Re: [MBZ] Nomination for eBay's idiot of the week
Well I'd say all those are fair comments, I admit I was lazy with the cap lock thing, and as far as spelling, well I couldn't proofread it even one more time without my eyes crossing, it is too long to work it out and as it was it was late at night and I just couldn't put it off another day. I don't think the spelling errors per capita are so bad I'll be very surprised if it sells, too, but like I said, what the hell. Might be worth the publicity stunt...will be interesting to watch. Thanks + Regards, Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. __ From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nomination for eBay's idiot of the week Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 08:05:46 -0500 Firefox has spell check too. --R Allan Streib wrote: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1y -WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQr dZ1QQcmdZViewItem Um you had your caps-lock key on when you wrote that listing. Seriosuly -- makes for very difficult reading. I stopped after the first paragraph. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ [1]Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe. Claim your treat today! References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2743??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nomination for eBay's idiot of the week
I thought I would beat Kaleb to the punch! I considered awaiting to see if anyone here would notice, but I didn't want to miss any value in whatever sage counsel and frank opinion might be come of it. I realize I may have brought my sanity further into question, so besides that. I figure what the hell, you only live once, right? [1]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1 y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. _ [2]Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. References 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 2. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2740??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nomination for eBay's idiot of the week
Maybe the link will work this time, or is this a security feature I don't know about? Sorry. Well there it is anyway. [1]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1 y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. __ From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] Nomination for eBay's idiot of the week Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 05:52:27 + I thought I would beat Kaleb to the punch! I considered awaiting to see if anyone here would notice, but I didn't want to miss any value in whatever sage counsel and frank opinion might be come of it. I realize I may have brought my sanity further into question, so besides that. I figure what the hell, you only live once, right? [1]http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Unde r-1 y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQ Qrd Z1QQcmdZViewItem Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. _ [2]Kick back and relax with hot games and cool activities at the Messenger Café. References 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1 y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 2. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2740??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ [2]Discover sweet stuff waiting for you at the Messenger Cafe. Claim your treat today! References 1. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1982-300D-Very-Clean-250-NEW-Parts-Under-1y-WARRANTY_W0QQitemZ320162514416QQihZ011QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 2. http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2743??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Steering box set screw for doing alignments
Thanks for your helpful response, lookng forward to my next chance to use it. Cheers Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. __ I believe that the alignment of the wheels can be perfect, with regard to camber, castor, and toe in. Yet, the steering wheel can still be ANYWHERE, if it is not properly centered to start with. Yes, there is a 60 degree cone for the centering bolt to register into. How deep the bolt goes into the steering box I cannot tell you as I have never seen a factory bolt. I suppose a pointed bolt would lock the steering, even if it missed the designated hole! To see if you are close, I would take note of the least amount of angle the steering wheel is at when the turn signals canceled. If it was about the same in each direction, I would consider the steering shaft centered. Finally, there should be a hashmark on the end of the steering shaft that would line up with a similar mark on the steering wheel. You would have to remove the nut to see the wheel marking. Jim Friesen Phoenix AZ _ [1]Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2728??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Steering box set screw for doing alignments
Hi Everyone! Anyone have this item and use it? I bought one and have tried to use it, it seemed to lock the steering wheel when we had it straight, but after the alignment (which was good) the steering wheel rested center to one side. (I do know all about road crown, so beyond that) When using this screw right, does it go in all the way? Should there be a defined divit inside the box's shaft that allows full immersion of the set screw when the box is truly centered? I could not feel one any where close with the steering wheel being center and level, which I realize may be an issuse of the steering wheel being mounted on the spline off the right position. The turn signal release positions seem to be fine, so I'm not ready to experiment with physically re-aligning the steering wheel on its spline yet. Any chance there is some compensation factor in the programing of modern electronic alignment machines that makes the use of the set screw unecessary, and to use one would actually throw it off? All the machines seem to note the need for the toe spreader bar, but they never mention this set screw. I'd appreciate some of your experience and wisdom in this matter. Cheers! Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org _ [1]Can you find the hidden words? Take a break and play Seekadoo! References 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMAENUS/2728??PS=47575 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
Vince, your listings are rather decent, I must say (to quote Martin Short's Ed Grimsley character). One cavil, however. The rear doors on the 300TD wagon are larger than the 300D sedans, so it is UNlikely the rear door panel you're selling will fit both types of W123 diesel. If I am correct in this(there's always a first time) your should probably revise your listing. 1983 300td 1985 300cd Come to think of it, it could be my misperception, I've never actually tried to cross them, thanks for bringing it to my attention, I'll investigate. I do know the rear doors and quarter glass are shaped differently... I have to update my disclaimer already too. I've also got a guy in Taiwan who missed Ships to United States 3 times and Shipping to United States Only twice! What fun! I want to allow non-us ebay bidders because so far two of them have US addresses I can send it to. Hope there's a feature for that... Vince _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
I care! :) Wish I'd have known you were selling parts a little earlier; I just bought a cache of 123 parts on craigslist, the only problem being that they're all the way down in Cape Goober... Vince, do you by chance have or know where I might find a set of French-spec jaune selectif fog light reflectors for Bosch 123 headlights? Tom Thanks Tom. What do you mean, not the apparent long-out-of-production holy grail of euro lenses do you? The closest I've ever come is a car that was originally equipped with them and lost in the Federale-ization. Did the parts come offered with a mis-restored coupe? I think I had a crack at those but wasn't in position to make the move. Going to Kemp next month? _ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline
[MBZ] Support Okie Benz (Was: Golly, I hope .......)
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Dont forget, your used parts purchases from Okiebenz are what funds this list. I wouldn't hesitate to aquire something I need from ya! Let me know if you offer something really tasty like euro lenses for front or rear of something. Still wish I could have seen your 250LWB. Cheers Vince _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117
Re: [MBZ] A hilarious ad for a 240D Automatic
Thanks Kevin, that's great. Where's it from, your own creative literary work? Can a keep a copy amonsgt my W123 archives? Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org _ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=10035url=%2fst.jsptm=ysearch=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6disc=yvers=743s=4056p=5117
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
I think he's blowing smoke. Ooops. Shoulda asked if I could light up first! Thanks for the tips and clarifications of what constitutes crack. My user name is club123d I figured you'd all spot me right away, and maybe I should say something first! (not to be egotistical but that you guys are keen on the goings on there.) Now I'm warning you, I put some prices too high, I realize that now and also there is a minimum at which it's not worth letting go for, I'm looking forward to offering lower starts and Buy It Nows, I'm sure I'll get a feel for it as I go. In just one week I'm amazed at the offline suggestions...I don't want to piss eBay off... Thanks again Regards Vince _ Dont miss your chance to WIN 10 hours of private jet travel from Microsoft® Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0540002499mrt/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
I'm not getting any insulting insinuation yet, but the critique is good for me I'm sure. Hell that's why I posted here. I know thre is much pride and discretion amongst this group, so it makes for a good reality check. It's my eleventh day, and the zero feedback is a bad indicator, but gotta start somewhere. (I've bought a few things to try to get the feedback up quicker, but haven't seen it yet.) Not all my parts are premium, sure, my goal is to at least provide informed discretion as to what one should really expect when it's in your hands. I guess I wanted to let it be known there is a man behind the eBayer trying to be considerate and not a half-baked extorting parts slinger...What's the saying? An informed consumer is our best customer? Well, maybe Up to 6 sales though and hopefully the feed back will be that I advertised correctly, shipped well, etc ...and give buyer confidence the part is for their car BEFORE they buy it. Believe me, the prices will be coming down, damn my sentiments! Going to be parting a Euro 240D 4 speed soon, hopefully (totalled, bent frame, hit by Sprinter @ 45mph) Thanks for your comments. Cheers Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. : Peppering this guy with all these negative comments is just rubbing salt in his wounds. You might want to gingerly refrain, even though he might be selling lemons. On the positive side his listings are well put together, have clear photos, and seem to provide all the info you would need. Allan -- 1983 300D 1966 230 _ Win a Zunemake MSN® your homepage for your chance to win! http://homepage.msn.com/zune?icid=hmetagline
