Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'd get those gas cans, those things are getting spendy these days. And 
the limb trimmer


--FT

On 5/22/23 9:26 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Listed a bunch of stuff this weekend. There is clearly a bottom feeder 
mentality on FBM.

I had a Hav-A-Hart squirrel trap that my Dad bought new decades ago. Never used 
it, still in the box. $10. Got a message, no haggling, guy came later in the 
day and picked it up.

I put a collection of two Troy Bilt weed wackers, one working, the other for 
parts, along with a boatload of accessories- two string trimmers, a blower, big 
hedge trimmer, limb trimmer (8” chain saw), edger, and an extension. $80 for 
the lot.

Crickets.

I don’t understand, the accessories themselves are worth far more. I can only 
assume the price is outside the range of bottom feeders.

I had some gas and diesel cans, too, that I listed for like $5. No activity on 
them, either.

-D



On May 20, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
wrote:

Depends. If you're selling something that attracts bottom feeders, like the 
rustbucket Focus I sold earlier in the year, you attract these idiots even on 
Craigslist.

I described the rust and the failed brakes, and said I did not believe it would be economical to make it roadworthy and was selling it for 
parts. People asked, "does it run?" "Yes, I said in the ad the engine and transmission are good." "Can I drive it 
home?" "well, it has no brakes, sooo no." "What if I'm careful?" "Are you serious?"

Then you agree to an offer that's barely above what the scrapper is offering 
and they still want to dicker over $20 or something and then they go silent.




On Sat, May 20, 2023, at 10:03, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between Genius and
Ignorance..?"
Dr. Einstein Without hesitation replied "There is no shortage of Ignorance."

Facebook Marketplace is the national repository of ignorance.
CraigsList:
Seller: I want to sell XXX , For XXX, click on the link to send me an
email, or see my phone number..
Buyer: Ring Ring.. Saw your ad on Craigslist and I want to buy what you
have, where can we meet and do business in the next hour?
Done and dusted..

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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Listed a bunch of stuff this weekend. There is clearly a bottom feeder 
mentality on FBM.

I had a Hav-A-Hart squirrel trap that my Dad bought new decades ago. Never used 
it, still in the box. $10. Got a message, no haggling, guy came later in the 
day and picked it up.

I put a collection of two Troy Bilt weed wackers, one working, the other for 
parts, along with a boatload of accessories- two string trimmers, a blower, big 
hedge trimmer, limb trimmer (8” chain saw), edger, and an extension. $80 for 
the lot.

Crickets.

I don’t understand, the accessories themselves are worth far more. I can only 
assume the price is outside the range of bottom feeders.

I had some gas and diesel cans, too, that I listed for like $5. No activity on 
them, either.

-D


> On May 20, 2023, at 1:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Depends. If you're selling something that attracts bottom feeders, like the 
> rustbucket Focus I sold earlier in the year, you attract these idiots even on 
> Craigslist.
> 
> I described the rust and the failed brakes, and said I did not believe it 
> would be economical to make it roadworthy and was selling it for parts. 
> People asked, "does it run?" "Yes, I said in the ad the engine and 
> transmission are good." "Can I drive it home?" "well, it has no brakes, sooo 
> no." "What if I'm careful?" "Are you serious?"
> 
> Then you agree to an offer that's barely above what the scrapper is offering 
> and they still want to dicker over $20 or something and then they go silent.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, May 20, 2023, at 10:03, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>> Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between Genius and
>> Ignorance..?"
>> Dr. Einstein Without hesitation replied "There is no shortage of Ignorance."
>> 
>> Facebook Marketplace is the national repository of ignorance.
>> CraigsList:
>> Seller: I want to sell XXX , For XXX, click on the link to send me an
>> email, or see my phone number..
>> Buyer: Ring Ring.. Saw your ad on Craigslist and I want to buy what you
>> have, where can we meet and do business in the next hour?
>> Done and dusted..
> 
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Depends. If you're selling something that attracts bottom feeders, like the 
rustbucket Focus I sold earlier in the year, you attract these idiots even on 
Craigslist.

I described the rust and the failed brakes, and said I did not believe it would 
be economical to make it roadworthy and was selling it for parts. People asked, 
"does it run?" "Yes, I said in the ad the engine and transmission are good." 
"Can I drive it home?" "well, it has no brakes, sooo no." "What if I'm 
careful?" "Are you serious?"

Then you agree to an offer that's barely above what the scrapper is offering 
and they still want to dicker over $20 or something and then they go silent.



On Sat, May 20, 2023, at 10:03, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between Genius and
> Ignorance..?"
> Dr. Einstein Without hesitation replied "There is no shortage of Ignorance."
>
> Facebook Marketplace is the national repository of ignorance.
> CraigsList:
> Seller: I want to sell XXX , For XXX, click on the link to send me an
> email, or see my phone number..
> Buyer: Ring Ring.. Saw your ad on Craigslist and I want to buy what you
> have, where can we meet and do business in the next hour?
> Done and dusted..

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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I'm looking to buy a new mountain bike, the vast majority of ads fail to 
mention the size of the bike. When you ask they say "Come try it, you'll like 
it." Well if it's smaller than a large I won't like it, that's why I want to 
know the size...
Curt

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  On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 9:15 AM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   I’m sure that the obsessions with 
phones has something to do with it, but more so it’s a matter of comprehension. 
It’s not like the ads are long or complex - the information is all there.

This is the post:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/256788820344724/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner=messenger_banner

Price is at the top where it always is.

Condition is clearly stated.

A number is the first thing in the ad. Detailed description with dimensions. 
Close with a location as well as the little map that FB provides.

Everything is there in clearly described text.

The only thing I can think of is that people who are scroungers just go through 
and click on everything they see, and if they get a response they go for it. I 
mean, why else would you get all the “Is this still available?” replies that 
ask questions whose answers are clearly stated in the listing?

One of the respondents asks, “Where are you in Lakeland?”  Whaaa???

I simply don’t get it. I think these people are brain damaged.

-D

On May 20, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally and 
completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a while but 
for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food restaurant and 
looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in the place was 
sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their phones. At that moment 
I thought about ripping the bandaid off and getting rid of my phone going back 
to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this from my phone.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…

I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an area 
in front of the house.

My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
(general) location.

I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:

“How many are there?”; and

“Where are you located?”

I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.

The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am inertested.  Will you deliver?

On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 11:04 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between Genius and
> Ignorance..?"
> Dr. Einstein Without hesitation replied "There is no shortage of
> Ignorance."
>
> Facebook Marketplace is the national repository of ignorance.
> CraigsList:
> Seller: I want to sell XXX , For XXX, click on the link to send me an
> email, or see my phone number..
> Buyer: Ring Ring.. Saw your ad on Craigslist and I want to buy what you
> have, where can we meet and do business in the next hour?
> Done and dusted..
>
>
> On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 7:47 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > They crave human contact
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On May 20, 2023, at 7:00 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > This, too. I gotta believe that there are loads of people who just
> > click on this stuff randomly with no intention of ever following through.
> > Why??
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >> On May 20, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Except 99% of them that send the us this available never respond
> again.
> > >>
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> >  On May 20, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Since FB auto populates the type your words in here area with “ is
> > this still available”, these people find it much easier to do one click
> to
> > engage, regardless of what the ad says, rather than having to type useful
> > words.
> > >>>
> > >>> AZBob
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>>
> >  On May 20, 2023, at 6:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  I’m sure that the obsessions with phones has something to do with
> > it, but more so it’s a matter of comprehension. It’s not like the ads are
> > long or complex - the information is all there.
> > 
> >  This is the post:
> > 
> > 
> >
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/256788820344724/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner=messenger_banner
> > 
> >  Price is at the top where it always is.
> > 
> >  Condition is clearly stated.
> > 
> >  A number is the first thing in the ad. Detailed description with
> > dimensions. Close with a location as well as the little map that FB
> > provides.
> > 
> >  Everything is there in clearly described text.
> > 
> >  The only thing I can think of is that people who are scroungers just
> > go through and click on everything they see, and if they get a response
> > they go for it. I mean, why else would you get all the “Is this still
> > available?” replies that ask questions whose answers are clearly stated
> in
> > the listing?
> > 
> >  One of the respondents asks, “Where are you in Lakeland?”  Whaaa???
> > 
> >  I simply don’t get it. I think these people are brain damaged.
> > 
> >  -D
> > 
> >  On May 20, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally
> and
> > completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a
> while
> > but for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food
> > restaurant and looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in
> > the place was sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their
> > phones. At that moment I thought about ripping the bandaid off and
> getting
> > rid of my phone going back to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this
> from
> > my phone.
> > 
> >  Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >  On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via
> > Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> >  Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
> > 
> >  I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and
> > as a result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go
> around
> > an area in front of the house.
> > 
> >  My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and
> > my (general) location.
> > 
> >  I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
> > 
> >  “How many are there?”; and
> > 
> >  “Where are you located?”
> > 
> >  I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
> > 
> >  The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing.
> > Really.
> > 
> >  -D
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Reporter: "Dr. Einstein, what is the difference between Genius and
Ignorance..?"
Dr. Einstein Without hesitation replied "There is no shortage of Ignorance."

Facebook Marketplace is the national repository of ignorance.
CraigsList:
Seller: I want to sell XXX , For XXX, click on the link to send me an
email, or see my phone number..
Buyer: Ring Ring.. Saw your ad on Craigslist and I want to buy what you
have, where can we meet and do business in the next hour?
Done and dusted..


