Re: [MBZ] I'm poor and trying to polish a turd

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> Mercedes 300TD Wagon
> http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/mercedes-300td-wagon/6297238530.html

Shoot.  Too far away...

Not an '85.  SLS works. Fresh battery and tires.  $1500 sounds
like my kinda car.

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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The short answer is they died in large numbers:  
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1900_Galveston_hurricane


> -Original Message-
> Dan said:
> The thing that really fascinates me about the severe weather stuff is how
> people dealt with it before we had all this technology. ... 



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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You've got two repairs identified, might also need glow plugs?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 8, 2017 12:03:02 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 18:53:07 + Donald Snook 
>wrote:
>
>> When I had that car, I could get 32 mpg pretty easily.  On one trip
>> where I tried to keep it at 70 mph for long stretches, I got as high
>as
>> 33.  
>
>Perhaps that's explained by weeping injector fuel return lines, very
>loud
>klatta and rough running when it's first started, and an injector (#4?)
>that is leaking at the joint in its body. In addition, when it's first
>started and running rough, it periodically puts white smoke out the
>tail
>pipe and some place on the right side of the engine.
>
>
>Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 18:53:07 + Donald Snook 
wrote:

> When I had that car, I could get 32 mpg pretty easily.  On one trip
> where I tried to keep it at 70 mph for long stretches, I got as high as
> 33.  

Perhaps that's explained by weeping injector fuel return lines, very loud
klatta and rough running when it's first started, and an injector (#4?)
that is leaking at the joint in its body. In addition, when it's first
started and running rough, it periodically puts white smoke out the tail
pipe and some place on the right side of the engine.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Window permissions problem -- Help!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 20:35:26 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I know I'm late to the party here, but what would be wrong with going
> in and applying more or less wide open (read and write) permissions to
> the whole volume?  Wouldn't that allow the files to be read by pretty
> much anyone/anything regardless of OS?

Yes, I had that thought, too.

In Cygwin, I can do it easily with a Unix command. That, however, doesn't
correct the problem with the Win OS itself not being able to read the
files.

Is there a way to do that in Win 7 that doesn't involve handling each
file and directory individually?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I'm poor and trying to polish a turd

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Ignore those extra wires under the hood, and that hi-powur hot air intake,
and the rust dent and the not-yet rusty dent, and the severally faded paint
and the real leather interior that is cracked and falling to pieces,
aftermarket radio from 20 years ago, and the host of other issues I could
not bring myself to photograph...  and it's a great deal!  Legendary!!

-
Max
Charleston SC

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

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>
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Max sez‎:

>‎Looking better and better for us here in >the Carolinas
>Dan-n-Manfred-Land, not so good...

Just watched the local (Chicago) news. 
They showed Irma going straight up Florida, with the entire state getting 
hurricane force winds. 

https://youtu.be/S7Fu-v490-c

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Re: [MBZ] OT Small engine trouble

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Curt,

I don't remember the brand, will check tomorrow.

-
Max
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On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:14 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> You aren't using Stabil are you? That could be your problem, over time it
> clots. If you put the bottle on the shelf and wait a couple years you'll
> see what I mean.
> Marine Stabil doesn't seem to do it but neither does Seafoam which is the
> only stabilizer I use now.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 7:47:46 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Grant and Curt.
>
> I have a can of Seafoam, I'll add some to the tank.  I only use non-ethanol
> gasoline, and add stabilizer.  Generator gets started and run a bit once a
> year, was last run for hurricane Mathew last fall.  It has a shut off, and
> I use it that.  Shut off the fuel, run it dry, and then I drain as much
> gasoline as possible out of the tank and use that in lawn mower, weed
> wacker, etc.
>
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looking better and better for us here in the Carolinas
Dan-n-Manfred-Land, not so good...

-
Max
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] I smoked too much blue meth from breaking bad and listed this car

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1976-Mercedes-Benz-300-D-/172855871705?hash=item283f0348d9:g:rWMAAOSwvTBZsW0F=mtr


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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I very much agree that education is absolutely key. Along with that
education has to come progressive responsibility, adjusted as is age
appropriate.

This is a big bone I have had to pick with the present education public
school system.. the lack of teaching responsibility for all actions.  That
along with the use of logic and reasoning, coupled with basic education
about the working of a firearm serves well in keeping the user or handler
as well as all around them safe.

Some of you may know that NRA does a school safety training program, taught
by NRA trained and qualified instructors called the "Eddie Eagle" program,
that teaches gun safety to children.

When I was actively involved, many of the instructors were also Law
Enforcement Officers who donated their personal time to do the programs.
Kids were almost always very interested and came away with useful skills.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Education is key at an early age. The thought process of gun locks and
> keeping guns locked up is not something I agree with. A locked up gun does
> no good when needed. Kids should be trained to leave them alone. All of our
> kids were trained in this at a very young age and there is a gun loaded and
> within reach at all times.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This is a good example of why I firmly believe, whether you’re a gun
> owner or not, that basic gun safety/handling be taught to every child at an
> early age.  While it wouldn’t prevent every accidental death, I believe it
> would reduce the number.
> >
> > My youngest son had a very close friend who was killed in this manner by
> another friend who knew nothing about guns and was playing around with one
> (I’m sketchy on the details as to where it came from.)  He pointed it at my
> son’s friend at close range and pulled the trigger, killing him instantly.
> Of course, he “thought" it was unloaded.  He knew nothing about gun
> handling and probably didn’t check it or know how to.  And he violated
> firearm Rule #1 - never point a gun at something you don’t intend to kill.
> >
> > My son feels guilty (unnecessarily) because had he been there he would
> have insisted on taking the gun and making sure it was unloaded, as well as
> schooling his friends on proper handling.  He was trained in an NRA
> approved course as a young man on how to handle a firearm.  We didn’t have
> any in the house at the time, but I still insisted he take the course for
> reasons just like this one.  Today he is a responsible gun owner and
> stores/handles his firearms in accordance with prescribed safety procedures.
> >
> > As a (responsible) gun owner, they should be secured in a safe or
> cabinet with trigger and/or cable locks, and ammo should always be stored
> in another location away from the guns in a secured (locked) container as
> well.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 07/09/2017 2:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Man-dies-from-gunshot-
> wound-in-Eagle-River-homicide-charges-to-be-filed-442667973.html
> >>>
> >>> Followup reports say that  the kid just bought the gun.  The two guys
> were friends.  the owner "unloaded" the gun and pointed it at his friend
> and pulled the trigger.  After he shot his friend, the guy tried to apply
> pressure and keep hom from bleeding out until the ambulance was there.
>  Dawin guy probably grew up on video games.  Never learned rule #1.
> >>>
> >>> Rule #1 of handling a gun:  Never point it at any person you don't
> intend to kill.
> >>>
> >>> Corollary to rule #1  Be Verdamt sure you never point a gun at a
> friend.
> >>>
> >>> ___
> >>
> >> AND make sure you know how to check to be sure it is not loaded.
> >>
> >> RB
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[MBZ] I'm poor and trying to polish a turd

