Re: [MBZ] door lock issue on 115

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

Remove the door handle from the afflicted door (presumably driver's). You'll 
find an adjustable cam at the end of the plunger. See if it needs adjusting. 
Helps to have another (functional) door handle for comparison. 

> On Oct 9, Randy Bennell wrote:
> 
> I think I have discovered what is ailing the door locks on my car.
> You might recall (or maybe not) my posting about locks that sometimes 
> will not lock.
> In any event it has become more of an issue as the days get cooler. We 
> are not cold yet, but cooler than many of you folks.
> I have discovered, sort of by accident, that if I open the door and then 
> slam it a bit harder, the locks work.
> So, my thought is that the door latch mechanism needs some lubricant.
> 
> RB

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Re: [MBZ] Alternative wheel balancing: beads inside the tire

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Reading further "on the internet" so take with a grain of salt, passenger car 
tires with a low profile (aspect ratio of 65 or lower) cannot use beads alone, 
due to possibility of lateral imbalance in the tire/wheel.  Both my 124 cars 
with stock tires fall in this category.

A lateral imbalance is a difference in tire mass between sides of the tire 
(right side to left side), as differentiated from an imbalance between clock 
positions on the tire.

In such a case, one must have the tire balanced per usual, and then add 2 oz of 
beads if desired to get the ultra smooth ride.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 9, 2015 7:20:48 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Interesting.  I’ve never heard of such a thing.
>
>Nice to know it’s a legitimate approach.  The science certainly
>appeared to be correct, but you never know….
>
>Thanks!
>
>Dan
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> I've been using them for over 10 years in semi sized tires with great
>> results.
>> 
>> I've had 40 ft diesel pusher class A motor homes that used 12R X 22.5
>> wheels.
>> Installing the correct amount of beads in each wheel has always
>resulted in
>> an extra smooth ride which is hard to achieve in tires of that size
>using
>> lead weights mounted on the rim..
>> 
>> First use was in a set of tires which were used and having balance
>issues..
>> Beads cured the issues and I've been sold since..
>> 
>> I have no experience using them in smaller, lighter, passenger car
>tires.
>> 
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Alternative wheel balancing: beads inside the tire

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

So how much of a difference is there between a “smooth” ride and an “ultra 
smooth” ride?  And how can I tell?

Inquiring minds want to know...

Dan


> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Reading further "on the internet" so take with a grain of salt, passenger car 
> tires with a low profile (aspect ratio of 65 or lower) cannot use beads 
> alone, due to possibility of lateral imbalance in the tire/wheel.  Both my 
> 124 cars with stock tires fall in this category.
> 
> A lateral imbalance is a difference in tire mass between sides of the tire 
> (right side to left side), as differentiated from an imbalance between clock 
> positions on the tire.
> 
> In such a case, one must have the tire balanced per usual, and then add 2 oz 
> of beads if desired to get the ultra smooth ride.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 


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[MBZ] Uh, yeah, about that cheat code...

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Ooops!

http://jalopnik.com/the-epa-may-have-found-a-second-secret-defeat-device-in-1735745096

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

 > On October 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes

  wrote:


 I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting said
 parts from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable
 arrangement, not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and down.


My W140 has that arrangement. As the window finished closing, the upper pulley
broke in half with a loud bang that made me fear the glass had broken.
Fortunately the window stayed fully closed.
Unfortunately, I opened it a few days later without having a spare regulator
on hand. When the upper pulley is broken, the lower cable can pull it open
but it isn't going to close again, even if you raise the glass by hand while
somebody else taps the button.
A comment in a regulator replacement thread at Benzworld recommends replacing
the regulator, closing the window, and never opening the rear windows again.

Mitch.


Another reason to stick with older MBs.

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Re: [MBZ] Alternative wheel balancing: beads inside the tire

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Interesting.  I’ve never heard of such a thing.

Nice to know it’s a legitimate approach.  The science certainly appeared to be 
correct, but you never know….

Thanks!

Dan


> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:14 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I've been using them for over 10 years in semi sized tires with great
> results.
> 
> I've had 40 ft diesel pusher class A motor homes that used 12R X 22.5
> wheels.
> Installing the correct amount of beads in each wheel has always resulted in
> an extra smooth ride which is hard to achieve in tires of that size using
> lead weights mounted on the rim..
> 
> First use was in a set of tires which were used and having balance issues..
> Beads cured the issues and I've been sold since..
> 
> I have no experience using them in smaller, lighter, passenger car tires.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Don Wills via Mercedes]

In a tribute to the W123, I've been problem free since dropping off of the
list. Debbie and I have a running bet/joke on which will fail first, the
275K engine or the rusty body. I always thought the engine would win.
Wondering now.


On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Don Wills  wrote:

> Wilton, not lurking. I use GMail for this, so can pop in every couple of
> weeks and catch up. I responded to ever thread to which I could add
> something intelligent. Didn't happen too often.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  > wrote:
>
>> I've had both the pumps fail, and the large hard vacuum line crack. Check
>> both.
>>
>> Welcome back, Don, it's been lonely being the only Don here  ;-)
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > The check valves in the pump can fail too, a cheaper fix if you can
>> still
>> > find them.
>> >
>> > Primary cause in my experience is a crack in the section of the line
>> where
>> > all the vacuum lines attach.  You have to replace the whole line, the
>> > center section is not available separately.  This may restore other
>> vacuum
>> > accessories, too.
>> >
>> > Peter
>> >
>> >
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>>
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>> who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>>
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

DAMN, I forgot your progeny was of that age!


Goes by fast.  Will be 14yo in a couple of weeks, that gives us
a year and change to find/fix car before driving lessons begin.

There is a really nice looking w115 by me.  Driver door got smacked 
and is now gathering parking tickets.  Not mine, but it should really 
go to a good home if the owner will part with it.


I have two front W115 doors in storage.  U-pull, _with_ mirrors.

Boy says W115 or W123 is all the same to him.  We have one each,
so he has samples to examine.  Not a choice yet at all, he also
said he might like Swedish.  ('Cause it's Swedish, he wouldn't
know one from a rolling dog turd.)

