Re: [MBZ] FW: '84 300D GPR
Ah, Ok the issue here isn't the GP relay at all most likely. The glow plug system and the starter are mostly independent. One will function if the other is faulty, and neither can bring the other one down. Your problem is, in order of likleyhood: 1. Bad ground at the Battery, chassis connection, or either end of the ground strap to the engine block 2. Failing starter solenoid (tap lightly with a hammer to see if it helps) 3. Failing ignition switch (unlikely, but could no longer pass enough current to the starter solenoid). If its really an issue of the battery going dead, then the GP relay could still be at fault. But you'd know this because you'd have to charge the battery to get the car to start again. Jaime On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 6:21 PM, G. M. Brown via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Latest on '84 300D GPR: From: g_010...@hotmail.com To: jaime...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] '84 300D GPR Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:55:10 -0500 Jaime, As per my previous note, the glow plug lite in the dash lites up OK when the key is turned to the ON/Start position but, when the condition occurs when it doesn't start, there's only a slight click and a signal from the starter as if the battery was almost dead . . . not enough power to turn the starter enough to start the car. Note, a new glow plug fuse was installed in March. What I don't understand is that the car wouldn't start yesterday, but started OK today prior to my doing anything to it. Thanx. Glenn Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 13:48:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 300D GPR From: jaime...@gmail.com To: g_010...@hotmail.com Hi Glenn, This is why information from the internet isn't always so reliable ;-) Funny... I have the same issue with my 79 300SD. I take apart the relay once a year to clean it up with deoxit and some paper towels. One of these days I'll break down and buy a new one, but until then... One thing you should be weary of is the fuse. It might look good, but not be able to support the 50+amps when the plugs are glowing. I've seen them when they look ok, then break in two when you remove them a fiddle with them a bit. What exactly is the problem when it doesn't work? No light and no glow? Or no light with glow? If I remember correctly it is a failure mode for the light to not come on, but still provide power to the plugs if there is one or more thats failed. Good luck,Jaime On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Jaime, Prior to going out to the garage to see what else I could do about this, I found the following from a guy on the PeachParts site: Yes, you can pull it apart and clean the board/resolder the components. If it's stuck on just pull the bucket off, removing a screw in each of the four corners. Check the solenoid (the thing that moves) and it's contacts. Sometimes water will seep in and corrode on the contacts. They should be smooth. If they're not use a piece of sandpaper or a really fine file to remove any built up corrosion. If that doesn't work, just get another one. Unless you want to spend the time testing and resoldering each component. Today's episode: 1. The car started OK prior to doing anything. 2. The glow plug lite in the dash lites up OK when the key is turned to the ON/Start position. 3. There's continuity between the two sides of the glow plug fuse. 4. There's power to each side of the glow plug fuse when the key is turned to the ON/Start position. 5. For grins, I DeOxit'd the female pin plugs to the glow plug relay box. 6. The car started OK after messin' around as well. If the bloody thing misbehaves on my attempt to go to church tomorrow, I'm not sure what else I can do. Glenn Brevard, NC Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:42:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 300D GPR From: jaime...@gmail.com To: g_010...@hotmail.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com I think the problem is that you sanded the contacts. Its like ignition points, if you sand off the surface coating then the likelyhood that they corrode and fail again are much higher. Jaime On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:01 PM, G. M. Brown via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a buzzing problem upon starting attempt with the GPR in my '84 300D back in March, took it apart resoldered the PCB, lightly sanded the contact points, and cleaned the external pin connections and it's been OK till the other day when all I would get was a click when attempting to start and it sounded like the battery was dead. I checked the battery voltage and it's fine, so I took the GPR apart again, cleaned things up, lightly sanded the contact points, and DeOxit'd the contact points and external pins and the car started fine for one day, but it was back to the click and sounding like the battery is dead. I remembered someone indicating back in March that moisture can get into the GPR box, but I sealed the edges w/ RTV the other day. I'll dig into it again
Re: [MBZ] FW: '84 300D GPR
Check the starter solenoid wire on the firewall, it's a purple wire going to a jumper block below the battery if I remember correctly. It's common for the connection to corrode, giving you intermittent starter operation. Loose engine ground and ignition switch are the two common things between glow plugs and starter. Also make sure the main bus line from the positive cable at the starter is actually attached. It slips up into the cable cover when the cable is removed, and sometimes doesn't get re-installed as a result. Usually causes all sorts of other electrical gremlins though, as it' supplies the power to the fuse box and keyswitch. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sat morning fun