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Mercedes 300TD Wagon
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Re: [MBZ] Preliminary Report on the 2002 ML320

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Sounds like me. Better than EPA hwy seems possible on the freeway, but locally 
I can't get it over 20mpg despite driving slower. Throw in a few cold starts 
and a stop sign every 3-5 miles and I'm stuck in the 19s.

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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not much for flint around here, I'd have to learn to saw agate which is a bit 
of a challenge.
I looked into flint knapping, doesn't seem so hard. The thing that made me a 
bit nervous is how particles get released when knapping and the potential for 
silicosis. At $2 each I'll just buy flints, they're hand knapped by somebody 
after all.

-Curt
 

On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 8:33:28 PM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 > Curt wrote:

> I ordered more flints

Aaakk!

A _real_ muzzle loader would knap his own from a chuck of flint
picked up in the creek. *smile*  Modern shooters...

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Re: [MBZ] Window permissions problem -- Help!

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I know I'm late to the party here, but what would be wrong with going in and 
applying more or less wide open (read and write) permissions to the whole 
volume?  Wouldn't that allow the files to be read by pretty much 
anyone/anything regardless of OS?

I've done this in Windows, Mac OS and various flavors of Linux when necessary 
due to problems with file or directory ownership.

-D

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 7:30 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> FYI - I'm running the latest Ubuntu on an HP Elitebook 2730p.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 02:33:02 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I don't personally know for sure if it will allow installation of Linux,
>> but I think I have seen a web page which says it's possible. Our laptop is
>> an HP Elitebook 8460p, product number QU892US#ABA.
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

> I ordered more flints

Aaakk!

A _real_ muzzle loader would knap his own from a chuck of flint
picked up in the creek. *smile*   Modern shooters...

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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

My shotguns are hardly personal protection devices, so keeping them locked 
isn't an issue.  We don't keep loaded guns in the house - house rules.  If you 
bring a firearm into the house that's fine, but the chamber will be cleared and 
the magazine unloaded if you do.

I totally understand your concerns and having a loaded weapon due to where you 
live.  That makes perfect sense to me. However, it's not a concern here so we 
don't keep loaded weapons at the ready.  I don't have a concealed carry permit, 
either, so I have no reason to keep a loaded weapon on my person.  If we lived 
in a rural or crime-ridden area, it would be different.

-D

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 7:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Education is key at an early age. The thought process of gun locks and 
> keeping guns locked up is not something I agree with. A locked up gun does no 
> good when needed. Kids should be trained to leave them alone. All of our kids 
> were trained in this at a very young age and there is a gun loaded and within 
> reach at all times. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Preliminary Report on the 2002 ML320

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

OK! So I drove the new (to me) ML320 from Vancouver WA to Endicott WA over the 
long weekend. The first couple of fills showed a fraction better than 20 mpg. 
At one point on the run east I clocked the tach at 2,800 rpm @ 75 mph. On the 
trip back I was forced to take WA hwy 14 instead of I-84 because of the 
wildfires. The run from Kennewick to Vancouver was mostly on the 2-lane hwy 14. 
My mileage on this run was 22.73 mpg. 

It appears (looking at the MB fora) that this fuel economy is typical of the 
MLs of that generation. I suppose that the 22+ mpg economy is a result of the 
slightly lower speeds on the 2-lane, probably an average of 60-65 mph.

The vehicle performed great and the fuel economy is acceptable to me. The trip 
from Endicott to Vancouver took about 7 hours, but was very comfortable.

As a side note, we went to Moscow ID so the daughter could do some shopping, 
and had lunch at CD's Smoke Pit. I've been to the famous and the secret great 
barbecue places in Kansas City, and CD's ribs were better!

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 6:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Preliminary Report on the 2002 ML320


> On August 26, 2017 at 9:11 PM Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> Could it be that Mitch's 350 actually gets better mileage?

What's funny is that Mitch's 3.7 (why isn't it a 370?) idles rough, a few times 
during yesterday's trip, very rough. It's bad enough I plugged in my OBDII 
before the trip to try to look for misfire codes, but it wouldn't communicate 
with the ML. 

If you want to see some high numbers, fill it up a half hour into your long 
trip and again before you cold start it. But my high number was mostly towing 
and included one cold start, and today's fillup was about 150 miles west of 
yesterday's fillup, and there was a noticeable west wind yesterday...

