date:20170707

I saw another Okie license plate on a car today.  Some new style with 
some wimpy blue color in the background.  No idea what it was supposed 
to be.
  No Injun!  No native Merkun, no indigenous people art.  Just some 
weenie meaningless design



Y'all should be ashamed!

Do the OU weenies and snowflakes run the state now?

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Re: [MBZ] anyone tried this setup

I don't know what the mounting is on the Sanden, or anything about that 
compressor.  I'd try to adapt a MB Nippondenso if I had one to try.  
Another good altermative is to pick a compressor from a very popular 
car.  Impala, malibu, taurus/500/taurus/whatever it is now, or asian big 
sellers.  I found one that used a ND very similar to the MB ND.  I had 
to change the clutch to fit it to MB (serp belt system)  I think I got 
it off a hondog.


Since you will be making a custom set of hoses anyway, the port 
configuration does not matter.  Just take the compressor and hard lines 
from the donor, cut off the old hoses, then get what you need made up at 
a hose shop.




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Re: [MBZ] 15%


  Ayeup! 


G Mann via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 9:49 PM
I'm sure the problem can be fixed with a law that limits fuel tank size to
10 pints and special lock outs to prevent rapid re-fill. Along with a
special waiting period to buy fuel, and of course, a 90% tax on each pint
purchased...
Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 9:42 PM
And clearly someone who is on the no-fly list should not be permitted 
to drive. No sales to no-flyers, no rentals to no-flyers. I'm sure 
that will prevent anyone from mowing down groups of people on bridges 
and such.


Oh, and perhaps we should also have a law against stealing such 
vehicles. Oh wait...I guess we already have such laws. But they steal 
them anyway, maybe those laws don't work as well as we'd like.


Greg


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Re: [MBZ] 15%


Particularly if they are a congresscritter!

Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

And clearly someone who is on the no-fly list should not be permitted to drive. 
No sales to no-flyers, no rentals to no-flyers.



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Re: [MBZ] 15%

2017-07-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

I'm sure the problem can be fixed with a law that limits fuel tank size to
10 pints and special lock outs to prevent rapid re-fill. Along with a
special waiting period to buy fuel, and of course, a 90% tax on each pint
purchased...


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On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And clearly someone who is on the no-fly list should not be permitted to
> drive. No sales to no-flyers, no rentals to no-flyers. I'm sure that will
> prevent anyone from mowing down groups of people on bridges and such.
>
> Oh, and perhaps we should also have a law against stealing such vehicles.
> Oh wait...I guess we already have such laws. But they steal them anyway,
> maybe those laws don't work as well as we'd like.
>
> Greg
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curley
> McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 7:21 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Curley McLain
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] 15%
>
> Andrew is exactly right!  We need more car control laws!  No Car show
> loophole!  Universal background checks for all car buyers!  Federally
> licensed stealers, and a new cabinet agency to watch over all the car
> sales, registrations and stealers!
> No cars for felons, and certainly not trucks!  Trucks with extra capacity
> are Ugly and Scary!!  No black trucks should be sold!  They are evil!  Most
> killings are caused by black trucks and black cars!  Ban the cars and
> trucks that are ugly and scary!
>
> More car control laws!  More control laws for long trucks!
>
> > G Mann via Mercedes  July 7, 2017 at
> > 8:13 PM If we are going to do a comparison of people shot vs traffic
> > fatalities, I believe a critical question needs answered.
> >
> > How many drivers in those traffic incidents deliberately and with
> > wilful intent aimed the car so it would strike the selected to be
> > deceased victim to inflict deadly harm upon them?
> >
> > Apples to Apples, Oranges to Oranges 
> >
> > [Privately, I do agree that a large majority of folks driving should
> > be subject to complete background checks prior to being allowed to
> > purchase a car, however... ;)) ]
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 15%

2017-07-07 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

And clearly someone who is on the no-fly list should not be permitted to drive. 
No sales to no-flyers, no rentals to no-flyers. I'm sure that will prevent 
anyone from mowing down groups of people on bridges and such.

Oh, and perhaps we should also have a law against stealing such vehicles. Oh 
wait...I guess we already have such laws. But they steal them anyway, maybe 
those laws don't work as well as we'd like.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curley 
McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 7:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 15%

Andrew is exactly right!  We need more car control laws!  No Car show loophole! 
 Universal background checks for all car buyers!  Federally licensed stealers, 
and a new cabinet agency to watch over all the car sales, registrations and 
stealers!
No cars for felons, and certainly not trucks!  Trucks with extra capacity are 
Ugly and Scary!!  No black trucks should be sold!  They are evil!  Most 
killings are caused by black trucks and black cars!  Ban the cars and trucks 
that are ugly and scary!

More car control laws!  More control laws for long trucks!

> G Mann via Mercedes  July 7, 2017 at 
> 8:13 PM If we are going to do a comparison of people shot vs traffic 
> fatalities, I believe a critical question needs answered.
>
> How many drivers in those traffic incidents deliberately and with 
> wilful intent aimed the car so it would strike the selected to be 
> deceased victim to inflict deadly harm upon them?
>
> Apples to Apples, Oranges to Oranges 
>
> [Privately, I do agree that a large majority of folks driving should 
> be subject to complete background checks prior to being allowed to 
> purchase a car, however... ;)) ]
>

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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

Ryerson is a major vendor.  Of the others, I'd pick the ones that have 
steel or metals in the name.  Palmetto state steel for example.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:45 PM
Anyone know where to buy the steel?
Curley McLain 
July 7, 2017 at 5:41 PM
316 Stainless?



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Re: [MBZ] 15%


OH!  OK Don is right

  We need more medical control laws!  No clinic loophole!  Universal 
background checks for all medical consumers!  Federally licensed 
clinics, hospitals, doctors, and a new cabinet agency to watch over all 
the medical facilities, professionals, registrations and prescriptions!
No medical services for felons!  hospitals with extra capacity are Ugly 
and Scary!!  No white uniforms should be sold!  They are evil!  Most 
killings are caused by people wearing white uniforms!  Ban the white 
uniforms that are ugly and scary!


More medical control laws!


OK Don via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 8:20 PM
The anti-gun crowd does not discriminate between intentional, self, or
others, accidental, etc., so why do it with cars? why no out cry over
traffic deaths? What about death by doctor or hospital - there are LOTS of
those . . .