On Sat, May 20, 2023 at 7:47 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> They crave human contact
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 20, 2023, at 7:00 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > This, too. I gotta believe that there are loads of people who just
> click on this stuff randomly with no intention of ever following through.
> Why??
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On May 20, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Except 99% of them that send the us this available never respond again.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On May 20, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Since FB auto populates the type your words in here area with “ is
> this still available”, these people find it much easier to do one click to
> engage, regardless of what the ad says, rather than having to type useful
> words.
> >>>
> >>> AZBob
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 20, 2023, at 6:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I’m sure that the obsessions with phones has something to do with
> it, but more so it’s a matter of comprehension. It’s not like the ads are
> long or complex - the information is all there.
> 
>  This is the post:
> 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/256788820344724/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner=messenger_banner
> 
>  Price is at the top where it always is.
> 
>  Condition is clearly stated.
> 
>  A number is the first thing in the ad. Detailed description with
> dimensions. Close with a location as well as the little map that FB
> provides.
> 
>  Everything is there in clearly described text.
> 
>  The only thing I can think of is that people who are scroungers just
> go through and click on everything they see, and if they get a response
> they go for it. I mean, why else would you get all the “Is this still
> available?” replies that ask questions whose answers are clearly stated in
> the listing?
> 
>  One of the respondents asks, “Where are you in Lakeland?”  Whaaa???
> 
>  I simply don’t get it. I think these people are brain damaged.
> 
>  -D
> 
>  On May 20, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally and
> completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a while
> but for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food
> restaurant and looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in
> the place was sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their
> phones. At that moment I thought about ripping the bandaid off and getting
> rid of my phone going back to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this from
> my phone.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
>  On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
>  Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
> 
>  I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and
> as a result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around
> an area in front of the house.
> 
>  My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and
> my (general) location.
> 
>  I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
> 
>  “How many are there?”; and
> 
>  “Where are you located?”
> 
>  I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
> 
>  The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing.
> Really.
> 
>  -D
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

They crave human contact

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2023, at 7:00 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This, too. I gotta believe that there are loads of people who just click on 
> this stuff randomly with no intention of ever following through. Why??
> 
> -D
> 
>> On May 20, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Except 99% of them that send the us this available never respond again. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On May 20, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Since FB auto populates the type your words in here area with “ is this 
>>> still available”, these people find it much easier to do one click to 
>>> engage, regardless of what the ad says, rather than having to type useful 
>>> words. 
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 20, 2023, at 6:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I’m sure that the obsessions with phones has something to do with it, but 
 more so it’s a matter of comprehension. It’s not like the ads are long or 
 complex - the information is all there.
 
 This is the post:
 
 https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/256788820344724/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner=messenger_banner
 
 Price is at the top where it always is.
 
 Condition is clearly stated.
 
 A number is the first thing in the ad. Detailed description with 
 dimensions. Close with a location as well as the little map that FB 
 provides.
 
 Everything is there in clearly described text.
 
 The only thing I can think of is that people who are scroungers just go 
 through and click on everything they see, and if they get a response they 
 go for it. I mean, why else would you get all the “Is this still 
 available?” replies that ask questions whose answers are clearly stated in 
 the listing?
 
 One of the respondents asks, “Where are you in Lakeland?”  Whaaa???
 
 I simply don’t get it. I think these people are brain damaged.
 
 -D
 
 On May 20, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally and 
 completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a 
 while but for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food 
 restaurant and looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in 
 the place was sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their 
 phones. At that moment I thought about ripping the bandaid off and getting 
 rid of my phone going back to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this from 
 my phone.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via 
 Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
 
 Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
 
 I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
 result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an 
 area in front of the house.
 
 My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
 (general) location.
 
 I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
 
 “How many are there?”; and
 
 “Where are you located?”
 
 I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
 
 The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

This, too. I gotta believe that there are loads of people who just click on 
this stuff randomly with no intention of ever following through. Why??

-D

> On May 20, 2023, at 9:56 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Except 99% of them that send the us this available never respond again. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Since FB auto populates the type your words in here area with “ is this 
>> still available”, these people find it much easier to do one click to 
>> engage, regardless of what the ad says, rather than having to type useful 
>> words. 
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2023, at 6:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’m sure that the obsessions with phones has something to do with it, but 
>>> more so it’s a matter of comprehension. It’s not like the ads are long or 
>>> complex - the information is all there.
>>> 
>>> This is the post:
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/256788820344724/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner=messenger_banner
>>> 
>>> Price is at the top where it always is.
>>> 
>>> Condition is clearly stated.
>>> 
>>> A number is the first thing in the ad. Detailed description with 
>>> dimensions. Close with a location as well as the little map that FB 
>>> provides.
>>> 
>>> Everything is there in clearly described text.
>>> 
>>> The only thing I can think of is that people who are scroungers just go 
>>> through and click on everything they see, and if they get a response they 
>>> go for it. I mean, why else would you get all the “Is this still 
>>> available?” replies that ask questions whose answers are clearly stated in 
>>> the listing?
>>> 
>>> One of the respondents asks, “Where are you in Lakeland?”  Whaaa???
>>> 
>>> I simply don’t get it. I think these people are brain damaged.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> On May 20, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally and 
>>> completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a while 
>>> but for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food 
>>> restaurant and looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in 
>>> the place was sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their 
>>> phones. At that moment I thought about ripping the bandaid off and getting 
>>> rid of my phone going back to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this from 
>>> my phone.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
>>> 
>>> I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
>>> result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an 
>>> area in front of the house.
>>> 
>>> My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
>>> (general) location.
>>> 
>>> I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
>>> 
>>> “How many are there?”; and
>>> 
>>> “Where are you located?”
>>> 
>>> I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
>>> 
>>> The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Except 99% of them that send the us this available never respond again. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2023, at 8:38 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Since FB auto populates the type your words in here area with “ is this 
> still available”, these people find it much easier to do one click to engage, 
> regardless of what the ad says, rather than having to type useful words. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 20, 2023, at 6:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I’m sure that the obsessions with phones has something to do with it, but 
>> more so it’s a matter of comprehension. It’s not like the ads are long or 
>> complex - the information is all there.
>> 
>> This is the post:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/256788820344724/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner=messenger_banner
>> 
>> Price is at the top where it always is.
>> 
>> Condition is clearly stated.
>> 
>> A number is the first thing in the ad. Detailed description with dimensions. 
>> Close with a location as well as the little map that FB provides.
>> 
>> Everything is there in clearly described text.
>> 
>> The only thing I can think of is that people who are scroungers just go 
>> through and click on everything they see, and if they get a response they go 
>> for it. I mean, why else would you get all the “Is this still available?” 
>> replies that ask questions whose answers are clearly stated in the listing?
>> 
>> One of the respondents asks, “Where are you in Lakeland?”  Whaaa???
>> 
>> I simply don’t get it. I think these people are brain damaged.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On May 20, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally and 
>> completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a while 
>> but for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food 
>> restaurant and looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in 
>> the place was sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their 
>> phones. At that moment I thought about ripping the bandaid off and getting 
>> rid of my phone going back to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this from 
>> my phone.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
>> 
>> I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
>> result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an 
>> area in front of the house.
>> 
>> My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
>> (general) location.
>> 
>> I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
>> 
>> “How many are there?”; and
>> 
>> “Where are you located?”
>> 
>> I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
>> 
>> The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Since FB auto populates the type your words in here area with “ is this still 
available”, these people find it much easier to do one click to engage, 
regardless of what the ad says, rather than having to type useful words. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2023, at 6:15 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I’m sure that the obsessions with phones has something to do with it, but 
> more so it’s a matter of comprehension. It’s not like the ads are long or 
> complex - the information is all there.
> 
> This is the post:
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/256788820344724/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner=messenger_banner
> 
> Price is at the top where it always is.
> 
> Condition is clearly stated.
> 
> A number is the first thing in the ad. Detailed description with dimensions. 
> Close with a location as well as the little map that FB provides.
> 
> Everything is there in clearly described text.
> 
> The only thing I can think of is that people who are scroungers just go 
> through and click on everything they see, and if they get a response they go 
> for it. I mean, why else would you get all the “Is this still available?” 
> replies that ask questions whose answers are clearly stated in the listing?
> 
> One of the respondents asks, “Where are you in Lakeland?”  Whaaa???
> 
> I simply don’t get it. I think these people are brain damaged.
> 
> -D
> 
> On May 20, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally and 
> completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a while 
> but for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food 
> restaurant and looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in the 
> place was sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their phones. At 
> that moment I thought about ripping the bandaid off and getting rid of my 
> phone going back to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this from my phone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
> 
> I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
> result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an 
> area in front of the house.
> 
> My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
> (general) location.
> 
> I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
> 
> “How many are there?”; and
> 
> “Where are you located?”
> 
> I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
> 
> The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I’m sure that the obsessions with phones has something to do with it, but more 
so it’s a matter of comprehension. It’s not like the ads are long or complex - 
the information is all there.

This is the post:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/256788820344724/?referralSurface=messenger_lightspeed_banner=messenger_banner

Price is at the top where it always is.

Condition is clearly stated.

A number is the first thing in the ad. Detailed description with dimensions. 
Close with a location as well as the little map that FB provides.

Everything is there in clearly described text.

The only thing I can think of is that people who are scroungers just go through 
and click on everything they see, and if they get a response they go for it. I 
mean, why else would you get all the “Is this still available?” replies that 
ask questions whose answers are clearly stated in the listing?

