Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 21 Jan 2017 07:38:28 -0500 Larry Turner via Mercedes
 wrote:

> sorry to be dumb, but MAGA?

Make America Great Again


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎LarryT sez:

>‎sorry to be dumb, but MAGA?

Make America Great Again!

Rick 





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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

sorry to be dumb, but MAGA?

LarryT


On 01/18/2017 6:34 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Private loans are 8+ percent.
Federal guaranteed loans come nowhere
close t‎o covering the cost of college.

Don't ask how I ‎know.

My youngest is an EE student.
He bought a MAGA hat and took it back to school after break, just to piss off 
‎the liberal arts majors.

Rick ‎
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[clay via Mercedes]

As long as it is some of the older ammo.  Current cartridges are edging above 
$0.50 a round.   A slip of the scalpel would have been better.  VA docs around 
here are well know for less than optimal outcomes.

clay


> On Jan 19, 2017, at 2:45 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>> Tinman, BRADLEY Manning is still a dude. A messed up in the head with
>> psychiatric problems man who is most certainly not any type of Red pill or
>> MRA or MGTOW.
> Shoulda been hung. or shot.  Only 30¢ to eliminate the problem before he 
> decided he was an "it" and before obummer turned the traitor loose on us.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kyle, 

The Chairman Mao‎ Max was referring to is Tin.man. 

maontin@gmail.com 
Aka Mao
Aka tin.man. 

Confused?
Yeah. Me too. 

Several folks on this list now go by pseudonyms...

Rick 
Who knows tin.mans real given name. 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Yep. Truth.

Kyle

On Jan 19, 2017 5:45 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

>
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Tinman, BRADLEY Manning is still a dude. A messed up in the head with
>> psychiatric problems man who is most certainly not any type of Red pill or
>> MRA or MGTOW.
>>
> Shoulda been hung. or shot.  Only 30¢ to eliminate the problem before he
> decided he was an "it" and before obummer turned the traitor loose on us.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Kyle Arola via Mercedes wrote:

Tinman, BRADLEY Manning is still a dude. A messed up in the head with
psychiatric problems man who is most certainly not any type of Red pill or
MRA or MGTOW.
Shoulda been hung. or shot.  Only 30¢ to eliminate the problem before he 
decided he was an "it" and before obummer turned the traitor loose on us.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Oh, Red pill is the opposite of the 90's to current era bromance types.
More like men being men. Being the head of household, taking care of
themselves, placing themselves first, knocking the feminist modern woman
off her pedestal. The Mr. Cleaver of the modern age. Totally opposite of
the March on DC demanding rights for sissy boys sissified man of the
millennium

True, no women here and very few on the forums that I read having to do
with cars

Tinman, BRADLEY Manning is still a dude. A messed up in the head with
psychiatric problems man who is most certainly not any type of Red pill or
MRA or MGTOW.

No idea about the Comrade.

Kyle

On Jan 19, 2017 5:27 PM, "Mountain Man via Mercedes" 
wrote:

Max wrote:
> I think chairman Mao has cornered the market on "No illusions about his
> fellow man" on this list.

Eh? - Probably more like... dense / clueless - be honest, insult can
be weathered here, explain?
Masculine Men's movement? - count me out.  Is that like... BroForce?
or, a march-on-washington group action... yeah, still count me out.
OkieBenz is all very nice, entirely, and self moderated.  Maybe we
need some women DIY Benz women?  Did we ever have woman reading
okiebenz?  no, Chelsea Manning types don't cut it.
tin-man

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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> I think chairman Mao has cornered the market on "No illusions about his
> fellow man" on this list.

Eh? - Probably more like... dense / clueless - be honest, insult can
be weathered here, explain?
Masculine Men's movement? - count me out.  Is that like... BroForce?
or, a march-on-washington group action... yeah, still count me out.
OkieBenz is all very nice, entirely, and self moderated.  Maybe we
need some women DIY Benz women?  Did we ever have woman reading
okiebenz?  no, Chelsea Manning types don't cut it.
tin-man

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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I think chairman Mao has cornered the market on "No illusions about his
fellow man" on this list.

