Re: [MBZ] Not Diesel

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Around here all diesel pumps have green handles.  Usually the price is
advertised with green lighting on the signs but not always...

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 6:53 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Should be Illegal, since the goobers stick their noses into everything
> else, including your bedroom.
>
> Been a problem since BP took over Standard/Amoco/whatever stations in
> the 80s and installed green handles on Benzine pumps.
>
>
> Some places have yellow handles for Dissel.   Yellow has been adopted as
> the semi-standard color for E-85.   I've also seen yellow for E-15. It
> makes sense to standardize, and the INDUSTRY should do it, not the goobers.
>
>
>
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 3:23 PM:
> > Beware of green nozzles that aren't diesel...
> >
> > https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/6664-1163444.jpg
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Re: [MBZ] Pretty Honest W111 Coupe

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If that FL W111 had PW I might jump on it.

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 6:18 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Purdy dang rusty! Even for me! It would take heroic measures to restore
> it. It’s just the perfect configuration, euro with euro headlights, floor
> shift manual, sunroof, burgundy leather (all destroyed), ivory steering
> wheel, factory hitch.
>
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> > On Nov 17, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> >
> >
> > How rusty?
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Nov 17, 2019 5:37:19 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> Yes it’s a complete parts car. I don’t have the heart to part it out
> and would love to restore it but I don’t think I’ll ever get to it!
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> >>>
> >>> Your ask is $3,000?
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> 
>  I have one of those. 1968 250SE coupe, euro manual with sunroof and
> factory hitch. My ask is 24,000 less than that one! But..
> 
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> > On Nov 17, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >
> > That's beautiful. Digital odo too, interesting
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >> On 11/17/19 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> This looks pretty decent and the ask isn’t outrageous.:
> >>
> >>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-mercedes-benz-250se-dr/7021799601.html
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

BTW, sometimes just cleaning and lubing ratchets fixes the skipping and jamming!

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> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looks like there are all kinds of them on eBay. I’ve got to check model 
> numbers and get some ordered. I need a 3/8 and 1/4 ratchet rebuilt. My just 
> buy a 1/2” kit while I’m at it to have one on hand.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Still scrap if the rachet is broken.   Unless someone has a source for the 
>> rachet repair kits...
>> 
>> A working crappy cheep chinee rachet is better than a dead crapsman 
>> non-racheting paperweight.
>> 
>> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 6:19 PM:
>>> Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you 
>>> look online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. 
>>> If you have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do 
>>> not swap it out as these are quite desirable and valuable!
>>> Here is an example of a RHFT ratchet:
>>> 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/i/113902799468?chn=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=113902799468=596465665188=m=pla=9058761==6470719151=77538520277=pla-596465665188=1140476=119240224=EAIaIQobChMIjpyt-r3y5QIVDYiGCh0jWAUEEAQYBiABEgLeN_D_BwE
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

And use permatex 81950 aka RLL (red lube of love) in those craftsman RHFT 
ratchets:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/permatex-engine-assembly-lube-4-oz-81950/12028851-p?c3ch=PLA=12028851-P=pla_with_promotion_channel=online_code==aw.ds&=EAIaIQobChMIx7KB4tXy5QIVC2yGCh2HdgQfEAQYASABEgIPv_D_BwE

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=399682=Red+lube+love

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> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:51 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looks like there are all kinds of them on eBay. I’ve got to check model 
> numbers and get some ordered. I need a 3/8 and 1/4 ratchet rebuilt. My just 
> buy a 1/2” kit while I’m at it to have one on hand.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Still scrap if the rachet is broken.   Unless someone has a source for the 
>> rachet repair kits...
>> 
>> A working crappy cheep chinee rachet is better than a dead crapsman 
>> non-racheting paperweight.
>> 
>> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 6:19 PM:
>>> Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you 
>>> look online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. 
>>> If you have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do 
>>> not swap it out as these are quite desirable and valuable!
>>> Here is an example of a RHFT ratchet:
>>> 
>>> https://www.ebay.com/i/113902799468?chn=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=113902799468=596465665188=m=pla=9058761==6470719151=77538520277=pla-596465665188=1140476=119240224=EAIaIQobChMIjpyt-r3y5QIVDYiGCh0jWAUEEAQYBiABEgLeN_D_BwE
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Friend of mine has the looong version (18-20") of this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/174062074481

Needs rebuilding. He tried to get it fixed about 20 years ago and the guy at 
Sears just wanted to swap it out for a short one.

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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I got a lot of great Inside Track deals in the 1980s and 1990s, many of them on 
actual name brand items like Blackhawk jack stands.
I don't recall why I dropped it about 25 years ago. 

I thought Stanley bought Craftsman a few years ago and was recently making 
moves to return production to USA.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Cheep Jeep

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

If she drove it for 5 years for $200, that sets a very high bar for measuring 
the financial correctness of elderly MBZ driving.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Looks like there are all kinds of them on eBay. I’ve got to check model numbers 
and get some ordered. I need a 3/8 and 1/4 ratchet rebuilt. My just buy a 1/2” 
kit while I’m at it to have one on hand.