One of the respondents asks, “Where are you in Lakeland?”  Whaaa???

I simply don’t get it. I think these people are brain damaged.

-D

On May 20, 2023, at 9:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally and 
completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a while but 
for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food restaurant and 
looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in the place was 
sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their phones. At that moment 
I thought about ripping the bandaid off and getting rid of my phone going back 
to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this from my phone.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:

Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…

I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an area 
in front of the house.

My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
(general) location.

I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:

“How many are there?”; and

“Where are you located?”

I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.

The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, it’s really bad. I think it’s all tied to people now totally and 
completely addicted to their phones. I have always noticed this for a while but 
for some reason it really hit me yesterday. I was in a fast food restaurant and 
looked around as it was so quiet, every single customer in the place was 
sitting with their groups all in a trance glued to their phones. At that moment 
I thought about ripping the bandaid off and getting rid of my phone going back 
to a flip phone. And yes I am sending this from my phone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 20, 2023, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
> 
> I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
> result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an 
> area in front of the house.
> 
> My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
> (general) location.
> 
> I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
> 
> “How many are there?”; and
> 
> “Where are you located?”
> 
> I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
> 
> The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Of course they all did the “Is this still available?” thing, too. < facepalm > 
One of the three that responded also asked the price (which was clearly listed 
in the ad, too.)

-D

> On May 20, 2023, at 9:02 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What is you’re loest price?  Is this still available?
> 
> —FT
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On May 20, 2023, at 8:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
>> 
>> I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
>> result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an 
>> area in front of the house.
>> 
>> My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
>> (general) location.
>> 
>> I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
>> 
>> “How many are there?”; and
>> 
>> “Where are you located?”
>> 
>> I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
>> 
>> The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

What is you’re loest price?  Is this still available?

—FT

Sent from my iPad

> On May 20, 2023, at 8:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…
> 
> I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
> result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an 
> area in front of the house.
> 
> My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
> (general) location.
> 
> I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:
> 
> “How many are there?”; and
> 
> “Where are you located?”
> 
> I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.
> 
> The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] RANT: FB Marketplace

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yeah, I know, we’ve all heard this before, but…

I’m changing some landscaping in the front of the Florida house, and as a 
result I have a bunch of these border blocks that we used to go around an area 
in front of the house.

My Marketplace ad has the quantity, a description with pictures, and my 
(general) location.

I got four responses for these overnight. Three of the four ask:

“How many are there?”; and

“Where are you located?”

I responded to all, “Read the ad.” Two people got nasty with me.

The lack of intelligence of the general populace is disturbing. Really.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] /rant/ Facebook Sellers

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

 "Most men are of no more use in their lives but as machines for turning
food into excrement." - Leonardo di ser Piero da Vinci

On Sat, Jun 19, 2021 at 4:25 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> yes
>
> On 6/19/21 12:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > WTF is this? Are people just stupid?
>
> --
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Re: [MBZ] /rant/ Facebook Sellers

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yes

On 6/19/21 12:53 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

WTF is this? Are people just stupid?


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Re: [MBZ] /rant/ Facebook Sellers

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 It's like ghost pepper, a little bit goes a long way.
-Curt

On Saturday, June 19, 2021, 1:39:02 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Reporter, interviewing Albert Einstein. "Dr Einstein, what is the
difference between brilliance and stupidity?"
Einstein replies: "There is no shortage of stupidity."

It was true then, and it's true now.

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> > Are people just stupid?
>
> Yes.
> It doesn't appear to be getting any better either.
> But you already know that.
>
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Re: [MBZ] /rant/ Facebook Sellers

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, that is pretty typical.  I send messages to sellers asking 
questions that should be basic info in the ad already.  Crickets. I see 
they have read the message but no response.  There was a car that has 
been for sale locally for at least 2-3 months.  I messaged them and days 
later they respond that it is pending.  A month goes by and the ad is 
still there.  I message again asking if it sold or what.  Days later I 
get a response they are waiting for the buyer to do something or other.  
Here it is a month later ad is still there.


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FB sellers have to be of a class of human that is missing some sort of 
understanding or logic. Or maybe intelligence. To-wit, I am sharing some of my 
FB experiences for consideration and support of my theory:

“1 owner car” - I see a reference to an accident on the CF - “Before I owned 
it” - “But I thought it was a one owner car?” - “I’m a dealer in NY - because 
of that I don’t have to collect sales tax, so I can write up the invoice for 
something less so you don’t have to pay as much” - so not only are they lying, 
they want me to be complicit in tax fraud?

Clearly a sale by a old couple - I message them. Two days go by with no 
activity. I finally get a response -“Give us your email address and we’ll send 
a copy of the CF.”  I do so. Two days later they message again with their phone 
number. I call it and get voice mail. Ask for the CF, give my email address 
again. Crickets. I text with my email address, it goes through as they’ve got 
an iPhone and I can see the read confirmation.  Two days later - a text asking 
for my email address. I text it - again. A day later I get six or so discrete 
pictures of the CF pages texted to me.

Several sellers with ads less than a day old. I message both. A day later and 
the messages haven’t been read and of course, no response.

WTF is this? Are people just stupid?

Grrr.

/rant/

-D
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Re: [MBZ] /rant/ Facebook Sellers

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Reporter, interviewing Albert Einstein. "Dr Einstein, what is the
difference between brilliance and stupidity?"
Einstein replies: "There is no shortage of stupidity."

It was true then, and it's true now.

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> > Are people just stupid?
>
> Yes.
> It doesn't appear to be getting any better either.
> But you already know that.
>
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Re: [MBZ] /rant/ Facebook Sellers

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Are people just stupid?

Yes.
It doesn't appear to be getting any better either.
But you already know that.

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[MBZ] /rant/ Facebook Sellers

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

FB sellers have to be of a class of human that is missing some sort of 
understanding or logic. Or maybe intelligence. To-wit, I am sharing some of my 
FB experiences for consideration and support of my theory:

“1 owner car” - I see a reference to an accident on the CF - “Before I owned 
it” - “But I thought it was a one owner car?” - “I’m a dealer in NY - because 
of that I don’t have to collect sales tax, so I can write up the invoice for 
something less so you don’t have to pay as much” - so not only are they lying, 
they want me to be complicit in tax fraud?

Clearly a sale by a old couple - I message them. Two days go by with no 
activity. I finally get a response -“Give us your email address and we’ll send 
a copy of the CF.”  I do so. Two days later they message again with their phone 
number. I call it and get voice mail. Ask for the CF, give my email address 
again. Crickets. I text with my email address, it goes through as they’ve got 
an iPhone and I can see the read confirmation.  Two days later - a text asking 
for my email address. I text it - again. A day later I get six or so discrete 
pictures of the CF pages texted to me.

Several sellers with ads less than a day old. I message both. A day later and 
the messages haven’t been read and of course, no response.

WTF is this? Are people just stupid?

Grrr.

/rant/

-D
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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Kevin Kraly]

Thanks for the comments, Craig!  I guess I'll re-tire my comic relief for 
now.


Kevin in now frozen Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Craig McCluskey]

On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:30:42 -0600 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I don't have the itemized invoice yet. That will  come in the mail at
 the end of the month.

Oh.

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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[andrew strasfogel]

I never pay more than $60 ea. for new tires and they have always been
wonderful, whether Yokes, Sumitomo, Dunlops or some other Japanese or Korean
brand that starts with the letter A that I purchased form Just Tires.  The
industry is so compettive that you don't have to really worry anymore, IMHO.


On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote:

 On Mon, 15 Dec 2008 06:30:42 -0600 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I don't have the itemized invoice yet. That will  come in the mail at
  the end of the month.

 Oh.

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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Wonko the Sane]

I don't have the itemized invoice yet. That will  come in the mail at the
end of the month.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:42 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote:


 I was hoping you'd put the individual items' cost after the hyphen to let
 us know how much those things cost in your neck of the woods.



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[MBZ] rant about tires

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

OK, just bought brand new tires for the 190D, got another 190D that 
needs new tires.  The 140 diesel will need new tires soon.  The 140 I 
just picked up will need new tires if I keep it.  The trailer probably 
should have new tires.  The big dollar one is the truck, its going to 
need new tires real soon, almost down to the wear bars.  Those are 
expensive.  Crap.

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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Wonko the Sane]

I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 OK, just bought brand new tires for the 190D, got another 190D that needs
 new tires.  The 140 diesel will need new tires soon.  The 140 I just picked
 up will need new tires if I keep it.  The trailer probably should have new
 tires.  The big dollar one is the truck, its going to need new tires real
 soon, almost down to the wear bars.  Those are expensive.  Crap.
 --
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  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
  89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
  84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Kaleb C. Striplin]

holy CRAP, why would you spend that much on tires?  Are they made of gold?

Wonko the Sane wrote:

I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:


OK, just bought brand new tires for the 190D, got another 190D that needs
new tires.  The 140 diesel will need new tires soon.  The 140 I just picked
up will need new tires if I keep it.  The trailer probably should have new
tires.  The big dollar one is the truck, its going to need new tires real
soon, almost down to the wear bars.  Those are expensive.  Crap.
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 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Wonko the Sane]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=GoodyeartireModel=Assurance+TripleTred

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:05 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote:

 holy CRAP, why would you spend that much on tires?  Are they made of gold?



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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Kevin Kraly]

Sounds like re-tirement time to me.  My bike couldn't survive anymore since 
it was two tired!  My poor unicycle can't stand on his own at all!! :(:)D


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:55:51 -0600 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E.