On January 18, 2017 7:44:35 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> It is also a huge segment of the masculine mens movement.
>
> Kyle
>
> On Jan 18, 2017 7:31 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
>  ‎Max ponders:
>>
>> ‎What's "the Red pill"?
>>>
>>
>>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
>>
>>  Rick
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[MG via Mercedes]

Lots of work here he does overtime a lot especially toward the 
end of a contract when the work is running late. Too bad he isn't 
very confidant about opening a business, given that he has two 
kids and a wife to keep going and no business skills at all I 
can't really blame him.


Manfred

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Sure, if theres lots of commercial work around, especially data centers and the 
like the demand will be up.I also suspect the average grunt doesn't make much. 
I know a guy who owns a fire sprinkler business. His sprinkler fitters make 
peanuts, $10-$15 an hour. The owner is rolling in the dough...
-Curt

  From: "trainpain2...@aol.com" <trainpain2...@aol.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:20 AM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers
   
That probably depends where you live. A friend of mine has been a 
commercial electrician working for the same company for 20 years 
no and gets paid less then $20 an hour.


Manfred

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

If I could go back and talk sense to myself I'd tell 18yo me to become a 
commercial electrician. Where I work we pay outrageous money to the guys who 
wire our machine rooms. One guy we use a lot is about 45, owns his own outfit 
with I think 3 or 4 trucks, he built it up over about 10 years from just doing 
his own thing to where he is now. He doesn't want/need to grow and plans to 
retire in about 10 years, sell the business for a million or more and hunt full 
time...
-Curt

  From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>

  Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

You know the government is always looking for the next\new way to bind

people to the system and make them tax paying wage slaves. Student loans
and the college requirement is just the latest in a long line of scandalous
rip offs.

I used to tell young men to join the military, no more. Now I suggest trade
school, welders, auto mechanics, plumbers, a.c. tech's. All great paying
jobs where they can remain debt free and live within their means.

All in all, if my job at the University of Florida was not paying for
school, I would not be attending.

Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone, but
apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are already
part\mostly there.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 4:56 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

True that.  Student loans are not discharged by bankruptcy.  Also, speaking
from firsthand experience (idiot grandson#2) these loans are handed out
with no regard for scholastic ability or likelihood of repayment.  The
interest rates are obscene (3.76-6.31%) for today's environment.  And these
loans are guaranteed by the government (that's us) so the lenders can't
lose, just like the home loans underwritten by Fannie May and Freddie Mac
or bundled and sold.  Is this a big and growing problem?  Just look at the
data:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGCCSAQ027S

I haven't been a student in a civilian university since the 80s so I don't
really know what goes on there.  But it's easy to conclude from many, many
reports that the liberal arts colleges have become the cesspool of higher
education.

Scott


-Original Message-
From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes

There is two ways of discharging student loan.
‎Pay it.
‎Die.
The student loan millstone around the necks of our youth is going nowhere
soon. More than likely, as aging boomers pass, their estates will be used
(garnished?) to pay off their children's student loans.

Rick




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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sure, if theres lots of commercial work around, especially data centers and the 
like the demand will be up.I also suspect the average grunt doesn't make much. 
I know a guy who owns a fire sprinkler business. His sprinkler fitters make 
peanuts, $10-$15 an hour. The owner is rolling in the dough...
-Curt

  From: "trainpain2...@aol.com" <trainpain2...@aol.com>
 To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>; Mercedes Discussion List 
<mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
 Sent: Thursday, January 19, 2017 10:20 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers
   
That probably depends where you live. A friend of mine has been a 
commercial electrician working for the same company for 20 years 
no and gets paid less then $20 an hour.

