Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
A one car garage is a severe handicap! ;) Seriously though I don't know why a roller job couldn't look as good as you'd want it to, its really all about the cut and polish job. I didn't even bother, just got it so the orange peel wasn't too bad and left it alone. Its actually weathered quite well. I just scuffed up the hood, which was red, and started coating. I was sanding (with 400 no less *shudder*) every coat at first which is WAY too much. I should have been using 1500 every 3rd coat or so. I think I ended up with ~15 coats but thats only because I scrubbed a bunch clean off, learning process and all. Once the final coat was down you'd want to a 2000 grit level, then clearcoat, then cut and polish and it'd look great. MASSIVE amount of work though. That said to take any car to that level with any process (roller or gun) is going to be a massive amount of work... -Curt Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 10:12:04 -0500 From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Curt, You're well on your way to Pebble Beach. ;-) hee hee. It's all about the final coat of Zymol. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 09:33, Curt Raymond wrote: > *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy > did? > http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm > Its all about how much prep you do. > Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I > do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might > have been worth painting to match. > I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with > a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special > amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is > pretty dirty... > > -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Yes - that is the website which inspires me. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:33 AM To: Diesel List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might have been worth painting to match. I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is pretty dirty... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500 From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon wrote: > If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday > night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel > consumption would be too much of an issue. > > -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Somebody got a little carried away with the old polishing wheel, eh. I have been given two of them, and I'm frightened to plug them in. I've been warned, extreme caution must be used around any creases in the metal, as the wheel can buzz it down to primer in no time, if you don't keep it moving. It's ok, hand waxing the old cars are a few of the only pleasures I get anyway. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 10:15, WILTON wrote: > If y'all are not careful, I may hafta post a photo of my Tower Paint spray > job I did coupla months ago on a section of the left rear door (between > pinstrip and lower window chrome strip) on my black 91 350SDL. SWMBO's > camera is mess up, though, so you'll just hafta take my word for it; it > looks just like the adjoining paint that came from Stuttgart 20 years ago. > Somebody (not I) had evidently done a lot of buffing/polishing/rubbing on > that section and rubbed paint off to the primer in 2 small spots. 'May have > been somebody's chauffeur in the 4 years before I got the car nearly 16 > years ago. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" < > apchamberl...@gmail.com> > > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" > Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:43 AM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > > On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond >> wrote: >> >>> *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy >>> did? >>> http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm >>> Its all about how much prep you do. >>> >> >> Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the >> pictures: >> http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm >> >> Alex >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
If y'all are not careful, I may hafta post a photo of my Tower Paint spray job I did coupla months ago on a section of the left rear door (between pinstrip and lower window chrome strip) on my black 91 350SDL. SWMBO's camera is mess up, though, so you'll just hafta take my word for it; it looks just like the adjoining paint that came from Stuttgart 20 years ago. Somebody (not I) had evidently done a lot of buffing/polishing/rubbing on that section and rubbed paint off to the primer in 2 small spots. 'May have been somebody's chauffeur in the 4 years before I got the car nearly 16 years ago. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Alex Chamberlain" To: "Mercedes Discussion List" Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 9:43 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the pictures: http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Curt, You're well on your way to Pebble Beach. ;-) hee hee. It's all about the final coat of Zymol. Ed 300E On 20 December 2010 09:33, Curt Raymond wrote: > *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy > did? > http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm > Its all about how much prep you do. > Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I > do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might > have been worth painting to match. > I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with > a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special > amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is > pretty dirty... > > -Curt > > Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500 > From: E M > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you > might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) > > Ed > 300E > > On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon wrote: > > > If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday > > night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel > > consumption would be too much of an issue. > > > > -Max > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
On Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 6:33 AM, Curt Raymond wrote: > *Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? > http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm > Its all about how much prep you do. Here's another roller paint job that looks pretty darn good in the pictures: http://www.saablink.net/forum/tsl-members-saab-pics/44402.htm Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
*Ahem* its actually a $50 paint job and have you seen the Corvair the guy did? http://www.rickwrench.com/index79.htm Its all about how much prep you do. Fred saw the hood I did on my 240D for ~$5 and it looked pretty okay if I do say so myself. If the rest of the car hadn't been a disaster it might have been worth painting to match. I'm convinced that if you take your time you can do just as good a job with a roller as with a gun. It takes longer sure but doesn't require any special amount of skill or equipment. Worst problem I had was that my garage is pretty dirty... -Curt Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 22:52:47 -0500 From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon wrote: > If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday > night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel > consumption would be too much of an issue. > > -Max ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Very wise thinking there Max! ;-) Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 23:05, Max Dillon wrote: > Ed, but you see, the low cost of the paint job figures into the true price > of the car, which is "How much will SWMBO let me spend?" Let's say I spend > $1000 on the car, and then $1000 (or more!!) on paint. Then I'll have a > beautifully painted in car, in which I can sleep every night - NOT! > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of E M > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:53 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you > might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) > > Ed > 300E > > On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon wrote: > > > If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday > > night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel > > consumption would be too much of an issue. > > > > -Max > > > > -Original Message- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > On Behalf Of Peter Frederick > > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > > > Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all > > round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of > > transportation. Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87 > > 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium. > > > > Peter > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Ed, but you see, the low cost of the paint job figures into the true price of the car, which is "How much will SWMBO let me spend?" Let's say I spend $1000 on the car, and then $1000 (or more!!) on paint. Then I'll have a beautifully painted in car, in which I can sleep every night - NOT! -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon wrote: > If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday > night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel > consumption would be too much of an issue. > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Peter Frederick > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all > round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of > transportation. Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87 > 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium. > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
