Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Gallon weight: Jet A / JP5 = 6.8 lbs per gallon AV Gas . = 6.6 lbs per gallon Fresh water = 8.34 lbs per gallon Sea water ...= 8.57 lbs per gallon [based on a calculated average of salt density] On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:25 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think water is 8 fuel is 6 but my recollection might be fuzzy > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to > estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which > is way under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to > distribute the weight can't hurt --- > > > > Am I missing something? > > > > Larry > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Probably not caused by the lost wire. Had that wire shorted the fuse would probably have blown. > -Original Message- > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of > Larry Turner via Mercedes > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2018 7:13 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: Larry Turner > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down? > > Hi Max, > > Just finished testing the fuses - I disconnected the Neg Cable Connector - > Then with the Test Light connected between the Neg Cable and Neg Post - I > found the light stayed Lit the whole time except when I got to #9. I pulled > the > top of the Fuse Holder away from the top of each fuse and there was no > change in the way the light acted except when I got to #9. The Light went out > when I removed the fuse and then when I put the fuse back the light came > back on. I then pulled it again. > > BTW, I remembered that when I R'd the AC Evap. I lost the power wire that > makes the antenna go up/down when the radio is turned on - it disappeared > into the area under/behind the console and after 2 days of searching I gave up > and found another place to get 12v when the key turned on. I ended up tying > into the light in the glove box for power to raise/lower the antenna. Maybe > that wire came in contact with the chassis? > > But the good thing is, I am beginning to understand how to test, how the test > work and what they tell me - Thanks to you, Peter and Craig. I still have a > long > way to go before I can operate by myself, but at least I understand more about > what I'm doing. > > I'm still confused by Peter's comment about testing and the "Hot Side of the > Fuse". I thought both sides were hot when energized? But then I remembered > what you said about the Switches and their role in my Test Procedure - Is this > right? One side of the Fuse Holder is Hot, and when the switch is switched on > the circuit is completed? Hmmm,... No, I guess both sides of the fuse holder > could be either hot or negative depending on the design? Right? > > Oh well, as long as the lights come on when I flip the switch. ;-) > > Anyway. here's the list of associated things on circuit #9: > > Diagnostic Term. # 6 > Hazard Warning Light > Clock > Front Roof Light > Radio > Vanity Mirror Light > Relay Comfort Circuitry Term 86. > > I have no idea what Term 6 and 86 do or where they are located but I doubt > either would have a short. > > I'll start troubleshooting the things on this circuit. > > Comments anyone? > > LarryT > 91 300D > > > > > > On 07/22/2018 3:32 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >> Just a slow day perhaps. > > - > > Max > > Charleston SC > > > > On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did > >> everyone sleep in? > >> > >> LarryT > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I think water is 8 fuel is 6 but my recollection might be fuzzy --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 9:57 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to estimate > the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which is way > under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to distribute the > weight can't hurt --- > > Am I missing something? > > Larry ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 85 300D Wiper Issues
Very likely you need a new motor. or relay, or both. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 9:39 PM, Michael Esh via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My wipers have been acting up over the last several of months. When I > initiate the washers the wipers will occasionally stop in mid swipe. Now > in the last two weeks I’ve blown two fuses on that circuit. Any thoughts? > Is the motor burning out? Can these be rebuilt? Is their away test? > Thanks, > Mike > Michael E. Esh > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
The 5.7 was built from the ground up as a diesel, it was never a converted gas engine. This is a rumor. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes > wrote: > > Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem > to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per > gallon IIRC. > > Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas > engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling > pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly > than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. > > LarryT > > >> On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >>> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >>> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I haven't used one but it has always impressed me as being unusable in the real world because of too much friction and not enough strength of materials. My inclination for drum handling would be https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200673817_200673817 in conjunction with something like this https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200672545_200672545 OK Don via Mercedes wrote: Has anyone seen one of these in action? https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto the tailgate? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
GM didn't modify a gas engine, they just shared displacement. It wasn't broken cranks either, they didn't have sufficient head clamping. It was fixed by the end of the run but nobody wants to hear that part. The 5.7l diesel blocks are prized by hot rodders as they're stronger than the gasser blocks... -Curt On Monday, July 23, 2018, 7:41:58 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per gallon IIRC. Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. LarryT On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >> >>> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I >>> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >>> >>> LarryT >>> >>> For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I seem to recall my flight instructor saying I should use 8#s/gal to estimate the weight of fuel for load distribution calcs. So 8x55=440 which is way under the 2000# limit. but i think plywood under the drum to distribute the weight can't hurt --- Am I missing something? Larry On 07/23/2018 9:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the airplane - use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will be with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a barrel cart, at ground level... Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 minutes using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel using that same system. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: How do you get it off of the tailgate? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the weight load. It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the load beyond the rim of the barrel. With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Has anyone seen one of these in action? https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto the tailgate? -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I had several during the Biodiesel manufacturing plant days, Kept a couple. They are quite "spendy" As I recall, the 2" models I kept were in the $3,500 range.. Great pumps, however. If you use Viton diaphargms and component parts they will pump hazmat chemicals, water, oil, fuel, mud doesn't seem to matter. IMHO.. well worth the investment in a commercial use.. way over priced for "personal use"... hahah... On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:37 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like > you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . . > I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that > handle 5 times per gallon. