Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Umm, from the folks I've talked to Sony buys the cheapest screens that Samsung puts out and their ratio of defects to number of screens out the door is higher to much higher. Sony's controller (at least on the units I've looked at) is worse, lower contrast ratio, slower refresh rates, worse ghosting on the screen. That may just be my eyes or the units I've looked at. Sonys are also generally at least a couple bucks more expensive for the same screen size. This is not to say that Sony has a bad tv but that its just not as good as the Samsung. I've got a Samsung 17 LCD computer monitor which is by far the best computer monitor I've ever had. I do wish I'd gone for the 21 instead of the 17 but at the time (a couple years ago) the price on the 21 was more than I could handle. Thinking now I might get the 21 and move the 17 to the second computer and replace the dying CRT. -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 14:16:21 -0800 From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed That is true, samsung makes the LCD. Sony though has a better controller and much better software in their TV. I would suspect that samsung sell sony the better screens for a price (fewer defects screen) and sony takes extra care in synching and playing with signal delivery quality. There are compromises made in each set, but the sony has a higher tolerance, so better quality out the door. at least from my persective - Get easy, one-click access to your favorites. Make Yahoo! your homepage. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
On Nov 29, 2007 6:09 AM, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Umm, from the folks I've talked to Sony buys the cheapest screens that Samsung puts out and their ratio of defects to number of screens out the door is higher to much higher. Sony's controller (at least on the units I've looked at) is worse, lower contrast ratio, slower refresh rates, worse ghosting on the screen. That may just be my eyes or the units I've looked at. Sonys are also generally at least a couple bucks more expensive for the same screen size. I have a low opinion of everything Sony. My impression is that they've been coasting on their reputation for a LONG time. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
The rear projector large screen HDTV are a good investment. There was a time when you had to recharge the plasma on a plasma TV, but I suspect you have dust, an old lamp, and some misalignment of the picture after 8 years. Could need that board, but why bother? I can fetch the large projector TV for pennies on CL or the freebie BB locally. Might have a look at your local source for used and could find the part for nothing. clay On 27 Nov 2007, at 11:00, Kaleb C. Striplin ((CAT)) wrote: So my Phillips Magnavox 60 bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
AFAIK Sony doesn't actually make any TV screens. Sony's LCDs are made by Samsung, I don't know about any other models. Sony's LCDs are funny, Samsung makes the screen, Sony makes the controller board. Samsung's screens have a better (ie higher) contrast ratio. If you look at them side by side (I'm thinking of the 32 inch so I've been comparing) the blacks on the Sony are really grey. The Samsung (at least in the 32, and 46 versions I've seen) is vastly superior. Oh its cheaper (sometimes considerably) too. -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:14:56 -0800 From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed We are researching 65 FPD, so have a stack of electronics mags and CR. Best bets are the Sony, samsung and mitsubishi. Panasonic is fine as well, just not up to the quality of the others. On another note, CR hates benz. All the reviewed cars are low reliability and on the do not purchase list. Wonder how long before they get out of the hole clay - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
On Nov 28, 2007 11:25 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Redghost wrote: That gets really pricey though. A good projector is $3k and a screen another $1k Wow!! A friend just bought a 720p projector for $1000 with a $200 rebate ($800 AR), and he bought a 100 screen (gray, gain of 1.5 I think) for $200. The setup was good enough for me! I'm am by no means a videophile (?) nor an audiophile though. 720p != good with a screen that big. The pixels are going to be the size of your thumbnail. Would drive me nuts, but maybe I'm too fussy. Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
That gets really pricey though. A good projector is $3k and a screen another $1k clay On 27 Nov 2007, at 11:34, John Robbins wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60 or so range since that is what my old TV is. If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100 screen. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