What was the breakdown of the various elements of that cost?

   tires - 

   balancing - 

disposal fee - 

warranty - 

 tax - 

   ? - 


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 19:18:54 -0800 Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net
wrote:

 Sounds like re-tirement time to me.  My bike couldn't survive anymore
 since it was two tired!  My poor unicycle can't stand on his own at
 all!! :(:)D

Good one, Kevin! Shirley really liked it, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Wonko the Sane]

Everything except disposal fee -- I kept the old tires to give to Debbie's
brother (he is building a hot rod). Didn't get any special (road hazard?)
warranty other than the 80,000 mile warranty that comes with the tires. Yea,
they were pricey but should be the only tires I ever have to buy for the car
and they are supposed to be really good in snow and ice, plus perform well
on dry pavement. I spent probably $100 more than I would have spent for
budget tires, and it was worth the extra cost to me. And if the tires are
still good when the 300E dies, I will keep them to put on my next 300E.

On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote:

 On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:55:51 -0600 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E.

 What was the breakdown of the various elements of that cost?

   tires -

   balancing -

 disposal fee -

warranty -

 tax -

   ? -


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Craig McCluskey]

On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 22:12:41 -0600 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Everything except disposal fee -- I kept the old tires to give to
 Debbie's brother (he is building a hot rod). Didn't get any special
 (road hazard?) warranty other than the 80,000 mile warranty that comes
 with the tires. Yea, they were pricey but should be the only tires I
 ever have to buy for the car and they are supposed to be really good in
 snow and ice, plus perform well on dry pavement. I spent probably $100
 more than I would have spent for budget tires, and it was worth the
 extra cost to me. And if the tires are still good when the 300E dies, I
 will keep them to put on my next 300E.

I was hoping you'd put the individual items' cost after the hyphen to let
us know how much those things cost in your neck of the woods.


Craig


 On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com
 wrote:
 
  On Sun, 14 Dec 2008 20:55:51 -0600 Wonko the Sane
  don.b...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E.
 
  What was the breakdown of the various elements of that cost?
 
tires -
 
balancing -
 
  disposal fee -
 
 warranty -
 
  tax -
 
? -
 
 
  Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

[Tom Hargrave]

Good tires cost good money but cheap tires cost more in the long run
because you pay more to mount cheap tires more often.

Thanks, Tom
256-656-1924

-Original Message-
From: Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: 12/14/08 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] rant about tires

holy CRAP, why would you spend that much on tires?  Are they made of
gold?

Wonko the Sane wrote:
 I feel your pain. I recently dropped $630 for 4 tires for the 300E.
 
 On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin
ka...@striplin.netwrote:
 
 OK, just bought brand new tires for the 190D, got another 190D that
needs
 new tires.  The 140 diesel will need new tires soon.  The 140 I just
picked
 up will need new tires if I keep it.  The trailer probably should
have new
 tires.  The big dollar one is the truck, its going to need new tires
real
 soon, almost down to the wear bars.  Those are expensive.  Crap.
 --
 Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK
  92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL,
  89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2,
  84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D,
 http://www.okiebenz.com

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Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild

[Curt Raymond]

The, to and you are all short words.
To quote Stephen Wright, why is abbreviation such a long word?

-Curt


Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 00:36:22 -0600
From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
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It seems than at Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:51:48 -0600, Rich wrote:

 You need a nice single malt, pour a wee dram and sip it slowly
 while staring at the fire.

Probably

  I would suggest a Dalwhinnie or
 Balvenie Double Wood if you are wound up, a Lagavulin 16 if
 you are feeling a bit more mellow.  Repeat as needed.

Will you deliver? Can't wake the youngsters to take them along -
can't leave them behind. A trip to town involves more than 25
miles.

 But to answer your question, when those words are repeated
 over and over, at some point it becomes redundant to write
 them out.

That doesn't hold water. Words like the to you are
repeated way more than the particular technical names.

And if those abbreviations are not defined earlier in the post,
it tends to exclude anyone not steeped in the sub-culture of
Mercedes repair - rather than educating and encouraging them to
join in. And it makes me _think!_

My opinion. *smile*

-- Philip, off to find a fire or something.

   
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Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild

[Luther]

Wow, you ok up there?

Luther

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 21:40:08 -0600, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 ** Caution - rant ahead **

 What's with abbreviations only for the important words?

 
 If you are going to take the time to do all the other stuff
 you might as well do the LCA bushings too.
 
 You might need to
 find an indy to help with the ball joints, though some report
 having done them with the autoparts store rental bj presses.
 
 I have, but I spoke with Rusty on the phone today and his
 thoughts were that the U/L control arms and brake track rod
 can be done withOUT using a (and only THE) spring compressor.
 

 So why is it that an abbreviation gets used for the focal point
 of the sentence? All the other words are fully spelled out, but
 not the most important one - the core reason for the sentence.

 Why not:

 f yu going d all tos do t lower control arm bushings too.

 or

 Ih, I sw Rusty otp td his thoughts wtt upper and lower control arms a brake 
 track rod cbd without t spring compressor

 At least then if I misinterpret the abbreviation, it's for one
 of the filler words. I can still glean the useful data out of
 the sentence. But if I can't figure out what U/LCA  BTR mean -
 it's useless.

 --  end of rant. Philip (I feel better...)


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'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
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Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild

[Fmiser]

** Caution - rant ahead **

What's with abbreviations only for the important words?


 If you are going to take the time to do all the other stuff
 you might as well do the LCA bushings too.

 You might need to
 find an indy to help with the ball joints, though some report
 having done them with the autoparts store rental bj presses.

 I have, but I spoke with Rusty on the phone today and his
 thoughts were that the U/L control arms and brake track rod
 can be done withOUT using a (and only THE) spring compressor.


So why is it that an abbreviation gets used for the focal point
of the sentence? All the other words are fully spelled out, but
not the most important one - the core reason for the sentence.

Why not:

f yu going d all tos do t lower control arm bushings too.

or

Ih, I sw Rusty otp td his thoughts wtt upper and lower control arms a brake 
track rod cbd without t spring compressor

At least then if I misinterpret the abbreviation, it's for one
of the filler words. I can still glean the useful data out of
the sentence. But if I can't figure out what U/LCA  BTR mean -
it's useless.

--  end of rant. Philip (I feel better...)

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Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild

[Rich Thomas]

You need a nice single malt, pour a wee dram and sip it slowly while 
staring at the fire.  I would suggest a Dalwhinnie or Balvenie Double 
Wood if you are wound up, a Lagavulin 16 if you are feeling a bit more 
mellow.  Repeat as needed.

But to answer your question, when those words are repeated over and 
over, at some point it becomes redundant to write them out.

--R

Fmiser wrote:
 ** Caution - rant ahead **

 What's with abbreviations only for the important words?

 
   
 If you are going to take the time to do all the other stuff
 you might as well do the LCA bushings too.
 
 
   
 You might need to
 find an indy to help with the ball joints, though some report
 having done them with the autoparts store rental bj presses.
 
 
   
 I have, but I spoke with Rusty on the phone today and his
 thoughts were that the U/L control arms and brake track rod
 can be done withOUT using a (and only THE) spring compressor.
 
 

 So why is it that an abbreviation gets used for the focal point
 of the sentence? All the other words are fully spelled out, but
 not the most important one - the core reason for the sentence.

 Why not:

 f yu going d all tos do t lower control arm bushings too.

 or

 Ih, I sw Rusty otp td his thoughts wtt upper and lower control arms a brake 
 track rod cbd without t spring compressor

 At least then if I misinterpret the abbreviation, it's for one
 of the filler words. I can still glean the useful data out of
 the sentence. But if I can't figure out what U/LCA  BTR mean -
 it's useless.

 --  end of rant. Philip (I feel better...)

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Re: [MBZ] rant - was: 123 frontend rebuild

[Fmiser]

It seems than at Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:51:48 -0600, Rich wrote:

 You need a nice single malt, pour a wee dram and sip it slowly
 while staring at the fire.

Probably

  I would suggest a Dalwhinnie or
 Balvenie Double Wood if you are wound up, a Lagavulin 16 if
 you are feeling a bit more mellow.  Repeat as needed.

Will you deliver? Can't wake the youngsters to take them along -
can't leave them behind. A trip to town involves more than 25
miles.

 But to answer your question, when those words are repeated
 over and over, at some point it becomes redundant to write
 them out.

That doesn't hold water. Words like the to you are
repeated way more than the particular technical names.

And if those abbreviations are not defined earlier in the post,
it tends to exclude anyone not steeped in the sub-culture of
Mercedes repair - rather than educating and encouraging them to
join in. And it makes me _think!_

My opinion. *smile*

-- Philip, off to find a fire or something.

 Fmiser wrote:
  ** Caution - rant ahead **
 
  What's with abbreviations only for the important words?
 
  

  If you are going to take the time to do all the other stuff
  you might as well do the LCA bushings too.
  
  

  You might need to
  find an indy to help with the ball joints, though some
  report having done them with the autoparts store rental bj
  presses. 
  

  I have, but I spoke with Rusty on the phone today and his
  thoughts were that the U/L control arms and brake track rod
  can be done withOUT using a (and only THE) spring
  compressor. 
  
 
  So why is it that an abbreviation gets used for the focal
  point of the sentence? All the other words are fully spelled
  out, but not the most important one - the core reason for
  the sentence.
 