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > A gas... not diesel... for gas, I use an air operated diaphragm > > pump no sparks. Hand pump double action diaphragm works just as > well... > > just not as fast. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the > > airplane - > > > use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of > the > > > Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference > between > > > mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > > > > > > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of > > my > > > > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it > will > > > be > > > > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a > > > barrel > > > > cart, at ground level... > > > > > > > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 > > > minutes > > > > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in > > the > > > > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel > > > using > > > > that same system. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, > > but > > > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area > vs > > > the > > > > > weight load. > > > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to > > distribute > > > > the > > > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a > much > > > > wider > > > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which > > slides > > > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader- > 60800.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the > > bed > > > > > onto > > > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, > and > > > many > > > > > of > > > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. > The > > > few > > > > > who > > > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the > electric > > > > fence > > > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > > > ___ > > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > >
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Exactly! On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:43 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > including the consumers IMO > > > > On 07/23/2018 8:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> It was the principle of the matter - someone lied, all will be punished. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I >>> seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 >>> mile per gallon IIRC. >>> >>> Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas >>> engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling >>> pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more >>> costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. >>> >>> LarryT >>> >>> >>> >>> On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: > > BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the > US? I > >> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >> >> LarryT >> >> For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >> >> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
including the consumers IMO On 07/23/2018 8:09 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: It was the principle of the matter - someone lied, all will be punished. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per gallon IIRC. Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. LarryT On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 91 300D Rear Axle disconnect- more evidence
Hi Gang, I found this on Pelican http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/body-repair/388675-w-124-rear-subframe-mount-rot.html#post3831265 so there's at least 2 other people (worldwide) who have problems like my 300D. At least I think we're all talking about the same thing. anyone on the list have a problem like this? I was probably vague in my description initially... LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 85 300D Wiper Issues
My wipers have been acting up over the last several of months. When I initiate the washers the wipers will occasionally stop in mid swipe. Now in the last two weeks I’ve blown two fuses on that circuit. Any thoughts? Is the motor burning out? Can these be rebuilt? Is their away test? Thanks, Mike Michael E. Esh ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
> On July 23, 2018 at 9:21 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) We can't get 87 octane no ethanol around here, but we can get 89 octane for about a dollar a gallon more than 93 octane gasahol. (yes, $4/gallon for "outdoor power equipment fuel") I buy six gallons of it in the fall. Whatever doesn't go through the generator over the winter goes in the mowers in the spring. Main reason I buy it is that it doesn't oxidize and make varnish in a sealed container. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Hmm - never heard of an air operated diaphragm pump before. It looks like you can spend between $250 and $18,000 for one . . . I have a decent air compressor - sure sounds easier than pumping that handle 5 times per gallon. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > A gas... not diesel... for gas, I use an air operated diaphragm > pump no sparks. Hand pump double action diaphragm works just as well... > just not as fast. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the > airplane - > > use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the > > Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between > > mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > > > > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of > my > > > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will > > be > > > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a > > barrel > > > cart, at ground level... > > > > > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 > > minutes > > > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in > the > > > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel > > using > > > that same system. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, > but > > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs > > the > > > > weight load. > > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to > distribute > > > the > > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > > > wider > > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which > slides > > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the > bed > > > > onto > > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and > > many > > > > of > > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The > > few > > > > who > > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > > fence > > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Yup - the hand pump double action is what I have - - On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > A gas... not diesel... for gas, I use an air operated diaphragm > pump no sparks. Hand pump double action diaphragm works just as well... > just not as fast. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the > airplane - > > use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the > > Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between > > mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > > > > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of > my > > > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will > > be > > > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a > > barrel > > > cart, at ground level... > > > > > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 > > minutes > > > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in > the > > > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel > > using > > > that same system. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, > but > > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs > > the > > > > weight load. > > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to > distribute > > > the > > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > > > wider > > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which > slides > > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the > bed > > > > onto > > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and > > many > > > > of > > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The > > few > > > > who > > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > > fence > > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > > ___ > > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I have one chain wrapped around the barrel under the top rib, with three shorter chains going up where they meet at one of those triangle screw together chain fittings things. They are long enough to slip close to an outside edge, which gives clearance for the pump (with filter) to un-screw for filling. The belly chain is tensioned with a bolt - it hasn't shown any signs of slipping so far (5 years) - knocking on wood. Yes, dropping and splitting a barrel with 55 gallons of gasoline in the hangar would be a bad day . . . On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:25 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Having lifted 55 gallon barrels with an engine hoist, I will offer this > advise. > > BE CAREFUL. barrels are tough to grab hold of, and chains slip... Best > effect I've had is using 2 inch nylon wide lifting slings, using them as > "chokers". > > Best result moving barrels is with a fork lift. If you have access to one, > use it. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Chains are around the barrel - I lift it with an engine hoist. I'm > putting > > a camper shell on the truck bed, which will not have clearance for the > > barrel, chains, and hoist height. Need to get the full (350lb) barrel out > > from under the shell. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > wrote: > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs > the > > > weight load. > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute > > the > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > > wider > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > > onto > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and > many > > > of > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The > few > > > who > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > fence > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ >
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
A gas... not diesel... for gas, I use an air operated diaphragm pump no sparks. Hand pump double action diaphragm works just as well... just not as fast. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:21 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the airplane - > use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the > Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between > mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my > > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will > be > > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a > barrel > > cart, at ground level... > > > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 > minutes > > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the > > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel > using > > that same system. > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > > wrote: > > > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs > the > > > weight load. > > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute > > the > > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > > wider > > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > > onto > > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > OK Don > > > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and > many > > > of > > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The > few > > > who > > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > > fence > > > > for themselves." > > > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > > ___ > > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Having lifted 55 gallon barrels with an engine hoist, I will offer this advise. BE CAREFUL. barrels are tough to grab hold of, and chains slip... Best effect I've had is using 2 inch nylon wide lifting slings, using them as "chokers". Best result moving barrels is with a fork lift. If you have access to one, use it. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Chains are around the barrel - I lift it with an engine hoist. I'm putting > a camper shell on the truck bed, which will not have clearance for the > barrel, chains, and hoist height. Need to get the full (350lb) barrel out > from under the shell. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > wrote: > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > > weight load. > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute > the > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > wider > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > onto > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > OK Don > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > > of > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > > who > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > fence > > > for themselves." > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I use the barrel to haul 87 octane un-leaded (no ethanol) to the airplane - use a hand crank pump to get it from the barrel to the wing tanks of the Cessna. The low compression Continental can't tell the difference between mogas and avgas, and it's half the price or less. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 8:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) > > As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my > trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will be > with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a barrel > cart, at ground level... > > Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 minutes > using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the > barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel using > that same system. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com > > wrote: > > > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > > weight load. > > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute > the > > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much > wider > > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > wrote: > > > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > > onto > > > the tailgate? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > OK Don > > > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > > of > > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > > who > > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric > fence > > > for themselves." > > > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Chains are around the barrel - I lift it with an engine hoist. I'm putting a camper shell on the truck bed, which will not have clearance for the barrel, chains, and hoist height. Need to get the full (350lb) barrel out from under the shell. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > weight load. > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > onto > > the tailgate? > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