-D


> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Still scrap if the rachet is broken.   Unless someone has a source for the 
> rachet repair kits...
> 
> A working crappy cheep chinee rachet is better than a dead crapsman 
> non-racheting paperweight.
> 
> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 6:19 PM:
>> Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you 
>> look online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. If 
>> you have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do not 
>> swap it out as these are quite desirable and valuable!
>> Here is an example of a RHFT ratchet:
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/i/113902799468?chn=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=113902799468=596465665188=m=pla=9058761==6470719151=77538520277=pla-596465665188=1140476=119240224=EAIaIQobChMIjpyt-r3y5QIVDYiGCh0jWAUEEAQYBiABEgLeN_D_BwE
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

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https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/archive/index.php/t-392580.html

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> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Still scrap if the rachet is broken.   Unless someone has a source for the 
> rachet repair kits...
> 
> A working crappy cheep chinee rachet is better than a dead crapsman 
> non-racheting paperweight.
> 
> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 6:19 PM:
>> Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you 
>> look online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. If 
>> you have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do not 
>> swap it out as these are quite desirable and valuable!
>> Here is an example of a RHFT ratchet:
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/i/113902799468?chn=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=113902799468=596465665188=m=pla=9058761==6470719151=77538520277=pla-596465665188=1140476=119240224=EAIaIQobChMIjpyt-r3y5QIVDYiGCh0jWAUEEAQYBiABEgLeN_D_BwE
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Still scrap if the rachet is broken.   Unless someone has a source for 
the rachet repair kits...


A working crappy cheep chinee rachet is better than a dead crapsman 
non-racheting paperweight.


Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 6:19 PM:

Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you look 
online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. If you 
have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do not swap it 
out as these are quite desirable and valuable!
Here is an example of a RHFT ratchet:

https://www.ebay.com/i/113902799468?chn=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=113902799468=596465665188=m=pla=9058761==6470719151=77538520277=pla-596465665188=1140476=119240224=EAIaIQobChMIjpyt-r3y5QIVDYiGCh0jWAUEEAQYBiABEgLeN_D_BwE





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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There, I fixed it.   I have not seen a tire iron that would fit in a 
3/8" or 11 mm hole.   Not even my BMW motorsickle tire irons will.  They 
are small.   I always have a 12" extension in my box, and they work well 
for this job.   Still takes me more than a minute.   More like 10-15 to 
stop, open the hood drag out the tools change the spring and then clean 
up pack up and start off again.


The lug wrench has to be the 123 or later style (or late 115) as the 
earlier ones had a hook on the end to pop off the 110/111/112 center hubcap.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 6:11 PM:

All it takes is a 3/8 Dia rod/lug wrench/long (12" x 3/8) socket extension, a 
couple of 13mm wrenches and a minute and you can swap the spring out.

The lug wrench is the critical tool here.





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Re: [MBZ] Cheep Jeep

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Wow - sounds like both parties got a good deal - great work!

On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 4:19 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
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> Busy weekend, sort of
>
> Began when SWMBA finally got confirmation the ‘yota was on the move
> north.  Seems the best way to suck a car to the GWN is to initiate the
> process from this end instead of futzing around with generic and unproven
> brokers in the lower 48.  I truly appreciate the information provided by
> the list and contacted them to let them know the trouble had found a
> solution.  Local car shippers have a whole nationwide network to get
> vehicles out of distant geographic pockets and up here.  Must be all the
> DOD folks coming and going.  Something like 35k active members, with around
> 30k dependents.  Lots of cars and trucks.
>
> With the yota set to arrive in early December, me leaving for the holidays
> to SEA until 2020, the order came out to lose the Yeep.  I had taken a set
> of photos on a chilly, but very spectacular sunny day in a scenic setting a
> few weeks ago, which have been living on the computer awaiting the blessed
> event.
>
> SWMBA got the yeep from a co-worker five years ago for something like
> $2k.  While doing research for values and market conditions on the
> interwebs, I figured that would be the high end sales figure, but given the
> lack of service since her ownership, and the trade in suggested value of
> “you pay us”, I thought I might be well pleased to net $1k, but posted it
> at $1800.
>
> I expected the standard CL lag in interest and responses, and had not
> tracked down ALL the paperwork for the car (title) though I had a stack of
> records dating back to the window sticker and original financing docs in
> 1999.  After my morning classes Thursday I composed some insightful copy
> and loaded up the photo cache, even coughed up the $5, and posted the
> listing.
>
> Within three minutes of it going live, I was getting slammed with
> inquiries.  I suspected it would be too dark for anybody to actually look
> at the car, and I needed to get SWMBA back to the garage with the title
> before I could proceed.  That meant Friday or Saturday would be best.
> There was one fellow, very persistent, who lived just down the road and
> wanted to see the car ASAP.  Well, asap, after his wife got home, since she
> has the cash.  I said it would be fine to come over in the dark so they
> could test drive it, but it might take a smidge longer to close the deal.
> Not a problem, I was told, so they show up around 1840 and take it for a
> drive.  He comes back from the drive and will take the car, do I want some
> cash to hold it or will a hand shake do.  Shook hands and as they were
> walking back to their jeep, SWMBA arrives.  I send her for the title and
> the deal is done.  Cash, full price, and all within four hours of going
> live.
>
> I had a full day of classes to take Friday, but was down to one car, so I
> was UBER dude for SWMBA and got to try out her car on the slick icy roads.
> That Yeep drove like a buckboard wagon in comparison.  Not that her yota is
> all that.
>
> Saturday I wake up to this nasty white fluff floating out of the sky and
> gathering upon the ground.  In a most quixotic and futile attempt to keep
> the junk from becoming packed and developing into icy ridges when driven
> on, I was out there shoveling everything not nailed down well unto 2100.
> The weather app said the stuff was going to taper off a bit past midnight.
> This morning I removed my sore shoulders and rotund gut from bed and lit
> off the snow blower to clear the drive and sidewalk so SWMBA could head out
> to church.  Then I got to get my morning coffee and see that it will remain
> cold for two more days, then warm up and rain the rest of the week.
>
> Works for me.  I get back to the SL and SDL next Sunday.
>
> clay
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

These are considered the 240D of ratchets. Very tough!

