Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 01 Jan 2020 09:31:46 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes
 wrote:

> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they?

We bought a 1984 Ford Ranger pickup new in 1984.
Its hardware was both inch and metric.
I presume they have moved further toward metric
in the years since.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century [resend]

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 01 Jan 2020 09:31:46 -0600 tyee165 via Mercedes
 wrote:

> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they?

We bought a 1984 Ford Ranger pickup new in 1984.
Its hardware was both inch and metric.
I presume they have moved further toward metric
in the years since.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah I had an 87 Blazer like that. Infuriating 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 1, 2020, at 8:45 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My 1986 Chevy Suburban had imperial nuts and bolts on the body but metric on 
> the 350 SBC engine.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  Date: 2020-01-01  11:14 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: tyee165 
> via Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century Not in the 50s and 60s 
> when McNamara put the kabosh in it.  Not in the 70s and 80s when his 
> replacements ran GM and put the Kaybosh on it.  Metric crept slowly inta GM 
> when they first started playing with toada.I don't have enough fingers 
> and toes to count how may times i heard "the US will convert to metric by 
> 19xx."  And none of it came to pass.  Gm and McNamara were the prime 
> adversaries.> tyee165 via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> January 1, 
> 2020 at 9:31 AM> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they? Apologies for silly 
> long > post.Have not figured out how to easily delete extraneous wording on > 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 '80s and early '90s American cars are the WORST when the engine is metric but 
the body is still SAE. Never know which tool to grab.
-Curt

On Wednesday, January 1, 2020, 5:48:04 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Not in the 50s and 60s when McNamara put the kabosh in it.  Not in the 
70s and 80s when his replacements ran GM and put the Kaybosh on it.  
Metric crept slowly inta GM when they first started playing with 
toada.    I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how may times i 
heard "the US will convert to metric by 19xx."  And none of it came to 
pass.  Gm and McNamara were the prime adversaries.


> tyee165 via Mercedes 
> January 1, 2020 at 9:31 AM
> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they? Apologies for silly long 
> post.Have not figured out how to easily delete extraneous wording on 
> this tablet.

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You could borrow a few of Hemingway's cats.


fmiser via Mercedes 
January 1, 2020 at 8:11 PM

archer75--- wrote:
A base 12 number system would have many advantages since it can
be equally divided into halves, thirds, and quarters.

https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-we-should-switch-to-a-base-12-counting-system-5977095
Gerry

Clearly a design shortcoming that we have only ten fingers




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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> archer75--- wrote:

> A base 12 number system would have many advantages since it can
> be equally divided into halves, thirds, and quarters.  
> 
> https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-we-should-switch-to-a-base-12-counting-system-5977095
> Gerry

Clearly a design shortcoming that we have only ten fingers

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

We still have 2x4s and 4x8 sheets of plywood but speed limits and distances etc 
have been metric since I was in high school. I converted things for a long 
while but have become accustomed over time. My sons 35 and 31 have been 
educated in metric and think metric.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-01-01  7:36 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: archer75--- 
via Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century pennies, shillings and 
pounds.   We dropped the base 12 system 244 years ago, and also started driving 
on the right side to show opposition to the base 12 system and the king.> 
archer75--- via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> January 1, 2020 at 
4:45 PM> A base 12 number system would have many advantages since it can be > 
equally divided into halves, thirds, and quarters.>> 
https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-we-should-switch-to-a-base-12-counting-system-5977095>
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I think that 1965 was the first year i was told was the deadline to be 
completely metric. In the post-sputnik era, NASA was pusing for 
metric.   THeir major contractors (Military-industrial complex 
Eisenhower warned about) did not see eye to eye with NASA about metric. 
  It slipped a year or two at  time at first; then three, then 5.   So 
here we are 55 years later.  I think almost all cars are metric, or 
nearly so, same with tractors and farm equip.   But still a lot of stuff 
is US fasteners.   DOn't look for feet inches and miles to go away 
anytime soon.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
January 1, 2020 at 5:24 PM
Metrics were a big deal in the early 70s, as I can recall having hard 
core teaching of the metric system in my formative years. I was a huge 
science nerd, and I can remember doing all the physics experiments and 
having to measure in kilos and Newton meters and the like.