If it's going to be a garage queen and saved for special occasions, you might want to rethink that $70 bucket and roller paint job. hee hee. ;-) Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 22:40, Max Dillon wrote: > If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday > night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel > consumption would be too much of an issue. > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Peter Frederick > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all > round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of > transportation. Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87 > 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium. > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
If I bought this car, it would mostly be a garage queen, used for Friday night dates and other social occasions, so I don't think the fuel consumption would be too much of an issue. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:16 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of transportation. Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
I like that. "As the saying goes, you can ask whatever you want for something, but it's only worth what someone is willing to pay you for it." And its Corollary: No matter what YOU think it is worth, it is really only worth what his wife is going to let him pay you for it. :) Tom Schuch SE Connecticut 1975 W115 300D and a bunch of BMWs Message: 10 Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 16:02:23 -0500 From: E M To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 If you wanted a project car, and you knew you had to justify the price to your wife, pretty much figure that's the story some guys going to have to pitch to his wife. So, it's not what the car is worth, but what amount do you think some guy's wife would tolerate for a hobby for hubby? What would your wife let you pay for it, if it was a stray looking for a new home? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:45, Max Dillon wrote: > OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed. > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say. Might be > worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less. Look around the net and see what they > are selling for. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
There was a recent article in out local paper here. A former PM of ours, drove an old Mercedes 300SL. His son, while in school, purchased an old 300 SEL, which his friends called, the Staff car. His Dad, the PM said it was a silly purchase, as the running costs were very high, especially for a Uni student. Many years later, when he inherited his Dad's old SL, he said the SEL was good training, for what it was going to cost to keep up and run a vintage SL. He keeps the car at a local MB dealer, after a full restoration and ongoing proper servicing. It comes out on special occasions. Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 17:16, Peter Frederick wrote: > Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all round, > it's just that they really aren't an economic means of transportation. Mine > does much better in the snow and ice than my 87 300D, but I still hate to > drive it at 14 mpg on premium. > > Peter > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Not that they aren't a wonderful car to drive, and a great ride all round, it's just that they really aren't an economic means of transportation. Mine does much better in the snow and ice than my 87 300D, but I still hate to drive it at 14 mpg on premium. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Bingo - what price does SWMBO think is a good price? That is the question... -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of E M Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 4:02 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? If you wanted a project car, and you knew you had to justify the price to your wife, pretty much figure that's the story some guys going to have to pitch to his wife. So, it's not what the car is worth, but what amount do you think some guy's wife would tolerate for a hobby for hubby? What would your wife let you pay for it, if it was a stray looking for a new home? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:45, Max Dillon wrote: > OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed. > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say. Might be > worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less. Look around the net and see what they > are selling for. > > Max Dillon wrote: > > Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another > much > > better looking car, and she'll claim both! > > > > So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically > > challenged '72 280SEL? > > > > -Max > > > > -Original Message- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > On Behalf Of Rich Thomas > > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > > > Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be > > kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from > > driving > > > > --R > > > > On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > > > >> My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very > >> straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a > >> different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which > is > >> now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the > >> > > lower > > > >> half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to > be > >> sanded and painted. > >> > >> > >> > >> It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and > >> he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with > it. > >> He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I > >> have not yet seen the car. > >> > >> > >> > >> I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the > >> > > style > > > >> of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of > >> taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job > >> would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the > streets. > >> > >> > >> > >> Very respectfully, > >> /s/ > >> Max Dillon > >> Charleston SC > >> '87 300TD 332k miles > >> > >> '95 E300 277k miles > >> > >> '73 Balboa 20 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > &g
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
If you wanted a project car, and you knew you had to justify the price to your wife, pretty much figure that's the story some guys going to have to pitch to his wife. So, it's not what the car is worth, but what amount do you think some guy's wife would tolerate for a hobby for hubby? What would your wife let you pay for it, if it was a stray looking for a new home? Ed 300E On 19 December 2010 15:45, Max Dillon wrote: > OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed. > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin > Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say. Might be > worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less. Look around the net and see what they > are selling for. > > Max Dillon wrote: > > Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another > much > > better looking car, and she'll claim both! > > > > So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically > > challenged '72 280SEL? > > > > -Max > > > > -Original Message- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > On Behalf Of Rich Thomas > > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > > > Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be > > kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from > > driving > > > > --R > > > > On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > > > >> My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very > >> straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a > >> different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which > is > >> now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the > >> > > lower > > > >> half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to > be > >> sanded and painted. > >> > >> > >> > >> It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and > >> he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with > it. > >> He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I > >> have not yet seen the car. > >> > >> > >> > >> I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the > >> > > style > > > >> of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of > >> taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job > >> would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the > streets. > >> > >> > >> > >> Very respectfully, > >> /s/ > >> Max Dillon > >> Charleston SC > >> '87 300TD 332k miles > >> > >> '95 E300 277k miles > >> > >> '73 Balboa 20 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Thanks Peter - good info re: mileage - hadn't considered that aspect. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Peter Frederick Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 10:16 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? All depends on the local market. It is no longer likely you will find a mechanic who can work on one unless they specialize in antiques, they get horrible milage (12-16, usually more to the low end), parts are getting scarce, too. Wonderful cars in good shape, but I think mine is sucumbing to rust disease at last. Sad, but I really can't use a car that gets 12 mpg. Fully restored they go for about $12000 if you can find a buyer, but sedans are never a collector's item. Mine is available if anyone wants one, I'm not driving it and hate to junk it, but need to get some cars out of the drive. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
OK thanks Kaleb, generally you've got the true price of a car nailed. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:51 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say. Might be worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less. Look around the net and see what they are selling for. Max Dillon wrote: > Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another much > better looking car, and she'll claim both! > > So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically > challenged '72 280SEL? > > -Max > > -Original Message- > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > On Behalf Of Rich Thomas > Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM > To: Mercedes Discussion List > Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? > > Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be > kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from > driving > > --R > > On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > >> My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very >> straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a >> different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is >> now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the >> > lower > >> half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be >> sanded and painted. >> >> >> >> It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and >> he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. >> He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I >> have not yet seen the car. >> >> >> >> I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the >> > style > >> of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of >> taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job >> would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. >> >> >> >> Very respectfully, >> /s/ >> Max Dillon >> Charleston SC >> '87 300TD 332k miles >> >> '95 E300 277k miles >> >> '73 Balboa 20 >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
All depends on the local market. It is no longer likely you will find a mechanic who can work on one unless they specialize in antiques, they get horrible milage (12-16, usually more to the low end), parts are getting scarce, too. Wonderful cars in good shape, but I think mine is sucumbing to rust disease at last. Sad, but I really can't use a car that gets 12 mpg. Fully restored they go for about $12000 if you can find a buyer, but sedans are never a collector's item. Mine is available if anyone wants one, I'm not driving it and hate to junk it, but need to get some cars out of the drive. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
The market is so screwed up right now I just dont want to say. Might be worth 1k, maybe more, maybe less. Look around the net and see what they are selling for. Max Dillon wrote: Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another much better looking car, and she'll claim both! So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically challenged '72 280SEL? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving --R On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be sanded and painted. It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I have not yet seen the car. I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Also, daughter has already claimed the '95; with my luck, I add another much better looking car, and she'll claim both! So no one has an opinion on the market for a solid but cosmetically challenged '72 280SEL? -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving --R On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very > straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a > different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is > now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower > half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be > sanded and painted. > > > > It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and > he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. > He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I > have not yet seen the car. > > > > I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style > of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of > taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job > would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. > > > > Very respectfully, > /s/ > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD 332k miles > > '95 E300 277k miles > > '73 Balboa 20 > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
HaHaHa. My Dad never keeps a car longer than about three years, almost like our Donald. -Max -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2010 1:53 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth? Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving --R On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: > My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very > straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a > different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is > now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower > half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be > sanded and painted. > > > > It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and > he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. > He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I > have not yet seen the car. > > > > I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style > of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of > taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job > would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. > > > > Very respectfully, > /s/ > Max Dillon > Charleston SC > '87 300TD 332k miles > > '95 E300 277k miles > > '73 Balboa 20 > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Too. --R On 12/18/2010 2:00 PM, Mitch Haley wrote: Rich Thomas wrote: Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving How few, 12? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Rich Thomas wrote: Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving How few, 12? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
Max, that is your DAD's car! If you don't adopt it you will forever be kicking yourself. And your daughter is only a few years away from driving --R On 12/18/2010 1:40 PM, Max Dillon wrote: My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be sanded and painted. It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I have not yet seen the car. I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] What is a '72 280SEL 4.5 worth?
My father is offering a 'family price' for his '72 280SEL. It is very straight and rust free, and the interior is fresh (transplant from a different car), but has been poorly painted in a two-tone scheme which is now flaking off. Original color looks like ivory, some PO painted the lower half a caramel color. So, to make the car really nice, it will need to be sanded and painted. It has an automatic transmission, fuel injected V8, after-market AC, and he's put a lot of time and $$ into fixing it up and is now bored with it. He bought it in AZ a few years ago, so it is supposedly rust free, but I have not yet seen the car. I need a third MB like I need a hole in my head, but I really like the style of this car. SWMBO also thinks it is a beauty, but she is also leery of taking on another "project". I'm thinking that an $80 roller-paint job would be in order, nice little summer project to keep me off the streets. Very respectfully, /s/ Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD 332k miles '95 E300 277k miles '73 Balboa 20 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com