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> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup, that’s one of mine. They’re all round head ratchets. Guess now I need to 
> look for rebuild kits…
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you 
>> look online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. If 
>> you have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do not 
>> swap it out as these are quite desirable and valuable!
>> Here is an example of a RHFT ratchet:
>> 
>> https://www.ebay.com/i/113902799468?chn=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=113902799468=596465665188=m=pla=9058761==6470719151=77538520277=pla-596465665188=1140476=119240224=EAIaIQobChMIjpyt-r3y5QIVDYiGCh0jWAUEEAQYBiABEgLeN_D_BwE
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> I just googled this and it seems that the (Lowe’s) stores are misinformed. 
>>> Corporate says they’ll honor “all lifetime warranties no matter where the 
>>> Craftsman tool was purchased.”
>>> 
>>> https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/will-lowes-honor-craftsman-lifetime-warranties
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Guess I’m heading back over there some time soon with a copy of this 
>>> article and my ratchets.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Neither Ace nor Lowe’s will honor warranties on my Craftsman tools, many 
 of which are second generation tools. I’ve got two ratchets that are worn 
 out right now and need the little rebuild kits they used to give you. Both 
 retailers told me “tough beans” when I asked for replacement parts or even 
 a replacement ratchet for both.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Crapsman is and has been at ace hardware also.They have not warranted 
> a tool for me for probably 40 years.  THey are even crappier now.   On 
> fleabay, clowns are piecing out old crapsman sockets and wrenches for 3x 
> list price.
> 
> Better off with tools from HF, or home despot, or even lows cobalt.
> 
> As for HF insider: NO
> 
> 
> Craig via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 5:15 PM:
>> I was at Harbor Freight today and noticed their pitches for their
>> Inside Track Club.
>> 
>> Is this worth it?
>> 
>> I was also at Lowes and noticed Craftsman tools and toolboxes. Lowes has
>> bought the Craftsman name and will honor the warranty on existing tools.
>> They had all kinds of tools, which looked like the Craftsman tools I had
>> seen in the past.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup, that’s one of mine. They’re all round head ratchets. Guess now I need to 
look for rebuild kits…

-D


> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:19 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you 
> look online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. If 
> you have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do not 
> swap it out as these are quite desirable and valuable!
> Here is an example of a RHFT ratchet:
> 
> https://www.ebay.com/i/113902799468?chn=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=113902799468=596465665188=m=pla=9058761==6470719151=77538520277=pla-596465665188=1140476=119240224=EAIaIQobChMIjpyt-r3y5QIVDYiGCh0jWAUEEAQYBiABEgLeN_D_BwE
>  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> 
>> I just googled this and it seems that the (Lowe’s) stores are misinformed. 
>> Corporate says they’ll honor “all lifetime warranties no matter where the 
>> Craftsman tool was purchased.”
>> 
>> https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/will-lowes-honor-craftsman-lifetime-warranties
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Guess I’m heading back over there some time soon with a copy of this article 
>> and my ratchets.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Neither Ace nor Lowe’s will honor warranties on my Craftsman tools, many of 
>>> which are second generation tools. I’ve got two ratchets that are worn out 
>>> right now and need the little rebuild kits they used to give you. Both 
>>> retailers told me “tough beans” when I asked for replacement parts or even 
>>> a replacement ratchet for both.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Crapsman is and has been at ace hardware also.They have not warranted 
 a tool for me for probably 40 years.  THey are even crappier now.   On 
 fleabay, clowns are piecing out old crapsman sockets and wrenches for 3x 
 list price.
 
 Better off with tools from HF, or home despot, or even lows cobalt.
 
 As for HF insider: NO
 
 
 Craig via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 5:15 PM:
> I was at Harbor Freight today and noticed their pitches for their
> Inside Track Club.
> 
> Is this worth it?
> 
> I was also at Lowes and noticed Craftsman tools and toolboxes. Lowes has
> bought the Craftsman name and will honor the warranty on existing tools.
> They had all kinds of tools, which looked like the Craftsman tools I had
> seen in the past.
> 
> 
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> 
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yeah but they’ll swap your worn out ratchets with Asian made ones. If you look 
online, you might be able to buy rebuild kits for your USA ratchets. If you 
have a vintage craftsman RHFT (round head fine tooth) ratchet, do not swap it 
out as these are quite desirable and valuable!
Here is an example of a RHFT ratchet:

https://www.ebay.com/i/113902799468?chn=ps=1=1=711-117182-37290-0=2=113902799468=596465665188=m=pla=9058761==6470719151=77538520277=pla-596465665188=1140476=119240224=EAIaIQobChMIjpyt-r3y5QIVDYiGCh0jWAUEEAQYBiABEgLeN_D_BwE

