[MBZ] 2007 R320 CDI - 227k miles - $4,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Not an insane price. Maybe bargain down some due to the miles. Better pics and 
details would have been nice.

https://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cto/d/cincinnati-2007-mercedes-benz/7343501100.html

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Is it a full moon or just crack tonight?

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WOW WOW WOW

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> On Jun 27, 2021, at 6:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 E320 - 130k miles - $5,500

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Maybe he’s not talking about a car

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> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:30 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hmm my w211 E320 seems really big. Does he want an S? Or
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> "Only had it for a month. Selling because I want something bigger."
>> 
>> 
>> https://springfieldil.craigslist.org/cto/d/springfield-mercedes-benz-e320/7343501236.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 1952 Hudson Hornet

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Ok. They were hot on the track then with that V8. Mostly close to Olds
Rocket 8

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:55 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Yeah. They are the poster child of iconic cars.
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:50 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Are Hudsons worth that much?
>>
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Has a little patina. Fix it up nice and it might get $15K on BaT.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomington-1952-hudson-hornet/7343531759.html
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

As I recall, I used Cliplight on my home heat pump when I had a leaky 
evaporator.  Then it ran fine during summer but the leak gradually grew worse 
during heating season (much higher pressure).  I was impressed by how well it 
worked.  If my 126 evaporator leaked I'd use that as long as possible vs 
pulling the evaporator.  I plan to get that SD back on the road soon, meaning 
AC will be required.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 8:45 PM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

Say what you will, but I’ve had ClipLight Super Seal fix leaks in AC systems on 
cars here in Florida, and they’ve lasted 2-4 years or more. Only stuff I would 
consider using. That’s even for nasty ones like W140 evaporator leaks.

The other thing you have to deal with is the porosity of the original hoses, as 
they weren’t barrier style hoses. That’s the cause for the annual “top off” 
that many older systems often need.

I had a 1982 300SD I put almost 200k on over a four year period. When I got it 
I put barrier style hoses on it and completely rebuilt the system, everything 
but a new evaporator. In the four years I owned it I put exactly six ounces of 
refrigerant (R-134a) into the system, and that was more as a precaution than a 
need. It made ice cubes in the hottest weather.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've always been told they are a bandaid at best. Permanent repair of a leak 
> will require replacing the leaking part(s) (and even that is not really 
> permanent. All AC systems eventually leak).
> 
> That said, some products are probably better than others, and may slow or 
> stop a small leak for a while.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> What is the conventional wisdom/experience on best auto AC sealers?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:09 PM
>> To: Okie Benz 
>> Cc: dan penoff.com 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend
>> 
>> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
>> stuff, too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the 
>>> sniffer, and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should 
>>> probably test it again now, just to be sure.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
 
 -D
 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95
> E300 I bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, 
> if that, to get the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  
> After removing the wiper washer fluid tank and loosening the 
> serpentine belt, I had easy access
 from
> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, 
> and
 also
> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> 
> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off 
> the compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it 
> completely apart and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using 
> the proper
> PAG-46 oil filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness 
> on the valve
 plates,
> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on 
> oil or something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a 
> new compressor
 I
> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> 
> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
 special
> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the 
> clutch while you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal 
> sleave to cover the compressor shaft splines as you press the 
> front case back on with the new shaft seal.
> 
> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and 
> fill the system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE 
> COLD AC is now
 back.
> 
> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  
> Press the button and the light comes on while you hold the button 
> down, but as soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to 
> troubleshoot that
 yet,
> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 1952 Hudson Hornet

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah. They are the poster child of iconic cars.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:50 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Are Hudsons worth that much?
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Has a little patina. Fix it up nice and it might get $15K on BaT.
> >
> >
> >
> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomington-1952-hudson-hornet/7343531759.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT: 1952 Hudson Hornet

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Are Hudsons worth that much?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:15 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Has a little patina. Fix it up nice and it might get $15K on BaT.
>
>
> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomington-1952-hudson-hornet/7343531759.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2003 E320 - 130k miles - $5,500

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Hmm my w211 E320 seems really big. Does he want an S? Or

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "Only had it for a month. Selling because I want something bigger."
>
>
> https://springfieldil.craigslist.org/cto/d/springfield-mercedes-benz-e320/7343501236.html
>
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[MBZ] 2003 E320 - 130k miles - $5,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

"Only had it for a month. Selling because I want something bigger."

https://springfieldil.craigslist.org/cto/d/springfield-mercedes-benz-e320/7343501236.html

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[MBZ] OT: 1952 Hudson Hornet

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Has a little patina. Fix it up nice and it might get $15K on BaT.

https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomington-1952-hudson-hornet/7343531759.html

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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Beru has always been the gold standard, but they can be difficult to source.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: June 28, 2021 7:54 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

I know I did a complete set and they were Bosch. Later on I was told that 
modern Bosch GPs were lacking in quality and that Beru were considered far 
better and longer lasting.

I used antiseize on them and reamed them.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

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Haha yeah. 2 to choose from!

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> On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:44 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I'll trade you some AC work for part of the cost for one of your MLs, 
> you've got too many you know.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Jun 28, 2021 6:23:03 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :
> 
>> I'll buy you a beer to be my AC tech.  Hell maybe a six pack.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 6/28/21 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
>>> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
>>> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
>>> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
>>> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
>>> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
>>> 
>>> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
>>> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
>>> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
>>> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
>>> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
>>> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
>>> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
>>> 
>>> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
>>> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
>>> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
>>> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
>>> shaft seal.
>>> 
>>> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
>>> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.
>>> 
>>> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
>>> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
>>> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
>>> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I know I did a complete set and they were Bosch. Later on I was told that 
modern Bosch GPs were lacking in quality and that Beru were considered far 
better and longer lasting.

I used antiseize on them and reamed them.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Ah, well there's been at least two glow plug jobs recently then, so that's 
good, probably won't have any stuck glow plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 8:47:38 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

I did the glow plugs on that car, but unfortunately I used Bosch. I have 
learned since that they are suboptimal.

Kleb’s just miffed because I sold you the car and he missed out on the deal.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Maybe I should follow your lead and buy some jalopy from Hoovie?

The AC was not working and I knew that going into the deal.

But now that you mention it, one of the glow plugs has died, so I need to do 
that job now.  Dan's son or the previous owner had just paid for that job, 
there was a receipt with the car, but I'll bet the garage that did that used 
some cheap brand of plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 6:18:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

Now the truth comes out, poos ripped you off.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:09 PM, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
stuff, too.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
 wrote:

Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
again now, just to be sure.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:

Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
from
above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
also
the electrical connection on top of the compressor.

And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
plates,
kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
I
guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.

The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
special
tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
shaft seal.

Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
back.

Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
yet,
could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yes as long as you aren't expecting miracles. I had my home HVAC guy use some 
leak sealer on my system that required a recharge every other summer. It worked 
for a few more years but eventually I had to replace the evaporator which was 
20 years old.

