and pull the file. No big deal,
about 1.5 hour of editing a doc, but still... They did not charge me
anything, that was nice.

So I am going to get a 1TB drive and put it in, see if I can
reanimate it. They wanted $160 for a 500GB replacement, I think not.
Should be able to do an internet OS load, if not the guy said I could come
back in and they would do it all.

If anyone has a particular suggestion for a good drive, please feel
free to share.

The machine is an early 2011 Macbook Pro 2.7GHz 4GB and an
ebola-infected 500GB HD. It had some flavor of 10.8 OS which looked like a
panther of some sort.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

2014-09-02 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes


Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8.


Let me remind y'all about the other end of the stick: resale.
For the Cummins trucks, it _still_ looks like you get every
bit of the purchase premium back out, no matter how old the
truck is.  At least, around here.

If the 1500 truck's drivetrain holds up well, I'd expect
similar behavior.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

2014-09-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

I am amazed at how much old junky dodges with cummins sells for around here.

Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

 Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8.
 
 Let me remind y'all about the other end of the stick: resale.
 For the Cummins trucks, it _still_ looks like you get every
 bit of the purchase premium back out, no matter how old the
 truck is.  At least, around here.
 
 If the 1500 truck's drivetrain holds up well, I'd expect
 similar behavior.
 
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Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon

Part of reliability is fixing everything as it fails. If you'd fixed a failed 
ball socket when it failed the first time you wouldn't have this consideration.
It also means looking over things on a regular basis. As a car ages you need 
greater vigilance.

You could switch over and drive a Hyundai but somebody used to Mercedes and 
Porsche isn't going to be happy with anything short of the Genesis and maybe 
not even then.

Go try a Passat, I had one as a rental last week and it drove real well 
although I wasn't really happy with the DSG but I suspect most people won't 
care.

-Curt



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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 6:28 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon
 

Wow!  That sounds interesting.   We have auctions here on Tues  Thurs - 
I think I'll try to watch what happens this evening

We started having another problem recently - one of the ball  socket 
assys for the accelerator linkage has fallen off twice during the past 
week - once when my wife was driving and once when I was - I was able to 
find it and snap it back on but it's just one more thing that calls into 
question its reliability.  I'll order  new Ball  docket today so 
hopefully that  will fix it   I have 238K on it so I wonder what 
will happen next?

Thanks for the info --

LarryT

On 9/1/2014 12:58 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:
 Old cop cruisers are out of fashion in the taxi trade, so auction prices are 
 in the pits.  You can snag a good example for under $2k.  The 2007-2011 
 models maybe hit 3k

 clay



 On Aug 31, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

 My son and I both have Crown Vics.  His is a 97 and mine a 95.  They are
 good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB.  Expect mid 20s in
 MPG for those vintages.  The engineering is good and the power adequate.
 Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control.  Some years had
 some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was
 replaced with the alloy one.  Good engine longevity.  And, despite scary
 reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety.  When we
 bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron.

 Greg

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of LarryT
 via Mercedes
 Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM
 To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon

 I thought some listers had said they had known of problems?  But it's
 possibly I am remembering wrong.   I know someone had trouble with a GL
 costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would
 consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a
 reference for the R Diesel.

 Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get
 surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned
 models were well cared for.  CV's used as police cars are everywhere but
 maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's
 US.

 Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I  would consider a 140 over
 the CVs.

 I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the
 same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with
 MBs quality problems.  For me, the MBs made from roughly
 98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range
 (06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me.  So my biggest quality
 concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that
 would be my target range based on price.   I know that pushes the 140
 off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially
 attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV.

 BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot
 about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well.

 Thanks for all the help gang -

 LarryT


 On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 What makes you think the ml or r is not well made?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're
 going to need a newer car.  I would like to stay with MB but the decline in
 quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai?   Their 10
 yr/100K warranty looks attractive,
 What about VW ?