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> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I just googled this and it seems that the (Lowe’s) stores are misinformed. 
> Corporate says they’ll honor “all lifetime warranties no matter where the 
> Craftsman tool was purchased.”
> 
> https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/will-lowes-honor-craftsman-lifetime-warranties
> 
> Guess I’m heading back over there some time soon with a copy of this article 
> and my ratchets.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Neither Ace nor Lowe’s will honor warranties on my Craftsman tools, many of 
>> which are second generation tools. I’ve got two ratchets that are worn out 
>> right now and need the little rebuild kits they used to give you. Both 
>> retailers told me “tough beans” when I asked for replacement parts or even a 
>> replacement ratchet for both.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Crapsman is and has been at ace hardware also.They have not warranted a 
>>> tool for me for probably 40 years.  THey are even crappier now.   On 
>>> fleabay, clowns are piecing out old crapsman sockets and wrenches for 3x 
>>> list price.
>>> 
>>> Better off with tools from HF, or home despot, or even lows cobalt.
>>> 
>>> As for HF insider: NO
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 5:15 PM:
 I was at Harbor Freight today and noticed their pitches for their
 Inside Track Club.
 
 Is this worth it?
 
 I was also at Lowes and noticed Craftsman tools and toolboxes. Lowes has
 bought the Craftsman name and will honor the warranty on existing tools.
 They had all kinds of tools, which looked like the Craftsman tools I had
 seen in the past.
 
 
 Craig
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

All it takes is a tire iron/lug wrench, a couple of 13mm wrenches and a minute 
and you can swap the spring out.

The lug wrench is the critical tool here.

-D

> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:46:52 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I had a spring break.  Not a bad idea to carry a spare, or install new 
>> every 10 yrs or so as preventative.
>> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 11:24 AM:
>>> I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is
>>> probably a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to
>>> install.
> 
> So how does the spring work with the tensioner so it can be replaced in
> less than a minute? It must be quite different than the OM602 tensioner.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just googled this and it seems that the (Lowe’s) stores are misinformed. 
Corporate says they’ll honor “all lifetime warranties no matter where the 
Craftsman tool was purchased.”

https://www.wcpo.com/money/consumer/dont-waste-your-money/will-lowes-honor-craftsman-lifetime-warranties

Guess I’m heading back over there some time soon with a copy of this article 
and my ratchets.

-D


> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Neither Ace nor Lowe’s will honor warranties on my Craftsman tools, many of 
> which are second generation tools. I’ve got two ratchets that are worn out 
> right now and need the little rebuild kits they used to give you. Both 
> retailers told me “tough beans” when I asked for replacement parts or even a 
> replacement ratchet for both.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Crapsman is and has been at ace hardware also.They have not warranted a 
>> tool for me for probably 40 years.  THey are even crappier now.   On 
>> fleabay, clowns are piecing out old crapsman sockets and wrenches for 3x 
>> list price.
>> 
>> Better off with tools from HF, or home despot, or even lows cobalt.
>> 
>> As for HF insider: NO
>> 
>> 
>> Craig via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 5:15 PM:
>>> I was at Harbor Freight today and noticed their pitches for their
>>> Inside Track Club.
>>> 
>>> Is this worth it?
>>> 
>>> I was also at Lowes and noticed Craftsman tools and toolboxes. Lowes has
>>> bought the Craftsman name and will honor the warranty on existing tools.
>>> They had all kinds of tools, which looked like the Craftsman tools I had
>>> seen in the past.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Neither Ace nor Lowe’s will honor warranties on my Craftsman tools, many of 
which are second generation tools. I’ve got two ratchets that are worn out 
right now and need the little rebuild kits they used to give you. Both 
retailers told me “tough beans” when I asked for replacement parts or even a 
replacement ratchet for both.

-D


> On Nov 17, 2019, at 7:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Crapsman is and has been at ace hardware also.They have not warranted a 
> tool for me for probably 40 years.  THey are even crappier now.   On fleabay, 
> clowns are piecing out old crapsman sockets and wrenches for 3x list price.
> 
> Better off with tools from HF, or home despot, or even lows cobalt.
> 
> As for HF insider: NO
> 
> 
> Craig via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 5:15 PM:
>> I was at Harbor Freight today and noticed their pitches for their
>> Inside Track Club.
>> 
>> Is this worth it?
>> 
>> I was also at Lowes and noticed Craftsman tools and toolboxes. Lowes has
>> bought the Craftsman name and will honor the warranty on existing tools.
>> They had all kinds of tools, which looked like the Craftsman tools I had
>> seen in the past.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal

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On Sun, 17 Nov 2019 17:46:52 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I had a spring break.  Not a bad idea to carry a spare, or install new 
> every 10 yrs or so as preventative.
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 11:24 AM:
> > I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is
> > probably a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to
> > install.

So how does the spring work with the tensioner so it can be replaced in
less than a minute? It must be quite different than the OM602 tensioner.


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Re: [MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Crapsman is and has been at ace hardware also.    They have not 
warranted a tool for me for probably 40 years.  THey are even crappier 
now.   On fleabay, clowns are piecing out old crapsman sockets and 
wrenches for 3x list price.