Re: [MBZ] Golly, I hope I'm not on crack
Plus I REALLY wanted to write a post with both the words: Golly and Crack in it! Perhaps I'm the only one with such odd humour. Vince _ Play Flexicon: the crossword game that feeds your brain. PLAY now for FREE. http://zone.msn.com/en/flexicon/default.htm?icid=flexicon_hmtagline
Re: [MBZ] Big Brother is Nearby --- WAS---- W140 Vs W126
From: Jeff Zedic [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm, I still don't understand the 5th..why would an innocent person use it? So basically, using the 5th is a tacit admission of guilt, no? If I caused serious accident, I'd admit faultwhere's the problem? Jeff Zedic Toronto It's protection from zealous prosecutors with conviction quotas (self-imposed included) who know the letter of the law and can use it against a citizen's ignorant non-intent to break them. The less you say, the less ammo they can drum up against you to win in court. The other edge is it certainly CAN be considered by a jury or judge as an admission of guilt to not say anything. I'd think if you were honest and good intentioned without reasonable or predictaible negligence it would be the best thing for your case. But, it seems sadly today conventional wisdom from the best defense lawyers and proven results for the innocent and the guilty is to keep your mouth shut at all costs. Thus, everyone should get the option. Defending youself in court is considered stupid too. Getting a lawyer admits guilt, or at least rightfully founded fear of your true actions and the evidence they may bear OR innocence in the face of potential conviction. If the prosecuter knows all the laws and you come in with a speech, the ruling will simply go to the better presented legal case, and you'd likely lose. PS- If everyone admited fault, the term hit and run would not exist! Vince _ Get FREE company branded e-mail accounts and business Web site from Microsoft Office Live http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/mcrssaub0050001411mrt/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] AMERIKUNS
I'm sure the last thing a Canadian wants to be called is an American. (We're the imperialistic scum of the earth, don't you know?) Those in Mexico just aim for US citizenship, and everyone south of that has their own country name. American is just a leftover common term no one else wanted, so we got t because it's easier that saying Citizen of the United States of America There are no Asians, Africans or Europeans that designate sovereign citizenship status of a particualr country. (No wonder we're considered such arrogant bastards) Austrailia is the obvious exception, of course. _ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=WLMTAG
Re: [MBZ] crack
Buy it now = Zero depreciation. Too bad the AC is converted. Vince _ View Athletes Collections with Live Search http://sportmaps.live.com/index.html?source=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=MGAC01
Re: [MBZ] Playstation
Why not wait till next year when they are a couple hundred? All these game consoles drop 70% in cost and then become obsolete. Will you really have fond memories a decade from now from having a PS3 in 2006 vs 2007? Here I am defending nice MB's that cost $5k that some folks think is overspending- To lose money on new car depreciation is one thing, this is just insane. When status overides sense this bad, there is something wrong. I mean, free market is free market, I don't want to limit it. If anyone buys one of these at 1000% mark-up, it's sad they are so stupid with their money, and kinda sleazy to take advantage of them. I'm surprised any outcry took this long... It's a matter of priorities though, the most expensive car is supposed to be the $10,000,000 Bugatti Royale, a fractional bargain comapared to many, many fine paintings you can't drive, take folks for rides in, touch, tinker with, and I couldn't give half a rat's butt about. Any $1000+ article of clothing that doesn't keep you alive somehow or from decompression is pretty dumb in my book too. And what the hell is the deal with shiny rocks that cost tens and hundreds of thousands of dollars... (Sorry) Gee wiz. Vince You're serious, aren't you. Who the hell is going to pay 5k for a games console? Especially seeing I could buy a 3 for a lot less http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-On-hand-SONY-PS3-PLAYSTATION-3-60GB-RIDGE-RACER-7_W0QQitemZ230053261922QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com.au/New-On-hand-SONY-PS3-PLAYSTATION-3-60GB-RIDGE-RACER-7_W0QQitemZ230053261922QQihZ013QQcategoryZ11328QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem I suppose there are parents out there that think if their kid is not the first one on the block with a 3 they will be emotionally scared for life. I will in a couple of years time upgrade but not while it is still that expensive. Me thinks you better do your homework again, most 3's on ebay are selling for around US$2000 http://video-games.search.ebay.com/playstation-3_Systems_W0QQsacatZ62054 - Original Message - From: Tarek Elshenawy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com; 'Banned List' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 18, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Playstation It wasn't a stampede at all. It was pretty well organized, with a list and an hourly roll call. The Best Buy I've been camping at since Tuesday afternoon was guaranteed at least 26 total and ended up with 34; 25 of which were the premium 60GB editions. In retrospect, it was well worth enduring the pouring rain and extreme cold. Anyone seriously interested please contact me off-list. I have 3 60GB and 2 20GB, ready to ship. All of them include the unreleased Talladega Nights DVD in the new Blu-Ray format for true 1080p resolution. You can see for yourselves what these are currently going for on eBay. Keep in mind that most of the Playstation consoles currently on eBay aren't even actual consoles. Most people are simply selling their pre-sale tickets; 60% of which have no Playstation to back the ticket. All of the Gamespot participating stores (e.g. EB Games) which did pre-orders received a lot less than originally expected. Thus, many of the pre-sale tickets being sold on eBay for around $4,000 are simply rain checks for units being released well into 1st quarter 2007. $5,000 and it's yours. Tarek ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Fixing up the home? Live Search can help http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmemailtaglinenov06FORM=WLMTAG
Re: [MBZ] Playstation
Conclusion: Vince has not had much consort with the fairer gender. --R Nope. Married my 3rd girlfriend. (Been with her for 12 years) She didn't agree to it for the $600 custom diamond wedding ring I had made from the most reputable jewler in St. Louis. The 4 diamonds are pretty puny though! Cheers Vince _ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001
Re: [MBZ] Americans... Remember to VOTE NEXT TUESDAY
I actually hope a couple of my preferred candidates WILL do this...I don't like their pandering to popular philosphies for votes...sick of hearing they are for everything anyone is... Stand for something and stick to it dammit. It's also helpful to look at what they've done in the past, if this isn't the first time they've run for office. Regardless of what they promise during the campaign, they almost always fall back into the same old behavior once they're elected. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _ Try Search Survival Kits: Fix up your home and better handle your cash with Live Search! http://imagine-windowslive.com/search/kits/default.aspx?kit=improvelocale=en-USsource=hmtagline
Re: [MBZ] Low miles 83 CD available
Per Kaleb: When buying and selling cars, or anything for that matter, whoever names their price first, looses. Can't say I agree with that. Interesting philosophy. I'm sure it's true to a degree... I'm going to vote for whatever both partie agree on YOU personally may think it's insane to pay 5 figures for any W123, but truth is the market IS supporting those prices. It's like those late 60's muscle cars auctioning for 6 figures. Trends like this backfire, too. The late 80's were a time when vintage european went a bit ballistic, but went down 40-50% in the mid ninety's. You're $500,000 Gullwing became worth only $300,000. Then there's the guy who paid $15 mil for a Ferrari with a racing pedigree and sold it later for just 4 million. Now there comes a point where I HAVE to show some mercy, such as a pristine car I know of with a bad motor. It's WORTH $1000 to the right person, including me if I had the bucks, but I got a personal price of $500. Later, it turns out the guy had pay the dealer $650 to tell him the motor was shot, probably by the ignorant doofus mechanic (who probably shot ether into it rather than fix the problem) before them and some other related charges. Since the car had this hiccup, and someone ruined it, he had to haul it somewhere else, get the shaft price to GET NOTHING- and inccur all kinds of stupid expenses as a result over what started as a minor issue, at this poiont, my conscience says Go ahead and give the poor man $650 for it to negate the dealer bill, and allowing public access the car. But I found a $8, car for $5200 - so I paid in full. This guy even understood he could get another couple grand, but didn't want spend the time and hassle, and wanted to make it quick and easy as possible, so I obliged! I admit once I got a $100 offer for a mint set of euro bumpers, ends and euro tow hitch assembly. I DID scoff and feel insulted for about two minutes. I don't know why, it's another stupid human emotion. Back to a point, most of the time there is a named price in any ad, so the seller who listed automatically loses unless they omit the price? I tend to see an omitted price as overpriced or something, whatever it is, I tend to ignore such ads. Price is too important. This tends to be the sort who'll yell at you when you don't offer what he imagines but won't express! I ask for the best price they'll give. If they answer, I may counter if needed. If they say offer I get ballsy, 'cos that's fair game. If you need X- you need to say so- or don't get mad. Every time is slightly different, yesterday we were going for $12-1300 for a $1500 listing. When they answered offer to my lowest question, $1000 was offered and got it. That's what he paid and was happy to be even. His 50% markup obvously worked for him. Could I have worked him over more? I didn't think so, as a running 300SD with a solid body wasn't going to last long at that price, and I like quit and simple success anyway. Otherwise, it's like real-estate. Profit comes from the other's guys disadvantage, whatever that may be. Besides, you think THAT'S crazy? I'm sure you guys have seen this! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1978-Mercedes-Benz-240D-Sedan-Immaculate-Cond-1-Owner_W0QQitemZ250037957287QQihZ015QQcategoryZ6329QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Vince From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Low miles 83 CD available Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 08:41:58 -0500 _ Express yourself - download free Windows Live Messenger themes! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme002001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/themes/vibe/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=hmtagline