Just trying to get him thinking a bit about the whole process.

Local w123 are either scrap or over priced at the moment.   I can keep 
an eye for something large enough for a bass, stick, and of 
questionable coloration


Sure, that'd be fine.  Don't bust your hump over it or anything,
we're far from that point.  SWMBA is mighty A about the whole thing.
Feeling left out I guess.  Yeah, like she cares about cars...
Projecting much, dear?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Alternative wheel balancing: beads inside the tire

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think Grant may be able to answer that. I'm intrigued enough to fork over 
some dough and try this.

There is more reading if you follow the link within the link I posted, 
specifically this one may be of interest:

http://innovativebalancing.com/mobile/testimonials.php
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 9, 2015 7:59:33 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>So how much of a difference is there between a “smooth” ride and an
>“ultra smooth” ride?  And how can I tell?
>
>Inquiring minds want to know...
>
>Dan
>
>
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Reading further "on the internet" so take with a grain of salt,
>passenger car tires with a low profile (aspect ratio of 65 or lower)
>cannot use beads alone, due to possibility of lateral imbalance in the
>tire/wheel.  Both my 124 cars with stock tires fall in this category.
>> 
>> A lateral imbalance is a difference in tire mass between sides of the
>tire (right side to left side), as differentiated from an imbalance
>between clock positions on the tire.
>> 
>> In such a case, one must have the tire balanced per usual, and then
>add 2 oz of beads if desired to get the ultra smooth ride.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>> 
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Curly McLain via Mercedes]

I missed LT Don's msg. - please re-post.


He was lamenting that he could not choose between Rubio or Cruz.

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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Don Wills via Mercedes]

Wilton, not lurking. I use GMail for this, so can pop in every couple of
weeks and catch up. I responded to ever thread to which I could add
something intelligent. Didn't happen too often.


On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I've had both the pumps fail, and the large hard vacuum line crack. Check
> both.
>
> Welcome back, Don, it's been lonely being the only Don here  ;-)
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > The check valves in the pump can fail too, a cheaper fix if you can still
> > find them.
> >
> > Primary cause in my experience is a crack in the section of the line
> where
> > all the vacuum lines attach.  You have to replace the whole line, the
> > center section is not available separately.  This may restore other
> vacuum
> > accessories, too.
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!
>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

123 power windows never fail?  If original, this part has lasted nearly thirty 
years and just shy of 350k miles.  I'll compare that to any electric window 
from the 123 or 126 series...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 9, 2015 10:24:06 PM EDT, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>>  > On October 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>>>   wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>  I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting
>said
>>>  parts from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable
>>>  arrangement, not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and
>down.
>>
>>My W140 has that arrangement. As the window finished closing, the
>upper pulley
>>broke in half with a loud bang that made me fear the glass had broken.
>>Fortunately the window stayed fully closed.
>>Unfortunately, I opened it a few days later without having a spare
>regulator
>>on hand. When the upper pulley is broken, the lower cable can pull it
>open
>>but it isn't going to close again, even if you raise the glass by hand
>while
>>somebody else taps the button.
>>A comment in a regulator replacement thread at Benzworld recommends
>replacing
>>the regulator, closing the window, and never opening the rear windows
>again.
>>
>>Mitch.
>
>Another reason to stick with older MBs.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Alternative wheel balancing: beads inside the tire

[OK Don via Mercedes]

One of my MB's came with a set of tube like disks that were bolted with the
wheel. They contained BB's, or something similar, and were supposed to
auto-balance the wheels. I took them off thinking that at the least they
were restricting airflow to the brakes. I could not tell a difference
between driving with or without them.

On the other hand, there are folks who make engine for ultra-light aircraft
from a VW engine missing two cylinders. The resulting (often high
compression and large displacement) engines are rather rough with one pulse
per revolution. Several have tried similar auto-balance devices mounted
behind the prop and have reported good results. YMMV.


On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Anyone ever hear of this, or try it?
>

-- 
OK Don

NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

How about your daughter?  Mine is now nine, thinks she runs the house and 
trying to take over the school too.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On October 9, 2015 10:11:30 PM EDT, Don Wills via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>In a tribute to the W123, I've been problem free since dropping off of
>the
>list. Debbie and I have a running bet/joke on which will fail first,
>the
>275K engine or the rusty body. I always thought the engine would win.
>Wondering now.
>
>
>On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Don Wills 
>wrote:
>
>> Wilton, not lurking. I use GMail for this, so can pop in every couple
>of
>> weeks and catch up. I responded to ever thread to which I could add
>> something intelligent. Didn't happen too often.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 1:46 PM, OK Don via Mercedes
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I've had both the pumps fail, and the large hard vacuum line crack.
>Check
>>> both.
>>>
>>> Welcome back, Don, it's been lonely being the only Don here  ;-)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > The check valves in the pump can fail too, a cheaper fix if you
>can
>>> still
>>> > find them.
>>> >
>>> > Primary cause in my experience is a crack in the section of the
>line
>>> where
>>> > all the vacuum lines attach.  You have to replace the whole line,
>the
>>> > center section is not available separately.  This may restore
>other
>>> vacuum
>>> > accessories, too.
>>> >
>>> > Peter
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>>
>>> NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US
>citizens!
>>>
>>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and
>many of
>>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>>
>>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The
>few
>>> who
>>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>fence
>>> for themselves."
>>>
>>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

It's good Max had a cashay of parts to fix it.

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Alternative wheel balancing: beads inside the tire

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Whenever I see something like this, I always wonder that if it’s such a 
groundbreaking/revolutionary idea, why haven’t we heard about it?

“As Seen On TV”?

