Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Denouement should have been italicized - sorrry. This was my attempt at keeping up with the sophisticated chatter that characterizes this group. ;) Anyway, I did mount the new filter on the new bolt, and all went well, except that the car would run and die even though I primed the little pump. So I disconnected the filter to make sure it was full of fuel [it was] and re-primed until my arm just about fell off. Then I started the engine again and it purred like a kitten without dying. I love these cars. In my defense, I inherited an abuse problem from the PO, who was probably a butcher. The bolt that went south had been giving me fits since day 1 of owning this car, 10 years ago. The very first time I attempted to change the main fuel filter I neeeded a wrench to keep the filter from turning along with the bolt. And after installing the new filter, fuel leaked from the filter-canister interface. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:32 PM, Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com wrote: andrew wrote: I will report tomorrow on the denouement. We don't know how to use words like that. denouement? - c'mon. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090408/1a774b92/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
What is the size in mm of the bolt head? (Same as the wrench size) 123s are 19mm OM603 uses 14 mm I think. That should tell you if you need the old or new type filter. At 10:56 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote: That is a possibility, except why would they make the threads be THAT similar, to allow you to screw on the filter just enough to think the thread is buggered? I will report tomorrow on the denouement. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: What's the chance that Andrew has an early (123) type filter and since his car is an 85, it has the later OM603 type fuel filter? (and bolt!) I believe the later bolt would go in the filter and act as though it is stripped or cross threaded. Andrew, do you still have the old filter to carefully compare thread size and pitch? The bolt hole in the older type 123 filter is larger than the OM603 type filter. If my memory serves, it also has a larger thread pitch, and the newer filter has a smaller pitch (finer thread) At 07:23 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote: OK, I dont have this bolt, seems to be a later engine deal, but can sell you a complete assembly with the earlier style bolt. If you are interested just send a email offlist to okieb...@striplin.net andrew strasfogel wrote: Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/07eda0db/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:20 -0500, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: What is the size in mm of the bolt head? (Same as the wrench size) 123s are 19mm OM603 uses 14 mm I think. That should tell you if you need the old or new type filter. On my '83 the hex head at the top of the bolt is 24mm Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
that must be the 84-85 123 filter Kaleb refers to At 08:26 AM 4/7/2009, you wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:20 -0500, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: What is the size in mm of the bolt head? (Same as the wrench size) 123s are 19mm OM603 uses 14 mm I think. That should tell you if you need the old or new type filter. On my '83 the hex head at the top of the bolt is 24mm Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
24 mm is the size on the 85CD but my 83 wagon has a 19mm bolt. They are different housing and the bolts are therefore not interchangeable. Anyway, I will be picking up the new bolt today from the dealership. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: that must be the 84-85 123 filter Kaleb refers to At 08:26 AM 4/7/2009, you wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:20 -0500, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: What is the size in mm of the bolt head? (Same as the wrench size) 123s are 19mm OM603 uses 14 mm I think. That should tell you if you need the old or new type filter. On my '83 the hex head at the top of the bolt is 24mm Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090407/aebca235/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
OK, the new bolt fits, but the metal threads are so soft that merely testing them on the filter caused the threads to distort a little. Gotta be very careful! Cost was about $30.00. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: 24 mm is the size on the 85CD but my 83 wagon has a 19mm bolt. They are different housing and the bolts are therefore not interchangeable. Anyway, I will be picking up the new bolt today from the dealership. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: that must be the 84-85 123 filter Kaleb refers to At 08:26 AM 4/7/2009, you wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:20 -0500, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: What is the size in mm of the bolt head? (Same as the wrench size) 123s are 19mm OM603 uses 14 mm I think. That should tell you if you need the old or new type filter. On my '83 the hex head at the top of the bolt is 24mm Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090407/773d595b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
