Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer Case Recommendations
Just replace the power supply in the current case - I think Craig, or someone else on the list recommended a Seatronic when I had to upgrade mine due to a new graphics card. It is very well made. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eldest son’s PC power supply cacked. Looking for a recommendation for a good quality tower case/enclosure with a decent power supply. He games, but doesn’t do really intense stuff. He’s currently running an Asus ATX MB with an i5 Intel processor and a single video card, one hard drive, one optical. All of his stuff will just be swapped over, no new stuff going in at this point. I like CoolerMaster myself, but am open to suggestions. I want to avoid cheap Chinee stuff with edges that haven’t been deburred, etc. Thanks, Dan -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
I hate my local dealerships. You are very lucky to have a dealership that works with you and is knowledgeable. That's why I use the Classic Center. No nonsense, fair pricing, fast shipping. Tom Hanson is truly a gem of a person. He is also a true enthusiast, goes to MB events, and concours. I went to June Jamboree a couple of years ago and a bunch of us and Tom went out to dinner. That is what I call a good relationship with a parts guy! Sent from my iPhone On Jan 19, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I’ve heard that Tom is really good, and that they do a good job of customer service. I’m sorry that other dealers don’t have the same attitude about customers like ourselves that mine does. My parts guy is wonderful, and goes to great lengths to help out and get me whatever I need. Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Wilton Q
In B-52's, I was lucky enough to have never been on the ground in Vietnam - never closer than about 5 miles overhead, usually at about 7 miles. I attended a Bob Hope show at U-Tapao, Thailand, however, in early evening of 23 Dec '72 just before a mission to Haiphong, N. Vietnam. Bob also spoke to us after the show for about 15 minutes during the pre-mission briefing. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 4:33 PM Subject: [MBZ] Wilton Q So, I was re-living some of my youth and watching old shows on youtube last night. I watched some of the Bob Hope USO tours including some from Viet Nam and wondered if Wilton was in the crowd. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
If you get the chance to got there its absolutely worth it.Heres pics from my trip a couple years ago: http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/Mercedes_Classic_Center?sort=3page=1 I've met Tom in person, also another guy who's name escapes me although I have his card around somewhere. -Curt From: Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 9:44 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. On Monday, January 19, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I just have a hard time wondering why people go to the Classic Center when the same parts are readily available from the dealership. Granted, I have a really, really good dealer to work with, which I know is an exception to the norm… I was of the impression that the Classic Center stuff is expensive. Do they charge the same as the dealers? Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:02 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com javascript:; wrote: Because you talk with Tom Hanson who has a clue, is pleasant to deal with, and will get the part to your doorstep in 1-2 days. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer Case Recommendations
I'll +1 Antec, I had one years ago, pre ATX, was that an ATC maybe? It came all apart without screws. Cost more than the motherboard but it was a really good case. I kept it for maybe 10 years until I couldn't get motherboards to fit it anymore. -Curt From: Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 7:35 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer Case Recommendations On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:59:22 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I want to buy him a new (quality) case and power supply so he can appreciate the difference that $30-$40 can make in a situation like this. Antec makes good cases. We used their 4U rackmount cases at the Lab. The folks on the project were used to the old rackmount cases that made a lot of noise. When I finally got all the computers for the project assembled, I had the twelve of them running on a conference room table at once. One of the senior fellows was astounded that you could barely hear all of them running at once. I use their NSK-3480 case here at home. It's a mini-ATX tower with a 380 W 80Plus rated power supply. We go for the low-power end of things, so the power supply is way over-rated for the 46 - 50 W our two computers draw from the wall outlet. They have a lot of other choices of cases, too, in case your son is a gamer. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Yeah, I've never been crazy about this design - there are so many much easier methods to adjust alts, Compressors, etc. Speaking of compressors - I am considering removing this York - the AC has never worked properly and removing it will provide more room to work in the engine bay. It's a 78 240D and it was in poor condition when I bought it. I rebuilt the engine and it is running great but the tranny is starting to do strange things and the rust is really taking over in the rockers.I have considered sending it to the scrap yard but it starts every time i ask it and it's nice to have it around when I don't want to drive the 911 and my wife has the 91 300D. I am going in all kinds of directions on this and just can't decide. Thx larry On 1/19/2015 10:44 AM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote: There's a reason they abandoned that design. The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold it in place. The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt. On Jan 19, 2015, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Unfortunately a bolt won't fix it - it's the star shaped slot the bolt turns in. My bolt is fairly new but the slot has very little for it to grab. Thanks - LarryT 78 240D On 1/19/2015 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer? 110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in W123 Euro Headlights?