Re: [MBZ] 1982 300TD engages another bidding war on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Sold for $35K.  Unbelievable.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:56 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Beige/palomino wagon with an inoperable cruise control.   I may just have
> to tart up my wagon and sell into the frenzy.
>
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-17/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-11-06
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Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

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No photo of the trunk showing the badge so I am suspicious.

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> That would be nice
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

That sounds like a good system.   Whatever you do, obviously, you want 
triangles.   Big triangles are more good than small triangles.


MG via Mercedes wrote on 11/6/19 8:36 PM:
I'm not an engineer and haven't even played one on TV so I'm not 
making any claims that this will work for you.


  What my dad and I did on the porch we built on his house was to run 
cables with turnbuckles for adjustment from both inner corners to the 
opposite outside corners of the roof. That has held for over 35 years. 
Going just to the center may work but probably not as well.
In his porch the walls are sliding glass doors and the roof is 
aluminum 2x8 hollow beams with fiberglass corrugated panels on them. 
Probably less resistance to shifting and racking than the roof you 
have with the plywood. The whole porch is about 20x35 with monolithic 
slab on the ground so no racking or shifting of the floor there. In 
your case I might be very easily talked into doing the same cable 
tensioning under the floor just because.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

[MG via Mercedes]

I'm not an engineer and haven't even played one on 
TV so I'm not making any claims that this will 
work for you.


  What my dad and I did on the porch we built on 
his house was to run cables with turnbuckles for 
adjustment from both inner corners to the opposite 
outside corners of the roof. That has held for 
over 35 years. Going just to the center may work 
but probably not as well.
In his porch the walls are sliding glass doors and 
the roof is aluminum 2x8 hollow beams with 
fiberglass corrugated panels on them. Probably 
less resistance to shifting and racking than the 
roof you have with the plywood. The whole porch is 
about 20x35 with monolithic slab on the ground so 
no racking or shifting of the floor there. In your 
case I might be very easily talked into doing the 
same cable tensioning under the floor just because.


MG

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:

On 06/11/2019 11:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Not registered, but I have done some on various projects.   Truss 
design, floor /roof load bearing etc.   What are you working with? 
Wood? Steel? concrete? combination?


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 11/6/19 11:19 AM:
I have a question I would like to pose to someone who knows more 
about the subject than I do.


I won't bore you with the details unless some one or more of you 
folks think you can offer some insight (or, maybe I will anyway, but 
I will need to figure out how to describe the issue first unless I 
post photos or drawings too).


Randy




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I shall try to describe the issue in words but if that proves to be a 
problem, I will either post some sketches or photos or both.


We have a screened porch on the back side of our house. It is roughly 10 
X 20 and the inner side is attached to the top of the basement wall of 
the house. The outer edge of the deck sits on a laminated beam that 
rests on 3 bell piles.


The "walls" are essentially 4 X 4 cedar posts standing on the deck and 
attached to a rim joist at the top. There are removable screen panels 
installed between the posts. There are 4 panels on the outer wall 
parallel to the house and 3 on each end.


The roof consists of a shed roof of 5/8 or 3/4 (cannot recall which)  
plywood on 2 X 10 rafters. The inner end is attached to the wall of the 
2 storey house. The outer ends sit on the rim joist attached to the top 
of the posts.


We built this in the summer of 1984. It sat pretty much perfectly true 
for many years. However we have had some dry summers and the porch and 
the house have moved a bit. The bell piles settled and a couple of 
summers ago I jacked the outer edge of the deck up about 4 inches along 
its length and inserted blocking on top of the 3 piles to level the 
porch as it was then lower on the outer edge than on the inner edge.


The outer wall of the porch also began to lean to the south. It was out 
by 2 inches or more on 8 feet. This summer, I pulled it back to plumb 
using a chain come-along.


My issue, is how to further brace it so that it will hopefully retain 
the current plumb status if I remove the come-along. I do not really 
want to put angled bracing in the "wall" of screens. My plan has been to 
put diagonal bracing in what would be the ceiling if it had a ceiling. I 
have collected materials to  make 2 roughly 10 foot steel rods with turn 
buckles in them that I propose to install. The plan is to attach the 
inner end of one to the rim joist at each end where the rim joist meets 
the wall of the house and to attach the outer end to the rim joist at 
the middle point of the outside wall.