-D





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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

My 1986 Chevy Suburban had imperial nuts and bolts on the body but metric on 
the 350 SBC engine.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2020-01-01  11:14 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: tyee165 via 
Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century Not in the 50s and 60s when 
McNamara put the kabosh in it.  Not in the 70s and 80s when his replacements 
ran GM and put the Kaybosh on it.  Metric crept slowly inta GM when they first 
started playing with toada.    I don't have enough fingers and toes to count 
how may times i heard "the US will convert to metric by 19xx."  And none of it 
came to pass.  Gm and McNamara were the prime adversaries.> tyee165 via 
Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> January 1, 2020 at 9:31 AM> But GM 
vehicles are metric aren't they? Apologies for silly long > post.Have not 
figured out how to easily delete extraneous wording on > this 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

pennies, shillings and pounds.   We dropped the base 12 system 244 years 
ago, and also started driving on the right side to show opposition to 
the base 12 system and the king.



archer75--- via Mercedes 
January 1, 2020 at 4:45 PM
A base 12 number system would have many advantages since it can be 
equally divided into halves, thirds, and quarters.


https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-we-should-switch-to-a-base-12-counting-system-5977095
Gerry
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Metrics were a big deal in the early 70s, as I can recall having hard core 
teaching of the metric system in my formative years. I was a huge science nerd, 
and I can remember doing all the physics experiments and having to measure in 
kilos and Newton meters and the like.

-D


> On Jan 1, 2020, at 12:14 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not in the 50s and 60s when McNamara put the kabosh in it.  Not in the 70s 
> and 80s when his replacements ran GM and put the Kaybosh on it.  Metric crept 
> slowly inta GM when they first started playing with toada.I don't have 
> enough fingers and toes to count how may times i heard "the US will convert 
> to metric by 19xx."  And none of it came to pass.  Gm and McNamara were the 
> prime adversaries.
> 
> 
>> tyee165 via Mercedes 
>> January 1, 2020 at 9:31 AM
>> But GM vehicles are metric aren't they? Apologies for silly long post.Have 
>> not figured out how to easily delete extraneous wording on this tablet.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not in the 50s and 60s when McNamara put the kabosh in it.  Not in the 
70s and 80s when his replacements ran GM and put the Kaybosh on it.  
Metric crept slowly inta GM when they first started playing with 
toada.    I don't have enough fingers and toes to count how may times i 
heard "the US will convert to metric by 19xx."  And none of it came to 
pass.  Gm and McNamara were the prime adversaries.




tyee165 via Mercedes 
January 1, 2020 at 9:31 AM
But GM vehicles are metric aren't they? Apologies for silly long 
post.Have not figured out how to easily delete extraneous wording on 
this tablet.


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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

A base 12 number system would have many advantages since it can be equally 
divided into halves, thirds, and quarters.  

https://io9.gizmodo.com/why-we-should-switch-to-a-base-12-counting-system-5977095
Gerry
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On Tue, 31 Dec 2019 22:44:25 -0800
Jim Cathey via Mercedes  wrote:

> >
> > One gets used to it.  Most of the world runs on metric.
> 
> 
> Temperature scales are entirely arbitrary, within limits.  (Kelvin and
> Rankine
> have numbers that are too large for general use.  Any scale where integral
> numbers less than 100 were generally sufficient would be satisfactory to
> humans,
> so both Centigrade and Fahrenheit are essentially equivalent.)
> 
> Nobody counts on their fingers when using temperatures, so a 'decimalized'
> temperature scale has no rational justification.
> 
> Changing _that_ particular scale was pretty much entirely political.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Centigrade degrees are WAY too HUGE, coarse, and useless.  F. degrees are
petite and cozy.

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 2:25 PM tyee165 via Mercedes 
wrote:

> We have been metric in Canada for about 50 years. One gets used to it.
> Most of the world runs on metric. No idea why the US holds out.Sent from my
> Galaxy Tab® A
>  Original message From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2019-12-30  8:11 PM  (GMT-06:00) To:
> Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: Buggered Benzmail <
> buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the
> century C is for Commie unitsF is for Freedom units--FTSent from iPhone> On
> Dec 30, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:> > Fake degrees.> > I was raised in places with celsius, so
> understand that.  I like knowing that water freezes at 0c and I will not
> live to see a 100* day.  To be much more exacting, I should learn Kelvin,
> but that just scares the crepes out of folks when you report temperatures.>
> > It also tends to irritate SWMBA when I tell her how cold it is, as she is
> not metric minded > > clay > > >> On Dec 30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Craig via
> Mercedes  wrote:>> >>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019
> 16:29:03 -0900 Clay Monroe via Mercedes>>> 
> wrote:>>> >>> I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for
> a bit>>> over five days, temps dropping to -17c over the past week.>> >>
> Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not Fahrenheit?>> >> >>
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> One gets used to it.  Most of the world runs on metric.


Temperature scales are entirely arbitrary, within limits.  (Kelvin and
Rankine
have numbers that are too large for general use.  Any scale where integral
numbers less than 100 were generally sufficient would be satisfactory to
humans,
so both Centigrade and Fahrenheit are essentially equivalent.)

Nobody counts on their fingers when using temperatures, so a 'decimalized'
temperature scale has no rational justification.