 Thanks,
 Larry


 On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote:
 Hi Gang,
 Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape?  saw t at
 a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles.   My concern is problem
 areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time.   Have
 also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07
 R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K!  That's more than our 91
 300D which only has 236k.  But

Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

Pretty much true for every computer. Make sure your OS supports wear leveling 
(WinXP does NOT) so you don't kill the drive before its time.
I put an SSD in my desktop machine (HP XW8600, 10GB RAM, Win7, top of the pops 
about 5 years ago, great home machine now) and boot times went from about 1 
minute to about 30 seconds. The bios checks take longer than the OS booting. I 
got a 120GB drive as I have a pair of 500GB drives for data.

-Curt



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To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
 

Dan,

Would that hold true for a laptop running Windows Vista?  Win 7?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC




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 The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is
the increase in battery life you get due to the decrease in power
consumption.


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[MBZ] 124 water leaks

2014-09-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Somebody remind me of the water leak points in the 124? I have noticed in the 
past some water in the passenger side floor board rear of my 95, and thought I 
needed to try and track it down. It was not very much and I thought it may be 
from the ac. Well last night and today we have for quite a bit of rain and the 
back passenger floor is flooded, and the front is also very wet. Maybe it's 
coming in from the front windshield? Bad replacement sometime in the past?

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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

Having driven one I am too, its not a refined engine, more like my 240D (with 
much more power of course) than my TDI. That said I haven't driven any of the 
competition to compare.

-Curt

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

I am amazed at how much old junky dodges with cummins sells for around here.

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On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

 Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8.

 Let me remind y'all about the other end of the stick: resale.
 For the Cummins trucks, it _still_ looks like you get every
 bit of the purchase premium back out, no matter how old the
 truck is.  At least, around here.

 If the 1500 truck's drivetrain holds up well, I'd expect
 similar behavior.

 -- Jim

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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

The dealers like to up-option the crap out of them. Its easy to spend $50k with 
the big cab, leather interior, fancy radio etc.
The one we drove was right on $40,000.

-Curt

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To: 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:46 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

The ones I have seen down here were north of 50k

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 On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8.

 It'd be interesting to see a mileage test with loaded trucks. I'd guess that 
 loaded up the diesel will get much better mpg and the better torque will make 
 it more pleasant to drive.

 The 8spd transmission that comes standard with the diesel is silky smooth. 
 Apparently its German.

 Playing with the build and price online the Dodge is about $3,000 less than a 
 Ford F150 when set up the way I'd want it, almost enough to pay for the 
 diesel.

 -Curt

 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

 That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive 

 Sent from my iPhone

  On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

  Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local 
  Dodge dealership.
  This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine 
  which isn't a big surprise as its European.
  We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving 
  around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, 
  they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking 
  at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger.

  Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look 
  at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular 
  basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to 
  average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger 
  only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually 
  beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get.

  The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model 
  was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 
  door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the 
  two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on 
  the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had 
  satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay 
  the subscription.

  If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the 
  gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was 
  normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel.

  -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

Thanks Gary and Curt, now I need to find a source for a drive that will fit
our old laptop.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
 On Sep 2, 2014 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Pretty much true for every computer. Make sure your OS supports wear
 leveling (WinXP does NOT) so you don't kill the drive before its time.
 I put an SSD in my desktop machine (HP XW8600, 10GB RAM, Win7, top of the
 pops about 5 years ago, great home machine now) and boot times went from
 about 1 minute to about 30 seconds. The bios checks take longer than the OS
 booting. I got a 120GB drive as I have a pair of 500GB drives for data.

 -Curt


 
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 To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it


 Dan,

 Would that hold true for a laptop running Windows Vista?  Win 7?

 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC




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  The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is
 the increase in battery life you get due to the decrease in power
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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

2014-09-02 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes

Well that's not too bad but still a lot ok my mind for a pickup truck

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The dealers like to up-option the crap out of them. Its easy to spend $50k 
 with the big cab, leather interior, fancy radio etc.
 The one we drove was right on $40,000.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: 
 Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
 
 
 The ones I have seen down here were north of 50k
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8.
 