I do wonder if this will be sufficient to hold the porch in place. The 
plywood sheathing on the roof obviously did not prevent the wall from 
leaning and I assume that my steel rods must act somewhat similarly to 
the roof sheathing.


Opinions will be appreciated.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] W211 project car

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Junk yard cheap. Or new reproduction. 

--FT
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> On Nov 6, 2019, at 7:42 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> What's a bumper cover cost? (CoPart knows me pretty well, they send me links 
> to 8 cars and I nearly always click on one or two)
> https://www.copart.com/lot/38758599
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Re: [MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I can't see the sun. Which way is south, and which wall is leaning?  
Left end; Right end; Outer wall?


Where do you have the comealong run?

I had a similar porch in Ames, made of redwood 4x4s set on a slab on 
grade.  THe redwood was rotting.   I tore it down, and put an addition 
on.   (not a cheap or quick solution, but a great improvement.)


From What I can understand so far, I think your proposed fixes are good 
choices for the assumption that nothing can obstruct the screen windows


One other thought, assuming it is the outer end that has gone south: 
2x10 blocking between the center of the joists, and along the end, and 
extra blocking where the side posts are.


If you can modify the assumption somewhat:  something like a 5/32 dia 
cable diagonal with sufficient attachment.   If you can straighten it 
with a comealong, there is not a lot of force needed to correct it and 
hold things in place.


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 11/6/19 4:43 PM:
Not really the issue. I don't know that it will settle any more and I 
don't think it is going to come back up either.
The issue is keeping the walls fairly plumb when there is no sheathing 
on the walls without putting any diagonal bracing in the wall if I can 
help it.


Randy


On 06/11/2019 4:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Excavate and put the off house wall on footings below the frost line?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] This looks interesting

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That would be nice

--FT
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[MBZ] This looks interesting

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2404168306500307/


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Dan - approve my photo please

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 16:35:26 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Randy

You need to send an email to his personal address -- which I have done by
copying that address on this email.


Craig

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[MBZ] W211 project car

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

What's a bumper cover cost? (CoPart knows me pretty well, they send me links to 
8 cars and I nearly always click on one or two)
https://www.copart.com/lot/38758599

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[MBZ] Your Benz dollars at work

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The local stealer

https://www.postandcourier.com/business/baker-motor-co-breaks-ground-on-new-m-dealership-in/article_03790df2-f9d5-11e9-acbe-0ba882d14121.html

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Group 49 Batteries

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

That's my recollection as well, inadequate worksmanship in wiring the stuff. 
And IIRC the victims' answer to that is "Tesla picked the installers".

Mitch.

> On November 6, 2019 at 3:43 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>  Actually Tesla has sold some panels that have caught fire. I'm 99% certain 
> thats an install issue,

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Re: [MBZ] 124/201 ball joint tool

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I think the ball's in the seller's court. 
Either he ships as previously agreed (and paid), or cancels/refunds due to 
error.
Mitch

> On November 6, 2019 at 3:56 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Actually I've had good experience with eBay when it comes to returns.  
> Keep pushing until you get satisfaction.  Personally, rather than paying 
> such a high increase I'd cancel my bid if Ebay or Paypal fail to come to 
> your aid.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Not really the issue. I don't know that it will settle any more and I 
don't think it is going to come back up either.
The issue is keeping the walls fairly plumb when there is no sheathing 
on the walls without putting any diagonal bracing in the wall if I can 
help it.


Randy


On 06/11/2019 4:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Excavate and put the off house wall on footings below the frost line?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Excavate and put the off house wall on footings below the frost line?

Mitch.

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[MBZ] Hey Dan - approve my photo please

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

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On 06/11/2019 11:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Not registered, but I have done some on various projects.   Truss 
design, floor /roof load bearing etc.   What are you working with? 
Wood? Steel? concrete? combination?