How many rpms are you turning? 
I think I was getting about 2400 on the tach at 62mph, about 50mph+ at 2000.
Oh, and my speedo was reading 61 at 60mph, and I never got around to verifying 
the odometer, which could throw the mpg off if it's not accurate. 
One thing I noticed was that rpms go up on slight hills, before it downshifts. 
I never understood how 'variable lock up' converters were supposed to save fuel 
over fully locking converters.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Small engine trouble

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Most of our gas stations have at least one pump of non-ethanol fuel. I use it 
exclusively in all of my small engine equipment.

And marine grade Sta-Bil, too.

-D

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On September 7, 2017 at 7:47 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I have a can of Seafoam, I'll add some to the tank.  I only use non-ethanol
>> gasoline, and add stabilizer.
> 
> 
> I was looking at 
> https://www.pure-gas.org/
> the other day, and was surprised to find sources all over the place. 
> 
> The last time I was there, the only valid place listed within 50 miles of me 
> was a tiny airfield, now there's over half a dozen, including my old propane 
> company. I called them up, and yep, they've got Pacific Pride 91 octane, zero 
> ethanol. So that's what's going in the generator and chain saws from now on. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Small engine trouble

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You aren't using Stabil are you? That could be your problem, over time it 
clots. If you put the bottle on the shelf and wait a couple years you'll see 
what I mean.Marine Stabil doesn't seem to do it but neither does Seafoam which 
is the only stabilizer I use now.
-Curt
 

On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 7:47:46 PM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Thanks Grant and Curt.

I have a can of Seafoam, I'll add some to the tank.  I only use non-ethanol
gasoline, and add stabilizer.  Generator gets started and run a bit once a
year, was last run for hurricane Mathew last fall.  It has a shut off, and
I use it that.  Shut off the fuel, run it dry, and then I drain as much
gasoline as possible out of the tank and use that in lawn mower, weed
wacker, etc.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Small engine trouble

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On September 7, 2017 at 7:47 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> I have a can of Seafoam, I'll add some to the tank.  I only use non-ethanol
> gasoline, and add stabilizer.


I was looking at 
https://www.pure-gas.org/
the other day, and was surprised to find sources all over the place. 

The last time I was there, the only valid place listed within 50 miles of me 
was a tiny airfield, now there's over half a dozen, including my old propane 
company. I called them up, and yep, they've got Pacific Pride 91 octane, zero 
ethanol. So that's what's going in the generator and chain saws from now on. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Cat 5 is 140 to infinity plus1.

On Sep 7, 2017 4:23 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes"  wrote:

> Yep, 'fraid so.
>
> W
>
> - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> To: "Mercedes List" 
> Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Irma
>
>
> True that.
>>
>> Looks like you folks in GA and the Carolinas better start battening down
>> the hatches as well.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:36 PM, WILTON via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> And sometimes a HEAVY, LONG bands can can sit over ya and dump water
>>> hours like the one in  Andrew last Oct that put 13" of water into my
>>> basement as my gutter downspouts and drains were over-taxed and sump pump
>>> died.
>>>
>>> W
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Small engine trouble

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Grant and Curt.

I have a can of Seafoam, I'll add some to the tank.  I only use non-ethanol
gasoline, and add stabilizer.  Generator gets started and run a bit once a
year, was last run for hurricane Mathew last fall.  It has a shut off, and
I use it that.  Shut off the fuel, run it dry, and then I drain as much
gasoline as possible out of the tank and use that in lawn mower, weed
wacker, etc.

-
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Needs some tlc

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Local dc dealer. What's it doing in Austin?

On Sep 7, 2017 8:15 AM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Needs a cutting torch, welder, new left rear fender and bumper, paint.
> --
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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Education is key at an early age. The thought process of gun locks and keeping 
guns locked up is not something I agree with. A locked up gun does no good when 
needed. Kids should be trained to leave them alone. All of our kids were 
trained in this at a very young age and there is a gun loaded and within reach 
at all times. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 2:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This is a good example of why I firmly believe, whether you’re a gun owner or 
> not, that basic gun safety/handling be taught to every child at an early age. 
>  While it wouldn’t prevent every accidental death, I believe it would reduce 
> the number.
> 
> My youngest son had a very close friend who was killed in this manner by 
> another friend who knew nothing about guns and was playing around with one 
> (I’m sketchy on the details as to where it came from.)  He pointed it at my 
> son’s friend at close range and pulled the trigger, killing him instantly.  
> Of course, he “thought" it was unloaded.  He knew nothing about gun handling 
> and probably didn’t check it or know how to.  And he violated firearm Rule #1 
> - never point a gun at something you don’t intend to kill.
> 
> My son feels guilty (unnecessarily) because had he been there he would have 
> insisted on taking the gun and making sure it was unloaded, as well as 
> schooling his friends on proper handling.  He was trained in an NRA approved 
> course as a young man on how to handle a firearm.  We didn’t have any in the 
> house at the time, but I still insisted he take the course for reasons just 
> like this one.  Today he is a responsible gun owner and stores/handles his 
> firearms in accordance with prescribed safety procedures.
> 
> As a (responsible) gun owner, they should be secured in a safe or cabinet 
> with trigger and/or cable locks, and ammo should always be stored in another 
> location away from the guns in a secured (locked) container as well.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 07/09/2017 2:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>>> http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Man-dies-from-gunshot-wound-in-Eagle-River-homicide-charges-to-be-filed-442667973.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Followup reports say that  the kid just bought the gun.  The two guys were 
>>> friends.  the owner "unloaded" the gun and pointed it at his friend and 
>>> pulled the trigger.  After he shot his friend, the guy tried to apply 
>>> pressure and keep hom from bleeding out until the ambulance was there.   
>>> Dawin guy probably grew up on video games.  Never learned rule #1.
>>> 
>>> Rule #1 of handling a gun:  Never point it at any person you don't intend 
>>> to kill.
>>> 
>>> Corollary to rule #1  Be Verdamt sure you never point a gun at a friend.
>>> 
>>> ___ 
>> 
>> AND make sure you know how to check to be sure it is not loaded.
>> 
>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Window permissions problem -- Help!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

FYI - I'm running the latest Ubuntu on an HP Elitebook 2730p.