Re: [MBZ] Low miles 83 CD available
Uh no, price in the ad means nothing. If the seller has a car in there and the price is listed at say, 5000, and you call him up and he says he would take 3000, but you would have gone 4000, he lost. If it were reversed and you told the guy you would give him 4k and he would have taken 3, then you lost. See the picture? I can see that. So ideally, one starts high, the other low, and it should be felt out back and forth until the optimum price for both parties is reached. If the guy listed at 66% over what he's take, I probably wouldn't pursue it. It woudl appear too overpriced, and I suppose it my naiveity that would assume they would want something CLOSE to what they were asking. Did you look at that auction? Surely that wins the crack smoker of the week award! _ The next generation of Searchsay hello! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-usFORM=WLMTAG
Re: [MBZ] Hood pad life (or lack of)
I installed a new hood pad on my 126 about 3 years ago. It totally desintergrated. I think this is abnormal but can't figure out why. -- OEM or aftermarket? _ Try the new Live Search today! http://imagine-windowslive.com/minisites/searchlaunch/?locale=en-usFORM=WLMTAG
Re: [MBZ] W123 Car Show 9-9-2006
Helllo Striplin boys and girls! If you have a W123 or are just a fan around St. Louis this weekend, consider stopping in on our car show Saturday. It'll be a small, casual and enjoyable affair. If interested, PLEASE E-MAIL me: [EMAIL PROTECTED] My site is down for reconstruction right now, been really really busy with repair work, but we're still around and chugging away in the W123 universe. Regards, Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. _ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC. Get a free 90-day trial! http://www.windowsonecare.com/trial.aspx?sc_cid=msn_hotmail
Re: [MBZ] Club 123D spring rally recsheduled - 6-10-06
That would rock Tom. Thanks for the reply Kaleb. I was hopoing the Okie Q would have coordinated with another event down south of me by you guys but it's not even close, so it was just a pipe dream. Some of you guys might like to know I just published 14 little video clips on my website of last years Spring Rally event. All you need is the Quicktime plug-in. I spent virtually every waking moment for day preparing them, and I'm pretty stoked about them. Thought I'd share the news with the list, I hope you all don't find them too corny! Website: www.club123d.org Cheers! Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Club 123D spring rally recsheduled - 6-10-06 Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:36:48 -0500 andrew strasfogel wrote: Thalidomide babies were born w/o limbs so they should not be called amputees. I know. It is a quote from our own erstwhile Richarde Sexton (probably purloined from P.J. O'Rourke); the back seat in a 107 is good only for Thalidomide amputees. Tom ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Club 123D spring rally recsheduled - 6-10-06
Hi Folks! and Tom, There were too many schedule conflicts for yesterday, so all those signed up have agreed on a new nate, June 10th (saturday) I hope this frees you up Tom, and of course anyone with a W123 can join the festivites. What is the officail date and plan for this year's Okie-Q? What are you all doing the 30th of July? (Sunday) Cheers, Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. Next time, Vince. Sounds like a good time. Tom, 123 uber alles ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Shamless plug for Club 123D spring rally
From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] ...unfortunately, my grandmother will have my head on a platter if I don't go to Kansas City this weekend instead. Next time, Vince. Sounds like a good time. Tom, 123 uber alles Right on, I'm hoping it will run well. We keep floating between 9 and 10. It's good enough, this year's date turned out to be bad for several, despite how hard I tried to coordinate with people's plans. We had a few out-of-state folks thinking about it, but... There will be some good photos to entice folks next year on the website eventually. Hope to see you next year! (There may be the hard rally in the fall ;) Vince www.club123d.org _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Shamless plug for Club 123D spring rally
Thanks for your comments. The issues are a little seperate, however. The fact only a maybe a dozen or so come to these events as they are restricted to the one model, is indeed currently quaint charm. That's fine. If it grows into the national W123 attraction of my dreams, it'll be fun to watch it gain acceptance over the coming decades. I really don't mean to come off complaining about the return rate, but understand those are of only W123 owners who specifically requested the memebership info. Based on the positive correspondance, I thought it might be closer to 25%. Consideration is of course given that it is a free-per-simple-request promotion giveaway and not everyone will respond further. The feed back recieved has been very positive, if limited. Perhaps the literature is not extensive enough or too intense for folks based on their taste, I usually don't hear that, perhaps out of courtesy which I can respect, but a little criticism is good. Often I have it worked out and can explain why I do something a certain way. Regardless I will continue to build and enhance the membership however I am able to make it more attractive. One should WANT to join a club, or better yet, not miss out on itIt's a recreational back burner issue I understand. Some join years later, it'll be fine. The point of my Club is supreme enhancement of the model for the benefit of the owner. There is no way I would want to compete against the other solidly founded MB club instituions. I participate in some of those too. My tiny sect is merely a special haven for my obsession. The extreme focus gives me pleasure and I believe will allow me to encompass the car completely. With all the details I want to know about one type of car, learning much about other cars cannot be afforded. Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. From: George Gregory [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Shamless plug for Club 123D spring rally Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 09:36:10 -0500 Your reply level is low because you restrict events/membership to 123 cars. Many enthusiasts, who have owned 123 cars in the past but have moved on to newer cars, and still have a passion and knowledge for the 123, are excluded. Most clubs and organizations of this type try to get as many participants as possible INCLUDED which is the opposite of your policy of EXCLUDING. ___ GG St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -Original Message- From: V Layton Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 9:11 AM Hello folks snip The last membership promotion I mentioned was rather anti-climatic, about 5% return. I did get some requests from members of this list though, so thank you very much all who asked for info. snip Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 1981 300CD glow plug system
Not usually. 5 seconds seems long for a system on the fritz. Usually the light is the first sign. Why don't you think they work? Did you test them for resistance? Are they under 1 ohm? (the max you would want, about .6 new) Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you recieved this e-mail in error or would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. From: kevin kraly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED],[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 1981 300CD glow plug system Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 08:38:14 -0700 Hello listers! I'm still tinkering with this 1981 300CD, and it appears that the glow plugs aren't working. However, the glow plug light does come on and it goes out within 5 sec or so. Is it possible for the GP light to go on when the system isn't working? It has the newer style parallel plugs in it. Kevin in Hillsboro Oregon 1981 300CD 204K miles, Giesela ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] WHAT THE HELL?????
Why did I first think it was likely a sob story con also? Perfectly titled, Kaleb. I have no idea. Three car sentances and 4 tragic reason paragraphs the whole lsisting is the saddest or sickest e-bay description I've read yet. Wow. Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] WHAT THE HELL? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:36:09 -0400 this is really ugly. On 4/17/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez Kaleb, where does one start? I she hope this it not a scam. Some pepole are sick in the head. Hope this guy gets put away for long long time. Rory On 4/17/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-420SEL-must-sell-due-to-family-crisis_W0QQitemZ4632373274QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] WHAT THE HELL?????
Speaking of what the hell, what's with the insanity of the W123 on the ebay market? A 300TD with 79k was just bought outright for over $18k! That's like 55% of MSRP! It the enviro-frenzy getting that bad? Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] WHAT THE HELL? Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 08:44:53 -0500 Its a scam I think, Im pretty sure I remember this car a while back. V Layton wrote: Why did I first think it was likely a sob story con also? Perfectly titled, Kaleb. I have no idea. Three car sentances and 4 tragic reason paragraphs the whole lsisting is the saddest or sickest e-bay description I've read yet. Wow. Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] WHAT THE HELL? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 22:36:09 -0400 this is really ugly. On 4/17/06, Rory [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geez Kaleb, where does one start? I she hope this it not a scam. Some pepole are sick in the head. Hope this guy gets put away for long long time. Rory On 4/17/06, Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-420SEL-must-sell-due-to-family-crisis_W0QQitemZ4632373274QQcategoryZ6331QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari 1992 300D 2.5T - 286Kmi. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 90 420SEL, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 190D 2.2, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 72 250C, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Where can a guy find a hex key?
If it has the proper bolts, it IS a 10mm. Try to find a 7mm sometime! I bought the Zone 12, 14, 17mm set just for the blasted 14mm (rear diff, manual trans plug) Personally, I think it's easier to lower the trans mount to access the starter bolts better, at least on a 300, a 240 gives you more room Good Luck Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. From: Zoltan Finks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Where can a guy find a hex key? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 12:21:49 -0500 This is nuts. All I need is one hex key to change out my starter (83 240D) and all sets that I can find in stores only go up to 10mm. We don't have Harbor Freight around here, but we have Northern Tool. No luck. Same deal at Sears. And they all come in sets, not individual. Do I have to chase down a tool truck and pull it over? Is it a 13 mm? Brian 83 240D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Where can a guy find a hex key?
