Re: [MBZ] 75 240D
I want, but can't have. Darn! Or some more appropriate response. Fred On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 11:13 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Is that two-tone paint scheme original? > > Dwight Giles via Mercedes writes: > > > That is about 70 miles from me. Hmm > > > > Dwight Giles Jr. > > Wickford RI > > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> You and curt need to go check that out! Could be a good deal if it’s > not > >> too ratty and fairly complete > >> > >> --FT > >> Sent from iPhone > >> > >> > On Jun 24, 2021, at 2:00 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > https://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/d/worcester-1975-mercedes-benz-240d-240/7340308956.html > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Fred Moir > >> > Lynn MA > >> > Diesel preferred > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 75 240D
Is that two-tone paint scheme original? Dwight Giles via Mercedes writes: > That is about 70 miles from me. Hmm > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> You and curt need to go check that out! Could be a good deal if it’s not >> too ratty and fairly complete >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> >> > On Jun 24, 2021, at 2:00 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > >> https://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/d/worcester-1975-mercedes-benz-240d-240/7340308956.html >> > >> > -- >> > Fred Moir >> > Lynn MA >> > Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software
Large Plantations in the Antebellum South used to employ teams of people, with whips, guns and dogs to do much the same thing to keep the slaves properly enslaved, make sure they gave full measure of work, and did not run off. Didn't you get the memo? It was the one titled "We Own You"... No need to worry, the software and chip hardware was developed by China, so nothing to worry about.. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Our company who is currently owned by a holding company was sold to > another company recently. This new company is actually owned by the same > holding company that owned us anyway so it seemed more like moving it from > one hand to the other. Anyway today they announced they will be installing > software that captures screen shots, key strokes, and GPS to track where > employees are. Wtf? > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Corporate spying software
If they own the computers you are using, legally they can do this but in my book it would be time to find a new employer... Allan Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes writes: > Our company who is currently owned by a holding company was sold to another > company recently. This new company is actually owned by the same holding > company that owned us anyway so it seemed more like moving it from one hand > to the other. Anyway today they announced they will be installing software > that captures screen shots, key strokes, and GPS to track where employees > are. Wtf? > > Sent from my iPhone > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 75 240D
That is about 70 miles from me. Hmm Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You and curt need to go check that out! Could be a good deal if it’s not > too ratty and fairly complete > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 2:00 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > https://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/d/worcester-1975-mercedes-benz-240d-240/7340308956.html > > > > -- > > Fred Moir > > Lynn MA > > Diesel preferred > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Corporate spying software
Our company who is currently owned by a holding company was sold to another company recently. This new company is actually owned by the same holding company that owned us anyway so it seemed more like moving it from one hand to the other. Anyway today they announced they will be installing software that captures screen shots, key strokes, and GPS to track where employees are. Wtf? Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Disappointing auction of W123 NA diesel coupe.
Yes me too. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 5:18 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On MB Market. I had expected well above $10k for this nice example. > > https://thembmarket.com/1978-mercedes-benz-300cd > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
Job 32-010 in the W123 Chassis and Body Service Manual Vol 1 has a three-page chart for the permissible spring and shock absorber combinations. > On Jun 24, 2021, Karl Wittnebel wrote: > > I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. I > put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not > motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as > it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as > long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it > now does. > > Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the > car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except > more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is > on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think > it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust > back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. > > Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not > super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil > pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was > thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any > stiffer? Thanks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
I thought his issue is the heavier engine, if so that is more sprung mass which will need additional damping. Length probably won’t matter much (!!!) but they would need to be sized to accommodate the bigger engine mass; hence, perhaps a “heavy duty” damper or something from another car --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 6:18 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > They would. However, the mass of the engine and car itself are unchanged in > a stock setup. The stiffer or taller springs in these cases were meant to > offset the poor or rough road surfaces. Shocks have nothing to do with ride > height - they dampen the action of the spring as you suggest. And it’s not so > much that they would be “heavier duty” necessarily, the damping rate is > changed with different valving. In some cases they might be larger in > diameter to accommodate a larger volume of hydraulic fluid to deal with the > larger/heavier load, but ultimately it’s the damping rate that matters. > > We’ve all seen cars that had bad shocks if we realized it or not - they’re > the ones that when they hit a bump or change in the road surface they > “bounce” rather than