That's what I was wondering about. If I buy one, I'll put plywood under the barrel. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:37 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > weight load. > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > onto > > the tailgate? > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:53 PM tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > How do you get it off of the tailgate? Keep cranking and have a mattress on the ground? -MMM- ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Back up and slam the brakes on really fast. self unloads ;)) As it happens, I presently have a barrel full of Jet A fuel in one of my trucks, loaded as far forward as it will fit. When I unload it, it will be with a 12 Volt Harbor Freight pump, into another barrel setting on a barrel cart, at ground level... Total time to pump 55 gal of Jet A [schedule 52 Diesel] is about 20 minutes using 1/2 inch clear hose with PVC pipe on each end to stick down in the barrel... To date, I've pumped about 1,200 gallons of generator fuel using that same system. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:53 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote: > How do you get it off of the tailgate? > > > Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A > Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann < > g2ma...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader > I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but > only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the > weight load. > It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the > load beyond the rim of the barrel. > > With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider > area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides > across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. > > I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed > onto > > the tailgate? > > > > > > -- > > OK Don > > > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many > of > > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few > who > > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > > for themselves." > > > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Ima real man then! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 8:23 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > Real men drive Diesels I haven't seen any real men in Europe OR > California in a couple decades to busy with their man buns and skinny > jeans, I opine. > Your opinion may vary, however. > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >>> On July 23, 2018 at 5:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle >> plus concerns about particulates and health. >> >> I know London and Paris don't want diesels, with or without particulate >> filters. >> California doesn't want commercial diesels without particulate filters. >> >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
How do you get it off of the tailgate? Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A Original message From: G Mann via Mercedes Date: 2018-07-23 7:37 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion List Cc: G Mann Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the weight load. It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the load beyond the rim of the barrel. With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto > the tailgate? > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
I believe a full 55 gal barrel might exceed it's structural limits, but only because the rim of the barrel would be the only contact area vs the weight load. It might work if you set the barrel on a piece of plywood to distribute the load beyond the rim of the barrel. With a load of dirt or rock, the weight is distributed across a much wider area [although perhaps the same weight] against the "tarp" which slides across the bed of the truck as you wind the handle. I've used one for landscape rock... worked really well. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 5:17 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > Has anyone seen one of these in action? > > https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html > > Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto > the tailgate? > > > -- > OK Don > > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain > > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence > for themselves." > > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* > 2013 F150, 18 mpg > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Hi Mitch, I went back and checked my notes to confirm my findings and it was Fuse C that was blown. Fuse #9 is the one that allowed the test light to go out when I pulled the fuses. But I see what you mean about the fuse and the battery killer being separate issues. So I have 2 problems to locate... Is it possible the fuse got weak and popped by itself? Speaking of Fuses - I noticed one of my fuses had a thin strip of solder connecting the ends and saw in the WSM that some (all, ?) fuses would have this design after 12/90 (IIRC). Any idea what the solder was supposed to do on the fuse? And lastly, I noticed some of my fuses have the same rating but the metal strips look different. Normal? Thanks! Now I have something else to think about ;-) LarryT 91 300D On 07/23/2018 10:45 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: Whichever circuit has a blown fuse, is not the circuit that's killing batteries. The blown fuse stops the current draw. There's likely a big issue on that circuit, but it's a separate issue from the dead battery. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Real men drive Diesels I haven't seen any real men in Europe OR California in a couple decades to busy with their man buns and skinny jeans, I opine. Your opinion may vary, however. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 3:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On July 23, 2018 at 5:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle > plus concerns about particulates and health. > > I know London and Paris don't want diesels, with or without particulate > filters. > California doesn't want commercial diesels without particulate filters. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Some sort of scam?
On Mon, 23 Jul 2018 18:57:40 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" wrote: > 1989 Mercedes-Benz 420 Series Black > > https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/ctd/d/1989-mercedes-benz-420-series/6650829294.html Well, it does say, "Contact me with an offer - listed price does not reflect my true asking price." Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
> On July 23, 2018 at 8:09 PM OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > > > It was the principle of the matter - someone lied, all will be punished. I believe that concept, plus attempts at winning the courthouse lottery, resulted in a baseless class action suit or two against GM, alleging that GM did the same thing as VW. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT - pickup un-loader
Has anyone seen one of these in action? https://www.harborfreight.com/truck-bed-cargo-unloader-60800.html Would it work to slide a full 55 gal. barrel from the rear of the bed onto the tailgate? -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
It was the principle of the matter - someone lied, all will be punished. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 6:41 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I > seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 > mile per gallon IIRC. > > Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas > engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling > pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more > costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. > > LarryT > > > > On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > >> I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. >> >> On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets >>> dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >>> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Some sort of scam?