  Why not:
 
  f yu going d all tos do t lower control arm bushings
  too.
 
  or
 
  Ih, I sw Rusty otp td his thoughts wtt upper and lower
  control arms a brake track rod cbd without t spring
  compressor
 
  At least then if I misinterpret the abbreviation, it's for
  one of the filler words. I can still glean the useful data
  out of the sentence. But if I can't figure out what U/LCA
   BTR mean - it's useless.
 
  --  end of rant. Philip (I feel better...)

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[MBZ] Rant

[Rich Thomas]

Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West 
Houston.  Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her 
Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there.  So Fri I call 
the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the 
glass, came yesterday.  So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor) 
later it is fixed, she is happy.  But when I pick it up, I go look at it 
to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease, 
fingerprints, oily film on it.  I go in and ask the service person there 
if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean 
the glass.  The service person wants to know if I want them to detail 
the truck.  No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and 
some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it?  Oh, someone made a mistake, 
should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow.  You 
can't go find some windex and paper towels?  No, I can't leave.  How 
about that guy that just drove it out?  Oh, I can go try to find him if 
you want...  If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some 
glass cleaner and some towels?  Well if you come back tomorrow they will 
take care of it.  Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take 
another hour or two to deal with this?

By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken off.

10AM and no call yet from the service manager.  Am I crazy?  Are my 
expectations too high? 

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Bill]

I think theirs [of themselves] are too low.  A note to management might not
hurt.
BillR

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:03 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Rant

Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West 
Houston.  Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her 
Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there.  So Fri I call 
the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the 
glass, came yesterday.  So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor) 
later it is fixed, she is happy.  But when I pick it up, I go look at it 
to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease, 
fingerprints, oily film on it.  I go in and ask the service person there 
if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean 
the glass.  The service person wants to know if I want them to detail 
the truck.  No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and 
some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it?  Oh, someone made a mistake, 
should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow.  You 
can't go find some windex and paper towels?  No, I can't leave.  How 
about that guy that just drove it out?  Oh, I can go try to find him if 
you want...  If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some 
glass cleaner and some towels?  Well if you come back tomorrow they will 
take care of it.  Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take 
another hour or two to deal with this?

By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken off.

10AM and no call yet from the service manager.  Am I crazy?  Are my 
expectations too high? 

--R

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[LarryT]

If the servive manager hasn't call back, I;d call the general manager - if 
he doesnt respond find out who *his* boss is.

The few times a dealer worked on my cars they have washed the whole vehicle 
and vacuumed it also -

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- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:02 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Rant


 Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West
 Houston.  Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her
 Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there.  So Fri I call
 the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the
 glass, came yesterday.  So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor)
 later it is fixed, she is happy.  But when I pick it up, I go look at it
 to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease,
 fingerprints, oily film on it.  I go in and ask the service person there
 if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean
 the glass.  The service person wants to know if I want them to detail
 the truck.  No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and
 some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it?  Oh, someone made a mistake,
 should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow.  You
 can't go find some windex and paper towels?  No, I can't leave.  How
 about that guy that just drove it out?  Oh, I can go try to find him if
 you want...  If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some
 glass cleaner and some towels?  Well if you come back tomorrow they will
 take care of it.  Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take
 another hour or two to deal with this?

 By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken 
 off.

 10AM and no call yet from the service manager.  Am I crazy?  Are my
 expectations too high?

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Rich Thomas]

I talked to the service guy (I called him) and he was apologetic, did 
not know why it wasn't cleaned (or the whole car was not washed) offered 
an oil change.  I can do that myself quicker than I go there, wait, come 
home, deal with them, and I know it is actually done and correctly.  I 
suggested the service manager call me, which he did awhile ago, told me 
how good his tech was and that he did a good job, did not know why he 
did not finish it.  At this point I guess there is not a whole lot more 
to be said, but it still just really p's me off.  I need to get over it.

--R

LarryT wrote:
 If the servive manager hasn't call back, I;d call the general manager - if 
 he doesnt respond find out who *his* boss is.

 The few times a dealer worked on my cars they have washed the whole vehicle 
 and vacuumed it also -

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:02 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Rant


   
 Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West
 Houston.  Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her
 Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there.  So Fri I call
 the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the
 glass, came yesterday.  So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor)
 later it is fixed, she is happy.  But when I pick it up, I go look at it
 to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease,
 fingerprints, oily film on it.  I go in and ask the service person there
 if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean
 the glass.  The service person wants to know if I want them to detail
 the truck.  No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and
 some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it?  Oh, someone made a mistake,
 should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow.  You
 can't go find some windex and paper towels?  No, I can't leave.  How
 about that guy that just drove it out?  Oh, I can go try to find him if
 you want...  If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some
 glass cleaner and some towels?  Well if you come back tomorrow they will
 take care of it.  Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take
 another hour or two to deal with this?

 By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken 
 off.

 10AM and no call yet from the service manager.  Am I crazy?  Are my
 expectations too high?

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Mitch Haley]

I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure
out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag
and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have
done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or
even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Rich Thomas]

Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect 
among the proles.  There was only one service writer there, a woman, who 
appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone, 
etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled 
her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal 
with it)  and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem 
to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too.  Anyway, 
daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point.

Oh well, enough on this...

--R

Mitch Haley wrote:
 I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure
 out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag
 and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have
 done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or
 even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck. 
 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Luther]

No, you're not.  Call the General Manager NOW and tell him you're looking at 
Dodge and Ford because they have better customer service.  I deal with crap 
like this all the time at work.  Start the $#!T ball as high as you can and 
watch it roll down hill.

Luther

On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:02:53 -0600, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West
 Houston.  Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her
 Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there.  So Fri I call
 the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the
 glass, came yesterday.  So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor)
 later it is fixed, she is happy.  But when I pick it up, I go look at it
 to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease,
 fingerprints, oily film on it.  I go in and ask the service person there
 if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean
 the glass.  The service person wants to know if I want them to detail
 the truck.  No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and
 some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it?  Oh, someone made a mistake,
 should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow.  You
 can't go find some windex and paper towels?  No, I can't leave.  How
 about that guy that just drove it out?  Oh, I can go try to find him if
 you want...  If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some
 glass cleaner and some towels?  Well if you come back tomorrow they will
 take care of it.  Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take
 another hour or two to deal with this?

 By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken off.

 10AM and no call yet from the service manager.  Am I crazy?  Are my
 expectations too high?

 --R




-- 
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'87 300SDL (272,xxx mi) head case
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x58,xxx mi)
'82 300CD (166 kmi)
'82 300D  (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Zoltan Finks]

Sounds like you experienced the DMV Syndrome, which is defined as:
They think you need them and that they don't need you, so they don't
have to be nice.

Not trying to stir the embers, but I am a huge stickler for customer
service, and I would be ticked too. Just remember it probably wasn't
personal.

Brian

On 11/27/07, Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West
 Houston.  Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her
 Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there.  So Fri I call
 the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the
 glass, came yesterday.  So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor)
 later it is fixed, she is happy.  But when I pick it up, I go look at it
 to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease,
 fingerprints, oily film on it.  I go in and ask the service person there
 if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean
 the glass.  The service person wants to know if I want them to detail
 the truck.  No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and
 some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it?  Oh, someone made a mistake,
 should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow.  You
 can't go find some windex and paper towels?  No, I can't leave.  How
 about that guy that just drove it out?  Oh, I can go try to find him if
 you want...  If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some
 glass cleaner and some towels?  Well if you come back tomorrow they will
 take care of it.  Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take
 another hour or two to deal with this?

 By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken off.

 10AM and no call yet from the service manager.  Am I crazy?  Are my
 expectations too high?

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Dave H...]

Not only NO!  But H _ _ L NO you should not just get over it!  People 
getting over it is exactly what caused everyone to do away with I grew up 
believing was customer service.

Why should Wal Mart hire more cashiers when we are happy just gripping about 
standing in line?  Why should a service center bother cleaning a window when 
instead they could be earning more Got Ya bucks off another Joe?, etc. 
etc.  etc.

People tolerate the bad service and the companies save money it is a win/win 
situation for them.


Dave H...
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From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant

 I talked to the service guy (I called him) and he was apologetic, did
 not know why it wasn't cleaned (or the whole car was not washed) offered
 an oil change.  I can do that myself quicker than I go there, wait, come
 home, deal with them, and I know it is actually done and correctly.  I
 suggested the service manager call me, which he did awhile ago, told me
 how good his tech was and that he did a good job, did not know why he
 did not finish it.  At this point I guess there is not a whole lot more
 to be said, but it still just really p's me off.  I need to get over it.

 --R

 LarryT wrote:
 If the servive manager hasn't call back, I;d call the general manager - 
 if
 he doesnt respond find out who *his* boss is.

 The few times a dealer worked on my cars they have washed the whole 
 vehicle
 and vacuumed it also -

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
 PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
 .

 - Original Message - 
 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:02 AM
 Subject: [MBZ] Rant



 Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West
 Houston.  Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her
 Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there.  So Fri I call
 the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the
 glass, came yesterday.  So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor)
 later it is fixed, she is happy.  But when I pick it up, I go look at it
 to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease,
 fingerprints, oily film on it.  I go in and ask the service person there
 if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean
 the glass.  The service person wants to know if I want them to detail
 the truck.  No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and
 some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it?  Oh, someone made a mistake,
 should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow.  You
 can't go find some windex and paper towels?  No, I can't leave.  How
 about that guy that just drove it out?  Oh, I can go try to find him if
 you want...  If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some
 glass cleaner and some towels?  Well if you come back tomorrow they will
 take care of it.  Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take
 another hour or two to deal with this?