Changing _that_ particular scale was pretty much entirely political.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

But GM vehicles are metric aren't they? Apologies for silly long post.Have not 
figured out how to easily delete extraneous wording on this tablet.Sent from my 
Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-31  2:11 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: tyee165 via 
Mercedes  Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century The reason is "what's good 
for GM is good for the US."   Robert McNamara.> tyee165 via Mercedes 
<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> December 31, 2019 at 1:24 PM> We have been 
metric in Canada for about 50 years. One gets used to > it.  Most of the world 
runs on metric. No idea why the US holds > out.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A> 
 Original message From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > 
 Date: 2019-12-30 8:11 PM (GMT-06:00) To: > Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Buggered Benzmail > 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of > the 
century C is for Commie unitsF is for Freedom units--FTSent from > iPhone> On 
Dec 30, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes >  wrote:> > 
Fake degrees.> > I was raised in > places with celsius, so understand that.  I 
like knowing that water > freezes at 0c and I will not live to see a 100* day.  
To be much more > exacting, I should learn Kelvin, but that just scares the 
crepes out > of folks when you report temperatures.> > It also tends to 
irritate > SWMBA when I tell her how cold it is, as she is not metric minded > 
> > clay > > >> On Dec 30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes > 
 wrote:>> >>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:29:03 > -0900 Clay 
Monroe via Mercedes>>>  wrote:>>> > >>> I arrived near 
midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for a > bit>>> over five days, temps 
dropping to -17c over the past week.>> >> > Why do you quote the temperatures 
in Centigrade and not Fahrenheit?>> > >> >> Craig> > > 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

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> tyee165 wrote:

> Most of the world runs on metric. No idea why the US
> holds out.

Stupid, self-center, egotism - in my opinion.

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curley wrote:

> Centigrade is a more accurate name for it.  Cent=100     grade =
> root for gradient => scale. Centigrade means 100 gradients
> between freezing and boiling, or where liquid water changes to
> solid and where liquid water becomes gaseous.

the term centigrade is the name for a unit of angular measurement
(1/1 of a right angle)  So in 1948, the official measurement
of molecular activity was renamed to Celsius in honor of (one of
the) first folks to decide to use the state change of water as the
reference.

For what it's worth, Fahrenheit is also "cendigrade" - 100 steps
in the scale from the very coldest temperature that salt water can
be liquid (zero) to the normal core body temperature of humans
(off by 1.4 F)


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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The reason is "what's good for GM is good for the US."   Robert McNamara.


tyee165 via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
December 31, 2019 at 1:24 PM
We have been metric in Canada for about 50 years. One gets used to 
it.  Most of the world runs on metric. No idea why the US holds 
out.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-30 8:11 PM (GMT-06:00) To: 
Mercedes Discussion List  Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of 
the century C is for Commie unitsF is for Freedom units--FTSent from 
iPhone> On Dec 30, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes 
 wrote:> > Fake degrees.> > I was raised in 
places with celsius, so understand that.  I like knowing that water 
freezes at 0c and I will not live to see a 100* day.  To be much more 
exacting, I should learn Kelvin, but that just scares the crepes out 
of folks when you report temperatures.> > It also tends to irritate 
SWMBA when I tell her how cold it is, as she is not metric minded > > 
clay > > >> On Dec 30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:>> >>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:29:03 
-0900 Clay Monroe via Mercedes>>>  wrote:>>> 
>>> I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for a 
bit>>> over five days, temps dropping to -17c over the past week.>> >> 
Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not Fahrenheit?>> 
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I fear F is for fools. The world runs on metric.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: Craig via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-30  9:33 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Craig  
Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:11:18 
-0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:> C is for 
Commie units> F is for Freedom 
unitsHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!I'm glad my 
mouth was empty when I read 
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We have been metric in Canada for about 50 years. One gets used to it.  Most of 
the world runs on metric. No idea why the US holds out.Sent from my Galaxy Tab® 
A
 Original message From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 Date: 2019-12-30  8:11 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Buggered Benzmail 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century 
C is for Commie unitsF is for Freedom units--FTSent from iPhone> On Dec 30, 
2019, at 9:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:> > Fake 
degrees.> > I was raised in places with celsius, so understand that.  I like 
knowing that water freezes at 0c and I will not live to see a 100* day.  To be 
much more exacting, I should learn Kelvin, but that just scares the crepes out 
of folks when you report temperatures.> > It also tends to irritate SWMBA when 
I tell her how cold it is, as she is not metric minded > > clay > > >> On Dec 
30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:>> >>> 
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:29:03 -0900 Clay Monroe via Mercedes>>> 
 wrote:>>> >>> I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow 
had been falling for a bit>>> over five days, temps dropping to -17c over the 
past week.>> >> Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not 
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[OK Don via Mercedes]

