Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

As it always has been 

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> On Jan 29, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> It is not the miners who get rich, it is the folks servicing the miners 
> making millions.

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Clay via Mercedes]

Ah, 

Siding of choice in ANC seems to be T1-11.  They slap the homes together during 
the summer.  No joke.  From June to September it is a mad scramble to toss up 
as many of the turds as possible.  Last summer may have been a bit off, as 
there was much post earthquake repair going on, but the houses sprout up out of 
cut rate california house plan catalogues and there seem to be no changes made 
in specifications to account for being in the sub arctic.  On slab, at grade, 
2x4 framing, lowest cost options you could scrounge from Home  Despot.  Maybe 
you get a better grade of appliance to make up for the snap together flooring, 
vacu-form counters, and bargain plumbing fixtures.

I would posit that if you really want a decent home up here, you begin mapping 
the whole thing out two or three years in advance.  Do extensive geotech work 
while you get the wish list hashed out.  Second year is all ground work, 
excavation, connections to power, water, sewer and building the 
basement/foundation work with any solar/back up energy/geothermal installation. 
 Maybe a person puts main floor trusses and basic earthquake 
securement/strapping.  Nail down all the product required to finish the project 
and have it on the first barge up for the season so it is in place as soon as 
the weather permits framing to begin.  Have one of the vinyl sheeted storage 
structures on site to hold it so there is no waiting around.

SWMBA still thinks in terms of living in the real USA.  Figures she can just go 
to the local big box and have something delivered in a few days.  Turns out her 
washing machine will take a month to come up.  Standard LG front loader, but 
there was only one of that model in ANC and it was black (racist).  She has 
been looking at replacement for the fireplace hearth since April.  Looks like 
she will have to pay to ship a whole 8x10 slab of granite up, then she only 
needs pay for the section she uses.  At three times the sqft rate of down south.

It is not the miners who get rich, it is the folks servicing the miners making 
millions.


clay

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cheap slab houses with vinyl siding over crappy construction. Fast and cheap. 
>  Basically disposable.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/29/20 5:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:29:56 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> it's in one of those new Nexton vinyl villages with an alley in back
>>> of the house/garage.
>> "Nexton vinyl villages"?
>> 
>> 
>> Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Cheap slab houses with vinyl siding over crappy construction. Fast and 
cheap.  Basically disposable.


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On 1/29/20 5:21 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:29:56 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:


it's in one of those new Nexton vinyl villages with an alley in back
of the house/garage.

"Nexton vinyl villages"?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

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On Wed, 29 Jan 2020 10:29:56 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> it's in one of those new Nexton vinyl villages with an alley in back
> of the house/garage.

"Nexton vinyl villages"?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

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My best friend passed away unexpectedly just after Xmas, leaving his
affairs in flux.  His brother drove down to sort things out in his condo.
First thing he learned was that both sets of car keys and the brother's
wallet were MIA.  We have no idea where they went - the front door was
always unlocked so it could have been anyone (23rd floor in a secure
building)

Mercedes content:  The dealer quickly provided a replacement key for the
2008 E55 AMG sedan (25 k miles).  The key worked so that was settled.

The BMW dealer was very unhelpful in getting the 2005 station wagon up and
running.  After a week they grudgingly sold the brother a replacement key,
which opened the door but would not start the ca (the car was running
perfectly previously).  They refused to provide a tech to make a house call
or even to talk through the issues,  so the car is being towed to the
dealership.





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> I'd forgotten about the time I had a Passat which I thought was a Jetta...
> Curt
>
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>   On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:12 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   I flew into Dulles one night late and
> picked up a white Taurus rental,
> drove to the hotel at like midnight and parked it and paid no attention
> to it.  Come out the next morning and there were like 15 white Ford
> Tauri in the parking lot...  I finally found it by looking at license
> plates, the number for which was on the key tag.
>
> --FT
>
> On 1/28/20 8:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> > When I travel I usually aim to get a Kia Soul not because its a great
> car, its not, but because they come in bright colors. Nothing is worse than
> a silver Camry, I've lost several of them and had to use the key fob
> emergency button to find the car.
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'd forgotten about the time I had a Passat which I thought was a Jetta...
Curt

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  On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:12 AM, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes wrote:   I flew into Dulles one night late and 
picked up a white Taurus rental, 
drove to the hotel at like midnight and parked it and paid no attention 
to it.  Come out the next morning and there were like 15 white Ford 
Tauri in the parking lot...  I finally found it by looking at license 
plates, the number for which was on the key tag.

--FT

On 1/28/20 8:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> When I travel I usually aim to get a Kia Soul not because its a great car, 
> its not, but because they come in bright colors. Nothing is worse than a 
> silver Camry, I've lost several of them and had to use the key fob emergency 
> button to find the car.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's a better idea, add that to my '95 E300 to increase range so when we
have to bug out WTSHTF, then we'll be able to get deep into 'Merica.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 10:31 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> or you could use the tank for emergency fuel (for car or generator)  or
> to extend range of a diesel.
>
> I have a 30 gal Diesel tank out back I keep for hurricane fuel. (or
> other emergencies)
>
> > Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > January 29, 2020 at 8:41 AM
> > I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of
> destroying
> > another fine MB diesel.
> > -
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

or you could use the tank for emergency fuel (for car or generator)  or 
to extend range of a diesel.


I have a 30 gal Diesel tank out back I keep for hurricane fuel. (or 
other emergencies)



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
January 29, 2020 at 8:41 AM
I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of destroying
another fine MB diesel.
-
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

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She told me they did the conversion out west somewhere, Oregon or 
Washington if I recall.  No rust on it, body was good, interior was good 
though it had sheepskins on the front seats so I didn't pull those 
back.  It really just needs and engine transplant and be good to go 
after removing all the veggie nonsense.  This is not a turbo engine.


She had a new front bumper in the garage too she was gonna throw in.  I 
could use that on the smashed $500E300.  Hubbie packed on her and moved 
to Arkiesaw and took the title which he can't find now.  Her boy at CCU 
had the key for some reason and she texted him to send it back.  Would 
need that to move it, it's in one of those new Nexton vinyl villages 
with an alley in back of the house/garage.