Dan


> On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone ever hear of this, or try it?
> 
> http://aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/balancing_beads/
> 
> Welcome to balancing beads.  The weights are actually perfectly round beads
> that give you a custom balance every time you pull away from the curb.
> There are a couple ways you can balance your car's tires with beads.  The
> commercial way is to buy balancing beads in a kit
> .  Of
> course this is "Tools-On-The-Cheap" so I have a cheaper alternative: * high
> density* air-soft BBs!!  The reason I use these BBs is simple; they're
> perfectly round, will not corrode (and go out of round which cause them not
> to be able to roll) and of course, they're cheap.  If you buy one of these
> bottles of beads, you can balance 2 sets of tires (8 tires) for under $15.
> 
> 
> Your typical car tire requires 3.5oz of beads.  I used a postal scale to
> measure out 3.5oz and then places them into a zip-loc bag.  I repeated that
> 3 more times until I had 4 bags with 3.5oz in each.  Then when you have the
> tires mounted, tell the tire installers to simply pour one bag per tire in
> before they seat the tire bead on the rims with air.  Once mounted to the
> rims, air the tires as normal.  Mount them on your car and drive away
> happy.
> 
> NOTE:  Many tire shops do not have separate charges for mounting/balancing,
> so of they don't have to balance the tires they'll mount them for free.
> 
>The way these work is simple;
> 
> - You start driving and at around 10-15mph, the beads are flung out by
> centrifugal force and are stuck to the inside of your tire.
> 
> - They roll around naturally distributing the weight evenly.
> 
> - Whenever your wheel tries to move up, the beads counter that movement by
> moving down momentarily.
> 
> - This constant countering of the wheel movement produces an incredibly
> smooth ride and is an active wheel balance system.
> 
> - When coming to a stop, the beads will stay in place until about 3-4mph.
> Below that they will simply fall to the bottom of the rim.
> 
> - Drive above 10-15mph and the process starts all over again. . .
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Latest purchase

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Should we start a pool to see how long she can drive it before it's destroyed?



Dan

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just bought a 07 R320 CDI 4matic for the wife. Had the GL before but straying 
> into new territory with this thing. Picked it up for $6k. Needs a couple of 
> little trim prices that are cracked but other than that seems to be in good 
> shape. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] door lock issue on 115

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 15:01:47 -0500 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I think I have discovered what is ailing the door locks on my car.
> You might recall (or maybe not) my posting about locks that sometimes 
> will not lock.
> In any event it has become more of an issue as the days get cooler. We 
> are not cold yet, but cooler than many of you folks.
> I have discovered, sort of by accident, that if I open the door and
> then slam it a bit harder, the locks work.
> So, my thought is that the door latch mechanism needs some lubricant.

Either that, or the lubricant that is there is hardened up and needs to
be cleaned out thoroughly and replaced with new.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[clay via Mercedes]

What I found that probably does not fit the bill

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5247862716.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5253972729.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5246619211.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5247748110.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5250130020.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/tac/cto/5252605497.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5246852138.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/est/cto/5230207800.html

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/cto/5257260369.html




On Oct 8, 2015, at 8:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

> Excellent choice! Our youngest two learned to drive in the 240D Manual W123
> (it was bought new by their great-grandfather).
> 
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 8:59 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> #1 (and only) son now allows as to how a 240D 123 (manual)
>> might be a contender as his first car.  The Beetle is out
>> because he's taking up the string bass.  We already know
>> that they basically don't fit in those, that's why the
>> neighbors got rid of theirs.  Anyway, once he hits 14yo
>> this month car-hunting season officially opens!  I expect
>> it to take months before anything might actually be
>> procured.
>> 
>> _Ideally_ he'd take a shine to our Chevy pickup, then
>> I could get something else as our woods beater.  :-)
>> But he hates it, so that's a no-go.
>> 
>> Criteria:  Safe; slow; stickshift; needs work, especially
>> some (but not huge amounts) of cosmetic work; relatively
>> inexpensive; something he _likes_.  An old MB would be
>> ideal, for many reasons.  The idea is to get him into
>> something he likes and with a fair amount of sweat equity.
>> Maximizes our chances of keeping him alive, while minimizing
>> our expenses.  Funky colors move to the head of the line.
>> 
>> -- Jim
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
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> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Latest purchase

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I wonder if there is an app you can make your car look like its wrecked.

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 4:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Should we start a pool to see how long she can drive it before it's destroyed?
> 
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 3:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just bought a 07 R320 CDI 4matic for the wife. Had the GL before but 
>> straying into new territory with this thing. Picked it up for $6k. Needs a 
>> couple of little trim prices that are cracked but other than that seems to 
>> be in good shape. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Alternative wheel balancing: beads inside the tire

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I've been using them for over 10 years in semi sized tires with great
results.

I've had 40 ft diesel pusher class A motor homes that used 12R X 22.5
wheels.
Installing the correct amount of beads in each wheel has always resulted in
an extra smooth ride which is hard to achieve in tires of that size using
lead weights mounted on the rim..

First use was in a set of tires which were used and having balance issues..
Beads cured the issues and I've been sold since..

I have no experience using them in smaller, lighter, passenger car tires.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 4:04 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Whenever I see something like this, I always wonder that if it’s such a
> groundbreaking/revolutionary idea, why haven’t we heard about it?
>
> “As Seen On TV”?
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:54 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone ever hear of this, or try it?
> >
> > http://aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/balancing_beads/
> >
> > Welcome to balancing beads.  The weights are actually perfectly round
> beads
> > that give you a custom balance every time you pull away from the curb.
> > There are a couple ways you can balance your car's tires with beads.  The
> > commercial way is to buy balancing beads in a kit
> > .
> Of
> > course this is "Tools-On-The-Cheap" so I have a cheaper alternative: *
> high
> > density* air-soft BBs!!  The reason I use these BBs is simple; they're
> > perfectly round, will not corrode (and go out of round which cause them
> not
> > to be able to roll) and of course, they're cheap.  If you buy one of
> these
> > bottles of beads, you can balance 2 sets of tires (8 tires) for under
> $15.
> >
> >
> > Your typical car tire requires 3.5oz of beads.  I used a postal scale to
> > measure out 3.5oz and then places them into a zip-loc bag.  I repeated
> that
> > 3 more times until I had 4 bags with 3.5oz in each.  Then when you have
> the
> > tires mounted, tell the tire installers to simply pour one bag per tire
> in
> > before they seat the tire bead on the rims with air.  Once mounted to the
> > rims, air the tires as normal.  Mount them on your car and drive away
> > happy.
> >
> > NOTE:  Many tire shops do not have separate charges for
> mounting/balancing,
> > so of they don't have to balance the tires they'll mount them for free.
> >
> >The way these work is simple;
> >
> > - You start driving and at around 10-15mph, the beads are flung out by
> > centrifugal force and are stuck to the inside of your tire.
> >
> > - They roll around naturally distributing the weight evenly.
> >
> > - Whenever your wheel tries to move up, the beads counter that movement
> by
> > moving down momentarily.
> >
> > - This constant countering of the wheel movement produces an incredibly
> > smooth ride and is an active wheel balance system.
> >
> > - When coming to a stop, the beads will stay in place until about 3-4mph.
> > Below that they will simply fall to the bottom of the rim.
> >
> > - Drive above 10-15mph and the process starts all over again. . .
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] door lock issue on 115