You are recognizing his contribution to the rational measurement of
temperature, just like we recognize Diesel for the fuel we prefer, Farads
for capacitance, Ohms for resistance, Hertz for frequency instead of cps,
etc. ---

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:21 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Centigrade is a more accurate name for it.  Cent=100 grade = root
> for gradient => scale. Centigrade means 100 gradients between
> freezing and boiling, or where liquid water changes to solid and where
> liquid water becomes gaseous.
>
> Celcius makes no sense.  I owe nothing to that swede, whoever he was.
>
> > fmiser via Mercedes 
> > December 31, 2019 at 12:12 AM
> >>> Clay wrote:
> >
> >>> ... temps dropping to -17c over the past week.
> >> Craig wrote:
> >>
> >> Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not
> >> Fahrenheit?
> > Maybe because he is a sensible fellow and recognizes a good idea
> > when he sees it?
> >
> > And the currently correct name is "Celsius", named after the
> > Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius who developed a similar
> > temperature scale in the 1700s
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[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Centigrade is a more accurate name for it.  Cent=100     grade = root 
for gradient => scale. Centigrade means 100 gradients between 
freezing and boiling, or where liquid water changes to solid and where 
liquid water becomes gaseous.


Celcius makes no sense.  I owe nothing to that swede, whoever he was.


fmiser via Mercedes 
December 31, 2019 at 12:12 AM

Clay wrote:
  

... temps dropping to -17c over the past week.

Craig wrote:

Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not
Fahrenheit?

Maybe because he is a sensible fellow and recognizes a good idea
when he sees it?

And the currently correct name is "Celsius", named after the
Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius who developed a similar
temperature scale in the 1700s

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Agreed and I've been working on regrading the yard. I had some fill brought in 
a couple years ago that made a huge difference.
We've got a fieldstone foundation and it leaks mostly where they added the 
basement walkout. The joint there isn't sealed well. So the plan is to excavate 
that on the outside, repoint the masonry, in fact repoint the whole wall 
probably. Then (with Phillip's idea) add insulation/sealant. I'm thinking to 
probably put a sheet of plastic over that to keep the dirt from damaging the 
foam during backfill. And add more fill up to the house.
I've already got replacement gutters but getting somebody to put them up here 
is a total drag. We had a guy who bought materials and then flaked. At least 
the materials are in my garage...

-Curt

On Tuesday, December 31, 2019, 10:32:32 AM EST, Mitch Haley 
 wrote:  
 
 
The secret to a dry basement is to keep the foundation dry, not to seal it to 
the water builds up on the outside and pushes the wall in. 

The most important and easiest thing is to have good gutters, downspouts and 
especially outspouts. 
When I bought a bank owned home, the outspouts were missing. To make matters 
worse, there was only one downspout for the south half of the house, so half 
the rain that hits the roof goes down the SW corner. With the sump on the north 
side of the basement, when that water was dumped right next to the basement, it 
filtered in through the wall and made a big mess in the basement as it went 
around the furnace and water heater on its way to the sump. 
Buying a 10' length of downspout and sticking it on the ground level elbow at 
the SW corner got rid of 95% of the water in my basement. Now I only see water 
when wind drives rain hard up against the house. 

The rest of the cure for me would be to excavate a foot deep, 2-3' wide all 
around the house, and lay down plastic in the trench sloping away from the 
house. Then any surface water gets diverted away from the basement walls. 

Basement walls cave in for two main reasons: Water pressure and frost heaves. 
If you seal the basement wall so that water can't get in, but still have the 
water building up outside the wall, the wall can buckle. A 1970s 1400 sq ft 
ranch near me sold for $3k in 2012, partly because of septic issues but mainly 
because a 48' long wall was bowing in from water pressure. (the underlying 
cause of both issues was a high water table)
The way to get frost damage to your basement wall is to insulate the wall from 
the inside, allowing dirt touching the masonry to freeze because the masonry is 
cold. It's becoming quite common around here to finish basements, and the first 
thing they do is put insulation and drywall on the exterior walls. You can 
achieve most of what you want by insulating the outside of the wall where it's 
above ground, and letting the earth insulate the rest. 

Mitch.
  
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The secret to a dry basement is to keep the foundation dry, not to seal it to 
the water builds up on the outside and pushes the wall in. 

The most important and easiest thing is to have good gutters, downspouts and 
especially outspouts. 
When I bought a bank owned home, the outspouts were missing. To make matters 
worse, there was only one downspout for the south half of the house, so half 
the rain that hits the roof goes down the SW corner. With the sump on the north 
side of the basement, when that water was dumped right next to the basement, it 
filtered in through the wall and made a big mess in the basement as it went 
around the furnace and water heater on its way to the sump. 
Buying a 10' length of downspout and sticking it on the ground level elbow at 
the SW corner got rid of 95% of the water in my basement. Now I only see water 
when wind drives rain hard up against the house. 