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 02:33:02 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> I don't personally know for sure if it will allow installation of Linux,
> but I think I have seen a web page which says it's possible. Our laptop is
> an HP Elitebook 8460p, product number QU892US#ABA.
>
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Small engine trouble

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Just a thought:

Float sticks on carb while engine is setting... excess fuel runs down
intake pipe, fills cylinder with fuel. Fuel washes past rings, into
crankcase oil is contaminated with fuel/oil mix.

You start and run generator, which does not "run right" because float is
still stuck so fuel mixture is out of control... You shut down engine and
start checking "stuff" and find fuel/oil contamination issue..

Question: How long has the engine been setting with fuel in carb, and do
you have a fuel shutoff valve at the tank? Did you close shutoff valve and
let engine run out of fuel on last run before you had the present issue?

HTH,
Grant...

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What would cause gasoline contamination of the oil in a small engine? This
> is a ten HP gas engine on my generator.
>
> It wasn't running right, revving up and down, little voice said check the
> oil. Oil was way over filled and smelled of gas.
>
> Drained that out, refilled the oil.  Ran the generator for about thirty
> minutes, oil level stayed normal.  I'll check it again tomorrow.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Small engine trouble

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Failure of the needle valve and/or seat. Sometimes some schmoo will get in 
there and won't let it seat good. All small engines ought to have a fuel shut 
off and you should use it to prevent this kind of issue.
Put a couple ounces of Seafoam gas additive in the fuel, 2oz per gallon ought 
to cover it. Let that run awhile and your problem should be gone. My Honda 
CB900f motorcycle used to pee gas out the carb overflows if it sat awhile 
without Seafoam in the gas. I'd put a can in and let it run and the problem 
would go away.
-Curt


   On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 7:08:28 PM EDT, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 What would cause gasoline contamination of the oil in a small engine? This is 
a ten HP gas engine on my generator. 

It wasn't running right, revving up and down, little voice said check the oil. 
Oil was way over filled and smelled of gas.

Drained that out, refilled the oil.  Ran the generator for about thirty 
minutes, oil level stayed normal.  I'll check it again tomorrow.
-- 
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'95 E300
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[MBZ] OT Small engine trouble

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

What would cause gasoline contamination of the oil in a small engine? This is a 
ten HP gas engine on my generator. 

It wasn't running right, revving up and down, little voice said check the oil. 
Oil was way over filled and smelled of gas.

Drained that out, refilled the oil.  Ran the generator for about thirty 
minutes, oil level stayed normal.  I'll check it again tomorrow.
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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4373/37091176425_f50eed4bfc_b.jpgI like to think 
so. Thats from the bench, they string a little more 
offhand:https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4430/37091175785_a269d2455d_b.jpg
 
Offhand I was shooting about a 4" group, for the Primitive 
Biathlonhttp://www.svtpb.org/ I need to keep 'em in a 6" circle so I'm doing 
okay. From the bench it was more like 1".
I need to adjust the sights slightly higher, I'm about 1" down but I'm pleased 
with the grouping. It should tighten up with more practice. I finally ruined 
the flint and had to quit after about 25 shots. I ordered more flints, this 
time 3 English and 3 French to compare them, the first one I bought was English.

-Curt

On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 5:24:43 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 But, can he hit the broad side of a barn?

RB

On 07/09/2017 4:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Curt is a Minute Man!  I'm impressed!
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> In my house of course its a matter of putting the powder, patch and ball
>> together...Speaking of which I went to the range Tuesday and recorded
>> myself shooting. I managed 45 second load times which isn't too bad
>> considering I was measuring the powder for each shot.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

But, can he hit the broad side of a barn?

RB

On 07/09/2017 4:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Curt is a Minute Man!  I'm impressed!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


In my house of course its a matter of putting the powder, patch and ball
together...Speaking of which I went to the range Tuesday and recorded
myself shooting. I managed 45 second load times which isn't too bad
considering I was measuring the powder for each shot.


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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Curt is a Minute Man!  I'm impressed!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 5:10 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> In my house of course its a matter of putting the powder, patch and ball
> together...Speaking of which I went to the range Tuesday and recorded
> myself shooting. I managed 45 second load times which isn't too bad
> considering I was measuring the powder for each shot.
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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I agree, safe handling of firearms should be taught very early on.\
I figure its easier to lock up the ammo than the guns, my dad uses the "crap 
everywhere" technique. His house is full of guns and ammo but it takes a long 
time to come up with the right ammo for any given gun at any given moment.
In my house of course its a matter of putting the powder, patch and ball 
together...Speaking of which I went to the range Tuesday and recorded myself 
shooting. I managed 45 second load times which isn't too bad considering I was 
measuring the powder for each shot.
-Curt
 

On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 3:48:10 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 This is a good example of why I firmly believe, whether you’re a gun owner or 
not, that basic gun safety/handling be taught to every child at an early age.  
While it wouldn’t prevent every accidental death, I believe it would reduce the 
number.

My youngest son had a very close friend who was killed in this manner by 
another friend who knew nothing about guns and was playing around with one (I’m 
sketchy on the details as to where it came from.)  He pointed it at my son’s 
friend at close range and pulled the trigger, killing him instantly.  Of 
course, he “thought" it was unloaded.  He knew nothing about gun handling and 
probably didn’t check it or know how to.  And he violated firearm Rule #1 - 
never point a gun at something you don’t intend to kill.

My son feels guilty (unnecessarily) because had he been there he would have 
insisted on taking the gun and making sure it was unloaded, as well as 
schooling his friends on proper handling.  He was trained in an NRA approved 
course as a young man on how to handle a firearm.  We didn’t have any in the 
house at the time, but I still insisted he take the course for reasons just 
like this one.  Today he is a responsible gun owner and stores/handles his 
firearms in accordance with prescribed safety procedures.

