[MBZ] W114 250 - 75k miles, manny, green - $8,995
"It will require attention while changing gears" ... maybe bushings in the linkage are worn? Looks like it has some rust bubbles but not terrible. Interior looks nice. https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/dublin-classic-mercedes-250/7342910593.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 parts car 280C
You know when the tires are sunk 8" into the ground and are off the wheels that it's been sitting a while. Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes: > BZZZT > > Too much rust. The wheels are awful, too. > > Not far from my other house, though. Gotta wait for the garage floor to be > epoxied before I can put any cars in it, though. > > -D > >> On Nov 23, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Great project car for the Danster to tidy up and flip. >> >> On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Looks pretty much all there... >>> >>> >>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/d/indianapolis-1975-mercedes-benz/7233718116.html >>> >>> Allan >>> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 parts car 280C
BZZZT Too much rust. The wheels are awful, too. Not far from my other house, though. Gotta wait for the garage floor to be epoxied before I can put any cars in it, though. -D > On Nov 23, 2020, at 2:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > Great project car for the Danster to tidy up and flip. > > On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Looks pretty much all there... >> >> >> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/d/indianapolis-1975-mercedes-benz/7233718116.html >> >> Allan >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 parts car 280C
Great project car for the Danster to tidy up and flip. On Mon, Nov 23, 2020 at 1:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Looks pretty much all there... > > > https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/d/indianapolis-1975-mercedes-benz/7233718116.html > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W114 parts car 280C
Looks pretty much all there... https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/pts/d/indianapolis-1975-mercedes-benz/7233718116.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 BaT flip?
On Sun, July 12, 2020 2:09 pm, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > Just noticed the aftermarket horn (red trumpets) to the left of the air > cleaner in the photos. Wonder if it plays Dixie or Volksmusik? Musicals usually have 5 trumpets and complicated sequencing. Those duals are bigger than my old Fiamm triples, which were impressively loud before the compressor seized. Looks like they're about 50 euros now, which is less than I paid in the 1980s when you consider 30 years of inflation. https://www.hornwarehouse.com/tourhorns/Tour-horn-12v ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 BaT flip?
Just noticed the aftermarket horn (red trumpets) to the left of the air cleaner in the photos. Wonder if it plays Dixie or Volksmusik? Allan Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes writes: > Let's not get all crazy about this. I doubt BAT would attract over $10K. > > On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:32 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> God I am stupid. I used to have one of these as well and sold it when they >> were worth nothing. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On Jul 12, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > That’s a heck of a deal if it’s solid. It’s a stick, too. >> > >> > Noblesville is a very nice upscale area on the north side of >> Indianapolis, so it’s coming from a good neighborhood. >> > >> > -D >> > >> >> On Jul 11, 2020, at 11:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Double your money I bet >> >> >> >> Beautifully kept 1969 250 Luxury Sedan. Car was in storage for 36 years, >> >> two owner car. Engine runs beautifully, new tires, new carpet >> >> professionally installed. Hartman collection. Over $3000 in extra parts. >> >> >> >> >> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/noblesville-1969-mercedes-benz-250/7146680175.html >> >> >> >> Allan >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 BaT flip?
Let's not get all crazy about this. I doubt BAT would attract over $10K. On Sun, Jul 12, 2020 at 10:32 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > God I am stupid. I used to have one of these as well and sold it when they > were worth nothing. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 12, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > That’s a heck of a deal if it’s solid. It’s a stick, too. > > > > Noblesville is a very nice upscale area on the north side of > Indianapolis, so it’s coming from a good neighborhood. > > > > -D > > > >> On Jul 11, 2020, at 11:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> Double your money I bet > >> > >> Beautifully kept 1969 250 Luxury Sedan. Car was in storage for 36 years, > >> two owner car. Engine runs beautifully, new tires, new carpet > >> professionally installed. Hartman collection. Over $3000 in extra parts. > >> > >> > https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/noblesville-1969-mercedes-benz-250/7146680175.html > >> > >> Allan > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 BaT flip?
God I am stupid. I used to have one of these as well and sold it when they were worth nothing. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 12, 2020, at 7:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > That’s a heck of a deal if it’s solid. It’s a stick, too. > > Noblesville is a very nice upscale area on the north side of Indianapolis, so > it’s coming from a good neighborhood. > > -D > >> On Jul 11, 2020, at 11:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Double your money I bet >> >> Beautifully kept 1969 250 Luxury Sedan. Car was in storage for 36 years, >> two owner car. Engine runs beautifully, new tires, new carpet >> professionally installed. Hartman collection. Over $3000 in extra parts. >> >> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/noblesville-1969-mercedes-benz-250/7146680175.html >> >> Allan >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 BaT flip?
That’s a heck of a deal if it’s solid. It’s a stick, too. Noblesville is a very nice upscale area on the north side of Indianapolis, so it’s coming from a good neighborhood. -D > On Jul 11, 2020, at 11:15 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Double your money I bet > > Beautifully kept 1969 250 Luxury Sedan. Car was in storage for 36 years, > two owner car. Engine runs beautifully, new tires, new carpet > professionally installed. Hartman collection. Over $3000 in extra parts. > > https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/noblesville-1969-mercedes-benz-250/7146680175.html > > Allan > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W114 BaT flip?