--FT

On 1/29/20 10:15 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Ok, let's try to get it, divide up the spoils after we drag it away. I'm hoping 
the exhaust system is complete and not rusted out. May need to run the VIN to 
see if it lived in tin worm country.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 29, 2020 10:10:21 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :


It was a nice stainless steel tank about 18" cube with the fittings on
it, could probably be repurposed into something else. I'm thinking a
still...

I don't know why she would take $300 from Max when she wouldn't take
$300 from me, maybe Max would have more charm. I'd still have to go
fetch it though and leave it at one of the stash houses.

I'll ping her again tomorrow about it.

--FT

On 1/29/20 9:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:


Yeah, I’m all for that. Send it to the scrappers.

-D



On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
wrote:

Good. Stand on principle.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:42 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:



I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of destroying
another fine MB diesel.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:30 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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what is a "veg oil conversion kit" worth to the fakebuch morons?



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
January 29, 2020 at 7:51 AM
Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the


catalytic


converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
injectors.
-
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Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ok, let's try to get it, divide up the spoils after we drag it away. I'm hoping 
the exhaust system is complete and not rusted out. May need to run the VIN to 
see if it lived in tin worm country.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 29, 2020 10:10:21 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> It was a nice stainless steel tank about 18" cube with the fittings on
> it, could probably be repurposed into something else. I'm thinking a
> still...
> 
> I don't know why she would take $300 from Max when she wouldn't take
> $300 from me, maybe Max would have more charm. I'd still have to go
> fetch it though and leave it at one of the stash houses.
> 
> I'll ping her again tomorrow about it.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 1/29/20 9:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > Yeah, I’m all for that. Send it to the scrappers.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Good. Stand on principle.
> > > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:42 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of 
> > > > destroying
> > > > another fine MB diesel.
> > > > -
> > > > Max
> > > > Charleston SC
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:30 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > what is a "veg oil conversion kit" worth to the fakebuch morons?
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > > > > > January 29, 2020 at 7:51 AM
> > > > > > Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > catalytic
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
> > > > > > injectors.
> > > > > > -
> > > > > > Max
> > > > > > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I flew into Dulles one night late and picked up a white Taurus rental, 
drove to the hotel at like midnight and parked it and paid no attention 
to it.  Come out the next morning and there were like 15 white Ford 
Tauri in the parking lot...  I finally found it by looking at license 
plates, the number for which was on the key tag.


--FT

On 1/28/20 8:28 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

When I travel I usually aim to get a Kia Soul not because its a great car, its 
not, but because they come in bright colors. Nothing is worse than a silver 
Camry, I've lost several of them and had to use the key fob emergency button to 
find the car.
-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It was a nice stainless steel tank about 18" cube with the fittings on 
it, could probably be repurposed into something else. I'm thinking a 
still...


I don't know why she would take $300 from Max when she wouldn't take 
$300 from me, maybe Max would have more charm.  I'd still have to go 
fetch it though and leave it at one of the stash houses.


I'll ping her again tomorrow about it.

--FT

On 1/29/20 9:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I’m all for that. Send it to the scrappers.

-D


On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes  
wrote:

Good. Stand on principle.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:42 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of destroying
another fine MB diesel.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:30 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


what is a "veg oil conversion kit" worth to the fakebuch morons?


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
January 29, 2020 at 7:51 AM
Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the

catalytic

converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
injectors.
-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I’m all for that. Send it to the scrappers.

-D

> On Jan 29, 2020, at 9:42 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good. Stand on principle.
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:42 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of destroying
>> another fine MB diesel.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:30 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> what is a "veg oil conversion kit" worth to the fakebuch morons?
>>> 
 Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 January 29, 2020 at 7:51 AM
 Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the
>> catalytic
 converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
 injectors.
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Good. Stand on principle.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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> I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of destroying
> another fine MB diesel.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:30 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > what is a "veg oil conversion kit" worth to the fakebuch morons?
> >
> > > Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > > January 29, 2020 at 7:51 AM
> > > Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the
> catalytic
> > > converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
> > > injectors.
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I could never resell that, it must go into the trash instead of destroying
another fine MB diesel.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Jan 29, 2020 at 9:30 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> what is a "veg oil conversion kit" worth to the fakebuch morons?
>
> > Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > January 29, 2020 at 7:51 AM
> > Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the catalytic
> > converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
> > injectors.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

what is a "veg oil conversion kit" worth to the fakebuch morons?


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
January 29, 2020 at 7:51 AM
Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the catalytic
converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
injectors.
-
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[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Send me the number, I'll give them a call and offer $300 if the catalytic
converter / muffler is any good and they have receipt for the new
injectors.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:41 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear coat
> was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel with
> a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF.
>
> I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or
> something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like
> 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this
> was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but
> it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the
> injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim.
>
> I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this car and
> have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would have to go
> so I guess that would be some challenge.
>
> She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer but
> has my info.
>
> I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see what
> the story is with it. I hate the white/beige.
>
> --FT
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

There was a small used car lot in SEA east downtown that had some very
clean older Mercedes (W111 and 108) about 8 years ago.  NO RUST.

On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 9:39 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> It seemed to me that black was the color of choice for cars in SEA.  Up
> here in ANC, it is take what ever is on the lot and thank the scumbag
> stealer for allowing you to have a new car.  The winter take a pretty good
> toll on cars (evidenced by the large number of body shops with yards
> stuffed full with cars).  There are many tiers of used car lots.  White is
> not popular here except on a work van. Red is hot.  Blues and greens, seems
> the cars that would not have a good chance of selling/lease in any other
> market get sent north.
>
> clay
>
> > On Jan 28, 2020, at 7:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > A few years ago a car dealer told me the easiest car color to resell was
> white. As long as people worry about resale value more than their own
> enjoyment of the car we'll stay in blandsville.
> > Curt
> >
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[Clay via Mercedes]