I don't know the brand names. Dan mentioned ClipLight also so I would go with 
that.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> Agree, but if you can get through another season or two without pulling the 
> dash, that's a good thing.
> 
> I think cliplight is the brand name?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Jun 28, 2021 8:20:00 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :
> 
> > I've always been told they are a bandaid at best. Permanent repair of a 
> > leak will require replacing the leaking part(s) (and even that is not 
> > really permanent. All AC systems eventually leak).
> > 
> > That said, some products are probably better than others, and may slow or 
> > stop a small leak for a while.
> > 
> > Allan
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> >> What is the conventional wisdom/experience on best auto AC sealers?
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:09 PM
> >> To: Okie Benz 
> >> Cc: dan penoff.com 
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend
> >> 
> >> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The 
> >> good stuff, too.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the
> >>> sniffer, and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should
> >>> probably test it again now, just to be sure.
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> 
>  Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
>  
>  -D
>  
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95
> > E300 I bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if
> > that, to get the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After
> > removing the wiper washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine
> > belt, I had easy access
>  from
> > above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection,
> > and
>  also
> > the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> > 
> > And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
> > compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely
> > apart and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper
> > PAG-46 oil filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on
> > the valve
>  plates,
> > kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil
> > or something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new
> > compressor
>  I
> > guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> > 
> > The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
>  special
> > tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch
> > while you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to
> > cover the compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back
> > on with the new shaft seal.
> > 
> > Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill
> > the system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC
> > is now
>  back.
> > 
> > Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work. 
> > Press the button and the light comes on while you hold the button
> > down, but as soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to
> > troubleshoot that
>  yet,
> > could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ah, well there's been at least two glow plug jobs recently then, so that's 
good, probably won't have any stuck glow plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 8:47:38 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes :

> I did the glow plugs on that car, but unfortunately I used Bosch. I have 
> learned since that they are suboptimal.
> 
> Kleb’s just miffed because I sold you the car and he missed out on the deal.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Maybe I should follow your lead and buy some jalopy from Hoovie?
> 
> The AC was not working and I knew that going into the deal.
> 
> But now that you mention it, one of the glow plugs has died, so I need to do 
> that job now.  Dan's son or the previous owner had just paid for that job, 
> there was a receipt with the car, but I'll bet the garage that did that used 
> some cheap brand of plugs.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Jun 28, 2021 6:18:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:
> 
> Now the truth comes out, poos ripped you off.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
> stuff, too.
> 
> -D
> 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
> and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
> again now, just to be sure.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
> 
> -D
> 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
> from
> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
> also
> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> 
> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
> plates,
> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
> I
> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> 
> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
> special
> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
> shaft seal.
> 
> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
> back.
> 
> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
> yet,
> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Agree, but if you can get through another season or two without pulling the 
dash, that's a good thing.

I think cliplight is the brand name?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 8:20:00 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :

> I've always been told they are a bandaid at best. Permanent repair of a leak 
> will require replacing the leaking part(s) (and even that is not really 
> permanent. All AC systems eventually leak).
> 
> That said, some products are probably better than others, and may slow or 
> stop a small leak for a while.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> What is the conventional wisdom/experience on best auto AC sealers?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:09 PM
>> To: Okie Benz 
>> Cc: dan penoff.com 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend
>> 
>> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
>> stuff, too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the
>>> sniffer, and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should
>>> probably test it again now, just to be sure.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
 
 -D
 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95
> E300 I bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if
> that, to get the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After
> removing the wiper washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine
> belt, I had easy access
 from
> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection,
> and
 also
> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> 
> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely
> apart and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper
> PAG-46 oil filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on
> the valve
 plates,
> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil
> or something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new
> compressor
 I
> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> 
> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
 special
> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch
> while you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to
> cover the compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back
> on with the new shaft seal.
> 
> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill
> the system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC
> is now
 back.
> 
> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work. 
> Press the button and the light comes on while you hold the button
> down, but as soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to
> troubleshoot that
 yet,
> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think Pierre has an opinion on that, you can probably guess.

His advice was too make sure you got the proper manifold o-rings for the GM 
compressor, they have some metal in them.

I think you can get standard GM compressor and flip the rear cap around to make 
the oil flow correct for the upside down install in the Benz, save a few 
bennies?  There is some trick to using those old compressors.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 6:45:38 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :

> Is there a more modern compressor that fits/works with W116 and W123 cars? 
> They use the ACDelco "upside down" compressor IIRC. RockAuto lists one by 
> Nissens, as well as remans by ACDelco and Four Seasons.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I'll buy you a beer to be my AC tech.  Hell maybe a six pack.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 6/28/21 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
>>> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
>>> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
>>> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
>>> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
>>> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
>>> 
>>> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
>>> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
>>> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
>>> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
>>> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
>>> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
>>> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
>>> 
>>> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
>>> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
>>> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
>>> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
>>> shaft seal.
>>> 
>>> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
>>> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.
>>> 
>>> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
>>> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
>>> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
>>> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I did the glow plugs on that car, but unfortunately I used Bosch. I have 
learned since that they are suboptimal.

Kleb’s just miffed because I sold you the car and he missed out on the deal.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Maybe I should follow your lead and buy some jalopy from Hoovie?

The AC was not working and I knew that going into the deal.

But now that you mention it, one of the glow plugs has died, so I need to do 
that job now.  Dan's son or the previous owner had just paid for that job, 
there was a receipt with the car, but I'll bet the garage that did that used 
some cheap brand of plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 6:18:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>:

Now the truth comes out, poos ripped you off.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
stuff, too.

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
again now, just to be sure.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
<
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…

-D

On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
from
above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
also
the electrical connection on top of the compressor.

And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
plates,
kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
I
guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.

The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
special
tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
shaft seal.

Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
back.

Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
yet,
could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 1985 Mercedes 300 DT - $1,800 (Commerce)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

1985 was the best year so that if it runs and doesn't need a new
transmission, and the body isnt Rusty, it's a steal.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 6:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Probably not a bad deal given prices these days if anyone is looking for
> a 300D
>
>
> https://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/d/commerce-1985-mercedes-300-dt/7343508981.html
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Say what you will, but I’ve had ClipLight Super Seal fix leaks in AC systems on 
cars here in Florida, and they’ve lasted 2-4 years or more. Only stuff I would 
consider using. That’s even for nasty ones like W140 evaporator leaks.

The other thing you have to deal with is the porosity of the original hoses, as 
they weren’t barrier style hoses. That’s the cause for the annual “top off” 
that many older systems often need.

I had a 1982 300SD I put almost 200k on over a four year period. When I got it 
I put barrier style hoses on it and completely rebuilt the system, everything 
but a new evaporator. In the four years I owned it I put exactly six ounces of 
refrigerant (R-134a) into the system, and that was more as a precaution than a 
need. It made ice cubes in the hottest weather.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I've always been told they are a bandaid at best. Permanent repair of a leak 
> will require replacing the leaking part(s) (and even that is not really 
> permanent. All AC systems eventually leak).
> 
> That said, some products are probably better than others, and may slow or 
> stop a small leak for a while.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
>> What is the conventional wisdom/experience on best auto AC sealers?
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
>> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:09 PM
>> To: Okie Benz 
>> Cc: dan penoff.com 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend
>> 
>> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
>> stuff, too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the 
>>> sniffer, and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should 
>>> probably test it again now, just to be sure.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
 
 -D
 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 
> E300 I bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if 
> that, to get the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After 
> removing the wiper washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine 
> belt, I had easy access
 from
> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, 
> and
 also
> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> 
> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the 
> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely 
> apart and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper 
> PAG-46 oil filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on 
> the valve
 plates,
> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil 
> or something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new 
> compressor
 I
> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> 
> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
 special
> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch 
> while you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to 
> cover the compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back 
> on with the new shaft seal.
> 
> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill 
> the system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC 
> is now
 back.
> 
> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  
> Press the button and the light comes on while you hold the button 
> down, but as soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to 
> troubleshoot that
 yet,
> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe I'll trade you some AC work for part of the cost for one of your MLs, 
you've got too many you know.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 6:23:03 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> I'll buy you a beer to be my AC tech.  Hell maybe a six pack.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/28/21 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
>> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
>> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
>> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
>> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
>> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
>> 
>> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
>> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
>> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
>> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
>> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
>> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
>> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
>> 
>> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
>> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
>> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
>> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
>> shaft seal.
>> 
>> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
>> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.
>> 
>> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
>> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
>> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
>> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe I should follow your lead and buy some jalopy from Hoovie?