the suspension absorbing the hit and the frequency of > the amplitude of response is quite rapid. That is, they take a while to > “settle down” after such an event. > > -D > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Don’t the shocks kinda respond based on the mass that’s pushing them around? >> So a heavier engine == “heavier duty” shocks? >> >> I’m trying to remember my classes in dynamics... >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> Shocks typically remain the same, as suspension travel doesn’t change, >>> just the spring rate. >>> >>> I’m not sure if it’s the same for a W123, but for the earlier models there >>> was a formula you had to employ that took all of the various options on the >>> car and drive train to calculate which springs were the proper ones for the >>> application. It was in the service manual. >>> >>> -D >>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Yes that is true. If I recall there were some taller stiffer springs for “off road” which I took to be places where “roads” are not quite up to European standards. I think there are also aftermarket suppliers that either have different springs or will make them to spec. I don’t have any links but a search might find them. You might need different shocks too? --FT Sent from iPhone >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: > > You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs > from Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what > optional springs were available for it. > > Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road > surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing > springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different > springs that could be used in both the back and front suspensions. > > -D > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty >> great. I >> put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not >> motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as >> it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as >> long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it >> now does. >> >> Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the >> car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except >> more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it >> is >> on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I >> think >> it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust >> back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. >> >> Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is >> not >> super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and >> oil >> pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was >> thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any >> stiffer? Thanks. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
Check your trans cooler lines too, I had one of those rust/rub through at a mounting bracket and it blew out all the tranny fluid. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 6:26 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Also, in a panic stop with high enough brake pressure, the rusted lines > probably would have burst, and that may not have ended very well, so I > wouldn't be too sore at him. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:57 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> So I took the 300D to a mechanic the other day to get the AC working and >> he decides to do a check over of the entire car. He tells me that the rear >> brake lines are badly rusted which I knew and was planning to replace >> myself once I get my 2 post lift in September. He tells me that they >> started leaking badly after he probed them to determine the extent of the >> rust and that now the car is not driveable and that the rear subframe would >> have to be dropped in order to do properly and will cost thousands in labor! >> >> I just wanted my damn AC fixed! I didn’t ask for any other stuff! So now >> what? Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? I may just tell him to >> finish the AC and I will drive the car home adding brake fluid as needed >> and deal with the brake line repairs myself! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
Meade Dillon via Mercedes writes: > Also, in a panic stop with high enough brake pressure, the rusted > lines probably would have burst, and that may not have ended very > well, so I wouldn't be too sore at him. This happened to me in a Toyota truck, not even a panic stop just a downhill, but not an experience I'd like to repeat. Thankfully there was enough reserve in the front circuit to stay under control. I don't mess around with rusty brake lines since then. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
Also, in a panic stop with high enough brake pressure, the rusted lines probably would have burst, and that may not have ended very well, so I wouldn't be too sore at him. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:57 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So I took the 300D to a mechanic the other day to get the AC working and > he decides to do a check over of the entire car. He tells me that the rear > brake lines are badly rusted which I knew and was planning to replace > myself once I get my 2 post lift in September. He tells me that they > started leaking badly after he probed them to determine the extent of the > rust and that now the car is not driveable and that the rear subframe would > have to be dropped in order to do properly and will cost thousands in labor! > > I just wanted my damn AC fixed! I didn’t ask for any other stuff! So now > what? Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? I may just tell him to > finish the AC and I will drive the car home adding brake fluid as needed > and deal with the brake line repairs myself! > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
That happened to me in my 123 wagon, a rear brake line rusted through and bled out. I drove home carefully, and then put in a new line without dropping the subframe. You'll need to get the car home and then get underneath and evaluate the situation. I'd also ask the guy to try to replace the brake line(s) without dropping the subframe, maybe if he gets a little clever he can do it for you. Ideally you can get an extra long length of line that doesn't have the flare and nut on one end, so you can easily fish that through the tight spot. If the old line is still intact enough, tape a string to it before you pull it out so you can use the string to pull the new line into place. You'll then need to have the nut and the tool to make the proper flare to finish the line. - Max Charleston SC On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:57 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > So I took the 300D to a mechanic the other day to get the AC working and > he decides to do a check over of the entire car. He tells me that the rear > brake lines are badly rusted which I knew and was planning to replace > myself once I get my 2 post lift in September. He tells me that they > started leaking badly after he probed them to determine the extent of the > rust and that now the car is not driveable and that the rear subframe would > have to be dropped in order to do properly and will cost thousands in labor! > > I just wanted my damn AC fixed! I didn’t ask for any other stuff! So now > what? Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? I may just tell him to > finish the AC and I will drive the car home adding brake fluid as needed > and deal with the brake line repairs myself! > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