The rest of the cure for me would be to excavate a foot deep, 2-3' wide all 
around the house, and lay down plastic in the trench sloping away from the 
house. Then any surface water gets diverted away from the basement walls. 

Basement walls cave in for two main reasons: Water pressure and frost heaves. 
If you seal the basement wall so that water can't get in, but still have the 
water building up outside the wall, the wall can buckle. A 1970s 1400 sq ft 
ranch near me sold for $3k in 2012, partly because of septic issues but mainly 
because a 48' long wall was bowing in from water pressure. (the underlying 
cause of both issues was a high water table)
The way to get frost damage to your basement wall is to insulate the wall from 
the inside, allowing dirt touching the masonry to freeze because the masonry is 
cold. It's becoming quite common around here to finish basements, and the first 
thing they do is put insulation and drywall on the exterior walls. You can 
achieve most of what you want by insulating the outside of the wall where it's 
above ground, and letting the earth insulate the rest. 

Mitch.

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[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Hey, that's a good idea. I've got a friend who works in commercial insulation. 
He offered to spray the underside of our camp. Doing the side of my basement 
would be a lot easier
Curt

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  On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:58 AM, fmiser via Mercedes 
wrote:   > Curt wrote:

>  Yup.The downside is we waste a bunch of heat to the outside.
> At some point I need to dig around the foundation to add some
> plastic to keep away water. I'm thinking at the same time to add
> a layer of foam insulation to keep some of the heat in. -Curt

A spray-on polyurethane foam should stop water as well as a
plastic sheet will.  And polyurethane is a most excellent
insulation!  If it's closed-cell, it's air-tight and water proof.
And termites really like it as a place to build a colony...


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It helped me hunting yesterday. I cut a fresh track in the snow and found 5 or 
more deer. They spotted me while I was looking for antlers and they took off. 
If I still had a doe permit I'd have gotten one.

Curt

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  On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 8:56 AM, Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes wrote:   
Curt's storm of the century has hit here. 
Yesterday morning it was 44°F, steadily dropping to 26 this AM. 
Quite a bit of rain and drizzle yesterday, turning to snow flurries in the 
afternoon as temps dropped to 35°.
So now I've got an inch of fresh snice on the ground as rain turned to wet snow 
turned to regular snow. 
It beats freezing rain I guess. 

Mitch.

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[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Curt's storm of the century has hit here. 
Yesterday morning it was 44°F, steadily dropping to 26 this AM. 
Quite a bit of rain and drizzle yesterday, turning to snow flurries in the 
afternoon as temps dropped to 35°.
So now I've got an inch of fresh snice on the ground as rain turned to wet snow 
turned to regular snow. 
It beats freezing rain I guess. 

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[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> I should learn Kelvin, but that just scares the crepes out of folks when
> you report temperatures.
>

Or Rankine.  (Fahrenheit units, starting from absolute zero.)  Bigger
numbers must be better, right?

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[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Clay wrote:
 
> > ... temps dropping to -17c over the past week.

> Craig wrote:
> 
> Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not
> Fahrenheit?

Maybe because he is a sensible fellow and recognizes a good idea
when he sees it?  

And the currently correct name is "Celsius", named after the
Swedish astronomer Anders Celsius who developed a similar
temperature scale in the 1700s

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Curt wrote:

>  Yup.The downside is we waste a bunch of heat to the outside.
> At some point I need to dig around the foundation to add some
> plastic to keep away water. I'm thinking at the same time to add
> a layer of foam insulation to keep some of the heat in. -Curt

A spray-on polyurethane foam should stop water as well as a
plastic sheet will.   And polyurethane is a most excellent
insulation!  If it's closed-cell, it's air-tight and water proof.
And termites really like it as a place to build a colony...


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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

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On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 21:11:18 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> C is for Commie units
> F is for Freedom units

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

I'm glad my mouth was empty when I read this!


Craig

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C is for Commie units
F is for Freedom units

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> On Dec 30, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Fake degrees.
> 
> I was raised in places with celsius, so understand that.  I like knowing that 
> water freezes at 0c and I will not live to see a 100* day.  To be much more 
> exacting, I should learn Kelvin, but that just scares the crepes out of folks 
> when you report temperatures.
> 
> It also tends to irritate SWMBA when I tell her how cold it is, as she is not 
> metric minded 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:29:03 -0900 Clay Monroe via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for a bit
>>> over five days, temps dropping to -17c over the past week.
>> 
>> Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not Fahrenheit?
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
> 
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[Clay via Mercedes]

Fake degrees.

I was raised in places with celsius, so understand that.  I like knowing that 
water freezes at 0c and I will not live to see a 100* day.  To be much more 
exacting, I should learn Kelvin, but that just scares the crepes out of folks 
when you report temperatures.