It seemed to me that black was the color of choice for cars in SEA.  Up here in 
ANC, it is take what ever is on the lot and thank the scumbag stealer for 
allowing you to have a new car.  The winter take a pretty good toll on cars 
(evidenced by the large number of body shops with yards stuffed full with 
cars).  There are many tiers of used car lots.  White is not popular here 
except on a work van. Red is hot.  Blues and greens, seems the cars that would 
not have a good chance of selling/lease in any other market get sent north.

clay

> On Jan 28, 2020, at 7:00 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A few years ago a car dealer told me the easiest car color to resell was 
> white. As long as people worry about resale value more than their own 
> enjoyment of the car we'll stay in blandsville.
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

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[Clay via Mercedes]

SWMBA house has that blah grey tone interior paint.  I seem to recall that in 
SEA you could take your the unused portion of paint in the can to the recycle 
depot/hazard waste yard for recycle/remix.  All the discards got magically 
enhanced into a large mixer (somebody must have had a clue what they were 
looking to end up with) and then dispensed into 5 gallon buckets for quick and 
dirty application to walls.  Sold the stuff at dollar store prices.  I never 
used it, but did supply them with many buckets of paint.   I am at a loss for 
how they mixed up the pumpkin spice flavor cans I donated.

Either way, I think the end product was on the greyish (zombie flesh?) tone or 
weak chocolate milk.

clay


> On Jan 28, 2020, at 4:26 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Most houses today are moving to a mix of grey and beige. They call it 
> greyige. They attribute it to the home "improvement" shows on TV. Note I put 
> improvement in quotes. Most of those houses are unlivable when they're done 
> with them. I'm glad I don't watch them.
> -Curt


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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 When I travel I usually aim to get a Kia Soul not because its a great car, its 
not, but because they come in bright colors. Nothing is worse than a silver 
Camry, I've lost several of them and had to use the key fob emergency button to 
find the car.
-Curt

On Tuesday, January 28, 2020, 1:08:41 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Historically, VW and dogde stand out in my memory for offering bright 
colors.   Plum Crazy, superbee, and bright yellow and red bugs along 
with blue green and other color bugs.

I would expect these companies to be the first to offer colors again.   
I have seen bright yellow dogdes already.

> Craig via Mercedes 
> January 28, 2020 at 11:14 AM
> On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 09:33:50 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>
> Actually, the resurgence has already begun!
>
> https://blog.fcpeuro.com/14-of-the-most-interesting-colors-offered-on-european-cars-today
>
> Of note is the number of colors mentioned for each manufacturer:
>
> Volvo 1
> Porsche 3
> Volkswagen 3
> Audi 3
> BMW 3
> Mercedes-Benz 1
>
> This, of course, is not the number of colors each manufacturer offers ...
>
>
> Craig
>

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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Historically, VW and dogde stand out in my memory for offering bright 
colors.   Plum Crazy, superbee, and bright yellow and red bugs along 
with blue green and other color bugs.


I would expect these companies to be the first to offer colors again.   
I have seen bright yellow dogdes already.



Craig via Mercedes 
January 28, 2020 at 11:14 AM
On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 09:33:50 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes

Actually, the resurgence has already begun!

https://blog.fcpeuro.com/14-of-the-most-interesting-colors-offered-on-european-cars-today

Of note is the number of colors mentioned for each manufacturer:

Volvo 1
Porsche 3
Volkswagen 3
Audi 3
BMW 3
Mercedes-Benz 1

This, of course, is not the number of colors each manufacturer offers ...


Craig



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On Tue, 28 Jan 2020 09:33:50 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> you got it.   Depression psychology.    But fortunately, a few people 
> are starting to break the grip of the dark gray depression.   Look for
> a resurgence of color in the next few years.

Actually, the resurgence has already begun!

https://blog.fcpeuro.com/14-of-the-most-interesting-colors-offered-on-european-cars-today

Of note is the number of colors mentioned for each manufacturer:

Volvo   1
Porsche 3
Volkswagen  3
Audi3
BMW 3
Mercedes-Benz   1

This, of course, is not the number of colors each manufacturer offers ...


Craig

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A few years ago a car dealer told me the easiest car color to resell was white. 
As long as people worry about resale value more than their own enjoyment of the 
car we'll stay in blandsville.
Curt

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  On Tue, Jan 28, 2020 at 10:34 AM, Curley McLain via 
Mercedes wrote:   you got it.   Depression psychology.   
 But fortunately, a few people 
are starting to break the grip of the dark gray depression.   Look for a 
resurgence of color in the next few years.

> fmiser via Mercedes 
> January 28, 2020 at 9:06 AM
>> Curley wrote:
>> EVERYTHING is GRAY!!!
> Like a battleship?
>
> Or a prison?
>
> Just sayin'
>
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

you got it.   Depression psychology.    But fortunately, a few people 
are starting to break the grip of the dark gray depression.   Look for a 
resurgence of color in the next few years.



fmiser via Mercedes 
January 28, 2020 at 9:06 AM

Curley wrote:
EVERYTHING is GRAY!!!

Like a battleship?

Or a prison?

Just sayin'




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[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> EVERYTHING is GRAY!!! 

Like a battleship?

Or a prison?

Just sayin'

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

210 antenna is built into the rear bumper.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2020, at 6:10 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Parts car. Maybe I could use the muffler and injectors (if they did just 
> install those, no WVO usage), then might be useful to remove the starter, 
> alternator, compressor, and put those on the shelf. Were the tires any good? 
> Radio stock? Wonder if the antenna would fit in a 124.
> 
> 
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> Charleston SC
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[dan--- via Mercedes]

I call these “appliance colors”.

They resemble industrial grays and other colors that were popular in the late 
50s and early 60s. Some I like, others, not so much.