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 11/6/19 11:19 AM:
I have a question I would like to pose to someone who knows more 
about the subject than I do.


I won't bore you with the details unless some one or more of you 
folks think you can offer some insight (or, maybe I will anyway, but 
I will need to figure out how to describe the issue first unless I 
post photos or drawings too).


Randy




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I shall try to describe the issue in words but if that proves to be a 
problem, I will either post some sketches or photos or both.


We have a screened porch on the back side of our house. It is roughly 10 
X 20 and the inner side is attached to the top of the basement wall of 
the house. The outer edge of the deck sits on a laminated beam that 
rests on 3 bell piles.


The "walls" are essentially 4 X 4 cedar posts standing on the deck and 
attached to a rim joist at the top. There are removable screen panels 
installed between the posts. There are 4 panels on the outer wall 
parallel to the house and 3 on each end.


The roof consists of a shed roof of 5/8 or 3/4 (cannot recall which)  
plywood on 2 X 10 rafters. The inner end is attached to the wall of the 
2 storey house. The outer ends sit on the rim joist attached to the top 
of the posts.


We built this in the summer of 1984. It sat pretty much perfectly true 
for many years. However we have had some dry summers and the porch and 
the house have moved a bit. The bell piles settled and a couple of 
summers ago I jacked the outer edge of the deck up about 4 inches along 
its length and inserted blocking on top of the 3 piles to level the 
porch as it was then lower on the outer edge than on the inner edge.


The outer wall of the porch also began to lean to the south. It was out 
by 2 inches or more on 8 feet. This summer, I pulled it back to plumb 
using a chain come-along.


My issue, is how to further brace it so that it will hopefully retain 
the current plumb status if I remove the come-along. I do not really 
want to put angled bracing in the "wall" of screens. My plan has been to 
put diagonal bracing in what would be the ceiling if it had a ceiling. I 
have collected materials to  make 2 roughly 10 foot steel rods with turn 
buckles in them that I propose to install. The plan is to attach the 
inner end of one to the rim joist at each end where the rim joist meets 
the wall of the house and to attach the outer end to the rim joist at 
the middle point of the outside wall.


I do wonder if this will be sufficient to hold the porch in place. The 
plywood sheathing on the roof obviously did not prevent the wall from 
leaning and I assume that my steel rods must act somewhat similarly to 
the roof sheathing.


Opinions will be appreciated.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] W116 scraping noise on left turns

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

No need to check -- I know they are shot, and I have new ones. Just
haven't had time to replace them yet.

Allan


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> Also it's easy to check the mounts.
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:33 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Motor mounts make sense... fan hitting the fan shroud when the engine
>> shifts in a turn.  Inspect the fan and see if its close to the shroud at
>> one point and adjust accordingly as a temporary fix.
>>
>> Jaime
>>

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Re: [MBZ] 124/201 ball joint tool

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

eBay and PayPal favor the buyer in almost every situation, which is good for 
you *if* you’re the buyer. If you’re the seller, you’re screwed almost.

I sold a laptop a few years ago and the seller got seller’s remorse almost 
three months after they took delivery. Said they wanted to return it as it was 
“defective”. I told them that if they returned it to me I would consider a 
refund as long as it hadn’t been abused. They went dark.

A day or two later I got an email from PayPal saying they were going to debit 
my account for the computer. I told them to stuff it. Since I use a blind bank 
account to fund my PayPal payments and purchases and I keep like $5 in the 
account so the bank won’t close it, they took that but got nothing more. They 
emailed and even called me. I told them I wouldn’t refund a dime until I got 
the computer back, and provided a copy of the email I had sent the buyer 
stating so.

They suspended my account. Big deal.

About six months later I tried using it and it was active again. I’ve used it 
since and there’s never been a peep out of them.

Jerks.