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Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Was the change that big or just the fact VW management deceived them? I seem to recall the actual MPG increase was pretty small. Less that 1/2 mile per gallon IIRC. Of course Chevrolet got the ball rolling with their modification of gas engine to diesel. A lot of broken cranks left a lot of GM owners feeling pretty bad. And repairing a engine with a damaged crank is a LOT more costly than a few tenths MPG IMNSHO of course. LarryT On 07/23/2018 6:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
I think the VW dieselgate killed Diesels in the US - perhaps permanently. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 4:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: > >> >> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I >> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >> >> LarryT >> >> For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets > dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
> On July 23, 2018 at 5:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle plus > concerns about particulates and health. I know London and Paris don't want diesels, with or without particulate filters. California doesn't want commercial diesels without particulate filters. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Thanks Jim, I'll study this for a while and I suspect things will become clearer. Thanks for the simplification! LarryT On 07/23/2018 11:05 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote: Basic electrical circuitry is actually quite simple. Pretend that an electron wishes to get from the positive side of the battery to the negative side. (They actually go the other way, due to a bad naming guess by the original scientists, but that's irrelevant.) How does it get there? Follow its journey along the map (schematic diagram) from the hotter side (positive) to the notter side (negative) of each circuit element along the way. As it travels through each element designed to extract energy from this motion (lights, motors) some work is performed, and some heat is generated. As it travels through everything else, some heat is generated. (Ideally, not much.) Open switches, or fuses, or wires, stop the journey. More than one moving electron is required for any significant action to take place. For example, your test light probably needs 3 quintillion of them a second to light at full brilliance. You use it by inserting it into a path, or bridging an open path, and seeing if (m)any of the little buggers now have an intact road they can travel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Unfortunately no, when I put it away for "semi-storage" I made sure everything was turned off. I should have disconnected the battery but something came up IIRC. After that it was out of the memory banks.. Larry On 07/23/2018 12:06 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Could someone have left the courtesy light / map light turned on? Might be as simple as that... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Thanks Max, Well duh, it sounds so simple when you tell it like that ;-) Actually I should have been able to figure that one by myself. But after so long it was obviously not coming easily. Seems like I used to be much smarter than I am now. Guess my brain is getting older too. I hate to spend the time to do it but I should play a brain improvement game. Maybe I could improve my problem solving abilities... ;-) Larry On 07/23/2018 12:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Hot side of the fuse: If you remove the fuse, one of the two terminals will be "hot" with 12v DC. In order to be hot, usually some switch like the ignition switch needs to be turned on, but some fuses and circuits are not switched and always have power, like the headlights and the courtesy light, sometimes the radio. #9 is probably hot all the time. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:12 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I'm still confused by Peter's comment about testing and the "Hot Side of the Fuse". I thought both sides were hot when energized? But then I remembered what you said about the Switches and their role in my Test Procedure - Is this right? One side of the Fuse Holder is Hot, and when the switch is switched on the circuit is completed? Hmmm,... No, I guess both sides of the fuse holder could be either hot or negative depending on the design? Right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Hi Max, Thanks, so you think it may be as simple as swapping out the front/courtesy light assy? Sure, I'm in no hurry - I can drive it with Fuse 9 removed. The Radio doesn't work anyway ;-) Is there anyway to test it? Maybe take the bulbs out, put the fuse back in and see what the test light tells us? 'Course swapping the assemblies would do the same thing let me know how much you want for it please... Think I should replace my Hazard Switch? It's another user on my #9 circuit and I have one in my toolbox Thanks again, Larry On 07/23/2018 12:10 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Larry - I think I have a spare front / courtesy light. Finding that spare in my garage, now that may be another matter If you are in no hurry, and decide you would like it, let me know. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: Could someone have left the courtesy light / map light turned on? Might be as simple as that... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Yes, the EU nannies at picking at IE for having Dissels. IE is tryin to figger out if they buckle, or if they buck the EU nannies. I am hoping for being Irish, and putting up a fight! Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle plus concerns about particulates and health. --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Briggs and Stratton invents the hybrid
There was a guy in Ames who made a 'lektrick car in the early 80s. He gutted an econobox. I think it was a early Escort.. Then added his stuff. It was still running in the 90s when we moved to Ames. I talked to him probably in the 93-95 timeframe. It still managed to go 2-5 miles a day to campus and home, and maybe more. I'm not sure if it ever got across town or to US30. It probably would have been illegal on I-35 for being too slow. G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Nothing like 900 lbs of lead acid batteries over the rear wheels to help load the 18 HP engine for good acceleration, huh... Gee... wonder why it didn't catch on and sell millions of cars? ... Must have not gotten that Federal Grant Money like Elon Musk. Well.. that and it's from the era when an alternate energy car had to be stone ugly and not practical... Hell... I'll bet it could go as much at 10 miles on a recharge. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes< mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Yurp is working on banning them. Some reaction to the emissions debacle plus concerns about particulates and health. --R Sent from iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 5:23 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: >> >> BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I >> assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... >> >> LarryT >> > For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets > dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT For instance: In Ireland, the majority of cars are Dissel. RTW gets dissels. The goofy CARB and Feds keep them out here. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Page Oil Engine Wuz: Is the List Down?