As a (responsible) gun owner, they should be secured in a safe or cabinet with 
trigger and/or cable locks, and ammo should always be stored in another 
location away from the guns in a secured (locked) container as well.

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 07/09/2017 2:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Man-dies-from-gunshot-wound-in-Eagle-River-homicide-charges-to-be-filed-442667973.html
>>  
>> 
>> Followup reports say that  the kid just bought the gun.  The two guys were 
>> friends.  the owner "unloaded" the gun and pointed it at his friend and 
>> pulled the trigger.  After he shot his friend, the guy tried to apply 
>> pressure and keep hom from bleeding out until the ambulance was there.  
>> Dawin guy probably grew up on video games.  Never learned rule #1.
>> 
>> Rule #1 of handling a gun:  Never point it at any person you don't intend to 
>> kill.
>> 
>> Corollary to rule #1  Be Verdamt sure you never point a gun at a friend.
>> 
>> ___ 
> 
> AND make sure you know how to check to be sure it is not loaded.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Window permissions problem -- Help!

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Craig wrote:

> Perhaps we should take further discussion off list

Works for me - but do others who are lurking care to follow along?

Regarding your email issue - what about using Samba on the desktop
to allow a network mount of the directories?  Either Win7 "windows
networking" mount the Linux desktop (which I do and know is pretty
easy) or have Linux mount the Win7 "network shared" directories
(which I know can be done but don't do it enough to remember how)

Or, can you use cygwin to change the permissions of the email
directory so Win7 can write?

> > fmiser wrote:
> >
> > But if the issue is just avoiding Gnome3 - why Gnome at all?  I
> > pretty much gave up on Gnome when Gnome2 came out.
> 
> Because my wife, who for the most part has learned to use her
> login on our Linux system, is accustomed to Gnome 2.

Sound to me like MATE would be a good choice.  I chose not to
because (for not particular reason) I questioned whether MATE
would be around long term.  As of now, I see no evidence of it
fading away.

I had already used XFCE4 for a few situations so I shifted to
that.  I administer a bunch of computers and the users on all of
them seem to have made the shift without problems.  

I also quite using gdm (gnome's graphical login) and am usually
using lightdm.  This has resulted in not having a user-switcher
for multiple users on one computer to have a GUI to switch from
one users login to another.  I have found no solution for
lightdm.  For the system where it was important, I am using KDE's
display manager, kdm.  With the help of a bash script (and
a .desktop file to make it a graphical button) I have a non-gnome
solution.  

That was probably un-necessary since gdm can be used with _any_
desktop environment such as XFCE4 or OpenBox.  At that point I was
just so irritated with GNOME I avoided all the GNOME stuff I
could. *smiles*

> > With Gnome3 I am actively avoiding it.  I now generally
> > install XFCE4 for most users.  Or LXDE if you like the looks
> > of MS Win. 
> 
> I despise the looks of MS Win on a Linux system -- I use the
> command line extensively and don't want my background picture
> cluttered with a lot of useless stuff;

I'd say you are a good candidate for OpenBox.  No desktop icons.
None.  Right-click on the desktop if you want a menu.  I have
custom keyboard shortcuts to open gmrun, roxterm (my current choice
in xterm), and emacs so effectively I never use the menu.  

gmrun is a linux-style "run" prompt with tab completion and
history.  I use it for opening GUI programs.

With OpenBox, there is no auto-mounting of drives, or "folders" to
double-click on to open a file manager.  I consider those to be
features - but most of the users on the system I take care of feel
otherwise. :)

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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep, 'fraid so.

W

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Irma



True that.

Looks like you folks in GA and the Carolinas better start battening down 
the hatches as well.


-D

On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:36 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  
wrote:


And sometimes a HEAVY, LONG bands can can sit over ya and dump water 
hours like the one in  Andrew last Oct that put 13" of water into my 
basement as my gutter downspouts and drains were over-taxed and sump pump 
died.


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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is a good example of why I firmly believe, whether you’re a gun owner or 
not, that basic gun safety/handling be taught to every child at an early age.  
While it wouldn’t prevent every accidental death, I believe it would reduce the 
number.

My youngest son had a very close friend who was killed in this manner by 
another friend who knew nothing about guns and was playing around with one (I’m 
sketchy on the details as to where it came from.)  He pointed it at my son’s 
friend at close range and pulled the trigger, killing him instantly.  Of 
course, he “thought" it was unloaded.  He knew nothing about gun handling and 
probably didn’t check it or know how to.  And he violated firearm Rule #1 - 
never point a gun at something you don’t intend to kill.

My son feels guilty (unnecessarily) because had he been there he would have 
insisted on taking the gun and making sure it was unloaded, as well as 
schooling his friends on proper handling.  He was trained in an NRA approved 
course as a young man on how to handle a firearm.  We didn’t have any in the 
house at the time, but I still insisted he take the course for reasons just 
like this one.  Today he is a responsible gun owner and stores/handles his 
firearms in accordance with prescribed safety procedures.

As a (responsible) gun owner, they should be secured in a safe or cabinet with 
trigger and/or cable locks, and ammo should always be stored in another 
location away from the guns in a secured (locked) container as well.