-D

 
> On Nov 6, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Curly is providing absolutely the best advice!Last  month I returned 2 
> laptops (different sellers) who advertised Back Lit Keyboards which neither 
> had. Both advertised Returns and both paid the return shipping.  But one 
> withheld $100 to "Service and clean" the computer (I had it for less than 24 
> hours) and I filed a complaint.  I rec'd a answer from ebay in less than 12 
> hours and eBay actually paid my full Return Cost no questions asked - other 
> than the basics about name/address, etc.  Because the Seller advertised 
> Backlit Keyboards which neither had.\
> 
> Actually I've had good experience with eBay when it comes to returns.  Keep 
> pushing until you get satisfaction.  Personally, rather than paying such a 
> high increase I'd cancel my bid if Ebay or Paypal fail to come to your aid.
> 
> Good luck!
> Larry
> 
> On 11/5/2019 10:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just file the complaint with fleabay.   Then wait for their pronouncement.   
>> IF that fails, complain to paypal.   THey'll give back your money
>> 
>> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/5/19 8:02 PM:
>>> I am tempted to tell them to pound sand. Not only that, they have several 
>>> other listings for the same item with the same shipping amount other than 
>>> this listing that says 7 sold.
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Re: [MBZ] 124/201 ball joint tool

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Curly is providing absolutely the best advice!    Last  month I returned 
2 laptops (different sellers) who advertised Back Lit Keyboards which 
neither had. Both advertised Returns and both paid the return shipping.  
But one withheld $100 to "Service and clean" the computer (I had it for 
less than 24 hours) and I filed a complaint.  I rec'd a answer from ebay 
in less than 12 hours and eBay actually paid my full Return Cost no 
questions asked - other than the basics about name/address, etc.  
Because the Seller advertised Backlit Keyboards which neither had.\


Actually I've had good experience with eBay when it comes to returns.  
Keep pushing until you get satisfaction.  Personally, rather than paying 
such a high increase I'd cancel my bid if Ebay or Paypal fail to come to 
your aid.


Good luck!
Larry

On 11/5/2019 10:34 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Just file the complaint with fleabay.   Then wait for their 
pronouncement.   IF that fails, complain to paypal.   THey'll give 
back your money


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/5/19 8:02 PM:
I am tempted to tell them to pound sand. Not only that, they have 
several other listings for the same item with the same shipping 
amount other than this listing that says 7 sold.



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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Group 49 Batteries

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Actually Tesla has sold some panels that have caught fire. I'm 99% certain 
thats an install issue, there is no good reason for panels to catch fire.
The other possibility is that the panels have built-in inverters. Inverters 
occasionally catch fire, panels themselves never catch fire.
I don't remember when we installed our first panel, 2015? 2016? Something like 
that...
-Curt

On Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 3:32:46 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 You're thinking of Teslas.

I have solar roof panels that have performed flawlessly since July 2016 -
no fires or any other issues.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 3:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Well, you had best not go there anyway if they have solar panels on the
> roof. They tend to catch fire.
>
> Randy
>
> On 06/11/2019 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Ditto, although I will praise them for their commitment to installing
> solar
> > energy panels on their  store roofs.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:48 AM ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, for the confusion.  With age the little grey cells don't always
> >> fire correctly.  Pepboys includes free installation with free red/green
> >> corrosion preventives.  And sorry Kaleb, I haven't been to a WalMart
> since
> >> they started putting American workers out of work with Chinese goods.
> If
> >> you see me go in one, call the guys in the white coats as I've gone
> crazy.
> >> But to each his own.
> >> Best Wishes,
> >> Roger
> >> Roger Hale
> >> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >> Monroe, Ga.
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Group 49 Batteries

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You're thinking of Teslas.

I have solar roof panels that have performed flawlessly since July 2016 -
no fires or any other issues.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 3:21 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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> Well, you had best not go there anyway if they have solar panels on the
> roof. They tend to catch fire.
>
> Randy
>
> On 06/11/2019 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Ditto, although I will praise them for their commitment to installing
> solar
> > energy panels on their  store roofs.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:48 AM ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Sorry, for the confusion.  With age the little grey cells don't always
> >> fire correctly.  Pepboys includes free installation with free red/green
> >> corrosion preventives.  And sorry Kaleb, I haven't been to a WalMart
> since
> >> they started putting American workers out of work with Chinese goods.
> If
> >> you see me go in one, call the guys in the white coats as I've gone
> crazy.
> >> But to each his own.
> >> Best Wishes,
> >> Roger
> >> Roger Hale
> >> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> >> Monroe, Ga.
> >> 770-267-0850
> >> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 E320