When I left Texas I had an 87 Blazer that was getting almost rusted out. I had an old guy build an engine for me and put it in the truck a few years before. I pulled the engine and tranny and gave the hulk to a guy. Not sure what I would ever do with it but the engine was somewhat pricey and ran well, so figured at some point it would come in handy for something, like when I'm 85 and need another project. Looking back on it, I should have kept the truck and brought it here to SC as there is no inspection, emissions, or anything else to comply with. I could have done some welding on the body and put a carb or new EFI on the engine (it had the original TBFI set up which was not particularly good) to get more power and better running, and have the truck, but I guess I really did not need it for anything other than a project, of which I have plenty. I did like that truck though, it was very agricultural and the 4WD would crawl up the side of the house. --R On 12/6/14 8:14 PM, Tim Crone wrote: On Dec 6, 2014 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got a built-up 350 in the garage, that would work. Wait, what? Did you lose a car? Forgive me if I'm way behind. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] FW: '84 300D GPR
Possibly useful random data: My W115 300D does an odd thing whereby, after preglow, turning the ignition switch to the start position occasionally has no effect at all on the starter. No click, nothing. I think it is the ground path to the ignition switch, because a) it is more frequent when everything is warm/hot, an b) turning off the the key and waiting a few seconds, then turning straight through to start position usually works. The longer you wait between stopping glowing and starting again the better the chances it will work. Since there's no relationship between glowing and starting on a W115 apart from the ignition switch (and harness, of course) I suspect the switch. All of this to say: you could have a switch issue as well. The other thing that happened on my 300D is the solenoid connection at the starter came loose, with obvious effect. Good luck! On Dec 7, 2014, at 04:00, mercedes-requ...@okiebenz.com wrote: Message: 11 Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2014 05:53:40 -0500 From: Jaime Kopchinski To: G. M. Brown, Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] FW: '84 300D GPR Ah, Ok the issue here isn't the GP relay at all most likely. The glow plug system and the starter are mostly independent. One will function if the other is faulty, and neither can bring the other one down. Your problem is, in order of likleyhood: 1. Bad ground at the Battery, chassis connection, or either end of the ground strap to the engine block 2. Failing starter solenoid (tap lightly with a hammer to see if it helps) 3. Failing ignition switch (unlikely, but could no longer pass enough current to the starter solenoid). If its really an issue of the battery going dead, then the GP relay could still be at fault. But you'd know this because you'd have to charge the battery to get the car to start again. Jaime ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sat morning fun
And you could have given Dimitri a chance to come down and weld away all the rusty spots. On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 11:40 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: When I left Texas I had an 87 Blazer that was getting almost rusted out. I had an old guy build an engine for me and put it in the truck a few years before. I pulled the engine and tranny and gave the hulk to a guy. Not sure what I would ever do with it but the engine was somewhat pricey and ran well, so figured at some point it would come in handy for something, like when I'm 85 and need another project. Looking back on it, I should have kept the truck and brought it here to SC as there is no inspection, emissions, or anything else to comply with. I could have done some welding on the body and put a carb or new EFI on the engine (it had the original TBFI set up which was not particularly good) to get more power and better running, and have the truck, but I guess I really did not need it for anything other than a project, of which I have plenty. I did like that truck though, it was very agricultural and the 4WD would crawl up the side of the house. --R On 12/6/14 8:14 PM, Tim Crone wrote: On Dec 6, 2014 12:16 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I got a built-up 350 in the garage, that would work. Wait, what? Did you lose a car? Forgive me if I'm way behind. Best, Tim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
I have internet from the cable company, but no cable tv. Since the cable company can run tv and internet over the same cable in the house, is there a way I can take a coax from the antenna, and put that in the coax with the internet? I assume this would be in the cable junction box attached to the outside of the house or after the coax comes out of the junction box. If this can be done, it would simplify trying to get a second TV running. The new tv is running on a coax that I ran directly to the tv from the antenna. There is a cable coax and the antenna coax at that tv, so that might be a place to connect the two without adding another coathanger antenna. I am planning to put a coathanger antenna outside to run the second tv, but I think it is possible to add an amplifier to the coax from the existing attic antenna and then feed the whole cable system. We installed coax over the whole house in 2001 (along with a lot of cat 5 so ethernet is available almost anywhere in the house.) I have tried running multiple coax from one MAKE.com antenna, but that does not work. I assume that if a signal amp was added at the first coax joint, then it may be possible to run multiple tv sets from one MAKE coathanger antenna. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