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:01:44 -0600 Mountain Man via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Karl wrote: I'm pretty handy but if I have to do any vacuum silver plating or the like I might defer! Rick should reply. He has W123 euro headlights - he took them from me. Something was wrong with them... I believe the lens were fine but the reflectors were bad. mao Depending on the brand he has, one might be able to make a good set out of what he and I have. (I have a set of Hella lights, the right one is good, the left one has some problems. I also have a right Bosch light that's good.) Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer Case Recommendations
I would, but the case he currently owns is a POS. This is an opportunity to get him a good foundation for future use. His previous choices were driven by economics, so the case he has now is pretty lousy. I want to buy him a new (quality) case and power supply so he can appreciate the difference that $30-$40 can make in a situation like this. Thanks, Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 6:51 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote: Just replace the power supply in the current case - I think Craig, or someone else on the list recommended a Seatronic when I had to upgrade mine due to a new graphics card. It is very well made. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Eldest son’s PC power supply cacked. Looking for a recommendation for a good quality tower case/enclosure with a decent power supply. He games, but doesn’t do really intense stuff. He’s currently running an Asus ATX MB with an i5 Intel processor and a single video card, one hard drive, one optical. All of his stuff will just be swapped over, no new stuff going in at this point. I like CoolerMaster myself, but am open to suggestions. I want to avoid cheap Chinee stuff with edges that haven’t been deburred, etc. Thanks, Dan -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens! There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves. WILL ROGERS, The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer Case Recommendations
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 18:59:22 -0500 Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I want to buy him a new (quality) case and power supply so he can appreciate the difference that $30-$40 can make in a situation like this. Antec makes good cases. We used their 4U rackmount cases at the Lab. The folks on the project were used to the old rackmount cases that made a lot of noise. When I finally got all the computers for the project assembled, I had the twelve of them running on a conference room table at once. One of the senior fellows was astounded that you could barely hear all of them running at once. I use their NSK-3480 case here at home. It's a mini-ATX tower with a 380 W 80Plus rated power supply. We go for the low-power end of things, so the power supply is way over-rated for the 46 - 50 W our two computers draw from the wall outlet. They have a lot of other choices of cases, too, in case your son is a gamer. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Be glad it's not one of the bolts with the rod welded to the side of the bolt head that threads on to the bushing to tighten and loosen. When I was looking up the toothed bolt I saw one of these and the bolt was $60. Dan Sent from my iPad On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Take it out, weld it up, cut new teeth into it. I'd always planned to do that to my '78 before I conned Dimitri into taking it. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Contacting the Classic Center [was: Re: Alt up per bracket 78 240D]
I have found email to be much more dependable. thomas.han...@mbusa.com On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I call him on the direct line you listed, starts with area code 949. Called twice today and it went to his voice mail both times, so either he is not in the office today or quite busy. There is at least one other guy who also works there, just as friendly, helpful and knowledgeable as Tom. He even listens to Tom's voice mail and will respond for Tom if needed. I've also used his email when I've got a list of stuff to order. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC On January 19, 2015 3:43:09 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: They also have a toll free number, its out in California... 1-866-MBCLASSIC 1-866-622-5277 Tom Hanson Supervisor, Parts Operations Mercedes-Benz Classic Center USA MBUSA, LLC thomas.han...@mbusa.com 949-598-4842 direct - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
I always released the upper and lower bolt but a PO did some damage that's hard to fix without replacing. Thx for the comments -- Larry On 1/19/2015 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: There's a reason they abandoned that design. The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold it in place. The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt. Yup On one of mine, the rack is chewed up and I adjust it with a breaker bar behind the alt to tension the belt while I try to tighten everything down. The rack and pinion adjuster is elegant, but too many ham fisted clowns ruin them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Be glad it's not one of the bolts with the rod welded to the side of
the bolt head that threads on to the bushing to tighten and loosen.