Sounds like a Page Oil engine. Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: I was camping, a Coleman Lantern friend who also owns the Whately Engine Museum, had a gathering. We camped and lit lanterns and watched old engines run. He calls his big engines "Medium sized" but I consider them HUGE. 4' flywheels aren't uncommon... I've got video of him starting a "semi-diesel" which is really a hot bulb diesel. To start it you put a big torch on what looks a like a trailer hitch ball. The "injector" drips fuel onto the shaft the ball is part of inside the cylinder and "vaporizes" which is maybe a generous term, the fuel. That one blows smoke rings when its running... I'll post some pictures and video once I get them ready. -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Save the Date- 9/8/18 ChowdahQ XI
Ok. How is that made? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Jul 23, 2018 4:47 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > My buddy brought me some quahogs yesterday I’m gonna make me some good > Lowcountry chowdah! > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jul 23, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Dwight E. Giles Jr. > > Wickford RI > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: Dwight Giles > > Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:24 PM > > Subject: Save the Date- 9/8/18 ChowdahQ XI > > > > > > > > Dear New England Star Gazers and Other Vehicle Lovers, > > > > Mark your calendar for another wonderful celebration of vehicles and > > camaraderie. Once again we will be at Goddard State Park, 1095 Ives > Road > > Warwick RI. Sites 40-42. http://www.riparks.com/ > > Locations/LocationGoddard.html > > > > We will start to gather about 10AM for coffee and Dunkin Donuts (It is > New > > England). We will start with Chowdah about 1PM. As always we will have > > Karen's clam loaded Chowdah-both clear and white. Sam's famous clam cakes > > will return, and as always Curt's Coleman cooked food of You Tube Fame > > . Fred Moir will once again make his famous healthy veggie trays and > dips. > > . Roy and I will also steam a couple hundred local littleneck clams. > > > > As always, we will have a great time of hood raising, story telling, some > > games and contests and a drawing for a $50.00 gift certificate for parts > > and service from our sponsor Fred's Autohaus in Warwick RI. No admission > > charge as always but we will pass the 240D hubcap for expenses. > > Here is the link to photos of Chowdah Q X. > > > > https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO6Y-j_e84huq- > > r59Uli9RnBIxlAHyPvd8IcJi17RQDM1I1XAgXI2vLd1-GXA5aEg?key= > > NGdmWUpqUFdoakJTTUZFOXVOMmFGaTJKc0FlVTZB > > > > If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Looking forward > > to anther wonderful day. > > > > Dwight E. Giles Jr. > > 1982 300CD > > 2005 E320 4matic > > Wickford RI > > Cell. 617 596 1224. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Save the Date- 9/8/18 ChowdahQ XI
My buddy brought me some quahogs yesterday I’m gonna make me some good Lowcountry chowdah! --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jul 23, 2018, at 1:33 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes > wrote: > > Dwight E. Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: Dwight Giles > Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:24 PM > Subject: Save the Date- 9/8/18 ChowdahQ XI > > > > Dear New England Star Gazers and Other Vehicle Lovers, > > Mark your calendar for another wonderful celebration of vehicles and > camaraderie. Once again we will be at Goddard State Park, 1095 Ives Road > Warwick RI. Sites 40-42. http://www.riparks.com/ > Locations/LocationGoddard.html > > We will start to gather about 10AM for coffee and Dunkin Donuts (It is New > England). We will start with Chowdah about 1PM. As always we will have > Karen's clam loaded Chowdah-both clear and white. Sam's famous clam cakes > will return, and as always Curt's Coleman cooked food of You Tube Fame > . Fred Moir will once again make his famous healthy veggie trays and dips. > . Roy and I will also steam a couple hundred local littleneck clams. > > As always, we will have a great time of hood raising, story telling, some > games and contests and a drawing for a $50.00 gift certificate for parts > and service from our sponsor Fred's Autohaus in Warwick RI. No admission > charge as always but we will pass the 240D hubcap for expenses. > Here is the link to photos of Chowdah Q X. > > https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO6Y-j_e84huq- > r59Uli9RnBIxlAHyPvd8IcJi17RQDM1I1XAgXI2vLd1-GXA5aEg?key= > NGdmWUpqUFdoakJTTUZFOXVOMmFGaTJKc0FlVTZB > > If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Looking forward > to anther wonderful day. > > Dwight E. Giles Jr. > 1982 300CD > 2005 E320 4matic > Wickford RI > Cell. 617 596 1224. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Fwd: Save the Date- 9/8/18 ChowdahQ XI
Dwight E. Giles Jr. Wickford RI -- Forwarded message -- From: Dwight Giles Date: Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 1:24 PM Subject: Save the Date- 9/8/18 ChowdahQ XI Dear New England Star Gazers and Other Vehicle Lovers, Mark your calendar for another wonderful celebration of vehicles and camaraderie. Once again we will be at Goddard State Park, 1095 Ives Road Warwick RI. Sites 40-42. http://www.riparks.com/ Locations/LocationGoddard.html We will start to gather about 10AM for coffee and Dunkin Donuts (It is New England). We will start with Chowdah about 1PM. As always we will have Karen's clam loaded Chowdah-both clear and white. Sam's famous clam cakes will return, and as always Curt's Coleman cooked food of You Tube Fame . Fred Moir will once again make his famous healthy veggie trays and dips. . Roy and I will also steam a couple hundred local littleneck clams. As always, we will have a great time of hood raising, story telling, some games and contests and a drawing for a $50.00 gift certificate for parts and service from our sponsor Fred's Autohaus in Warwick RI. No admission charge as always but we will pass the 240D hubcap for expenses. Here is the link to photos of Chowdah Q X. https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipO6Y-j_e84huq- r59Uli9RnBIxlAHyPvd8IcJi17RQDM1I1XAgXI2vLd1-GXA5aEg?key= NGdmWUpqUFdoakJTTUZFOXVOMmFGaTJKc0FlVTZB If you have any questions please feel free to contact me. Looking forward to anther wonderful day. Dwight E. Giles Jr. 1982 300CD 2005 E320 4matic Wickford RI Cell. 617 596 1224. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Briggs and Stratton invents the hybrid