Better off with tools from HF, or home despot, or even lows cobalt.

As for HF insider: NO


Craig via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 5:15 PM:

I was at Harbor Freight today and noticed their pitches for their
Inside Track Club.

Is this worth it?

I was also at Lowes and noticed Craftsman tools and toolboxes. Lowes has
bought the Craftsman name and will honor the warranty on existing tools.
They had all kinds of tools, which looked like the Craftsman tools I had
seen in the past.


Craig





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Re: [MBZ] Not Diesel

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Should be Illegal, since the goobers stick their noses into everything 
else, including your bedroom.


Been a problem since BP took over Standard/Amoco/whatever stations in 
the 80s and installed green handles on Benzine pumps.



Some places have yellow handles for Dissel.   Yellow has been adopted as 
the semi-standard color for E-85.   I've also seen yellow for E-15. It 
makes sense to standardize, and the INDUSTRY should do it, not the goobers.




Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 3:23 PM:

Beware of green nozzles that aren't diesel...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/6664-1163444.jpg





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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I had a spring break.  Not a bad idea to carry a spare, or install new 
every 10 yrs or so as preventative.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 11:24 AM:

I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is probably 
a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to install.





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Re: [MBZ] Semi-OT

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

On my rusty crypsler rims, (steel) I left it bare and the goop held.  
For alum, I htink you can leave it bare or paint with anything for 
alum.  (Rusoleum makes an alum primer.   That alone should be plenty. or 
a spray of KILZ should work. Kilz is pretty sticky.


Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote on 11/17/19 9:42 AM:

Alles.
Thanks for the replies.
I have my own ancient tyre machine and the goop (rubber cement) that seals
rims.
My problem is that the sealant works but ( IMO) that the air is escaping
via the very thin layer of corrosion under the paint.
Corrosion and paint and layers of rubber sealant have been removed from the
tire sealing area, so was wondering what paint to put on the raw aluminum
alloy?
Wurth's ? or ? Or just leave it bare?
TIA.
Fred.




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Re: [MBZ] Pretty Honest W111 Coupe

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Purdy dang rusty! Even for me! It would take heroic measures to restore it. 
It’s just the perfect configuration, euro with euro headlights, floor shift 
manual, sunroof, burgundy leather (all destroyed), ivory steering wheel, 
factory hitch. 

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> On Nov 17, 2019, at 6:02 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> How rusty?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Nov 17, 2019 5:37:19 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>> Yes it’s a complete parts car. I don’t have the heart to part it out and 
>> would love to restore it but I don’t think I’ll ever get to it!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Your ask is $3,000?
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I have one of those. 1968 250SE coupe, euro manual with sunroof and 
 factory hitch. My ask is 24,000 less than that one! But..
 
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> On Nov 17, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's beautiful. Digital odo too, interesting
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 11/17/19 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> This looks pretty decent and the ask isn’t outrageous.:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-mercedes-benz-250se-dr/7021799601.html
>> 
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[MBZ] Harbor Freight and Lowes

[Craig via Mercedes]

I was at Harbor Freight today and noticed their pitches for their
Inside Track Club.

Is this worth it?

I was also at Lowes and noticed Craftsman tools and toolboxes. Lowes has
bought the Craftsman name and will honor the warranty on existing tools.
They had all kinds of tools, which looked like the Craftsman tools I had
seen in the past.


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Re: [MBZ] Pretty Honest W111 Coupe

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

How rusty?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Nov 17, 2019 5:37:19 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes :
 
> Yes it’s a complete parts car. I don’t have the heart to part it out and 
> would love to restore it but I don’t think I’ll ever get to it!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Your ask is $3,000?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have one of those. 1968 250SE coupe, euro manual with sunroof and factory 
>>> hitch. My ask is 24,000 less than that one! But..
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 That's beautiful. Digital odo too, interesting
 
 --FT
 
 
> On 11/17/19 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> This looks pretty decent and the ask isn’t outrageous.:
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-mercedes-benz-250se-dr/7021799601.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheep Jeep

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Strong work.

I sold an 86 Cherokee some years ago in Houston, it was OK enough but 
the V6 engine was starting to have Unpleasant Noises and various other 
fits.  I put it on Auto Trader or something, and was getting lots of 
inquiries from Hablaers of Espanol who were wanting to ship it south, 
but none of them wanted to pay anything.  Finally some guy and his 16yo 
son came and bought it for a decent price, they were going to use it on 
their ranch and the boy was going to wrench on it.  So that worked out 
well and it was good for that.  I actually kinda liked it even though it 
was sort of a POS, the V6 engine was always crap, I think it was 
actually a GM V6 they had made worse, somehow.


--FT

On 11/17/19 5:18 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Busy weekend, sort of

Began when SWMBA finally got confirmation the ‘yota was on the move north.  
Seems the best way to suck a car to the GWN is to initiate the process from 
this end instead of futzing around with generic and unproven brokers in the 
lower 48.  I truly appreciate the information provided by the list and 
contacted them to let them know the trouble had found a solution.  Local car 
shippers have a whole nationwide network to get vehicles out of distant 
geographic pockets and up here.  Must be all the DOD folks coming and going.  
Something like 35k active members, with around 30k dependents.  Lots of cars 
and trucks.