On Tue, 7 Apr 2009 22:52:18 -0400 andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: OK, the new bolt fits, but the metal threads are so soft that merely testing them on the filter caused the threads to distort a little. Gotta be very careful! Something is drastically wrong. Cost was about $30.00. Compounding the problem. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Suggestion -- get a neighborhood kid who isn't a buff squash player like you to spin on the oil filter for you. Maybe a band kid like me. When I was at CGAS Cape Cod, we had a mechanic who had played football (as a lineman) for one of the big southern universities. He kept putting on the prop oil plugs finger tight and stripping threads. The E-8 told him he could check the oil but had to have one of us put the plug back in. Never stripped out another one the whole time I was stationed there. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:52 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: OK, the new bolt fits, but the metal threads are so soft that merely testing them on the filter caused the threads to distort a little. Gotta be very careful! Cost was about $30.00. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote: 24 mm is the size on the 85CD but my 83 wagon has a 19mm bolt. They are different housing and the bolts are therefore not interchangeable. Anyway, I will be picking up the new bolt today from the dealership. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: that must be the 84-85 123 filter Kaleb refers to At 08:26 AM 4/7/2009, you wrote: On Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:20 -0500, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.com wrote: What is the size in mm of the bolt head? (Same as the wrench size) 123s are 19mm OM603 uses 14 mm I think. That should tell you if you need the old or new type filter. On my '83 the hex head at the top of the bolt is 24mm Allan -- 1983 300D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090407/773d595b/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090407/6b25e898/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
andrew wrote: I will report tomorrow on the denouement. We don't know how to use words like that. denouement? - c'mon. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
This is turning into a real bummer. Mercedes only sells the entire filter housing, for $250 or $300 approximately. Kaleb - do you have a used housing or bolt from a 1985 turbo? The bolt I am looking for is larger than on my 83 W123, which is 19mm IIRC. The bolt I need is much larger, around 24mm if I had to guess (1985 300CD).I don't know whether a W126 would work or not. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You would probably have to call him if its not on his website if you are needing a new one. andrew strasfogel wrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/46d66944/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
I suspect the stealership parts guy didn't want to sell you a bolt when he thought he could sell you a filter assembly. Call Rusty! At 10:29 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote: This is turning into a real bummer. Mercedes only sells the entire filter housing, for $250 or $300 approximately. Kaleb - do you have a used housing or bolt from a 1985 turbo? The bolt I am looking for is larger than on my 83 W123, which is 19mm IIRC. The bolt I need is much larger, around 24mm if I had to guess (1985 300CD).I don't know whether a W126 would work or not. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You would probably have to call him if its not on his website if you are needing a new one. andrew strasfogel wrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/46d66944/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Already did. Rusty (Tom) told me in no uncertain terms that only the housing was available. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: I suspect the stealership parts guy didn't want to sell you a bolt when he thought he could sell you a filter assembly. Call Rusty! At 10:29 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote: This is turning into a real bummer. Mercedes only sells the entire filter housing, for $250 or $300 approximately. Kaleb - do you have a used housing or bolt from a 1985 turbo? The bolt I am looking for is larger than on my 83 W123, which is 19mm IIRC. The bolt I need is much larger, around 24mm if I had to guess (1985 300CD).I don't know whether a W126 would work or not. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You would probably have to call him if its not on his website if you are needing a new one. andrew strasfogel wrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/46d66944/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/60e87101/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Why not just get a used one from kaleb? Mike -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah! Already did. Rusty (Tom) told me in no uncertain terms that only the housing was available. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: I suspect the stealership parts guy didn't want to sell you a bolt when he thought he could sell you a filter assembly. Call Rusty! At 10:29 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote: This is turning into a real bummer. Mercedes only sells the entire filter housing, for $250 or $300 approximately. Kaleb - do you have a used housing or bolt from a 1985 turbo? The bolt I am looking for is larger than on my 83 W123, which is 19mm IIRC. The bolt I need is much larger, around 24mm if I had to guess (1985 300CD).I don't know whether a W126 would work or not. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You would probably have to call him if its not on his website if you are needing a new one. andrew strasfogel wrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/46d 66944/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/60 e87101/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
I'm trying! On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Michael E. Esh michael...@charter.netwrote: Why not just get a used one from kaleb? Mike -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 12:01 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah! Already did. Rusty (Tom) told me in no uncertain terms that only the housing was available. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: I suspect the stealership parts guy didn't want to sell you a bolt when he thought he could sell you a filter assembly. Call Rusty! At 10:29 AM 4/6/2009, you wrote: This is turning into a real bummer. Mercedes only sells the entire filter housing, for $250 or $300 approximately. Kaleb - do you have a used housing or bolt from a 1985 turbo? The bolt I am looking for is larger than on my 83 W123, which is 19mm IIRC. The bolt I need is much larger, around 24mm if I had to guess (1985 300CD).I don't know whether a W126 would work or not. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.net wrote: You would probably have to call him if its not on his website if you are needing a new one. andrew strasfogel wrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/46d 66944/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/60 e87101/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/d80964e5/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