 It'd be interesting to see a mileage test with loaded trucks. I'd guess that 
 loaded up the diesel will get much better mpg and the better torque will 
 make it more pleasant to drive.
 
 The 8spd transmission that comes standard with the diesel is silky smooth. 
 Apparently its German.
 
 Playing with the build and price online the Dodge is about $3,000 less than 
 a Ford F150 when set up the way I'd want it, almost enough to pay for the 
 diesel.
 
 -Curt
 
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
 
 That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local 
 Dodge dealership.
 This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine 
 which isn't a big surprise as its European.
 We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving 
 around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, 
 they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking 
 at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger.
 
 Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look 
 at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular 
 basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to 
 average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger 
 only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually 
 beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get.
 
 The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model 
 was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 
 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the 
 two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on 
 the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had 
 satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay 
 the subscription.
 
 If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the 
 gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was 
 normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel.
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it

Should be no problem. The Crucial drive I bought is a 2.5 drive for a laptop, 
I had to buy an adapter to put it into my PC.
It came with an adapter to put it in an older laptop that uses a slightly 
larger drive.

The two highest rated I saw when I was shopping were Crucial and Samsung.

-Curt



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To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it
 

Thanks Gary and Curt, now I need to find a source for a drive that will fit
our old laptop.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
On Sep 2, 2014 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Pretty much true for every computer. Make sure your OS supports wear
 leveling (WinXP does NOT) so you don't kill the drive before its time.
 I put an SSD in my desktop machine (HP XW8600, 10GB RAM, Win7, top of the
 pops about 5 years ago, great home machine now) and boot times went from
 about 1 minute to about 30 seconds. The bios checks take longer than the OS
 booting. I got a 120GB drive as I have a pair of 500GB drives for data.

 -Curt


 
  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:50 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it


 Dan,

 Would that hold true for a laptop running Windows Vista?  Win 7?

 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC




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 the increase in battery life you get due to the decrease in power
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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it


Send me a 1TB please

--R


On 9/2/14 11:27 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:

i would not get anything other than an SSD drive on any machine that i was
looking to upgrade if the OS will be on that upgraded drive






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Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it


2.5 drives for laptops

--R


On 9/2/14 11:50 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks Gary and Curt, now I need to find a source for a drive that will fit
our old laptop.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
  On Sep 2, 2014 11:42 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


Pretty much true for every computer. Make sure your OS supports wear
leveling (WinXP does NOT) so you don't kill the drive before its time.
I put an SSD in my desktop machine (HP XW8600, 10GB RAM, Win7, top of the
pops about 5 years ago, great home machine now) and boot times went from
about 1 minute to about 30 seconds. The bios checks take longer than the OS
booting. I got a 120GB drive as I have a pair of 500GB drives for data.

-Curt



  From: Meade Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 9:50 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Macbook Pro S/W update kills it


Dan,

Would that hold true for a laptop running Windows Vista?  Win 7?

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC




On Sep 2, 2014 8:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

The beauty of an SSD in a laptop, besides making it blindingly fast, is

the increase in battery life you get due to the decrease in power
consumption.



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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

i rented in Italy a Lancia meenievayan which was a Plymouth Voyager with 
the Lancia name.  It had a diesel, not sure what kind but it was plenty 
peppy and got good L/km which near as I figured was in the mid-30s in 
our terms.  Made me wonder why not here?


--R


On 9/1/14 9:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local Dodge 
dealership.
This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine which 
isn't a big surprise as its European.
We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving 
around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, 
they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking at 
the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger.

Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look at 
the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular basis the 
diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to average 15mpg, 
the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger only 15... The diesel 
is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually beat EPA expectations so I 
bet 30 won't be that hard to get.

The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model was 
stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 door 
extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the two trucks 
we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on the Dodge was 
the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had satellite radio which I 
hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay the subscription.