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Get a  w211 E220- they don't rust. The 210s are rust buckets here in the
North.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019, 1:27 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Had enough of rust with the Frontier.
>
> Thanks...
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > That's probably about $2500-$3000 too much.
> >
> > Issues?
> > 1. Rust
> > 2. Transmission conductor plate
> > 3. Rust
> > 4. Crank position sensor
> > 5. Rust
> > 6. AC compressor
> > 7. Rust
> > 8. Temp display
> > 9. Neglected maintenance items including
> >
> >
> > 1. Cabin filters
> > 2. Motor mounts
> > 3. Plugs and wires
> > 4. Transmission fluid and filter
> > 5. Air filter
> > 6. Voltage regulator (brushes)
> > 7. Coolant flush
> > 8. Minor oil leaks (valve covers and breathers)
> >
> > There is other stuff that I haven't experienced.
> >
> >
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/relatively-common-issues-for-the-w210.1346468/#/topics/1346468?page=1
> >
> > https://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/MBZ_Tech_Index-W210.htm
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Group 49 Batteries

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Well, you had best not go there anyway if they have solar panels on the 
roof. They tend to catch fire.


Randy

On 06/11/2019 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Ditto, although I will praise them for their commitment to installing solar
energy panels on their  store roofs.


On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:48 AM ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Sorry, for the confusion.  With age the little grey cells don't always
fire correctly.  Pepboys includes free installation with free red/green
corrosion preventives.  And sorry Kaleb, I haven't been to a WalMart since
they started putting American workers out of work with Chinese goods.  If
you see me go in one, call the guys in the white coats as I've gone crazy.
But to each his own.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Group 49 Batteries

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ditto, although I will praise them for their commitment to installing solar
energy panels on their  store roofs.


On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:48 AM ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sorry, for the confusion.  With age the little grey cells don't always
> fire correctly.  Pepboys includes free installation with free red/green
> corrosion preventives.  And sorry Kaleb, I haven't been to a WalMart since
> they started putting American workers out of work with Chinese goods.  If
> you see me go in one, call the guys in the white coats as I've gone crazy.
> But to each his own.
> Best Wishes,
> Roger
> Roger Hale
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
> Monroe, Ga.
> 770-267-0850
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] W116 scraping noise on left turns

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Also it's easy to check the mounts.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 2:33 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> Motor mounts make sense... fan hitting the fan shroud when the engine
> shifts in a turn.  Inspect the fan and see if its close to the shroud at
> one point and adjust accordingly as a temporary fix.
>
> Jaime
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > 1979 300SD. On a hard/fast left turn I'll hear a metalic scraping
> > noise. Doesn't happen on right turns or slow left turns and doesn't
> > sound like a bad bearing (it's a scraping/rubbing sound, not a low
> > growl).
> >
> > I do need to refresh the rubber engine mounts. Any other likely causes
> > come to mind?
> >
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Desperate Popeyes chicken sandwich fan destroys

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I take full responsibility, but none of the blame.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 1:27 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That was California, and she only wrecked her own car.
> I am surprised she didn't get violent when employees refused to serve her.
>
> In Andrew's neck of the woods, they have knife fights over people cutting
> in line (line cutter got knifed).
>
>
> https://www.fox5dc.com/news/police-release-photo-of-deadly-maryland-popeyes-stabbing-suspect-id-victim
>
> > On November 6, 2019 at 11:36 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am amazed that no one got shot.
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 E320

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On November 6, 2019 at 2:52 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Check for bollard damage on the right side...
> 
> 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9LgxP7-bJA

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[MBZ] 1982 300TD engages another bidding war on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Beige/palomino wagon with an inoperable cruise control.   I may just have
to tart up my wagon and sell into the frenzy.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-mercedes-benz-300td-turbo-17/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-11-06
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 E320

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> Any common issues with those? I have no experience with MB gassers.