When I was looking up the toothed bolt I saw one of these and the
bolt was $60.
Dan
I've made those, and they don't cost me $60. ('course, they were
not pretty and plated, but they worked.)
What we oughta do is get Rich to make up some 14 ga steel strips with
the teeth cut in on his CNC. Then we could just grind out the side,
and weld in the the new teeth. THen we could have WORKING
alternator adjusters.
Seriously, if someone can measure and create a drawing, I have a
friend with a waterjet. It shouldn't cost that much to get him to
cut 20 or so as a production run. I'd take a couple.
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Re: [MBZ] Wilton Q
Yes, he also went to Guam and the bases in Thailand. Wilton - Original Message - From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wilton Q On 19/01/2015 3:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: So, I was re-living some of my youth and watching old shows on youtube last night. I watched some of the Bob Hope USO tours including some from Viet Nam and wondered if Wilton was in the crowd. RB Prob'ly not The B-52s were kept in other countries/territories AFIK Some of the tours went all over the place - Guam, Thailand etc. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] OT - Computer Case Recommendations
Eldest son’s PC power supply cacked. Looking for a recommendation for a good quality tower case/enclosure with a decent power supply. He games, but doesn’t do really intense stuff. He’s currently running an Asus ATX MB with an i5 Intel processor and a single video card, one hard drive, one optical. All of his stuff will just be swapped over, no new stuff going in at this point. I like CoolerMaster myself, but am open to suggestions. I want to avoid cheap Chinee stuff with edges that haven’t been deburred, etc. Thanks, Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in W123 Euro Headlights?
Karl wrote: I'm pretty handy but if I have to do any vacuum silver plating or the like I might defer! Rick should reply. He has W123 euro headlights - he took them from me. Something was wrong with them... I believe the lens were fine but the reflectors were bad. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Take it out, weld it up, cut new teeth into it. I'd always planned to do that to my '78 before I conned Dimitri into taking it. -Curt From: LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 9:34 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D Unfortunately a bolt won't fix it - it's the star shaped slot the bolt turns in. My bolt is fairly new but the slot has very little for it to grab. Thanks - LarryT 78 240D On 1/19/2015 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer? 110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50 Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:28 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Call the Classic Center. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 11:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Gang - When trying to adjust my alternator belt I found the upper bolt with the star around its collar was turning without adjusting the belt. my lower bracket is ok but the upper has been chewed up. Anyone know where I can find one? Thx! LarryT 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in W123 Euro Headlights?
Original Message From: Mountain Man via Mercedes Sent: Monday, January 19, 2015 7:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Mountain Man Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in W123 Euro Headlights? Karl wrote: I'm pretty handy but if I have to do any vacuum silver plating or the like I might defer! Rick should reply. He has W123 euro headlights - he took them from me. Something was wrong with them... I believe the lens were fine but the reflectors were bad. Had. I sent one to Mike Canfield. The other one I sent to Rolf, in Atlanta. I think both are no longer on this list, or if they are, they no longer participate. Speaking of re-silvering/re-chroming, this is pretty cool. http://youtu.be/yvtRYZ5EasA Rick Sent from my BlackBerry Z10 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Wilton Q
So, I was re-living some of my youth and watching old shows on youtube last night. I watched some of the Bob Hope USO tours including some from Viet Nam and wondered if Wilton was in the crowd. RB Prob'ly not The B-52s were kept in other countries/territories AFIK ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] MBUSA move
According to the MBCA- Hawaii section facilbuch page, MomBUSA is moving to HOTlanta, GA THey referred to Autoblog as a source. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Contacting the Classic Center [was: Re: Alt up per bracket 78 240D]
I call him on the direct line you listed, starts with area code 949. Called twice today and it went to his voice mail both times, so either he is not in the office today or quite busy. There is at least one other guy who also works there, just as friendly, helpful and knowledgeable as Tom. He even listens to Tom's voice mail and will respond for Tom if needed. I've also used his email when I've got a list of stuff to order. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC On January 19, 2015 3:43:09 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: They also have a toll free number, its out in California... 1-866-MBCLASSIC 1-866-622-5277 Tom Hanson Supervisor, Parts Operations Mercedes-Benz Classic Center USA MBUSA, LLC thomas.han...@mbusa.com 949-598-4842 direct - ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Wilton Q