If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the 
gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was normal 
but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

Yeah I've really had to recalibrate my pricing for this truck. We bought the 
Ranger in '08 with 25,000 miles for $10,000. Today $10k doesn't buy much in a 
4wd truck. You'd be looking at 10 years old with 150,000 miles and probably 
significant rust.

Talking to the dealers the deal I got in '08 is because the price of gas went 
up and people traded in trucks on cars. Then cash for clunkers ate up a bunch 
of perfectly good trucks.

Since used trucks are expensive the new truck market is high to match.

I think the best deal I've found so far is a 1 owner 2010 Nissan Titan with 
34,000 miles, they want $25k. They've had it a couple months, I'm thinking to 
stroll in with a $20k offer. Financing on used trucks sucks though...

-Curt



 From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
 

Well that's not too bad but still a lot ok my mind for a pickup truck

Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 2, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 The dealers like to up-option the crap out of them. Its easy to spend $50k 
 with the big cab, leather interior, fancy radio etc.
 The one we drove was right on $40,000.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: 
 Cc: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
 
 
 The ones I have seen down here were north of 50k
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 9:09 PM, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Not really, $4,000 over the v6 or $3,000 over the 5.7l v8.
 
 It'd be interesting to see a mileage test with loaded trucks. I'd guess that 
 loaded up the diesel will get much better mpg and the better torque will 
 make it more pleasant to drive.
 
 The 8spd transmission that comes standard with the diesel is silky smooth. 
 Apparently its German.
 
 Playing with the build and price online the Dodge is about $3,000 less than 
 a Ford F150 when set up the way I'd want it, almost enough to pay for the 
 diesel.
 
 -Curt
 
 From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
 
 That Eco diesel is very nice, and very expensive 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 
 On Sep 1, 2014, at 8:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Got a chance to drive a Dodge 1500 eco diesel yesterday at our local 
 Dodge dealership.
 This is definitely not a 24 valve Cummins. Much more Mercedes like engine 
 which isn't a big surprise as its European.
 We also drove a 5.7l Hemi V8 which gave a nice comparison. For just driving 
 around they make similar power. The gas engine actually makes MORE noise, 
 they've obviously worked very hard to make the diesel very quiet. Looking 
 at the engine its small, it looks like the V6 in my Ranger.
 
 Power-wise for acceleration they're similar which makes sense when you look 
 at the numbers, I suspect if you're moving a lot of weight on a regular 
 basis the diesel would do it for much less fuel. The gasser is supposed to 
 average 15mpg, the diesel is rated for 22. For comparison my '03 Ranger 
 only 15... The diesel is supposed to do 27mpg on the highway. I usually 
 beat EPA expectations so I bet 30 won't be that hard to get.
 
 The truck is nice, has a dial for gear selection although our gasser model 
 was stripped down and had a conventional column shifter. Dodge only does 4 
 door extended cabs, not an access cab like the Ford we had tried but the 
 two trucks we drove had shorter rear doors. One feature I really liked on 
 the Dodge was the mirrors flip up for towing. Both that we tried had 
 satellite radio which I hate paying extra for since I probably won't pay 
 the subscription.
 
 If I were going to buy one for me, considering my truck needs I'd buy the 
 gasser. If I had a business or a farm where towing or hauling loads was 
 normal but we didn't need a 2500 I'd buy the diesel.
 
 -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

2014-09-02 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


On 01/09/2014 10:40 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote:
Went to the local market yesterday. Pulled into parking space next to 
a 1500 EcoDiesel.  Went did did my shopping.
when I returned to mu car the owner of the Dodge was loading up his 
groceries. We had a 20 min chat about the truck.
He's had his for 3 months. Just filled it up and he says he gets 25~26 
mpg mixed driving 22~23 city only. Two weeks ago he went
from Baton Rouge to Jeff City, Mizzery. Averaged 31~32 on the road 
with it. He was well pleased with the performance and
the power the little diesel had. I asked him if he had to do over 
again if he would buy it or another brand with a gasser.