Check for bollard damage on the right side...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] W116 scraping noise on left turns

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Motor mounts make sense... fan hitting the fan shroud when the engine
shifts in a turn.  Inspect the fan and see if its close to the shroud at
one point and adjust accordingly as a temporary fix.

Jaime


On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 12:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> 1979 300SD. On a hard/fast left turn I'll hear a metalic scraping
> noise. Doesn't happen on right turns or slow left turns and doesn't
> sound like a bad bearing (it's a scraping/rubbing sound, not a low
> growl).
>
> I do need to refresh the rubber engine mounts. Any other likely causes
> come to mind?
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] W116 scraping noise on left turns

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Swaybar links?  (123 and 126 have these, don't know about 116)

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W116 scraping noise on left turns

Brake pads?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W116 scraping noise on left turns

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

New (with rebuilt calipers) within last 1,000 miles.

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Brake pads?
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] W116 scraping noise on left turns

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Brake pads?
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 2000 E320

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Had enough of rust with the Frontier.

Thanks...

Rick Knoble via Mercedes  writes:

> That's probably about $2500-$3000 too much. 
>
> Issues?
> 1. Rust
> 2. Transmission conductor plate
> 3. Rust
> 4. Crank position sensor
> 5. Rust
> 6. AC compressor
> 7. Rust
> 8. Temp display
> 9. Neglected maintenance items including
>
>
> 1. Cabin filters
> 2. Motor mounts
> 3. Plugs and wires
> 4. Transmission fluid and filter
> 5. Air filter
> 6. Voltage regulator (brushes)
> 7. Coolant flush
> 8. Minor oil leaks (valve covers and breathers)
>
> There is other stuff that I haven't experienced.
>
> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/relatively-common-issues-for-the-w210.1346468/#/topics/1346468?page=1
>
> https://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/MBZ_Tech_Index-W210.htm
>
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Desperate Popeyes chicken sandwich fan destroys

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

That was California, and she only wrecked her own car. 
I am surprised she didn't get violent when employees refused to serve her.

In Andrew's neck of the woods, they have knife fights over people cutting in 
line (line cutter got knifed).

https://www.fox5dc.com/news/police-release-photo-of-deadly-maryland-popeyes-stabbing-suspect-id-victim

> On November 6, 2019 at 11:36 AM Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am amazed that no one got shot.

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel treatments

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Power Service diesel treatment had some clouding at -20F, Howe's a bit more, 
Hot Shot's the least, Stanadyne 2nd place. Those 4 probably wouldn't have 
stopped an old MBZ from starting/running at -20. He didn't specify, but I hope 
the diesel he was testing was full-on summer fuel. Amsoil synthetic 2-stroke 
oil might be an interesting idea for lubricity, and it did great in his 
rustproofing test.

Power Service 9-1-1 (he didn't mention mix ratios of any of the products) 
didn't pour, nor would the untreated diesel. Amsoil 2 stroke oil flowed 
gloppily, but 9-1-1 didn't flow at all. For all I know he might have mixed the 
Amsoil at 50:1, which nobody does in diesel fuel in real life.

> On November 6, 2019 at 11:30 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So what's their conclusion?   I've always figured Howes was a 
> trustworthy brand for antigel on the few occasions when I needed some.   
> (Getting caught with summer fuel when it turns bitter cold)   Other than 
> that, I am mostly of the Dr Booth school.   The caveat is: Since 2007, 
> some lubricity needs to be added, mostly as B5 to B100.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Very good. I will post more info.

Randy

On 06/11/2019 11:23 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Not registered, but I have done some on various projects.   Truss 
design, floor /roof load bearing etc.   What are you working with? 
Wood? Steel? concrete? combination?


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 11/6/19 11:19 AM:
I have a question I would like to pose to someone who knows more 
about the subject than I do.


I won't bore you with the details unless some one or more of you 
folks think you can offer some insight (or, maybe I will anyway, but 
I will need to figure out how to describe the issue first unless I 
post photos or drawings too).