andrew strasfogel wrote: Already did. Rusty (Tom) told me in no uncertain terms that only the housing was available. Is this the same Tom who once told me the oil filter stem o-rings were only available in ten packs? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
As I recall, this bolt screws into threads in the filter. Maybe you have a bad filter? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 21:31 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah! I ran diesel purge through the 85 300CD, but when I attempted to change the main fuel filter I couldn't tighten the filter more than halfway up the threaded bolt in the filter housing. I assume that the threads on the bolt are butchered, although visually they looked normal. I tried a couple filters but the same problem - wouldn't tighten past a certain point. :(( So what is this bolt called and is it dealer only? Does anyone have the part number? Andrew 1985 300CD 1983 300TD -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090405/00 068579/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: As I recall, this bolt screws into threads in the filter. Maybe you have a bad filter? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 21:31 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah! I ran diesel purge through the 85 300CD, but when I attempted to change the main fuel filter I couldn't tighten the filter more than halfway up the threaded bolt in the filter housing. I assume that the threads on the bolt are butchered, although visually they looked normal. I tried a couple filters but the same problem - wouldn't tighten past a certain point. :(( So what is this bolt called and is it dealer only? Does anyone have the part number? Andrew 1985 300CD 1983 300TD -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090405/00 068579/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/75f24d10/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded =, buggah!
Two wrong filters? Try taking the bolt along with you to another vendors store and see. Manfred Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:03:39 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah! Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
You sure? Are they the same lot number? Humour (or lack thereof) aside, could you run a thread-chaser tool onto it and fix the threads? On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:03 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/91895161/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Yea, I should have, but let me check to see. Im really not sure if I have the larger one or not. Wonder if its the same as a 603 bolt. i will look up the part numbers. andrew strasfogel wrote: This is turning into a real bummer. Mercedes only sells the entire filter housing, for $250 or $300 approximately. Kaleb - do you have a used housing or bolt from a 1985 turbo? The bolt I am looking for is larger than on my 83 W123, which is 19mm IIRC. The bolt I need is much larger, around 24mm if I had to guess (1985 300CD).I don't know whether a W126 would work or not. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You would probably have to call him if its not on his website if you are needing a new one. andrew strasfogel wrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/46d66944/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
PS, I see another part number, you sure rusty cant just get that bolt for you? Its 69159900863 andrew strasfogel wrote: This is turning into a real bummer. Mercedes only sells the entire filter housing, for $250 or $300 approximately. Kaleb - do you have a used housing or bolt from a 1985 turbo? The bolt I am looking for is larger than on my 83 W123, which is 19mm IIRC. The bolt I need is much larger, around 24mm if I had to guess (1985 300CD).I don't know whether a W126 would work or not. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin ka...@striplin.netwrote: You would probably have to call him if its not on his website if you are needing a new one. andrew strasfogel wrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/46d66944/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
his bolt is probably stripped andrew strasfogel wrote: Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 3:47 PM, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote: As I recall, this bolt screws into threads in the filter. Maybe you have a bad filter? -Original Message- From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of andrew strasfogel Sent: Sunday, April 05, 2009 21:31 To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah! I ran diesel purge through the 85 300CD, but when I attempted to change the main fuel filter I couldn't tighten the filter more than halfway up the threaded bolt in the filter housing. I assume that the threads on the bolt are butchered, although visually they looked normal. I tried a couple filters but the same problem - wouldn't tighten past a certain point. :(( So what is this bolt called and is it dealer only? Does anyone have the part number? Andrew 1985 300CD 1983 300TD -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090405/00 068579/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/75f24d10/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 04/06/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