They would. However, the mass of the engine and car itself are unchanged in a stock setup. The stiffer or taller springs in these cases were meant to offset the poor or rough road surfaces. Shocks have nothing to do with ride height - they dampen the action of the spring as you suggest. And it’s not so much that they would be “heavier duty” necessarily, the damping rate is changed with different valving. In some cases they might be larger in diameter to accommodate a larger volume of hydraulic fluid to deal with the larger/heavier load, but ultimately it’s the damping rate that matters. We’ve all seen cars that had bad shocks if we realized it or not - they’re the ones that when they hit a bump or change in the road surface they “bounce” rather than the suspension absorbing the hit and the frequency of the amplitude of response is quite rapid. That is, they take a while to “settle down” after such an event. -D > On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:39 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Don’t the shocks kinda respond based on the mass that’s pushing them around? > So a heavier engine == “heavier duty” shocks? > > I’m trying to remember my classes in dynamics... > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Shocks typically remain the same, as suspension travel doesn’t change, just >> the spring rate. >> >> I’m not sure if it’s the same for a W123, but for the earlier models there >> was a formula you had to employ that took all of the various options on the >> car and drive train to calculate which springs were the proper ones for the >> application. It was in the service manual. >> >> -D >> >>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yes that is true. If I recall there were some taller stiffer springs for >>> “off road” which I took to be places where “roads” are not quite up to >>> European standards. I think there are also aftermarket suppliers that >>> either have different springs or will make them to spec. I don’t have any >>> links but a search might find them. You might need different shocks too? >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iPhone >>> > On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional springs were available for it. Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different springs that could be used in both the back and front suspensions. -D > On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. > I > put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not > motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as > it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as > long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it > now does. > > Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the > car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except > more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is > on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think > it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust > back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. > > Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not > super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil > pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was > thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any > stiffer? Thanks. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >>
Re: [MBZ] Disappointing auction of W123 NA diesel coupe.
Maybe seller should have listed it there to begin with Non-working AC and dreaded Chrysler system are detractors. Nice looking car though. Allan Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > Whoever "stole" that car will probably flip it on BAT. > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 5:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> That’s really pretty >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> >> > On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > On MB Market. I had expected well above $10k for this nice example. >> > >> > https://thembmarket.com/1978-mercedes-benz-300cd ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] E500 4Matic - 200k miles - $3,800
There loosers --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Why do so many sellers make such a perfunctory effort on photos when > they are *the* main communicator of the condition and appearance of the > car? > > https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-mercedes-benz-e500-4matic/7341565934.html > > Allan > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
Don’t the shocks kinda respond based on the mass that’s pushing them around? So a heavier engine == “heavier duty” shocks? I’m trying to remember my classes in dynamics... --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:23 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Shocks typically remain the same, as suspension travel doesn’t change, just > the spring rate. > > I’m not sure if it’s the same for a W123, but for the earlier models there > was a formula you had to employ that took all of the various options on the > car and drive train to calculate which springs were the proper ones for the > application. It was in the service manual. > > -D > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Yes that is true. If I recall there were some taller stiffer springs for >> “off road” which I took to be places where “roads” are not quite up to >> European standards. I think there are also aftermarket suppliers that either >> have different springs or will make them to spec. I don’t have any links but >> a search might find them. You might need different shocks too? >> >> --FT >> Sent from iPhone >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: >>> >>> You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from >>> Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional >>> springs were available for it. >>> >>> Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road >>> surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing >>> springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different >>> springs that could be used in both the back and front suspensions. >>> >>> -D >>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. I put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it now does. Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any stiffer? Thanks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