Why not use the cat 5 (or wireless) for your internet, and use the cable for the OTA TV signal? Coax cable with internet gets converted at a modem, no? Locate the modem as close to the entry point to the house as possible, break the coax at that point, run new coax from outside antenna to break point, amplify and send on to rest of house. At the cable modem, connect either ethernet router or wireless router (or both). Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Dec 7, 2014 1:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have internet from the cable company, but no cable tv. Since the cable company can run tv and internet over the same cable in the house, is there a way I can take a coax from the antenna, and put that in the coax with the internet? I assume this would be in the cable junction box attached to the outside of the house or after the coax comes out of the junction box. If this can be done, it would simplify trying to get a second TV running. The new tv is running on a coax that I ran directly to the tv from the antenna. There is a cable coax and the antenna coax at that tv, so that might be a place to connect the two without adding another coathanger antenna. I am planning to put a coathanger antenna outside to run the second tv, but I think it is possible to add an amplifier to the coax from the existing attic antenna and then feed the whole cable system. We installed coax over the whole house in 2001 (along with a lot of cat 5 so ethernet is available almost anywhere in the house.) I have tried running multiple coax from one MAKE.com antenna, but that does not work. I assume that if a signal amp was added at the first coax joint, then it may be possible to run multiple tv sets from one MAKE coathanger antenna. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
The coax enters at one end of the house, and the cable modem is at the other end. However, it is possible to run a new coax cable from the cable junction box to the modem. I'd have to run another cat 5 across the house too, and get another ethernet switch. And then I'd have to get a signal amp and run it also. Why not use the cat 5 (or wireless) for your internet, and use the cable for the OTA TV signal? Coax cable with internet gets converted at a modem, no? Locate the modem as close to the entry point to the house as possible, break the coax at that point, run new coax from outside antenna to break point, amplify and send on to rest of house. At the cable modem, connect either ethernet router or wireless router (or both). Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Dec 7, 2014 1:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have internet from the cable company, but no cable tv. Since the cable company can run tv and internet over the same cable in the house, is there a way I can take a coax from the antenna, and put that in the coax with the internet? I assume this would be in the cable junction box attached to the outside of the house or after the coax comes out of the junction box. If this can be done, it would simplify trying to get a second TV running. The new tv is running on a coax that I ran directly to the tv from the antenna. There is a cable coax and the antenna coax at that tv, so that might be a place to connect the two without adding another coathanger antenna. I am planning to put a coathanger antenna outside to run the second tv, but I think it is possible to add an amplifier to the coax from the existing attic antenna and then feed the whole cable system. We installed coax over the whole house in 2001 (along with a lot of cat 5 so ethernet is available almost anywhere in the house.) I have tried running multiple coax from one MAKE.com antenna, but that does not work. I assume that if a signal amp was added at the first coax joint, then it may be possible to run multiple tv sets from one MAKE coathanger antenna. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
I don't think that would work -- you would probably bugger up whatever the cableco is running over the coax, so you will need to separate the cableco stuff from the antenna stuff. --R On 12/7/14 2:19 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Why not use the cat 5 (or wireless) for your internet, and use the cable for the OTA TV signal? Coax cable with internet gets converted at a modem, no? Locate the modem as close to the entry point to the house as possible, break the coax at that point, run new coax from outside antenna to break point, amplify and send on to rest of house. At the cable modem, connect either ethernet router or wireless router (or both). Max Dillon, Charleston SC On Dec 7, 2014 1:06 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have internet from the cable company, but no cable tv. Since the cable company can run tv and internet over the same cable in the house, is there a way I can take a coax from the antenna, and put that in the coax with the internet? I assume this would be in the cable junction box attached to the outside of the house or after the coax comes out of the junction box. If this can be done, it would simplify trying to get a second TV running. The new tv is running on a coax that I ran directly to the tv from the antenna. There is a cable coax and the antenna coax at that tv, so that might be a place to connect the two without adding another coathanger antenna. I am planning to put a coathanger antenna outside to run the second tv, but I think it is possible to add an amplifier to the coax from the existing attic antenna and then feed the whole cable system. We installed coax over the whole house in 2001 (along with a lot of cat 5 so ethernet is available almost anywhere in the house.) I have tried running multiple coax from one MAKE.com antenna, but that does not work. I assume that if a signal amp was added at the first coax joint, then it may be possible to run multiple tv sets from one MAKE coathanger antenna. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fw: OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - MOVING IN THE BUFF
Wilton, I think that not only has the statute of limitations expired on the windshield, the truck itself has expired (a lg time ago) ;-) Regards, Addison From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com Subject: [MBZ] Fw: OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - MOVING IN THE BUFF Date: December 6, 2014 2:50:31 PM PST To: mercedes list mercedes@okiebenz.com BTW, Addison, has the statute of limitations expired on that windshield? Wilton ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
I don't think that would work -- you would probably bugger up whatever the cableco is running over the coax, so you will need to separate the cableco stuff from the antenna stuff. --R Ok thanks. I thought maybe there was a filter that could be used at the demark to keep the antenna off the cableco coax, but still feed it within the house. Max's suggestion may be the best. The reservation I have about that is that what I found before was that if the cable was not continuous from the antenna to the tv, the signal was lost. Even one splitter or coupling was enough to lose the signal. I am not sure a signal amp would prevent that with the digital signal. Back in the flat cable days, an antenna signal amp/splitter, and I could run flat cable all over the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Fw: OT - Another non-political B-52 tale - MOVING IN THE BUFF
Great story, Wilton! I think, given my druthers, I'd rather see BUFFs hauling furniture than fissionables, but it IS an imperfect world, alas. Once again, thanks to you and all servicemen past and present! (raises a glass) -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
I've got sort of a similar situation with my new addition. I ran coax to the bedroom and kitchen to hook up a new antenna I will put up, and ran it sorta where the drop from the antenna will be. I was going to put in a 2 or 3-way distribution with an amp to feed the new stuff of the antenna and maybe another bedroom. I'll have to study on that, or if you figure it out let me know. I don't have cable or sat, but did get Uverse installed for the internet and phone, they keep trying to get me to sign up for TV but I have no interest in it with Netflix and Amazon Prime over wi-fi and the OTA TV. --R On 12/7/14 2:58 PM, Curly McLain wrote: I don't think that would work -- you would probably bugger up whatever the cableco is running over the coax, so you will need to separate the cableco stuff from the antenna stuff. --R Ok thanks. I thought maybe there was a filter that could be used at the demark to keep the antenna off the cableco coax, but still feed it within the house. Max's suggestion may be the best. The reservation I have about that is that what I found before was that if the cable was not continuous from the antenna to the tv, the signal was lost. Even one splitter or coupling was enough to lose the signal. I am not sure a signal amp would prevent that with the digital signal. Back in the flat cable days, an antenna signal amp/splitter, and I could run flat cable all over the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st
Larry I will refrain from another of my M1 ATF saved my life Testimonials but since i have the same car here is my experience. It had 129k on it when i bought it 9 years ago. Shifted a lttle rough with delays. Put M1 ATF in it then changed it 90k miles later to another fill of M1. Now has 243k shifts like new on orig tranny. I do drive it for 2 long commutes but if traffic is bad then it is stop go. YMMV. Dwight. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] way OT - fence charger repair
Gentlemen, thank you for your responses! You are educating an old farmer, which has to be a good thing. No, the fuse does not blow when the mystery part is not installed. It is in series with the the 110 volt hot line to the transformer. I tried connecting the line from the fuse straight to the transformer - the charger clicked a couple times and then quit. (When working right it clicks about every second when it sends a pulse.) The fuse is still good. My meter shows 116 volts going to the transformer. So I guess something else is wrong. No new burned things evident. My reading on the farming/fencing sites suggests the five years I have got out of this machine is about par. I think I will just get another and keep this one for parts. I am inclined toward one of the Zareba models sold locally by Tractor Supply. They have a decent reputation and will provide schematics and parts to regular people. Thanks again. Y'all are still welcome to beer and sweetcorn next summer. And I almost forgot to mention ramps! You need to come by in the first two weeks of April for them! 4WD a good idea at that time of year. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV Cato suggested that women would live long, healthy lives if they washed their genitals in the urine of a cabbage eater. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