-D

> On Jan 28, 2020, at 8:26 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Most houses today are moving to a mix of grey and beige. They call it 
> greyige. They attribute it to the home "improvement" shows on TV. Note I put 
> improvement in quotes. Most of those houses are unlivable when they're done 
> with them. I'm glad I don't watch them.
> -Curt
> 
>On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:05:45 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> Some little bowtie designer snot at montvale or some bowtie marketing 
> snot at montvale told the MBUSA suits that was the appropriate colors 
> for the time.   Like every house for sale or redone by a designer has 
> any color you want as long as it is GRAY   DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS GRAY!   
> That is what the hipsters are buying (because the same designers (and 
> better homes & Gardens, etc) told them everything in the house has to be 
> GRAY!  Just went by a newly redone Tar-jay store on Sat.  EVERYTHING is 
> GRAY!!! Even the red circles of their logo are DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS 
> GRAY! Fuglyy!!!   but is what sells.   The BH circuit has 
> not yest discovered that we are in the 4th year of a new era, and the 
> DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS GRAY is OUT!   I am starting to see more brand x 
> cars in living colors.  That is a good sign.
> 
> #1 daughter just had me look at pictures of the "ideal" house they 
> found.  Guess what!  EVERY surface inside the whole house is DULL, DRAB, 
> COLORLESS GRAY!   Whatver
> 
> 
> 
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> January 27, 2020 at 8:58 PM
>> Yeah if I got it I’d put the turbo engine in it, I bet it’s completely 
>> buggered.
>> 
>> It’s gray with a beige interior though. Fugly. What were they thinking?
>> 
>> --FT
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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Most houses today are moving to a mix of grey and beige. They call it greyige. 
They attribute it to the home "improvement" shows on TV. Note I put improvement 
in quotes. Most of those houses are unlivable when they're done with them. I'm 
glad I don't watch them.
-Curt

On Monday, January 27, 2020, 11:05:45 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Some little bowtie designer snot at montvale or some bowtie marketing 
snot at montvale told the MBUSA suits that was the appropriate colors 
for the time.   Like every house for sale or redone by a designer has 
any color you want as long as it is GRAY   DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS GRAY!   
That is what the hipsters are buying (because the same designers (and 
better homes & Gardens, etc) told them everything in the house has to be 
GRAY!  Just went by a newly redone Tar-jay store on Sat.  EVERYTHING is 
GRAY!!! Even the red circles of their logo are DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS 
GRAY! Fuglyy!!!   but is what sells.   The BH circuit has 
not yest discovered that we are in the 4th year of a new era, and the 
DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS GRAY is OUT!   I am starting to see more brand x 
cars in living colors.  That is a good sign.

#1 daughter just had me look at pictures of the "ideal" house they 
found.  Guess what!  EVERY surface inside the whole house is DULL, DRAB, 
COLORLESS GRAY!   Whatver



> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> January 27, 2020 at 8:58 PM
> Yeah if I got it I’d put the turbo engine in it, I bet it’s completely 
> buggered.
>
> It’s gray with a beige interior though. Fugly. What were they thinking?
>
> --FT

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[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The car has been sitting awhile. One tire was flat, others looked old. Looked 
like veg oil dripping out the bottom and on the driveway. Engine oil either was 
clean or nonexistent on the dipstick. Was kinda sad because the car generally 
wasn’t bad. It really would be a good transplant candidate. I’ve got engine and 
tires...  

--FT
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> On Jan 28, 2020, at 7:10 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Parts car. Maybe I could use the muffler and injectors (if they did just 
> install those, no WVO usage), then might be useful to remove the starter, 
> alternator, compressor, and put those on the shelf. Were the tires any good? 
> Radio stock? Wonder if the antenna would fit in a 124.
> 
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Parts car. Maybe I could use the muffler and injectors (if they did just 
install those, no WVO usage), then might be useful to remove the starter, 
alternator, compressor, and put those on the shelf. Were the tires any good? 
Radio stock? Wonder if the antenna would fit in a 124.


Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The minute I see/hear “WVO”, “fryer oil” or “veggie oil” I turn tail and run. 
There’s no way you’ll ever make one of these cars right again without major 
work and $$$.

-D


> On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah if I got it I’d put the turbo engine in it, I bet it’s completely 
> buggered. 
> 
> It’s gray with a beige interior though. Fugly. What were they thinking?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Waste veg oil never burns cleanly and always has huge carbon left behind. I
>> will give you odds the valves are clumps of carbon that are now holding
>> open, the rings are locked in their grooves with hard carbon. The IP is
>> destroyed and can NOT be rebuilt. The injectors are covered in hard carbon
>> and WVO snot baked and cooked and coked in place...
>> The other damage is to long to list.
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:42 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Come get it. She’ll call probably.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> Sent from iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Come on dude, you should have jumped on it. Find a $300 IP and then
>>> have a $2k car maybe.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> $500  I’m cheap though.
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the
>>> morons on the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear
>>> coat was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel
>>> with a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF.
>>> 
>>> I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or
>>> something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like
>>> 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this
>>> was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but
>>> it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the
>>> injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim.
>>> 
>>> I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this
>>> car and have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would
>>> have to go so I guess that would be some challenge.
>>> 
>>> She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer
>>> but has my info.
>>> 
>>> I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see
>>> what the story is with it. I hate the white/beige.
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Some little bowtie designer snot at montvale or some bowtie marketing 
snot at montvale told the MBUSA suits that was the appropriate colors 
for the time.   Like every house for sale or redone by a designer has 
any color you want as long as it is GRAY   DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS GRAY!   
That is what the hipsters are buying (because the same designers (and 
better homes & Gardens, etc) told them everything in the house has to be 
GRAY!  Just went by a newly redone Tar-jay store on Sat.  EVERYTHING is 
GRAY!!! Even the red circles of their logo are DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS 
GRAY! Fuglyy!!!   but is what sells.   The BH circuit has 
not yest discovered that we are in the 4th year of a new era, and the 
DULL, DRAB, COLORLESS GRAY is OUT!   I am starting to see more brand x 
cars in living colors.  That is a good sign.


#1 daughter just had me look at pictures of the "ideal" house they 
found.  Guess what!  EVERY surface inside the whole house is DULL, DRAB, 
COLORLESS GRAY!   Whatver





Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
January 27, 2020 at 8:58 PM
Yeah if I got it I’d put the turbo engine in it, I bet it’s completely 
buggered.


It’s gray with a beige interior though. Fugly. What were they thinking?

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah if I got it I’d put the turbo engine in it, I bet it’s completely 
buggered. 

It’s gray with a beige interior though. Fugly. What were they thinking?