With the yota set to arrive in early December, me leaving for the holidays to 
SEA until 2020, the order came out to lose the Yeep.  I had taken a set of 
photos on a chilly, but very spectacular sunny day in a scenic setting a few 
weeks ago, which have been living on the computer awaiting the blessed event.

SWMBA got the yeep from a co-worker five years ago for something like $2k.  
While doing research for values and market conditions on the interwebs, I 
figured that would be the high end sales figure, but given the lack of service 
since her ownership, and the trade in suggested value of “you pay us”, I 
thought I might be well pleased to net $1k, but posted it at $1800.

I expected the standard CL lag in interest and responses, and had not tracked 
down ALL the paperwork for the car (title) though I had a stack of records 
dating back to the window sticker and original financing docs in 1999.  After 
my morning classes Thursday I composed some insightful copy and loaded up the 
photo cache, even coughed up the $5, and posted the listing.

Within three minutes of it going live, I was getting slammed with inquiries.  I 
suspected it would be too dark for anybody to actually look at the car, and I 
needed to get SWMBA back to the garage with the title before I could proceed.  
That meant Friday or Saturday would be best.  There was one fellow, very 
persistent, who lived just down the road and wanted to see the car ASAP.  Well, 
asap, after his wife got home, since she has the cash.  I said it would be fine 
to come over in the dark so they could test drive it, but it might take a 
smidge longer to close the deal.  Not a problem, I was told, so they show up 
around 1840 and take it for a drive.  He comes back from the drive and will 
take the car, do I want some cash to hold it or will a hand shake do.  Shook 
hands and as they were walking back to their jeep, SWMBA arrives.  I send her 
for the title and the deal is done.  Cash, full price, and all within four 
hours of going live.

I had a full day of classes to take Friday, but was down to one car, so I was 
UBER dude for SWMBA and got to try out her car on the slick icy roads.  That 
Yeep drove like a buckboard wagon in comparison.  Not that her yota is all that.

Saturday I wake up to this nasty white fluff floating out of the sky and 
gathering upon the ground.  In a most quixotic and futile attempt to keep the 
junk from becoming packed and developing into icy ridges when driven on, I was 
out there shoveling everything not nailed down well unto 2100.  The weather app 
said the stuff was going to taper off a bit past midnight.  This morning I 
removed my sore shoulders and rotund gut from bed and lit off the snow blower 
to clear the drive and sidewalk so SWMBA could head out to church.  Then I got 
to get my morning coffee and see that it will remain cold for two more days, 
then warm up and rain the rest of the week.

Works for me.  I get back to the SL and SDL next Sunday.

clay


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Re: [MBZ] Pretty Honest W111 Coupe

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Yes it’s a complete parts car. I don’t have the heart to part it out and would 
love to restore it but I don’t think I’ll ever get to it!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Your ask is $3,000?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have one of those. 1968 250SE coupe, euro manual with sunroof and factory 
>> hitch. My ask is 24,000 less than that one! But..
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's beautiful.  Digital odo too, interesting
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 11/17/19 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 This looks pretty decent and the ask isn’t outrageous.:
 
 https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-mercedes-benz-250se-dr/7021799601.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Pretty Honest W111 Coupe

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Your ask is $3,000?

-D


> On Nov 17, 2019, at 5:05 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have one of those. 1968 250SE coupe, euro manual with sunroof and factory 
> hitch. My ask is 24,000 less than that one! But..
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 17, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's beautiful.  Digital odo too, interesting
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 11/17/19 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This looks pretty decent and the ask isn’t outrageous.:
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-mercedes-benz-250se-dr/7021799601.html
>>> 
>>> -D
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[MBZ] Cheep Jeep

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Busy weekend, sort of

Began when SWMBA finally got confirmation the ‘yota was on the move north.  
Seems the best way to suck a car to the GWN is to initiate the process from 
this end instead of futzing around with generic and unproven brokers in the 
lower 48.  I truly appreciate the information provided by the list and 
contacted them to let them know the trouble had found a solution.  Local car 
shippers have a whole nationwide network to get vehicles out of distant 
geographic pockets and up here.  Must be all the DOD folks coming and going.  
Something like 35k active members, with around 30k dependents.  Lots of cars 
and trucks.

With the yota set to arrive in early December, me leaving for the holidays to 
SEA until 2020, the order came out to lose the Yeep.  I had taken a set of 
photos on a chilly, but very spectacular sunny day in a scenic setting a few 
weeks ago, which have been living on the computer awaiting the blessed event.

SWMBA got the yeep from a co-worker five years ago for something like $2k.  
While doing research for values and market conditions on the interwebs, I 
figured that would be the high end sales figure, but given the lack of service 
since her ownership, and the trade in suggested value of “you pay us”, I 
thought I might be well pleased to net $1k, but posted it at $1800.

I expected the standard CL lag in interest and responses, and had not tracked 
down ALL the paperwork for the car (title) though I had a stack of records 
dating back to the window sticker and original financing docs in 1999.  After 
my morning classes Thursday I composed some insightful copy and loaded up the 
photo cache, even coughed up the $5, and posted the listing.