On 19/01/2015 3:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: So, I was re-living some of my youth and watching old shows on youtube last night. I watched some of the Bob Hope USO tours including some from Viet Nam and wondered if Wilton was in the crowd. RB Prob'ly not The B-52s were kept in other countries/territories AFIK Some of the tours went all over the place - Guam, Thailand etc. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] MBUSA move
OLd news, was announced a week or two ago. -R On 1/19/15 5:05 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote: According to the MBCA- Hawaii section facilbuch page, MomBUSA is moving to HOTlanta, GA THey referred to Autoblog as a source. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
The few things I have bought from CC were no more than the dealer prices -- LarryT On 1/19/2015 9:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: I guess I just have a hard time wondering why people go to the Classic Center when the same parts are readily available from the dealership. Granted, I have a really, really good dealer to work with, which I know is an exception to the norm… I was of the impression that the Classic Center stuff is expensive. Do they charge the same as the dealers? Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:02 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: Because you talk with Tom Hanson who has a clue, is pleasant to deal with, and will get the part to your doorstep in 1-2 days. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in W123 Euro Headlights?
Please let Karl have what he likes. I don't currently have a123 car, so they would just go on the shelf. -- Max Dillon Charleston, SC On January 18, 2015 10:57:25 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 18:40:38 -0800 Karl Wittnebel atypical...@gmail.com wrote: Ive been wanting a set of those flat glass ones for my wagon for awhile. Are lenses available? Yes, they are. Max and I have been corresponding about my sending them to him. When I took a closer look at them, I found they were in poorer shape than I remembered. I sent him an email with pictures showing the problems in the one left light I have. I also have two good right lights, but they don't make a set. :-) I'm still waiting for his reply. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Good to know. I wasn’t sure - I’ve only seen things that were NLA they come up with that seem to be really, really expensive. Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:35 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: The few things I have bought from CC were no more than the dealer prices -- LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
I’ve heard that Tom is really good, and that they do a good job of customer service. I’m sorry that other dealers don’t have the same attitude about customers like ourselves that mine does. My parts guy is wonderful, and goes to great lengths to help out and get me whatever I need. Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. On Monday, January 19, 2015, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I guess I just have a hard time wondering why people go to the Classic Center when the same parts are readily available from the dealership. Granted, I have a really, really good dealer to work with, which I know is an exception to the norm… I was of the impression that the Classic Center stuff is expensive. Do they charge the same as the dealers? Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:02 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com javascript:; wrote: Because you talk with Tom Hanson who has a clue, is pleasant to deal with, and will get the part to your doorstep in 1-2 days. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
There's a reason they abandoned that design. The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold it in place. The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt. On Jan 19, 2015, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote: Unfortunately a bolt won't fix it - it's the star shaped slot the bolt turns in. My bolt is fairly new but the slot has very little for it to grab. Thanks - LarryT 78 240D On 1/19/2015 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer? 110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50 Dan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
I've heard that Tom is really good, and that they do a good job of customer service. I'm sorry that other dealers don't have the same attitude about customers like ourselves that mine does. My parts guy is wonderful, and goes to great lengths to help out and get me whatever I need. Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:44 AM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote: They generally discount a bit off of list, 10-15% if I remember correctly. It makes up for paying for shipping usually, and the service is great. Tom is a genuinely great guy and does so much to keep these cars affordable and on the road. Jaime -driving my automatic 240D today after a major service... Very satisfying. You are indeed lucky to have a good stealer. They are few and far between. The stealer here is such a crook I won't set foot inside. Its a 100 mile trip anyway. The only dealerships I will deal with now are ones that advertise in the star for a long time. When H.K. had his dealership I (and many others) would drive a long way to go there, but mostly I just bought parts from him over the phone. H.K had a barn full of obsolete parts that he would let me pick through, then buy stuff for pennies on the $. There used to be a long time dealership in Pekin, Il and I used to mail order parts from them. But they are long gone too. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: The sweet taste of success