Rich, I saw the cheapest 75 to 300 ohm antenna converters on fleabay are $4. Lowes has them for $4 with no wait. Coax, however is a different story. $15 for 50' at lowes, and under 8 bucks on fleabay. Amp $20 at lowes. $17 for the lease expensive 4 output (Same) on fleabay. not much saving there. My plan is to cut the coax in the basement near where it comes in comes in. The end going outside will get hooked to the modem in the new location. The other end will get hooked to the antenna coming in via an amp.Run a cat 5 from the existing switch there to the switch/wireless router across the house and leave it where it is in what we used to use as a computer room. I put the antenna up today, and tried hooking it to the new tv. Got most of the same channels. Probably need to aim the antenna to get all stations the same. Was about ready to bore the hole through the wall when it got dark and started to rain. So that will have to wait. I've got sort of a similar situation with my new addition. I ran coax to the bedroom and kitchen to hook up a new antenna I will put up, and ran it sorta where the drop from the antenna will be. I was going to put in a 2 or 3-way distribution with an amp to feed the new stuff of the antenna and maybe another bedroom. I'll have to study on that, or if you figure it out let me know. I don't have cable or sat, but did get Uverse installed for the internet and phone, they keep trying to get me to sign up for TV but I have no interest in it with Netflix and Amazon Prime over wi-fi and the OTA TV. --R On 12/7/14 2:58 PM, Curly McLain wrote: I don't think that would work -- you would probably bugger up whatever the cableco is running over the coax, so you will need to separate the cableco stuff from the antenna stuff. --R Ok thanks. I thought maybe there was a filter that could be used at the demark to keep the antenna off the cableco coax, but still feed it within the house. Max's suggestion may be the best. The reservation I have about that is that what I found before was that if the cable was not continuous from the antenna to the tv, the signal was lost. Even one splitter or coupling was enough to lose the signal. I am not sure a signal amp would prevent that with the digital signal. Back in the flat cable days, an antenna signal amp/splitter, and I could run flat cable all over the house. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] way OT - fence charger repair
What kind of fence (how high) do you electrify that keeps the deer out of the corn? Around here they laugh as they jump over the fences. Do you electrify the entire fence or just the top? On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 5:41 PM, David Kristin Gilmore via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: My reading on the farming/fencing sites suggests the five years I have got out of this machine is about par. I think I will just get another and keep this one for parts. I am inclined toward one of the Zareba models sold locally by Tractor Supply. They have a decent reputation and will provide schematics and parts to regular people. Thanks again. Y'all are still welcome to beer and sweetcorn next summer. And I almost forgot to mention ramps! You need to come by in the first two weeks of April for them! 4WD a good idea at that time of year. Dave Gilmore, Cameron WV -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
Cable company here (Cox) and ATT U-verse around here puts a filter on the the line that runs into the house if you don't subscribe to TV service. This is supposed to block the TV signal. I have two friends that have Cox internet and no tv service. One gets Basic TV thru his the other gets most of the expanded basic channels on his. The one business client that I have that has U-Verse can't get any tv channels. My advice is to take the coax that goes to your modem and hook it up to a tv set and see if you get any stations. This will save you the trouble of cutting the inbound cable ans doing all the wiring and find out that the tv signal is blocked. BTW don't get the bright idea of going into the de-mark box and removing the filter unless up want to pay a healthy fine from the cable company for theft of services. Russ W. On Sun,12/7/14 12:06, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: I have internet from the cable company, but no cable tv. Since the cable company can run tv and internet over the same cable in the house, is there a way I can take a coax from the antenna, and put that in the coax with the internet? I assume this would be in the cable junction box attached to the outside of the house or after the coax comes out of the junction box. If this can be done, it would simplify trying to get a second TV running. The new tv is running on a coax that I ran directly to the tv from the antenna. There is a cable coax and the antenna coax at that tv, so that might be a place to connect the two without adding another coathanger antenna. I am planning to put a coathanger antenna outside to run the second tv, but I think it is possible to add an amplifier to the coax from the existing attic antenna and then feed the whole cable system. We installed coax over the whole house in 2001 (along with a lot of cat 5 so ethernet is available almost anywhere in the house.) I have tried running multiple coax from one MAKE.com antenna, but that does not work. I assume that if a signal amp was added at the first coax joint, then it may be possible to run multiple tv sets from one MAKE coathanger antenna. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2015.0.5577 / Virus Database: 4235/8696 - Release Date: 12/07/14 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question