We are researching 65 FPD, so have a stack of electronics mags and CR. Best bets are the Sony, samsung and mitsubishi. Panasonic is fine as well, just not up to the quality of the others. On another note, CR hates benz. All the reviewed cars are low reliability and on the do not purchase list. Wonder how long before they get out of the hole clay On 27 Nov 2007, at 11:21, Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I wonder if those no name ones at sams will last though? Somebody posted a list of good brands and ones to stay away from. Might have to see if I can find that. Yea, I think he said it was for cooling or something. I guess it projects thru this fluid and if it clouds the pic is not as good. Anyway, he said those Phillips Magnavox tvs were junk when new. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? That is a projection TV, with 3 big CRTs that put out a lot of light and heat. They probably do have some sort of coolant (silicone?) to keep them from melting, and maybe it is like auto fluids that just use up their capabilities after a time of heating/cooling cycles. Not sure why that would affect the picture, but it sounds sorta reasonable. Perhaps you could try some of the German synthetic blinker fluid? Boards go bad too, temp cycling kills components. All the big retailers are fighting hard for your dollar, time to go work them over good. You might want to wait a coupla weeks to just before Christmas when they are reaching hard, then get a 30day price guarantee and keep an eye on post-Christmas prices. Sams Club had some nice TVs at decent prices on Saturday. Wifey was wanting a flat screen for the BR, they had some good prices on Vizios so I got a 32 LCD 720P. The display had no price on it, but there was a folded up paper there next to it, which I looked at to see if it was a price. Turns out it was an internal email listing about 40 products they were putting out with killer prices, on Friday (THIS IS BIG!! it said). Those TVs were on the list. While I was looking at it, some other guy came by and got one also. It looks very nice, kind of a mid-range quality and price it appears, and has some interesting features. Good for BR. It also found a bunch of the digital cable channels and HD channels too, without a cable box, but on weird numbers so I have to make up a menu for it. Or I might have to get another box now. They had some cheap DVD players too that upconvert and have HDMI connections, have not hooked that up yet. Merry Christmas to me! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Redghost wrote: That gets really pricey though. A good projector is $3k and a screen another $1k Wow!! A friend just bought a 720p projector for $1000 with a $200 rebate ($800 AR), and he bought a 100 screen (gray, gain of 1.5 I think) for $200. The setup was good enough for me! I'm am by no means a videophile (?) nor an audiophile though. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
On Nov 28, 2007 11:40 AM, John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what *does* bother me is how almost all HDTVs' analog to digital
conversion is so horrible!! All blurry artifacts...
Yeah, I don't like that either. One selling point of the Philips LCD
HDTV flatscreen I just bought was that it gives you some control over
video noise reduction. There are a couple of settings you can tweak
that minimize the artifacts, although old analog-video material ('80s
sitcom reruns, for instance) still doesn't look as good as it does on
an old tube TV.
Alex Chamberlain
'87 300D Turbo et al.
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Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: 720p != good with a screen that big. The pixels are going to be the size of your thumbnail. Would drive me nuts, but maybe I'm too fussy. I guess it depends on how close you sit? Maybe it doesn't bother me as much... what *does* bother me is how almost all HDTVs' analog to digital conversion is so horrible!! All blurry artifacts... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
I think the rule is 3 ft away for every 1 ft of diagonal picture size; otherwise, your eyes can pick up pixels. Just last night I was admiring how this new 32 Vizio LCD I got deals with analog channels, which look pretty bad on my big projection unit. I was watching the Everest show on Discovery, and it was letterboxed on the analog channel (for some reason they do not mirror shows on the HD channel). Looked sorta OK, then I zoomed it using one of the features the set has, for the letterboxed pic to fill the screen. It looked pretty good -- I was quite amazed. Perhaps it has a good rendering engine in it or something, but I was impressed. It was a bit blurry, but that is just the signal, but not as bad as I figured it would be, and the colors were quite good. --R John Robbins wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: 720p != good with a screen that big. The pixels are going to be the size of your thumbnail. Would drive me nuts, but maybe I'm too fussy. I guess it depends on how close you sit? Maybe it doesn't bother me as much... what *does* bother me is how almost all HDTVs' analog to digital conversion is so horrible!! All blurry artifacts... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