His answer was Hell Yes I'd buy it again in a heart beat.



But it sure would be nice to be able to afford to swap it about the time 
that the warranty expired.
Repairing vehicles these days tends to be pretty expensive and diesel 
just seems to makes it worse.
These might turn out to be very good engines or they might not. Only 
time will tell.


Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

Time already has, the engines are VM Motori, in use in Italy in medium duty 
trucks for several years.

-Curt

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Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

On 01/09/2014 10:40 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote:
 Went to the local market yesterday. Pulled into parking space next to 
 a 1500 EcoDiesel.  Went did did my shopping.
 when I returned to mu car the owner of the Dodge was loading up his 
 groceries. We had a 20 min chat about the truck.
 He's had his for 3 months. Just filled it up and he says he gets 25~26 
 mpg mixed driving 22~23 city only. Two weeks ago he went
 from Baton Rouge to Jeff City, Mizzery. Averaged 31~32 on the road 
 with it. He was well pleased with the performance and
 the power the little diesel had. I asked him if he had to do over 
 again if he would buy it or another brand with a gasser.
 His answer was Hell Yes I'd buy it again in a heart beat.

But it sure would be nice to be able to afford to swap it about the time 
that the warranty expired.
Repairing vehicles these days tends to be pretty expensive and diesel 
just seems to makes it worse.
These might turn out to be very good engines or they might not. Only 
time will tell.

Randy

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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks

2014-09-02 Thread Jon Agne via Mercedes

Ok Gary,

I need price on Bilstein comfort/OEM style shocks for ’67 250S.  Also need 
price on transmission cooling hose, W0133-1630042.

Thanks,

Jon


On Sep 2, 2014, at 11:24 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

 many here only love the chinee knockoff of the hey buddy swindle.  you
 can lead a horse to water, but if the beast decides to drown himself, what
 can you do?
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 11:07 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I think a guy named Jabba sells them too, real cheepcheep and not chinee
 knockoffs.
 
 --R
 
 
 
 On 9/2/14 10:56 AM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
 
 you can't go wrong with bilstein comfort/standard shocks in any case, so
 they are probably the way to go for most people.
 
 
 On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Agreed... My buddy put them in his 124 and Regretted it.  He thought the
 car was too soft and wanted it to ride like his modern BMW.
 
 In the end, the comfort shocks are much Stiffer than worn out originals.
  You'll be satisfied.
 
 Jaime
 
 
 On Tuesday, September 2, 2014, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I put a set on the front of my former 1982 300SD and I regretted it
 every
 time I drove the car.
 
 I would advise against using the HDs under just about any circumstance.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On Sep 2, 2014, at 12:01 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com javascript:; wrote:
 
 Feeling every pavement crack in your kidneys gets old pretty quick on
 
 the interstate.
 
 Peter
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 water leaks

Limited experience, only my wagon leaks at the rear lift gate, I blame rust
behind the tail lights and bad collision damage repair.

Check your battery area for rust.  Crappy windshield installation would
also do it, rusting windshield frame.  Not fun to repair.

Any crack in your windshield?  If you run a ball point pen along the crack,
and the pen never catches in a divot left by a stone impact, then more than
likely the crack is due to frame rust putting uneven pressure on the glass

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Classic car stock

2014-09-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

The voice guru on my LG Optimus is utterly astounding. I can ask any
question, usually in 3 words or less, and the first hit is usually right
on the mark.

On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:36 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

What happens when they go out of business?
Actually I don't see that happening, I see somebody else buying them for
patents and killing the name.

Don't get me wrong I liked my Blackberry, it was a great phone at a time
when the iPhone 3 was a really sucky phone. My BB was a rotten pocket
computer but it was an excellent phone.

Today the new Blackberry is just another faceless phone in a world of
faceless phones. Yawn. When it came out it was something great. I could FLY
on my BB keyboard...