Double your money I bet Beautifully kept 1969 250 Luxury Sedan. Car was in storage for 36 years, two owner car. Engine runs beautifully, new tires, new carpet professionally installed. Hartman collection. Over $3000 in extra parts. https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/noblesville-1969-mercedes-benz-250/7146680175.html Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750
On 15/02/2018 12:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: On February 15, 2018 at 12:24 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: don't want to have to hire a flat-deck tow truck to haul it home if I run into trouble and I would not want to leave it along the road anywhere for fear it would be vandalized. I doubt anyone would bother a Honda parked along the road but this thing has become old enough to be unique and that draws attention. You can park a 2003 ML350 on a very busy off-ramp in Lansing Michigan for 10 hours on a Wednesday without anybody touching it. Around here, a flat bed costs $75 hook charge and $3.50 per loaded mile. ___ Most newer vehicles are so generic looking that most folks would never notice that an ML350 was a Mercedes. I think there is more risk with a classic vehicle but I could well be wrong. Not anxious to test my theory. I have arranged short hauls of vehicles close to home for $50 cash. Don't know what it might cost if I was a 100 or more miles out and needed to be hauled home. Looks like a 76 300D weighs about 3400 pounds and it also appears that my F150 will pull 8,000 pounds, so I would just need to rent or borrow a trailer and I should be able to retrieve it by myself. RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750
> On February 15, 2018 at 12:24 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > don't want to have to hire a flat-deck tow truck to haul it home if I > run into trouble and I would not want to leave it along the road > anywhere for fear it would be vandalized. I doubt anyone would bother a > Honda parked along the road but this thing has become old enough to be > unique and that draws attention. You can park a 2003 ML350 on a very busy off-ramp in Lansing Michigan for 10 hours on a Wednesday without anybody touching it. Around here, a flat bed costs $75 hook charge and $3.50 per loaded mile. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750
Randy, with a little TLC you could get $10,000 US on BAT. On Thu, Feb 15, 2018 at 12:24 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I like the car and I really do not want to part with it but I did not buy > it to be a garage queen. I don't take it to car shows and I don't want it > to be a hobby car that I work on to make perfect but never drive. I bought > it to drive it. Now, having said that, I have not actually driven it all > that much, partly because I don't drive it in the winter (which tends to be > long up here in the GWN) and I don't normally take it out if it is raining. > Plus, it needs a few things tended to and that kept me from using it as a > daily driver to work last summer. I need to put the vacuum shut off doodad > in as it won't shut off without my opening the hood and pushing on the red > tab. I have the part but have not yet installed it. I intend to do so this > spring as soon as things warm up some. > > However, I am concerned that it is becoming too old for my intended > purpose. It appears that parts are becoming harder to get and I don't want > to feel that I cannot readily take it any distance from home. I don't want > to have to hire a flat-deck tow truck to haul it home if I run into trouble > and I would not want to leave it along the road anywhere for fear it would > be vandalized. I doubt anyone would bother a Honda parked along the road > but this thing has become old enough to be unique and that draws attention. > > So, I am sort of at the point where I wonder if I should part with it and > get something newer. Maybe MB and maybe not but not quite as noticeable. > > RB > > On 14/02/2018 5:59 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote: > >> I suspect that the survivors are in much better condition than the ones >> that rusted out, got Cash/klunked, or abused over the past 40 years. They >> are also very affordable to own and operate, as well as having a following >> in the old countries, so parts are available. That it shares some parts >> with the R107 does not hurt. The size is a boon. The W116 is really >> large, while the /8 can be handled better than that or the R107. >> >> I enjoyed working on my /8, and it does have the classic Sacco and Braq >> lines. Why do you still hold on to your car Randy? >> >> >> >> clay >> >> >> On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> So, what do you all think about this? There have been several 114/115 >>> cars sold for very good prices in recent times. >>> None have been perfect show cars. >>> >>> 1. Are they just getting old enough to have become somewhat rare? >>> >>> 2. Do they appeal to older wealthy folks who can afford another toy? >>> >>> 3. Should I shine mine up and get out while the going is good, so to >>> speak? >>> >>> RB >>> >>> ___ >>> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750
I like the car and I really do not want to part with it but I did not buy it to be a garage queen. I don't take it to car shows and I don't want it to be a hobby car that I work on to make perfect but never drive. I bought it to drive it. Now, having said that, I have not actually driven it all that much, partly because I don't drive it in the winter (which tends to be long up here in the GWN) and I don't normally take it out if it is raining. Plus, it needs a few things tended to and that kept me from using it as a daily driver to work last summer. I need to put the vacuum shut off doodad in as it won't shut off without my opening the hood and pushing on the red tab. I have the part but have not yet installed it. I intend to do so this spring as soon as things warm up some. However, I am concerned that it is becoming too old for my intended purpose. It appears that parts are becoming harder to get and I don't want to feel that I cannot readily take it any distance from home. I don't want to have to hire a flat-deck tow truck to haul it home if I run into trouble and I would not want to leave it along the road anywhere for fear it would be vandalized. I doubt anyone would bother a Honda parked along the road but this thing has become old enough to be unique and that draws attention. So, I am sort of at the point where I wonder if I should part with it and get something newer. Maybe MB and maybe not but not quite as noticeable. RB On 14/02/2018 5:59 PM, clay monroe via Mercedes wrote: I suspect that the survivors are in much better condition than the ones that rusted out, got Cash/klunked, or abused over the past 40 years. They are also very affordable to own and operate, as well as having a following in the old countries, so parts are available. That it shares some parts with the R107 does not hurt. The size is a boon. The W116 is really large, while the /8 can be handled better than that or the R107. I enjoyed working on my /8, and it does have the classic Sacco and Braq lines. Why do you still hold on to your car Randy? clay On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote: So, what do you all think about this? There have been several 114/115 cars sold for very good prices in recent times. None have been perfect show cars. 1. Are they just getting old enough to have become somewhat rare? 2. Do they appeal to older wealthy folks who can afford another toy? 3. Should I shine mine up and get out while the going is good, so to speak? RB ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750
Yes, I remember when those were going for crazy money. Sent from my iPhone > On Feb 14, 2018, at 6:11 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > R > Yes, time to cash in. Ten years ago I sold a fair 201 diesel for $5200 when > they were really popular (high fuel prices). > -- > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD > '95 E300 > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750
Yes, time to cash in. Ten years ago I sold a fair 201 diesel for $5200 when they were really popular (high fuel prices). -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750
I suspect that the survivors are in much better condition than the ones that rusted out, got Cash/klunked, or abused over the past 40 years. They are also very affordable to own and operate, as well as having a following in the old countries, so parts are available. That it shares some parts with the R107 does not hurt. The size is a boon. The W116 is really large, while the /8 can be handled better than that or the R107. I enjoyed working on my /8, and it does have the classic Sacco and Braq lines. Why do you still hold on to your car Randy? clay 1974 450sl - Frosch - Two tone green 1986 SDL - Polei 1982 300 SD - Allen retired models- 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers > On Feb 14, 2018, at 2:27 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > So, what do you all think about this? There have been several 114/115 cars > sold for very good prices in recent times. > None have been perfect show cars. > > 1. Are they just getting old enough to have become somewhat rare? > > 2. Do they appeal to older wealthy folks who can afford another toy? > > 3. Should I shine mine up and get out while the going is good, so to speak? > > RB > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10,750
So, what do you all think about this? There have been several 114/115 cars sold for very good prices in recent times. None have been perfect show cars. 1. Are they just getting old enough to have become somewhat rare? 2. Do they appeal to older wealthy folks who can afford another toy? 3. Should I shine mine up and get out while the going is good, so to speak? RB ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W114 250 sold for over $10k
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Re: [MBZ] W114/W115 front brake interchange