Manfred

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> If I could go back and talk sense to myself I'd tell 18yo me to become a 
> commercial electrician. Where I work we pay outrageous money to the guys who 
> wire our machine rooms. One guy we use a lot is about 45, owns his own outfit 
> with I think 3 or 4 trucks, he built it up over about 10 years from just 
> doing his own thing to where he is now. He doesn't want/need to grow and 
> plans to retire in about 10 years, sell the business for a million or more 
> and hunt full time...
> -Curt
> 
>      From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>  To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:42 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers
>    
> You know the government is always looking for the next\new way to bind
> people to the system and make them tax paying wage slaves. Student loans
> and the college requirement is just the latest in a long line of scandalous
> rip offs.
> 
> I used to tell young men to join the military, no more. Now I suggest trade
> school, welders, auto mechanics, plumbers, a.c. tech's. All great paying
> jobs where they can remain debt free and live within their means.
> 
> All in all, if my job at the University of Florida was not paying for
> school, I would not be attending.
> 
> Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone, but
> apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are already
> part\mostly there.
> 
> Kyle
> 
> On Jan 18, 2017 4:56 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> 
> True that.  Student loans are not discharged by bankruptcy.  Also, speaking
> from firsthand experience (idiot grandson#2) these loans are handed out
> with no regard for scholastic ability or likelihood of repayment.  The
> interest rates are obscene (3.76-6.31%) for today's environment.  And these
> loans are guaranteed by the government (that's us) so the lenders can't
> lose, just like the home loans underwritten by Fannie May and Freddie Mac
> or bundled and sold.  Is this a big and growing problem?  Just look at the
> data:
> https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGCCSAQ027S
> 
> I haven't been a student in a civilian university since the 80s so I don't
> really know what goes on there.  But it's easy to conclude from many, many
> reports that the liberal arts colleges have become the cesspool of higher
> education.
> 
> Scott
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>>
>> There is two ways of discharging student loan.
>> ‎Pay it.
>> ‎Die.
>> The student loan millstone around the necks of our youth is going nowhere
>> soon. More than likely, as aging boomers pass, their estates will be used
>> (garnished?) to pay off their children's student loans.
>>
>> Rick
>>
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[MG via Mercedes]

That probably depends where you live. A friend of mine has been a 
commercial electrician working for the same company for 20 years 
no and gets paid less then $20 an hour.


Manfred

Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

If I could go back and talk sense to myself I'd tell 18yo me to become a 
commercial electrician. Where I work we pay outrageous money to the guys who 
wire our machine rooms. One guy we use a lot is about 45, owns his own outfit 
with I think 3 or 4 trucks, he built it up over about 10 years from just doing 
his own thing to where he is now. He doesn't want/need to grow and plans to 
retire in about 10 years, sell the business for a million or more and hunt full 
time...
-Curt

  From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>

 Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers
   
You know the government is always looking for the next\new way to bind

people to the system and make them tax paying wage slaves. Student loans
and the college requirement is just the latest in a long line of scandalous
rip offs.

I used to tell young men to join the military, no more. Now I suggest trade
school, welders, auto mechanics, plumbers, a.c. tech's. All great paying
jobs where they can remain debt free and live within their means.

All in all, if my job at the University of Florida was not paying for
school, I would not be attending.

Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone, but
apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are already
part\mostly there.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 4:56 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

True that.  Student loans are not discharged by bankruptcy.  Also, speaking
from firsthand experience (idiot grandson#2) these loans are handed out
with no regard for scholastic ability or likelihood of repayment.  The
interest rates are obscene (3.76-6.31%) for today's environment.  And these
loans are guaranteed by the government (that's us) so the lenders can't
lose, just like the home loans underwritten by Fannie May and Freddie Mac
or bundled and sold.  Is this a big and growing problem?  Just look at the
data:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGCCSAQ027S

I haven't been a student in a civilian university since the 80s so I don't
really know what goes on there.  But it's easy to conclude from many, many
reports that the liberal arts colleges have become the cesspool of higher
education.

Scott


-Original Message-
From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes

There is two ways of discharging student loan.
‎Pay it.
‎Die.
The student loan millstone around the necks of our youth is going nowhere
soon. More than likely, as aging boomers pass, their estates will be used
(garnished?) to pay off their children's student loans.