That is true, samsung makes the LCD. Sony though has a better controller and much better software in their TV. I would suspect that samsung sell sony the better screens for a price (fewer defects screen) and sony takes extra care in synching and playing with signal delivery quality. There are compromises made in each set, but the sony has a higher tolerance, so better quality out the door. at least from my persective On 28 Nov 2007, at 11:23, Curt Raymond wrote: AFAIK Sony doesn't actually make any TV screens. Sony's LCDs are made by Samsung, I don't know about any other models. Sony's LCDs are funny, Samsung makes the screen, Sony makes the controller board. Samsung's screens have a better (ie higher) contrast ratio. If you look at them side by side (I'm thinking of the 32 inch so I've been comparing) the blacks on the Sony are really grey. The Samsung (at least in the 32, and 46 versions I've seen) is vastly superior. Oh its cheaper (sometimes considerably) too. -Curt Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 11:14:56 -0800 From: Redghost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed We are researching 65 FPD, so have a stack of electronics mags and CR. Best bets are the Sony, samsung and mitsubishi. Panasonic is fine as well, just not up to the quality of the others. On another note, CR hates benz. All the reviewed cars are low reliability and on the do not purchase list. Wonder how long before they get out of the hole clay - Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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The other issue is the digital to analog to digital that gets wonky when you watch a DVD. Maybe we just have to muddle through until 2009 when it all goes digital and our TV is old tech, over priced and we can pay half for twice the TV. I keep trying to tell SWMBA to just hold on and wait, but she is intent on having a huge screen so #1 teen boy can have pals over to see big screen. They are all going to go blind with the porn they are going to watch anyway clay On 28 Nov 2007, at 11:40, John Robbins wrote: Alex Chamberlain wrote: 720p != good with a screen that big. The pixels are going to be the size of your thumbnail. Would drive me nuts, but maybe I'm too fussy. I guess it depends on how close you sit? Maybe it doesn't bother me as much... what *does* bother me is how almost all HDTVs' analog to digital conversion is so horrible!! All blurry artifacts... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
picture after 8 years. Could need that board, but why bother? I can fetch the large projector TV for pennies on CL or the freebie BB locally. Might have a look at your local source for used and could find the part for nothing. The local discount outlet has hundreds of rear-projection TV's. They're all in sheds stored outside, not exactly prime retail space if you know what I mean. Scrap prices, probably. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
That gets really pricey though. A good projector is $3k and a screen another $1k Our good-enough 720p Sony was $1500 with 80 screen through Costco. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
The local discount outlet has hundreds of rear-projection TV's. They're all in sheds stored outside, not exactly prime retail space if you know what I mean. Scrap prices, probably. Oh, and the fluid in many of these would be rainwater! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
That is a projection TV, with 3 big CRTs that put out a lot of light and heat. They probably do have some sort of coolant (silicone?) to keep them from melting, and maybe it is like auto fluids that just use up their capabilities after a time of heating/cooling cycles. Not sure why that would affect the picture, but it sounds sorta reasonable. Perhaps you could try some of the German synthetic blinker fluid? Boards go bad too, temp cycling kills components. All the big retailers are fighting hard for your dollar, time to go work them over good. You might want to wait a coupla weeks to just before Christmas when they are reaching hard, then get a 30day price guarantee and keep an eye on post-Christmas prices. Sams Club had some nice TVs at decent prices on Saturday. Wifey was wanting a flat screen for the BR, they had some good prices on Vizios so I got a 32 LCD 720P. The display had no price on it, but there was a folded up paper there next to it, which I looked at to see if it was a price. Turns out it was an internal email listing about 40 products they were putting out with killer prices, on Friday (THIS IS BIG!! it said). Those TVs were on the list. While I was looking at it, some other guy came by and got one also. It looks very nice, kind of a mid-range quality and price it appears, and has some interesting features. Good for BR. It also found a bunch of the digital cable channels and HD channels too, without a cable box, but on weird numbers so I have to make up a menu for it. Or I might have to get another box now. They had some cheap DVD players too that upconvert and have HDMI connections, have not hooked that up yet. Merry Christmas to me! --R Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) wrote: So my Phillips Magnavox 60 bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