It also tends to irritate SWMBA when I tell her how cold it is, as she is not 
metric minded 

clay 


> On Dec 30, 2019, at 4:40 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:29:03 -0900 Clay Monroe via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for a bit
>> over five days, temps dropping to -17c over the past week.
> 
> Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not Fahrenheit?
> 
> 
> Craig


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On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 16:29:03 -0900 Clay Monroe via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for a bit
> over five days, temps dropping to -17c over the past week.

Why do you quote the temperatures in Centigrade and not Fahrenheit?


Craig

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$10/lb. worth every penny. 



--FT
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> On Dec 30, 2019, at 1:57 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What does Floyd pay for freshly caught jumbo shrimp straight of the boat?
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:35 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Power is still on, its rain/snowing, about 35F. Not bad really, it snowed
>> some before the rain so the windshield won't be too hard to scrape. Angie
>> is upset because I'm still planning to go hunting this afternoon. Tomorrow
>> is the last day...
>> I don't think I mentioned I missed a deer Saturday. I feel like I let my
>> rifle down, it was about a 30 yard shot that I should have made. I think I
>> was surprised the gun went off. On the plus side the gun went off which I
>> think means I've mostly gotten my gear figured out. Muzzle loader season is
>> more challenging. After I missed the deer (there were 3) ran down the hill
>> where Zach's gun misfired. It made a kind of farting noise, we found the
>> bullet about 10 feet from him. Probably his powder had gotten a little wet.
>> Can't tease him too much he got 2 other deer with that gun this year.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>>On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 10:22:55 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> 
>> Been raining fairly hard off and on, was 72F this afternoon still about
>> 66F now. Windows open, it’s nice to get a fresh breeze and listen to the
>> rain on Dec29. I think it’s going to be fairly warm the next few days too,
>> love it. I actually got kinda hot riding to the beach this morning... so
>> far we haven’t had “winter” which I’m fine with.
>> 
>> Noticed a bunch of shrimpers all lighted up tonight at the dock across the
>> creek on Wadmalaw, the catch has been pretty good the last week or two, big
>> ones. I’m going to the dock tomorrow get a few pounds. Saw a coupla boats
>> off the beach this morning so the catch will be fresh.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 29, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.
>>> 
 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
 Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine
>> tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.
 
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[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I arrived near midnight to ANC, the snow had been falling for a bit over five 
days, temps dropping to -17c over the past week.  This morning, temps were 
climbing to +2c, melting the compacted snow/ice tracks in the driveway.  The 
longer I stay here, I am sure I will be able defeat winter weather with ease.  
My tenure here has resulted in record high temps in town and drought.

clay

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 5:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.
> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
>> Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine 
>> tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What does Floyd pay for freshly caught jumbo shrimp straight of the boat?

On Mon, Dec 30, 2019 at 10:35 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Power is still on, its rain/snowing, about 35F. Not bad really, it snowed
> some before the rain so the windshield won't be too hard to scrape. Angie
> is upset because I'm still planning to go hunting this afternoon. Tomorrow
> is the last day...
> I don't think I mentioned I missed a deer Saturday. I feel like I let my
> rifle down, it was about a 30 yard shot that I should have made. I think I
> was surprised the gun went off. On the plus side the gun went off which I
> think means I've mostly gotten my gear figured out. Muzzle loader season is
> more challenging. After I missed the deer (there were 3) ran down the hill
> where Zach's gun misfired. It made a kind of farting noise, we found the
> bullet about 10 feet from him. Probably his powder had gotten a little wet.
> Can't tease him too much he got 2 other deer with that gun this year.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 10:22:55 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  Been raining fairly hard off and on, was 72F this afternoon still about
> 66F now. Windows open, it’s nice to get a fresh breeze and listen to the
> rain on Dec29. I think it’s going to be fairly warm the next few days too,
> love it. I actually got kinda hot riding to the beach this morning... so
> far we haven’t had “winter” which I’m fine with.
>
> Noticed a bunch of shrimpers all lighted up tonight at the dock across the
> creek on Wadmalaw, the catch has been pretty good the last week or two, big
> ones. I’m going to the dock tomorrow get a few pounds. Saw a coupla boats
> off the beach this morning so the catch will be fresh.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Dec 29, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.
> >
> >> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >> December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
> >> Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine
> tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Power is still on, its rain/snowing, about 35F. Not bad really, it snowed some 
before the rain so the windshield won't be too hard to scrape. Angie is upset 
because I'm still planning to go hunting this afternoon. Tomorrow is the last 
day...
I don't think I mentioned I missed a deer Saturday. I feel like I let my rifle 
down, it was about a 30 yard shot that I should have made. I think I was 
surprised the gun went off. On the plus side the gun went off which I think 
means I've mostly gotten my gear figured out. Muzzle loader season is more 
challenging. After I missed the deer (there were 3) ran down the hill where 
Zach's gun misfired. It made a kind of farting noise, we found the bullet about 
10 feet from him. Probably his powder had gotten a little wet. Can't tease him 
too much he got 2 other deer with that gun this year.