Rick





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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Neo.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 7:31 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers
> 
> A reference to the choice Nero made in the movie The Matrix.
> 
> Blue pill, you go back to your version of reality like nothing happened.
> 
> Red pill, you see the world as it really is and everything changes for
you.
> You can never go back after taking the Red pill.
> 
> Kyle
> 
> On Jan 18, 2017 7:23 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes"
> <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > What's "the Red pill"?
> > --
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > '87 300TD
> > '95 E300
> >
> > On January 18, 2017 6:42:38 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for
> > >everyone, but apparently from what I read in these emails, most of
> > >you men are already part\mostly there.
> > >
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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ah, thanks.  Great movie!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On January 18, 2017 7:31:16 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>A reference to the choice Nero made in the movie The Matrix.
>
>Blue pill, you go back to your version of reality like nothing
>happened.
>
>Red pill, you see the world as it really is and everything changes for
>you.
>You can never go back after taking the Red pill.
>
>Kyle
>
>On Jan 18, 2017 7:23 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes"
>
>wrote:
>
>> What's "the Red pill"?
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
>>
>> On January 18, 2017 6:42:38 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for
>everyone,
>> >but
>> >apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are
>> >already
>> >part\mostly there.
>> >
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[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

It is also a huge segment of the masculine mens movement.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 7:31 PM, "Rick Knoble via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> ‎Max ponders:
>
> >‎What's "the Red pill"?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

‎Max ponders:

>‎What's "the Red pill"?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_pill_and_blue_pill

Rick 



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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

A reference to the choice Nero made in the movie The Matrix.

Blue pill, you go back to your version of reality like nothing happened.

Red pill, you see the world as it really is and everything changes for you.
You can never go back after taking the Red pill.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 7:23 PM, "Max Dillon via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> What's "the Red pill"?
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
>
> On January 18, 2017 6:42:38 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone,
> >but
> >apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are
> >already
> >part\mostly there.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

What's "the Red pill"?
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
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On January 18, 2017 6:42:38 PM EST, Kyle Arola via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone,
>but
>apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are
>already
>part\mostly there.
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If I could go back and talk sense to myself I'd tell 18yo me to become a 
commercial electrician. Where I work we pay outrageous money to the guys who 
wire our machine rooms. One guy we use a lot is about 45, owns his own outfit 
with I think 3 or 4 trucks, he built it up over about 10 years from just doing 
his own thing to where he is now. He doesn't want/need to grow and plans to 
retire in about 10 years, sell the business for a million or more and hunt full 
time...
-Curt

  From: Kyle Arola via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Cc: Kyle Arola <kylearola1...@gmail.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 6:42 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers
   
You know the government is always looking for the next\new way to bind
people to the system and make them tax paying wage slaves. Student loans
and the college requirement is just the latest in a long line of scandalous
rip offs.

I used to tell young men to join the military, no more. Now I suggest trade
school, welders, auto mechanics, plumbers, a.c. tech's. All great paying
jobs where they can remain debt free and live within their means.

All in all, if my job at the University of Florida was not paying for
school, I would not be attending.

Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone, but
apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are already
part\mostly there.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 4:56 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:

True that.  Student loans are not discharged by bankruptcy.  Also, speaking
from firsthand experience (idiot grandson#2) these loans are handed out
with no regard for scholastic ability or likelihood of repayment.  The
interest rates are obscene (3.76-6.31%) for today's environment.  And these
loans are guaranteed by the government (that's us) so the lenders can't
lose, just like the home loans underwritten by Fannie May and Freddie Mac
or bundled and sold.  Is this a big and growing problem?  Just look at the
data:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGCCSAQ027S

I haven't been a student in a civilian university since the 80s so I don't
really know what goes on there.  But it's easy to conclude from many, many
reports that the liberal arts colleges have become the cesspool of higher
education.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>
> There is two ways of discharging student loan.
> ‎Pay it.
> ‎Die.
> The student loan millstone around the necks of our youth is going nowhere
> soon. More than likely, as aging boomers pass, their estates will be used
> (garnished?) to pay off their children's student loans.
>
> Rick
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

You know the government is always looking for the next\new way to bind
people to the system and make them tax paying wage slaves. Student loans
and the college requirement is just the latest in a long line of scandalous
rip offs.