in this age, there is always the option of fixing it yourself on the cheap. normally you can get a service manual and used parts easily and cheaply on ebay. it's like old mac laptops. $1200 to fix via apple. $27 to fix yourself. but my guess is that you know this already and really just want an excuse to upgrade. On 11/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my Phillips Magnavox 60 bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Just some places to look around for deals on new TVs... http://slickdeals.net/ http://dealnews.com/ http://www.fatwallet.com/c/18/ For a data point, it seems that 42 1080P TVs are going for ~1000 pretty regularly. Lots of other good stuff there as well :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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you don't have to know anything. you just research it online and they tell you how. you can then decide whether the job is too much for you or not. On 11/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I dont know the first thing about fixing tv's. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? in this age, there is always the option of fixing it yourself on the cheap. normally you can get a service manual and used parts easily and cheaply on ebay. it's like old mac laptops. $1200 to fix via apple. $27 to fix yourself. but my guess is that you know this already and really just want an excuse to upgrade. On 11/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my Phillips Magnavox 60 bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60 or so range since that is what my old TV is. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: John Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? Just some places to look around for deals on new TVs... http://slickdeals.net/ http://dealnews.com/ http://www.fatwallet.com/c/18/ For a data point, it seems that 42 1080P TVs are going for ~1000 pretty regularly. Lots of other good stuff there as well :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60 or so range since that is what my old TV is. If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100 screen. :) ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
I wonder if those no name ones at sams will last though? Somebody posted a list of good brands and ones to stay away from. Might have to see if I can find that. Yea, I think he said it was for cooling or something. I guess it projects thru this fluid and if it clouds the pic is not as good. Anyway, he said those Phillips Magnavox tvs were junk when new. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Rich Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? That is a projection TV, with 3 big CRTs that put out a lot of light and heat. They probably do have some sort of coolant (silicone?) to keep them from melting, and maybe it is like auto fluids that just use up their capabilities after a time of heating/cooling cycles. Not sure why that would affect the picture, but it sounds sorta reasonable. Perhaps you could try some of the German synthetic blinker fluid? Boards go bad too, temp cycling kills components. All the big retailers are fighting hard for your dollar, time to go work them over good. You might want to wait a coupla weeks to just before Christmas when they are reaching hard, then get a 30day price guarantee and keep an eye on post-Christmas prices. Sams Club had some nice TVs at decent prices on Saturday. Wifey was wanting a flat screen for the BR, they had some good prices on Vizios so I got a 32 LCD 720P. The display had no price on it, but there was a folded up paper there next to it, which I looked at to see if it was a price. Turns out it was an internal email listing about 40 products they were putting out with killer prices, on Friday (THIS IS BIG!! it said). Those TVs were on the list. While I was looking at it, some other guy came by and got one also. It looks very nice, kind of a mid-range quality and price it appears, and has some interesting features. Good for BR. It also found a bunch of the digital cable channels and HD channels too, without a cable box, but on weird numbers so I have to make up a menu for it. Or I might have to get another box now. They had some cheap DVD players too that upconvert and have HDMI connections, have not hooked that up yet. Merry Christmas to me! --R ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
I dont know the first thing about fixing tv's. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? in this age, there is always the option of fixing it yourself on the cheap. normally you can get a service manual and used parts easily and cheaply on ebay. it's like old mac laptops. $1200 to fix via apple. $27 to fix yourself. but my guess is that you know this already and really just want an excuse to upgrade. On 11/27/07, Kaleb C. Striplin (CAT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my Phillips Magnavox 60 bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