-Curt

On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 10:22:55 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via 
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 Been raining fairly hard off and on, was 72F this afternoon still about  66F 
now. Windows open, it’s nice to get a fresh breeze and listen to the rain on 
Dec29. I think it’s going to be fairly warm the next few days too, love it. I 
actually got kinda hot riding to the beach this morning... so far we haven’t 
had “winter” which I’m fine with. 

Noticed a bunch of shrimpers all lighted up tonight at the dock across the 
creek on Wadmalaw, the catch has been pretty good the last week or two, big 
ones. I’m going to the dock tomorrow get a few pounds. Saw a coupla boats off 
the beach this morning so the catch will be fresh. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.
> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
>> Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine 
>> tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We’ve had light rain and cloudy skies now for at least a week. Unusual, but not 
unheard of for this time of year. The part that stinks is that the last couple 
of days it’s been in the high 70s, so it’s not terribly pleasant if you want to 
work outside. Cold front coming through on New Year’s Eve going to drop the 
highs into the 60s, but it will be sunny and dry, with low humidity. That’s 
typical Florida “winter” weather. Thursday things kick back up into the high 
70s and chances for rain increase (again).

-D no sunshine to shovel

 
> On Dec 29, 2019, at 10:22 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Been raining fairly hard off and on, was 72F this afternoon still about  66F 
> now. Windows open, it’s nice to get a fresh breeze and listen to the rain on 
> Dec29. I think it’s going to be fairly warm the next few days too, love it. I 
> actually got kinda hot riding to the beach this morning... so far we haven’t 
> had “winter” which I’m fine with. 
> 
> Noticed a bunch of shrimpers all lighted up tonight at the dock across the 
> creek on Wadmalaw, the catch has been pretty good the last week or two, big 
> ones. I’m going to the dock tomorrow get a few pounds. Saw a coupla boats off 
> the beach this morning so the catch will be fresh. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 29, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.
>> 
>>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
>>> Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine 
>>> tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Been raining fairly hard off and on, was 72F this afternoon still about  66F 
now. Windows open, it’s nice to get a fresh breeze and listen to the rain on 
Dec29. I think it’s going to be fairly warm the next few days too, love it. I 
actually got kinda hot riding to the beach this morning... so far we haven’t 
had “winter” which I’m fine with. 

Noticed a bunch of shrimpers all lighted up tonight at the dock across the 
creek on Wadmalaw, the catch has been pretty good the last week or two, big 
ones. I’m going to the dock tomorrow get a few pounds. Saw a coupla boats off 
the beach this morning so the catch will be fresh. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.
> 
>> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
>> Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine 
>> tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

In the DMV we are way warmer than average and the trend will continue into
the new year.

On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 9:32 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.
>
> > Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> > December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
> > Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine
> > tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Been busy shoveling rain @ about 60F.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
December 29, 2019 at 6:39 PM
Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine 
tomorrow to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea.


Sent from my iPhone




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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Stay safe Curt.  90 moles,south of you we are,supposed to just get rain.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Dec 29, 2019, 7:34 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We're projected to get .1 to .5 inches of ice. The weather guessers are
> losing their minds. "Tree limbs down, power outages."
> I've been working on our little generator anyway, cleaned the carb which
> got it starting better. Today I got it to output power, I'd left the
> neutral cable unplugged from the outlet. Mostly if the power is out I'll
> use it to recharge the old car battery we use to run the inverter that
> gives us lights and computer.
> Kerosene was on sale at the hardware store so I picked up a few gallons.
> I've got a few Aladdin lamps (and one nice old B) and of course Coleman
> stuff. In a pinch it could also go in the car or the house boiler.
> We hauled about a quarter of a cord of wood into the "wood room" which is
> really the basement walk-out. We'd have done that anyway, thats about 2
> weeks of wood for us.
> Finally we got a fire going in the stove, its easier to keep the house
> warm with the stove than it is to start from a cold stove.
> So I guess we're pretty well ready, anybody else make storm preparations?
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Yup.The downside is we waste a bunch of heat to the outside.
At some point I need to dig around the foundation to add some plastic to keep 
away water. I'm thinking at the same time to add a layer of foam insulation to 
keep some of the heat in.
-Curt

On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 8:36:47 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 01:24:20 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

>  We've got a one story house with the wood stove in the basement. The
> stove can heat the whole house but the basement walls absorb a
> considerable amount of heat when they're cold. So if the stove hasn't
> been lit for a couple days, its been warm so we haven't had it going,
> it'll take a couple hours before the basement warms enough to let the
> house really warm up. 
> 
> By lighting the fire before the power goes out we start with a warm
> basement. Often if its not really cold I'll only light the stove every
> other day, the basement stays pretty warm for about a day after having
> a fire.