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Re: [MBZ] 15%

2017-07-07 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes

THEY'LL TAKE AWAY MY CAR WHEN THEY PRY IT FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew is exactly right!  We need more car control laws!  No Car show
> loophole!  Universal background checks for all car buyers!  Federally
> licensed stealers, and a new cabinet agency to watch over all the car
> sales, registrations and stealers!
> No cars for felons, and certainly not trucks!  Trucks with extra capacity
> are Ugly and Scary!!  No black trucks should be sold!  They are evil!  Most
> killings are caused by black trucks and black cars!  Ban the cars and
> trucks that are ugly and scary!
>
> More car control laws!  More control laws for long trucks!
>
> G Mann via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 8:13 PM
>> If we are going to do a comparison of people shot vs traffic fatalities, I
>> believe a critical question needs answered.
>>
>> How many drivers in those traffic incidents deliberately and with wilful
>> intent aimed the car so it would strike the selected to be deceased victim
>> to inflict deadly harm upon them?
>>
>> Apples to Apples, Oranges to Oranges 
>>
>> [Privately, I do agree that a large majority of folks driving should be
>> subject to complete background checks prior to being allowed to purchase a
>> car, however... ;)) ]
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] 15%

Andrew is exactly right!  We need more car control laws!  No Car show 
loophole!  Universal background checks for all car buyers!  Federally 
licensed stealers, and a new cabinet agency to watch over all the car 
sales, registrations and stealers!
No cars for felons, and certainly not trucks!  Trucks with extra 
capacity are Ugly and Scary!!  No black trucks should be sold!  They are 
evil!  Most killings are caused by black trucks and black cars!  Ban the 
cars and trucks that are ugly and scary!


More car control laws!  More control laws for long trucks!


G Mann via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 8:13 PM
If we are going to do a comparison of people shot vs traffic fatalities, I
believe a critical question needs answered.

How many drivers in those traffic incidents deliberately and with wilful
intent aimed the car so it would strike the selected to be deceased victim
to inflict deadly harm upon them?

Apples to Apples, Oranges to Oranges 

[Privately, I do agree that a large majority of folks driving should be
subject to complete background checks prior to being allowed to purchase a
car, however... ;)) ]



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Re: [MBZ] 15%

2017-07-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

I concede to your logic, on those points Now I understand.

Living is, however, the leading cause of death.


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wrote:

> The anti-gun crowd does not discriminate between intentional, self, or
> others, accidental, etc., so why do it with cars? why no out cry over
> traffic deaths? What about death by doctor or hospital - there are LOTS of
> those . . .
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:13 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > If we are going to do a comparison of people shot vs traffic fatalities,
> I
> > believe a critical question needs answered.
> >
> > How many drivers in those traffic incidents deliberately and with wilful
> > intent aimed the car so it would strike the selected to be deceased
> victim
> > to inflict deadly harm upon them?
> >
> > Apples to Apples, Oranges to Oranges 
> >
> > [Privately, I do agree that a large majority of folks driving should be
> > subject to complete background checks prior to being allowed to purchase
> a
> > car, however... ;)) ]
> >
> >
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> > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:08 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > How many traffic fatalities over the same time period?
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > last weekend the batting average fell to .150
> > > >
> > > > An even 100 shot, only 15 fatalities.
> > > >
> > > > Can you imagine how the out of date media would try to whip up their
> > > > dwindling viewers/listeners if we lost 15 servicemen in a weekend?
> > > >
> > > > How many of you heard a word about the 100 people shot in one town in
> > the
> > > > USA over the weekend?
> > > >
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> > > --
> > > OK Don
> > >
> > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> > of
> > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> > >
> > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> > who
> > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence
> > > for themselves."
> > >
> > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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>
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
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Re: [MBZ] 15%

The anti-gun crowd does not discriminate between intentional, self, or
others, accidental, etc., so why do it with cars? why no out cry over
traffic deaths? What about death by doctor or hospital - there are LOTS of
those . . .

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:13 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If we are going to do a comparison of people shot vs traffic fatalities, I
> believe a critical question needs answered.
>
> How many drivers in those traffic incidents deliberately and with wilful
> intent aimed the car so it would strike the selected to be deceased victim
> to inflict deadly harm upon them?
>
> Apples to Apples, Oranges to Oranges 
>
> [Privately, I do agree that a large majority of folks driving should be
> subject to complete background checks prior to being allowed to purchase a
> car, however... ;)) ]
>
>
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> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:08 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > How many traffic fatalities over the same time period?
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > last weekend the batting average fell to .150
> > >
> > > An even 100 shot, only 15 fatalities.
> > >
> > > Can you imagine how the out of date media would try to whip up their
> > > dwindling viewers/listeners if we lost 15 servicemen in a weekend?
> > >
> > > How many of you heard a word about the 100 people shot in one town in
> the
> > > USA over the weekend?
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] has anyone tried this turned into R4 compressors should last for the life of the driver

2017-07-07 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes

I can tell you that there are chineese Sandens out there that are probably
just as bad as the imported R4s, so you might not gain much.

I have a few NOS Yorks from the 60s that I've been tinkering with... I
pulled apart one from a parts car and found them quite simple inside.
Rebuild kits are still available, so I'm going to rebuilt one myself and
use it when I add AC to the 250S I rebuilt earlier this year.

Jaime
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Re: [MBZ] 15%

2017-07-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes

If we are going to do a comparison of people shot vs traffic fatalities, I
believe a critical question needs answered.

How many drivers in those traffic incidents deliberately and with wilful
intent aimed the car so it would strike the selected to be deceased victim
to inflict deadly harm upon them?

Apples to Apples, Oranges to Oranges 

[Privately, I do agree that a large majority of folks driving should be
subject to complete background checks prior to being allowed to purchase a
car, however... ;)) ]




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On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 3:08 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> How many traffic fatalities over the same time period?
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > last weekend the batting average fell to .150
> >
> > An even 100 shot, only 15 fatalities.
> >
> > Can you imagine how the out of date media would try to whip up their
> > dwindling viewers/listeners if we lost 15 servicemen in a weekend?
> >
> > How many of you heard a word about the 100 people shot in one town in the
> > USA over the weekend?
> >
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>
>
> --
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>
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] It's a Nissan

Yup - our pick up has an 8 ft. bed, and holds 2000 pounds - wouldn't buy
one with less capacity . . .

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 7:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You might remember that we had a Ranger up until we bought our Dodge Ram
> in 2014. The kooky thing is that the Dodge with the Hemi V8 reliably gets
> better mileage than the Ranger v6 did. It's also more comfortable, carries
> more and tows better and has seating for 6. I don't see us having a smaller
> truck again.The Dodge will go through deeper mud holes than the Ranger
> would although it won't fit in many of the places the Ranger could sneak
> into...
> Curt
>
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>   On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   I don't think so.  But perhaps the
> enlargement of all vehicles is
> related to:  1. increased safety BS required by laws.  2.  interest by
> buyer/decision maker (female) of new vehicles (in larger vehicles.  This
> is why the cute little RAV/CRV/etc. is now almost as big as a grand
> caravan.
>
> Regardless, There would be a demand for a small truck.  But the madison
> Ave bowties spoke, and DC/MBUSA listened.  Do without, fool!  THEY said
> you DON'T want one!
> > Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> > July 7, 2017 at 3:34 PM
> >
> >
> > "The company believes the pickup is too small for American shoppers."
> >
> > For the same reason that Ford Rangers have ridiculous resale values?
> >
> > I agree that Mercedes shouldn't go chasing the abandoned market of
> > small truck users who are still mourning their rusted out LUVs, but
> > somebody ought to be making trucks for those who don't want a SUV but
> > don't need a F150 either.
> > LUVs, Couriers and the like were immensely popular in the 1970s, and
> > the reason for their existence hasn't gone away, has it?
> >
> > Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