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 3:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 07/09/2017 2:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Man-dies-from-gunshot-wound-in-Eagle-River-homicide-charges-to-be-filed-442667973.html
>>  
>> 
>> Followup reports say that  the kid just bought the gun.  The two guys were 
>> friends.  the owner "unloaded" the gun and pointed it at his friend and 
>> pulled the trigger.  After he shot his friend, the guy tried to apply 
>> pressure and keep hom from bleeding out until the ambulance was there.   
>> Dawin guy probably grew up on video games.  Never learned rule #1.
>> 
>> Rule #1 of handling a gun:  Never point it at any person you don't intend to 
>> kill.
>> 
>> Corollary to rule #1  Be Verdamt sure you never point a gun at a friend.
>> 
>> ___ 
> 
> AND make sure you know how to check to be sure it is not loaded.
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 07/09/2017 2:03 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Man-dies-from-gunshot-wound-in-Eagle-River-homicide-charges-to-be-filed-442667973.html 



Followup reports say that  the kid just bought the gun.  The two guys 
were friends.  the owner "unloaded" the gun and pointed it at his 
friend and pulled the trigger.  After he shot his friend, the guy 
tried to apply pressure and keep hom from bleeding out until the 
ambulance was there.   Dawin guy probably grew up on video games.  
Never learned rule #1.


Rule #1 of handling a gun:  Never point it at any person you don't 
intend to kill.


Corollary to rule #1  Be Verdamt sure you never point a gun at a friend.

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AND make sure you know how to check to be sure it is not loaded.

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[MBZ] Darwin award in reverse

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

http://www.wsaw.com/content/news/Man-dies-from-gunshot-wound-in-Eagle-River-homicide-charges-to-be-filed-442667973.html

Followup reports say that  the kid just bought the gun.  The two guys 
were friends.  the owner "unloaded" the gun and pointed it at his friend 
and pulled the trigger.  After he shot his friend, the guy tried to 
apply pressure and keep hom from bleeding out until the ambulance was 
there.   Dawin guy probably grew up on video games.  Never learned rule #1.


Rule #1 of handling a gun:  Never point it at any person you don't 
intend to kill.


Corollary to rule #1  Be Verdamt sure you never point a gun at a friend.

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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I was only joking about category 6. Cat 5 is the strongest on the scale.

On Sep 7, 2017 12:47 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> That’s Darwinism.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> > For the hurricane which hit Galveston in 1900, many were killed, but they
> > had warning and ignored it. They even went out in the exceptionally low
> > tides before the hurricane hit to enjoy the novelty of it.
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Road Trip

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

When I had that car, I could get 32 mpg pretty easily.  On one trip where I 
tried to keep it at 70 mph for long stretches, I got as high as 33.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Craig [mailto:diese...@pisquared.net] 
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 11:02 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] Road Trip

So, we went to Dallas for the Great American Trucking Show on 23 August and 
then to Austin to visit friends we made while I was in graduate school at UT.

The 1990 E300D drove fairly well. The only real problem we had was when the 
right rear tire picked up a nail and left us stranded because the spare I had 
aired up before we left had no air in it, because it, too, had a nail in it!

We drove 1628 miles and used 58.329 gallons of diesel for a fuel economy of 
27.91 mpg.

There were a few idiosyncracies, about which I will ask in separate emails.


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] OT: moving to a small town

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It worked out well for Tom Vilsack.  Mt. Pleasant was a small town with 
30-40 lawyers.  I don't remember the population of town, but the whole 
of Henry county was about 7500 in the late 80s when he became Mayor 
after someone shot up the city council over a backed up sewer.  I'd 
guess about 3500 for the population of Mt. Pleasant. Do the math!  
that is about 1 shyster for every 100 people in town!  1 shyster for 
every 200 people in the county!   NONE of em starved! (unfortunately)


Tom liked to go out and walk early in the morning.  I still think 
Christie is the brains of the family.   Her old man was one of the 
leading shysters in town.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Vilsack

Donald Snook via Mercedes 
August 31, 2017 at 11:52 AM
I have decided to take a position at a firm rather than keep my own 
practice going. So, I will moving from Wichita (a fairly large city) 
to McPherson Kansas (about 15,000 population). I didn't one 
interesting thing. My office is on main street right by the 
Courthouse. It is a typical small town main street. Someone works in a 
business nearby and they have a 126 350SD with personalized plates. It 
looks great! Hopefully I can meet the owner. My office is 59 miles 
from my house. So, I will commuting for a while until my house sells. 
Since its not a terrible commute, I don't think it will be that bad.


Don Snook


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Re: [MBZ] Procedure for R Engine Shutoff Valve? W124 1991 300D

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Actually you don't even need a Mityvac.  If you have good lungs,  you 
can hook a 3' piece of vacuum hose to the newly installed shutoff and 
suck on it.  It is easier to see straight while you hold vacuum if you 
use a Mityvac. ;<)




Larry Turner via Mercedes 
August 27, 2017 at 7:39 AM
Thanks Curley,
When doing something like this I much prefer your suggestion of 
actually seeing the result of a movement since a problem can cause a 
runaway.

LarryT



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Re: [MBZ] SDL key won't turn in ignition

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ID  10 T   Error!

ID10T!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
September 4, 2017 at 2:20 PM
I was at the store and got in to leave and the key would not turn. I 
giggled the key and messed with it for about 5 minutes. I then 
discovered I was using the key to the 95 e300. When I stuck the 
correct key in, it worked just fine.




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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Craig via Mercedes 
September 7, 2017 at 11:44 AM
On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 12:34:45 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes

For the hurricane which hit Galveston in 1900, many were killed, but they
had warning and ignored it. They even went out in the exceptionally low
tides before the hurricane hit to enjoy the novelty of it.


Craig
Same with tidal waves  In 1946, the kids at the Laupahoehoe school 
north of Hilo, HI saw the water had receded, and went out on the newly 
exposed ocean floor.  24 were killed.  It is a small town and a small 
school.

http://archives.starbulletin.com/97/03/31/news/story4.html

In 1960, People went out on the Suisan dock in Hilo Bay, and watched for 
the tsunami to come.  59 were killed.

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Re: [MBZ] Computer screwup

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

fmiser via Mercedes 
September 5, 2017 at 2:01 PM
   But no amount of OS security can cover for a
stupid user.