I have a set of front disks from Q that never made it onto my 72 220D. Pads as well. These items were not transferable to the R107, so Sexy Parts God, Garry got me the proper stuff for my SL. Gary will be able to provide the parts for a great price if what I have are not correct clay On Aug 12, 2014, at 5:47 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote: > Gang > > My 1970 220 (115010) needs front rotors and calipers. It is an early car > (66138) that uses the same calipers etc as were used on 108 and early 115 > cars. Later W115 and most W114 used vented discs and bigger calipers which > interchange to R107/W123/W126. > > Does anyone happen to know if there are significant changes that would > require me to use an updated knuckle and steering arm in order to fit the new > rotors and calipers? EPC isn't totally clear on this point, but it seems to > indicate that a bunch of stuff has to change if I stray from the original > configuration, possibly including the knuckle itself. > > I'm not hell bent on having vented discs, but it is getting tough (and > expensive) to find calipers and even discs for the older config. > > D. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W114/W115 front brake interchange
On Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:47:56 -0700 David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote: > Gang > > My 1970 220 (115010) needs front rotors and calipers. It is an early > car (66138) that uses the same calipers etc as were used on 108 and > early 115 cars. Later W115 and most W114 used vented discs and bigger > calipers which interchange to R107/W123/W126. I had a 1972 220D/8 (115110-10-225256) and do not recall the disks being vented. I do think they were solid. > Does anyone happen to know if there are significant changes that would > require me to use an updated knuckle and steering arm in order to fit > the new rotors and calipers? Sorry, I don't. > EPC isn't totally clear on this point, but it seems to indicate that a > bunch of stuff has to change if I stray from the original > configuration, possibly including the knuckle itself. You could go to a pick-and-pull, or maybe Kaleb and get a disk and caliper of the type to which you want to go -- they don't even have to work -- and see if they fit before you invest in a set of four good ones. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W114/W115 front brake interchange
Hey Gary, If you look up Davids brake parts, how about looking up mine for an '83 240D front calipers, rotors, and hoses; and also the B-2 kit for an '83 300D. Also the prices. Thanks, Gerry On 8/12/2014 8:47 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote: Gang My 1970 220 (115010) needs front rotors and calipers. It is an early car (66138) that uses the same calipers etc as were used on 108 and early 115 cars. Later W115 and most W114 used vented discs and bigger calipers which interchange to R107/W123/W126. Does anyone happen to know if there are significant changes that would require me to use an updated knuckle and steering arm in order to fit the new rotors and calipers? EPC isn't totally clear on this point, but it seems to indicate that a bunch of stuff has to change if I stray from the original configuration, possibly including the knuckle itself. I'm not hell bent on having vented discs, but it is getting tough (and expensive) to find calipers and even discs for the older config. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W114/W115 front brake interchange
Hi David, I"m not sure if they're the same, but I did buy new front calipers for a W108 (70 280SE) for a reasonable price earlier this year. I think I bought genuine Mercedes. They were cheaper than I expected. Jaime On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 8:47 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Gang > > My 1970 220 (115010) needs front rotors and calipers. It is an early car > (66138) that uses the same calipers etc as were used on 108 and early 115 > cars. Later W115 and most W114 used vented discs and bigger calipers which > interchange to R107/W123/W126. > > Does anyone happen to know if there are significant changes that would > require me to use an updated knuckle and steering arm in order to fit the > new rotors and calipers? EPC isn't totally clear on this point, but it > seems to indicate that a bunch of stuff has to change if I stray from the > original configuration, possibly including the knuckle itself. > > I'm not hell bent on having vented discs, but it is getting tough (and > expensive) to find calipers and even discs for the older config. > > D. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner > has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W114/W115 front brake interchange
Gang My 1970 220 (115010) needs front rotors and calipers. It is an early car (66138) that uses the same calipers etc as were used on 108 and early 115 cars. Later W115 and most W114 used vented discs and bigger calipers which interchange to R107/W123/W126. Does anyone happen to know if there are significant changes that would require me to use an updated knuckle and steering arm in order to fit the new rotors and calipers? EPC isn't totally clear on this point, but it seems to indicate that a bunch of stuff has to change if I stray from the original configuration, possibly including the knuckle itself. I'm not hell bent on having vented discs, but it is getting tough (and expensive) to find calipers and even discs for the older config. D. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] w114 /8 type seat back
On 01/05/2013 11:42 AM, clay wrote: I just came into possession of a seat back for the 1968-1976 114/115 cars. The cover is palamino tex and there is a headrest. The best part is that the cover is off and the spring and pad are in excellent condition. If there is anybody on list in need of this, let me know and we can arrange shipping out. I have no idea how often a seat back fails, but I do know the butt pad is shot quickly. I do not have the seat bottom, just the back. You can take some or all. clay ___ They certainly do dry out and fall apart. You may recall that I had to have both of my front seats re-padded last summer/fall. The back seat needs it too but is not so often used so has been left for a later time. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] w114 /8 type seat back
I just came into possession of a seat back for the 1968-1976 114/115 cars. The cover is palamino tex and there is a headrest. The best part is that the cover is off and the spring and pad are in excellent condition. If there is anybody on list in need of this, let me know and we can arrange shipping out. I have no idea how often a seat back fails, but I do know the butt pad is shot quickly. I do not have the seat bottom, just the back. You can take some or all. clay ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
Thanks for all the responses guys... I might be able to get the originals from the previous owner it seems. If that doesn't come through, i'll be in touch. Jaime On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:51 PM, clay monroe wrote: > I might have that color hub cap as well > > clay > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > > Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home. > > > > It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice > > 175HR14 Vredestein tires!) > > > > Jaime > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, wrote: > > > >> Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 > project? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi All, > >>> I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. > 5 > >>> 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. > >>> > >>> I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Jaime > >>> ja...@jaimekop.com > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jaime Kopchinski > >>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Jaime Kopchinski > > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
I might have that color hub cap as well clay On Dec 5, 2012, at 4:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home. > > It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice > 175HR14 Vredestein tires!) > > Jaime > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, wrote: > >> Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 project? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5 >>> 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. >>> >>> I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jaime >>> ja...@jaimekop.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jaime Kopchinski >>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
These are the standard steel wheels used on all of the early 70's cars with 14 inch wheels On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:58 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote: > Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 project? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > >> Hi All, >> I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5 >> 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. >> >> I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. >> >> Thanks, >> Jaime >> ja...@jaimekop.com >> >> >> -- >> Jaime Kopchinski >> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
I have a pair, but they would have to travel the length of I-90 to get to you. clay On Dec 5, 2012, at 3:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Hi All, > I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5 > 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. > > I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. > > Thanks, > Jaime > ja...@jaimekop.com > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
On Wed, 5 Dec 2012 18:56:47 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Hi All, > I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. > 5 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. > > I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. Jaime, I have two of them with studded snows mounted. I'm in New Mexico. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