You'll want to meet your local steel supplier. I met mine last spring, fun 
place. Call ahead they probably don't do much walk up sales.POR15 chassis 
paint...
Curt

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  On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:45 PM, Max Dillon via 
Mercedes wrote:   Anyone know where to buy the steel?
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On July 7, 2017 6:41:24 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>316 Stainless?
>
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM
>> I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and
>
>> such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only 
>> thing that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be 
>> hot-dipped galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard 
>> corrosion.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:16 PM
>> Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a 
>> trailer you
>> will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
>> saving money - - -
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>
>>
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM
>> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat
>trailer.
>> The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer
>from
>> 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it
>has
>> pretty much reached the end of its life.
>> -
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>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] It's a Nissan

You might remember that we had a Ranger up until we bought our Dodge Ram in 
2014. The kooky thing is that the Dodge with the Hemi V8 reliably gets better 
mileage than the Ranger v6 did. It's also more comfortable, carries more and 
tows better and has seating for 6. I don't see us having a smaller truck 
again.The Dodge will go through deeper mud holes than the Ranger would although 
it won't fit in many of the places the Ranger could sneak into...
Curt

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  On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:33 PM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   I don't think so.  But perhaps the 
enlargement of all vehicles is 
related to:  1. increased safety BS required by laws.  2.  interest by 
buyer/decision maker (female) of new vehicles (in larger vehicles.  This 
is why the cute little RAV/CRV/etc. is now almost as big as a grand caravan.

Regardless, There would be a demand for a small truck.  But the madison 
Ave bowties spoke, and DC/MBUSA listened.  Do without, fool!  THEY said 
you DON'T want one!
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
> July 7, 2017 at 3:34 PM
>
>
> "The company believes the pickup is too small for American shoppers."
>
> For the same reason that Ford Rangers have ridiculous resale values?
>
> I agree that Mercedes shouldn't go chasing the abandoned market of 
> small truck users who are still mourning their rusted out LUVs, but 
> somebody ought to be making trucks for those who don't want a SUV but 
> don't need a F150 either.
> LUVs, Couriers and the like were immensely popular in the 1970s, and 
> the reason for their existence hasn't gone away, has it?
>
> Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

> On July 7, 2017 at 6:53 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That sounds intriguing, certainly unique!

You can finish it in clear UV resistant epoxy. 
The UV resistant part is vital, I made a wooden rack to put an ice chest in 
front of the trampoline on my Hobie 16, the regular epoxy I used didn't last 
one summer, would have been much better off with ordinary varnish. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

Max there is a small supplier on Johns Island that has channel and box 
stuff, and I think there is an outfit called Charleston Supply or some 
such that has it. In any case just use the googs and you should find one 
easy enough.  I have seen some of these places around in NChuck, can't 
remember where but they around.


--FT


On 7/7/17 6:45 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Anyone know where to buy the steel?


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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

Or better yet, start with teak 2x6.  I have one, but don't remember how 
long it is.  at least 16' I think.


Ripped and laminated?  Just get the Navy to let you chuck a couple 
treated 20' 2x6s in a 8" or larger steam pipe, cap it off, apply steam.  
Next morning they will be like cooked spaghetti.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:51 PM
Somewhere I have plans for a wooden boat trailer (and matching 
sailboat) in old Popular Science magazines. You were expected to buy 
proper plans of course, but a guy could make do for the trailer 
anyways from the sketches in the magazine article. IIRC, it had bent 
wood rails, spaced at leaf spring width, then bending in towards the 
hitch at the front.


IIRC, your boat is pretty light.
2x6 ripped thin enough to bend and laminate are probably adequate, 2x8 
would have plenty of margin of safety I'd think.

You'd likely need new springs, galvanized axle, etc, but I bet the entire
package would be quite cheap.

Mitch.



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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

Somewhere I have plans for a wooden boat trailer (and matching sailboat) in old 
Popular Science magazines. You were expected to buy proper plans of course, but 
a guy could make do for the trailer anyways from the sketches in the magazine 
article. IIRC, it had bent wood rails, spaced at leaf spring width, then 
bending in towards the hitch at the front. 

IIRC, your boat is pretty light. 
2x6 ripped thin enough to bend and laminate are probably adequate, 2x8 would 
have plenty of margin of safety I'd think. 
You'd likely need new springs, galvanized axle, etc, but I bet the entire
package would be quite cheap. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

Ripped and laminated?  Just get the Navy to let you chuck a couple 
treated 20' 2x6s in a 8" or larger steam pipe, cap it off, apply steam.  
Next morning they will be like cooked spaghetti.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:51 PM
Somewhere I have plans for a wooden boat trailer (and matching 
sailboat) in old Popular Science magazines. You were expected to buy 
proper plans of course, but a guy could make do for the trailer 
anyways from the sketches in the magazine article. IIRC, it had bent 
wood rails, spaced at leaf spring width, then bending in towards the 
hitch at the front.


IIRC, your boat is pretty light.
2x6 ripped thin enough to bend and laminate are probably adequate, 2x8 
would have plenty of margin of safety I'd think.

You'd likely need new springs, galvanized axle, etc, but I bet the entire
package would be quite cheap.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?


> On July 7, 2017 at 6:45 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Anyone know where to buy the steel?


https://www.yellowpages.com/charleston-sc/steel-suppliers

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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

2017-07-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

That sounds intriguing, certainly unique!
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On July 7, 2017 6:51:04 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Somewhere I have plans for a wooden boat trailer (and matching
>sailboat) in old Popular Science magazines. You were expected to buy
>proper plans of course, but a guy could make do for the trailer anyways
>from the sketches in the magazine article. IIRC, it had bent wood
>rails, spaced at leaf spring width, then bending in towards the hitch
>at the front. 
>
>IIRC, your boat is pretty light. 
>2x6 ripped thin enough to bend and laminate are probably adequate, 2x8
>would have plenty of margin of safety I'd think. 
>You'd likely need new springs, galvanized axle, etc, but I bet the
>entire
>package would be quite cheap. 
>
>Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

Uh, yeah, from your steel distributor.  Stainless may not cost much 
different than carbon steel and primer, paint etc.   No idea who your 
distributors are out there.  They are generally called [family name] 
steel  such as Jorgensen steel etc.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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Anyone know where to buy the steel?


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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

2017-07-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Anyone know where to buy the steel?
-- 
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Charleston SC
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'95 E300

On July 7, 2017 6:41:24 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>316 Stainless?
>
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM
>> I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and
>
>> such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only 
>> thing that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be 
>> hot-dipped galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard 
>> corrosion.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> OK Don via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:16 PM
>> Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a 
>> trailer you
>> will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
>> saving money - - -
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>
>>
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> July 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM
>> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat
>trailer.
>> The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer
>from
>> 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it
>has
>> pretty much reached the end of its life.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?


