Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-20 Thread Curt Raymond
A one car garage is a severe handicap! ;)

Seriously though I don't know why a roller job couldn't look as good as you'd 
want it to, its really all about the cut and polish job. I didn't even bother, 
just got it so the orange peel wasn't too bad and left it alone. Its actually 
weathered quite well. I just scuffed up the hood, which was red, and started 
coating. I was sanding (with 400 no less *shudder*) every coat at first which 
is WAY too much. I should have been using 1500 every 3rd coat or so. I think I 
ended up with ~15 coats but thats only because I scrubbed a bunch clean off, 
learning process and all.

Once the final coat was down you'd want to a 2000 grit level, then clearcoat, 
then cut and polish and it'd look great. MASSIVE amount of work though. That 
said to take any car to that level with any process (roller or gun) is going to 
be a massive amount of work...

-Curt

Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:12:04 -0500
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Curt,

You're well on your way to Pebble Beach. ;-) hee hee.  It's all about the
final coat of Zymol.

Ed
300E

On 20 December 2010 09:33, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy
> did?
> http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm
> Its all about how much prep you do.
> Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I
> do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might
> have been worth painting to match.
> I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with
> a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special
> amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is
> pretty dirty...
>
> -Curt


  
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-20 Thread Max Dillon
Yes - that is the website which inspires me.

-Max

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:33 AM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

*Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy
did?
http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm
Its all about how much prep you do.
Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I do
say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might have
been worth painting to match.
I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with
a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special
amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is
pretty dirty...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500
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If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you
might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon  wrote:

> If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday
> night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel
> consumption would be too much of an issue.
>
> -Max


  
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-20 Thread E M
Somebody got a little carried away with the old polishing wheel, eh.  I have
been given two of them, and I'm frightened to plug them in.  I've been
warned, extreme caution must be used around any creases in the metal, as the
wheel can buzz it down to primer in no time, if you don't keep it moving.
It's ok, hand waxing the old cars are a few of the only pleasures I get
anyway.

Ed
300E

On 20 December 2010 10:15, WILTON  wrote:

> If y'all are not careful, I may hafta post a photo of my Tower Paint spray
> job I did coupla months ago on a section of the left rear door (between
> pinstrip and lower window chrome strip) on my black 91 350SDL.  SWMBO's
> camera is mess up, though, so you'll just hafta take my word for it; it
> looks just like the adjoining paint that came from Stuttgart 20 years ago.
> Somebody (not I) had evidently done a lot of buffing/polishing/rubbing on
> that section and rubbed paint off to the primer in 2 small spots.  'May have
> been somebody's chauffeur in the 4 years before I got the car nearly 16
> years ago.
>
> Wilton
>
> - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" <
> apchamberl...@gmail.com>
>
> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" 
> Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:43 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
>
>
>  On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy
>>> did?
>>> http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm
>>> Its all about how much prep you do.
>>>
>>
>> Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the
>> pictures:
>> http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm
>>
>> Alex
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-20 Thread WILTON
If y'all are not careful, I may hafta post a photo of my Tower Paint spray 
job I did coupla months ago on a section of the left rear door (between 
pinstrip and lower window chrome strip) on my black 91 350SDL.  SWMBO's 
camera is mess up, though, so you'll just hafta take my word for it; it 
looks just like the adjoining paint that came from Stuttgart 20 years ago. 
Somebody (not I) had evidently done a lot of buffing/polishing/rubbing on 
that section and rubbed paint off to the primer in 2 small spots.  'May have 
been somebody's chauffeur in the 4 years before I got the car nearly 16 
years ago.


Wilton

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Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?


On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond  
wrote:
*Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy 
did?

http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm
Its all about how much prep you do.


Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the 
pictures:

http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-20 Thread E M
Curt,

You're well on your way to Pebble Beach. ;-) hee hee.  It's all about the
final coat of Zymol.