John Podesta is the poster child for "STUPID"   He is the "Rooshan" who 
opened a file and invited the "rooshians" in to copy all the files on 
his (DNC) computer!




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Re: [MBZ] Window permissions problem -- Help!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 02:33:02 -0500 fmiser via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I inferred that the laptop was preventing the install of Linux.  A
> VBox guest would avoid that issue.

I don't personally know for sure if it will allow installation of Linux,
but I think I have seen a web page which says it's possible. Our laptop is
an HP Elitebook 8460p, product number QU892US#ABA.


> But if the issue is just avoiding Gnome3 - why Gnome at all?  I
> pretty much gave up on Gnome when Gnome2 came out.

Because my wife, who for the most part has learned to use her login on
our Linux system, is accustomed to Gnome 2.


> With Gnome3 I am actively avoiding it.  I now generally install XFCE4
> for most users.  Or LXDE if you like the looks of MS Win. 

I despise the looks of MS Win on a Linux system -- I use the command
line extensively and don't want my background picture cluttered with a
lot of useless stuff; that's the reason why I am actively avoiding Gnome 3
and why we are still using CentOS 5.12.


> While not actually Gnome2, MATE and Cinnamon are effectively forks
> of Gnome2 but are current, though not especially lightweight. 

Gnome 2 is not especially lightweight, either, but that's not a problem
since I have 219 GB unused on the laptop's disk.


> Part of the beauty (or problem) with Linux is the abundance of
> choices.  There are LOTS of options other than Gnome3, so don't
> let a problem with Gnome3 prevent you from using Linux!

Yes, Sir!


> Personally, I run X from my own .xsession file, use OpenBox as the
> window manager, and don't use ANY session manager. But I'm also a
> very heavy command line user and like it if I don't have to use a
> mouse, and am not bothered by a lack of automatic stuff like
> mounting drives, setting up networks, launching programs, etc.

I see. Perhaps we should take further discussion off list.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s Darwinism.

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
> For the hurricane which hit Galveston in 1900, many were killed, but they
> had warning and ignored it. They even went out in the exceptionally low
> tides before the hurricane hit to enjoy the novelty of it.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 12:34:45 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The thing that really fascinates me about the severe weather stuff is
> how people dealt with it before we had all this technology.  The point
> being that if you were at my house right now you would think it was a
> typical Florida summer day.  It will be like that tomorrow and probably
> all day Saturday.  The doo-doo hits the fan late Saturday might most
> likely.
> 
> It makes you understand why so many people were killed or injured in
> the past, as there’s really no warning nor can you gauge the potential
> severity in any way, shape or form or know what to expect when this
> stuff starts…

For the hurricane which hit Galveston in 1900, many were killed, but they
had warning and ignored it. They even went out in the exceptionally low
tides before the hurricane hit to enjoy the novelty of it.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

True that.

Looks like you folks in GA and the Carolinas better start battening down the 
hatches as well.

-D

On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:36 PM, WILTON via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> And sometimes a HEAVY, LONG bands can can sit over ya and dump water hours 
> like the one in  Andrew last Oct that put 13" of water into my basement as my 
> gutter downspouts and drains were over-taxed and sump pump died.
> 
> W


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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[WILTON via Mercedes]

And sometimes a HEAVY, LONG bands can can sit over ya and dump water hours 
like the one in  Andrew last Oct that put 13" of water into my basement as 
my gutter downspouts and drains were over-taxed and sump pump died.


W

- Original Message - 
From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 

To: "Mercedes List" 
Cc: "Dan Penoff" 
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Irma


We had over 11” in one day a couple of weeks ago when the low pressure 
system that never developed into a hurricane hovered over the west coast 
of Florida.  Not a big deal for the most part.


In a hurricane, unless you’re perilously close to the eye wall, rain comes 
in “bands” as the arms of the hurricane pass over.  That means the rain 
isn’t a constant deluge, it comes and goes sometimes with hours in 
between.  For that matter, the weather can be weirdly pleasant between 
these rain bands as well, with bright sun and clear skies.


-D



On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:

I'd still call that a significant rain event. Houston had an exceptional 
rain event...


-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The thing that really fascinates me about the severe weather stuff is how 
people dealt with it before we had all this technology.  The point being that 
if you were at my house right now you would think it was a typical Florida 
summer day.  It will be like that tomorrow and probably all day Saturday.  The 
doo-doo hits the fan late Saturday might most likely.

It makes you understand why so many people were killed or injured in the past, 
as there’s really no warning nor can you gauge the potential severity in any 
way, shape or form or know what to expect when this stuff starts…

-D

 
> On Sep 7, 2017, at 12:27 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:33:17 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> In a hurricane, unless you’re perilously close to the eye wall, rain
>> comes in “bands” as the arms of the hurricane pass over.  That means
>> the rain isn’t a constant deluge, it comes and goes sometimes with
>> hours in between.
> 
> That's what we experienced when we drove from Dallas to Austin on the
> afternoon and evening of 26 August.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 7 Sep 2017 11:33:17 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> In a hurricane, unless you’re perilously close to the eye wall, rain
> comes in “bands” as the arms of the hurricane pass over.  That means
> the rain isn’t a constant deluge, it comes and goes sometimes with
> hours in between.

That's what we experienced when we drove from Dallas to Austin on the
afternoon and evening of 26 August.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

At least it's not cat5e!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On September 7, 2017 10:26:04 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>This:
>
>https://imgur.com/gallery/CBFmg
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> I had attached a picture that was humorous.  I suspect it didn’t make
>it?
>> 
>> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] A 116 with manual windows?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Cheap owner-- wanted to save $50.