Have a look at these folks: https://classictube.com/ Click on the "Products" link at the top of the page. A page will come up with a list on the right hand side, showing foreign cars that they provide tube sets for.. Mercedes is on that list. I have never used them, but it appears they have been around for quite a while supporting the restoration world, and classic car world... There is a phone link.. call and ask. Oh.. I notice they do stainless steel preformed sets. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:15 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > Is it possible to get pre-bent lines? > > Possibly. Regular coated steel lines aren't too bad to bend, plus they are > cheap. Stainless steel is tough stuff and expensive, I wouldn't even try > it. The nickel copper stuff is soft and easy to work with. > > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] E500 4Matic - 200k miles - $3,800
Why do so many sellers make such a perfunctory effort on photos when they are *the* main communicator of the condition and appearance of the car? https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-mercedes-benz-e500-4matic/7341565934.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Disappointing auction of W123 NA diesel coupe.
Whoever "stole" that car will probably flip it on BAT. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 5:21 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s really pretty > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > On MB Market. I had expected well above $10k for this nice example. > > > > https://thembmarket.com/1978-mercedes-benz-300cd > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
Shocks typically remain the same, as suspension travel doesn’t change, just the spring rate. I’m not sure if it’s the same for a W123, but for the earlier models there was a formula you had to employ that took all of the various options on the car and drive train to calculate which springs were the proper ones for the application. It was in the service manual. -D > On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yes that is true. If I recall there were some taller stiffer springs for “off > road” which I took to be places where “roads” are not quite up to European > standards. I think there are also aftermarket suppliers that either have > different springs or will make them to spec. I don’t have any links but a > search might find them. You might need different shocks too? > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from >> Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional >> springs were available for it. >> >> Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road >> surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing >> springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different springs >> that could be used in both the back and front suspensions. >> >> -D >> >>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. I >>> put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not >>> motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as >>> it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as >>> long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it >>> now does. >>> >>> Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the >>> car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except >>> more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is >>> on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think >>> it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust >>> back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. >>> >>> Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not >>> super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil >>> pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was >>> thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any >>> stiffer? Thanks. >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1996 E300 Diesel - 161k miles - $3,199
Boring colors, and given the location you'd want to be sure to understand what "some rust spots" might be glossing over. But might be a decent daily driver? https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/palos-hills-1996-mercedes-benz-e300/7341462020.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Disappointing auction of W123 NA diesel coupe.
That’s really pretty --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 5:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > On MB Market. I had expected well above $10k for this nice example. > > https://thembmarket.com/1978-mercedes-benz-300cd > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
Yes that is true. If I recall there were some taller stiffer springs for “off road” which I took to be places where “roads” are not quite up to European standards. I think there are also aftermarket suppliers that either have different springs or will make them to spec. I don’t have any links but a search might find them. You might need different shocks too? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:51 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from > Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional > springs were available for it. > > Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road > surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing > springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different springs > that could be used in both the back and front suspensions. > > -D > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. I >> put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not >> motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as >> it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as >> long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it >> now does. >> >> Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the >> car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except >> more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is >> on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think >> it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust >> back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. >> >> Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not >> super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil >> pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was >> thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any >> stiffer? Thanks. >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Disappointing auction of W123 NA diesel coupe.