Within three minutes of it going live, I was getting slammed with inquiries.  I 
suspected it would be too dark for anybody to actually look at the car, and I 
needed to get SWMBA back to the garage with the title before I could proceed.  
That meant Friday or Saturday would be best.  There was one fellow, very 
persistent, who lived just down the road and wanted to see the car ASAP.  Well, 
asap, after his wife got home, since she has the cash.  I said it would be fine 
to come over in the dark so they could test drive it, but it might take a 
smidge longer to close the deal.  Not a problem, I was told, so they show up 
around 1840 and take it for a drive.  He comes back from the drive and will 
take the car, do I want some cash to hold it or will a hand shake do.  Shook 
hands and as they were walking back to their jeep, SWMBA arrives.  I send her 
for the title and the deal is done.  Cash, full price, and all within four 
hours of going live.  

I had a full day of classes to take Friday, but was down to one car, so I was 
UBER dude for SWMBA and got to try out her car on the slick icy roads.  That 
Yeep drove like a buckboard wagon in comparison.  Not that her yota is all 
that.  

Saturday I wake up to this nasty white fluff floating out of the sky and 
gathering upon the ground.  In a most quixotic and futile attempt to keep the 
junk from becoming packed and developing into icy ridges when driven on, I was 
out there shoveling everything not nailed down well unto 2100.  The weather app 
said the stuff was going to taper off a bit past midnight.  This morning I 
removed my sore shoulders and rotund gut from bed and lit off the snow blower 
to clear the drive and sidewalk so SWMBA could head out to church.  Then I got 
to get my morning coffee and see that it will remain cold for two more days, 
then warm up and rain the rest of the week.

Works for me.  I get back to the SL and SDL next Sunday. 

clay


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Re: [MBZ] Pretty Honest W111 Coupe

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I have one of those. 1968 250SE coupe, euro manual with sunroof and factory 
hitch. My ask is 24,000 less than that one! But..

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 17, 2019, at 12:21 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's beautiful.  Digital odo too, interesting
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 11/17/19 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> This looks pretty decent and the ask isn’t outrageous.:
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-mercedes-benz-250se-dr/7021799601.html
>> 
>> -D
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Not Diesel

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

IIRC some of the pumps in Canada are also designed to fool us dieselers.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch Haley 
via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2019 1:24 PM
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Cc: Mitch Haley
Subject: [MBZ] Not Diesel

Beware of green nozzles that aren't diesel...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/6664-1163444.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] Panic bidding for 240D Euro 5 speed on BAT

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

There are fewer and fewer people interested in the classics.  Having 
acknowledged that, the fellow who won best of show at the local section Show 
and Shine this year was early 30’s with an original 1953 sedan he was in the 
process of putting back together.  Preservation, not restoration type work.  He 
was doing it with his dad, who works at the MB dealer.  

The other gathering of younger owners, not section members, but a FB grouping 
were doing the Ricerization of the more recent models.  There were no stacks 
through the hood at the show

clay


> On Nov 15, 2019, at 8:26 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I fear the reverse situation - a dwindling supply of us old guys who want 
> cars like this. A bidder pays $15K or $20K for a car like this, and then 
> passes on in a few years and his family cannot give the thing away because 
> only the old fellow who died saw much value in it. Hopefully, the old fellow 
> enjoyed it and did not see it as an investment.
> We are seeing this happen with a lot of things that our parents and 
> grandparents collected. The younger folks don't have any wish to have it and 
> the value plummets.
> 
> My suggestion is, that if you have a dozen of these old Mercedes and you 
> think it is an investment rather than just a collection of toys that you can 
> afford, it is likely time to sell them and get the money out of them.
> 
> Randy

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[MBZ] Not Diesel

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Beware of green nozzles that aren't diesel...

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/146014/6664-1163444.jpg

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Re: [MBZ] As a result, the car is aggressively priced at $35,975

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

First time I saw a Designo with black leather (with white piping).
Usually that option is chosen more colorfully. 
Mitch.

> On November 17, 2019 at 12:24 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-mercedes-benz-e350-wagon/7021498588.html

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Re: [MBZ] Semi-OT

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Frederick wrote:

> Corrosion and paint and layers of rubber sealant have been
> removed from the tire sealing area, so was wondering what paint
> to put on the raw aluminum alloy?
> Wurth's ? or ? Or just leave it bare?

Not alloy, but I have use JBWeld to smooth out heavily pitted
steel rims.  Cleaned _super_ well, (probably acid too) and spread
on like drywall mud. [smiles]  Worked well.

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[MBZ] As a result, the car is aggressively priced at $35,975

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/charleston-mercedes-benz-e350-wagon/7021498588.html

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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I have had it happen to me about 3-4 times that I can remember. It is probably 
a good idea considering it takes less than a minute to install.

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> On Nov 17, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That is good news, far better than dealing with stripped threads or worse.
> 
> I'm beginning to wonder if keeping a spare spring in my OM60x cars wouldn't
> be a bad idea.  I've heard several stories about these springs breaking,
> not terribly common but would be very inconvenient if it happened on the
> road and far from a parts source.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 7:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was
>> fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car
>> and it was good to go.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Pretty Honest W111 Coupe

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's beautiful.  Digital odo too, interesting

--FT

On 11/17/19 11:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

This looks pretty decent and the ask isn’t outrageous.:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-mercedes-benz-250se-dr/7021799601.html

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[MBZ] Pretty Honest W111 Coupe

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This looks pretty decent and the ask isn’t outrageous.:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/land-lakes-mercedes-benz-250se-dr/7021799601.html

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Re: [MBZ] Semi-OT

[G Mann via Mercedes]

In your case, to me, it suggests perhaps a good wire brushing [wheel on a
drill, perhaps a brass wire wheel] to remove all corrosion to bare clean
metal, followed by
J B Metal applied with spatula as smoothly as possible, then sanded smooth
to present a clean surface to meet the tire bead.
Fresh primer and paint, perhaps spray epoxy. [your call on that one, my
thought is to make it durable as possible]

After paint is cured, remount tire {s} with tire lube so they seat well.