--FT
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> On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:54 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Waste veg oil never burns cleanly and always has huge carbon left behind. I
> will give you odds the valves are clumps of carbon that are now holding
> open, the rings are locked in their grooves with hard carbon. The IP is
> destroyed and can NOT be rebuilt. The injectors are covered in hard carbon
> and WVO snot baked and cooked and coked in place...
> The other damage is to long to list.
> 
>> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:42 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Come get it. She’ll call probably.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Come on dude, you should have jumped on it. Find a $300 IP and then
>> have a $2k car maybe.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 $500  I’m cheap though.
 
 --FT
 Sent from iPhone
 
>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the
>> morons on the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear
>> coat was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel
>> with a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF.
>> 
>> I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or
>> something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like
>> 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this
>> was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but
>> it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the
>> injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim.
>> 
>> I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this
>> car and have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would
>> have to go so I guess that would be some challenge.
>> 
>> She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer
>> but has my info.
>> 
>> I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see
>> what the story is with it. I hate the white/beige.
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, that is all true.  Probably a $300 car after all.

On 1/27/2020 8:53 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Waste veg oil never burns cleanly and always has huge carbon left behind. I
will give you odds the valves are clumps of carbon that are now holding
open, the rings are locked in their grooves with hard carbon. The IP is
destroyed and can NOT be rebuilt. The injectors are covered in hard carbon
and WVO snot baked and cooked and coked in place...
The other damage is to long to list.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:42 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Come get it. She’ll call probably.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Come on dude, you should have jumped on it. Find a $300 IP and then

have a $2k car maybe.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

$500  I’m cheap though.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the

morons on the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear

coat was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel
with a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF.

I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or

something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like
2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this
was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but
it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the
injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim.

I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this

car and have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would
have to go so I guess that would be some challenge.

She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer

but has my info.

I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see

what the story is with it. I hate the white/beige.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Waste veg oil never burns cleanly and always has huge carbon left behind. I
will give you odds the valves are clumps of carbon that are now holding
open, the rings are locked in their grooves with hard carbon. The IP is
destroyed and can NOT be rebuilt. The injectors are covered in hard carbon
and WVO snot baked and cooked and coked in place...
The other damage is to long to list.

On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:42 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Come get it. She’ll call probably.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Come on dude, you should have jumped on it. Find a $300 IP and then
> have a $2k car maybe.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> $500  I’m cheap though.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >> Sent from iPhone
> >>
>  On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the
> morons on the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> > On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear
> coat was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel
> with a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF.
> 
>  I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or
> something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like
> 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this
> was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but
> it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the
> injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim.
> 
>  I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this
> car and have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would
> have to go so I guess that would be some challenge.
> 
>  She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer
> but has my info.
> 
>  I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see
> what the story is with it. I hate the white/beige.
> 
>  --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Come get it. She’ll call probably. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2020, at 9:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Come on dude, you should have jumped on it. Find a $300 IP and then have a 
> $2k car maybe. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> $500  I’m cheap though. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the morons 
>>> on the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear coat 
 was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel 
 with a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF. 
 
 I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or 
 something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like 
 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested 
 this was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors 
 but it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe 
 the injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim. 
 
 I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this car and 
 have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would have to 
 go so I guess that would be some challenge. 
 
 She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer but 
 has my info. 
 
 I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see what 
 the story is with it. I hate the white/beige. 
 
 --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I'd be worried that the rings are ruined by fifteen years of WVO. That's a 
parts car. $300 is about right.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jan 27, 2020 9:02:58 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> Come on dude, you should have jumped on it. Find a $300 IP and then have a 
> $2k car maybe.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> > On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > $500 I’m cheap though.
> > 
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> > 
> > 
> > > On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the 
> > > morons on the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear 
> > > > coat was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this 
> > > > panel with a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF.
> > > > 
> > > > I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or 
> > > > something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in 
> > > > like 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I 
> > > > suggested this was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced 
> > > > the injectors but it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine 
> > > > was dead, maybe the injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim.
> > > > 
> > > > I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this car 
> > > > and have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would 
> > > > have to go so I guess that would be some challenge.
> > > > 
> > > > She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer but 
> > > > has my info.
> > > > 
> > > > I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see 
> > > > what the story is with it. I hate the white/beige.
> > > > 
> > > > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Come on dude, you should have jumped on it. Find a $300 IP and then have a $2k 
car maybe. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:02 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> $500  I’m cheap though. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the morons 
>> on the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear coat 
>>> was gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel with 
>>> a temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF. 
>>> 
>>> I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or 
>>> something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like 
>>> 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this 
>>> was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but 
>>> it’s still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the 
>>> injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim. 
>>> 
>>> I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this car and 
>>> have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would have to go 
>>> so I guess that would be some challenge. 
>>> 
>>> She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer but has 
>>> my info. 
>>> 
>>> I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see what 
>>> the story is with it. I hate the white/beige. 
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

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> On Jan 27, 2020, at 8:00 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the morons 
> on the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear coat was 
>> gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel with a 
>> temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF. 
>> 
>> I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or 
>> something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like 
>> 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this 
>> was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but it’s 
>> still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the 
>> injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim. 
>> 
>> I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this car and 
>> have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would have to go 
>> so I guess that would be some challenge. 
>> 
>> She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer but has 
>> my info. 
>> 
>> I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see what 
>> the story is with it. I hate the white/beige. 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Get used to it if you’re buying MBs from this time frame. Seems that the bulk 
of them were white with “java” interior.

-D


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> I hate the white/beige. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep probably needs a IP. You could sell the WVO stuff to one or the morons on 
the 123 page. How much were they asking for the car?

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> On Jan 27, 2020, at 6:41 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> 
> I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear coat was 
> gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel with a 
> temp gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF. 
> 
> I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or 
> something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like 
> 2005. Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this 
> was why the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but it’s 
> still no go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the 
> injection pump or whatever. It's dead, Jim. 
> 
> I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this car and 
> have another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would have to go 
> so I guess that would be some challenge. 
> 
> She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer but has 
> my info. 
> 
> I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see what the 
> story is with it. I hate the white/beige. 
> 
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[MBZ] 97 E300

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I went to look at this dead car. Looked nice except for hood clear coat was 
gone. Interior nice. I lift up the ashtray door and see this panel with a temp 
gauge and a big switch that says VEG OIL. WTF. 