On Sun, 18 Jan 2015 19:00:48 -0600 Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote: Baaa! Put a new cord on!Buying a new toaster is no cheapskate way to operate! I thought about that, but thought cords with the proper temperature rating were no longer made. Are they really available? Craig http://www.sundialwire.com/cloth-coveredwirebraidfabric.aspx#category There is brown round in the rayon section. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
There's a reason they abandoned that design. The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold it in place. The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt. Yup On one of mine, the rack is chewed up and I adjust it with a breaker bar behind the alt to tension the belt while I try to tighten everything down. The rack and pinion adjuster is elegant, but too many ham fisted clowns ruin them. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Call the Classic Center. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 11:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Gang - When trying to adjust my alternator belt I found the upper bolt with the star around its collar was turning without adjusting the belt. my lower bracket is ok but the upper has been chewed up. Anyone know where I can find one? Thx! LarryT 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D
Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer? 110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50 Dan On Jan 19, 2015, at 7:28 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Call the Classic Center. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2015, at 11:12 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Hi Gang - When trying to adjust my alternator belt I found the upper bolt with the star around its collar was turning without adjusting the belt. my lower bracket is ok but the upper has been chewed up. Anyone know where I can find one? Thx! LarryT 78 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Here we go again
Nothing has fallen into the spam box for ages but this morning, there are 27 messages from you folks in the spam box since about 5 PM on the 16th.. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Fuel Fill Door Kaput
On my 08 CLK 350 Cabriolet, the fuel filler door has suddenly stopped working. I had just fill the tank, put the cap on and shut the door when my OCD kicked in and I wanted to open the door to ensure the cap was tight. The door will not open now. I took some of the trunk lining out and I can't even see where the actuator is. It's all tucked up in behind the roof operator. I checked the fuse and it's fine. Does anyone have any experience messing with this thing? Bob R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Wilton Q
So, I was re-living some of my youth and watching old shows on youtube last night. I watched some of the Bob Hope USO tours including some from Viet Nam and wondered if Wilton was in the crowd. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] Anyone interested in W123 Euro Headlights?
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 12:39:14 -0800 Karl Wittnebel atypical...@gmail.com wrote: I'm pretty handy but if I have to do any vacuum silver plating or the like I might defer! The reflectors look fine (though one is dirty and will need to be cleaned with no touch methods). Coukd you please send me some pics? Is the lens the clear glass part or the reflector or some mysterious third component? The lens is the clear glass part. Do I need any extra voltage regulators or wiring? No, though you do have to shuffle pins around in the connector which connects to the headlights. Tanks, Karl You are welcome. I'll send the pictures off-list. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Contacting the Classic Center [was: Re: Alt up per bracket 78 240D]
On Mon, 19 Jan 2015 09:02:29 -0500 dseretakis--- via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: Because you talk with Tom Hanson who has a clue, is pleasant to deal with, and will get the part to your doorstep in 1-2 days. I was going to ask how one contacts Tom Hanson at the Classic Center, but I found some information in a file: --- 1-866-622-5277 http://www.mypreownedmercedes.com/matrix.php?mbid=82970 Yep, here's the url for the classic center. Just fill in the info and they email you back. http://www.mbusa.com/heritage/contact-classic-center.do They also have a toll free number, its out in California... 1-866-MBCLASSIC 1-866-622-5277 Tom Hanson Supervisor, Parts Operations Mercedes-Benz Classic Center USA MBUSA, LLC thomas.han...@mbusa.com 949-598-4842 direct --- The first URL takes one to a listing of pre-owned vehicles for sale. The second URL takes one to a page that says, We’re sorry, but this page does not exist The phone number brings up an answering system that says, Thank you for calling the Mercedes Benz Classic Center ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