I used to tell young men to join the military, no more. Now I suggest trade
school, welders, auto mechanics, plumbers, a.c. tech's. All great paying
jobs where they can remain debt free and live within their means.

All in all, if my job at the University of Florida was not paying for
school, I would not be attending.

Take the Red pill and join the masculine side. It is not for everyone, but
apparently from what I read in these emails, most of you men are already
part\mostly there.

Kyle

On Jan 18, 2017 4:56 PM, "Scott Ritchey via Mercedes" 
wrote:

True that.  Student loans are not discharged by bankruptcy.  Also, speaking
from firsthand experience (idiot grandson#2) these loans are handed out
with no regard for scholastic ability or likelihood of repayment.  The
interest rates are obscene (3.76-6.31%) for today's environment.  And these
loans are guaranteed by the government (that's us) so the lenders can't
lose, just like the home loans underwritten by Fannie May and Freddie Mac
or bundled and sold.   Is this a big and growing problem?  Just look at the
data:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGCCSAQ027S

I haven't been a student in a civilian university since the 80s so I don't
really know what goes on there.  But it's easy to conclude from many, many
reports that the liberal arts colleges have become the cesspool of higher
education.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>
> There is two ways of discharging student loan.
> ‎Pay it.
> ‎Die.
> The student loan millstone around the necks of our youth is going nowhere
> soon. More than likely, as aging boomers pass, their estates will be used
> (garnished?) to pay off their children's student loans.
>
> Rick
>



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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Private loans are 8+ percent.
Federal guaranteed loans come nowhere 
close t‎o covering the cost of college. 

Don't ask how I ‎know. 

My youngest is an EE student. 
He bought a MAGA hat and took it back to school after break, just to piss off 
‎the liberal arts majors. 

Rick ‎
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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

"I've got a college degree but I still can't find a job"Whats your degree 
in?"Pre-Colombian left handed African lesbian studies"

-Curt

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Cc: Scott Ritchey <ritche...@nc.rr.com>
 Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2017 4:56 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers
   
True that.  Student loans are not discharged by bankruptcy.  Also, speaking 
from firsthand experience (idiot grandson#2) these loans are handed out with no 
regard for scholastic ability or likelihood of repayment.  The interest rates 
are obscene (3.76-6.31%) for today's environment.  And these loans are 
guaranteed by the government (that's us) so the lenders can't lose, just like 
the home loans underwritten by Fannie May and Freddie Mac or bundled and sold.  
Is this a big and growing problem?  Just look at the data:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGCCSAQ027S

I haven't been a student in a civilian university since the 80s so I don't 
really know what goes on there.  But it's easy to conclude from many, many 
reports that the liberal arts colleges have become the cesspool of higher 
education.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> 
> There is two ways of discharging student loan.
> ‎Pay it.
> ‎Die.
> The student loan millstone around the necks of our youth is going nowhere
> soon. More than likely, as aging boomers pass, their estates will be used
> (garnished?) to pay off their children's student loans.
> 
> Rick
> 



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Re: [MBZ] OT Student Loans, was Stealers

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

True that.  Student loans are not discharged by bankruptcy.  Also, speaking 
from firsthand experience (idiot grandson#2) these loans are handed out with no 
regard for scholastic ability or likelihood of repayment.  The interest rates 
are obscene (3.76-6.31%) for today's environment.  And these loans are 
guaranteed by the government (that's us) so the lenders can't lose, just like 
the home loans underwritten by Fannie May and Freddie Mac or bundled and sold.  
 Is this a big and growing problem?  Just look at the data:
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/FGCCSAQ027S

I haven't been a student in a civilian university since the 80s so I don't 
really know what goes on there.  But it's easy to conclude from many, many 
reports that the liberal arts colleges have become the cesspool of higher 
education.

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Rick Knoble via Mercedes
> 
> There is two ways of discharging student loan.
> ‎Pay it.
> ‎Die.
> The student loan millstone around the necks of our youth is going nowhere
> soon. More than likely, as aging boomers pass, their estates will be used
> (garnished?) to pay off their children's student loans.
> 
> Rick
> 



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