Randy




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Re: [MBZ] Desperate Popeyes chicken sandwich fan destroys

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Sheesh, where do think the flavour comes from ?

Randy


On 06/11/2019 11:33 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  Angie and I attempted to go to a new Popeyes in our area a few months ago. 
Got out of the car and the stench of old oil was so bad we got right back in 
the car and drove away...
-Curt

 On Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:05:39 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  *The woman, driving an early 2000s silver Mercedes, can be seen trying

to cut through a downtown LA drive-thru*

*https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7653215/Desperate-Popeyes-chicken-sandwich-fan-destroys-car-attempts-cut-line.html?ns_mchannel=rss=taboola_feed
*

*
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 E320

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

That's probably about $2500-$3000 too much. 

Issues?
1. Rust
2. Transmission conductor plate
3. Rust
4. Crank position sensor
5. Rust
6. AC compressor
7. Rust
8. Temp display
9. Neglected maintenance items including


1. Cabin filters
2. Motor mounts
3. Plugs and wires
4. Transmission fluid and filter
5. Air filter
6. Voltage regulator (brushes)
7. Coolant flush
8. Minor oil leaks (valve covers and breathers)

There is other stuff that I haven't experienced.

https://www.benzworld.org/threads/relatively-common-issues-for-the-w210.1346468/#/topics/1346468?page=1

https://www.pelicanparts.com/techarticles/MBZ_Tech_Index-W210.htm

Rick



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From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: November 6, 2019 11:19 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
Subject: [MBZ] 2000 E320


One is for sale here with 130K (posted on work internal message board),
asking $4,250.

Any common issues with those? I have no experience with MB gassers.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 E320

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I've got this 99 $600E320 I fixed the conductor plate in the 
transmission, 238kmi, runs well, in pretty nice shape, gets like 28mpg 
in mixed driving, seems like a very decent car.  This replaced the 99 
$500E300 which I really liked.  The W210 is not as solid as the 126s but 
seem quite competent, peppy, good handling. They have more electronics 
and nannies so factor dealing with all that into your decision.  I think 
they are prone to rust in the rust belt, mine are southern cars so that 
was not an issue.


$4250 sounds pretty dear for a near 20yo car, but then I am a bottom 
feeder.  If it's really nice maybe $3500 if you have that kind of money, 
but there are many of these around so looking around you might find a 
better deal.  If it is someone you know, has records, etc. would maybe 
be worth considering.  Poos could probably find dozens of them in FL, 
old retiree cars being let go.


--FT

On 11/6/19 12:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

One is for sale here with 130K (posted on work internal message board),
asking $4,250.

Any common issues with those? I have no experience with MB gassers.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Desperate Popeyes chicken sandwich fan destroys

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Angie and I attempted to go to a new Popeyes in our area a few months ago. Got 
out of the car and the stench of old oil was so bad we got right back in the 
car and drove away...
-Curt

On Wednesday, November 6, 2019, 10:05:39 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 *The woman, driving an early 2000s silver Mercedes, can be seen trying 
to cut through a downtown LA drive-thru*

*https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7653215/Desperate-Popeyes-chicken-sandwich-fan-destroys-car-attempts-cut-line.html?ns_mchannel=rss=taboola_feed
*

*
*

-- 
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Re: [MBZ] 124/201 ball joint tool

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Is a 124 control arm tempered?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not registered, but I have done some on various projects.   Truss 
design, floor /roof load bearing etc.   What are you working with? Wood? 
Steel? concrete? combination?


Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote on 11/6/19 11:19 AM:
I have a question I would like to pose to someone who knows more about 
the subject than I do.


I won't bore you with the details unless some one or more of you folks 
think you can offer some insight (or, maybe I will anyway, but I will 
need to figure out how to describe the issue first unless I post 
photos or drawings too).


Randy




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[MBZ] OT - do we have any structural engineers on the list?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I have a question I would like to pose to someone who knows more about 
the subject than I do.


I won't bore you with the details unless some one or more of you folks 
think you can offer some insight (or, maybe I will anyway, but I will 
need to figure out how to describe the issue first unless I post photos 
or drawings too).