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

> On Oct 9, 2015, Randy Bennell 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] door lock issue on 115
> Message-ID: <56181d2b.9050...@bennell.ca>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
> 
> I think I have discovered what is ailing the door locks on my car.
> You might recall (or maybe not) my posting about locks that sometimes 
> will not lock.
> In any event it has become more of an issue as the days get cooler. We 
> are not cold yet, but cooler than many of you folks.
> I have discovered, sort of by accident, that if I open the door and then 
> slam it a bit harder, the locks work.
> So, my thought is that the door latch mechanism needs some lubricant.
> 
> RB

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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 22:38:18 -0400 Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 123 power windows never fail?  If original, this part has lasted nearly
> thirty years and just shy of 350k miles.  I'll compare that to any
> electric window from the 123 or 126 series...

I had to repair the driver's manual window regulator in our '82 240D/3.0.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Golf keys

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

Speaking of BeeDubs, I saw in the paper yesterday where the used price 
of dizzels has already dropped 15%.  I'm thinking if you could snag one 
prior to being "upgraded" for cheepcheep you would have a good deal, and 
might even be able to get on the gravy train for "damages."


--R


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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Rear window regulator uses a cable, front uses bastardized design combining
electric motor with hand crank mechanism (or at least that what it looks
like to me).

Didn't someone develop a field modification to strengthen the door or the
regulator to reduce the flexing (and the resulting metal fatigue) and
prolong the life?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
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> I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting said parts
> from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable arrangement,
> not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and down.
>
> --R
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Golf keys

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The Vdub brass told Congress this week that they won't replace the affected 
cars, but he wasn't sure what the fix would be.

I'm wondering how they'll ever get 100% compliance from the owners.

I had a Pinto under the gas tank recall, and I pretty much made Ford come and 
get the car to do the work.  Otherwise I wasn't going to mess with it.

Dan

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:04 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of BeeDubs, I saw in the paper yesterday where the used price of 
> dizzels has already dropped 15%.  I'm thinking if you could snag one prior to 
> being "upgraded" for cheepcheep you would have a good deal, and might even be 
> able to get on the gravy train for "damages."
> 
> --R
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Way to go Dimitri. Keep us posted.
On Oct 8, 2015 6:37 PM, "Dimitri via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Winter is setting in and I need a winter beater as my China blue 240D is
> still undergoing rust repair and I'm certainly not driving the BMW 2002 or
> the pagoda in the snow! So, I went to flaps, bought a bottle of blue devil
> head gasket fix and poured it into the radiator!
> So far so good. But you all know that this car is possessed so I
> definitely won't hold my breath!!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D revisited

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Great criteria!  Mine were the same, except I didn't demand manual 
trans.


I want him to be able to drive anything.  What he _chooses_
for himself, later, will then be up to him.

Early days yet, no guarantee that an MB will be the final choice.
But it's nice if it hasn't been eliminated already.  A 240D
slushbox is NOT on the list.  We had one once, I'd consider it
dangerously slow.  (The difference between it and our 200D manny
was unbelievable.)

The 300D Chicken Wagon's tranny is bad, probably a B2 issue.
A manual conversion would be _excellent_ in all respects, but
as I've done this on the 190D it's more work than the plan
calls for.  He'd lose interest before it was completed.

I figger a male child who has significant sweat equity in a car is 
more likely to care for it and not take too many excessive risks.


Sweat equity an an innate love (or at least liking).  That's
my secret weapon!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

G: No, I mean a 110v generator feeding an inverter that converts it to 
DC.


Terminology.  That's not an _inverter_!  Converting AC to DC is
easy, cheap, and common.  Inverting the process is not, relatively
speaking.

The inverter-based generators, like Honda's EU1000i, are DC generators
that feed AC inverters.  (Almost certainly they are AC alternators
feeding 3-wave bridge rectifiers to make DC, exactly like what a car
does.  Frequency [pre-filtration] is variable, and irrelevant.)
That's what they _do_.

G: If that sort of UPS were available, that's all that would be 
needed, I would think.


They are, you just have to look them up.  They will eat any sort
of trash and emit clean output.  Not the cheapest variety.  But
one thing that seems to always be available is a surplus UPS
with bad batteries.  A new APC2000 wasn't $35, but that's what
I paid for mine.  Plus $350 for new oversized batteries, and
it's been working for a decade now.  (And another $40 for a
used battery to replace the one early [4.5 year] failure.)

But computer equipment is _not_ particularly sensitive.  Why
should it be?  You just need to protect it from giant surges
and the like.  Any trashy generator should be fine for those,
so long as it wasn't a cheap POS that's running right on the
ragged edge of failure anyway.