Ed
300E

On 20 December 2010 09:33, Curt Raymond  wrote:

> *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy
> did?
> http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm
> Its all about how much prep you do.
> Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I
> do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might
> have been worth painting to match.
> I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with
> a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special
> amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is
> pretty dirty...
>
> -Curt
>
> Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500
> From: E M 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
> Message-ID:
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you
> might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-)
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon  wrote:
>
> > If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday
> > night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel
> > consumption would be too much of an issue.
> >
> > -Max
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-20 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did?
> http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm
> Its all about how much prep you do.

Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the pictures:
http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm

Alex

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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-20 Thread Curt Raymond
*Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did?
http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm
Its all about how much prep you do.
Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I do 
say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might have been 
worth painting to match.
I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with a 
roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special 
amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is pretty 
dirty...

-Curt

Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500
From: E M 
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you
might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon  wrote:

> If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday
> night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel
> consumption would be too much of an issue.
>
> -Max


  
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread E M
Very wise thinking there Max! ;-)

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 23:05, Max Dillon  wrote:

> Ed, but you see, the low cost of the paint job figures into the true price
> of the car, which is "How much will SWMBO let me spend?"  Let's say I spend
> $1000 on the car, and then $1000 (or more!!) on paint.  Then I'll have a
> beautifully painted in car, in which I can sleep every night - NOT!
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of E M
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:53 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
>
> If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you
> might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-)
>
> Ed
> 300E
>
> On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon  wrote:
>
> > If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday
> > night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel
> > consumption would be too much of an issue.
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:
> mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> > On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
> > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
> >
> > Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all
> > round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of
> > transportation.  Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87
> > 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium.
> >
> > Peter
> >
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Ed, but you see, the low cost of the paint job figures into the true price
of the car, which is "How much will SWMBO let me spend?"  Let's say I spend
$1000 on the car, and then $1000 (or more!!) on paint.  Then I'll have a
beautifully painted in car, in which I can sleep every night - NOT!

-Max

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of E M
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you
might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon  wrote:

> If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday
> night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel
> consumption would be too much of an issue.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
>
> Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all
> round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of
> transportation.  Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87
> 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread E M
If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you
might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon  wrote:

> If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday
> night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel
> consumption would be too much of an issue.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
>
> Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all
> round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of
> transportation.  Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87
> 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday
night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel
consumption would be too much of an issue.

-Max

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all  
round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of  
transportation.  Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87  
300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread toms cat1

I like that.  
 
"As the saying goes, you can ask whatever you want for something, but it's
only worth what someone is willing to pay you for it."

And its Corollary:
No matter what YOU think it is worth, it is really only worth what his wife is 
going to let him pay you for it.  
 
:)
 
Tom Schuch
SE Connecticut
1975 W115 300D 
and a bunch of BMWs
 
 
 
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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 16:02:23 -0500
From: E M 
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If you wanted a project car, and you knew you had to justify the price to
your wife, pretty much figure that's the story some guys going to have to
pitch to his wife. So, it's not what the car is worth, but what amount do
you think some guy's wife would tolerate for a hobby for hubby? What would
your wife let you pay for it, if it was a stray looking for a new home?

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 15:45, Max Dillon  wrote:

> OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
>
> The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say. Might be
> worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less. Look around the net and see what they
> are selling for.

  
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread E M
There was a recent article in out local paper here.  A former PM of ours,
drove an old Mercedes 300SL.  His son, while in school, purchased an old 300
SEL, which his friends called, the Staff car.  His Dad, the PM said it was a
silly purchase, as the running costs were very high, especially for a Uni
student.

Many years later, when he inherited his Dad's old SL, he said the SEL was
good training, for what it was going to cost to keep up and run a vintage
SL.  He keeps the car at a local MB dealer, after a full restoration and
ongoing proper servicing.  It comes out on special occasions.

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 17:16, Peter Frederick  wrote:

> Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all round,
> it's just that they really aren't an economic means of transportation.  Mine
> does much better in the snow and ice than my 87 300D, but I still hate to
> drive it at 14 mpg on premium.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Peter Frederick
Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all  
round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of  
transportation.  Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87  
300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Bingo - what price does SWMBO think is a good price?  That is the
question...

-Max

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On Behalf Of E M
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:02 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

If you wanted a project car, and you knew you had to justify the price to
your wife, pretty much figure that's the story some guys going to have to
pitch to his wife.  So, it's not what the car is worth, but what amount do
you think some guy's wife would tolerate for a hobby for hubby?  What would
your wife let you pay for it, if it was a stray looking for a new home?