On MB Market. I had expected well above $10k for this nice example. https://thembmarket.com/1978-mercedes-benz-300cd ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
Is this a turbo or gas wagon? On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 4:51 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from > Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional > springs were available for it. > > Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road > surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing > springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different > springs that could be used in both the back and front suspensions. > > -D > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty > great. I > > put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not > > motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as > > it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as > > long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it > > now does. > > > > Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the > > car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except > > more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it > is > > on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I > think > > it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust > > back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. > > > > Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is > not > > super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and > oil > > pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was > > thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any > > stiffer? Thanks. > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
You can probably identify and possibly get stiffer or taller springs from Mercedes. Give me the VIN and I’ll look in the EPC to see what optional springs were available for it. Mercedes offered different springs for various models to accommodate road surfaces/conditions in different parts of the world. When I was replacing springs on my former 1965 220SEb there were no less than 4 different springs that could be used in both the back and front suspensions. -D > On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. I > put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not > motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as > it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as > long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it > now does. > > Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the > car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except > more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is > on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think > it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust > back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. > > Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not > super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil > pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was > thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any > stiffer? Thanks. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85 TD
Thanks Max. I still have the one you sent; I was able to sort my shifting issue without adding it back to the 124 606 wagon. If someone needs it I can pass it along. Karl On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 12:24 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I think they are NLA, or they were a few years. The '87 300D/TD used same, > and when I parted out Wilton's sedan, Karl wanted that. I think they have > something to do with regulating the vacuum for the transmission shift > points? > > There are probably some rubber parts inside that need restoration, likely a > diaphragm and / or o-rings. Might be possible to open it up and replace > those? > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 12:45 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Q. Is the blue flying saucer available? > > Replaced the one on the car with my only spare (used) to restore boost. > > New from MBZ has to be expensive. > > Any ideas? > > Fred. > > > > -- > > Fred Moir > > Lynn MA > > Diesel preferred > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
I think the tool I linked will do other flares, but you would need to get a different die than the one it comes with. Definitely make proper flares. Not worth messing around with hacks when it comes to brake systems. Allan Rick Knoble via Mercedes writes: > All Mercedes flares are bubble or metric. There are some that believe they > can be made with a double flare tool and just not completing the flare. They > are wrong. They *may* work, but they won't be correct and could fail when you > need them the most. > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: June 24, 2021 2:13 PM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: astr...@indiana.edu > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines > > Go to FLAPS, buy a cheap piece of steel line and a brake tube bender and > practice a bit. > > Figure out what kind of flare you need on the ends, and get that > tool. If it's a standard double flare I really like this one: > > https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-on-car-flaring-tool-for-3-16-tubing.html > > One note, be sure you put the nut on the tube before making the flare on > the end (don't ask how I know). > > I replaced a rotted and leaking rear hard line on my Frontier. Use the > old line as a model to see where the bends need to be. My bends did not > turn out quite as nice as factory but it wasn't a terrible job. > > I would probably try the copper/nickel tubing next time, as it's softer > than steel, doesn't rust, and should be easier to bend. > > Allan > > > "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" writes: > >> OE lines come straight (unbent). >> >> -D >> >>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is it possible to get pre-bent lines? >>> >>> Some of the "better" quality brake lines are not easy to bend into tight >>> turns. >>> >>> >>> On 24/06/2021 10:36 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: > Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? It would probably be easier with the subframe out, but it may not be impossible. I've done a 123, but no 124 yet. With your metal working prowess, I suspect that you can learn to bend brake lines pretty quickly. If I can do it, anyone can with practice. I bent quite a few pretzels until I got good. They have the copper nickel brake line that is pretty resistant to corrosion. It's pricey, but you'll only have to do it once. Rick > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] heavier 123 front springs