I am right between Chicago and South Bend. I need two antennas to receive broadcasts from both cities. Can I use a coax splitter as a combiner? I have looked for a combiner and I can't seem to find one. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
Curly wrote: I have internet from the cable company, but no cable tv. Since the cable company can run tv and internet over the same cable in the house, is there a way I can take a coax from the antenna, and put that in the coax with the internet? Technically - yes. Practically - probably not. We installed coax over the whole house in 2001 (along with a lot of cat 5 so ethernet is available almost anywhere in the house.) Is all that coax connected to a distribution system - Amps/splitters/taps/etc? If so, you should be able to feed the antenna into the input of the distribution and have it show up everywhere. Or does it at least all home run to/from one location? If so, you could still feed the antenna to this hub location but only hook up the lines you are using. I have tried running multiple coax from one MAKE.com antenna, but that does not work. The reservation I have about that is that what I found before was that if the cable was not continuous from the antenna to the tv, the signal was lost. Even one splitter or coupling was enough to lose the signal. I am not sure a signal amp would prevent that with the digital signal. That doesn't make sense... A connector shouldn't degrade the signal _that_ much. A splitter should decrease the signal strength at the TV by 3 dB - which isn't very much. A small amp is typically 7-12 dB which should be more than enough to compensate for the splitter losses. Oh - and the best place for the amp is as close to the antenna as you can practically put it. Back in the flat cable days, an antenna signal amp/splitter, and I could run flat cable all over the house. That can be done with coax too. Coax has higher loss per foot than twin-lead - but coax is much less susceptible losses caused by nearby metal. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question
Rick wrote: I am right between Chicago and South Bend. I need two antennas to receive broadcasts from both cities. Can I use a coax splitter as a combiner? I have looked for a combiner and I can't seem to find one. No. If there are no channel overlaps, it seems might work. From a electron point of view, a splitter is also a combiner. But I know that if I wanted to add one channel to an existing stream it requires a channel inserter to work right. Just a splitter/combiner won't do. But splitters are cheap - so you could try it anyway. A switch - or an antenna rotor will fix you up. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Sat morning fun
Thanks Fred- I'll find some! I also want to be sure I'm not overlooking the obvious - i.e., any device that operates a kick-down function will do so for _any _up-shift and not just a 1-2 shift, right? Thx again, LarryT 91 300D On 12/6/2014 10:58 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote: Rich.Me too!I visited Rudesheim an Rhein in 1961 as a student, fond memories of Halgarten's hospitality. Jeez, but I'm getting olde. Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred. Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:49:41 -0500 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sat morning fun From: mercedes@okiebenz.com I want this. Badly. I don't know why but I want it. Badly. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question
I have a similar situation. to get the stations available, I need 2 antennas aimed in different directions. I suspect if we just hook the two antenna together with 300 ohm flat cable, it will work. I am right between Chicago and South Bend. I need two antennas to receive broadcasts from both cities. Can I use a coax splitter as a combiner? I have looked for a combiner and I can't seem to find one. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: OTA TV Question
There are such things, look on Amazon. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Dec 7, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I have a similar situation. to get the stations available, I need 2 antennas aimed in different directions. I suspect if we just hook the two antenna together with 300 ohm flat cable, it will work. I am right between Chicago and South Bend. I need two antennas to receive broadcasts from both cities. Can I use a coax splitter as a combiner? I have looked for a combiner and I can't seem to find one. Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Nother OT TV question (signal)
Curly wrote: I saw the cheapest 75 to 300 ohm antenna converters on fleabay are $4. Lowes has them for $4 with no wait. Coax, however is a different story. $15 for 50' at lowes, and under 8 bucks on fleabay. Amp $20 at lowes. $17 for the lease expensive 4 output (Same) on fleabay. not much saving there. Take a look at MCM. Product is usually reasonable, service has been good, prices are decent. http://mcmelectronics.com http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/30-2570 http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/30-2167 http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/33-4035 http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/24-14605 http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/33-2187 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