Most of ours are rated 100-240V, 50-60 Hz.  That doesn't sound
all that sensitive, does it?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[WILTON via Mercedes]

'Havin' to do a field/home mod on a "$75 thou" car to make it reliably do 
what the original cheap bastards shoulda done.  Now, that makes me damned 
mad - almost as mad as I was when I learned about the rod bender engine in 
the "top-of-the-line" 350SDL I paid plenty-good money for in '95.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "Meade Dillon" 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon


Rear window regulator uses a cable, front uses bastardized design 
combining

electric motor with hand crank mechanism (or at least that what it looks
like to me).

Didn't someone develop a field modification to strengthen the door or the
regulator to reduce the flexing (and the resulting metal fatigue) and
prolong the life?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting said 
parts

from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable arrangement,
not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and down.

--R



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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea, Lt Wonko only turns up when he needs something. 

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wow!  Another voice from the past!
> 
> Zoltan and Lt Wonko both surfacing within 24 hours!   Is there some strange 
> planetary alignment?  High tide?   Alien Invasion?
> 
> Welcome back!
> 
> 
>> He certainly is on crack.
>> 
>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, but it has a spare tire!!!
>>> 
>>> So do I!  Not worth too much at the bank... :-)
>> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 9, 2015 at 1:08 AM archer75--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
> G: No, I mean a 110v generator feeding an inverter that converts it to DC.
> Then, the inverter feeds the DC to another inverter that produces a 110v sine
> wave. Then, if the sine wave is now a steady 60hz but with a squirrelly sine
> wave, a sine wave line conditioner would be added. 

Could the first step just as easily be a bridge rectifier?

Exactly how are the "inverter generators" wired?

Mitch. 

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Re: [MBZ] Car for Todd or Mao

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 8, 2015 at 6:29 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Rick wrote:
> > http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/5237079334.html

$1750 for a nonrunning W140? I don't think so. 
Take the 1 off the front of the price and it might be feasible.

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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Fri, 9 Oct 2015 10:40:53 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> And then your computer takes the 110-240V 50-60Hz and turns it back into
> DC...

Yup.


> A laptop needs a DC input, maybe some efficiency could be gained by
> simply converting the AC from the generator to DC once, and then only
> consuming DC on that circuit? 

Yes.


> Lights and water heaters don't care about frequency, batteries charge
> fine on DC last I checked.

The water heater temperature-sensitive switch might not like DC since it
will tend to arc. What you use to charge batteries determines whether you
can charge with DC. A 60-Hz-transformer-based charger will not work on DC.


> Are there PC power supplies that accept DC power as well as AC power?

There are PC power supplies which accept DC only. Depending how they are
built, "normal" PC power supplies may accept a DC input just fine, but it
will likely need to be 170 VDC.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Tim Crone via Mercedes]

On Oct 7, 2015 11:52 PM, "Jim Cathey via Mercedes" 
wrote:
>>
>
> Budget is essentially zero, as what we have serves the needs.
> We just charge UPS on rope-pull; heat water, cook, dry on BB.

May be time for an upgrade, that seems way too complicated.  Andrew says
solar is a good deal; I'll bet your generator could power a whole heap of
incandescents, and you could set up a fan + wind farm to keep them cool!

Best,
Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Brake booster question

[OK Don via Mercedes]

What Max said - - -
In my experience, repairing the master cylinder is usually followed by
needing to repair whe3el cylinders. My guess is that the increased pressure
available from the new master cylinder causes the weak wheel cylinders to
go next. YMMV.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 9:25 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Both, and sooner rather than later.  "The ability to stop is more
> important than the ability to go."
> --
> Max Dillon
>
> --
>
OK Don

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"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2013 F150, 18 mpg
2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I've had both the pumps fail, and the large hard vacuum line crack. Check
both.

Welcome back, Don, it's been lonely being the only Don here  ;-)

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:13 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The check valves in the pump can fail too, a cheaper fix if you can still
> find them.
>
> Primary cause in my experience is a crack in the section of the line where
> all the vacuum lines attach.  You have to replace the whole line, the
> center section is not available separately.  This may restore other vacuum
> accessories, too.
>
> Peter
>
>

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] Alternative wheel balancing: beads inside the tire

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Anyone ever hear of this, or try it?

http://aircooledtech.com/tools-on-the-cheap/balancing_beads/

Welcome to balancing beads.  The weights are actually perfectly round beads
that give you a custom balance every time you pull away from the curb.
There are a couple ways you can balance your car's tires with beads.  The
commercial way is to buy balancing beads in a kit
.  Of
course this is "Tools-On-The-Cheap" so I have a cheaper alternative: * high
density* air-soft BBs!!  The reason I use these BBs is simple; they're
perfectly round, will not corrode (and go out of round which cause them not
to be able to roll) and of course, they're cheap.  If you buy one of these
bottles of beads, you can balance 2 sets of tires (8 tires) for under $15.


Your typical car tire requires 3.5oz of beads.  I used a postal scale to
measure out 3.5oz and then places them into a zip-loc bag.  I repeated that
3 more times until I had 4 bags with 3.5oz in each.  Then when you have the
tires mounted, tell the tire installers to simply pour one bag per tire in
before they seat the tire bead on the rims with air.  Once mounted to the
rims, air the tires as normal.  Mount them on your car and drive away
happy.

NOTE:  Many tire shops do not have separate charges for mounting/balancing,
so of they don't have to balance the tires they'll mount them for free.

The way these work is simple;

- You start driving and at around 10-15mph, the beads are flung out by
centrifugal force and are stuck to the inside of your tire.

- They roll around naturally distributing the weight evenly.

- Whenever your wheel tries to move up, the beads counter that movement by
moving down momentarily.

- This constant countering of the wheel movement produces an incredibly
smooth ride and is an active wheel balance system.

- When coming to a stop, the beads will stay in place until about 3-4mph.
Below that they will simply fall to the bottom of the rim.

- Drive above 10-15mph and the process starts all over again. . .

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Golf keys

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I had the same thought - wait a bit, get a bargain, decide later whether to
let them "fix" it or not.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 11:04 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Speaking of BeeDubs, I saw in the paper yesterday where the used price of
> dizzels has already dropped 15%.  I'm thinking if you could snag one prior
> to being "upgraded" for cheepcheep you would have a good deal, and might
> even be able to get on the gravy train for "damages."
>
> --R
>



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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The rear window regulators on the W140 chassis cars have a design flaw, and 
it's more about materials than anything else.