I have the vred's on my '67 beetle (165R15).you can't go wrong with that tire. Jon On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home. > > It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice > 175HR14 Vredestein tires!) > > Jaime > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, wrote: > >> Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 project? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5 >>> 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. >>> >>> I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jaime >>> ja...@jaimekop.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jaime Kopchinski >>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
Not at the moment... in a little while I'll get some up! Jaime On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:23 PM, wrote: > Cool. Nice color:) Any pics on your website yet? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > > Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home. > > > > It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice > > 175HR14 Vredestein tires!) > > > > Jaime > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, wrote: > > > >> Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 > project? > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski > wrote: > >> > >>> Hi All, > >>> I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. > 5 > >>> 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. > >>> > >>> I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> Jaime > >>> ja...@jaimekop.com > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jaime Kopchinski > >>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Jaime Kopchinski > > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
Cool. Nice color:) Any pics on your website yet? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home. > > It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice > 175HR14 Vredestein tires!) > > Jaime > > > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, wrote: > >> Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 project? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5 >>> 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. >>> >>> I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Jaime >>> ja...@jaimekop.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jaime Kopchinski >>> http://www.jaimekop.com/ >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
Yep... looks like a china blue 280C followed me home. It has bundts on it and I'd rather see it with hubcaps. (And some nice 175HR14 Vredestein tires!) Jaime On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:58 PM, wrote: > Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 project? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > > > Hi All, > > I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5 > > 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. > > > > I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. > > > > Thanks, > > Jaime > > ja...@jaimekop.com > > > > > > -- > > Jaime Kopchinski > > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
Don't have any but out of curiosity, are you working on a 114/115 project? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 5, 2012, at 6:56 PM, Jaime Kopchinski wrote: > Hi All, > I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5 > 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. > > I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. > > Thanks, > Jaime > ja...@jaimekop.com > > > -- > Jaime Kopchinski > http://www.jaimekop.com/ > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W114/115 wheels wanted
Hi All, I'm looking for steel wheels originally delivered on 114 and 115 cars. 5 1/2" x 14", part number 115 400 13 02. I need two, but would take four for the right price. I'm in NJ. Thanks, Jaime ja...@jaimekop.com -- Jaime Kopchinski http://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
I have a 114 coupe with only a little rust that I was thinking about selling. It does not have a title. I got it with idea that I would harvest some parts off it and then send back to where I got it (junkyard). I have had it about 6 months and have not done that. Now it is just taking up space. The body is really in pretty good shape. I truly believe it could be fixed and made driveable. I have 600 in it. If some one wants, then let me know. I think it overall certainly could be a good little car. I put this in here so if someone had an interest, they could take advantage of it (as opposed to a scrap yard). Thanks cks In a message dated 12/7/2010 10:02:25 P.M. Central Standard Time, 126die...@gmail.com writes: Ok, I will have to go dig out the cluster from that 74 euro 107 and see... But it is way cold and nasty outside, so not now. >>123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am >>aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, >>because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. > >All our 107's were 6-digit, including the '76. > >-- Jim > > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Easy, the odometer stopped working. We all know when that happens, the car never ages! :D Walt On Dec 7, 2010 12:23 PM, "Mitch Haley" wrote: > Allan Streib wrote: >> http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html > > How does a 40 year old daily driver accumulate 53,000 miles over its lifetime? > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Ok, I will have to go dig out the cluster from that 74 euro 107 and see... But it is way cold and nasty outside, so not now. 123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. All our 107's were 6-digit, including the '76. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. All our 107's were 6-digit, including the '76. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
all of the 107's I have seen had 6 digit all the way back. On 12/7/2010 6:22 PM, Dieselhead wrote: Didn't early 107s have 5 digit odo? You are right though, the 380SLs have 6 digit. I was thinking of the 74 107 cluster I have. I think it is a 5 digit 107/116 were the first On 12/7/2010 3:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: 123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Didn't early 107s have 5 digit odo? You are right though, the 380SLs have 6 digit. I was thinking of the 74 107 cluster I have. I think it is a 5 digit 107/116 were the first On 12/7/2010 3:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: 123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
107/116 were the first On 12/7/2010 3:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote: 123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
123 was the first in the usa to show 6 digits of miles that I am aware of, but I never had a 116. probably the 116 was first, because 107 and 114/5 and 108 all are 5 digit miles. On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: By not showing the 1-9 in the 100k column of the odo. When did Benz switch to 6-digit odometers? Before the /8? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
My 76 300D only has 5 digits. It showed 0990 miles on it when I got it. So, is that once around or twice or ??? Randy On 07/12/2010 12:42 PM, Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dieselhead<126die...@gmail.com> wrote: By not showing the 1-9 in the 100k column of the odo. When did Benz switch to 6-digit odometers? Before the /8? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 10:24 AM, Dieselhead <126die...@gmail.com> wrote: > By not showing the 1-9 in the 100k column of the odo. > When did Benz switch to 6-digit odometers? Before the /8? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
That is Easy! By not showing the 1-9 in the 100k column of the odo. Allan Streib wrote: http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html How does a 40 year old daily driver accumulate 53,000 miles over its lifetime? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Allan Streib wrote: http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html How does a 40 year old daily driver accumulate 53,000 miles over its lifetime? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114
Ah! the magic words that forever made me a fan of Diesels: Dual Zenith Carbs http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html Not mine, no interest, etc. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W114
http://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/2093884521.html Not mine, no interest, etc. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
I thought they had Behr units under the dash. Peter Frederick wrote: They may have been "factory", but the label on the under dash unit says "ThermoKing" which is a US "aftermarket" brand. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Mon, 9 Aug 2010 22:45:42 -0500 Peter Frederick wrote: > They may have been "factory", but the label on the under dash unit > says "ThermoKing" which is a US "aftermarket" brand. Ah, yes, the under-dash units. I've seen pictures of those in earlier cars. My '72 220D/8, a W115, however, had no under-dash unit; it was ALL built in, and very nicely, thank you. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
They may have been "factory", but the label on the under dash unit says "ThermoKing" which is a US "aftermarket" brand. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
I asked Chip whos dad sold these things new and he said they were factory. Somebody else said the 108's were factory as well, but I dont know. Dieselhead wrote: Early 114/115 were dealer installed. the 76 300D i parted out had factory A/C. Even the wiring harness was different than nonA/C models. It was a transition model, as the factory slowly realized to keep the NA market, they had to have real A/C in a "luxury" car. I don't know which models have factory A/C which years. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Early 114/115 were dealer installed. the 76 300D i parted out had factory A/C. Even the wiring harness was different than nonA/C models. It was a transition model, as the factory slowly realized to keep the NA market, they had to have real A/C in a "luxury" car. I don't know which models have factory A/C which years. Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. Might have started putting them in at the factory in the mid 70s, but probably only the W123. AC was a dealer installed option,and here are some cars out there without it. Peter -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least on the later 114/115 Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