 By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken
 off.

 10AM and no call yet from the service manager.  Am I crazy?  Are my
 expectations too high?

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Rich Thomas]

You have a point there and I have to agree.  I was thinking some more 
about this, and reminded myself of taking the truck to them back a few 
months ago when the back glass blew out (design fault, recall on some 
but not all, same design).  I worked them a bit on replacing it (was 
gonna be like $900), kinda alluded to a conversation I had with my 
lawyer buddy about similar problems, and they got right on it, replaced 
it for free a couple days later.  They did not have to do that really 
(although I got the sense that they had been doing a lot of them not as 
recall but quietly acknowledging the problem), and did not give me much 
of a hard time, so I was thankful for that.

I guess things balance out, I have spent too many cycles obsessing 
already.  I sent an email to the head guy, will see if I hear back.  I 
might call him to whinge a bit, though at this point that is all it is 
cause I don't want to waste any more time with them or the issue.

--R

Dave H... wrote:
 Not only NO!  But H _ _ L NO you should not just get over it!  People 
 getting over it is exactly what caused everyone to do away with I grew up 
 believing was customer service.

 Why should Wal Mart hire more cashiers when we are happy just gripping about 
 standing in line?  Why should a service center bother cleaning a window when 
 instead they could be earning more Got Ya bucks off another Joe?, etc. 
 etc.  etc.

 People tolerate the bad service and the companies save money it is a win/win 
 situation for them.
   


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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Robert Rentfro]

Rich hit the nail on the head:

Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can
detect...

Bingo. Ethics, morals, or as a feller for work says, Give-a-shitedness is
rare these days.  It's sad. 

Bob R.




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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Robert Rentfro]

I'd take that right up the ladder. Chances are if you speak with someone on
site they won't give too much of a rip because idiots who treat customers
that way usually learned it from someone above them.

That would have made me flip.

Bob R.

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If the servive manager hasn't call back, I;d call the general manager - if 
he doesnt respond find out who *his* boss is.

The few times a dealer worked on my cars they have washed the whole vehicle 
and vacuumed it also -

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- Original Message - 
From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:02 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Rant


 Thanksgiving morning early my wife went cycling at this park in West
 Houston.  Some sh*thead smashed the passenger side window in her
 Suburban, stole her phone, purse, etc. she left in there.  So Fri I call
 the dealer to see if they could do a replacement, they had to order the
 glass, came yesterday.  So I take the truck in, $400some ($200 labor)
 later it is fixed, she is happy.  But when I pick it up, I go look at it
 to make sure everything done OK, and the glass is filthy -- grease,
 fingerprints, oily film on it.  I go in and ask the service person there
 if it was expecting too much that for $400some they might think to clean
 the glass.  The service person wants to know if I want them to detail
 the truck.  No, maybe someone could get a couple of paper towels and
 some windex and take 3 minutes to clean it?  Oh, someone made a mistake,
 should have washed it, but they are gone now, call back tomorrow.  You
 can't go find some windex and paper towels?  No, I can't leave.  How
 about that guy that just drove it out?  Oh, I can go try to find him if
 you want...  If you can go try to find him, how about just finding some
 glass cleaner and some towels?  Well if you come back tomorrow they will
 take care of it.  Why would I want to come back here tomorrow, take
 another hour or two to deal with this?

 By then the daughter unit, who came with me to drive it home, has taken 
 off.

 10AM and no call yet from the service manager.  Am I crazy?  Are my
 expectations too high?

 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[LarryT]

Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread  problem I 
fear -

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant


 Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect
 among the proles.  There was only one service writer there, a woman, who
 appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone,
 etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled
 her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal
 with it)  and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem
 to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too.  Anyway,
 daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point.

 Oh well, enough on this...

 --R

 Mitch Haley wrote:
 I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure
 out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag
 and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have
 done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or
 even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck.
 Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[R A Bennell]

Around here a lot of government offices have notices on the counter that 
essentially say our staff does not have to
put up with you yelling or using obscenities etc., and will not do so. Being a 
customer service person in many of
these places means you deal with a lot of the crazies out there and take a fair 
amount of personal abuse. My wife
works in the main library at the university here and she occasionally has to 
tell a patron that they are out of
line and that she won't serve them so long as they insist upon being abusive. 
They usually go off in a huff but
come back hanging their head after calming down.
So, I think that when normal people deal with some of the counter folks, the 
counter folk are often ready for a
rampage because it just happens too often.

Randy

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Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:16 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant


Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the
customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant,
respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city.
Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an
example.

When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several
years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one
gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more
sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black
cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts
with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less
saying hello.

I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I
simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and
the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me.
When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was,
all he had to say was aint gonna happen. I had to tell him to give
me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to
ask - so just do it! He replied excuse me? did you just tell me just
do it?!!

The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat
customers that way - he held the power.

The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular
little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN.
They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial
and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance.

Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic
title is rant.

Brian

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 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant


  Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect
  among the proles.  There was only one service writer there, a woman, who
  appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone,
  etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled
  her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal
  with it)  and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem
  to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too.  Anyway,
  daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point.
 
  Oh well, enough on this...
 
  --R
 
  Mitch Haley wrote:
  I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure
  out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag
  and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have
  done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or
  even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck.
  Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Zoltan Finks]

Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the
customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant,
respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city.
Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an
example.

When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several
years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one
gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more
sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black
cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts
with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less
saying hello.

I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I
simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and
the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me.
When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was,
all he had to say was aint gonna happen. I had to tell him to give
me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to
ask - so just do it! He replied excuse me? did you just tell me just
do it?!!

The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat
customers that way - he held the power.

The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular
little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN.
They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial
and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance.

Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic
title is rant.

Brian

On 11/27/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread  problem I
 fear -

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 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant


  Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect
  among the proles.  There was only one service writer there, a woman, who
  appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone,
  etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled
  her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal
  with it)  and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem
  to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too.  Anyway,
  daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point.
 
  Oh well, enough on this...
 
  --R
 
  Mitch Haley wrote:
  I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure
  out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag
  and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have
  done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or
  even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck.
  Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[R A Bennell]

The thing that I find even more disturbing is the effort that they put out to 
convince you that they do provide
good service and care etc.

A few years ago I had my old Suburban repaired after a minor accident. I took 
it to a local body shop that I had no
experience with but had heard good things about.

The fellow took me out to the vehicle after they called to advise it was ready 
and I went to pick it up. They did a
lousy job of the repair. The front bumper was not mounted straight. I called it 
to his attention and he gave me
some line of bull that Chevy's are like that and there is nothing they could do 
about it. I said give me a few
minutes with a die grinder to elongate the holes and I will fix it myself. He 
remained adamant that they could do
nothing. There was also a small dent in the leading face of the hood. I 
commented that they hadn't repaired it. He
then stated that was not part of the job or some such nonsense. It certainly 
was as it was caused by the same
accident that put me in their shop in the first place. By then I was angry 
enough to tell him to stick it in his
ear and leave. The vehicle was old and imperfect anyway but it still made me 
annoyed to think that they hadn't done
a good job but wanted me to pat them on the back anyway. When I got in the 
truck there was a card on the dash that
said they had kept the interior clean and had not changed the settings on the 
seat or the radio etc as a courtesy
to me. There was also a survey form that they wanted me to return to them to 
tell them if they were doing a good
job. A few days later a nice young lady called to ask me in a cheery voice if 
everything was ok and if I was still
happy with their work. She hadn't a clue what to say when I suggested she speak 
to the fellow who had taken me out
to the truck about my complaints at the time that they hadn't done a good job 
and his denial of the facts. They
haven't called again and I won't go near the place again. Unfortunately, I 
think a lot of these places sell
themselves to stupid people by kissing the proverbial you know what. Then 
people go around saying how nice these
folks are and that leaves poor suckers like me thinking that they do good work. 
Go ahead and smmooze me if you must
but fix things properly or you are wasting your time.

Randy

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To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant




Rich hit the nail on the head:

Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can
detect...

Bingo. Ethics, morals, or as a feller for work says, Give-a-shitedness is
rare these days.  It's sad.

Bob R.




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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Hendrik Fay]

The basic problem is that people don't take pride in their work anymore, 
just do the basics and then expect a big fat pay cheque.
You can bet your boots that the person who did the sloppy window 
installation would scream blue murder if it happened to them, easy to 
see faults in others but hard to see own faults.

Hendrik
who operates on a do the job 100% or don't do it principle, that way 
nothing gets done

Robert Rentfro wrote:
 I'd take that right up the ladder. Chances are if you speak with someone on
 site they won't give too much of a rip because idiots who treat customers
 that way usually learned it from someone above them.

 That would have made me flip.

 Bob R.

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Timothy Robinson]

Again with my 2 cents...

I hear it all the time, Well, that's what you get now-a-days. I'm sorry,
that's what some people accept now-a-days.

It seems many tradesmen don't take pride in their work. It's all about the
pay. Satisfaction and pride have nothing to do with it. Well sorry, last
general contractor who wanted me to cut corners (as he does) I had just this
conversation and I wound up refusing to sub for him anymore. His wife called
saying I had hurt his feelings because I told him I was ashamed to be
associated with his work.

Those of us who actually find a sense of accomplishment in our work are
often called compulsive or anal retentive. I've been told They have pills
for that you know. Nobody's gonna see the wire after the walls are up.