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 15:45, Max Dillon  wrote:

> OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
>
> The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say.  Might be
> worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less.  Look around the net and see what they
> are selling for.
>
> Max Dillon wrote:
> > Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another
> much
> > better looking car, and she'll claim both!
> >
> > So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically
> > challenged '72 280SEL?
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:
> mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> > On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
> > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
> >
> > Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever be
> > kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from
> > driving
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
> >
> >> My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL.  It is very
> >> straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a
> >> different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which
> is
> >> now flaking off.  Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the
> >>
> > lower
> >
> >> half a caramel color.  So, to make the car really nice, it will need to
> be
> >> sanded and painted.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC,
and
> >> he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with
> it.
> >> He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but
I
> >> have not yet seen the car.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the
> >>
> > style
> >
> >> of this car.  SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery
of
> >> taking on another "project".  I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job
> >> would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the
> streets.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Very respectfully,
> >> /s/
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '87 300TD 332k miles
> >>
> >> '95 E300 277k miles
> >>
> >> '73 Balboa 20
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread E M
If you wanted a project car, and you knew you had to justify the price to
your wife, pretty much figure that's the story some guys going to have to
pitch to his wife.  So, it's not what the car is worth, but what amount do
you think some guy's wife would tolerate for a hobby for hubby?  What would
your wife let you pay for it, if it was a stray looking for a new home?

Ed
300E

On 19 December 2010 15:45, Max Dillon  wrote:

> OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed.
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
>
> The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say.  Might be
> worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less.  Look around the net and see what they
> are selling for.
>
> Max Dillon wrote:
> > Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another
> much
> > better looking car, and she'll claim both!
> >
> > So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically
> > challenged '72 280SEL?
> >
> > -Max
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:
> mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> > On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
> > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
> >
> > Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever be
> > kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from
> > driving
> >
> > --R
> >
> > On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
> >
> >> My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL.  It is very
> >> straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a
> >> different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which
> is
> >> now flaking off.  Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the
> >>
> > lower
> >
> >> half a caramel color.  So, to make the car really nice, it will need to
> be
> >> sanded and painted.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and
> >> he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with
> it.
> >> He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I
> >> have not yet seen the car.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the
> >>
> > style
> >
> >> of this car.  SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of
> >> taking on another "project".  I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job
> >> would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the
> streets.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Very respectfully,
> >> /s/
> >> Max Dillon
> >> Charleston SC
> >> '87 300TD 332k miles
> >>
> >> '95 E300 277k miles
> >>
> >> '73 Balboa 20
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Thanks Peter - good info re: mileage - hadn't considered that aspect.

-Max

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On Behalf Of Peter Frederick
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:16 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

All depends on the local market.  It is no longer likely you will  
find a mechanic who can work on one unless they specialize in  
antiques, they get horrible milage (12-16, usually more to the low  
end), parts are getting scarce, too.

Wonderful cars in good shape, but I think mine is sucumbing to rust  
disease at last.  Sad, but I really can't use a car that gets 12 mpg.

Fully restored they go for about $12000 if you can find a buyer, but  
sedans are never a collector's item.

Mine is available if anyone wants one, I'm not driving it and hate to  
junk it, but need to get some cars out of the drive.

Peter

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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed.

-Max

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say.  Might be 
worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less.  Look around the net and see what they 
are selling for.

Max Dillon wrote:
> Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another
much
> better looking car, and she'll claim both!
>
> So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically
> challenged '72 280SEL? 
>
> -Max
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
> On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
> Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
>
> Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever be 
> kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from 
> driving
>
> --R
>
> On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
>   
>> My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL.  It is very
>> straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a
>> different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is
>> now flaking off.  Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the
>> 
> lower
>   
>> half a caramel color.  So, to make the car really nice, it will need to
be
>> sanded and painted.
>>
>>
>>
>> It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and
>> he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it.
>> He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I
>> have not yet seen the car.
>>
>>
>>
>> I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the
>> 
> style
>   
>> of this car.  SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of
>> taking on another "project".  I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job
>> would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets.
>>
>>
>>
>> Very respectfully,
>> /s/
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD 332k miles
>>
>> '95 E300 277k miles
>>
>> '73 Balboa 20
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Peter Frederick
All depends on the local market.  It is no longer likely you will  
find a mechanic who can work on one unless they specialize in  
antiques, they get horrible milage (12-16, usually more to the low  
end), parts are getting scarce, too.