They have name brands -- Sony, Philips, Samsung. I think the Samsungs are about the best value. They had some huge ones there. Somewhere I read that Costco doubles the warranty, don't know about Sams. --R Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: I wonder if those no name ones at sams will last though? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:34:38 -0600, John wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60 or so range since that is what my old TV is. If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100 screen. :) The room doesn't even have to be darkish. A projector can be quite flexible. You can even get different images sizes depending on what you are watching! --Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:00:24 -0600, Kaleb wrote: So my Phillips Magnavox 60 bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. Yup. It's called Projection TV Coolant. You can buy it from MCM Electronics http://mcmelectronic.com Part number is 20-4275. A 16 oz bottle sells for $9 USD. I have never put an in, so I don't know whats involved. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Hell, maybe I will just try and fix it myself. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:00:24 -0600, Kaleb wrote: So my Phillips Magnavox 60 bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. Yup. It's called Projection TV Coolant. You can buy it from MCM Electronics http://mcmelectronic.com Part number is 20-4275. A 16 oz bottle sells for $9 USD. I have never put an in, so I don't know whats involved. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Yep, I think I will research what parts I need and how to replace and do it myself. Still need to get a new TV though. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? Hell, maybe I will just try and fix it myself. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730-Tulsa FSBO Supervisor - Original Message - From: Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV? It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:00:24 -0600, Kaleb wrote: So my Phillips Magnavox 60 bigscreen that I have had for about 8 years has been acting up. Had somebody come out and look at it today and they say it needs a new high voltage (?) signal board, and some sort of cooling fluid or something is cloudy which causes the picture to be not as good as it should be. I have never heard of fluid in a TV. They want $1200 to fix it so I will probably be looking for a HDTV from the info I got in the last thread about TV's. I imagine I will go the DLP route. Yup. It's called Projection TV Coolant. You can buy it from MCM Electronics http://mcmelectronic.com Part number is 20-4275. A 16 oz bottle sells for $9 USD. I have never put an in, so I don't know whats involved. -- Philip ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
On Nov 27, 2007 1:02 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:34:38 -0600, John wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60 or so range since that is what my old TV is. If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100 screen. :) A projector is a great idea as long as you budget for a replacement bulb at $300+ every year, more often if you have kids or other family members who leave the TV on all day. I went through that thought process, figured out it was a lot cheaper in the long run to spring for a big LCD up front. Finally went with a Philips 47 1080p for $1800 from Best Buy. Couldn't be happier with it. Better picture and much lighter and more compact than what it replaced (a 46 Mitsubishi rear-projection, one of the first 1080p TVs but no great shakes now). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
what's the worst that can happen - you'll have a broken tv? You already have one of those! On Nov 27, 2007 4:43 PM, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 27, 2007 1:02 PM, Fmiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems than at Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:34:38 -0600, John wrote: Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Im probably going to be looking for somthing in the 60 or so range since that is what my old TV is. If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100 screen. :) A projector is a great idea as long as you budget for a replacement bulb at $300+ every year, more often if you have kids or other family members who leave the TV on all day. I went through that thought process, figured out it was a lot cheaper in the long run to spring for a big LCD up front. Finally went with a Philips 47 1080p for $1800 from Best Buy. Couldn't be happier with it. Better picture and much lighter and more compact than what it replaced (a 46 Mitsubishi rear-projection, one of the first 1080p TVs but no great shakes now). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Sunil Hari [EMAIL PROTECTED] 513-205-7474 614-441-8164 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
Alex Chamberlain wrote: A projector is a great idea as long as you budget for a replacement bulb at $300+ every year, more often if you have kids or other family members who leave the TV on all day. Very true! I wouldn't have to worry about bulb replacement that often as my primary TV usage consists of video gaming (one week I'll play for 30 hours then go 6 weeks and only play for maybe 5 hours) and light actual TV watching. On the other hand, my parents leave the TV on all day... even when they aren't watching it. Drives me nuts! John -who would have a projector if he had room for it ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT, fluid in a TV?
If it is in a dark(ish) room get a projector. Then you get a 100 screen. :) If you're getting a projector, why not get a big screen? (Also smiley, our new projector is 80 and is pretty big.) -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