The AC was not working and I knew that going into the deal.  

But now that you mention it, one of the glow plugs has died, so I need to do 
that job now.  Dan's son or the previous owner had just paid for that job, 
there was a receipt with the car, but I'll bet the garage that did that used 
some cheap brand of plugs.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Jun 28, 2021 6:18:36 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> Now the truth comes out, poos ripped you off.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The 
>> good stuff, too.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
>>> and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
>>> again now, just to be sure.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
 
 -D
 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
 from
> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
 also
> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> 
> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
 plates,
> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
 I
> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> 
> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
 special
> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
> shaft seal.
> 
> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
 back.
> 
> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
 yet,
> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

That would be the "KlimaKit" conversion? Are there any others?

Anyone have any experience with the Nissens compressors?

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 7:26 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Yes, there are Sanden conversions for these.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Sanden?
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> > On 6/28/21 6:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Is there a more modern compressor that fits/works with W116 and W123 cars? 
> >> They use the ACDelco "upside down" compressor IIRC. RockAuto lists one by 
> >> Nissens, as well as remans by ACDelco and Four Seasons.
> >> 
> >> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I've always been told they are a bandaid at best. Permanent repair of a leak 
will require replacing the leaking part(s) (and even that is not really 
permanent. All AC systems eventually leak).

That said, some products are probably better than others, and may slow or stop 
a small leak for a while.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:00 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:
> What is the conventional wisdom/experience on best auto AC sealers?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:09 PM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: dan penoff.com 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend
> 
> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
> stuff, too.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the 
> > sniffer, and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should 
> > probably test it again now, just to be sure.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < 
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 
> >>> E300 I bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if 
> >>> that, to get the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After 
> >>> removing the wiper washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine 
> >>> belt, I had easy access
> >> from
> >>> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, 
> >>> and
> >> also
> >>> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> >>> 
> >>> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the 
> >>> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely 
> >>> apart and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper 
> >>> PAG-46 oil filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on 
> >>> the valve
> >> plates,
> >>> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil 
> >>> or something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new 
> >>> compressor
> >> I
> >>> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> >>> 
> >>> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
> >> special
> >>> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch 
> >>> while you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to 
> >>> cover the compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back 
> >>> on with the new shaft seal.
> >>> 
> >>> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill 
> >>> the system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC 
> >>> is now
> >> back.
> >>> 
> >>> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  
> >>> Press the button and the light comes on while you hold the button 
> >>> down, but as soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to 
> >>> troubleshoot that
> >> yet,
> >>> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

What is the conventional wisdom/experience on best auto AC sealers?

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 6:09 PM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: dan penoff.com 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
stuff, too.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the 
> sniffer, and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should 
> probably test it again now, just to be sure.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 
>>> E300 I bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if 
>>> that, to get the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After 
>>> removing the wiper washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine 
>>> belt, I had easy access
>> from
>>> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, 
>>> and
>> also
>>> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
>>> 
>>> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the 
>>> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely 
>>> apart and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper 
>>> PAG-46 oil filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on 
>>> the valve
>> plates,
>>> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil 
>>> or something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new 
>>> compressor
>> I
>>> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
>>> 
>>> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
>> special
>>> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch 
>>> while you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to 
>>> cover the compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back 
>>> on with the new shaft seal.
>>> 
>>> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill 
>>> the system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC 
>>> is now
>> back.
>>> 
>>> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  
>>> Press the button and the light comes on while you hold the button 
>>> down, but as soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to 
>>> troubleshoot that
>> yet,
>>> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yes, there are Sanden conversions for these.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sanden?
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/28/21 6:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Is there a more modern compressor that fits/works with W116 and W123 cars? 
>> They use the ACDelco "upside down" compressor IIRC. RockAuto lists one by 
>> Nissens, as well as remans by ACDelco and Four Seasons.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I'll buy you a beer to be my AC tech.  Hell maybe a six pack.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 6/28/21 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
 bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
 the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
 washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
 above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
 the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
 
 And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
 compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
 and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
 filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
 kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
 something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
 guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
 
 The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
 tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
 you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
 compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
 shaft seal.
 
 Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
 system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now 
 back.
 
 Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
 the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
 soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
 could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
 -
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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There's another one suggested for $35

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01B4Z8PKQ

This one is a good kit for $38

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08MTY51R4

--FT

On 6/28/21 7:15 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

This one is $55 - works fine
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KETEBJI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:07 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Harbor Freight has one that does DC for less than $100. I've got one, I
use it a lot.
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

   On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Hey, you're right.  I just looked at the
(cheepcheep) one I have and it
only does AC current.  h.  Never thought to look at the current part
of it, I usually just do the VOM functions.

--FT

On 6/28/21 4:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

It would have to be one that can do DC current. Most of the cheap ones

are AC only, AFAIK.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Clamp ammeter?  Put it on the cable from the battery.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I can but I’m not entirely sure I know how.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter

going south, can you check the amp draw on it?

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like

when cold it cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low
battery. Did have that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t
start. Truck is at operating temp and when you come out from a store to
start it, seems like it turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a
low battery problem because battery would be charged, and voltage while
running is fine. Battery is new and terminals look fine. I suppose I can
check the connections at the starter but is this a sign starter is getting
weak?

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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

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This one is $55 - works fine
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KETEBJI/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Harbor Freight has one that does DC for less than $100. I've got one, I
> use it a lot.
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   Hey, you're right.  I just looked at the
> (cheepcheep) one I have and it
> only does AC current.  h.  Never thought to look at the current part
> of it, I usually just do the VOM functions.
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/28/21 4:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > It would have to be one that can do DC current. Most of the cheap ones
> are AC only, AFAIK.
> >
> > Allan
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Clamp ammeter?  Put it on the cable from the battery.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I can but I’m not entirely sure I know how.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter
> going south, can you check the amp draw on it?
> 
>  --FT
>  Sent from iPhone
> 
> >> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like
> when cold it cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low
> battery. Did have that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t
> start. Truck is at operating temp and when you come out from a store to
> start it, seems like it turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a
> low battery problem because battery would be charged, and voltage while
> running is fine. Battery is new and terminals look fine. I suppose I can
> check the connections at the starter but is this a sign starter is getting
> weak?
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[MBZ] 1985 Mercedes 300 DT - $1,800 (Commerce)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Probably not a bad deal given prices these days if anyone is looking for 
a 300D


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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Sanden?

--FT

On 6/28/21 6:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Is there a more modern compressor that fits/works with W116 and W123 cars? They use the 
ACDelco "upside down" compressor IIRC. RockAuto lists one by Nissens, as well 
as remans by ACDelco and Four Seasons.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

I'll buy you a beer to be my AC tech.  Hell maybe a six pack.

--FT

On 6/28/21 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
the electrical connection on top of the compressor.

And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.

The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
shaft seal.

Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.

Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Is there a more modern compressor that fits/works with W116 and W123 cars? They 
use the ACDelco "upside down" compressor IIRC. RockAuto lists one by Nissens, 
as well as remans by ACDelco and Four Seasons.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> I'll buy you a beer to be my AC tech.  Hell maybe a six pack.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/28/21 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> > Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
> > bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
> > the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
> > washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
> > above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
> > the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> >
> > And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
> > compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
> > and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
> > filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
> > kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
> > something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
> > guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> >
> > The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
> > tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
> > you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
> > compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
> > shaft seal.
> >
> > Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
> > system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.
> >
> > Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
> > the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
> > soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
> > could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> > -
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> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Is it a full moon or just crack tonight?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Need to connect this guy with the other CL guy that wants to trade his w140
gasser for a diesel "of equivalent value" aka $9000.  I think they deserve
each other.
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

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I'll buy you a beer to be my AC tech.  Hell maybe a six pack.