316 Stainless?


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM
I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and 
such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only 
thing that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be 
hot-dipped galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard 
corrosion.


--FT




OK Don via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:16 PM
Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a 
trailer you

will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
saving money - - -

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM
I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

Clean the metal, spray with Rustoleum, and when it final does rust out, you
get to build a new one, incorporating all you learned after using the first
one for years . . .

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:20 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and
> such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only thing
> that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be hot-dipped
> galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard corrosion.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 7/7/17 6:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a trailer
>> you
>> will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
>> saving money - - -
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
>>> The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer
>>> from
>>> 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
>>> pretty much reached the end of its life.
>>> -
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>>> Charleston SC
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> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

I bought a buzz box and my son and I rebuilt a boat trailer about 15 years ago. 
Used the frame and all new running gear. Repaired original frame. Has never 
come apart.

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 Date: 2017-07-07  5:03 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
 Cc: Meade Dillon  Subject: [MBZ] 
Am I crazy? 
I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
-
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Re: [MBZ] It's a Nissan

I don't think so.  But perhaps the enlargement of all vehicles is 
related to:  1. increased safety BS required by laws.  2.  interest by 
buyer/decision maker (female) of new vehicles (in larger vehicles.  This 
is why the cute little RAV/CRV/etc. is now almost as big as a grand caravan.


Regardless, There would be a demand for a small truck.  But the madison 
Ave bowties spoke, and DC/MBUSA listened.  Do without, fool!  THEY said 
you DON'T want one!

Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 3:34 PM


"The company believes the pickup is too small for American shoppers."

For the same reason that Ford Rangers have ridiculous resale values?

I agree that Mercedes shouldn't go chasing the abandoned market of 
small truck users who are still mourning their rusted out LUVs, but 
somebody ought to be making trucks for those who don't want a SUV but 
don't need a F150 either.
LUVs, Couriers and the like were immensely popular in the 1970s, and 
the reason for their existence hasn't gone away, has it?


Mitch.


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[MBZ] has anyone tried this turned into R4 compressors should last for the life of the driver

2017-07-07 Thread Rick Hawkins via Mercedes

Folks

i was asking if anyone had put a sanden on a 123  car?

instead you told me that R4 compressors SHOULD last

i have gone through too many …. flushed and filled with mineral oil and r12 
refrigerant

upside down or right side up, they are a radial compressor

i have heard tales of that but no hard evidence

all new imported compressors …. so, back to the original question …. has anyone 
done a sanden conversion on a 123

i am considering it

actually, how many of you have a 123 on the road with cold a/c?


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] It's back, poos really needs this

Seat belts attach to part that has been cutoff.Got to wonder if any stiffeners 
have been added to the body.Wonder how well the doors work.Doubt one could get 
a safety certificate here so no licence plate.


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[MBZ] It's back, poos really needs this 


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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

I won't be doing much beyond painting it for corrosion control.  I did see
in the latest Eastwood flyer a rig for media blasting that uses a pressure
washer, so no dust flying around.  That would be pretty cool, maybe I could
do that in my driveway every several years and repaint the trailer to keep
the corrosion in check.

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and
> such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only thing
> that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be hot-dipped
> galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard corrosion.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

Well, keeping cost down is one of the drivers, so I'll have to see about
that part.  The other major driver is an excuse to buy a welder!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 6:16 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a trailer you
> will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
> saving money - - -
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 5:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat
> trailer.
> > The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer
> from
> > 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
> > pretty much reached the end of its life.
>
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Re: [MBZ] It's back, poos really needs this

Old merkin sedans probably had a frame. 

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Re: [MBZ] It's back, poos really needs this 
Looks rigid to me.

I saw in the past in Aruba a bunch of old merkin sedans that had the 
roofs cut off to make open-air tourers. I guess they worked OK there, 
the few roads were nice and the only issue was the rains but they were 
so clapped out it didn't matter.  You could see them twist though.

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Am I crazy?

I'm sure you could do it, easy enough to get the metal and wheels and 
such, and a welder and cutoff saw are about all you need.  The only 
thing that would be a concern is that most trailers seem to be 
hot-dipped galvanized, not sure how you would do that to retard corrosion.


--FT


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Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a trailer you
will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
saving money - - -

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I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
-
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Go for it! You'll learn new skills, have fun, and end up with a trailer you
will be proud of. Might not save any money, but life isn't only about
saving money - - -

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> I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
> The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
> 1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
> pretty much reached the end of its life.
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Re: [MBZ] Motor mounts

I'm done with aftermarket, I'll only go dealer.  I've not had very long
life with aftermarket.  The last set of Lemforder from Rusty only lasted 3
or 5 years I think.

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Re: [MBZ] 15%

How many traffic fatalities over the same time period?

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> last weekend the batting average fell to .150
>
> An even 100 shot, only 15 fatalities.
>
> Can you imagine how the out of date media would try to whip up their
> dwindling viewers/listeners if we lost 15 servicemen in a weekend?
>
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> USA over the weekend?
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[MBZ] Am I crazy?

I've been thinking about buying a welder and building my own boat trailer.
The trailer for my sailboat is, I believe, the original steel trailer from
1973, and after dipping it in salt water for the last ten years, it has
pretty much reached the end of its life.
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Re: [MBZ] It's a Nissan

2017-07-07 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

'Doubt I'll be getting one.  'Gonna let y'all fawn over 'em.

Wilt

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's a Nissan

On July 7, 2017 at 11:05 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

But we in the US won't get it anyway

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/07/mercedes-benz-s-first-pickup-truck-is-debuting-this-month.html?

"The company believes the pickup is too small for American shoppers."

For the same reason that Ford Rangers have ridiculous resale values?

I agree that Mercedes shouldn't go chasing the abandoned market of small 
truck users who are still mourning their rusted out LUVs, but somebody 
ought to be making trucks for those who don't want a SUV but don't need a 
F150 either.
LUVs, Couriers and the like were immensely popular in the 1970s, and the 
reason for their existence hasn't gone away, has it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] It's back, poos really needs this


Looks rigid to me.

I saw in the past in Aruba a bunch of old merkin sedans that had the 
roofs cut off to make open-air tourers. I guess they worked OK there, 
the few roads were nice and the only issue was the rains but they were 
so clapped out it didn't matter.  You could see them twist though.


--FT


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http://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6209176383.html

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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?


Tamate del merde del gato

--FT


On 7/7/17 5:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On July 7, 2017 at 5:19 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:


More like deer that ate something that cause some softer binding.


Jalapenos.

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Re: [MBZ] anyone tried this setup

I was reading up on this and one vendor had a tutorial on how to take 
the front of the compressor and rotate it 180deg to make it work on the 
MB.  Some of the vendors seem to sell them already arranged properly.