The presence of the parts in the manual does not preclude it being a dealer installed option, it just means it's official Benz. All the AC stuff was made in the US, after all, why ship it to Germany and back again? They all look the same because they are official Benz parts, installed by official dealers using Benz instructions, just like all their cars look pretty much the same, assembled from official parts by Benz workers. Why on earth would they look different? Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Fri, 06 Aug 2010 14:37:37 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > Besides, the whole system is right there in the EPC. The clincher. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
W115/114 /8 was introduced in 1968, and the AC was indeed installed at the dealer. Lots of stories about saving time by bending back (and breaking) the sides of the console to shove the bits in without pulling it as they were supposed to, leading to failures later. All MBs were station built up the to W123, not on an assembly line, so dealer installation isn't really that bit a deal -- it just moved the work to the dealer's shop, where it was cheaper. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
yea, I have dealers we service right now that have those cars with no AC at all in them. In fact, there is even a cobalt that does not have AC. I do not know about the add on kit but it would not surprise me. Mitch Haley wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing. But are there still trim packages that don't have the option of A/C? And do they sell a dealer installable A/C kit for those trim levels? I had no idea what the present situation is, I just thought it kind of odd the way they were doing it in 2005. At least the SV package in the Cavalier and Sunfire included CD player and A/C in 2005. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3054 - Release Date: 08/06/10 02:37:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Every 115 I have seen has the same deal, identical. If it was dealer installed, I would think you could tell, and it would be just a little different on each one. Besides, the whole system is right there in the EPC. R A Bennell wrote: I believe my 76 300D AC is factory. As Kaleb said, the whole thing is sort of an add-on to the systems in the car but it does not look like they had to patch it in somehow. I believe it has always been there. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears to me that the chassis was probably not originally designed with ac in mind but all my info points to factory installed air on those. Peter Frederick wrote: Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. Might have started putting them in at the factory in the mid 70s, but probably only the W123. AC was a dealer installed option,and here are some cars out there without it. Peter -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least on the later 114/115 Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3054 - Release Date: 08/06/10 02:37:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing. But are there still trim packages that don't have the option of A/C? And do they sell a dealer installable A/C kit for those trim levels? I had no idea what the present situation is, I just thought it kind of odd the way they were doing it in 2005. At least the SV package in the Cavalier and Sunfire included CD player and A/C in 2005. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
I believe my 76 300D AC is factory. As Kaleb said, the whole thing is sort of an add-on to the systems in the car but it does not look like they had to patch it in somehow. I believe it has always been there. Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 1:17 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears to me that the chassis was probably not originally designed with ac in mind but all my info points to factory installed air on those. Peter Frederick wrote: > Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in > those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. Might have started putting them in at the factory in the mid 70s, but probably only the W123. AC was a dealer installed option,and here are some cars out there without it. > > Peter > > > -Original Message- > >> From: Craig McCluskey >> Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls >> >> On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" >> wrote: >> >> >>> the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought >>> since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least >>> on the later 114/115 >>> >> Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install >> the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really >> belonged there. >> >> >> Craig >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 > 13:23:00 > > -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Even now there are aveos available with no ac, no cruise, no nothing. Mitch Haley wrote: Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. A few years ago, the Special Value Chevy Aveo was a $1 car with no factory options (which sold for as little as $6k in the late summer of 2005). There was a factory A/C accessory parts kit for those who wanted A/C but didn't want to pay for the Aveo LS. I believe it was equivalent to installing the factory A/C from a parts car into a car that never had A/C. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Im sure the 60's cars had dealer installed air, Im talking about the later run 115's, those were factory (mid 70's). It appears to me that the chassis was probably not originally designed with ac in mind but all my info points to factory installed air on those. Peter Frederick wrote: Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. Might have started putting them in at the factory in the mid 70s, but probably only the W123. AC was a dealer installed option,and here are some cars out there without it. Peter -Original Message- From: Craig McCluskey Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least on the later 114/115 Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3053 - Release Date: 08/05/10 13:23:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
I know I've seen mid 60's 200 Series On Aug 6, 2010 10:15 AM, "Craig McCluskey" wrote: On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:09:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick wrote: > Sorry... I'm talking 1972. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go t... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 23:09:12 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick wrote: > Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz > dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking > about the 60's here. I'm talking 1972. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
How does the York in the early 123 compare? I like the look of the compressor up right where you can get at it... -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 21:59:24 -0500 From: Peter Frederick To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: <13856bcf-fab7-4964-bdd8-8f7e9e02a...@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed The W108 system was a ThermoKing that used an R type compressor from GM, blower was in the passenger side kick panel. Universally referrred to as "inadequate", mainly because it has very poor air circulation. The evaporator is fine, and should freeze you out, but the air flow is best described as anemic. The W115/114 system uses a York compressor and a dual squirrel cage fan behind the evaporator. When properly charged, they will freeze you, even at idle. Almost stalls a 220D though. I converted mine and it worked pretty well for the few months the car ran after I charged it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Sure the seats aren't out of a Camry or Volvo or something? Remind me of my V70. I've got a legit 115 rear seat. And two fronts, but Kaleb has called the seat bottoms already, if he'll tell me where to send them. And carpets and the rest of the interior, for a short time... so if someone buys this and wants pieces let me know quick. I have this same compressor on both the 115 240D and the '77 123 300D. "Long lived" is good, but I'll probably pull it from the 240D for spare now that I've noticed it is the same. Anything special to do when storing compressors? -Tim On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: > So it looks like he has some sort of 124 seats in the front and 140 seats > crammed in the back. Wow. > > Alex Chamberlain wrote: >> >> http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html >> >> In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for >> this vintage of 300D? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the >> sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup >> with separate blowers? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I >> thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or >> vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. >> >> I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats >> appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. >> If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all >> over it. Wonder if "everything works" includes the heater blower? >> >> Alex >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > -- > Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK > 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, > 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro > manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Craig McCluskey wrote: Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. A few years ago, the Special Value Chevy Aveo was a $1 car with no factory options (which sold for as little as $6k in the late summer of 2005). There was a factory A/C accessory parts kit for those who wanted A/C but didn't want to pay for the Aveo LS. I believe it was equivalent to installing the factory A/C from a parts car into a car that never had A/C. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Sorry boys, I've talked to the guy who used to run the local Benz dealer in those days. Dealer installed. Remember, we are talking about the 60's here. Might have started putting them in at the factory in the mid 70s, but probably only the W123. AC was a dealer installed option,and here are some cars out there without it. Peter -Original Message- >From: Craig McCluskey >Sent: Aug 5, 2010 10:54 PM >To: mercedes@okiebenz.com >Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls > >On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" > wrote: > >> the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought >> since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least >> on the later 114/115 > >Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install >the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really >belonged there. > > >Craig > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Thu, 05 Aug 2010 22:16:24 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin" wrote: > the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought > since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least > on the later 114/115 Yes, what he said. No way would a dealer go to all the trouble to install the A/C in a '72 220D/8 like ours and have it look entirely like it really belonged there. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Up to the W123 I believe they were dealer installed. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
the AC on those was not aftermarket. It was perhaps an afterthought since orignal design, but they came from the factory with AC, at least on the later 114/115 Alex Chamberlain wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. By aftermarket you mean fitted by the dealer, right? Are these the Behr units that are often mentioned or are there some /8s out there with other kinds of A/C? if AC is fitted, there is a rotary switch on the console that switches the air from from heat to recirculate only AC via the dash vents, and switches from the heater fan to the AC fan. Aha. So you can tell by the presence of that switch that A/C is fitted? Obviously the best check would be to look for a compressor and so on under the hood, but I'm thinking about how to tell from sellers' pictures if there isn't a good one of the engine. In the CL ad I originally posted, however, methinks in the pic of the engine I see a compressor at the bottom left---at least it has two thick lines coming off and one has a service port on it. Is that one of the famously long-lived York compressors? http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
So it looks like he has some sort of 124 seats in the front and 140 seats crammed in the back. Wow. Alex Chamberlain wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for this vintage of 300D? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup with separate blowers? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all over it. Wonder if "everything works" includes the heater blower? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 94 S500, 92 500SEL, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 350SDL, 91 300D, 89 560SEL, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D, 84 300D euro manny, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
The W108 system was a ThermoKing that used an R type compressor from GM, blower was in the passenger side kick panel. Universally referrred to as "inadequate", mainly because it has very poor air circulation. The evaporator is fine, and should freeze you out, but the air flow is best described as anemic. The W115/114 system uses a York compressor and a dual squirrel cage fan behind the evaporator. When properly charged, they will freeze you, even at idle. Almost stalls a 220D though. I converted mine and it worked pretty well for the few months the car ran after I charged it. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
The two examples that i had were radically different (from the cabin point of view), but then they were separated by 6 years also. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM, Peter Frederick wrote: > The "factory" AC in in fact "aftermarket" -- it was dealer installed, > comprised of US made parts. > > Peter -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls- seats
At first I was just thinking much newer MB but now I'm starting to think the seats are from some other car. The wedge shape of the arm rests is whats got me wondering. Thats definitely not a 123 arm rest in the front or the rear... The seatbelt latches look wrong too. -Curt Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:30:17 -0500 From: "R A Bennell" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls- seats Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" The reason that I speculated that the seats had been re-done rather than come out of another car is that the rear seat matches and appears to fit. I sort of doubted that any other later seat would fit the rear as well as the original did. Anyone know if seats out of a 123 etc will fit into a 115? Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
The "factory" AC in in fact "aftermarket" -- it was dealer installed, comprised of US made parts. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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They do not, the W123 is slightly wider. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
I've had both - an aftermarket AC was installed in the 1970 220D I had, complete with a non-MB center console, and the two 1976 300Ds had factory AC. On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Craig McCluskey wrote: > On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:34:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick > wrote: > > > > > No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. > > No! That is wrong! The A/C came from the factory! -- OK Don Panic! (the national past time). ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls- seats
The reason that I speculated that the seats had been re-done rather than come out of another car is that the rear seat matches and appears to fit. I sort of doubted that any other later seat would fit the rear as well as the original did. Anyone know if seats out of a 123 etc will fit into a 115? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of toms cat1 Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 9:17 PM To: mercedes diesel Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls That is the exact A/C system that I have in my 1975 W115 300D, both the interior and under the hood. Yes, that is the compressor that you see in the lower left of the pic you mentioned. I can't remember the brand for sure, but I think it is a York. I have a spare from my recycled 1976 300D. RIP. Peter Frederick was spot on (as he usually is, btw) with his description of the A/C and heater set up on the W115... to call that climate control is... a stretch, implying a level of sophistication that is simply non-existent in the W115. :) I have never used the A/C on my car (that is what that monster sunroof is for, if you ask me) . it has never worked. Those red and blue control levers are standard, and the dial on the lower console with the green is the A/C control. Thereis also a fresh air vent lever, as Peter mentioned, in the middle of the upper unit. Those seats have been changed they are not original in any W115 I have seen. As you probably know, all the W115 300D s were automatic transmissions. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all the BMWs Message: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:04:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: <604107.10628...@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Are those even 115 seats? -Curt Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for this vintage of 300D?? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup with separate blowers?? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all over it.? Wonder if "everything works" includes the heater blower? Alex -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:07:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: <865635.29853...@web32803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think thats a York, it looks just like the one in Dwight's '78 240D. I'm thinking if I buy the car I'll have to get it working if for no other reason than to see how much it shakes the car... -Curt Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:30:12 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > > No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. By aftermarket you mean fitted by the dealer, right?? Are these the Behr units that are often mentioned or are there some /8s out there with other kinds of A/C? >???if AC is fitted, there is a rotary switch on the console that switches the >air from from heat > to recirculate only AC via the dash vents, and switches from the heater fan > to the AC fan. Aha.? So you can tell by the presence of that switch that A/C is fitted?? Obviously the best check would be to look for a compressor and so on under the hood, but I'm thinking about how to tell from sellers' pictures if there isn't a good one of the engine.? In the CL ad I originally posted, however, methinks in the pic of the engine I see a compressor at the bottom left---at least it has two thick lines coming off and one has a service port on it.? Is that one of the famously long-lived York compressors? http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ htt
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