--FT

On 6/28/21 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
the electrical connection on top of the compressor.

And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.

The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
shaft seal.

Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.

Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

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Now the truth comes out, poos ripped you off. 

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> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:09 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
> stuff, too.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
>> and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
>> again now, just to be sure.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
 bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
 the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
 washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
>>> from
 above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
>>> also
 the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
 
 And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
 compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
 and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
 filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
>>> plates,
 kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
 something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
>>> I
 guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
 
 The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
>>> special
 tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
 you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
 compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
 shaft seal.
 
 Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
 system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
>>> back.
 
 Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
 the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
 soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
>>> yet,
 could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I’m thinking we put a can of sealant into that system a while back. The good 
stuff, too.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 6:00 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
> and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
> again now, just to be sure.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
>>> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
>>> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
>>> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
>> from
>>> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
>> also
>>> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
>>> 
>>> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
>>> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
>>> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
>>> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
>> plates,
>>> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
>>> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
>> I
>>> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
>>> 
>>> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
>> special
>>> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
>>> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
>>> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
>>> shaft seal.
>>> 
>>> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
>>> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
>> back.
>>> 
>>> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
>>> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
>>> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
>> yet,
>>> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
>>> -
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>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Harbor Freight has one that does DC for less than $100. I've got one, I use it 
a lot.
Curt

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  On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes wrote:   Hey, you're right.  I just looked at 
the (cheepcheep) one I have and it 
only does AC current.  h.  Never thought to look at the current part 
of it, I usually just do the VOM functions.

--FT

On 6/28/21 4:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> It would have to be one that can do DC current. Most of the cheap ones are AC 
> only, AFAIK.
>
> Allan
>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Clamp ammeter?  Put it on the cable from the battery.
>>
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>>
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I can but I’m not entirely sure I know how.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
 On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter going 
 south, can you check the amp draw on it?

 --FT
 Sent from iPhone

>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when 
> cold it cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low 
> battery. Did have that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t 
> start. Truck is at operating temp and when you come out from a store to 
> start it, seems like it turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a 
> low battery problem because battery would be charged, and voltage while 
> running is fine. Battery is new and terminals look fine. I suppose I can 
> check the connections at the starter but is this a sign starter is 
> getting weak?
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yeah, last summer I put some test refrigerant in and got out the sniffer,
and no sign at all of leakage from the evap.  I should probably test it
again now, just to be sure.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:53 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
> > bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
> > the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
> > washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access
> from
> > above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and
> also
> > the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> >
> > And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
> > compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
> > and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
> > filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve
> plates,
> > kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
> > something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor
> I
> > guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> >
> > The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only
> special
> > tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
> > you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
> > compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
> > shaft seal.
> >
> > Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
> > system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now
> back.
> >
> > Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
> > the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
> > soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that
> yet,
> > could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> > -
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Re: [MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Glad it wasn’t the evaporator…

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
> bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
> the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
> washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
> above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
> the electrical connection on top of the compressor.
> 
> And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
> compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
> and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
> filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
> kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
> something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
> guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.
> 
> The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
> tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
> you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
> compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
> shaft seal.
> 
> Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
> system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.
> 
> Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
> the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
> soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
> could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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[MBZ] AC work this past weekend

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Finally got hot enough for me to decide to fix the AC in the '95 E300 I
bought from Dan a couple years ago.  Took all of an hour, if that, to get
the compressor out (front seal was leaking).  After removing the wiper
washer fluid tank and loosening the serpentine belt, I had easy access from
above to get all four bolts loose, remove the manifold connection, and also
the electrical connection on top of the compressor.

And then OCD takes over, and I spent about 5 hours cleaning off the
compressor, carefully opening it up, carefully taking it completely apart
and replacing every seal and o-ring, and using the proper PAG-46 oil
filling it back up with oil. There was some nastiness on the valve plates,
kind of burned looking, like maybe the compressor was run low on oil or
something.  If this thing dies, I'll have to spring for a new compressor I
guess.  Rebuilt two other compressors and never saw anything like this.

The nice thing about these Denso compressors, 10PA-15, is the only special
tool required is a belt wrench or a chain wrench to hold the clutch while
you loosen the front nut, and then a shaft seal sleave to cover the
compressor shaft splines as you press the front case back on with the new
shaft seal.

Popped that back in, replaced the filter/dryer, then vacuum and fill the
system up.  Took me about 8 hours all together, but ICE COLD AC is now back.

Only weird thing is that the recirculation function doesn't work.  Press
the button and the light comes on while you hold the button down, but as
soon as you let go, the light goes out.  Not able to troubleshoot that yet,
could be a bad switch I suppose or might be the PBU.
-
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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well if the battery is charged and passes a load test, that leaves the
connections to the starter and the starter itself.  Check that all the
connections are clean and bright and tight, don't forget the ground strap
between engine (or transmission) and the body.

On SWMBO's '96 Infiniti, it started cranking over slow and not starting.
Turned out that the starter is grounded via the bolts to the transmission,
and it is very common to get corrosion between the trans and the engine
block.  The engine block is grounded to the body.  I bought a few generic
battery cables, pre-made with ends already crimped on, and added more
ground cables from the starter to the engine block and then from the block
to the point on the body where the battery is grounded.  About $15 in parts
and a couple hours later and that starter is REALLY fast and starts the car
with no problems.
-
Max
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On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 3:58 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when cold
> it cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low battery. Did
> have that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t start. Truck is
> at operating temp and when you come out from a store to start it, seems
> like it turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a low battery
> problem because battery would be charged, and voltage while running is
> fine. Battery is new and terminals look fine. I suppose I can check the
> connections at the starter but is this a sign starter is getting weak?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Hey, you're right.  I just looked at the (cheepcheep) one I have and it 
only does AC current.  h.  Never thought to look at the current part 
of it, I usually just do the VOM functions.


--FT

On 6/28/21 4:59 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

It would have to be one that can do DC current. Most of the cheap ones are AC 
only, AFAIK.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Clamp ammeter?  Put it on the cable from the battery.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I can but I’m not entirely sure I know how.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter going 
south, can you check the amp draw on it?

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when cold it 
cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low battery. Did have 
that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t start. Truck is at 
operating temp and when you come out from a store to start it, seems like it 
turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a low battery problem because 
battery would be charged, and voltage while running is fine. Battery is new and 
terminals look fine. I suppose I can check the connections at the starter but 
is this a sign starter is getting weak?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It would have to be one that can do DC current. Most of the cheap ones are AC 
only, AFAIK.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> Clamp ammeter?  Put it on the cable from the battery. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > I can but I’m not entirely sure I know how. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter going 
> >> south, can you check the amp draw on it?
> >> 
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >> 
>  On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when 
> >>> cold it cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low 
> >>> battery. Did have that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t 
> >>> start. Truck is at operating temp and when you come out from a store to 
> >>> start it, seems like it turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a 
> >>> low battery problem because battery would be charged, and voltage while 
> >>> running is fine. Battery is new and terminals look fine. I suppose I can 
> >>> check the connections at the starter but is this a sign starter is 
> >>> getting weak?
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Clamp ammeter?  Put it on the cable from the battery. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:22 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I can but I’m not entirely sure I know how. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter going 
>> south, can you check the amp draw on it?
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when cold 
>>> it cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low battery. Did 
>>> have that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t start. Truck is 
>>> at operating temp and when you come out from a store to start it, seems 
>>> like it turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a low battery 
>>> problem because battery would be charged, and voltage while running is 
>>> fine. Battery is new and terminals look fine. I suppose I can check the 
>>> connections at the starter but is this a sign starter is getting weak?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Maybe something like this (never used one myself)

https://www.toolsource.com/alternator-testers-c-24_25/alternatorgenerator-starter-current-indicator-p-58428.html

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I can but I’m not entirely sure I know how. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter going 
> > south, can you check the amp draw on it?
> > 
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when cold 
> >> it cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low battery. Did 
> >> have that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t start. Truck 
> >> is at operating temp and when you come out from a store to start it, seems 
> >> like it turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a low battery 
> >> problem because battery would be charged, and voltage while running is 
> >> fine. Battery is new and terminals look fine. I suppose I can check the 
> >> connections at the starter but is this a sign starter is getting weak?
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I can but I’m not entirely sure I know how. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:17 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter going 
> south, can you check the amp draw on it?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when cold 
>> it cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low battery. Did 
>> have that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t start. Truck is 
>> at operating temp and when you come out from a store to start it, seems like 
>> it turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a low battery problem 
>> because battery would be charged, and voltage while running is fine. Battery 
>> is new and terminals look fine. I suppose I can check the connections at the 
>> starter but is this a sign starter is getting weak?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

You inherited Hoovie’s luck with that thing. Yeah probably starter going south, 
can you check the amp draw on it?