--FT


On 7/7/17 4:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Yes some are using the regular GM version which gets installed upside down on 
MB which leads to oil starvation I believe. The proper mb version is rotated 
and they used to have an x on the back or bottom iirc.

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On Jul 7, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:

I never had a problem with the R4 compressors on W126 cars myself.

 From what I have seen it seems like the unique arrangement of the R4 used on 
MBs tends to cause problems as people buy generic compressors and they end up 
failing because they're not set up correctly. I don't recall the details, and 
I'm sure someone here will address it, but if you don't use one configured for 
the application they're prone to fail.

-D


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wrote:

Folks

have any of you ever tried this setup on a 123?

i am sick of replacing R4 compressors

i think they are getting worse

it is not cheap but would be worth it if a sanden lasted at least 6 years which 
i would expect at the least


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] anyone tried this setup


which setup? I think there are two.

Rick Hawkins via Mercedes wrote:

Folks

have any of you ever tried this setup on a 123?

i am sick of replacing R4 compressors

i think they are getting worse

it is not cheap but would be worth it if a sanden lasted at least 6 years which 
i would expect at the least


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] PS hose repair?

Who knows. Some are good some aren't give it a try and let us 
know. The name brand ones are probably made in China also. You 
takes your pick and you takes your chances.


Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Manfred wrote:

If you were going to get one then this might be the better choice. It does 4
more different hose sizes.


Okay, so it is okay to purchase China tools but not parts?
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] 15%

Andrew if you read that site carefully you'll find that those "shootings" 
include airsoft and bb guns...

Cury

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  On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:46 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes wrote:   31,000+ in 2017 alone.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> last weekend the batting average fell to .150
>
> An even 100 shot, only 15 fatalities.
>
> Can you imagine how the out of date media would try to whip up their
> dwindling viewers/listeners if we lost 15 servicemen in a weekend?
>
> How many of you heard a word about the 100 people shot in one town in the
> USA over the weekend?
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Re: [MBZ] 15%

2/3 of them suicides...
"Gun violence" my foot...

Mitch.
> On July 7, 2017 at 12:46 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 31,000+ in 2017 alone.
> 
> http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/
> 
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > last weekend the batting average fell to .150
> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?


> On July 7, 2017 at 5:19 PM MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> More like deer that ate something that cause some softer binding. 


Jalapenos.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Motor mounts

2017-07-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

Always safe with Lemförder.

-D

> On Jul 7, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What's the latest word on motor mounts? Need some for a 210. Importec has 
> lemforder listed as oem, and has rein and corteco
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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?

More like deer that ate something that cause some softer binding. 
You can see the more normal looking pellets in some places. Seen 
it like this around here on occasion.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Doesn't look at all like the bear poop I've seen. I'd figure that for a large 
dog.
Bear poop this time of year is mostly berries and is more like a pile than a 
log.
Curt

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normally traversed by deer and foxes.  Dimensions are 2"W X 4" L.  There
are bear across the river but no sightings around here (yet).  Could it be
something else?
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Re: [MBZ] New Ride

> On July 7, 2017 at 1:16 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> It is just ask the Mustang V8 I trashed the other day .

That sounds a lot like the week I bought my first (and last) new car.
What is it with mental defectives like us and our new acquisitions?

When I was 25, I bought a new fuel injected 2.2L Plymouth Horizon. 
Not much to look at, but it weighed 2100lb and had more "torks" than any other 
non-turbocharged hatchback. (the turbocharged Shelby GLH-S version of my 
chassis was out of this world for its day, I had the same engine minus the 
turbo, and the same 3.56:1 gearbox, I have no idea why they didn't put the 2.78 
in mine like the did the earlier carbureted cars)

A couple days after buying the car, I'm rolling down Main Street in Lansing, 
street all to myself. It's 4 lanes wide, I'm in the left lane which will become 
a left turn lane at Grand Avenue. As I'm waiting at the light a block before 
Grand, a RX-7 comes up behind me and moves over into the next lane. First 
generation, 12A engine. (rough equivalent of 190e 2.3 8 valve, the 13B RX-7 
GSL-SE would hold with a 2.3-16v until 60 or so, the events of the next few 
seconds might have been different if he'd had one of those)

When the light turned, I gave it more gas than I normally would, expecting the 
Mazda to try to change lanes in front of me and hit the brakes to turn onto 
Grand. When I heard the squealing tires from the next lane I dropped it to the 
floor. His tire smoking launch almost got his door up to my front bumper before 
my engine hit the power band. After that I just modulated the throttle to keep 
even with his front fender as he wound out that little Wankel. 

When we hit Grand, I braked as late as possible and turned left. 
He overshot the corner, backed up and turned left. Went by me about 60mph, his 
passenger flipping me the bird with his arm extended fully out the window.  

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 600 or best ofer (?)

2017-07-07 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes

Um?
4.2/5 · Repair 
Pal
Model:
 1992 Mercedes-Benz 
300-Class
MPG:
 20 city / 23 highway
Horsepower:
 148 hp
Engine:
 3.5 L 6-cylinder diesel
Dimensions:
 187-201″ L x 69-74″ W x 56-59″ H
Fuel tank 
capacity:
 18.5 gal
Wheelbase:
 110.2 to 119.7″



Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 07 July 2017 16:00
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Floyd Thursby
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: 600 or best ofer (?)

It is 1 better than all other SDs.  It goes to 6.

cylinders: *6 cylinders*

--FT
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[MBZ] Motor mounts

What's the latest word on motor mounts? Need some for a 210. Importec has 
lemforder listed as oem, and has rein and corteco

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Re: [MBZ] It's a Nissan

2017-07-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 07/07/2017 3:34 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On July 7, 2017 at 11:05 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
wrote:

But we in the US won't get it anyway

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/07/mercedes-benz-s-first-pickup-truck-is-debuting-this-month.html?

"The company believes the pickup is too small for American shoppers."

For the same reason that Ford Rangers have ridiculous resale values?

I agree that Mercedes shouldn't go chasing the abandoned market of small truck
users who are still mourning their rusted out LUVs, but somebody ought to be
making trucks for those who don't want a SUV but don't need a F150 either.
LUVs, Couriers and the like were immensely popular in the 1970s, and the reason
for their existence hasn't gone away, has it?

Mitch.

I wonder if some of the issue could be safety related? I doubt any of
the big car makers want to be known for creating unsafe vehicles. I seem
to recall that the smaller GM trucks of a few years back did not have
good safety records. Maybe it is more difficult to build in the safety
features that we have come to expect. Trucks tend to be full frame and
that may not provide the same crush ability as the smaller unibody cars.
Honda Ridgeline was the exception but Honda has now changed it too so
that it is more like a real truck.

I had a little Toyota pickup way back when - remember the ones that had
the turn signal mounted on the fenders - it was one of those. My father
had a Datsun pickup. We rode around in them back in the early 70's and
thought nothing of it but the thought makes me cringe now as I really
doubt they were very safe.