That is the exact A/C system that I have in my 1975 W115 300D, both the interior and under the hood. Yes, that is the compressor that you see in the lower left of the pic you mentioned. I can't remember the brand for sure, but I think it is a York. I have a spare from my recycled 1976 300D. RIP. Peter Frederick was spot on (as he usually is, btw) with his description of the A/C and heater set up on the W115... to call that climate control is... a stretch, implying a level of sophistication that is simply non-existent in the W115. :) I have never used the A/C on my car (that is what that monster sunroof is for, if you ask me) . it has never worked. Those red and blue control levers are standard, and the dial on the lower console with the green is the A/C control. Thereis also a fresh air vent lever, as Peter mentioned, in the middle of the upper unit. Those seats have been changed they are not original in any W115 I have seen. As you probably know, all the W115 300D s were automatic transmissions. Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and all the BMWs Message: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:04:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: <604107.10628...@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Are those even 115 seats? -Curt Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for this vintage of 300D?? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup with separate blowers?? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all over it.? Wonder if "everything works" includes the heater blower? Alex -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:07:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Curt Raymond To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: <865635.29853...@web32803.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I think thats a York, it looks just like the one in Dwight's '78 240D. I'm thinking if I buy the car I'll have to get it working if for no other reason than to see how much it shakes the car... -Curt Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:30:12 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > > No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. By aftermarket you mean fitted by the dealer, right?? Are these the Behr units that are often mentioned or are there some /8s out there with other kinds of A/C? >???if AC is fitted, there is a rotary switch on the console that switches the >air from from heat > to recirculate only AC via the dash vents, and switches from the heater fan > to the AC fan. Aha.? So you can tell by the presence of that switch that A/C is fitted?? Obviously the best check would be to look for a compressor and so on under the hood, but I'm thinking about how to tell from sellers' pictures if there isn't a good one of the engine.? In the CL ad I originally posted, however, methinks in the pic of the engine I see a compressor at the bottom left---at least it has two thick lines coming off and one has a service port on it.? Is that one of the famously long-lived York compressors? http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 20:39:01 -0600 Craig McCluskey wrote: > The controls to the right of the key lock are for heating and > ventilation. > > The upper levers with the blue arrows control air flow, the left one > with the blue arrow pointing up to the defroster vents by the > windshield, the right one with the blue arrow pointing down to the > floor vents. I forgot: The lower levers with the red arrows control the flow of hot water to the left and right heater cores (there are two, just like a W123). Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:21:09 -0500 "R A Bennell" wrote: > Yes, the car has the a/c parts on it. The compressor is very visible on > the left front of the engine. The knob to turn if on is above and to > the left side of the stereo. The compressor is on the passenger front side of the engine. And, the compressor drive belt is not fitted and the pullies are rusty. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:34:43 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Peter Frederick wrote: > > No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. No! That is wrong! The A/C came from the factory! Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700 Alex Chamberlain wrote: > http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html > > In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for > this vintage of 300D? It looks close to what our '72 220D/8 had. > What's with the knobs near the stereo and the sliders above in two > separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup with separate blowers? The controls to the right of the key lock are for heating and ventilation. The upper levers with the blue arrows control air flow, the left one with the blue arrow pointing up to the defroster vents by the windshield, the right one with the blue arrow pointing down to the floor vents. The round knob in the middle controls the speed of the fan. The grille above the blue levers and round knob brings in outside air, whose volume is adjusted by the lever just above the grille when the A/C is not running. When the A/C is running, some vacuum operated baffles move and block off the outside air and the grille outputs chilled air from the A/C. The air is moved by a different blower than when the A/C is off. The round knob with the green arrow just above the left end of the radio is the temperature control. > I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I thought they came with > either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or vertical-slider manual controls like a > W123 240D. No, they did not. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Those A/C controls are identical to the ones in my '76 300D. Knob by the stereo controls A/C being on or off, and the duty cycle, which maps roughly to temperature. Sliders (red) control hot air left and right, and (blue) airflow to the windshield and feet. (If the blower works, see if you can find out if it's been replaced; if it's original it'll probably be dead in a year or two. All the originals must be at the end of their lifecycles by now.) ("Great condition" inside and out? "Everything works"? It's missing the side markers and fog lamps (the latter being optional, but it sure looks like they WERE on it and have been removed). The glove box isn't in "great" condition and it looks like at least one of the vent control sliders is completely missing. Headliner's also trashed, but that's endemic. I'm also dubious about the radiator. Looks like dried coolant on it, and I know from experience that when those get old they develop leaks. "Great condition"? Must be very, very relative... That said, at half the price it'd be an awesome parts car. And if it runs, *and the AC and heater fan work*, it's not too bad. Those seats don't look original, but they also look nice and clean and plush. I'd trade my trashed originals for those anyday...) Stuart S. Alex Chamberlain said: Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: ??? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for this vintage of 300D?? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup with separate blowers?? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all over it.? Wonder if "everything works" includes the heater blower? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote: > Are those even 115 seats? > I'm going to have to go look at it. It doesn't even look like MB-Tex in the pictures. Maybe they were recovered at some point, but then why not match the door panel color? A;ex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
I think thats a York, it looks just like the one in Dwight's '78 240D. I'm thinking if I buy the car I'll have to get it working if for no other reason than to see how much it shakes the car... -Curt Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 12:30:12 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > > No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. By aftermarket you mean fitted by the dealer, right? Are these the Behr units that are often mentioned or are there some /8s out there with other kinds of A/C? > if AC is fitted, there is a rotary switch on the console that switches the >air from from heat > to recirculate only AC via the dash vents, and switches from the heater fan > to the AC fan. Aha. So you can tell by the presence of that switch that A/C is fitted? Obviously the best check would be to look for a compressor and so on under the hood, but I'm thinking about how to tell from sellers' pictures if there isn't a good one of the engine. In the CL ad I originally posted, however, methinks in the pic of the engine I see a compressor at the bottom left---at least it has two thick lines coming off and one has a service port on it. Is that one of the famously long-lived York compressors? http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Are those even 115 seats? -Curt Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 10:26:08 -0700 From: Alex Chamberlain To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for this vintage of 300D? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup with separate blowers? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all over it. Wonder if "everything works" includes the heater blower? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
Yes, the car has the a/c parts on it. The compressor is very visible on the left front of the engine. The knob to turn if on is above and to the left side of the stereo. Interesting seats. Are they out of some other Benz or are they custom made to fit it I wonder? Randy -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Alex Chamberlain Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 1:30 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > > No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. By aftermarket you mean fitted by the dealer, right? Are these the Behr units that are often mentioned or are there some /8s out there with other kinds of A/C? > if AC is fitted, there is a rotary switch on the console that switches the > air from from heat > to recirculate only AC via the dash vents, and switches from the heater fan > to the AC fan. Aha. So you can tell by the presence of that switch that A/C is fitted? Obviously the best check would be to look for a compressor and so on under the hood, but I'm thinking about how to tell from sellers' pictures if there isn't a good one of the engine. In the CL ad I originally posted, however, methinks in the pic of the engine I see a compressor at the bottom left---at least it has two thick lines coming off and one has a service port on it. Is that one of the famously long-lived York compressors? http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:34 AM, Peter Frederick wrote: > > No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. By aftermarket you mean fitted by the dealer, right? Are these the Behr units that are often mentioned or are there some /8s out there with other kinds of A/C? > if AC is fitted, there is a rotary switch on the console that switches the > air from from heat > to recirculate only AC via the dash vents, and switches from the heater fan > to the AC fan. Aha. So you can tell by the presence of that switch that A/C is fitted? Obviously the best check would be to look for a compressor and so on under the hood, but I'm thinking about how to tell from sellers' pictures if there isn't a good one of the engine. In the CL ad I originally posted, however, methinks in the pic of the engine I see a compressor at the bottom left---at least it has two thick lines coming off and one has a service port on it. Is that one of the famously long-lived York compressors? http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