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when cold it 
> cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low battery. Did have 
> that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t start. Truck is at 
> operating temp and when you come out from a store to start it, seems like it 
> turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a low battery problem because 
> battery would be charged, and voltage while running is fine. Battery is new 
> and terminals look fine. I suppose I can check the connections at the starter 
> but is this a sign starter is getting weak?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Fuses or controllers or switches, a scan would suggest wherein the problems 
reside 

The seats in 210s seem to be prone to various failures

--FT
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> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Drive it until it breaks and then walk away.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 11:54 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I no write?
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/28/21 11:42 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Exactly. That’s why I used the proper spelling.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Parts and LABOUR
> >>
> >> —FT
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> At least they’ve rebuilt the brakes. That’s easily $3k-$5k of parts
> and labour.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
>  vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently,
> because
>  it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run
> While
>  Parked".
> 
> > On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.
> >
> > "$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
> > possible"
> >
> > I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar
> German-American
> > SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.
> >
> > And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
> > 43yo Roller?
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Sorry, this is it:
> >>
> >>
> >
> https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late
> > being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
> >>> --FT
> >>>
> >>> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
>  FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
> 
>  Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
> 
>  -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

There are as many as three fuse blocks in these cars. Stuff breaks and then 
people have no idea where to find the fuses.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 4:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> IMO wipers and headlights are critical safety devices and should be fused 
> individually with no other loads on the circuit, and direct switching (maybe 
> via a relay but nothing electronic on a common bus). I had a Dodge minivan 
> with an electrical issue where ALL the accessories (wipers included) would 
> cut out randomly, and it put me in a dangerous situation more than once.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 3:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Could be. That many electrical issues would suggest fuses. Not a bad looking 
>> car. Kleb says the E430s are quite sprightly!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

IMO wipers and headlights are critical safety devices and should be fused 
individually with no other loads on the circuit, and direct switching (maybe 
via a relay but nothing electronic on a common bus). I had a Dodge minivan with 
an electrical issue where ALL the accessories (wipers included) would cut out 
randomly, and it put me in a dangerous situation more than once.

Allan


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 3:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Could be. That many electrical issues would suggest fuses. Not a bad looking 
> car. Kleb says the E430s are quite sprightly!
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
> > 
> > https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
> > 
> > Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

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Cut the deal with the seller and I’ll go pick it up and park it at my place. 
You can crash here and enjoy the pool if you like, too.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Dang I would be all over that. In fact maybe I should have poos pick it up 
> for me and I fly down to get it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Could be. That many electrical issues would suggest fuses. Not a bad 
>> looking car. Kleb says the E430s are quite sprightly!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
>>> 
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Dang I would be all over that. In fact maybe I should have poos pick it up for 
me and I fly down to get it. 

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> On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Could be. That many electrical issues would suggest fuses. Not a bad looking 
> car. Kleb says the E430s are quite sprightly!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
>> 
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[MBZ] 642 slow crank

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Driving around with the wife today in the hoovie GL. Seems like when cold it 
cranks over slower than it should like it would with a low battery. Did have 
that battery drain problem if sitting for a week won’t start. Truck is at 
operating temp and when you come out from a store to start it, seems like it 
turns over even slower than when cold. Can’t be a low battery problem because 
battery would be charged, and voltage while running is fine. Battery is new and 
terminals look fine. I suppose I can check the connections at the starter but 
is this a sign starter is getting weak?

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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Could be. That many electrical issues would suggest fuses. Not a bad looking 
car. Kleb says the E430s are quite sprightly!

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Oh Dan

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Since it also says the front windows and drivers seat are inop, that sounds 
like a fuse to me. Or mice have been chewing on wires.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 3:50 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html
> 
> Rick
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[MBZ] Oh Dan

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Says the wipers don't work. Fuse? Rain sensor?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-2001-mercedes-e430-for-sale/7343395475.html

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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I bought a smart charger (BT-C3400) for these small (aa, AAA, 18650)
batteries which can test recharge/discharge to measure capacity.  It does
NiCD and NiMH as well as Li-ion.
I found the cheap Chinese Li-ion batteries had poor (way below spec)
capacity that deteriorated with each recharge.  For example, an Ultrafire
18650, with a label capacity of 9800 mAh actually delivered only 260, 214,
and 161 mAh on three consecutive charge/discharge cycles.
On the other hand, I bought some unmarked AA-size (14500) Japanese SANYO
batteries (https://www.ebay.com/itm/233176228234).  They are nominally 800
mAh and delivered 81x mAh on several successive recharge  cycles.
Nearly all (fresh) alkaline batteries are close in performance, in my
experience.  But beware cheap Chinese Li-ion rechargeables, they'll just end
up your junk drawer.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2021 9:24 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost -
even on ebay.  Must be the price inflation for Li.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the 
> long run they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you 
> wont need to find and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use
too.
> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED 
> lights in it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take 
> one out when we go home or the lights stay on...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the 
> same rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were
banned.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you 
> > screw into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust 
> > to aim them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  
> > I had seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than 
> > that, like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the 
> > garage shop when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much 
> > more light than a 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a 
> > large area.  I think I'm going to get another set to go into these 
> > little rooms in the back of the garage where I have other stuff.
> >
> > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. 
> > They are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I managed to find some 12v replacements for the halogen recessed lights in our 
kitchen. The light quality is much better, they use 1/5th of the power and 
hopefully will last much longer. Those halogen bulbs were only good for 2-3 
years each and are a real pain to replace.

-Curt

On Monday, June 28, 2021, 1:29:53 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The best ones I've had are some "corn cob" bulbs I bought on Amazon a few 
years ago. They came in unlabeled packaging so don't know what brand they are. 
I have them in outside fixtures and so far they have held up. I don't buy from 
Amazon anymore and have not been able to find those elsewhere locally, or I 
would have them in the garage as well.

Indoor bulbs I have bought from Lowes. GE or Feit are the brands I've seen. 
Just had to replace one in the laundry room the other day as it had developed a 
strobe-light like flicker.

Bathroom has clear glass globe lights, I recently bought some GE LEDs to 
replace those ($16 for 4 bulbs). They look more like incandescents, the LEDs 
are in thin thread-like arrangements that look more like indandescent 
filaments. We'll see how those hold up. They do kick off MUCH less heat than 
the incandescent bulbs, which is something.