The design itself isn't bad, but the stress placed on the plastic or nylon 
pulleys that are used exceeds their strength or as they age they can't handle 
the stress. Ultimately, they break and the cable goes slack, allowing the 
window to drop.

I've also seen instances where the window won't slide smoothly due to lack of 
lubrication in the guides, which puts stress on the cable and causes it to 
"jump" off the pulley(s).

So in my opinion, they didn't design it poorly, they just didn't spec the 
materials out so they would hold up over time.

Dan

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 1:41 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 'Havin' to do a field/home mod on a "$75 thou" car to make it reliably do 
> what the original cheap bastards shoulda done.  Now, that makes me damned mad 
> - almost as mad as I was when I learned about the rod bender engine in the 
> "top-of-the-line" 350SDL I paid plenty-good money for in '95.
> 
> Wilton
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 
> 
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Meade Dillon" 
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon
> 
> 
>> Rear window regulator uses a cable, front uses bastardized design combining
>> electric motor with hand crank mechanism (or at least that what it looks
>> like to me).
>> 
>> Didn't someone develop a field modification to strengthen the door or the
>> regulator to reduce the flexing (and the resulting metal fatigue) and
>> prolong the life?
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting said parts
>>> from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable arrangement,
>>> not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and down.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Latest purchase

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

How many miles on the clock?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

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>  wrote:
> 
> Just bought a 07 R320 CDI 4matic for the wife. Had the GL before but straying 
> into new territory with this thing. Picked it up for $6k. Needs a couple of 
> little trim prices that are cracked but other than that seems to be in good 
> shape. 
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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Specin' materials is part of the design.  Somebody tried to do it "on the 
cheap."


Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon


The rear window regulators on the W140 chassis cars have a design flaw, 
and it's more about materials than anything else.


The design itself isn't bad, but the stress placed on the plastic or nylon 
pulleys that are used exceeds their strength or as they age they can't 
handle the stress. Ultimately, they break and the cable goes slack, 
allowing the window to drop.


I've also seen instances where the window won't slide smoothly due to lack 
of lubrication in the guides, which puts stress on the cable and causes it 
to "jump" off the pulley(s).


So in my opinion, they didn't design it poorly, they just didn't spec the 
materials out so they would hold up over time.


Dan

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 9, 2015, at 1:41 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:


'Havin' to do a field/home mod on a "$75 thou" car to make it reliably do 
what the original cheap bastards shoulda done.  Now, that makes me damned 
mad - almost as mad as I was when I learned about the rod bender engine 
in the "top-of-the-line" 350SDL I paid plenty-good money for in '95.


Wilton

- Original Message - From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" 


To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
Cc: "Meade Dillon" 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:33 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon


Rear window regulator uses a cable, front uses bastardized design 
combining

electric motor with hand crank mechanism (or at least that what it looks
like to me).

Didn't someone develop a field modification to strengthen the door or 
the

regulator to reduce the flexing (and the resulting metal fatigue) and
prolong the life?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting said 
parts
from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable 
arrangement,

not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and down.

--R



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Re: [MBZ] Latest purchase

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Congrats.  Mighty fine vehicle.  'Hope all goes well.

Wilton

- Original Message - 
From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 

To: ; 
Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 3:37 PM
Subject: [MBZ] Latest purchase


Just bought a 07 R320 CDI 4matic for the wife. Had the GL before but 
straying into new territory with this thing. Picked it up for $6k. Needs a 
couple of little trim prices that are cracked but other than that seems to 
be in good shape.


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Re: [MBZ] Latest purchase

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

170

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> On Oct 9, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> How many miles on the clock?
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Just bought a 07 R320 CDI 4matic for the wife. Had the GL before but 
>> straying into new territory with this thing. Picked it up for $6k. Needs a 
>> couple of little trim prices that are cracked but other than that seems to 
>> be in good shape. 
>> 
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[MBZ] door lock issue on 115

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I think I have discovered what is ailing the door locks on my car.
You might recall (or maybe not) my posting about locks that sometimes 
will not lock.
In any event it has become more of an issue as the days get cooler. We 
are not cold yet, but cooler than many of you folks.
I have discovered, sort of by accident, that if I open the door and then 
slam it a bit harder, the locks work.

So, my thought is that the door latch mechanism needs some lubricant.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Gwagen w463 are famous for this same failure. You can buy sliding door
nylon pulleys with steel ball bearings for about $4 at the hardware store
which are a direct swap into the assembly with rivets. Beats 600 for a new
regulator each time.
On Oct 9, 2015 12:51 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Specin' materials is part of the design.  Somebody tried to do it "on the
> cheap."
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 3:07 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon
>
>
> The rear window regulators on the W140 chassis cars have a design flaw,
>> and it's more about materials than anything else.
>>
>> The design itself isn't bad, but the stress placed on the plastic or
>> nylon pulleys that are used exceeds their strength or as they age they
>> can't handle the stress. Ultimately, they break and the cable goes slack,
>> allowing the window to drop.
>>
>> I've also seen instances where the window won't slide smoothly due to
>> lack of lubrication in the guides, which puts stress on the cable and
>> causes it to "jump" off the pulley(s).
>>
>> So in my opinion, they didn't design it poorly, they just didn't spec the
>> materials out so they would hold up over time.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Oct 9, 2015, at 1:41 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> 'Havin' to do a field/home mod on a "$75 thou" car to make it reliably
>>> do what the original cheap bastards shoulda done.  Now, that makes me
>>> damned mad - almost as mad as I was when I learned about the rod bender
>>> engine in the "top-of-the-line" 350SDL I paid plenty-good money for in '95.
>>>
>>> Wilton
>>>
>>> - Original Message - From: "Meade Dillon via Mercedes" <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
>>> Cc: "Meade Dillon" 
>>> Sent: Friday, October 09, 2015 12:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon
>>>
>>>
>>> Rear window regulator uses a cable, front uses bastardized design
 combining
 electric motor with hand crank mechanism (or at least that what it looks
 like to me).