No ACC in any w114/115 chassis, only manual (aftermarket) AC. The four levers are for on/off, floor/windshield, and heat (one on each side). Center vent is manual, and if AC is fitted, there is a rotary switch on the console that switches the air from from heat to recirculate only AC via the dash vents, and switches from the heater fan to the AC fan. The rotary switch in the center is for the fan, works either one depending on the setting of the AC rotary switch. W123/W116 got ACC, all earlier ones are manual aftermarket style AC. Peter -Original Message- >From: Alex Chamberlain >Sent: Aug 4, 2010 12:26 PM >To: Mercedes Discussion List >Subject: [MBZ] W114 300D climate controls > >http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html > >In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for >this vintage of 300D? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the >sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup >with separate blowers? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I >thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or >vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. > >I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats >appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. >If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all >over it. Wonder if "everything works" includes the heater blower? > >Alex > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com >For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W114 300D climate controls
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/1874125467.html In the 5th picture down, is that a normal climate control setup for this vintage of 300D? What's with the knobs near the stereo and the sliders above in two separate groups---is that the factory A/C setup with separate blowers? I am not particularly familiar with /8s, but I thought they came with either the Evil Chrysler ACC, or vertical-slider manual controls like a W123 240D. I love the jack-o'-lantern orange on this one---too bad the seats appear to have been changed out from a saddle interior to parchment. If it were a stick 240D rather than an automatic, though, I'd be all over it. Wonder if "everything works" includes the heater blower? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it
Three 10mm nuts hold it in. One center and one each about 30cm in from the A pillar Same as a 107, then. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it
Remove the center console take out the vent controls remove steering wheel cluster comes out too under dash panels go away push seat all the way back and lie down with head under dash rip out the heat ducting feel around under the dash for the three nuts sweat like a beast, curse your lineage, both sides, consider how your present position is pretty close to waterboarding without the water Get out of the car, have a cold drink and ponder your need for the damn dash in the first place, then crawl back in Having calmed down, you will locate the nuts and remove them. Have somebody help you CAREFULLY pull the dash up at the windscreen, then slowly up passenger side until clear, then back and clear driver side. If glass is not present it works a whole bunch better clay On Oct 8, 2009, at 8:15 PM, TE wrote: Yabbut how do you get to them? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it Three 10mm nuts hold it in. One center and one each about 30cm in from the A pillar clay On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:30 PM, TE wrote: I was recently trying to take the dash out of a W115 at the pull a part to replace the one in my 240D, but after taking off the bottom support rods, I couldn't figure out how to get to whatever is holding it behind the dash. The center console was previously removed. Any tips? TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Michael LaFleur Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it I've replaced the fan on a W115 a little over 20 years ago. I've also removed dashs from W123s ans W201s. The W115 was by far the worst. I even tried to drive the W115 without the dash and I forgot about the oil pressure sensor line and felt the hot oil on my leg. I tried to put my thumb over the line and drive back to my parking spot but the pressure was too great and oil too hot. Mike LaFleur From: David Bruckmann To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 1:14:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it Removing the dash on a W123 is child's play. I'm told, however, that removing the dash on a 114/115 is the extreme opposite and takes about a day. That's why the death of the fan motor has often meant the death of the car; the process of getting to the fan is a little like unearthing the evap unit on a W140. Jim Cathey wrote: Hey, it can't be _that_ bad! It's just a dash fer cryin out loud. I've R&R'd 107 dashes more than I'd like, and R'd an uncracked 123 once at the junkyard. (Still hanging in my garage.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091007/64 1c440b/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it
Yabbut how do you get to them? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Redghost Sent: Thursday, October 08, 2009 7:46 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it Three 10mm nuts hold it in. One center and one each about 30cm in from the A pillar clay On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:30 PM, TE wrote: > I was recently trying to take the dash out of a W115 at the pull a > part to > replace the one in my 240D, but after taking off the bottom support > rods, I > couldn't figure out how to get to whatever is holding it behind the > dash. > > The center console was previously removed. Any tips? > > TE > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com > ] > On Behalf Of Michael LaFleur > Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:26 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying > it > > I've replaced the fan on a W115 a little over 20 years ago. I've also > removed dashs from W123s ans W201s. > > The W115 was by far the worst. > > I even tried to drive the W115 without the dash and I forgot about > the oil > pressure sensor line and felt the hot oil on my leg. > > I tried to put my thumb over the line and drive back to my parking > spot but > the pressure was too great and oil too hot. > > Mike LaFleur > > > > > ________ > From: David Bruckmann > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 1:14:48 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying > it > > Removing the dash on a W123 is child's play. I'm told, however, that > removing the dash on a 114/115 is the extreme opposite and takes > about a > day. That's why the death of the fan motor has often meant the death > of the > car; the process of getting to the fan is a little like unearthing > the evap > unit on a W140. > > > Jim Cathey wrote: >> >> Hey, it can't be _that_ bad! It's just a dash fer cryin >> out loud. I've R&R'd 107 dashes more than I'd like, and >> R'd an uncracked 123 once at the junkyard. (Still hanging >> in my garage.) > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091007/64 > 1c440b/attachment.html> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it
Three 10mm nuts hold it in. One center and one each about 30cm in from the A pillar clay On Oct 7, 2009, at 8:30 PM, TE wrote: I was recently trying to take the dash out of a W115 at the pull a part to replace the one in my 240D, but after taking off the bottom support rods, I couldn't figure out how to get to whatever is holding it behind the dash. The center console was previously removed. Any tips? TE -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com ] On Behalf Of Michael LaFleur Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 1:26 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it I've replaced the fan on a W115 a little over 20 years ago. I've also removed dashs from W123s ans W201s. The W115 was by far the worst. I even tried to drive the W115 without the dash and I forgot about the oil pressure sensor line and felt the hot oil on my leg. I tried to put my thumb over the line and drive back to my parking spot but the pressure was too great and oil too hot. Mike LaFleur From: David Bruckmann To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2009 1:14:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] W114 - How to remove dash wood without destroying it Removing the dash on a W123 is child's play. I'm told, however, that removing the dash on a 114/115 is the extreme opposite and takes about a day. That's why the death of the fan motor has often meant the death of the car; the process of getting to the fan is a little like unearthing the evap unit on a W140. Jim Cathey wrote: Hey, it can't be _that_ bad! It's just a dash fer cryin out loud. I've R&R'd 107 dashes more than I'd like, and R'd an uncracked 123 once at the junkyard. (Still hanging in my garage.) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20091007/64 1c440b/attachment.html> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com