Wonderful cars in good shape, but I think mine is sucumbing to rust  
disease at last.  Sad, but I really can't use a car that gets 12 mpg.


Fully restored they go for about $12000 if you can find a buyer, but  
sedans are never a collector's item.


Mine is available if anyone wants one, I'm not driving it and hate to  
junk it, but need to get some cars out of the drive.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin
The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say.  Might be 
worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less.  Look around the net and see what they 
are selling for.


Max Dillon wrote:

Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another much
better looking car, and she'll claim both!

So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically
challenged '72 280SEL? 


-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever be 
kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from 
driving


--R

On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
  

My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL.  It is very
straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a
different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is
now flaking off.  Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the


lower
  

half a caramel color.  So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be
sanded and painted.



It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and
he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it.
He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I
have not yet seen the car.



I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the


style
  

of this car.  SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of
taking on another "project".  I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job
would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets.



Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD 332k miles

'95 E300 277k miles

'73 Balboa 20





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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-19 Thread Max Dillon
Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another much
better looking car, and she'll claim both!

So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically
challenged '72 280SEL? 

-Max

-Original Message-
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever be 
kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from 
driving

--R

On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
> My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL.  It is very
> straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a
> different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is
> now flaking off.  Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the
lower
> half a caramel color.  So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be
> sanded and painted.
>
>
>
> It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and
> he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it.
> He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I
> have not yet seen the car.
>
>
>
> I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the
style
> of this car.  SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of
> taking on another "project".  I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job
> would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets.
>
>
>
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD 332k miles
>
> '95 E300 277k miles
>
> '73 Balboa 20
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-18 Thread Max Dillon
HaHaHa.  My Dad never keeps a car longer than about three years, almost like
our Donald.  

-Max

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On Behalf Of Rich Thomas
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever be 
kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from 
driving

--R

On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote:
> My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL.  It is very
> straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a
> different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is
> now flaking off.  Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the
lower
> half a caramel color.  So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be
> sanded and painted.
>
>
>
> It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and
> he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it.
> He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I
> have not yet seen the car.
>
>
>
> I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the
style
> of this car.  SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of
> taking on another "project".  I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job
> would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets.
>
>
>
> Very respectfully,
> /s/
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD 332k miles
>
> '95 E300 277k miles
>
> '73 Balboa 20
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-18 Thread Rich Thomas

Too.

--R

On 12/18/2010 2:00 PM, Mitch Haley wrote:

Rich Thomas wrote:
Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever 
be kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from 
driving


How few, 12?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-18 Thread Mitch Haley

Rich Thomas wrote:
Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever be 
kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from 
driving


How few, 12?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-18 Thread Rich Thomas
Max, that is your DAD's car!  If you don't adopt it you will forever be 
kicking yourself.  And your daughter is only a few years away from 
driving


--R

On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote:

My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL.  It is very
straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a
different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is
now flaking off.  Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower
half a caramel color.  So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be
sanded and painted.



It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and
he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it.
He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I
have not yet seen the car.



I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style
of this car.  SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of
taking on another "project".  I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job
would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets.



Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD 332k miles

'95 E300 277k miles

'73 Balboa 20





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[MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?

2010-12-18 Thread Max Dillon
My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL.  It is very
straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a
different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is
now flaking off.  Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower
half a caramel color.  So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be
sanded and painted.

 

It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and
he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it.
He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I
have not yet seen the car.

 

I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style
of this car.  SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of
taking on another "project".  I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job
would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets.

 

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD 332k miles

'95 E300 277k miles 

'73 Balboa 20

 

 

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