-Curt

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Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Classic car stock

‎Original Message
From: Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 8:12

big snip
‎
image only lasts for awhile, look at Blackberry.

My BlackBerry is simply awesome. Stop reading what the reviews say and try
one. Very intuitive. Very fast. Removable battery. 64GB micro SD card. 2GB
RAM, 16GB internal memory. The ability to run Android apps. The next
version of os is supposed to have amazon app store included. Top notch
security.

http://press.blackberry.com/press/2014/blackberry-first-to-receive-coveted-full-operational-capability-.html

Tell that to the celebrities that got their pictures stolen when icloud
got hacked.

At the time I got this, I was contemplating another iPhone. I made the
right choice.

Rick
Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Cell Phone Security was Re: Classic car stock

2014-09-02 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

I am going to post the message Chinese hackers are poopyheads on the
cloud.  When the hacker gangs break into my vault and read my message their
heads will explode.  Serves them right!



On Mon, Sep 1, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead.Shehan
 Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.

  Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 18:38:04 -0700
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  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Cell Phone Security was Re:  Classic car stock
  From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 
  I have no sympathy for any idiot that puts anything in the cloud and
 considers it secure. As soon as you share anything with anybody else you
 have to assume the Chinese hackers have it.
 
  -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Bilstein Shocks

2014-09-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Agreed... My buddy put them in his 124 and Regretted it.  He thought the
car was too soft and wanted it to ride like his modern BMW.


Back in the day, it was a pain sourcing Bilsteins for Saab 99s.
Comfort didn't seem to be available, all the aftermarket sources seemed to carry 
HD, which destroyed the ride. The advertisers in Road  Track sold them for 
about $40, FLAPS around $60.
There were stiffer shocks that came on the EMS and Turbo models. They were 
exactly what you wanted for a sporty Saab. From the local Saab dealer they were 
between $400-500 for a set of four (in 1985 dollars!). I knew one guy who had a 
'76 or '77 Wagonback that he personalized. He put the EMS shocks on it, a 
fiberglass replica of the EMS front spoiler, and I think he might have even put 
an EMS steering rack in it but it had the normal GL steering wheel. He put the 
mail order Bilsteins on it at first but couldn't stand the ride.


Mitch.

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[MBZ] vintage precision scale

vintage precision scale
i.e. max 200g 0.1g accuracy made in usa
for me? - measure ground coffee but i bet the market sells these for contraband.
i read that some designs have caps that fail?
are there other failure modes?

does anyone use vintage scale to recommend?
anyone want to sell decent scale/balance?
i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$.
thanks.
mao

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[MBZ] Fw: vintage precision scale

2014-09-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

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[MBZ] Fw: vintage precision scale

2014-09-02 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Original Message  
From: Mountain Man via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 4:35 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Reply To: Mountain Man
Subject: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

does anyone use vintage scale to recommend?
anyone want to sell decent scale/balance?
i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$.

Here.  ‎Pick one. Not vintage. But they work. You looking for art, or function? 

http://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result?q=Scales

Use this to purchase. 

http://www.dealsoff.com/images/harbor-freight-coupons-0913.png

Rick 
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Re: [MBZ] 124 water leaks

2014-09-02 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes

More likely a sunroof drain.  The windshield is glued in, they rarely  
leak unless the body is bent or there is rust starting.


Check both front and rear -- the rear drain is in the C pillar.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Classic car stock


3 words or fewer

your a looser

--R

On 9/2/14 4:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The voice guru on my LG Optimus is utterly astounding.  I can ask any
question, usually in , and the first hit is usually right
on the mark.



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Re: [MBZ] Fw: vintage precision scale

Rick wrote:
 Here.  ‎Pick one. Not vintage. But they work. You looking for art, or 
 function?


Function and art, primarily not china.
I gotta gain an argument about china.  I heard mention of a report on
a radio show that was going to address the issue of avoiding china.
After 25 years not china, I begin to wonder.  But I am still there -
not china.  All old good names are all china, like Ohaus.  But vintage
stuff is USA,
so I search for vintage.
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Classic car stock

Curt wrote:
 The one that gets me is that the gurus say the market is rational because 
 people are rational.