Word of mouth still goes a long way and I have a big mouth and a long
memory. Gary's Automotive in Candler, Gary and son, Todd are some of the
finest MB indies I've known. People like them I want to give business to for
I want them to make well and be rewarded for good service!

 

 on 11/27/07 5:15 PM, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the
 customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant,
 respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city.
 Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an
 example.
 
 When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several
 years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one
 gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more
 sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black
 cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts
 with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less
 saying hello.
 
 I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I
 simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and
 the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me.
 When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was,
 all he had to say was aint gonna happen. I had to tell him to give
 me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to
 ask - so just do it! He replied excuse me? did you just tell me just
 do it?!!
 
 The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat
 customers that way - he held the power.
 
 The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular
 little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN.
 They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial
 and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance.
 
 Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic
 title is rant.
 
 Brian
 
 On 11/27/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread  problem I
 fear -
 
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 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant
 
 
 Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect
 among the proles.  There was only one service writer there, a woman, who
 appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone,
 etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled
 her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal
 with it)  and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem
 to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too.  Anyway,
 daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point.
 
 Oh well, enough on this...
 
 --R
 
 Mitch Haley wrote:
 I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure
 out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag
 and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have
 done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or
 even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck.
 Mitch.
 
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[LarryT]

I went thru a similar situation with my 300D recently.  Had the tires 
rotated and the front end aligned.  When they put the lugs on they were 
wy to tight.  When I got home I couldn;t break them loose.  Took it back 
to the shop and a huge guy came around with a torque wrench (clicker type) 
and he wanted to prove he did it right - loosened one, and tightened it - 
pulled it until it clicked and continued another 1/8 turn or so, then gave 
it another pull for good measure for a total of 1/4 turn extra.  Instead of 
~90 #s it was probably closer to 120 or more.

I started to show him how to use a torque wrench but his attitude told me he 
didn;t want anyone to show him the right way.When he warps someones 
expensive rotors maybe he'll listen.

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant


 The basic problem is that people don't take pride in their work anymore,
 just do the basics and then expect a big fat pay cheque.
 You can bet your boots that the person who did the sloppy window
 installation would scream blue murder if it happened to them, easy to
 see faults in others but hard to see own faults.

 Hendrik
 who operates on a do the job 100% or don't do it principle, that way
 nothing gets done

 Robert Rentfro wrote:
 I'd take that right up the ladder. Chances are if you speak with someone 
 on
 site they won't give too much of a rip because idiots who treat customers
 that way usually learned it from someone above them.

 That would have made me flip.

 Bob R.

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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Timothy Robinson]

on 11/27/07 5:24 PM, R A Bennell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Every new restaurant that opens seems like there's a line out the door of
people waiting. The herds follow. Used to be that after a time of service
and food like s%#t those places would fold. I'm amazed today that some
places stay in business.

If we think a service is unacceptable we're the odd one's with the problem?
Duh! Sadly it's not just service businesses or product quality. It's in
politics too!!!  That's what you get now-a-days.


 The thing that I find even more disturbing is the effort that they put out to
 convince you that they do provide
 good service and care etc.
 
 A few years ago I had my old Suburban repaired after a minor accident. I took
 it to a local body shop that I had no
 experience with but had heard good things about.
 
 The fellow took me out to the vehicle after they called to advise it was ready
 and I went to pick it up. They did a
 lousy job of the repair. The front bumper was not mounted straight. I called
 it to his attention and he gave me
 some line of bull that Chevy's are like that and there is nothing they could
 do about it. I said give me a few
 minutes with a die grinder to elongate the holes and I will fix it myself. He
 remained adamant that they could do
 nothing. There was also a small dent in the leading face of the hood. I
 commented that they hadn't repaired it. He
 then stated that was not part of the job or some such nonsense. It certainly
 was as it was caused by the same
 accident that put me in their shop in the first place. By then I was angry
 enough to tell him to stick it in his
 ear and leave. The vehicle was old and imperfect anyway but it still made me
 annoyed to think that they hadn't done
 a good job but wanted me to pat them on the back anyway. When I got in the
 truck there was a card on the dash that
 said they had kept the interior clean and had not changed the settings on the
 seat or the radio etc as a courtesy
 to me. There was also a survey form that they wanted me to return to them to
 tell them if they were doing a good
 job. A few days later a nice young lady called to ask me in a cheery voice if
 everything was ok and if I was still
 happy with their work. She hadn't a clue what to say when I suggested she
 speak to the fellow who had taken me out
 to the truck about my complaints at the time that they hadn't done a good job
 and his denial of the facts. They
 haven't called again and I won't go near the place again. Unfortunately, I
 think a lot of these places sell
 themselves to stupid people by kissing the proverbial you know what. Then
 people go around saying how nice these
 folks are and that leaves poor suckers like me thinking that they do good
 work. Go ahead and smmooze me if you must
 but fix things properly or you are wasting your time.
 
 Randy
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert Rentfro
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:02 PM
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant
 
 
 
 
 Rich hit the nail on the head:
 
 Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can
 detect...
 
 Bingo. Ethics, morals, or as a feller for work says, Give-a-shitedness is
 rare these days.  It's sad.
 
 Bob R.
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Timothy Robinson]

I you lose your temper when you have a complaint, you've lost. You're
complaint is no longer valid. Best to approach it with the gentle art of
verbal defense remaining calmly focused on the actual complaint and how it
is going to be resolved. It can't become a personal offensive/defensive
thing no matter how much you want to question the person's lineage and
reason for existence.

on 11/27/07 5:30 PM, R A Bennell at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Around here a lot of government offices have notices on the counter that
 essentially say our staff does not have to
 put up with you yelling or using obscenities etc., and will not do so. Being a
 customer service person in many of
 these places means you deal with a lot of the crazies out there and take a
 fair amount of personal abuse. My wife
 works in the main library at the university here and she occasionally has to
 tell a patron that they are out of
 line and that she won't serve them so long as they insist upon being abusive.
 They usually go off in a huff but
 come back hanging their head after calming down.
 So, I think that when normal people deal with some of the counter folks, the
 counter folk are often ready for a
 rampage because it just happens too often.
 
 Randy
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zoltan Finks
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 4:16 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant
 
 
 Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the
 customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant,
 respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city.
 Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an
 example.
 
 When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several
 years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one
 gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more
 sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black
 cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts
 with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less
 saying hello.
 
 I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I
 simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and
 the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me.
 When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was,
 all he had to say was aint gonna happen. I had to tell him to give
 me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to
 ask - so just do it! He replied excuse me? did you just tell me just
 do it?!!
 
 The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat
 customers that way - he held the power.
 
 The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular
 little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN.
 They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial
 and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance.
 
 Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic
 title is rant.
 
 Brian
 
 On 11/27/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread  problem I
 fear -
 
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 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
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 - Original Message -
 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant
 
 
 Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can detect
 among the proles.  There was only one service writer there, a woman, who
 appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone,
 etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it baffled
 her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just deal
 with it)  and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't seem
 to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too.  Anyway,
 daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point.
 
 Oh well, enough on this...
 
 --R
 
 Mitch Haley wrote:
 I don't know who you talked to wheh you picked it up, but I can't figure
 out why that person didn't just grab a bottle of something and a rag
 and clean your window right then and there. It's what I would have
 done, and it wouldn't have mattered if I was a manager, a writer, or
 even a mechanic who had nothing to do with your truck.
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Rant

[Dave H...]

After attaining a Mater's degree to assist people in helping themselves 
(therapist) and working for three years in the field I walked away and will 
never return again.

Why?  Pride in workmanship.  I refused to play the games that administration 
wanted played concerning client confidentiality.

Now that same administration has black balled me and I could not get a job 
even if they were in desperate need.

My final take?  I know that what I did was the right thing to do.  I wake up 
every morning feeling good about life in general.

Will I ever make a huge difference to the world?  Absolutely not!  BUT, my 
decision to say SCR _ _  You All (the administration) has left me feeling 
good about myself.   :)

Pride in whatever it is I do day to day and happy doing so.   :)


Dave H...


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From: Timothy Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 5:59 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant

 Again with my 2 cents...

 I hear it all the time, Well, that's what you get now-a-days. I'm sorry,
 that's what some people accept now-a-days.

 It seems many tradesmen don't take pride in their work. It's all about the
 pay. Satisfaction and pride have nothing to do with it. Well sorry, last
 general contractor who wanted me to cut corners (as he does) I had just 
 this
 conversation and I wound up refusing to sub for him anymore. His wife 
 called
 saying I had hurt his feelings because I told him I was ashamed to be
 associated with his work.

 Those of us who actually find a sense of accomplishment in our work are
 often called compulsive or anal retentive. I've been told They have pills
 for that you know. Nobody's gonna see the wire after the walls are up.

 Word of mouth still goes a long way and I have a big mouth and a long
 memory. Gary's Automotive in Candler, Gary and son, Todd are some of the
 finest MB indies I've known. People like them I want to give business to 
 for
 I want them to make well and be rewarded for good service!



 on 11/27/07 5:15 PM, Zoltan Finks at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Yeah, it's a funny thing - there's like a balance of power between the
 customer and the provider. And it runs the gamut from a pleasant,
 respectful cahsier to what you'll get at the DMV in any big city.
 Doesn't have to be the dept. of motor vehicles though - that's just an
 example.

 When I visited the Phx. area recently after living in MN for several
 years, I was reminded all too quickly by the rental car guy how one
 gets treated there. And as much as I don't want to offend the more
 sensitive among us - face it - in most places, if you have a Black
 cashier, you just need to brace yourself for the attitude. It starts
 with them not even acknowledging you or looking at you, much less
 saying hello.