I decided to drive the 123 wagon with the motor swap. It is pretty great. I put the cat back on to pass CARB. It is a euro wagon, so if it were not motor swapped, there would be no way to license it here in CA, lacking as it does a federal emissions sticker. With a 2006 motor it can be done, as long as it conforms to stock tune and emissions specs for 2006. Which it now does. Adding the cat back cost some performance for sure. But it also made the car far less stinky to drive. It now drives like any modern car, except more torque. The exhaust gas recirculation seems very loud also when it is on, which seems to be mostly when the car is cold for some reason. I think it shuts the VNT vanes down tight to raise the EGP and shunt the exhaust back through a cooler to the intake when the cat is cold. Anyway, the front springs are a little light for the om648. The car is not super low, but the suspension doesn't have enough travel up front, and oil pan will hit a concrete parking stop if I drive up too close. I was thinking of trying some 126 front springs. Anyone know if they are any stiffer? Thanks. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $1,100,000 with 10 days to go
Seems like there are always one or two of those in the shop when I drop by. No big deal. Lots of guys have driven them for decades. On Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 1:27 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1961-mercedes-benz-300sl-roadster/ > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 75 240D
You and curt need to go check that out! Could be a good deal if it’s not too ratty and fairly complete --FT Sent from iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 2:00 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/d/worcester-1975-mercedes-benz-240d-240/7340308956.html > > -- > Fred Moir > Lynn MA > Diesel preferred > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
All Mercedes flares are bubble or metric. There are some that believe they can be made with a double flare tool and just not completing the flare. They are wrong. They *may* work, but they won't be correct and could fail when you need them the most. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: June 24, 2021 2:13 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: astr...@indiana.edu Subject: Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines Go to FLAPS, buy a cheap piece of steel line and a brake tube bender and practice a bit. Figure out what kind of flare you need on the ends, and get that tool. If it's a standard double flare I really like this one: https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-on-car-flaring-tool-for-3-16-tubing.html One note, be sure you put the nut on the tube before making the flare on the end (don't ask how I know). I replaced a rotted and leaking rear hard line on my Frontier. Use the old line as a model to see where the bends need to be. My bends did not turn out quite as nice as factory but it wasn't a terrible job. I would probably try the copper/nickel tubing next time, as it's softer than steel, doesn't rust, and should be easier to bend. Allan "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" writes: > OE lines come straight (unbent). > > -D > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Is it possible to get pre-bent lines? >> >> Some of the "better" quality brake lines are not easy to bend into tight >> turns. >> >> >> On 24/06/2021 10:36 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? >>> It would probably be easier with the subframe out, but it may not be >>> impossible. I've done a 123, but no 124 yet. With your metal working >>> prowess, I suspect that you can learn to bend brake lines pretty quickly. >>> If I can do it, anyone can with practice. I bent quite a few pretzels until >>> I got good. They have the copper nickel brake line that is pretty resistant >>> to corrosion. It's pricey, but you'll only have to do it once. >>> >>> >>> Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
Go to FLAPS, buy a cheap piece of steel line and a brake tube bender and practice a bit. Figure out what kind of flare you need on the ends, and get that tool. If it's a standard double flare I really like this one: https://www.eastwood.com/eastwood-on-car-flaring-tool-for-3-16-tubing.html One note, be sure you put the nut on the tube before making the flare on the end (don't ask how I know). I replaced a rotted and leaking rear hard line on my Frontier. Use the old line as a model to see where the bends need to be. My bends did not turn out quite as nice as factory but it wasn't a terrible job. I would probably try the copper/nickel tubing next time, as it's softer than steel, doesn't rust, and should be easier to bend. Allan "dan penoff.com via Mercedes" writes: > OE lines come straight (unbent). > > -D > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Is it possible to get pre-bent lines? >> >> Some of the "better" quality brake lines are not easy to bend into tight >> turns. >> >> >> On 24/06/2021 10:36 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? >>> It would probably be easier with the subframe out, but it may not be >>> impossible. I've done a 123, but no 124 yet. With your metal working >>> prowess, I suspect that you can learn to bend brake lines pretty quickly. >>> If I can do it, anyone can with practice. I bent quite a few pretzels until >>> I got good. They have the copper nickel brake line that is pretty resistant >>> to corrosion. It's pricey, but you'll only have to do it once. >>> >>> >>> Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