 Didn't someone develop a field modification to strengthen the door or
 the
 regulator to reduce the flexing (and the resulting metal fatigue) and
 prolong the life?

 -
 Max
 Charleston SC

 On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting said
> parts
> from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable
> arrangement,
> not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and down.
>
> --R
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's the Mulroney sticker?

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:25 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Having the Preservation class allow those of us less monetarily gifted to
> return our aged vehicles to a more original condition with the old bits.
> No great added value while it lives in the garage, but maybe when it gets
> listed for sale, we can say the AC is ice cold, and all the parts are
> there.  Really wish I had the Mulroney sticker.
>
> clay
>
> On Oct 8, 2015, at 3:19 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > And that's important for your cars?
> >
> > I am very familiar with concours judging, so rest assured that should I
> ever own such a car I won't toss the first aid kit...
> >
> > 
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> >> On Oct 8, 2015, at 6:17 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> It tends to make judges happy at show and shine or collector car
> gatherings to be as close to how it was born.  MBCA Preservation class
> award has a lengthy list of needed original items to pass muster.  First
> aid kit is on the list, along with tool kit and all the booklets and even
> the dang glove box flashlight in the SL R107
> >>
> >>
> >> clay
> >>
> >> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> >> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> >> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> >> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> >> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 8, 2015, at 5:35 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The whole idea is to NEVER need to use it.  Just like a rare comic book
> >>> that's never even been opened.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:42 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  I would agree, but anything that has adhesive is toast.
> 
>  I just buy a brand new first aid kit in the plastic box that has
> fresh and
>  more modern stuff in it and use that.
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 280e

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

LOL.  Very droll.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
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> Andrew.
> Needs restoration = Jack-up the hubcaps and slide a new car in.
> Fred
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Andrew
> Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> Sent: 09 October 2015 02:48
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Andrew Strasfogel; Fred Moir
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 280e
>
> Does "needs restoration" imply that it's very shabby but runs and drives?
>
> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 5:04 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > V8 anyone?
> >
> >
> > Fred Moir.
> > Lynn MA.
> > Diesel preferred.
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: ro...@craigslist.org 
> > Sent: 08 October 2015 20:54
> > To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
> > Subject: Mercedes Benz 280e
> >
> >
> > fred.s...@verizon.net forwarded you this from craigslist:
> >
> > 
> > Mercedes Benz 280e
> >
> > http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/5242697467.html
> >
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> > http://maine.craigslist.org/cto/5242697467.html>
> >
> > Mercedes Benz 280e
> > 1973 Mercedes Benz 280e 4.5l v8,needs restoration but solid 800.00 Email
> > for pics
> > Read more...
> >
> >
> > 
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Starting a dormant Cat truck v8 diesel

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I would suspect the fuel filters unless you KNOW they have been  
changed recently.  They also act as water collectors and can crap up  
badly with little or no warning.


Fuel suppliers for large equipment are notorious for delivering bad  
fuel, too -- I've had to diagnose the contents a few times, including  
silicate (clay) dust that went through the filters and destroyed the  
engine at least once.


It can also take some cranking to get the IP to deliver fuel on those  
engines, again a well known issue.  Bad idea to ever let them lose  
prime.


Stanadyne injection pumps are also well known for solenoid failures --  
clicks by the valve itself it broken and won't open.


You should be able to prime the filters with the hand pump, verify  
that it pumps with the filters off.  It works like an MB with a  
pressure relief valve and a fuel return, although I don't know if the  
relief is in the pump or if there is a fuel return to the tank.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] do we still answer car questions?

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The check valves in the pump can fail too, a cheaper fix if you can  
still find them.


Primary cause in my experience is a crack in the section of the line  
where all the vacuum lines attach.  You have to replace the whole  
line, the center section is not available separately.  This may  
restore other vacuum accessories, too.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Mercedes Benz 280e

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

If you need a second one for parts (if there are any left that are  
good) I have one that needs a new home soon -- like tomorrow.


Spare engine and transmission.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] UPS vs IPS

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

And then your computer takes the 110-240V 50-60Hz and turns it back into
DC...

A laptop needs a DC input, maybe some efficiency could be gained by simply
converting the AC from the generator to DC once, and then only consuming DC
on that circuit?  Lights and water heaters don't care about frequency,
batteries charge fine on DC last I checked.

Are there PC power supplies that accept DC power as well as AC power?

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Terminology.  That's not an _inverter_!  Converting AC to DC is
> easy, cheap, and common.
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I missed LT Don's msg. - please re-post.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yea, Lt Wonko only turns up when he needs something.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wow!  Another voice from the past!
> >
> > Zoltan and Lt Wonko both surfacing within 24 hours!   Is there some
> strange planetary alignment?  High tide?   Alien Invasion?
> >
> > Welcome back!
> >
> >
> >> He certainly is on crack.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, but it has a spare tire!!!
> >>>
> >>> So do I!  Not worth too much at the bank... :-)
> >> > -- Jim
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[MBZ] OT: Tropical storm bearing down on Alaska!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I had no idea.

Tropical storm bearing down on Alaska
By
Becky Bohrer

JUNEAU, Alaska (AP) — Parts of the nation's northernmost state are bracing
for heavy rains and strong winds from the remnants of Hurricane Oho.

Tropical storm conditions are expected to combine with a low-pressure
system to bring potentially 2 to 6 inches of rain to southeast Alaska
through Friday, according to weather officials.

The expected tropical system will be the latest unusual weather event to
hit Alaska in 2015: sparse snowfall pushed the start of the Iditarod
sled-dog race 400 miles to the north; dry conditions fueled one of Alaska's
worst fire seasons; but soggy weather in Juneau made for an especially wet
summer.

Last year, Juneau, which is in a rainforest, had its wettest summer on
record, with more than 24 inches of rain. This summer came in a close
second.
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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

He did not post as Lt. Don or Wacko, he used his real name which was new 
to me.