 Apparently the gurus haven't met that many people...

I usually try to entertain myself a bit by wasting time with
telemarketers.  Simply amazing!  They want my cc for a $1 fee to mail
me some gifts, so I give them fake name, cc, address.  I am amazed
that they stay in business with offshore openers then local closers
for idiot freebies.  Who in their right mind gives cc info to
telemarketer from mumbai or manila?
Rational is not a word about Amerikans today.  The news is evidence
#1.  One side sez bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iraq, the other side sez
stay home.  Yeah, that is functional and rational - N O T ! !
Then we complain about education.  Waaay too much coming out this past
few weeks about education cheats and stealing and non-rational
processes in education.  Amerika the great is burning for sure.  If
you want education as always, tutoring is best, i.e. home school as it
is known these days.
All your base are belong to us!!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Cell Phone Security was Re: Classic car stock

Andrew wrote:
 I am going to post the message Chinese hackers are poopyheads


All your base are belong to us!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

2014-09-02 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:


does anyone use vintage scale to recommend?
anyone want to sell decent scale/balance?
i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$.
thanks.


I always liked the 2610 gram triple beam Ohaus. (need accessory weights to go 
over 610g)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OHAUS-Triple-Beam-Balance-Ink-Scale-/121421705001?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c454c2f29


It pivots on what look to be agate bearings.
The factory shipping carton held the pan up on a styrofoam platform IIRC so that 
the bearings didn't get hammered. If I bought a used one to have shipped to me, 
I'd make them put pieces of rubber hose or something over the steel triangles 
that sit on the stone bearings.


Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

2014-09-02 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

Many years back I found an Ohaus triple beam in a local thrift shop for
about $15.  Needless to say I glommed it.  As a former Chem major and lab
tech I have an obsession for precision measuring instruments.  Yet most of
my weighing is done on a classic vintage Soehnle kitchen scale; most
recently used for weighing flour for the breadmaker and fish and dry cure
for smoking.  It's plenty accurate for those uses, and the tare function is
perfect for adding different types of flour right into the breadmaker can.

Greg

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Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

 does anyone use vintage scale to recommend?
 anyone want to sell decent scale/balance?
 i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$.
 thanks.

I always liked the 2610 gram triple beam Ohaus. (need accessory weights to
go over 610g)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OHAUS-Triple-Beam-Balance-Ink-Scale-/121421705001?pt
=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c454c2f29


It pivots on what look to be agate bearings.
The factory shipping carton held the pan up on a styrofoam platform IIRC so
that 
the bearings didn't get hammered. If I bought a used one to have shipped to
me, 
I'd make them put pieces of rubber hose or something over the steel
triangles 
that sit on the stone bearings.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel

Speaking of Cummins powered utes 
http://fotonmotors.com.au/foton/default.asp?gclid=CIGKs5SDxMACFQF9vQod82MASA

I can see a lot tight fisted farmers getting these.

Hendrik
who doesn't have a Cummins engine

On 03/09/14 01:15, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Having driven one I am too, its not a refined engine, more like my 240D (with 
much more power of course) than my TDI. That said I haven't driven any of the 
competition to compare.

-Curt



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Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2014 11:37 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Dodge V6 diesel
  


I am amazed at how much old junky dodges with cummins sells for around here.




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Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

2014-09-02 Thread Archer75--- via Mercedes


http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=Torbal+Torsion+Balance+Model+PL+2+Laboratory+2KG+Scale+Balance

On 9/2/2014 5:35 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

vintage precision scale
i.e. max 200g 0.1g accuracy made in usa
for me? - measure ground coffee but i bet the market sells these for contraband.
i read that some designs have caps that fail?
are there other failure modes?

does anyone use vintage scale to recommend?
anyone want to sell decent scale/balance?
i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$.
thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Classic car lock, stock and mac


Well yeah, you may be right, style without substance only gets you so far.
It seems that there are people trying to make viruses for macs 
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/apple-drops-claim-that-macs-dont-get-viruses-20120703-21ei4.html

The hack a celeb nude from the cloud thingy won't help.