Nothing like 900 lbs of lead acid batteries over the rear wheels to help load the 18 HP engine for good acceleration, huh... Gee... wonder why it didn't catch on and sell millions of cars? ... Must have not gotten that Federal Grant Money like Elon Musk. Well.. that and it's from the era when an alternate energy car had to be stone ugly and not practical... Hell... I'll bet it could go as much at 10 miles on a recharge. On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 9:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew would really be styling, riding around WDC in his hybrid electric > car with two rear axles and that awesome 70's look. > > I wonder if any of those survived? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180723/55f8e08f5ee9c5f559c964f12daa5f > > 54.jpg > > > > https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180723/f983e2c3e1cfa61367d6cdb535b078 > > 93.jpg > > > > https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180723/ed67355008254592a3ecf889964668 > > 6d.jpg > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Briggs and Stratton invents the hybrid
Andrew would really be styling, riding around WDC in his hybrid electric car with two rear axles and that awesome 70's look. I wonder if any of those survived? - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180723/55f8e08f5ee9c5f559c964f12daa5f > 54.jpg > > https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180723/f983e2c3e1cfa61367d6cdb535b078 > 93.jpg > > https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20180723/ed67355008254592a3ecf889964668 > 6d.jpg > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Larry - I think I have a spare front / courtesy light. Finding that spare in my garage, now that may be another matter If you are in no hurry, and decide you would like it, let me know. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 12:06 PM, Meade Dillon wrote: > Could someone have left the courtesy light / map light turned on? Might > be as simple as that... > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> > On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here >> in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. >> >> > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Hot side of the fuse: If you remove the fuse, one of the two terminals will be "hot" with 12v DC. In order to be hot, usually some switch like the ignition switch needs to be turned on, but some fuses and circuits are not switched and always have power, like the headlights and the courtesy light, sometimes the radio. #9 is probably hot all the time. - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:12 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > I'm still confused by Peter's comment about testing and the "Hot Side of > the Fuse". I thought both sides were hot when energized? But then I > remembered what you said about the Switches and their role in my Test > Procedure - Is this right? One side of the Fuse Holder is Hot, and when > the switch is switched on the circuit is completed? Hmmm,... No, I guess > both sides of the fuse holder could be either hot or negative depending on > the design? Right? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Could someone have left the courtesy light / map light turned on? Might be as simple as that... - Max Charleston SC On Mon, Jul 23, 2018 at 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here > in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: Briggs and Stratton invents the hybrid
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Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Basic electrical circuitry is actually quite simple. Pretend that an electron wishes to get from the positive side of the battery to the negative side. (They actually go the other way, due to a bad naming guess by the original scientists, but that's irrelevant.) How does it get there? Follow its journey along the map (schematic diagram) from the hotter side (positive) to the notter side (negative) of each circuit element along the way. As it travels through each element designed to extract energy from this motion (lights, motors) some work is performed, and some heat is generated. As it travels through everything else, some heat is generated. (Ideally, not much.) Open switches, or fuses, or wires, stop the journey. More than one moving electron is required for any significant action to take place. For example, your test light probably needs 3 quintillion of them a second to light at full brilliance. You use it by inserting it into a path, or bridging an open path, and seeing if (m)any of the little buggers now have an intact road they can travel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Whichever circuit has a blown fuse, is not the circuit that's killing batteries. The blown fuse stops the current draw. There's likely a big issue on that circuit, but it's a separate issue from the dead battery. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Short
It's time to change the subject back to short - sorry it got off topic - Larry On 07/23/2018 10:24 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: That was my fault - when I reported what happened when checking my fuses I used the wrong thread to reply to - Sorry -- Larry On 07/23/2018 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. Oops, not this thread, the short thread. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