On Sun, Nov 17, 2019 at 8:43 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Alles.
> Thanks for the replies.
> I have my own ancient tyre machine and the goop (rubber cement) that seals
> rims.
> My problem is that the sealant works but ( IMO) that the air is escaping
> via the very thin layer of corrosion under the paint.
> Corrosion and paint and layers of rubber sealant have been removed from the
> tire sealing area, so was wondering what paint to put on the raw aluminum
> alloy?
> Wurth's ? or ? Or just leave it bare?
> TIA.
> Fred.
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 1:55 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > Had same experience with a rim for a boat trailer, special goo applied
> > during mounting, never had another leak, but maybe on your car the
> > aesthetics won't be so nice?
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Nov 16, 2019 1:32:04 PM G Mann via Mercedes :
> >
> > > There is a type of tire mount material that is made specifically for
> this
> > > problem. I had such an issue with one rim on a truck, the tire shop
> > applied
> > > the "goop" material and never had an issue as long as that tire was
> > > mounted... was advised to use it with each re-mount however.
> > > Sorry, it's been some years and I do not recall the brand name. Surely,
> > it
> > > still exists since rim corrosion is an ongoing issue.
> > > Search engine time.
> > >
> > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:54 AM OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >> I would use something like this:
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/semezcoat.php?clickkey=1521954
> > >>
> > >> or a self-etching primer followed by a top coat by the same
> > manufacturer.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/semprimer.php?clickkey=1521954
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:45 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Greetings and Salutations!
> > >>> The wheels on my Passat 2005 leak at the rim, so, I bought 4 wheels
> on
> > >>> craigslist .
> > >>> Upon examination these also leak. (S**t)
> > >>> It appears that a small amount of corrosion has crept under the paint
> > at
> > >>> the rim sealing area.
> > >>> After cleaning the tire seating area, the surface looks very good.
> > >>> My question is what type or brand of paint should be used to re-coat
> > the
> > >>> alloy wheel rim?
> > >>> Clueless dope needs to know.
> > >>> If you have read this far and have any useful ideas, please reply.
> > >>> Fred.
> > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Semi-OT

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Alles.
Thanks for the replies.
I have my own ancient tyre machine and the goop (rubber cement) that seals
rims.
My problem is that the sealant works but ( IMO) that the air is escaping
via the very thin layer of corrosion under the paint.
Corrosion and paint and layers of rubber sealant have been removed from the
tire sealing area, so was wondering what paint to put on the raw aluminum
alloy?
Wurth's ? or ? Or just leave it bare?
TIA.
Fred.

On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 1:55 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Had same experience with a rim for a boat trailer, special goo applied
> during mounting, never had another leak, but maybe on your car the
> aesthetics won't be so nice?
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
> Nov 16, 2019 1:32:04 PM G Mann via Mercedes :
>
> > There is a type of tire mount material that is made specifically for this
> > problem. I had such an issue with one rim on a truck, the tire shop
> applied
> > the "goop" material and never had an issue as long as that tire was
> > mounted... was advised to use it with each re-mount however.
> > Sorry, it's been some years and I do not recall the brand name. Surely,
> it
> > still exists since rim corrosion is an ongoing issue.
> > Search engine time.
> >
> > On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 10:54 AM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >> I would use something like this:
> >>
> >>
> https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/semezcoat.php?clickkey=1521954
> >>
> >> or a self-etching primer followed by a top coat by the same
> manufacturer.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/semprimer.php?clickkey=1521954
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 11:45 AM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Greetings and Salutations!
> >>> The wheels on my Passat 2005 leak at the rim, so, I bought 4 wheels on
> >>> craigslist .
> >>> Upon examination these also leak. (S**t)
> >>> It appears that a small amount of corrosion has crept under the paint
> at
> >>> the rim sealing area.
> >>> After cleaning the tire seating area, the surface looks very good.
> >>> My question is what type or brand of paint should be used to re-coat
> the
> >>> alloy wheel rim?
> >>> Clueless dope needs to know.
> >>> If you have read this far and have any useful ideas, please reply.
> >>> Fred.
> >>>
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> who
> >> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> >> for themselves."
> >>
> >> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> >> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> >> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] AZ Bob did not screw me over on a car deal

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That is good news, far better than dealing with stripped threads or worse.

I'm beginning to wonder if keeping a spare spring in my OM60x cars wouldn't
be a bad idea.  I've heard several stories about these springs breaking,
not terribly common but would be very inconvenient if it happened on the
road and far from a parts source.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sat, Nov 16, 2019 at 7:21 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> So I went over and checked out the e300 tensioner situation. Tensioner was
> fine, the spring must have broke and was MIA. I pulled one off another car
> and it was good to go.
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