One of the key selling points used to be that a mac is easier and safer 
to use than windows, it perhaps may be still easier than windows (I 
haven't kept up with windows much but son has winders on his school 
lapdog and seems to get along alright with it) but I do know we had a 
major crash on our mac book pro, which needed the whole operating system 
to be reinstalled, this brought back memories of using windows and how 
every know and then it spat the dummy and needed a clean install.


Plus they wanted to charge us to get iphoto back on the mac, which I 
managed to get off our original installation CD but the issue still 
remains that apple was being greedy there and before you say ooh but 
you should not expect to get a program for free well we paid for it 
when we bought the mac originally and had we not chosen the pro with a 
CD drive, we may well have been at the mercy of apple and the AU$19 
charge for iphoto 
https://itunes.apple.com/au/app/iphoto/id408981381?mt=12 not too mention 
how the heck I would have recovered the OS without a CD. I tried all the 
inbuilt recovery things but only a clean install got it to work again.


It just seems that without Jobs being the figurehead, apple is starting 
to be exposed to be just like windows, only more expensive, which will 
drive a lot of folk to android.

That image of being hip because you got a mac has pretty much gone.
Daimler found that out too, relying on past glories does not guarantee 
future success and maybe it's apples turn to go through a bit of a 
slump, again but the question is do they have the visionaries to pull 
them out of the slump?
Slashing the prices of their products is not the answer I think, as it 
will expose them for the overcharging they have been doing for years.



Hendrik
who is sending this via an old penguin powered desktop machine

On 02/09/14 10:41, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Apple is in trouble. They've basically given the professional world the finger 
with the new MacPro, their phones are twice the money for no added features and 
their last tablet release sucked, it had less resolution than a Kindle for 50% 
more money. The world is starting to wake up. They've got to actually do 
something if they want to stay on top, image only lasts for awhile, look at 
Blackberry.

-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

So you want a vintage scale, made in the US of A, less than 200g
capacity, .1g accuracy(? for coffee) and willing to pay only $?
This the sort of thing
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1960s-R-47-PELOUZE-PRECISION-METRIC-GRAM-BALANCE-SCALE-w-Brass-Weights-/161406999100?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item25949b5a3chttp://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1960s-R-47-PELOUZE-PRECISION-METRIC-GRAM-BALANCE-SCALE-w-Brass-Weights-/181513000684?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2a430496ec
Perhaps you could try trash and treasure markets? If such a thing exists
in your neck of the woods.

On 03/09/14 12:31, Archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/sis.html?_nkw=Torbal+Torsion+Balance+Model+PL+2+Laboratory+2KG+Scale+Balance

On 9/2/2014 5:35 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

vintage precision scale
i.e. max 200g 0.1g accuracy made in usa
for me? - measure ground coffee but i bet the market sells these for
contraband.

i read that some designs have caps that fail?
are there other failure modes?

does anyone use vintage scale to recommend?
anyone want to sell decent scale/balance?
i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$.
thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Old cop car CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon


Does the lighter work on them?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yil9wlfa0yo

Hendrik
whose lighter sort of works

On 02/09/14 02:28, clay via Mercedes wrote:

Old cop cruisers are out of fashion in the taxi trade, so auction prices are in 
the pits.  You can snag a good example for under $2k.  The 2007-2011 models 
maybe hit 3k

clay



On Aug 31, 2014, at 5:05 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:


My son and I both have Crown Vics.  His is a 97 and mine a 95.  They are
good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB.  Expect mid 20s in
MPG for those vintages.  The engineering is good and the power adequate.
Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control.  Some years had
some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was
replaced with the alloy one.  Good engine longevity.  And, despite scary
reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety.  When we
bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron.

Greg



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