OE lines come straight (unbent). -D > On Jun 24, 2021, at 12:28 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is it possible to get pre-bent lines? > > Some of the "better" quality brake lines are not easy to bend into tight > turns. > > > On 24/06/2021 10:36 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: >>> Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? >> It would probably be easier with the subframe out, but it may not be >> impossible. I've done a 123, but no 124 yet. With your metal working >> prowess, I suspect that you can learn to bend brake lines pretty quickly. If >> I can do it, anyone can with practice. I bent quite a few pretzels until I >> got good. They have the copper nickel brake line that is pretty resistant to >> corrosion. It's pricey, but you'll only have to do it once. >> >> >> Rick >> ___ >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 75 240D
A bargain? Wash and put on BAT? On 24/06/2021 12:59 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes wrote: https://worcester.craigslist.org/pts/d/worcester-1975-mercedes-benz-240d-240/7340308956.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 75 240D
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Re: [MBZ] Flip For Dan
Really? I have some (well I'm sure I have one, probably have a couple) I'd sell for $59... -Curt On Thursday, June 24, 2021, 10:29:42 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I paid $60 IIRC for a used yellow Bosch fog light to replace the cracked one on my W123 wagon On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 9:19 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Those are not cheap! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 23, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Fog lights. It needs fog lights. > > > >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 7:54 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> It looks pretty clean. Wonder what it needs? > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 5:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Advertised in Orlando, located in Hollywood - that’s down in south > >> Florida. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Jun 23, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > >>> > >> > https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/hollywood-classic-1982-mercedes-benz/7341062671.html > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jaime Kopchinski > > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
> Is it possible to get pre-bent lines? Possibly. Regular coated steel lines aren't too bad to bend, plus they are cheap. Stainless steel is tough stuff and expensive, I wouldn't even try it. The nickel copper stuff is soft and easy to work with. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
Is it possible to get pre-bent lines? Some of the "better" quality brake lines are not easy to bend into tight turns. On 24/06/2021 10:36 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? It would probably be easier with the subframe out, but it may not be impossible. I've done a 123, but no 124 yet. With your metal working prowess, I suspect that you can learn to bend brake lines pretty quickly. If I can do it, anyone can with practice. I bent quite a few pretzels until I got good. They have the copper nickel brake line that is pretty resistant to corrosion. It's pricey, but you'll only have to do it once. Rick ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
> Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? It would probably be easier with the subframe out, but it may not be impossible. I've done a 123, but no 124 yet. With your metal working prowess, I suspect that you can learn to bend brake lines pretty quickly. If I can do it, anyone can with practice. I bent quite a few pretzels until I got good. They have the copper nickel brake line that is pretty resistant to corrosion. It's pricey, but you'll only have to do it once. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flip For Dan
I paid $60 IIRC for a used yellow Bosch fog light to replace the cracked one on my W123 wagon On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 9:19 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Those are not cheap! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 23, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Fog lights. It needs fog lights. > > > >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 7:54 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> It looks pretty clean. Wonder what it needs? > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 5:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Advertised in Orlando, located in Hollywood - that’s down in south > >> Florida. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On Jun 23, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > >>> > >> > https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/hollywood-classic-1982-mercedes-benz/7341062671.html > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > -- > > Jaime Kopchinski > > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
Brilliant. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 10:07 AM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Why take a risk, simply call a flatbed rollback tow company and have it > picked up and delivered to your home. Compared to risking a possible wreck > because of sudden loss of braking, cost v risk would be small, IMHO.. > Since the mechanic probed a hole in the line, and you did not ask for it, > perhaps he would pay the tow. > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > That’s what I’m thinking. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > If it’s the rear brakes you should be able to make it home if you are > > careful. > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> So I took the 300D to a mechanic the other day to get the AC working > > and he decides to do a check over of the entire car. He tells me that the > > rear brake lines are badly rusted which I knew and was planning to > replace > > myself once I get my 2 post lift in September. He tells me that they > > started leaking badly after he probed them to determine the extent of the > > rust and that now the car is not driveable and that the rear subframe > would > > have to be dropped in order to do properly and will cost thousands in > labor! > > >> > > >> I just wanted my damn AC fixed! I didn’t ask for any other stuff! So > > now what? Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? I may just tell > him > > to finish the AC and I will drive the car home adding brake fluid as > needed > > and deal with the brake line repairs myself! > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >> ___ > > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> > > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> > > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Very rare 81 mercedes 280ce - $7,000 (Raleigh)