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Re: [MBZ] It's a Nissan

> On July 7, 2017 at 11:05 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> But we in the US won't get it anyway
> 
> http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/07/mercedes-benz-s-first-pickup-truck-is-debuting-this-month.html?

"The company believes the pickup is too small for American shoppers."

For the same reason that Ford Rangers have ridiculous resale values?

I agree that Mercedes shouldn't go chasing the abandoned market of small truck 
users who are still mourning their rusted out LUVs, but somebody ought to be 
making trucks for those who don't want a SUV but don't need a F150 either. 
LUVs, Couriers and the like were immensely popular in the 1970s, and the reason 
for their existence hasn't gone away, has it?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] anyone tried this setup

Yes some are using the regular GM version which gets installed upside down on 
MB which leads to oil starvation I believe. The proper mb version is rotated 
and they used to have an x on the back or bottom iirc.

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> On Jul 7, 2017, at 3:07 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I never had a problem with the R4 compressors on W126 cars myself.
> 
> From what I have seen it seems like the unique arrangement of the R4 used on 
> MBs tends to cause problems as people buy generic compressors and they end up 
> failing because they're not set up correctly. I don't recall the details, and 
> I'm sure someone here will address it, but if you don't use one configured 
> for the application they're prone to fail.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Rick Hawkins via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Folks
>> 
>> have any of you ever tried this setup on a 123?
>> 
>> i am sick of replacing R4 compressors
>> 
>> i think they are getting worse
>> 
>> it is not cheap but would be worth it if a sanden lasted at least 6 years 
>> which i would expect at the least
>> 
>> 
>> thanks,
>> 
>> xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] anyone tried this setup

2017-07-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes

I never had a problem with the R4 compressors on W126 cars myself.

>From what I have seen it seems like the unique arrangement of the R4 used on 
>MBs tends to cause problems as people buy generic compressors and they end up 
>failing because they're not set up correctly. I don't recall the details, and 
>I'm sure someone here will address it, but if you don't use one configured for 
>the application they're prone to fail.

-D

> On Jul 7, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Rick Hawkins via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Folks
> 
> have any of you ever tried this setup on a 123?
> 
> i am sick of replacing R4 compressors
> 
> i think they are getting worse
> 
> it is not cheap but would be worth it if a sanden lasted at least 6 years 
> which i would expect at the least
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 600 or best ofer (?)


It is 1 better than all other SDs.  It goes to 6.

cylinders: *6 cylinders*

--FT

On 7/7/17 3:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Would sure like to see what it looks like.

Sent from my iPhone


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wrote:

Cue music from "Nightmare on Elm Street".


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: nore...@craigslist.org 
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To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: 600 or best ofer


fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:


600 or best ofer

http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/6206729069.html
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Re: [MBZ] anyone tried this setup

Well I will say the used to anyway. 

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> On Jul 7, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> However, there may be a difference between "should" and "will".
> 
> 
> 
>> On 07/07/2017 2:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> A new and properly installed r4 should last a long time.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 7, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Rick Hawkins via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Folks
>>> 
>>> have any of you ever tried this setup on a 123?
>>> 
>>> i am sick of replacing R4 compressors
>>> 
>>> i think they are getting worse
>>> 
>>> it is not cheap but would be worth it if a sanden lasted at least 6 years 
>>> which i would expect at the least
>>> 
>>> 
>>> thanks,
>>> 
>>> xx rick
>>> Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] anyone tried this setup

2017-07-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes


However, there may be a difference between "should" and "will".



On 07/07/2017 2:40 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

A new and properly installed r4 should last a long time.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 7, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Rick Hawkins via Mercedes  
wrote:

Folks

have any of you ever tried this setup on a 123?

i am sick of replacing R4 compressors

i think they are getting worse

it is not cheap but would be worth it if a sanden lasted at least 6 years which 
i would expect at the least


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] anyone tried this setup

A new and properly installed r4 should last a long time. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2017, at 2:21 PM, Rick Hawkins via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Folks
> 
> have any of you ever tried this setup on a 123?
> 
> i am sick of replacing R4 compressors
> 
> i think they are getting worse
> 
> it is not cheap but would be worth it if a sanden lasted at least 6 years 
> which i would expect at the least
> 
> 
> thanks,
> 
> xx rick
> Rick Hawkins
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[MBZ] anyone tried this setup

2017-07-07 Thread Rick Hawkins via Mercedes

Folks

have any of you ever tried this setup on a 123?

i am sick of replacing R4 compressors

i think they are getting worse

it is not cheap but would be worth it if a sanden lasted at least 6 years which 
i would expect at the least


thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins
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Re: [MBZ] Fw: 600 or best ofer (?)

Would sure like to see what it looks like.

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> On Jul 7, 2017, at 2:06 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Cue music from "Nightmare on Elm Street".
> 
> 
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
> 
> 
> 
> From: nore...@craigslist.org 
> Sent: 07 July 2017 15:04
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> Subject: 600 or best ofer
> 
> 
> fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:
> 
> 
> 600 or best ofer
> 
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[MBZ] Fw: 600 or best ofer (?)

2017-07-07 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes

Cue music from "Nightmare on Elm Street".


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: nore...@craigslist.org 
Sent: 07 July 2017 15:04
To: fredh.s...@hotmail.com
Subject: 600 or best ofer


fredy4.s...@yahoo.com forwarded you this from craigslist:


600 or best ofer

http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/6206729069.html
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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?

That's because it came from the butt end of a DEER.  See earlier post.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 2:07 PM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> bear must be eating something non standard on the east end of the nation.
> does not look like bear scat from my hunting forays
>
> clay
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Found this in my neighbor's lawn within the local wildlife corridor
> > normally traversed by deer and foxes.  Dimensions are 2"W X 4" L.  There
> > are bear across the river but no sightings around here (yet).  Could it
> be
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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?

2017-07-07 Thread clay via Mercedes

bear must be eating something non standard on the east end of the nation.  does 
not look like bear scat from my hunting forays 

clay



> On Jul 6, 2017, at 7:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Found this in my neighbor's lawn within the local wildlife corridor
> normally traversed by deer and foxes.  Dimensions are 2"W X 4" L.  There
> are bear across the river but no sightings around here (yet).  Could it be
> something else?
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Re: [MBZ] Generic Mercedes $4k

2017-07-07 Thread clay via Mercedes

RUN

SCREAMING 

away from this ticking time bomb.


> On Jul 6, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hidden at the bottom I can see a description of what's wrong with it.
> Ask Clay for details:
> 2000 Mercedes CLS
> Miles:135,000
> S-430
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Re: [MBZ] New Ride

I assume it was not one of the new Mustangs with the coyote or voodoo engines.

Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Russ Williams via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-07-07  12:16 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Donald 
Snook , Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Russ Williams  Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ride 
It is just ask the Mustang V8 I trashed the other day .
4 lane as I pulled up next to him at the traffic signal he was in the 
right lane
with his left blinker on wanting to move over to my lane when the light 
changed.
While we sat there waiting for the light to cycle he kept looking over 
at me reving his
engine. Light changed we both floored it. Lets say he was astonished 
with the acceleration
the Old Fart in the MB showed. When I hit 60 I backed off and that's 
when he finally caught
up with me.

On Fri,7/7/17 10:15, Donald Snook wrote:
> That is nice!  Looks like the same color scheme as the one pictured on Motor 
> Trend's review of the car!
>
> http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mercedes-benz/e-class/2008/mercedes-benz-e320-bluetec-first-test/
>
> Dang! 400 lb of torque!  Compared to many diesels its got to be a rocket!
>
> Donald Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Russ Williams [mailto:rawil...@eatel.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 1:41 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] New Ride
>
> Blame Wilton for this.
> 2008 E320 Bluetech 143000 miles
> Not Black   Not White  Not Silver
> http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Raincloud27/library/
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Re: [MBZ] New Ride

The 2012 ML350 Bluetech has 440some torks and goes like hell if you jump 
on it.  Will chirp tars until the nannies get it under control.


--FT


On 7/7/17 1:16 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote:

It is just ask the Mustang V8 I trashed the other day .
4 lane as I pulled up next to him at the traffic signal he was in the 
right lane
with his left blinker on wanting to move over to my lane when the 
light changed.
While we sat there waiting for the light to cycle he kept looking over 
at me reving his
engine. Light changed we both floored it. Lets say he was astonished 
with the acceleration
the Old Fart in the MB showed. When I hit 60 I backed off and that's 
when he finally caught

up with me.

On Fri,7/7/17 10:15, Donald Snook wrote:
That is nice!  Looks like the same color scheme as the one pictured 
on Motor Trend's review of the car!


http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mercedes-benz/e-class/2008/mercedes-benz-e320-bluetec-first-test/ 



Dang! 400 lb of torque!  Compared to many diesels its got to be a 
rocket!


Donald Snook

-Original Message-
From: Russ Williams [mailto:rawil...@eatel.net]
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 1:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] New Ride

Blame Wilton for this.
2008 E320 Bluetech 143000 miles
Not Black   Not White  Not Silver
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Raincloud27/library/





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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] New Ride

2017-07-07 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes


It is just ask the Mustang V8 I trashed the other day .
4 lane as I pulled up next to him at the traffic signal he was in the 
right lane
with his left blinker on wanting to move over to my lane when the light 
changed.
While we sat there waiting for the light to cycle he kept looking over 
at me reving his
engine. Light changed we both floored it. Lets say he was astonished 
with the acceleration
the Old Fart in the MB showed. When I hit 60 I backed off and that's 
when he finally caught

up with me.

On Fri,7/7/17 10:15, Donald Snook wrote:

That is nice!  Looks like the same color scheme as the one pictured on Motor 
Trend's review of the car!

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mercedes-benz/e-class/2008/mercedes-benz-e320-bluetec-first-test/

Dang! 400 lb of torque!  Compared to many diesels its got to be a rocket!

Donald Snook

-Original Message-
From: Russ Williams [mailto:rawil...@eatel.net]
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 1:41 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] New Ride

Blame Wilton for this.
2008 E320 Bluetech 143000 miles
Not Black   Not White  Not Silver
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Raincloud27/library/





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Re: [MBZ] 15%

31,000+ in 2017 alone.

http://www.gunviolencearchive.org/

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> last weekend the batting average fell to .150
>
> An even 100 shot, only 15 fatalities.
>
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>
> How many of you heard a word about the 100 people shot in one town in the
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[MBZ] 15%


last weekend the batting average fell to .150

An even 100 shot, only 15 fatalities.

Can you imagine how the out of date media would try to whip up their 
dwindling viewers/listeners if we lost 15 servicemen in a weekend?


How many of you heard a word about the 100 people shot in one town in 
the USA over the weekend?


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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?

Trapper Andy will be serving bambiburgers and tasty bambisausage at the 
next ChowdahQ or congresscritterQ.



Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 10:11 AM
Maryland Wildlife emailed me the answer: "What you have is a clump of deer
scat. The size & shape of deer scat varies with their diet, water content,
etc."


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Re: [MBZ] It's a Nissan


This month?

"Ach!  Dat soon?"


(punch line from old joke about how the datsun got its name)


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
July 7, 2017 at 10:05 AM
But we in the US won't get it anyway

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/07/mercedes-benz-s-first-pickup-truck-is-debuting-this-month.html? 





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Re: [MBZ] PS hose repair?

2017-07-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes

Manfred wrote:
> If you were going to get one then this might be the better choice. It does 4
> more different hose sizes.

Okay, so it is okay to purchase China tools but not parts?
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

2017-07-07 Thread WILTON via Mercedes

Me, too.  I was hoping to not get another blackun after having the '91 
350SDL for many years.

Wilton

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From: "OK Don via Mercedes" 

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Cc: "OK Don" 
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2017 5:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Too hot to touch

Rattle can white paint all over it - - I hate black cars.

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 3:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Start looking for a white one to swap it for.

On 06/07/2017 2:32 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

At Lowe's coupla hours ago, outside of Schwartze (my black '07 E320CDI)
was so hot I could not touch it while moving from driver's door to trunk 
to

remove and assemble mobility scooter I keep there.  'Had to ask 2 men
nearby to help me move around left, rear corner of car.  I can usually 
hook
ends my fingers into the space between rear "windshield" and upper, 
forward

edge of the trunk lid to help me negotiate this corner.  'Called another
man nearby to help me retrace the route when I returned to  the car. 
'Have

never seen outside of a car so hot before - not even in Mojave Desert.

Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] New Ride

2017-07-07 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes

That is nice!  Looks like the same color scheme as the one pictured on Motor 
Trend's review of the car!  

http://www.motortrend.com/cars/mercedes-benz/e-class/2008/mercedes-benz-e320-bluetec-first-test/

Dang! 400 lb of torque!  Compared to many diesels its got to be a rocket! 

Donald Snook 

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Sent: Friday, July 07, 2017 1:41 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] New Ride

Blame Wilton for this.
2008 E320 Bluetech 143000 miles
Not Black   Not White  Not Silver
http://s38.photobucket.com/user/Raincloud27/library/



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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?

Maryland Wildlife emailed me the answer:  "What you have is a clump of deer
scat.  The size & shape of deer scat varies with their diet, water content,
etc."

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> So big?  The dimensions are 2" wide X 4" long.
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Looks more like raccoon excrement.
>>
>> Michael E. Esh
>>
>>
>> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Found this in my neighbor's lawn within the local wildlife corridor
>> > normally traversed by deer and foxes.  Dimensions are 2"W X 4" L.  There
>> > are bear across the river but no sightings around here (yet).  Could it
>> be
>> > something else?
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[MBZ] It's a Nissan


But we in the US won't get it anyway

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2017/07/mercedes-benz-s-first-pickup-truck-is-debuting-this-month.html?