I'd agree unecessary, in fact I haven't HAD to do that yet since I thought of it! I have done that to access the modulator on the turbos, it's just s easy to lower it while you work, especially when one doesn't have a lift! (Yes, I support it with a jack, to avoid undue stress on things) I've used a 10mm hex socket and turned it with a cresent as well, if you can imagine that. That looks like prettty sweet site, thanks, I hadn't seen that one yet...I saved it. (Did your member kit arrive ok, Mathieu?) Cheers, All! Pulling the trans cross-member does simplify things a bit, but is completely unnecessary. I use a tool very similar to this when RRing starters. It makes life incredibly easier: http://www.samstagsales.com/mercedes.htm#starter%20tools. Mathieu www.oldworldauto.com Vince Club 123D President http://www.club123d.org If you would like stop recieving e-mails from this address, please reply to this message saying so, and you will be removed from our address book. _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] How I found this Group
I didn't. You guys found me! Vince _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh
No, but I love it! That engine work is way out of my league, but I know enough that what I'm looking at poses a million questions. South Lindbergh? OMG I remember doing that in high school a couple times! Don't think we got the full benefit of it though, just seemed like a big traffic jam in a parking lot to me, did witness a goober 5 mph wreck there once though. I live sooo close to there, cut through all the time. I don't think they do that anymore, especially since they took the theater out. But you're right. Hell, I'd love to blow some minds at a national MBCA autocross event! Because smoking brand new AMGs with a 21+ year old diesel staion wagon would be so very, very wrong! If you see the latest MB Classic mag, there's a photo of an Italian at MB Classic days held in Salzburg who blew some minds with his stock 240TD, simply by driving with his huge Italian cahonies. I saw some pretty gutsy driving when I was in Rome. Thanks for the memory flashback! Vince From: tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] AMG diesel don't laugh Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 08:54:26 -0600 V Layton wrote: This may put me in the criminal category but I can't wait to simulate a AMG to a W123 diesel. Tastefully, of course. They did merely pretty some up, so it's not a total poser move. Diesel greatness with a little extra sporty style? Best of both worlds! Now you're talking! Vince, have you seen this? http://www.kolumbus.fi/valtonen.motorsport/index.htm That would be just the ticket for hunting Hondas and Mustangs on South Lindbergh on Saturday nights. ;) Tom ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] 240 d
Sure, for a price. Get all the body and interior you can, and don't worry too much about the mechanical, all can be serviced. Good Luck Vince From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 240 d Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2006 20:33:27 EST Hey everyone , you'll quickly realize what a neophyte i am ( Naive ? ) but here it goes i have always wanted a MBZ 240 D , in a 123 body style and it looks like this might be the year to find one ! i have'nt got a clue of what i should be looking for , i know what i want a 82 -83 240 D in yellow w/ sunroof and complimentary interior in pristine condition with as low a miles as possibly , is this doable ? any help on what i should be boning up on ? re books , manuals , tech notes ? and what tell tale signs on the actual vehicle i should look for any and all information welcomed Thanx . Joe Gomez . Boise Idaho ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] 240D for sale in Missouri
Where in MO? I may have a prospect or two... [EMAIL PROTECTED] Vince From: Brian Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] 240D for sale in Missouri Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 18:05:16 -0600 I have reluctantly decided it is time for my 'ol faithful 82 240D to go to a new home. If anyone is interested contact me privately on email for details or to make offer. If I can't sell it to someone on the list it will go as a trade, and who knows who will end up trashing it from there! Brian '82 240D 189,XXX With working A/C! ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Well the POOS 250 LWB is gone
Bummer. Vince From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Banned List [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Well the POOS 250 LWB is gone Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2006 18:09:04 -0600 Took a ride over to Shuler autohaus today in Fayetteville because after seeing the LWB on ebay they were highly interested. Just stuck it on ebay to see what it would do, was not really trying to sell it. So at first I was looking at a 87 300SDL to take in on partial trade for it but it reminded me too much of the famous POS SDL. Same color and everything. Ran great and drove great though. Just the body was too beat up and the paint was crap. He also had a 91 350SD over there. I as scared of the engine. Really scared because it had a bad head and they replaced it with a rebuilt #14. Seems to be a recipe for disaster. Ended up getting all my cash back I had into the thing PLUS a 91 420SEL. Was not really in the market for a 420SEL but it seemed more pratical of a vehicle to have around than the LWB. Its a really nice car, interior is perfect. Just has 1 small spot of fading on the roof. Needs shocks but other than that, runs great. Not as powerful as a 560 or course but plenty powerful enough. Im sure I will miss the LWB but I never really drove it much, it just sat around. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 91 420SEL 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Some ideas for your 123's
ME? Is there another Vince? Too late, I saw it! I also couldn't resist the 3-wheel motion link either, thanks. I'd thought I'd seen gawdy (or is it gaudi) before, you've opened my eyes! Vince (who likes custom, within reason) From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Some ideas for your 123's Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:30:23 +1030 Don't look Vince:-) http://32.freebb.com/w123universe/w123universe-article13.html Hendrik who has just a little bit more taste than that ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD
Perhaps he means it's fast enough to outrun the Reaper on his skateboard? From: Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:56:37 -0700 I'm still trying to figure out what a deathbeater is...seller mentions it in response to a question. Bob Rentfro - Original Message - From: Donald Snook [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 11:42 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Nice 300CD Wow! That is a nice one. The reserve is already met at $2125? It only has 174,000. Unless the pictures are really misleading I would have thought this car would go over $4-5K. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4606029223 sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1 -- Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] I know you want this
From: Ed Booher [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Knowledge is power... Power Corrupts. Study hard... Be Evil. This line kills me! Very good, is it yours? Vince _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] W123 fans and Club 123D interested parties:
Greetings W123 fans and Club 123D interested parties: This is essentially an advertisement for USA's only-known (so far) full-fledged automobile club EXCLUSIVELY for W123 chassis cars known as Club 123D It's posted in the spirit of general W123 chassis enthusiast interest, and very pertinant to W123 interest abroad in regards to proven efforts of serious W123 enthusiasm and activity in our little corner of the world. This is being stated clearly upfront in effort to avoid any offense. The following also contains references to check the status of previous responses from others met on the internet. Please understand the net is a vital tool for contacting far and few between auto enthusiasts on a small budget. Thank you, and please continue reading as desired. United States Residents: I haven't been on the net much lately, I've been trying to exercise discipline from the addictive temptation in effort to finally produce the overdue Club 123D newsletter. Now I can finally declare it has been finished, and completely ready to go! To speed things up, I resigned to write a shorter, 4 page letter. It inevitably became 6 anyway. Two pages are a special essay that provides an abridged background on how and why I became so hung up on the W123 chassis to the point Club 123D was started. The other 4 pages, upon review, I was very unsatisfied with, so I threw it all out and started over. Now the letter is a more proper issue with less reiteration, and the essay will serve as an insert only to be included with new initiating membership application kits. This newsletter is the 7th produced to date. Now that I'm satisfied with the latest production, the mailings will begin this week! Members' Club Logo decals will be included! This major chore finished, I'm announcing the limited continuation of the membership promotions planned to end with 2005. The free one year trial new memberships for MO and IL residents are being extended until February 10, 2006. (A $50 value) To show greatest appreciation for the 5 national (all the other 48 US states) members who joined in 2005, all 5 memberships (the ONLY membership revenue collected so far) are being extended for 2006 renewal at no charge, and will remain active until the anniversary date of 2007. Thank you all very much for hanging in there with us though this developing time. To offer a fair incentive to new national members we hope to gain, all returned applications (with member fee) will receive a second year of membership at no charge as well. To get in on the final action of this offer: We handle these matters in the old-fashioned, traditional way. To join our club and get on our exclusive physical mailing list as a registered Club 123D member you must send your name, model, and a physical mailing address in the USA we can send your materials to. Enclosed will be the latest newsletter, the essay, an application, a copy of the most recent published Club 123D policy and bylaws, an issue of our odd limited production art, and a SASE for ultimate convience. The application is effectively formulated for ease with highlights for required fields, yet allows the inclusion of finer details of your car you can include in your registry record as you desire. All offer-qualifying membership applications and fees must be postmarked no later than Friday, February 10, 2006. This leaves about 3 weeks, plenty of time for even snail-mail to make it to you and back. Especially since all you would need to do is review the materials, fill out a few things about you and your car, enclose the application and your check, money order, bank draft or the like in the convienent SASE, and toss in mailbox! All personal information is kept under strict control, as demonstrated in the lists below. (Actually this is as about public as we've ever been) Here is a list of all pending membership requests we have on file, scheduled to be mailed out THIS WEEK. Identified by only First name, last initial, city and state. If you made a request yet are not on this list, it may have been lost amongst the various e-mail boxes and private message boxes of the various forums I participate in . All efforts are made to reply to all emails and membership kit requests and we intend to ignore no one. If for some reason you have been left out, please let me know. Bill G Norwak, OH Bob R Litchfield, AZ Edward D San Antonio, TX Eric R Maplewood, MO J. Michael S Madison, Indiana Joel B New Salem, ND Keith W Sedro-Woolley, WA Len N Port Republic, VA Mario P Palo Alto, CA Mathieu Lawrenceville, GA Mike S Boise, ID Mustapha S Cape Girardeau, MO Nathan C Sacramento, CA Rich S El Segundo, CA Tony S Sedalia, MO Below is a list of previous membership requesters on file that have been accomodated. If for some reason you are not on this list either, or ARE on the list and have not received the materials sent to you, please contact us with your
Re: [MBZ] eBay crack seller
It's obvious this is the sort of seller/saleman who would say anything to sell it, no trust can be placed in any statement of quality or history. The picture does the car far more credit, as well as a remotely knowledgeable inspection. Sorry, but if you can't even bother to look at the back of the friggin' car to identify the model properly, what worth is your word on anything else? E-Bay is a mere amplifier of human nature, good and bad, but this display of a transaction sickens (and frustrates) heart-felt enthusiast of such cars. Vince From: andrew strasfogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] eBay crack seller Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 12:24:46 -0500 Huh? On 1/16/06, Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll say - for one thing, the fuel tank is in the wrong place ... On 1/16/06, Luther Gulseth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, this is an interesting looking TD.. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=4605064946sspagename=ADME%3AB%3ASS%3AUS%3A1 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
[MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago but I thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway. I've been seeking this sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not exactly helped cure my desires for more W123 history! Scroll down to free and wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing. It's totally worth a look, and it's in German. http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html Vince Club 123D President Aspiring W123 historian _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
Someone posted the link in another forum, I don't know how he found it, but I'm pleased he did, too much of stuff like this is lost or buried. I bought my W123 (200D) out of need, chose it for it's charm, grew to love it's asthetics, appreciated it's servicability and durability, respected it's place and purpose, and now more concerned with being specially and intensely involved in it's appreciation, celebration and preservation than their belittlible performance. Regards, Vince From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:28:22 -0700 Vince, Very cool video. Haven't watched the whole thing yet, but definitely will. I wonder if there is one of these for the 240D. I know they would look pretty silly touting any type of speed, but still... How did you find this particular video? Brian 83 240D From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:03:37 +1030 It's also 27.9mb big. I am a bit disappointed in the fuel consumption figures, especially given that my 230E is round about 12.5l/100k's and has a lot more power. Then given the fact that diesel is usally about 10cents dearer than petrol the 300D and 230E cost about the same to run. Hendrik - Original Message - From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 5:56 PM Subject: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago but I thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway. I've been seeking this sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not exactly helped cure my desires for more W123 history! Scroll down to free and wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing. It's totally worth a look, and it's in German. http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html Vince Club 123D President Aspiring W123 historian _ Don't just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.16/225 - Release Date: 9/01/2006 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV
The steering thing I didn't notice, I've only watched it 6 times or so so far- will have to look again- (damn) I was comforted that it didn't start too cleanly in the -20 degree C garage W123's with the udated paraell plugs (in proper spec) fire up much much sharper as low as 10 degrees F, not as cold, I know but it was nice to see that '77 slowly spin to life as it was shown to be perfectly natural. I tried to learn a bit of German (but got lazy) and know a few words, this may help me a bit but if you watch it a few times, you can pick up more and more of the terms and specs they are reffering to. This guy speaks clear and slow, which helps too. That model list shows HP and 0-100kmh times, and they list several mgp ratings (as total fuel consumption in liters per 100 kilometers- which takes some calculating!) but I thik the test overal yielded 12.1 or 12.9 liters used for 100km of distance I had a 200D, it does make the 240 seem spry! Notice there was also a 220D- they kept that displacement in the W123 because is was so popular in the W115 series, but only about 26k were made up to '79 because this market mentality only went so far after all the other, more powerful 240's and 300's had been proven, and the 2nd tier option of 4 and eventually 5 diesel powerplants just fell by the wayside. 4 levels of power within 25 HP! I guess part of what I think is so cool about the way MB did things then was the model evolution type of production, like the 911, few face-lifts, intense breeding of refinement from within, verses ALL NEW!! types of marketing prduction common amongst the domestics. I think the old German marques are trending this way increasingly. Vince From: Brian Chase [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:50:44 -0700 I wish I could know what they are displaying in terms of those statistics - some seem to be acceleration, then later fuel mileage? I know some of you auto-geeks will fill us in. Whatever all the numbers mean, they are pointing out a good, better, better, best progression from the 200 to the 220 to the 240 to the 300. Man, cool to finally see that the 240 is better than something. Actually, most revelatory in the video, to me, is seeing that that brand new car had play in the steering column - both when he gets in the car in that cold garage, and when driving. Brian From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rare 300D (W123) test film from 1976 German TV Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:29:14 -0600 neat. Too bad I cant understand german. V Layton wrote: This seems to be new on the net, sorry if you've all seen it ages ago but I thought it was so cool I had to speak up anyway. I've been seeking this sort of thing for years, while this was very satisfying, it has not exactly helped cure my desires for more W123 history! Scroll down to free and wait for a promt with an on-screen human verificaton code type thing. It's totally worth a look, and it's in German. http://rapidshare.de/files/10393112/test_300d.wmv.html Vince Club 123D President Aspiring W123 historian _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search
[MBZ] Sweet little French film
You all may have seen this ages ago, so sorry if this is redundant, but I found it recently and think it's totally bitchin' It's a Ferrari-cam screaming through Paris - big file - advise avoiding if you are still on dial-up http://www.glumbert.com/media/rendezvous.html _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine
I agree. I get mine the same way, too. I'm about to get my third one, the first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE ever made- so obviously I was pretty pleased. I would like to get the whole back collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars. It was started in 2002, I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical significance one day. They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak to it, $22 is pretty good. Besides, imagine what a limited specialty market it caters to, I'm sure it's not cheap to produce a mag of that caliber. If you like to read about some of the pinacles of historic MB preservation, I highly recommend it. Vince Club 123D President www.club123d.org sponsor of USA's only W123 exclusive driving events and shows From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2006 18:02:18 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from server5.arterytc5.net ([67.18.66.132]) by bay0-mc1-f6.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:03:13 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server5.arterytc5.net)by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52)id 1Eue7h-00022S-IK; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:02:21 + Received: from zproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.162.200])by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Eue7f-00022M-VWfor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 23:02:20 + Received: by zproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so2977636nzhfor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.249.15 with SMTP id b15mr1669177qbs;Thu, 05 Jan 2006 15:02:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.249.4 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jan 2006 15:02:18 -0800 (PST) X-Message-Info: vGzX0e+ktu6JPL7fAZOl7c/5CH8ve2fmEYTQ7KS3E9c= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com;h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references;b=S+6IKxVDi9xR8FZnREf2OWsChX9IgZr2iliZwRU4GqYY/SM83PkFK8+FVaU1aR/D4VJV57vOQFZHHdYACSzAHd6HcvNL+pN8NR2S0K1pWfM96X9kDqKb2sKLLohNiXfbmBYrPKdYMGHj2qqZ0dAgNOiylakYVFmLhH8Y1awTT1s= References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server5.arterytc5.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - striplin.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Jan 2006 23:03:13.0571 (UTC) FILETIME=[34962F30:01C6124C] I subscribe, but I subscribe through MB USA and get it for $22/year. 1-800-FOR-MERCEDES, select option 4, then option 2, then subscribe by talking to a nice lady. 4 issues per year, and they're spectacular. On 1/5/06, Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on pages 92-93 of the 2004 Classic Collection catalog, there is an advertisement for the above mentioned magazine. two editions - German or English. Cost is 22 Euro PLUS postage/year (quite high, IMO). Does anyone subscribe? Has anyone subscribed in the past or have any info on it's worth? No website, but there is an e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks! FYI, mag in the ad has a 220D heckflosse on the cover - cool. Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor:
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine
Actually I read in issue #10 that it was unusual to have the first cars, as they do with the 280CE, as they were usually crash tested, but the 1st 280CE survived and surfaced not that long ago, neat story behind it Vince From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 16:47:07 +1030 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from server5.arterytc5.net ([67.18.66.132]) by bay0-mc10-f10.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.211); Thu, 5 Jan 2006 22:17:36 -0800 Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=server5.arterytc5.net)by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52)id 1Eukuj-L6-ID; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 06:17:25 + Received: from customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony7.iinet.net.au ([203.59.1.128])by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1Eukug-Kt-FOfor [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 06:17:22 + Received: from 203-173-47-220.dyn.iinet.net.au (HELO yourwxrsc38umf)([203.173.47.220])by customer-domains.icp-qv1-irony7.iinet.net.au with SMTP;06 Jan 2006 14:17:15 +0800 X-Message-Info: vGzX0e+ktu6/KM51BbhJ6Q/t1l1okiIi6YsW3Idrhns= X-BrightmailFiltered: true X-Brightmail-Tracker: AA== References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net List-Unsubscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Archive: http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net List-Post: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Help: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] List-Subscribe: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Errors-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - server5.arterytc5.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - hotmail.com X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - striplin.net X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Return-Path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-OriginalArrivalTime: 06 Jan 2006 06:17:36.0446 (UTC) FILETIME=[E3454DE0:01C61288] That is the 280CE in the Mercedes Classic Centre at Fellbach? Apparently they keep the first and last example of every model. There are some nice and historic machines there. https://www.cms.daimlerchrysler.com/emb_classic/0,,0-195-78866-1-200655-1-0-0-0-0-0-3490-78641-0-0-0-0-0-0-0,00.html Hendrik - Original Message - From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Benz Classic Magazine I agree. I get mine the same way, too. I'm about to get my third one, the first I got was issue #10- that feautred the very last W123 280CE ever made- so obviously I was pretty pleased. I would like to get the whole back collection, it think it's $49, maybe $55 dollars. It was started in 2002, I'm guessing no matter what it will have historical significance one day. They sell for 6 euros, and since the buck is weak to it, $22 is pretty good. Besides, imagine what a limited specialty market it caters to, I'm sure it's not cheap to produce a mag of that caliber. If you like to read about some of the pinacles of historic MB preservation, I highly recommend it. Vince Club 123D President www.club123d.org sponsor of USA's only W123 exclusive driving events and shows ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror
Don't know, weird symptom, isn't it? Vince From: Christopher McCann [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] glue oozing mirror Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 06:13:03 -0800 (PST) I'm the subject line describes this common problem adequately. Every winter, I scrape it off (too gooey in the summer). QUESTION: Would a new mirror start doing the same oozing right away or would it take, oh, tne years before it started oozing? That would be nice. Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, Rose -1987 300TD, 151K, Rotkäppchen -1985 300SD, 210K, Wulf -1976 240D, ?K, AKP-Wagen (Alternativen Kraftstoffs Prüfenlastwagen) -1972 Jacobsen 21 Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38 deck, Snowcaster, One Banger - Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement
Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop
First, let me say the 1985s are the most complicated and vacuum (emmssion) control laden of all the W123 diesels, and I don't know precisely how everything works exactly, but- The photo (63) -the red circeld bit should have a Y that on one end has the small black tube that leads into the firewall, and one going the other way to join other vac lines that travel to the other ide of the motor, this is all for system vacuum venting. There should not tbe two small black lines going into the firewall, (usually anyway, up to 1984 models I'm sure) one of the small black lines should go to the transmission modulator. It's possible you pulled that too, thus the rough shifting. The large, hard plastic fixed line from the vac pump to the booster is the main supply for all the car's needed system vacuum, the most important being the brake booster. All other vacuum taps off this. The 1985 turbos have three additional vacuum system controls (and minus 2 others) not found on the pre-'85s. (US turbos) The transmission modulator line should come off the blue vacuum valve control mounted by the driver hood hinge compartment. How is the brown wire to the shuf-off valve I mentioned? Sounds like you really need a hand vac pump to check for vacuum pump operation (in case of coincidental failure) fuel shut-off valve operation, and vacuum modulator pressure retention. There really should be something obviously unplugged, unless you plugged up the lines wrong or the pump failed, since you now have two major symptoms. On e can also check the ignition vac control operation from supply to fuel shut-off valve by applying the hand tester to the brown supply line off the main line (that goes into the firewall) and checking the operation with the key in both positions. (This avoids having to pull the kick panel) To isolate the fuel shut off valve itself, simply hook your pump into that and test, which it's behavoir will indicate how sealed it is. I hope that clairfies, there isn't much else I can say without messing around with the car myself. Vince www.club123d.org From: Jason Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:23:24 -0600 So there are 2 lines that go into the cabin? A small black line http://www.pictureblogger.com/Mercedes/dscn0982 and this small black line is supposed to attach to that white thing on the IP? And a larger black line that does the same thing but connects to a juction where several lines attache? Sorry, Just want to be sure. And if this is the case... why won't my car turn off? Another thing I noticed at the same time was the trany is now shifting really hard. It never did this This s an 85 123 with 80K miles Jason Jim Cathey wrote: So we know what the larger black line is (clean air intake) but what is the smaller black line? Vent line. Bleeds off vacuum by sucking clean(er) cabin air. Not your problem, in other words. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop
This is kind of dumb, I wrote out this response earlier this afternon and then I forgot about it when a new member (41!) came over for his appointment, and he stayed awhile and and we talked shop for about 4 hours and it was just cooking here in my email unposted, which is why it looks hopelessy late and pointless. Sorry. Note to self: Hit send Vince From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 03:32:13 + First, let me say the 1985s are the most complicated and vacuum (emmssion) control laden of all the W123 diesels, and I don't know precisely how everything works exactly, but- The photo (63) -the red circeld bit should have a Y that on one end has the small black tube that leads into the firewall, and one going the other way to join other vac lines that travel to the other ide of the motor, this is all for system vacuum venting. There should not tbe two small black lines going into the firewall, (usually anyway, up to 1984 models I'm sure) one of the small black lines should go to the transmission modulator. It's possible you pulled that too, thus the rough shifting. The large, hard plastic fixed line from the vac pump to the booster is the main supply for all the car's needed system vacuum, the most important being the brake booster. All other vacuum taps off this. The 1985 turbos have three additional vacuum system controls (and minus 2 others) not found on the pre-'85s. (US turbos) The transmission modulator line should come off the blue vacuum valve control mounted by the driver hood hinge compartment. How is the brown wire to the shuf-off valve I mentioned? Sounds like you really need a hand vac pump to check for vacuum pump operation (in case of coincidental failure) fuel shut-off valve operation, and vacuum modulator pressure retention. There really should be something obviously unplugged, unless you plugged up the lines wrong or the pump failed, since you now have two major symptoms. On e can also check the ignition vac control operation from supply to fuel shut-off valve by applying the hand tester to the brown supply line off the main line (that goes into the firewall) and checking the operation with the key in both positions. (This avoids having to pull the kick panel) To isolate the fuel shut off valve itself, simply hook your pump into that and test, which it's behavoir will indicate how sealed it is. I hope that clairfies, there isn't much else I can say without messing around with the car myself. Vince www.club123d.org From: Jason Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 16:23:24 -0600 So there are 2 lines that go into the cabin? A small black line http://www.pictureblogger.com/Mercedes/dscn0982 and this small black line is supposed to attach to that white thing on the IP? And a larger black line that does the same thing but connects to a juction where several lines attache? Sorry, Just want to be sure. And if this is the case... why won't my car turn off? Another thing I noticed at the same time was the trany is now shifting really hard. It never did this This s an 85 123 with 80K miles Jason Jim Cathey wrote: So we know what the larger black line is (clean air intake) but what is the smaller black line? Vent line. Bleeds off vacuum by sucking clean(er) cabin air. Not your problem, in other words. -- Jim ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info
No, but will TRY to download it and see it (computer allowing) when I get back from the store tonight. I thought the Finns wern't allowed to mod thier cars due to regulations. This is based on a segment of video (I am reviewing right as I type) of a Finnish immigrant named Antti Rahko, who retired in America to be allowed to mod his RV's. OK they just said verbatum In Finland most of the things are prohibited with cars, rebuilding cars, and where in the States most of the things are legal and not prohibited. (He was a mechanical engineer, who doesn't speak English) It's an interesting 5 minute segment about his Custom RV (complete with full working sauna trailer) and his monster crazy 300TDt, which is a tri-axle franken marvel made from two bodies, I'm sure someone had seen it. Thanks for the tip. I think Finland has a W123 club... From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 22:55:25 -0500 Vince, have you seen what those crazy Finns do to 123s? For instance, if you take time to download this video, you will see one with an OM606 (3.0L 24V diesel) lay an incredible amount of rubber down before the driver (rehtijii) figured out he couldn't just floor it from a standing start. He did a 13.9 1/4 mile with less wheelspin on his next run. http://students.tukkk.fi/tuukka.simonen/Mersuvideot/quarter_mile_Finland_May_2005.wmv ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Transm. Modulator
According to data I have, the green modulator was used in the 300SD and SDL cars with the 617 and 603 motors, and the red was fitted to W126 with the 350SDL (1989-1991) OM603 motor, so perhaps the trans isn't ORIGINALLY from a 1984? Little help, but this is what I understand is the case with the W126 diesels. Vince (who claims to know several more W123 facts than W126 facts) From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transm. Modulator Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 08:21:22 -0600 Take that back. I clicked on the wrong button (Send instead of Discard). My '82 300SD has the 722.3xx and green modulator. I bought a 722.3xx tranny out of an '84 300SD and it has the red modulator. On 1/2/06, Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Something strange here. My '82 SD has a 722.2xx in it but is turbo charged. Modulator is green. _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info
Europe tends to have higher regs and more taxes for older cars, which makes me glad to be a car enthusiast guy here. Cool video, Finns having fun definately. I think it's neat there is an apparent USA car enthusiasm group, odd to realize Chevys and such are exoctic to them, but very cool. Did I really see that W201 diesel beat that Vette? THAT'S somethin'! A W123 in motion is always a sweet sight to me, but seeing one kick out on dry pavement with that kind of power is admittedly extra delicious! Thanks again for pointing that out to me. Vince From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 02:59:28 -0500 V Layton wrote: No, but will TRY to download it and see it (computer allowing) when I get back from the store tonight. I thought the Finns wern't allowed to mod thier cars due to regulations. I always thought they could not install an engine with a higher (from the factory) power rating. (but that can't be right, I've seen 200d with OM606 under the hood, that's about double the facrory power) Maybe nobody pays attention to diesel swaps yet? I'm thinking that once an engine is allowed in a car, what the government doesn't know can't hurt the hot-rodder. Just turn the externally adjustable full load screw down to stock when you take it in for inspection. BTW, I should have warned you the video is 40mb. Plan on 2-4 hour download if you are on dial-up. ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Transm. Modulator
The original modulators from early 772.3 transmissions were rather crude and were revised in the mid/late 80s to smooth out the rather harsh shifting (especially when cold). The color was changed. There may have been other revisions as well. I have seen a listing of the various modulators and their color codes somewhere, but I can't find it now. Marshall -- If and when you do, I'd really like to see/have that information. Thank you. PS- I got my steering box set screw for locking the steering box during an alignment, but can't figure how to use the thing on W123 power steering boxes. I can only find one lone bolt possibility on the underside, but haven't messed with it as I didn't feel like taking an unecessary ATF bath- Is this the bolt I remove to use the set screw, or where and how? I of course get great results with just the spreader bar, but I'm trying to pursue the top quality alignment. The shop discs cite the section on front wheel angle alignment, but those files are missing from the disc (and not the only ones, rather annoying) Anyone have that data, or is this something Ill have use Star Tex info for? Would they even have the info? I guess I'll have to invest in a day's access... Thanks- very carefully and intentionally signed... Vince From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Transm. Modulator Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:38:01 -0500 Marshall Booth (who doesn't respond to unsigned questions) der Dieseling Doktor [EMAIL PROTECTED] '87 300TD 182Kmi, '84 190D 2.2 229Kmi, '85 190D 2.0 161Kmi, '87 190D 2.5 turbo 237kmi ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info
A very good observation, although a sickening thought! Perhaps the Nigerian W123 company could set up an honest business utilizing that! Surely someone is clever enough to market that stuff, especailly euro lenses, bumpers and special body parts like front air dams and stuff. I guess that's what seperates the car collector from regular uncaring for car people... I wish I had money, I'd take trips to the euro pick and pulls if I could! (I'd need to hire ship for all the decent restorable W123 orphans too!) Oh what? Hey, I wasn't day-dreaming Vince From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:25:33 -0600 can you imagine all the cool euro parts that are just thrown away over there all the time. There is probably some money in shipping container loads of cars/parts over here for resale. Hans Neureiter wrote: Think about this. In Germany there are no Junkyards. Older cars that do not pass the inspection (TUeV), which includes body, suspension, oil leaks and emissions, and can not repaired at reasonable cost are being scrapped, I mean shredded, and the owner pays a fee. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop
From: redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2006 10:40:18 -0800 I am liking having Vince here. He is full of information that is good to know and has almost no bearing on Gump. So really esoteric for my uses Aw shucks, guys, thanks for the two nice comments in one thread (You too, LT Don) This list has already benefitted me too- the internet is quite an asset to keeping old, off-beat cars alive, for sure! We are in a new age, I hope it all will continue to increase in benefit for automobile preservation Vince _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] used tranny question
Best used trans story I have is the $150 parts car I got for that price BECAUSE of the bad transmission. With a new hollow fluid screw, some related gaskets, and the two MISSING housing bolts and FLUID- I got it to work pretty good. In fact, I sold it to a member for $100 and he had me install it in his car OVER 67,000 miles ago and it still works fine! What a deal! (for him and me!) Vince From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] used tranny question Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 12:55:34 -0600 With trannies, when I get a car in that I have been able to drive and verify, then I can call the tranny good for future use. IF not, its sort of a risk. Tom Hargrave wrote: I agree with Kaleb. The clutches are wear items and just like brake pads and you can't tell their condition until the last bit of friction material breaks through and you start slipping. Because of this, I've never bought a used transmission - I've always had then rebuilt. But I also drive 50,000 + miles / year and I rally can't take a change on a used transmission. Engines are another story. You can tell a lot with a wet / dry compression test. Thanks, Tom Hargrave 256-656-1924 www.kegkits.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, January 02, 2006 12:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] used tranny question what do you mean? Is there any way to tell if its good short of installing it? No. Not unless you just go ahead and tear it down and inspect the clutches etc. Hans Neureiter wrote: I am going to pick my newly aquired $ 300 tranny up. Is there something I should know to look for? -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Manny trans
Yes, it I'm sure it's MB, it has the star on it, and the numbers seem to be in the MB part no. configuration. Here's some I got: 186 264 06 01 (on main casing) along with- 222 66 which appears to be tacked on on the part with the levers: 111 260 13 14 another, very hard to read number that's probably not transcribed exactly, but may offer a clue... 319 201 071 Now, 186 and 111 were Chassis series numbers for some vintage MB's, (111 + as in a 220s from the 60's and 186 was for 50's 300's) Perhaps for an old colum shift unit? This thing could be real valuable for the right guy, the person who gave it to me said he used on a 240D motor, but who knows? it could have been for a 220D it's a good mystery to me, I'm really curious now, I guess I shoulda E bayed it Vince And now that I've seen it, I must say that's the wierdest transmission I've ever seen. All of the Mercedes manual transmissions I've seen have the shift levers on the side. Vince, are you sure it's a Mercedes transmission? If so, what's the part number? Even if it is, Clay, I can categorically state that it will NOT work in Gump! _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop
The little black vac line that goes into the fire wall is a vacuum system relief vent line, which connects to nothing- it goes into the fire wall to suck in the cleaner cabin air rather than the engine bay air- The white plastic valve on the IP pump is responsible for the vacuum venting action, below it on the backside of the IP pump is the metal fuel shut off valve, which is fed from the brown wire from the ignition switch- check that... There IS a lot of stuff in the way of the oil filter housing- no wonder you popped something! Regards, good luck, Vince Club 123D President www.club123d.org From: Jason Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] vacume leak/no engine stop Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:10:02 -0600 Oh sorry man... I forgot that part and sorry about my grammer... I was in a rush... Here are some pictures http://www.pictureblogger.com/Mercedes?page=5 http://www.pictureblogger.com/Mercedes/lines1 http://www.pictureblogger.com/Mercedes/line2 It is an 85 300D (123) Craig McCluskey wrote: On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:33:09 -0600 Jason Greene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'm sorta new to the list.. Welcome! I have a vacuum leak... I think. My engine will not turn off. That's a possibility, or mis-routed vacuum lines. I can take picture if that will help... Sure would. As would knowing what kind of car you're working on. Craig --- Craig McCluskey Present: 1982 240D/3.0 (Euro 1984 617.912 engine, 4-speed) 224 kmi Past: 1964 190Dc 1972 220D/8 1972 220/8 1987 190E/2.3 /\ \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN Friends don't send friends X AGAINST HTML MAIL HTML email. / \ AND POSTINGS http://www.fred.net/tds/longrange.html http://pruffle.mit.edu/~ccarter/I_do_not_use_microsoft.html ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Transm. Modulator
The technical transmission series numbers aren't my best subject, (very complicated, little data access) but I always understood the red were for 1980-1985 non turbo diesel automatic cars, the 722.2xx trans, and the green were for the 1981-1985 722.3xx transmissions for the turbo 300 diesels, and a black one was used in the 722.4 transmissons, which made it into some of the 1985 300 turbo diesels. This information is only considerate of US market W123s, I don't know what variences and similaries exist for the 1978-1985 300SD, but I think largely the same rules would apply. Vince From: Hans Neureiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [MBZ] Transm. Modulator Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 08:38:04 -0600 What is the difference between a red and a green modulator on a 722.203tranny ? -- Hans Neureiter, Houston, TX '82 300SD, '95 E300D ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Korean 124s
That is wild, I'm amazed such a thing iswas allowed. On one hand I find it a sad, pathetic imitation of engineering and marketing/advertising that I wouldn't want diluting the car gene pool, but on the other hand, it's nice to see developing prosperity and capitalistic economic growth in areas of the world where often the citizens weren't always allowed to the free chance to create and produce their own national products for their fellow citizens and export market connections. Asia is catching up to (and some parts excelling) the western ideals of freedom for unhibited market creativity and the chance to succeed or fail based on the votes with currency from the masses. Kudos to them for that. Vince Club 123D President www.club123d.org From: Hendrik Riessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean 124s Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:27:09 +1030 Over here in Oz we get the Musso 4x4 and the delivery van called the MB100 which is branded as being a Mercedes but built in Korea and it tells. http://autoweb.drive.com.au/cms/A_51864/newsarticle.html http://www.ssangyongaustralia.com.au/ http://www.drive.com.au/editorial/article.aspx?id=9606vf=1 Ooooh looks like we get the Chairman as well...yippeee.not Hendrik who can buy a few 124's for the price of the Korean copy - Original Message - From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 3:55 AM Subject: [MBZ] Korean 124s I'm not making this up - just read about it on wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SsangYong_Motor_Company Look at the link marked Chairman, then go to their website and take a look. They licensed the 124 from MB, then built the 124s to look like 80s S-class MBs The Engrish is horrible, esp. with the overuse of silky everywhere, but I can't believe my eyes. Has anyone heard of this or seen this before? -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.14.9/216 - Release Date: 29/12/2005 ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Korean 124s
Surely you jest, sir! I think you are trying to confuse me as to how you feel about these cars. That message seems un'Kaleb and I don't know you that well! There is no way any reproduction even from MB could be marketed to the exact caliber, design and standards (with any of the few updates MB had improvised to work out a couple little bugs, such as no more ACC servos from hell) if not for cost issues, then for enviromental regulations. So a Chinese knock off is REALLY unappealing, largely for the same reasons a Chinese knock-off ANYTHING is undesireable. This has got to be a test for the new guy... Vince From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean 124s Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:39:34 -0600 I think it would be nice of some chineese company or whatever licensed to start making brand new 126's, 123, and even 115's V Layton wrote: That is wild, I'm amazed such a thing iswas allowed. On one hand I find it a sad, pathetic imitation of engineering and marketing/advertising that I wouldn't want diluting the car gene pool, but on the other hand, it's nice to see developing prosperity and capitalistic economic growth in areas of the world where often the citizens weren't always allowed to the free chance to create and produce their own national products for their fellow citizens and export market connections. Asia is catching up to (and some parts excelling) the western ideals of freedom for unhibited market creativity and the chance to succeed or fail based on the votes with currency from the masses. Kudos to them for that. Vince Club 123D President www.club123d.org -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL, 85 380SE, 85 300D, 84 250 LWB, 83 300TD, 81 300TD, 81 240D, 81 240D, 76 450SEL, 76 240D, 76 300D, 74 240D, 69 250 http://www.striplin.net ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Korean 124s
I recently heard this mentioned elsewhere, I had never heard about it before or at the time, very interesting. I obviously need a list of produced VIN and engine numbers and certain ID features- I'd like to think I could spot a phony, it depend on how good it was done, and why would anyone want to pay to produce one when a real one could be genuinely restored? With a list, if I ever come across a VIN that wasn't officially listed with MB, (and no official VIN changes records were availible) I could verify whether a W123 is phony or not. (Sorry, I only need the W123 info, I consider the other chassis not my specialty, not my business, and certainly not my subject to which I should be considered any kind of authority of information, you may have to get used to that quirk of my car passion personality!) Vince Club 123D President www.club123d.org How soon we forget - the Nigerian scam-artists tried to convince us they were re-making w123s over 3 years ago. Don't you remember, all of them would be fitted with OM616.912 motors, and wagons would have leaf springs in the back... _ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963
Re: [MBZ] Manny trans
OK here is the rest, if Kaleb approves, each is too big to slide under the 40kb screen Here are some pics of the free transmission From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Manny trans Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:29:37 -0700 On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:43:01 -0800 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince, of the 123 club is giving away a manny trans. and has pix. Anybody want to see if this is going to be right for use as a spare in Gump? http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=9892goto=newpost NO saying mean or bad things regarding anything but the use of this part for Gump. Or my lack of sufficient brain matter. that is a fine topic. Will even go and post a huge list of cars you do not want How about saying mean or bad things regarding the fact that I have to sign up to see the pictures? Maybe you could download them and mail them to this list. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mysttrans2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 0 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051231/7cddeef5/mysttrans2.jpg
Re: [MBZ] Manny trans