Allan


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 1:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying?
> 
> I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are at 
> least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one.
> 
> I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 
> hours a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have 
> something to do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate 
> extremes it’s exposed to.
> 
> I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”.
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It depends on which ones you buy. Surprisingly the Cree units I bought early 
on (about 10 years ago) have had a poor lifespan. As you say the controllers 
give up. Since then I've been buying Sylvania and had zero failures.
National Grid recently had a deal, 20 bulbs for $10 with free shipping. Other 
than taking 4 weeks to arrive it seems like a pretty good deal. They had some 
nice candelabra bulbs with full size bases that fit our ceiling fans. I'd had 
trouble getting that style bulb with the big base.
Most of the rest of the bulbs are going into the house up north which is full 
of 100w incandescent bulbs. Oh, one of the 100w equivalent should go into the 
garage to replace the last CFL. I'm amazed that one has survived, it really 
suffers in the cold.
-Curt

On Monday, June 28, 2021, 1:14:07 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I have not experienced the LED lights lasting longer. Maybe the LEDs 
themselves do, but there are electronics to convert the 120VAC line supply to 
whatever the LED needs and that seems to be the weak point. I am replacing LED 
bulbs (and CFLs before that) about as often as I did incandescents.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run 
> they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find 
> and replace as much.
> LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
> 
> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in 
> it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we 
> go home or the lights stay on...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same 
> rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw 
> > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim 
> > them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had 
> > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, 
> > like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop 
> > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 
> > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm 
> > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of 
> > the garage where I have other stuff.
> > 
> > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They 
> > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
> > 
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[MBZ] Being sold on AS IS basis. Mercedes S550 4matic - $9, 500 (Rock Hill)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Cure my headache... my walletache...

New transmission at 186K miles.

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/rock-hill-mercedes-s550-4matic/7343359605.html

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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I won't touch a CFL anymore, except to use up the box of spares the
power company sent me a few times.

My favorite bulbs are the 40W-equivalent exposed 'filament' lamps,
by Philips.  No visible power supply, it's encased in the screw base.
The envelope is helium-filled, because helium is an excellent heat
conductor.  I've had them in the outdoor fixtures for over two years
now, and in the interior stairway lights.  I've only lost one, apparently
they don't like to be submerged!  (Rain blew in a weird direction during
a torrential storm, and filled the globe over the entryway.  Probably
ruined the power supply.)

These bulbs care not about extreme cold, and run from dusk to 11:30
every day.  (The outside ones.)

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 1998 C43 AMG - $1,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Someone could probably get this for a Kleb price.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/delaware-98-c43-amg/7343206346.html

Allan
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[MBZ] 2003 E320 - 270k miles - $4,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

A little pricy for the miles. I like the color.

https://southbend.craigslist.org/cto/d/middlebury-2003-mercedes-e320/7343224793.html

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Mine are primarily GEs from Lowe’s. I have some big globes I used to replace 
similar incandescents in our guest bath. Big and clunky, but put out more light 
and far, far less heat. They’re now used in a new fixture that inverts them, so 
it will be interesting to see how that might affect them.

One place I’ve found LEDs to be significantly better is in the underside light 
on my microwave. On microwaves that are mounted over a stove the work lights 
they offer are typically 40W “appliance” bulbs that are really weak when it 
comes to illumination. I bought a “corncob” style 40W equivalent for our new 
microwave, and it makes a major difference on the amount of light that shines 
on the stove top.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The best ones I've had are some "corn cob" bulbs I bought on Amazon a few 
> years ago. They came in unlabeled packaging so don't know what brand they 
> are. I have them in outside fixtures and so far they have held up. I don't 
> buy from Amazon anymore and have not been able to find those elsewhere 
> locally, or I would have them in the garage as well.
> 
> Indoor bulbs I have bought from Lowes. GE or Feit are the brands I've seen. 
> Just had to replace one in the laundry room the other day as it had developed 
> a strobe-light like flicker.
> 
> Bathroom has clear glass globe lights, I recently bought some GE LEDs to 
> replace those ($16 for 4 bulbs). They look more like incandescents, the LEDs 
> are in thin thread-like arrangements that look more like indandescent 
> filaments. We'll see how those hold up. They do kick off MUCH less heat than 
> the incandescent bulbs, which is something.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 1:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying?
>> 
>> I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are 
>> at least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one.
>> 
>> I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 
>> hours a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have 
>> something to do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate 
>> extremes it’s exposed to.
>> 
>> I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”.
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

The best ones I've had are some "corn cob" bulbs I bought on Amazon a few years 
ago. They came in unlabeled packaging so don't know what brand they are. I have 
them in outside fixtures and so far they have held up. I don't buy from Amazon 
anymore and have not been able to find those elsewhere locally, or I would have 
them in the garage as well.

Indoor bulbs I have bought from Lowes. GE or Feit are the brands I've seen. 
Just had to replace one in the laundry room the other day as it had developed a 
strobe-light like flicker.

Bathroom has clear glass globe lights, I recently bought some GE LEDs to 
replace those ($16 for 4 bulbs). They look more like incandescents, the LEDs 
are in thin thread-like arrangements that look more like indandescent 
filaments. We'll see how those hold up. They do kick off MUCH less heat than 
the incandescent bulbs, which is something.

Allan


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 1:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying?
> 
> I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are at 
> least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one.
> 
> I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 
> hours a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have 
> something to do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate 
> extremes it’s exposed to.
> 
> I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”.
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Maybe it’s the quality of the lamps you’re buying?

I buy only name brand, like GE, and I’ve got a house full of them that are at 
least a couple years old or more. Have yet to replace one.

I did have to replace one in an outside fixture, but it’s on roughly 8-12 hours 
a day and it’s in an inverted position, which I suspect might have something to 
do with the failure, not to mention the temperature and climate extremes it’s 
exposed to.

I gladly use LEDs over CFLs, as I hate having to wait for them to “warm up”.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 1:12 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have not experienced the LED lights lasting longer. Maybe the LEDs 
> themselves do, but there are electronics to convert the 120VAC line supply to 
> whatever the LED needs and that seems to be the weak point. I am replacing 
> LED bulbs (and CFLs before that) about as often as I did incandescents.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> 
>> These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run 
>> they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find 
>> and replace as much.
>> LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
>> 
>> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in 
>> it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we 
>> go home or the lights stay on...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same 
>> rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw 
>>> into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim 
>>> them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had 
>>> seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, 
>>> like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop 
>>> when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 
>>> 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm 
>>> going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of 
>>> the garage where I have other stuff.
>>> 
>>> If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They 
>>> are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> --FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I have not experienced the LED lights lasting longer. Maybe the LEDs themselves 
do, but there are electronics to convert the 120VAC line supply to whatever the 
LED needs and that seems to be the weak point. I am replacing LED bulbs (and 
CFLs before that) about as often as I did incandescents.

Allan

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, at 8:02 AM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run 
> they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find 
> and replace as much.
> LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
> 
> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in 
> it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we 
> go home or the lights stay on...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same 
> rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw 
> > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim 
> > them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had 
> > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, 
> > like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop 
> > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 
> > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm 
> > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of 
> > the garage where I have other stuff.
> > 
> > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They 
> > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
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Re: [MBZ] buy my ratty turd Mercedes Benz - $6,000 (summerville)

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Same color as diluted pea soup.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021, 10:10 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The sound of CL desperation...
>
> I'd prefer to trade rather than sell my 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 for a
> Mercedes Diesel of equal value.
> My car is in very good condition but shows the wear of being as old as
> it is.
> The mileage is 256K which is relatively low when figured to less than
> 11000 each year since purchase. Look some of the pictures over to get a
> better feel for this car. It is a 6 cylinder (not a gas guzzler at all
> but does burn only PREMIUM/Hi Test fuel). The MICHELINS have about 10K
> miles on them
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-mercedes-benz/7343042507.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I no write?

--FT

On 6/28/21 11:42 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Exactly. That’s why I used the proper spelling.