Randy


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[MBZ] 2000 E320

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

One is for sale here with 130K (posted on work internal message board),
asking $4,250.

Any common issues with those? I have no experience with MB gassers.

Allan

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[MBZ] W116 scraping noise on left turns

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

1979 300SD. On a hard/fast left turn I'll hear a metalic scraping
noise. Doesn't happen on right turns or slow left turns and doesn't
sound like a bad bearing (it's a scraping/rubbing sound, not a low
growl).

I do need to refresh the rubber engine mounts. Any other likely causes
come to mind?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Desperate Popeyes chicken sandwich fan destroys

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I am amazed that no one got shot.

Randy

On 06/11/2019 9:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
*The woman, driving an early 2000s silver Mercedes, can be seen trying 
to cut through a downtown LA drive-thru*


*https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7653215/Desperate-Popeyes-chicken-sandwich-fan-destroys-car-attempts-cut-line.html?ns_mchannel=rss=taboola_feed 


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Re: [MBZ] FB123 Pierre Responds

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Better have asbestos trousers when you climb out of that car, or never 
forget to stick your leg waaay out before you try to stand up.


Randy

On 06/11/2019 10:26 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

This is what a competition exhaust, borderline acceptable for street/strip use, 
looks like.
People who run the exhaust up through the hood are either competing in tractor 
pulls or they also wear their pants on their head.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Diesel treatments

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

So what's their conclusion?   I've always figured Howes was a 
trustworthy brand for antigel on the few occasions when I needed some.   
(Getting caught with summer fuel when it turns bitter cold)   Other than 
that, I am mostly of the Dr Booth school.   The caveat is: Since 2007, 
some lubricity needs to be added, mostly as B5 to B100.


I think BG Or Howes Diesel Treat will do no harm.   Additives are mostly 
pouring money into the tank unnecessarily.



Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 11/6/19 8:40 AM:

For what it's worth, a Youtuber tests diesel fuel treatments.

I hadn't heard of Hot Shot's Secret before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=410=n8gDN_6esfs





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Re: [MBZ] Diesel treatments

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 09:40:12 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> For what it's worth, a Youtuber tests diesel fuel treatments.
> 
> I hadn't heard of Hot Shot's Secret before.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=410=n8gDN_6esfs

I have seen it advertised in trucking magazines.


Craig

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[MBZ] Buy my TurdSL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/562699494540443/

Mercedes 450 SEL.
Beaufort, SC· 14 hours ago 
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$2,000

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Seller's Description

Posting this for a friend, Mercedes project car 450 SEL coming with some 
accessories. For more details please contact: Mitch at [hidden information].


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Re: [MBZ] Desperate Popeyes chicken sandwich fan destroys

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Gots to gemmie sum dat chicken, fo so.

On Wed, Nov 6, 2019 at 7:05 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> *The woman, driving an early 2000s silver Mercedes, can be seen trying
> to cut through a downtown LA drive-thru*
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[MBZ] Desperate Popeyes chicken sandwich fan destroys

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

*The woman, driving an early 2000s silver Mercedes, can be seen trying 
to cut through a downtown LA drive-thru*


*https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7653215/Desperate-Popeyes-chicken-sandwich-fan-destroys-car-attempts-cut-line.html?ns_mchannel=rss=taboola_feed
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[MBZ] s class 420 for sell, was said to be an over engineered vehicle for its time

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I need money to support my meth habit

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-mercedes-class-luxury-sedan/7014516753.html

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[MBZ] Diesel treatments

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

For what it's worth, a Youtuber tests diesel fuel treatments.

I hadn't heard of Hot Shot's Secret before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=410=n8gDN_6esfs

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Re: [MBZ] Bosch Group 49 Batteries

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Sorry, for the confusion.  With age the little grey cells don't always fire 
correctly.  Pepboys includes free installation with free red/green corrosion 
preventives.  And sorry Kaleb, I haven't been to a WalMart since they started 
putting American workers out of work with Chinese goods.  If you see me go in 
one, call the guys in the white coats as I've gone crazy.  But to each his own.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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