I look in the trunk and there’s a tank and plumbing, heating lines or 
something. I ask the woman she says they added the veg oil thing in like 2005. 
Collected and filtered restaurant oil and used that. I suggested this was why 
the car was dead. She said some mech replaced the injectors but it’s still no 
go. I suggested this was why the engine was dead, maybe the injection pump or 
whatever. It's dead, Jim. 

I offered $300 thinking I could put the smashed car engine in this car and have 
another nice E300. It’s not a turbo and the veg stuff would have to go so I 
guess that would be some challenge. 

She said someone else was coming to look at it so declined my offer but has my 
info. 

I picked up the 99 E300 today, battery needs to be charged. Will see what the 
story is with it. I hate the white/beige. 

--FT
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[MBZ] 97 E300 bucking like a bronco

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So after being off the road for many months due to replacing glow plugs, 
all fuel lines etc under the manifold put it back together and was 
getting check engine light for EGR.  Finally broke down and spent $300 
on a used one and put it on, cleared codes and it seemed fine, no more 
code. Took it for a drive. Now has plenty of power (although much slower 
than the 606 turbo I have been used to driving), but when trying to 
maintain a steady speed it surges almost like a bucking bronco, even 
with cruise set.  Well crap, I go back to house, mess with a few things, 
it still does it.  I even rev up engine to about 2k and hold it and it 
will do it.  Its something with that stupid control pressure flap and 
the EGR.  I then discover the vacuum line from the manifold to the 
pressure sensor has a small tear starting in it.  I replaced that and 
now it behaves and runs like it should.  I guess I will call it ready 
for duty.  It;s amazing how that little detail caused all kinds of 
problems.  I am now wondering if the old EGR valve was fine, but then 
again, it was setting codes and the new one does now.


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Re: [MBZ] 97 e300

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's possible, but it's also possible I am
Just used to the turbo version.

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> On Aug 8, 2016, at 9:32 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Perhaps it goes into some kind of reduced power limp mode when the EGR isn't
> working, similar to what the turbos do?
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Re: [MBZ] 97 e300

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Perhaps it goes into some kind of reduced power limp mode when the EGR isn't
working, similar to what the turbos do?

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[MBZ] 97 e300

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I finally pulled my 97 e300 out of the shop today after a long period of me 
slowly replacing glow plugs, and all the fuel lines and seals under the 
manifold. Took it for a drive today after being used to driving the 98 turbo. 
Boy is it slow. Actually I am not sure if it's normal slow or if there is a 
problem slow. I cleared the engine codes and had an egr code come back which I 
thought was because I didn't have the crossover pipe completely sealed yet. I 
cleared it again and had a check engine light come back on during the test 
drive. I bets it's egr again and that may reduce power. 

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Re: [MBZ] 97 e300 won't start

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes

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> On May 22, 2016, at 12:49 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does the starter turn the engine over?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] 97 e300 won't start

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Does the starter turn the engine over?
-- 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 e300 won't start

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It's a big relay in the relay box passenger side, control a lot of stuff I 
guess. I pulled mine out and took it apart and all the solder joints look ok, 
plugged all the plugs back in and it seems to be fine, which I have read will 
help for a while.  Even with the glow light on it does not want to start. I did 
have a lot of fuel under the car from sitting and had a piece of card board 
under it and did see some new fuel on it. So it appears to be leaking from the 
back of the shutoff valve. I need to replace all the lines and o rings. Maybe 
all the fuel has leaked out and is hard to bleed because it still leaks.

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> On May 22, 2016, at 11:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Says the K40 is your problem.  Whats that?
> 
>> On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I think this is my problem
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/367593-1997-mercedes-e300d-glow-plug-system-problem.html
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On May 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>> >
>> > What is strange is when it goes into a spell of glow plug light not coming 
>> > on, after a minute the aux fan will start up even though the acc is off. 
>> > When the glow plug light does come on, this does not happen.  Which is 
>> > just now did again.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On May 22, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I just got done replacing the glow plugs but the thing won't start. I 
>> >> tested all the old ones and 4 out of 6 were bad. When I first tried to 
>> >> start it glow light was not coming on. It then started coming on like 
>> >> normal and plugs were getting power. It shows no signs of even trying to 
>> >> start. I thought maybe with as long as it has been sitting the fuel bled 
>> >> down but I would think I would see some sign of trying to start. I'm 
>> >> thinking its electronic now, maybe somethings wrong in the security anti 
>> >> theft stuff. I will try my other key and if that does not work will hook 
>> >> up the laptop.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 97 e300 won't start

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Says the K40 is your problem.  Whats that?

On Sun, May 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think this is my problem
>
>
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/367593-1997-mercedes-e300d-glow-plug-system-problem.html
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On May 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> wrote:
> >
> > What is strange is when it goes into a spell of glow plug light not
> coming on, after a minute the aux fan will start up even though the acc is
> off. When the glow plug light does come on, this does not happen.  Which is
> just now did again.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 22, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I just got done replacing the glow plugs but the thing won't start. I
> tested all the old ones and 4 out of 6 were bad. When I first tried to
> start it glow light was not coming on. It then started coming on like
> normal and plugs were getting power. It shows no signs of even trying to
> start. I thought maybe with as long as it has been sitting the fuel bled
> down but I would think I would see some sign of trying to start. I'm
> thinking its electronic now, maybe somethings wrong in the security anti
> theft stuff. I will try my other key and if that does not work will hook up
> the laptop.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 97 e300 won't start

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I think this is my problem

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/367593-1997-mercedes-e300d-glow-plug-system-problem.html