-D


On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Parts and LABOUR

—FT

Sent from my iPad


On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

At least they’ve rebuilt the brakes. That’s easily $3k-$5k of parts and labour.

-D


On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently, because
it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run While
Parked".


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.

"$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
possible"

I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar German-American
SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.

And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
43yo Roller?

--FT

On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry, this is it:



https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii

-D


On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.

Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late

being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama

--FT

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115

FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k

Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.

-D



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Re: [MBZ] Okie/Floyd Acres Potential

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks reasonalby nice but has some right-side dings.  Throw the scanner 
on it and see if it is CP issues.  I'd go $800, spend an afternoon and 
$150 for a new CP and fluid/filter and flip it for $2k.  I got the 99 in 
better shape for $600, new CP, I need to sell that thing now.


--FT

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Conductor plate?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1998-mercedes-benz-e320/7343271703.html

-D
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[MBZ] Okie/Floyd Acres Potential

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Conductor plate?

https://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/cto/d/tampa-1998-mercedes-benz-e320/7343271703.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Exactly. That’s why I used the proper spelling.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:41 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Parts and LABOUR
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> At least they’ve rebuilt the brakes. That’s easily $3k-$5k of parts and 
>> labour.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
>>> vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently, because
>>> it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run While
>>> Parked".
>>> 
 On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.
 
 "$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
 possible"
 
 I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar German-American
 SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.
 
 And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
 43yo Roller?
 
 --FT
 
 On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Sorry, this is it:
> 
> 
 https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
>> 
>> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late
 being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
>>> 
>>> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
>>> 
>>> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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[MBZ] Fwd: German Cars For Sale Blog

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

This is nice. Love the color.

-D

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1997 Mercedes-Benz 
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With basically all the attention paid to the E55 AMG when talking about the 
W210 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, I think sometimes we forget that there was another 
V8 in the family. Well, technically two V8s with the aging M119 in the E420 and 
the new kid on the block M113 with the facelift E430. Today, we have one of the 
best early E420s I think I’ve come across in a long time, and even better, it 
is painted in Viola Metallic. This won’t last long.

CLICK FOR DETAILS: 1997 Mercedes-Benz E420 on 
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Year: 1997
Model: E420
VIN: WDBJF72F4VA108344
Engine: 4.2 liter V8
Transmission: 5-speed automatic
Mileage: 57,450 mi
Location: San Diego, California
Price: $8,950 Buy It Now

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About this vehicle
This 1997 Mercedes-Benz E420 is an original. The owner has had it for 3 years. 
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Seller’s Notes
I have more pictures and video available, please let me know No low ball 
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Vehicle Details
Mercedes Benz E W210 with V8, this is an original low miles car, with a clean 
history in amazing shape, it still feels like a new car when you drive it, the 
interior is like new, the paint is beautiful, no leaks whatsoever, all manual 
books come with the car. XENON headlights with washer system, Mercedes 
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column, heated seats, sunroof, climate control, BOSE sound system e.t.c. 
Everything is fully functional. zero rust, no dents all necessary maintaice has 
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Parts and LABOUR

—FT

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> At least they’ve rebuilt the brakes. That’s easily $3k-$5k of parts and 
> labour.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
>> vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently, because
>> it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run While
>> Parked".
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.
>>> 
>>> "$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
>>> possible"
>>> 
>>> I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar German-American
>>> SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.
>>> 
>>> And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
>>> 43yo Roller?
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 Sorry, this is it:
 
 
>>> https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
 
 -D
 
> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
> 
> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late
>>> being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
>> 
>> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
>> 
>> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

At least they’ve rebuilt the brakes. That’s easily $3k-$5k of parts and labour.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 11:12 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
> vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently, because
> it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run While
> Parked".
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.
>> 
>> "$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
>> possible"
>> 
>> I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar German-American
>> SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.
>> 
>> And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
>> 43yo Roller?
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>> On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Sorry, this is it:
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
 
 Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late
>> being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
 
 --FT
 
 On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
> 
> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
> 
> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

[G Mann via Mercedes]

You do know that all Rolls Royce come equipped with an engine driven
vacuum pump that only connects to your bank accounts. Apparently, because
it is a Rolls Royce, the vacuum pump does indeed continue to "Run While
Parked".

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.
>
> "$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades
> possible"
>
> I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar German-American
> SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.
>
> And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown
> 43yo Roller?
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Sorry, this is it:
> >
> >
> https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
> >>
> >> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late
> being within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
> >>>
> >>> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
> >>>
> >>> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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Floyd, you know you need it. ;))


On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 7:50 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Sorry, this is it:
>
>
> https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii
>
> -D
>
> > On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
> >
> > Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late being
> within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
> >>
> >> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
> >>
> >> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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Silver Shadow II ! Or 11.  Or Li.

"$10K is asking price but will consider serious cash offers, trades 
possible"


I might seriously offer to trade a much newer wunderbar German-American 
SUV with AC that BLOWS ICE COLD.


And seriously, what could possibly go wrong with a tutone turd-brown 
43yo Roller?


--FT

On 6/28/21 10:49 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry, this is it:

https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii

-D


On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.

Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late being within 
the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama

--FT

On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115

FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k

Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.

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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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Sorry, this is it:

https://blackjackmotorcarsllc.com/inventory/30026/view/001385/Tampa-FL/1978-Rolls%20Royce-Silver%20Shadow%20Ii

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.
> 
> Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late being 
> within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115
>> 
>> FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k
>> 
>> Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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Looks like you gotta be a local member to see posts.

Maybe you could go check it out for me, I could trade a late (late being 
within the last 15yr) model German SUV imported from Alabama


--FT

On 6/28/21 10:24 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115

FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k

Pretty solid with some interior cosmetics needed.

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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

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Agreed, the enloops are by far the best rechargeables out there in my 
experience.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2021, at 10:03 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> How much is shocking? Amazon has Panasonic enloops @ $15 for 4. Its a little 
> more than I paid for Sanyos in 2014 ($12) but not staggeringly.
> I wouldn't buy anything other than enloops and I'd stick to a name brand.
> Get a good charger too, I have the older version of this: 
> https://www.amazon.com/Powerex-MH-C9000PRO-Professional-Charger-Analyzer/dp/B08DJDQ4Y8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1=maha=1624888949=8-3
> The only thing I buy batteries for is the game camera, because theytake 8x 
> AAs and the batteries last a year anyway...
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, June 28, 2021, 9:24:11 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
>  wrote:  
> 
> I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost - 
> even on ebay.  Must be the price inflation for Li.
> 
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>  These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run 
> they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find 
> and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in 
> it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we 
> go home or the lights stay on...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
>  Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same 
> rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw 
>> into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim 
>> them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had 
>> seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, 
>> like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop 
>> when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 
>> 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm 
>> going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of 
>> the garage where I have other stuff.
>> 
>> If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They 
>> are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
>> 
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[MBZ] Floyd's New Ride

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/370523373026985/permalink/4155471694532115/?sale_post_id=4155471694532115

FB listing for a 1978 Rolls Royce Silve Spur. $10k

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[MBZ] Miles sorta high but looks nice 2003 Mercedes Benz CLK320 - $4, 300 (Cary)

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Probably not a wildly unreasonable price these days if the top works

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/cary-2003-mercedes-benz-clk320/7343196333.html

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[MBZ] buy my ratty turd Mercedes Benz - $6,000 (summerville)

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The sound of CL desperation...