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Re: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

That is true

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 7, 2017, at 8:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> The nonturbo coupes have the nicer burlwood dash instead of zebrano on the 
> turbo models
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> Looks nice but most people want the turbo version.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > Price creeping up.  Now $2750.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> No, it's some other guy on there.  I'm jaimekop, but I don't comment too
>> >> often
>> >>
>> >> Jaime
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:16 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> I'll bet this goes over $4k.  "Jaime" is our Jaime?
>> >>>
>> >>> -
>> >>> Max
>> >>> Charleston SC
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>>  And now, with a day to go on the auction, the seller is going to try to
>>  resolder the CC amp?
>> 
>>  I think people are holding off on bidding until the condition of the
>> >> car
>>  quits changing.
>> 
>> > On July 6, 2017 at 10:02 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla
>>  about
>> > how collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that
>> >> they
>> > lack visual appeal.
>> >
>> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/
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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?

So big?  The dimensions are 2" wide X 4" long.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:34 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Looks more like raccoon excrement.
>
> Michael E. Esh
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Found this in my neighbor's lawn within the local wildlife corridor
> > normally traversed by deer and foxes.  Dimensions are 2"W X 4" L.  There
> > are bear across the river but no sightings around here (yet).  Could it
> be
> > something else?
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Re: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

The nonturbo coupes have the nicer burlwood dash instead of zebrano on the
turbo models

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:41 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Looks nice but most people want the turbo version.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Price creeping up.  Now $2750.
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> No, it's some other guy on there.  I'm jaimekop, but I don't comment too
> >> often
> >>
> >> Jaime
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:16 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I'll bet this goes over $4k.  "Jaime" is our Jaime?
> >>>
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  And now, with a day to go on the auction, the seller is going to try
> to
>  resolder the CC amp?
> 
>  I think people are holding off on bidding until the condition of the
> >> car
>  quits changing.
> 
> > On July 6, 2017 at 10:02 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla
>  about
> > how collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that
> >> they
> > lack visual appeal.
> >
> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/
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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?

2017-07-07 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes

Looks more like raccoon excrement. 

Michael E. Esh


> On Jul 6, 2017, at 10:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Found this in my neighbor's lawn within the local wildlife corridor
> normally traversed by deer and foxes.  Dimensions are 2"W X 4" L.  There
> are bear across the river but no sightings around here (yet).  Could it be
> something else?
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Re: [MBZ] "Collectible" 1979 coupe attracts little interest on BAT

Looks nice but most people want the turbo version. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 6, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Price creeping up.  Now $2750.
> 
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> No, it's some other guy on there.  I'm jaimekop, but I don't comment too
>> often
>> 
>> Jaime
>> 
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 12:16 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'll bet this goes over $4k.  "Jaime" is our Jaime?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 And now, with a day to go on the auction, the seller is going to try to
 resolder the CC amp?
 
 I think people are holding off on bidding until the condition of the
>> car
 quits changing.
 
> On July 6, 2017 at 10:02 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> This W123 300CD lies at the bottom of the heap despite all the hoopla
 about
> how collectible this model is or would become.  My theory is that
>> they
> lack visual appeal.
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1979-mercedes-benz-300cd/
 
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Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

In that case you should properly restore and flip it

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:15 AM, Floyd Thursby 
wrote:

> Smoke Silver with Mushroom interior.  I really like the colors.
>
> --R
>
> On 7/6/17 10:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> Remind me - what color combo?
>
> On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> The one I bought for cheepcheep is not too bad, it runs fine but has some
>> neglect that could easy be sorted out with a bit of time and money.  But in
>> the meantime I will drive it and enjoy it.  I like the body style a lot.
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 7/6/17 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> W126 coupes are especially desirable these days. There is a subgroup of
>>> owners on Benz World that are pretty active, and they're always talking
>>> about values going up.
>>>
>>> They never appealed to me, but I can see why they're well liked. You get
>>> a 5.6 liter V8 in that car and it's a bit of a rocket ship with period
>>> luxury.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 WOW!  $12K for this with no a/c?   I guess BAT strikes again.  There is
 no way I would have predicted it to go that high!

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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?

No large dogs in the neighborhood.  Neighbor has 3 small kids.  I should
ask if one is missing.

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 9:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Is it in the woods?  Is the pope Catholic?
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 7/6/17 10:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Found this in my neighbor's lawn within the local wildlife corridor
>> normally traversed by deer and foxes.  Dimensions are 2"W X 4" L.  There
>> are bear across the river but no sightings around here (yet).  Could it be
>> something else?
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Re: [MBZ] PS hose repair?

If you were going to get one then this might be the better 
choice. It does 4 more different hose sizes.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/71500-Hydraulic-Hydra-Krimp-A-C-hose-crimping-tool-Air-Conditioner-Hose-Fitting-/232298245429?hash=item36160ded35:g:CL8AAOSwOgdYwPcg



Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
I forget where I was, but one place I used had a huge expensive looking hydraulic press, and dozens of collets of different sizes and number of segments to fit any imaginable crimp ferule. 
It had to have been either the Kubota dealer or the Cathey Company, probably CatheyCo, they made the oil cooler lines for my 300SD back in 2002. 


I figured FLAPS would use some handheld thing from Yellow Jacket or Mastercool, 
but never checked with them.
 
I just now checked Amazon, and the Mastercool tool looks like it probably does exactly the same job as the big hose machine I saw years ago. 
If you only need the sizes it's set up for, that thing could pay for itself in rehosing one car:

https://www.amazon.com/Mastercool-71550-Black-Manual-Crimper/dp/B000WBQ4U2

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Re: [MBZ] Surprisingly nice 1990 SEC W126 coupe on BAT

Smoke Silver with Mushroom interior.  I really like the colors.

--R

On 7/6/17 10:36 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Remind me - what color combo?

On Thu, Jul 6, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> wrote:

The one I bought for cheepcheep is not too bad, it runs fine but
has some neglect that could easy be sorted out with a bit of time
and money.  But in the meantime I will drive it and enjoy it.  I
like the body style a lot.

--FT

On 7/6/17 11:25 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

W126 coupes are especially desirable these days. There is a
subgroup of owners on Benz World that are pretty active, and
they're always talking about values going up.

They never appealed to me, but I can see why they're well
liked. You get a 5.6 liter V8 in that car and it's a bit of a
rocket ship with period luxury.

-D

On Jul 6, 2017, at 11:06 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes
> wrote:

WOW!  $12K for this with no a/c?   I guess BAT strikes
again.  There is no way I would have predicted it to go
that high!

Don Snook

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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?


Is it in the woods?  Is the pope Catholic?

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On 7/6/17 10:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Found this in my neighbor's lawn within the local wildlife corridor
normally traversed by deer and foxes.  Dimensions are 2"W X 4" L.  There
are bear across the river but no sightings around here (yet).  Could it be
something else?


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Re: [MBZ] Bear scat?