On Sep 7, 2017 9:00 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> But the 300SD was a US only car.
>
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> > On Sep 7, 2017, at 7:21 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Probably Euro spec, may have been delivered in Germany -- the Germans
> were slow to adopt things like power seats and power windows.
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes 1972 280 SEL 4.5 $4900

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If the heater controls are intact and operable it might be worth $4k.

On Sep 6, 2017 9:10 PM, "Peter Frederick via Mercedes" <
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> If I were rich I'd be tempted, I really enjoyed the one I had.
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We had over 11” in one day a couple of weeks ago when the low pressure system 
that never developed into a hurricane hovered over the west coast of Florida.  
Not a big deal for the most part.

In a hurricane, unless you’re perilously close to the eye wall, rain comes in 
“bands” as the arms of the hurricane pass over.  That means the rain isn’t a 
constant deluge, it comes and goes sometimes with hours in between.  For that 
matter, the weather can be weirdly pleasant between these rain bands as well, 
with bright sun and clear skies.

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> I'd still call that a significant rain event. Houston had an exceptional rain 
> event...
> 
> -Curt
> 

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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'd still call that a significant rain event. Houston had an exceptional rain 
event...
-Curt
 

On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 10:26:58 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 We’re expecting tropical storm force winds Saturday night and Sunday.  This is 
not a significant rain event like the one they had in Houston.  At worst we 
might get 10”, if that.

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just checked and weather.com suggests it'll be Cat4 when it makes landfall in 
> the US but that it'll track right up Florida which can't be a good thing...
> -Curt
> 
> 
>    On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 10:07:51 AM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
>Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> I thought it's been a cat 5 for a while?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is now a CAT5 hurricane:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This:

https://imgur.com/gallery/CBFmg

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I had attached a picture that was humorous.  I suspect it didn’t make it?
> 
> -D


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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Nope, was it this one? https://i.imgur.com/BfOFaTa.jpg

 

On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 10:23:34 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I had attached a picture that was humorous.  I suspect it didn’t make it?

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I thought it's been a cat 5 for a while?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is now a CAT5 hurricane:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We’re expecting tropical storm force winds Saturday night and Sunday.  This is 
not a significant rain event like the one they had in Houston.  At worst we 
might get 10”, if that.

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> Just checked and weather.com suggests it'll be Cat4 when it makes landfall in 
> the US but that it'll track right up Florida which can't be a good thing...
> -Curt
> 
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> I thought it's been a cat 5 for a while?
> 
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>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is now a CAT5 hurricane:
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

No

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:22 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> I had attached a picture that was humorous.  I suspect it didn’t make it?
> 
> -D
> 
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>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
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>> I thought it's been a cat 5 for a while?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
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>>> Is now a CAT5 hurricane:
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I had attached a picture that was humorous.  I suspect it didn’t make it?

-D


> On Sep 7, 2017, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> I thought it's been a cat 5 for a while?
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> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 9:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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>> Is now a CAT5 hurricane:
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Just checked and weather.com suggests it'll be Cat4 when it makes landfall in 
the US but that it'll track right up Florida which can't be a good thing...
-Curt
 

On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 10:07:51 AM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
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 I thought it's been a cat 5 for a while?

Sent from my iPhone

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> Is now a CAT5 hurricane:
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

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Thats what I was thinking. The big worry was it might become Cat6.
-Curt
 

On Thursday, September 7, 2017, 10:07:51 AM EDT, Kaleb C. Striplin via 
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 I thought it's been a cat 5 for a while?

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> Is now a CAT5 hurricane:
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Re: [MBZ] Irma

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I thought it's been a cat 5 for a while?

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Irma

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Is now a CAT5 hurricane:



-D
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Re: [MBZ] A 116 with manual windows?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

But the 300SD was a US only car.

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> Probably Euro spec, may have been delivered in Germany -- the Germans were 
> slow to adopt things like power seats and power windows.
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Re: [MBZ] A 116 with manual windows?

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Probably Euro spec, may have been delivered in Germany -- the Germans were slow 
to adopt things like power seats and power windows.
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Re: [MBZ] Needs some tlc

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Needs a cutting torch, welder, new left rear fender and bumper, paint.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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Re: [MBZ] Window permissions problem -- Help!

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> > > Craig wrote:
> > > 
> > > I wouldn't, except I haven't taken the time to figure out
> > > how to get a current version of Linux running with Gnome 2
> > > either on the laptop or the desktop, so we are stuck for now
> > > with Win 7 on the laptop.

> > fmiser wrote:
> > 
> > How about Virtualbox with a Linux guest.
> > 
> > Yeah, it's backwards - but it should work...

> Craig wrote:
> 
> But what would running a Linux guest in Virtualbox on the Win 7
> laptop gain me? I still need to get a tolerable UI in Linux, and
> Gnome 3 is NOT it.

I inferred that the laptop was preventing the install of Linux.  A
VBox guest would avoid that issue.

But if the issue is just avoiding Gnome3 - why Gnome at all?  I
pretty much gave up on Gnome when Gnome2 came out.  With Gnome3 I
am actively avoiding it.  I now generally install XFCE4 for most
users.  Or LXDE if you like the looks of MS Win. 

While not actually Gnome2, MATE and Cinnamon are effectively forks
of Gnome2 but are current, though not especially lightweight. 

Or even KDE is better than Gnome right now. (I think)

Or go really light with Enlightenment or Open/Black/Fluxbox.

Or try Sugar, developed for OLPC XO-1 (One Laptop Per Child). It's
- well, different.

Part of the beauty (or problem) with Linux is the abundance of
choices.  There are LOTS of options other than Gnome3, so don't
let a problem with Gnome3 prevent you from using Linux!

Personally, I run X from my own .xsession file, use OpenBox as the
window manager, and don't use ANY session manager. But I'm also a
very heavy command line user and like it if I don't have to use a
mouse, and am not bothered by a lack of automatic stuff like
mounting drives, setting up networks, launching programs, etc.

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