I hate it when the seller writes that. I need a list of needed repairs. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 8:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > needs some tlc > > > https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-very-rare-81-mercedes-280ce/7341025623.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
Why take a risk, simply call a flatbed rollback tow company and have it picked up and delivered to your home. Compared to risking a possible wreck because of sudden loss of braking, cost v risk would be small, IMHO.. Since the mechanic probed a hole in the line, and you did not ask for it, perhaps he would pay the tow. On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 6:17 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s what I’m thinking. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > If it’s the rear brakes you should be able to make it home if you are > careful. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> So I took the 300D to a mechanic the other day to get the AC working > and he decides to do a check over of the entire car. He tells me that the > rear brake lines are badly rusted which I knew and was planning to replace > myself once I get my 2 post lift in September. He tells me that they > started leaking badly after he probed them to determine the extent of the > rust and that now the car is not driveable and that the rear subframe would > have to be dropped in order to do properly and will cost thousands in labor! > >> > >> I just wanted my damn AC fixed! I didn’t ask for any other stuff! So > now what? Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? I may just tell him > to finish the AC and I will drive the car home adding brake fluid as needed > and deal with the brake line repairs myself! > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Flip For Dan
Those are not cheap! Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 23, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > Fog lights. It needs fog lights. > >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 7:54 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> It looks pretty clean. Wonder what it needs? >> >> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021, 5:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Advertised in Orlando, located in Hollywood - that’s down in south >> Florida. >>> >>> -D >>> On Jun 23, 2021, at 5:06 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >> https://orlando.craigslist.org/cto/d/hollywood-classic-1982-mercedes-benz/7341062671.html Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
That’s what I’m thinking. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 9:02 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > If it’s the rear brakes you should be able to make it home if you are > careful. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So I took the 300D to a mechanic the other day to get the AC working and he >> decides to do a check over of the entire car. He tells me that the rear >> brake lines are badly rusted which I knew and was planning to replace myself >> once I get my 2 post lift in September. He tells me that they started >> leaking badly after he probed them to determine the extent of the rust and >> that now the car is not driveable and that the rear subframe would have to >> be dropped in order to do properly and will cost thousands in labor! >> >> I just wanted my damn AC fixed! I didn’t ask for any other stuff! So now >> what? Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? I may just tell him to >> finish the AC and I will drive the car home adding brake fluid as needed and >> deal with the brake line repairs myself! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
If it’s the rear brakes you should be able to make it home if you are careful. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:57 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes > wrote: > > So I took the 300D to a mechanic the other day to get the AC working and he > decides to do a check over of the entire car. He tells me that the rear brake > lines are badly rusted which I knew and was planning to replace myself once I > get my 2 post lift in September. He tells me that they started leaking badly > after he probed them to determine the extent of the rust and that now the car > is not driveable and that the rear subframe would have to be dropped in order > to do properly and will cost thousands in labor! > > I just wanted my damn AC fixed! I didn’t ask for any other stuff! So now > what? Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? I may just tell him to > finish the AC and I will drive the car home adding brake fluid as needed and > deal with the brake line repairs myself! > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W124 rear brake hard lines
So I took the 300D to a mechanic the other day to get the AC working and he decides to do a check over of the entire car. He tells me that the rear brake lines are badly rusted which I knew and was planning to replace myself once I get my 2 post lift in September. He tells me that they started leaking badly after he probed them to determine the extent of the rust and that now the car is not driveable and that the rear subframe would have to be dropped in order to do properly and will cost thousands in labor! I just wanted my damn AC fixed! I didn’t ask for any other stuff! So now what? Is it true that subframe needs to be dropped? I may just tell him to finish the AC and I will drive the car home adding brake fluid as needed and deal with the brake line repairs myself! Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] It's waiting for it's new owner to take it to 500, 000 miles... 1998 Mercedes E320 - $3, 400 (Myrtle Beach)
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[MBZ] Very rare 81 mercedes 280ce - $7,000 (Raleigh)
needs some tlc https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-very-rare-81-mercedes-280ce/7341025623.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2003 Mercedes Benz ML 350 4cylinder 03 ML 350 - $5, 499 (Jacksonville)
great on gas https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/jacksonville-03-ml-350/7341193973.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