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> On May 22, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> What is strange is when it goes into a spell of glow plug light not coming 
> on, after a minute the aux fan will start up even though the acc is off. When 
> the glow plug light does come on, this does not happen.  Which is just now 
> did again. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 22, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> I just got done replacing the glow plugs but the thing won't start. I tested 
>> all the old ones and 4 out of 6 were bad. When I first tried to start it 
>> glow light was not coming on. It then started coming on like normal and 
>> plugs were getting power. It shows no signs of even trying to start. I 
>> thought maybe with as long as it has been sitting the fuel bled down but I 
>> would think I would see some sign of trying to start. I'm thinking its 
>> electronic now, maybe somethings wrong in the security anti theft stuff. I 
>> will try my other key and if that does not work will hook up the laptop. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 97 e300 won't start

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

What is strange is when it goes into a spell of glow plug light not coming on, 
after a minute the aux fan will start up even though the acc is off. When the 
glow plug light does come on, this does not happen.  Which is just now did 
again. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 22, 2016, at 11:05 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin  wrote:
> 
> I just got done replacing the glow plugs but the thing won't start. I tested 
> all the old ones and 4 out of 6 were bad. When I first tried to start it glow 
> light was not coming on. It then started coming on like normal and plugs were 
> getting power. It shows no signs of even trying to start. I thought maybe 
> with as long as it has been sitting the fuel bled down but I would think I 
> would see some sign of trying to start. I'm thinking its electronic now, 
> maybe somethings wrong in the security anti theft stuff. I will try my other 
> key and if that does not work will hook up the laptop. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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[MBZ] 97 e300 won't start

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I just got done replacing the glow plugs but the thing won't start. I tested 
all the old ones and 4 out of 6 were bad. When I first tried to start it glow 
light was not coming on. It then started coming on like normal and plugs were 
getting power. It shows no signs of even trying to start. I thought maybe with 
as long as it has been sitting the fuel bled down but I would think I would see 
some sign of trying to start. I'm thinking its electronic now, maybe somethings 
wrong in the security anti theft stuff. I will try my other key and if that 
does not work will hook up the laptop. 

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Curt Raymond]

That too but I've found by experimentation that rotational speed doesn't have a 
whole lot to do with fuel usage in a diesel, not a direct link surely.

A 300D N/A gets worse economy than a 300D turbo while having less power. Diesel 
engines benefit from the turbo.
Fred has my copy of the history of the Diesel engine, it explains it better 
than I understand.

-Curt


Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:00:06 +1030
From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model
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Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the turbo Diesel 
got different gearing?

Hendrik
who only has inefficient Diesels

On 11/01/13 12:51, Curt Raymond wrote:
 Its not just performance, turbocharged diesels are more efficient. Look at 
 the 300D turbo vs the 240D. 1 extra cylinder, nearly double the horsepower, 
 ~5% drop in fuel economy...

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Hendrik and fay]

So you're saying that a Diesel spinning at 3000 will not use any more 
than one spinning at 2500?
Next question is why,if turbo Diesels are so efficient, did no one apart 
from the US and Japan get early turbo Diesels. I can think of cost to 
build and public acceptance as being a couple of factors, however 
wouldn't have Hans the friendly Stuttgart taxi driver been happier with 
a turbo 123 200D if it gets better mileage?


Hendrik
who has to go any fix a fan in the kitchen

On 13/01/13 00:36, Curt Raymond wrote:

That too but I've found by experimentation that rotational speed doesn't have a 
whole lot to do with fuel usage in a diesel, not a direct link surely.

A 300D N/A gets worse economy than a 300D turbo while having less power. Diesel 
engines benefit from the turbo.
Fred has my copy of the history of the Diesel engine, it explains it better 
than I understand.

-Curt


Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:00:06 +1030
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model
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Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the turbo Diesel
got different gearing?

Hendrik
who only has inefficient Diesels

On 11/01/13 12:51, Curt Raymond wrote:

Its not just performance, turbocharged diesels are more efficient. Look at the 
300D turbo vs the 240D. 1 extra cylinder, nearly double the horsepower, ~5% 
drop in fuel economy...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Peter Frederick]

Turbo diesels get better milage for two reasons:

Better volumetric efficiency (higher effective compression ratio)

Better gearing (engine turns slower, so you get better torque usage).

They also produce more power, so you use power less time while  
accelerating, and you can get the same power from a smaller  
displacement engine, although this is much less of an issue for  
diesels than gassers since diesels aren't throttled and hence do not  
suffer from the very low charge density problems gassers have.


The difference is not huge, probably only a couple mpg.  Nicer to  
drive the diesel, though.  Diesel engines are fuel regulated, and you  
can tell if you drive at 55 mph vs 75 mph -- my milage on the 603  
drops from 30 plus for to and from work (max speed 60 mph) to around  
29 at 70 and 28.5 if I drive 75.  Faster than that, it drops to 27 or  
so.  More load means more fuel burned, and gearing doesn't have huge  
effects here.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Jim Cathey]

Hans the friendly Stuttgart taxi driver been happier with a turbo 123 
200D if it gets better mileage?


Under Hans' use patterns, perhaps it wouldn't.


diesels aren't throttled


My 200D is.  There is no mechanical connection between the
foot pedal and the IP.  It senses manifold vacuum.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Rolf]

We got turbos because we don't know how to drive a stick.

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Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

So you're saying that a Diesel spinning at 3000 will not use any more 
than one spinning at 2500?
Next question is why,if turbo Diesels are so efficient, did no one apart 
from the US and Japan get early turbo Diesels. I can think of cost to 
build and public acceptance as being a couple of factors, however 
wouldn't have Hans the friendly Stuttgart taxi driver been happier with 
a turbo 123 200D if it gets better mileage?

Hendrik
who has to go any fix a fan in the kitchen

On 13/01/13 00:36, Curt Raymond wrote:
 That too but I've found by experimentation that rotational speed doesn't 
 have a whole lot to do with fuel usage in a diesel, not a direct link surely.

 A 300D N/A gets worse economy than a 300D turbo while having less power. 
 Diesel engines benefit from the turbo.
 Fred has my copy of the history of the Diesel engine, it explains it better 
 than I understand.

 -Curt


 Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:00:06 +1030
 From: Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model
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 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

 Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the turbo Diesel
 got different gearing?