--R



On 10/9/15 10:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I missed LT Don's msg. - please re-post.

On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yea, Lt Wonko only turns up when he needs something.

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 9, 2015, at 7:40 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Wow!  Another voice from the past!

Zoltan and Lt Wonko both surfacing within 24 hours!   Is there some

strange planetary alignment?  High tide?   Alien Invasion?

Welcome back!



He certainly is on crack.

On Thu, Oct 8, 2015 at 10:02 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Yes, but it has a spare tire!!!

So do I!  Not worth too much at the bank... :-)
-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting said 
parts from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable 
arrangement, not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and down.


--R



On 10/8/15 10:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

A couple years ago Rich and I went to a salvage yard close to his compound, and 
dragged out a couple piles of MB parts.

Tonight I made time to investigate a popping noise that the White Whale 
(124.193) was making in the driver's door when closing the window.  Regulator 
had metal fatigue failure, it came out in pieces. Rats!

I recalled that Rich had removed a couple regulators from a 124 that I was 
taking various bits from and added them to my pile on that day, so I dug 
through the stash and there it was, exactly what I needed.

Thanks Rich!  I probably would not have snagged those, sure glad you did.



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Re: [MBZ] This guy is on crack

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 9, 2015 at 10:45 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I missed LT Don's msg. - please re-post.




Don Wills, having trouble with brake booster and engine shutoff on his 240D. 
There were multiple messages last night. 

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] Rich saves my bacon

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On October 9, 2015 at 10:55 AM Rich Thomas via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I will take the complement but only vaguely remember extracting said 
> parts from said vehicle.  i do recall they used some sort of cable 
> arrangement, not a mechanical linkage, to run the window up and down.

My W140 has that arrangement. As the window finished closing, the upper pulley 
broke in half with a loud bang that made me fear the glass had broken. 
Fortunately the window stayed fully closed. 
Unfortunately, I opened it a few days later without having a spare regulator
on hand. When the upper pulley is broken, the lower cable can pull it open
but it isn't going to close again, even if you raise the glass by hand while
somebody else taps the button. 
A comment in a regulator replacement thread at Benzworld recommends replacing
the regulator, closing the window, and never opening the rear windows again. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Starting a dormant Cat truck v8 diesel

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We got a really bad dose of water delivered into the snowmobile trail groomers 
once last winter. The supplier tried to say that "All diesel engines have water 
problems". I couldn't help myself and replied with "Bullshit." he said "What do 
you know about diesel engines?" I just pointed at the Jetta. He shut up and 
that delivery of fuel was credited to our account.
-Curt

  From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Peter Frederick  
 Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Starting a dormant Cat truck v8 diesel
   
I would suspect the fuel filters unless you KNOW they have been  
changed recently.  They also act as water collectors and can crap up  
badly with little or no warning.

Fuel suppliers for large equipment are notorious for delivering bad  
fuel, too -- I've had to diagnose the contents a few times, including  
silicate (clay) dust that went through the filters and destroyed the  
engine at least once.

It can also take some cranking to get the IP to deliver fuel on those  
engines, again a well known issue.  Bad idea to ever let them lose  
prime.

Stanadyne injection pumps are also well known for solenoid failures --  
clicks by the valve itself it broken and won't open.

You should be able to prime the filters with the hand pump, verify  
that it pumps with the filters off.  It works like an MB with a  
pressure relief valve and a fuel return, although I don't know if the  
relief is in the pump or if there is a fuel return to the tank.

Peter



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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Golf keys

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Good to know this works, I only have one key for mine and would really  
like a remote for the hatch -- VW in their infinite wisdom requires a  
key or remote or inside switch to open the hatch EVERY TIME, which is  
a pain.


I'm running about 45 mpg at the moment, suspect either a bad wheel  
bearing or a damaged wheel -- I will replace the 18" wheels with  
factory 15s when I need new tires, these things ride like they are  
solid -- and I have 17 or 21 stops on the way to work every day


I'll be heading to St. Louis on the 24th for my great niece's second  
birthday so I'll find out if it's better on the open interstate.   
Maybe not, once you get over 65 mph the milage drops on diesels.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Renewable energy costs catching up with fossil fuel

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 08/10/2015 5:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

RB wrote:

My insurance company pretty much frowns on things like wood stoves anymore
so I don't have a whole lot of choice.

I totally agree.
However, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Stuff can be created to manage these issues.  There were people in
your neck of the woods a century back.
mao

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But back then, they likely had no insurance and relied upon their 
neighbors to help them rebuild in the event of a fire.


I think insurance for a wood stove is available but it is much more 
expensive so that sort of defeats some of the purpose.


I would like to have a wood stove as just a backup in the event of power 
failure but am not all that inclined to pay a lot more for something 
that I may never use.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Golf keys

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Mine seems happiest between 60 and 75mph for best mpg. After 75 it seems to 
drop off quickly, that was my experience with the Jetta also.
I agree the hatch is a pain.
I got my key from fixmyvw.com, I also ordered the center armrest hinge repair 
kit which is super easy to fix. Still need to order a replacement set fold 
latch for the driver's side back seat.The VAG Tacho I used last night came from 
sidewinderkey.com, I guess you can get a kit with the key and the VAGTacho 
cheap...
-Curt


  From: Peter Frederick 
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Friday, October 9, 2015 11:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Golf keys
   
Good to know this works, I only have one key for mine and would really  
like a remote for the hatch -- VW in their infinite wisdom requires a  
key or remote or inside switch to open the hatch EVERY TIME, which is  
a pain.

I'm running about 45 mpg at the moment, suspect either a bad wheel  
bearing or a damaged wheel -- I will replace the 18" wheels with  
factory 15s when I need new tires, these things ride like they are  
solid -- and I have 17 or 21 stops on the way to work every day

I'll be heading to St. Louis on the 24th for my great niece's second  
birthday so I'll find out if it's better on the open interstate.  
Maybe not, once you get over 65 mph the milage drops on diesels.

Peter




  
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