I'd prefer to trade rather than sell my 1997 Mercedes Benz S320 for a 
Mercedes Diesel of equal value.
My car is in very good condition but shows the wear of being as old as 
it is.
The mileage is 256K which is relatively low when figured to less than 
11000 each year since purchase. Look some of the pictures over to get a 
better feel for this car. It is a 6 cylinder (not a gas guzzler at all 
but does burn only PREMIUM/Hi Test fuel). The MICHELINS have about 10K 
miles on them


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-mercedes-benz/7343042507.html

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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

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 How much is shocking? Amazon has Panasonic enloops @ $15 for 4. Its a little 
more than I paid for Sanyos in 2014 ($12) but not staggeringly.
I wouldn't buy anything other than enloops and I'd stick to a name brand.
Get a good charger too, I have the older version of this: 
https://www.amazon.com/Powerex-MH-C9000PRO-Professional-Charger-Analyzer/dp/B08DJDQ4Y8/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1=maha=1624888949=8-3
The only thing I buy batteries for is the game camera, because theytake 8x AAs 
and the batteries last a year anyway...

-Curt

On Monday, June 28, 2021, 9:24:11 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost - even 
on ebay.  Must be the price inflation for Li.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run 
they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find and 
replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in it. 
They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we go home 
or the lights stay on...

-Curt

    On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  

 Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same rated 
incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.


On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw 
> into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim 
> them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had 
> seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, 
> like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop 
> when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 
> 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm 
> going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of 
> the garage where I have other stuff.
> 
> If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They 
> are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

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The miners are running out of child slaves to mine the raw materials so 
the prices are going up


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On 6/28/21 9:23 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost -
even on ebay.  Must be the price inflation for Li.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


  These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long
run they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to
find and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in
it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we
go home or the lights stay on...

-Curt

 On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

  Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same
rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.


On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw
into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim
them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had
seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that,
like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop
when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a
100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm
going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of
the garage where I have other stuff.

If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They
are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!

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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

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I needed some rechargeable AAAs and D cells and was shocked at the cost -
even on ebay.  Must be the price inflation for Li.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 8:03 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long
> run they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to
> find and replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
> One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in
> it. They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we
> go home or the lights stay on...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same
> rated incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw
> > into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim
> > them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had
> > seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that,
> > like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop
> > when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a
> > 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm
> > going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of
> > the garage where I have other stuff.
> >
> > If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They
> > are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2006 ML320 - 214k miles - $4,800

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Ouch.

On Sun, Jun 27, 2021 at 11:46 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Those who matter, know
>
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> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jun 27, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > You would think they would put the badge on the tailgate for the sake of
> > prestige if nothing else
> >
> >> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 6:30 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Yes.
> >>
> >> I believe that W164s are branded as being “4Matic” where W163s were AWD
> >> but not branded 4Matic. Both are AWD, however.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jun 27, 2021, at 6:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As discussed a few weeks ago, all MLs are AWD?
> >>>
> >>> This thread was referenced:
> >> https://www.benzworld.org/threads/all-mls-are-awd.1437096/
> >>>
> >>> Also the ad says it is AWD.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, at 5:38 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>  Neither 4matic nor diesel. Pass.
> 
>  On Sun, Jun 27, 2021, 4:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > Maybe priced a little high but not too crazy if everything is
> working.
> >> Has a tow hitch.
> >
> >
> >>
> https://clarksville.craigslist.org/cto/d/clarksville-mercedes-benz-06-ml-350/7342843886.html
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[MBZ] Affordable '78 vintage Porch 924 on BAT

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Quite ugly yet compellingly iconic in a perverse sort of way.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-porsche-924-10/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2021-06-28
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Re: [MBZ] FCPEuro

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I spent my Peace Corps years in a former British colony (Fiji) where the ex
pats wore knee high socks with their sandals.  For PC volunteers, flip
flops were *de rigeuer* to distance ourselves from the colonial masters.

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 7:57 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I ordered some oil for Angie's car the week before last hoping to change
> it the weekend before last. FCPEuro was the cheapest but I figured it'd
> take awhile. IDParts was $5 more expensive but their cheap shipping ($5) is
> usually overnight since they're only about 70 miles away.
> Buggers didn't ship the oil until the following Monday. It arrived on
> Tuesday as predicted but the delay in handing off to the shipper really
> soured me... Next time I'll try FCPEuro.
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 8:27:37 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  I ordered 2 transmission service kits for the $900E500 and $1200ML500
> Thursday evening. Selected the free shipping option that said it would be
> here next Friday. Ok fine. 2-day shipping was a lot.
>
> Got messages this morning it’s on a fedex truck for delivery today,
> shipped out of Milford CT yesterday. Free 2-day shipping, almost as good as
> Amazon Prime which delivered a fluid pump yesterday evening late after
> ordering it Thursday too.
>
> Learnings:  Don’t pay for expedited shipping.
>
> Looks like I can try to get the $1200ML500 sorted tomorrow, see if I can
> get it transmitting properly. The E I gotta send off for a new conductor
> plate ($$$) and get that running.
>
> If the ML works that’s a quick flip as I don’t particularly care for it.
> Even if not I’ll try to unload it.  The E is very nice and entertaining to
> drive though a quite boring color combo, so I might enjoy it for a little
> while and pretend to be a boring old white man. Maybe I should break out
> some black knee socks and sandals.
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Shop/garage LED lights

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 These will use like 1/5 of the energy and last 20x as long. In the long run 
they're a way better deal if for no other reason than you wont need to find and 
replace as much.LEDs are much more rugged in use too.
One of my favorite features of the gas fridge at camp is the LED lights in it. 
They use 3x AA batteries, just have to remember to take one out when we go home 
or the lights stay on...

-Curt

On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 4:35:59 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Funny how we are happy to now pay $20+ for two 100W bulbs, when the same rated 
incandescent bulbs would have cost maybe $1 before they were banned.


On Sat, Jun 26, 2021, at 4:29 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> I was at Costco this afternoon and they had these LED lights you screw 
> into a regular bulb fixture, they have 3 parts you can adjust to aim 
> them to the side, down, whatever.  Pack of 2 for $20 on sale.  I had 
> seen these things on web adverts and they were a bit more than that, 
> like $11 or $13 each.  So I bought a set and put them in the garage shop 
> when I got home. WHOA These things are great, much more light than a 
> 100W bulb and you can orient them to shine on a large area.  I think I'm 
> going to get another set to go into these little rooms in the back of 
> the garage where I have other stuff.
> 
> If you are a Costco member I would strongly recommend getting some. They 
> are so transformative Bob is now my auntie!
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> 
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Re: [MBZ] FCPEuro

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I ordered some oil for Angie's car the week before last hoping to change it 
the weekend before last. FCPEuro was the cheapest but I figured it'd take 
awhile. IDParts was $5 more expensive but their cheap shipping ($5) is usually 
overnight since they're only about 70 miles away.
Buggers didn't ship the oil until the following Monday. It arrived on Tuesday 
as predicted but the delay in handing off to the shipper really soured me... 
Next time I'll try FCPEuro.
-Curt

On Saturday, June 26, 2021, 8:27:37 AM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I ordered 2 transmission service kits for the $900E500 and $1200ML500 Thursday 
evening. Selected the free shipping option that said it would be here next 
Friday. Ok fine. 2-day shipping was a lot. 

Got messages this morning it’s on a fedex truck for delivery today, shipped out 
of Milford CT yesterday. Free 2-day shipping, almost as good as Amazon Prime 
which delivered a fluid pump yesterday evening late after ordering it Thursday 
too. 

Learnings:  Don’t pay for expedited shipping. 

Looks like I can try to get the $1200ML500 sorted tomorrow, see if I can get it 
transmitting properly. The E I gotta send off for a new conductor plate ($$$) 
and get that running. 

If the ML works that’s a quick flip as I don’t particularly care for it.  Even 
if not I’ll try to unload it.  The E is very nice and entertaining to drive 
though a quite boring color combo, so I might enjoy it for a little while and 
pretend to be a boring old white man. Maybe I should break out some black knee 
socks and sandals.  

--FT
Sent from iPhone
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