 Hendrik
 who only has inefficient Diesels

 On 11/01/13 12:51, Curt Raymond wrote:
 Its not just performance, turbocharged diesels are more efficient. Look at 
 the 300D turbo vs the 240D. 1 extra cylinder, nearly double the horsepower, 
 ~5% drop in fuel economy...

 -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Hendrik and fay]

Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the turbo Diesel 
got different gearing?


Hendrik
who only has inefficient Diesels

On 11/01/13 12:51, Curt Raymond wrote:

Its not just performance, turbocharged diesels are more efficient. Look at the 
300D turbo vs the 240D. 1 extra cylinder, nearly double the horsepower, ~5% 
drop in fuel economy...

-Curt





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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Craig]

On Sat, 12 Jan 2013 13:00:06 +1030 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the turbo
 Diesel got different gearing?

Yes, and a different (lower) compression ratio, among other things.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Fmiser]

 Hendrik and fay wrote:

 Hmmnh, I'm trying to understand this concept. I take it the
 turbo Diesel got different gearing?

Yes.  But the real difference is the turbo.  By making use of
the exhaust heat to spin the turbine which force more air into
the engine, the efficiency increases.  That is, there is less
waste heat, so more of the energy in the fuel goes to turning
the flywheel and less goes out the tail pipe.

Therefore, a turbo-supercharged engine can generate more power
_and_ use less fuel.

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel

[Michael Canfield]

Pretty color though.

Mike
On Jan 9, 2013 11:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 A neighbor has one of these - same color.  For the life of me I can't
 understand why it isn't a turbo.  The car just screams BORING!

 On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
  I can take a look at this if someone is that desperate :)
 
  Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
  '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi)
 
 
  On 1/9/2013 5:36 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:
 
  This one is going to sell quick. If I had cash, I'd be on it.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Hendrik and fay]

This would be one of those first world problems? OMG why isn't that 
engine turbo charged?

I think the point here is fuel economy, you want exciting buy a V8.
The turbo version only put out 160 horses, not exactly speed of light 
material.

People don't buy Diesel cars for their performance.

Hendrik
who has a lot of first world problems

On 10/01/13 14:34, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

A neighbor has one of these - same color.  For the life of me I can't
understand why it isn't a turbo.  The car just screams BORING!




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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Actually it's 177

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 7:01 PM, Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com wrote:

 This would be one of those first world problems? OMG why isn't that engine 
 turbo charged?
 I think the point here is fuel economy, you want exciting buy a V8.
 The turbo version only put out 160 horses, not exactly speed of light 
 material.
 People don't buy Diesel cars for their performance.
 
 Hendrik
 who has a lot of first world problems
 
 On 10/01/13 14:34, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 A neighbor has one of these - same color.  For the life of me I can't
 understand why it isn't a turbo.  The car just screams BORING!
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[OK Don]

Aren't supposed to be watching strippers on Bourbon St. or at least
listening to jazz in Preservation Hall?

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 Actually it's 177

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

In houston now on the way back. 

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On Jan 10, 2013, at 8:04 PM, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Aren't supposed to be watching strippers on Bourbon St. or at least
 listening to jazz in Preservation Hall?
 
 On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 7:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:
 
 Actually it's 177
 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Curt Raymond]

Its not just performance, turbocharged diesels are more efficient. Look at the 
300D turbo vs the 240D. 1 extra cylinder, nearly double the horsepower, ~5% 
drop in fuel economy...

-Curt

Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:31:19 +1030
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model
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This would be one of those first world problems? OMG why isn't that 
engine turbo charged?
I think the point here is fuel economy, you want exciting buy a V8.
The turbo version only put out 160 horses, not exactly speed of light 
material.
People don't buy Diesel cars for their performance.

Hendrik
who has a lot of first world problems

On 10/01/13 14:34, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
 A neighbor has one of these - same color.  For the life of me I can't
 understand why it isn't a turbo.  The car just screams BORING!

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel snail model

[Craig]

On Fri, 11 Jan 2013 11:31:19 +1030 Hendrik and fay heni...@gmail.com
wrote:

 This would be one of those first world problems? OMG why isn't that 
 engine turbo charged?
 I think the point here is fuel economy, you want exciting buy a V8.

Yes, the point is fuel economy. In the OM617, at least, the turbo engine
gets better mileage.


Craig

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[MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel

[Rick Knoble]

This one is going to sell quick. If I had cash, I'd be on it. 

No affiliation, not mine, etc. 

http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/3532402998.html

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

Most likely a rust bucket 

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On Jan 9, 2013, at 5:36 PM, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

 This one is going to sell quick. If I had cash, I'd be on it. 
 
 No affiliation, not mine, etc. 
 
 http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/3532402998.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel

[dave walton]

Non-turbo. Save your money and get a 99 with ESP, but it will still rust.

On Wednesday, January 9, 2013, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

 Most likely a rust bucket

 Sent from my iPhone

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  This one is going to sell quick. If I had cash, I'd be on it.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel

[Mountain Man]

Kaleb wrote:
 Most likely a rust bucket

Guy that owns shop across street had this car - same year, same model.
 Spring perches rusted thru.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel

[Rolf]

Trees are green in Chicago this time of year?

-Rolf

On 1/9/2013 7:18 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

Kaleb wrote:

Most likely a rust bucket

Guy that owns shop across street had this car - same year, same model.
  Spring perches rusted thru.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel

[Benz Hogs]

I can take a look at this if someone is that desperate :)

Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
'98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi)

On 1/9/2013 5:36 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

This one is going to sell quick. If I had cash, I'd be on it.

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http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/3532402998.html

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Re: [MBZ] 97 E300 Diesel

[Andrew Strasfogel]

A neighbor has one of these - same color.  For the life of me I can't
understand why it isn't a turbo.  The car just screams BORING!

On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:45 PM, Benz Hogs benz-n-h...@gulseth.net wrote:
 I can take a look at this if someone is that desperate :)

 Luther   KB5QHUForest Park, IL
 '98 ML320 Max (159,xxx mi)


 On 1/9/2013 5:36 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

 This one is going to sell quick. If I had cash, I'd be on it.

 No affiliation, not mine, etc.

 http://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/3532402998.html

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