I sent pictures, they are subject ot Kaleb's approval since they were all too big for the requirements, sorry. Anyone interested in giving this mystery-to-me trans a good home for just shipping, email me directly and I'll reply with the pics attached. Thanks Vince From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Manny trans Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:29:37 -0700 On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:43:01 -0800 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince, of the 123 club is giving away a manny trans. and has pix. Anybody want to see if this is going to be right for use as a spare in Gump? http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=9892goto=newpost NO saying mean or bad things regarding anything but the use of this part for Gump. Or my lack of sufficient brain matter. that is a fine topic. Will even go and post a huge list of cars you do not want How about saying mean or bad things regarding the fact that I have to sign up to see the pictures? Maybe you could download them and mail them to this list. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Manny trans
ok nevermind they didn't attach... I must not be too good at working this list's functions! Oh well... From: V Layton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Manny trans Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:49:13 + OK here is the rest, if Kaleb approves, each is too big to slide under the 40kb screen Here are some pics of the free transmission From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Manny trans Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:29:37 -0700 On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:43:01 -0800 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince, of the 123 club is giving away a manny trans. and has pix. Anybody want to see if this is going to be right for use as a spare in Gump? http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=9892goto=newpost NO saying mean or bad things regarding anything but the use of this part for Gump. Or my lack of sufficient brain matter. that is a fine topic. Will even go and post a huge list of cars you do not want How about saying mean or bad things regarding the fact that I have to sign up to see the pictures? Maybe you could download them and mail them to this list. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mysttrans2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 0 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051231/7cddeef5/mysttrans2.jpg ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/
Re: [MBZ] Manny trans
Ok, let me try this again one at a time. Here are some pics of the free transmission From: Craig McCluskey [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Manny trans Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:29:37 -0700 On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:43:01 -0800 redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Vince, of the 123 club is giving away a manny trans. and has pix. Anybody want to see if this is going to be right for use as a spare in Gump? http://mbca.cartama.net/showthread.php?t=9892goto=newpost NO saying mean or bad things regarding anything but the use of this part for Gump. Or my lack of sufficient brain matter. that is a fine topic. Will even go and post a huge list of cars you do not want How about saying mean or bad things regarding the fact that I have to sign up to see the pictures? Maybe you could download them and mail them to this list. Craig ___ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net _ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: mysttrans2.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 42240 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net/attachments/20051231/9654e79f/mysttrans2.jpg
[MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info
Hello to all the Mercedes fans here at Striplin.net! This is my first post here and I'm sorry it took me awhile to contribute, I'm kind of a one track person with precious little time these days (which is good, I guess!) but now I've found some time I can concentrate on geting used to this list. I think I must be spoiled by forum mode setups? Maybe I haven't figured out all the features yet- like how to log-in to read all the threads- Anyways, I wanted to answer some questions about my auto club for W123 chassis cars, to clear up some of the points I read. THE LIMO: The limo finally sold today for $600! It was bought by a member of my club, hopefully it will get some design updates and all the mechanical restoration it needs! CLUB 123D: I'm an eccentric, molded as a freak of nature and fate which has called me to pursue a fantastic vision of the ultimate positive and preservative resource for the long term enjoyment of my favorite car ever, the W123 chassis. I want every classic American ideal for automotive enthusiasm provided by a single resource. In a land where there is a nut and/or a group following for every kind of car practiacally made, and often fine European cars are snubbed and misunderstood, I wanted to see all the fun and celebration of car hobbyists presented to the W123 owner, and maybe then some. I'm trying to make these services availible to the W123 enthusiast: A national registry A club newsletter Hall of historical records, information, literature- of MB, W123, W123 era related technological developemts and of Club 123D itself Novelties, art, Club memorabilia - (shirts - decal logos, grille badges) An Annual car show A technical gathering event A social gathering event 2 annual road rally tours, of varying grades of difficulty and endurance Member rated maintenance, repair and restoration services logistical services personal assistance, advice, negotiaion and PPI services for transfer of ownership It's traditional in the sense it has memberships, with fees, little cards, and a periodical. It's not so traditional in that is offers all the traditional things but also can serve as funtioning mechanical facility. It's quite a unigue approach, I've narrowed out all other cars EXCEPT ANY W123 chassis- there is a certain uniformity I enjoy. I like many other kinds of MB's but I specialize in W123- completely and exclusively. It's not going to be for or liked by everybody, but if I can keep up my approach of behaving in an opposite way of a certain unpopular MB part supplier, the general concensus will really appreciate what it is for what it is and I hope this club will be a noteworthy effort for encouraging W123 preservation and enthusuasm. I appreciate anyone's support. THE CAR SHOW: I'm sorry it wasn't clear enough that popular vote categories would not be simply my will So I'm a little big on disclaimers, I try to cut off obviois questions and concerns and exploitative ideas with them. It's the very first show. There is no clamoring for a W123 show, but as for what I'm trying to do, I have to MAKE one. Humble, humble beginnings, folks. Like the first Spring tour: Nobody had the idea I ever met or talked to so I created it because I wanted it. I worked up the whole thing with some assistance in the event operation. FOUR people particiapated, I was only up to 11 members at the time. But it was real and then I had photos and experience of the event relayed from the members who were on it to have the 9 particiapnts in 2005, we were at member 30 at that time. Currently we stand at 40, and I would not be surprised to be at 50 members and 15 particiapants for the May 2006 event. That's how the show will work, I just put it out on the table and try to get as many people to come as I can, then I will have photos and results and they will encourage others not to miss the next one! (I hope, of course) MY WEBSITE: It's a little galleryish- I actually want it to be this way. The home page photos are all actual member registered cars, no duplicaes, and not all there yet. The membership fee is not just to get your car's photo on my hallowed page that would be a rip, it's one of the lower automatic perks of the Club membership. The website, while free and visible to all, is supposed to be a perk for Club members, and they are supporting it, as well as the club's existence. I understand if someone doesn't just want to make a public television-like donation with their paid membership, but it can certainly be thought of that way. Also, it may look amatuerish, because it is! I am the web ignorant doofus registar dot com thrives on, and I, knowing nothing the day prior to the purchase 10-15-05, that's what I managed to get up as some kind of internet represenataive for my club with all their included, consumer grade tools- but it got me on e the air and is suitable for my needs.
Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info
Not you, Kaleb (I realized how that may be interpreted) I was referrig to the company with the new website I saw around here! You know... (I don't like to blast others, competitors, and such, STL is a small town, bad vibes tend to catch up to one, I don't know them, have not used them, but you all aren't the only ones with a low opinion of them that I've heard... From: Kaleb C. Striplin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] Official CLub 123D Info Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:20:49 -0600 So who is the certain unnamed mercedes parts seller? V Layton wrote: Hello to all the Mercedes fans here at Striplin.net! This is my first post here and I'm sorry it took me awhile to contribute, I'm kind of a one track person with precious little time these days (which is good, I guess!) but now I've found some time I can concentrate on geting used to this list. I think I must be spoiled by forum mode setups? Maybe I haven't figured out all the features yet- like how to log-in to read all the threads- Anyways, I wanted to answer some questions about my auto club for W123 chassis cars, to clear up some of the points I read. THE LIMO: The limo finally sold today for $600! It was bought by a member of my club, hopefully it will get some design updates and all the mechanical restoration it needs! CLUB 123D: I'm an eccentric, molded as a freak of nature and fate which has called me to pursue a fantastic vision of the ultimate positive and preservative resource for the long term enjoyment of my favorite car ever, the W123 chassis. I want every classic American ideal for automotive enthusiasm provided by a single resource. In a land where there is a nut and/or a group following for every kind of car practiacally made, and often fine European cars are snubbed and misunderstood, I wanted to see all the fun and celebration of car hobbyists presented to the W123 owner, and maybe then some. I'm trying to make these services availible to the W123 enthusiast: A national registry A club newsletter Hall of historical records, information, literature- of MB, W123, W123 era related technological developemts and of Club 123D itself Novelties, art, Club memorabilia - (shirts - decal logos, grille badges) An Annual car show A technical gathering event A social gathering event 2 annual road rally tours, of varying grades of difficulty and endurance Member rated maintenance, repair and restoration services logistical services personal assistance, advice, negotiaion and PPI services for transfer of ownership It's traditional in the sense it has memberships, with fees, little cards, and a periodical. It's not so traditional in that is offers all the traditional things but also can serve as funtioning mechanical facility. It's quite a unigue approach, I've narrowed out all other cars EXCEPT ANY W123 chassis- there is a certain uniformity I enjoy. I like many other kinds of MB's but I specialize in W123- completely and exclusively. It's not going to be for or liked by everybody, but if I can keep up my approach of behaving in an opposite way of a certain unpopular MB part supplier, the general concensus will really appreciate what it is for what it is and I hope this club will be a noteworthy effort for encouraging W123 preservation and enthusuasm. I appreciate anyone's support. THE CAR SHOW: I'm sorry it wasn't clear enough that popular vote categories would not be simply my will So I'm a little big on disclaimers, I try to cut off obviois questions and concerns and exploitative ideas with them. It's the very first show. There is no clamoring for a W123 show, but as for what I'm trying to do, I have to MAKE one. Humble, humble beginnings, folks. Like the first Spring tour: Nobody had the idea I ever met or talked to so I created it because I wanted it. I worked up the whole thing with some assistance in the event operation. FOUR people particiapated, I was only up to 11 members at the time. But it was real and then I had photos and experience of the event relayed from the members who were on it to have the 9 particiapnts in 2005, we were at member 30 at that time. Currently we stand at 40, and I would not be surprised to be at 50 members and 15 particiapants for the May 2006 event. That's how the show will work, I just put it out on the table and try to get as many people to come as I can, then I will have photos and results and they will encourage others not to miss the next one! (I hope, of course) MY WEBSITE: It's a little galleryish- I actually want it to be this way. The home page photos are all actual member registered cars, no duplicaes, and not all there yet. The membership fee is not just to get your car's photo on my hallowed page that would be a rip, it's one