That was my fault - when I reported what happened when checking my fuses I used the wrong thread to reply to - Sorry -- Larry On 07/23/2018 7:54 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. Oops, not this thread, the short thread. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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That is the odd thing - Fuse #8 blew but Fuse #9 is the one that turned off the test light as I went through the fuses disconnecting each one. But the fuse blowing could have been a fluke, perhaps? I'll look at the Relay Diagrams and pull the Courtesy Light Relay, then put #9 back in and see what happens. Thanks for the suggestion - Larry On 07/23/2018 8:11 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Terminal 86 is the German label for power supply connection at the relay. I suspect the curtesy light relay, it's the usual failure. Draws a couple amps all the time when dead. Never known it to blow the fuse though. Your lost wire could be pinched in the dash somewhere and grounded, too. That might be a chore to find. You can test the relay by unplugging it -- on the 124's it's under the steering column and fairly easy to get to. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] One For Dan P
Wish it were feasible to transplant the 1991 diesel and all it's systems into my 2006 E350. Probably be a bear to do if possible at all for less than the price of a newer diesel. BTW, When did MB stop importing any diesel equipped cars into the US? I assume they're still being made and sold in other markets... LarryT On 07/22/2018 6:46 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: RE: engine swap for 110.110.10 (190Dc/200D) OM617 won't fit. You'd have to start with a 6 cyl vergasser for that. Om616 will fit, if from a 4 speed car, and with relocation/remote oelfilter. OM601 would probably work, probably with additional massive relocations. OM 616 bell housing will bolt up to the original trans ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I was camping, a Coleman Lantern friend who also owns the Whately Engine Museum, had a gathering. We camped and lit lanterns and watched old engines run. He calls his big engines "Medium sized" but I consider them HUGE. 4' flywheels aren't uncommon... I've got video of him starting a "semi-diesel" which is really a hot bulb diesel. To start it you put a big torch on what looks a like a trailer hitch ball. The "injector" drips fuel onto the shaft the ball is part of inside the cylinder and "vaporizes" which is maybe a generous term, the fuel. That one blows smoke rings when its running... I'll post some pictures and video once I get them ready. -Curt On Sunday, July 22, 2018, 2:47:12 PM EDT, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone sleep in? LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Terminal 86 is the German label for power supply connection at the relay. I suspect the curtesy light relay, it's the usual failure. Draws a couple amps all the time when dead. Never known it to blow the fuse though. Your lost wire could be pinched in the dash somewhere and grounded, too. That might be a chore to find. You can test the relay by unplugging it -- on the 124's it's under the steering column and fairly easy to get to. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
> On July 23, 2018 at 7:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in > this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. Oops, not this thread, the short thread. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I believe Relay Comfort Circuitry is the delay relay for the dome lights staying on after you close the door. I believe both that and the radio itself have been accused, right here in this thread, of causing battery killing current draws. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Is the List Down?
Hi Max, Just finished testing the fuses - I disconnected the Neg Cable Connector - Then with the Test Light connected between the Neg Cable and Neg Post - I found the light stayed Lit the whole time except when I got to #9. I pulled the top of the Fuse Holder away from the top of each fuse and there was no change in the way the light acted except when I got to #9. The Light went out when I removed the fuse and then when I put the fuse back the light came back on. I then pulled it again. BTW, I remembered that when I R'd the AC Evap. I lost the power wire that makes the antenna go up/down when the radio is turned on - it disappeared into the area under/behind the console and after 2 days of searching I gave up and found another place to get 12v when the key turned on. I ended up tying into the light in the glove box for power to raise/lower the antenna. Maybe that wire came in contact with the chassis? But the good thing is, I am beginning to understand how to test, how the test work and what they tell me - Thanks to you, Peter and Craig. I still have a long way to go before I can operate by myself, but at least I understand more about what I'm doing. I'm still confused by Peter's comment about testing and the "Hot Side of the Fuse". I thought both sides were hot when energized? But then I remembered what you said about the Switches and their role in my Test Procedure - Is this right? One side of the Fuse Holder is Hot, and when the switch is switched on the circuit is completed? Hmmm,... No, I guess both sides of the fuse holder could be either hot or negative depending on the design? Right? Oh well, as long as the lights come on when I flip the switch. ;-) Anyway. here's the list of associated things on circuit #9: Diagnostic Term. # 6 Hazard Warning Light Clock Front Roof Light Radio Vanity Mirror Light Relay Comfort Circuitry Term 86. I have no idea what Term 6 and 86 do or where they are located but I doubt either would have a short. I'll start troubleshooting the things on this circuit. Comments anyone? LarryT 91 300D On 07/22/2018 3:32 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Just a slow day perhaps. - Max Charleston SC On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 2:47 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Hey Guys. Haven't seen any emails since 2;26 this morning. Did everyone sleep in? LarryT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