Ah, now I understand. Sort of like a Russian fireplace, built with lots
of brick, but an integral feature of your house.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 01:24:20 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

>  We've got a one story house with the wood stove in the basement. The
> stove can heat the whole house but the basement walls absorb a
> considerable amount of heat when they're cold. So if the stove hasn't
> been lit for a couple days, its been warm so we haven't had it going,
> it'll take a couple hours before the basement warms enough to let the
> house really warm up. 
> 
> By lighting the fire before the power goes out we start with a warm
> basement. Often if its not really cold I'll only light the stove every
> other day, the basement stays pretty warm for about a day after having
> a fire.

Ah, now I understand. Sort of like a Russian fireplace, built with lots
of brick, but an integral feature of your house.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 We've got a one story house with the wood stove in the basement. The stove can 
heat the whole house but the basement walls absorb a considerable amount of 
heat when they're cold. So if the stove hasn't been lit for a couple days, its 
been warm so we haven't had it going, it'll take a couple hours before the 
basement warms enough to let the house really warm up. 

By lighting the fire before the power goes out we start with a warm basement. 
Often if its not really cold I'll only light the stove every other day, the 
basement stays pretty warm for about a day after having a fire.

-Curt

On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 8:01:38 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:33:58 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Finally we got a fire going in the stove, its easier to keep the house
> warm with the stove than it is to start from a cold stove.

I'm not sure I understand this sentence.


> So I guess we're pretty well ready,

Great!


> anybody else make storm preparations?

Nope. We are at 25°F with an expected low of 7°F and wind chill values as
low as -4°F, but, as is typical in New Mexico, no precipitation.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Boston isn't supposed to get the ice we are, Maine is supposed to get mostly 
snow.
-Curt

On Sunday, December 29, 2019, 7:40:01 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine tomorrow 
to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We're projected to get .1 to .5 inches of ice. The weather guessers are 
> losing their minds. "Tree limbs down, power outages."
> I've been working on our little generator anyway, cleaned the carb which got 
> it starting better. Today I got it to output power, I'd left the neutral 
> cable unplugged from the outlet. Mostly if the power is out I'll use it to 
> recharge the old car battery we use to run the inverter that gives us lights 
> and computer.
> Kerosene was on sale at the hardware store so I picked up a few gallons. I've 
> got a few Aladdin lamps (and one nice old B) and of course Coleman stuff. 
> In a pinch it could also go in the car or the house boiler.
> We hauled about a quarter of a cord of wood into the "wood room" which is 
> really the basement walk-out. We'd have done that anyway, thats about 2 weeks 
> of wood for us.
> Finally we got a fire going in the stove, its easier to keep the house warm 
> with the stove than it is to start from a cold stove.
> So I guess we're pretty well ready, anybody else make storm preparations?
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

No ice here. Rained all night. Was only 49°F when I got up this morning. 
Don't need an ice storm. I just dumped all my jugged premium in the 190E this 
afternoon and only have 5 gallons of regular on hand.

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 30 Dec 2019 00:33:58 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Finally we got a fire going in the stove, its easier to keep the house
> warm with the stove than it is to start from a cold stove.

I'm not sure I understand this sentence.


> So I guess we're pretty well ready,

Great!


> anybody else make storm preparations?

Nope. We are at 25°F with an expected low of 7°F and wind chill values as
low as -4°F, but, as is typical in New Mexico, no precipitation.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] This weeks storm of the century

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Uhhh, the wife is currently in Boston and will be driving up to Maine tomorrow 
to visit family. Sounds like this might be a bad idea. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 29, 2019, at 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We're projected to get .1 to .5 inches of ice. The weather guessers are 
> losing their minds. "Tree limbs down, power outages."
> I've been working on our little generator anyway, cleaned the carb which got 
> it starting better. Today I got it to output power, I'd left the neutral 
> cable unplugged from the outlet. Mostly if the power is out I'll use it to 
> recharge the old car battery we use to run the inverter that gives us lights 
> and computer.
> Kerosene was on sale at the hardware store so I picked up a few gallons. I've 
> got a few Aladdin lamps (and one nice old B) and of course Coleman stuff. 
> In a pinch it could also go in the car or the house boiler.
> We hauled about a quarter of a cord of wood into the "wood room" which is 
> really the basement walk-out. We'd have done that anyway, thats about 2 weeks 
> of wood for us.
> Finally we got a fire going in the stove, its easier to keep the house warm 
> with the stove than it is to start from a cold stove.
> So I guess we're pretty well ready, anybody else make storm preparations?
> -Curt
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