 I recall one confrontation at the Olkahoma City Greyhound station. I
 simply and courteosly stated that I had not received an itinerary, and
 the big guy behind the counter acted like he wanted to assault me.
 When I asked what their policy on getting a refund for my ticket was,
 all he had to say was aint gonna happen. I had to tell him to give
 me the itinerary and to get his manger and that it was not too much to
 ask - so just do it! He replied excuse me? did you just tell me just
 do it?!!

 The point is the guy knew from experience that he could treat
 customers that way - he held the power.

 The most amazing experiences I have had have been one particular
 little independetly-run vehicle licensing office in Rochester, MN.
 They were always respectful and helpful and most of the time jovial
 and downright friendly. Now there was a proper power balance.

 Okay, I told you I was a stickler on this. Fortunately, the topic
 title is rant.

 Brian

 On 11/27/07, LarryT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Sounds like some Prima Donna attitude was present - widespread  problem 
 I
 fear -

 Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D)
 www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts
 Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil
 PORSCHE POSTERS!  youroil.net
 Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs
 .

 - Original Message -
 From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 12:58 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant


 Exactly.  There is no service ethic anywhere, anymore, that I can 
 detect
 among the proles.  There was only one service writer there, a woman, 
 who
 appeared to be marginally competent but could not leave her desk/phone,
 etc (though she did say she could go try to find someone, but it 
 baffled
 her when I suggested if she could do that then maybe she could just 
 deal
 with it)  and the checkout chicas barely hablaed anglais and didn't 
 seem
 to understand why this was an issue, so that was a waste too.  Anyway,
 daughter unit had taken off by then, so moot issue at that point.

 Oh well, enough on this...

 --R

[MBZ] rant Lost a great one!

[Loren Faeth]

idiots in the news media don't even know how to pronounce Wally Schirra's name

/rant

Farewell Mr. Schirra!  You were an inspiration to at least a generation!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_SchirraWalter M. Schirra - 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury-Atlas_8Mercury-Atlas 8, 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_6AGemini 6A, 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_7Apollo 7 (deceased)


now there are two!

Salute!



Loren Faeth 
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They should have put a Cummins in their trucks anyway!  Their trucks are 
pretty good (I had a 1999 F350 crew cab PSD).  I like the 610Lb/Ft of torque 
and 325hp in the '06 dodge.  MB content:  It doesn't ride as smooth and 
isn't as quiet as the 300SD.


Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula 

Re: [MBZ] rant Lost a great one!

[Bob Rentfro]

What about Tommy Neusom...and Tom Poston

Bob R


- Original Message - 
From: Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2007 11:08 AM
Subject: [MBZ] rant Lost a great one!


idiots in the news media don't even know how to pronounce Wally Schirra's 
name


/rant

Farewell Mr. Schirra!  You were an inspiration to at least a generation!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wally_SchirraWalter M. Schirra -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury-Atlas_8Mercury-Atlas 8,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_6AGemini 6A,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_7Apollo 7 (deceased)

now there are two!

Salute!



Loren Faeth
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[MBZ] Rant about driver door window switches-300D's

[Marshall Field]

I am asking the group for some collective wisdom about how to get more
service life out of these switches.   I live in Arizona, where you typically
have the windows rolled up the majority of the year.   Yet, every 16 months,
for the past 15 years, on each of my three 300D's, I have had to buy a new
switch.

Usually what happens is that the rocker action becomes sticky, then the
switch literally flies apart into your hand  on one of the next cycles.

At nearly a hundred bux a pop from Rusty, it seems to me that there should
be something from a maintenance standpoint that could be done to get some
more service life out of these switches.

Anyone have some suggestions?

Marshall in Feenix   '77 300D, '81 300TD, '85 300DT (Kalifornia)

Re: [MBZ] Rant about driver door window switches-300D's

[Sunil Hari]

I always disassemble them and spray liberally with contact cleaner.  Seems
to hold up for 30,000 miles or so like that.

On 5/11/06, Marshall Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am asking the group for some collective wisdom about how to get more
service life out of these switches.   I live in Arizona, where you
typically
have the windows rolled up the majority of the year.   Yet, every 16
months,
for the past 15 years, on each of my three 300D's, I have had to buy a new
switch.

Usually what happens is that the rocker action becomes sticky, then the
switch literally flies apart into your hand  on one of the next cycles.

At nearly a hundred bux a pop from Rusty, it seems to me that there should
be something from a maintenance standpoint that could be done to get some
more service life out of these switches.

Anyone have some suggestions?

Marshall in Feenix   '77 300D, '81 300TD, '85 300DT (Kalifornia)
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Re: [MBZ] Rant about driver door window switches-300D's

[Bob Rentfro]

If you're going to take them apart, do it inside a ziplock bag so, if the 
parts and pieces jetteson from the housing, they are contained. Be careful 
taking the switch out/prying up the fakeola chrome trim...it breaks easily 
after having been in our cars in AZ.


Bob Rentfro
'77 300D 153K
Litchfield Park, AZ

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From: Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 4:42 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Rant about driver door window switches-300D's



I always disassemble them and spray liberally with contact cleaner.  Seems
to hold up for 30,000 miles or so like that.

On 5/11/06, Marshall Field [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I am asking the group for some collective wisdom about how to get more
service life out of these switches.   I live in Arizona, where you
typically
have the windows rolled up the majority of the year.   Yet, every 16
months,
for the past 15 years, on each of my three 300D's, I have had to buy a 
new

switch.

Usually what happens is that the rocker action becomes sticky, then the
switch literally flies apart into your hand  on one of the next cycles.

At nearly a hundred bux a pop from Rusty, it seems to me that there 
should

be something from a maintenance standpoint that could be done to get some
more service life out of these switches.

Anyone have some suggestions?

Marshall in Feenix   '77 300D, '81 300TD, '85 300DT (Kalifornia)
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Re: [MBZ] Rant about driver door window switches-300D's

[Jim Cathey]

Usually what happens is that the rocker action becomes sticky, then the
switch literally flies apart into your hand  on one of the next cycles.


Disassemble and clean, then reassemble with a dot of grease on the
BB's.  But I've never had a switch pop apart by itself, the usual
problem around here is they get dirty and stop working correctly.

I often do a rocker transplant from good junkyard rear window
switches so that I get renewed legends on the front ones.  Of
course that's a perfect time to clean them too.

-- Jim

[MBZ] RANT: Gmail attachments

[Dave M.]

I just learned one of the limitations of Gmail. You cannot send .EXE files 
of any kind, even if they are in a Zip package! Renaming the .exe to 
something else ('.exx' for example) doesn't work either, with or without 
Zipping. Gmail still pops up the same error that executable files are not 
allowed to be sent. Well isn't THAT just freakin' great. Anyone have a 
workaround that doesn't involve posting files to an FTP server?

fume

-- 
Dave M.
Boise, ID
1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship)
1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline)

Re: [MBZ] RANT: Gmail attachments

[TimothyPilgrim]

http://www.yousendit.com

It's easy.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/31/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just learned one of the limitations of Gmail. You cannot send .EXE files
 of any kind, even if they are in a Zip package! Renaming the .exe to
 something else ('.exx' for example) doesn't work either, with or without
 Zipping. Gmail still pops up the same error that executable files are not
 allowed to be sent. Well isn't THAT just freakin' great. Anyone have a
 workaround that doesn't involve posting files to an FTP server?
 
  fume
  
 -- 
 Dave M.
 Boise, ID
 1994 E500 - 94kmi  (Q-ship)
 1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline) 
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: Gmail attachments

[Gabriel S.]

I got it to work...just remove the .exe part...you have to tell the 
recepient to add it back in though

On 8/31/05, TimothyPilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 http://www.yousendit.com
 
 It's easy.
 
 Tim
 1982 300TD Moby
 
 On 8/31/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just learned one of the limitations of Gmail. You cannot send .EXE 
 files
  of any kind, even if they are in a Zip package! Renaming the .exe to
  something else ('.exx' for example) doesn't work either, with or without
  Zipping. Gmail still pops up the same error that executable files are 
 not
  allowed to be sent. Well isn't THAT just freakin' great. Anyone have a
  workaround that doesn't involve posting files to an FTP server?
 
  fume
 
  --
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  Boise, ID
  1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship)
  1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline)
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Re: [MBZ] RANT: Gmail attachments

[Zachary Parker]

Did you try *.rar ?

On 8/31/05, Dave M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 
 I just learned one of the limitations of Gmail. You cannot send .EXE files 
 of any kind, even if they are in a Zip package! Renaming the .exe to 
 something else ('.exx' for example) doesn't work either, with or without 
 Zipping. Gmail still pops up the same error that executable files are not 
 allowed to be sent. Well isn't THAT just freakin' great. Anyone have a 
 workaround that doesn't involve posting files to an FTP server?
 
 fume
 
 -- 
 Dave M.
 Boise, ID
 1994 E500 - 94kmi (Q-ship)
 1987 300D - 258kmi (Sportline)

Re: [MBZ] RANT: Gmail attachments

[JJJ]

eDonkey...the new file sharing program that goes beyond bittorrent...

Re: [MBZ] RANT: Gmail attachments

[TimothyPilgrim]

That'll do it.

Tim
1982 300TD Moby

On 8/31/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I got it to work...just remove the .exe part...you have to tell the
 recepient to add it back in though