probably. Mitch Haley wrote: andrew strasfogel wrote: Already did. Rusty (Tom) told me in no uncertain terms that only the housing was available. Is this the same Tom who once told me the oil filter stem o-rings were only available in ten packs? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.43/2043 - Release Date: 04/06/09 06:22:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
This would be a free part at any reasonable junkyard in person, and maybe $5 shipped. There are junkyards in Oregon that probably have 20 cars with this bolt, and would certainly ship if you called them. Tyler Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: PS, I see another part number, you sure rusty cant just get that bolt for you? Its 69159900863 andrew strasfogel wrote: This is turning into a real bummer. Mercedes only sells the entire filter housing, for $250 or $300 approximately. Kaleb - do you have a used housing or bolt from a 1985 turbo? The bolt I am looking for is larger than on my 83 W123, which is 19mm IIRC. The bolt I need is much larger, around 24mm if I had to guess (1985 300CD).I don't know whether a W126 would work or not. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
OK, I dont have this bolt, seems to be a later engine deal, but can sell you a complete assembly with the earlier style bolt. If you are interested just send a email offlist to okieb...@striplin.net andrew strasfogel wrote: Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Or that he couldn't get MB axle grease? Try the online chat with Rusty, occasionally Tom is incorrectly informed... I do like that I have the o-rings in reserve though. -Curt Date: Mon, 06 Apr 2009 15:01:15 -0400 From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah! To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: 49da517b.2040...@voyager.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed andrew strasfogel wrote: Already did. Rusty (Tom) told me in no uncertain terms that only the housing was available. Is this the same Tom who once told me the oil filter stem o-rings were only available in ten packs? Mitch. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/90cb40f1/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
On Mon, 6 Apr 2009 18:48:02 -0500 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: You sure? Are they the same lot number? Humour (or lack thereof) aside, could you run a thread-chaser tool onto it and fix the threads? I'd be a little leery of putting chips into something that's supposed to filter them out ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
What's the chance that Andrew has an early (123) type filter and since his car is an 85, it has the later OM603 type fuel filter? (and bolt!) I believe the later bolt would go in the filter and act as though it is stripped or cross threaded. Andrew, do you still have the old filter to carefully compare thread size and pitch? The bolt hole in the older type 123 filter is larger than the OM603 type filter. If my memory serves, it also has a larger thread pitch, and the newer filter has a smaller pitch (finer thread) At 07:23 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote: OK, I dont have this bolt, seems to be a later engine deal, but can sell you a complete assembly with the earlier style bolt. If you are interested just send a email offlist to okieb...@striplin.net andrew strasfogel wrote: Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded =, buggah!
The local dealer can get just the bolt. I'll bring along the filter to test it when I pick up the part tomorrow. On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 8:39 AM, MG trainpain2...@yahoo.com wrote: Two wrong filters? Try taking the bolt along with you to another vendors store and see. Manfred Date: Mon, 6 Apr 2009 16:03:39 -0400 From: andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah! Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/ca39d3dc/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
That is a possibility, except why would they make the threads be THAT similar, to allow you to screw on the filter just enough to think the thread is buggered? I will report tomorrow on the denouement. On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:05 PM, Loren Faeth lfa...@leadingchange.comwrote: What's the chance that Andrew has an early (123) type filter and since his car is an 85, it has the later OM603 type fuel filter? (and bolt!) I believe the later bolt would go in the filter and act as though it is stripped or cross threaded. Andrew, do you still have the old filter to carefully compare thread size and pitch? The bolt hole in the older type 123 filter is larger than the OM603 type filter. If my memory serves, it also has a larger thread pitch, and the newer filter has a smaller pitch (finer thread) At 07:23 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote: OK, I dont have this bolt, seems to be a later engine deal, but can sell you a complete assembly with the earlier style bolt. If you are interested just send a email offlist to okieb...@striplin.net andrew strasfogel wrote: Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090406/07eda0db/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
There is the early style for 617, then the last style which he has. Its not the same as the 603 so it probably just a 84-85 thing. Loren Faeth wrote: What's the chance that Andrew has an early (123) type filter and since his car is an 85, it has the later OM603 type fuel filter? (and bolt!) I believe the later bolt would go in the filter and act as though it is stripped or cross threaded. Andrew, do you still have the old filter to carefully compare thread size and pitch? The bolt hole in the older type 123 filter is larger than the OM603 type filter. If my memory serves, it also has a larger thread pitch, and the newer filter has a smaller pitch (finer thread) At 07:23 PM 4/6/2009, you wrote: OK, I dont have this bolt, seems to be a later engine deal, but can sell you a complete assembly with the earlier style bolt. If you are interested just send a email offlist to okieb...@striplin.net andrew strasfogel wrote: Already thought of this. I don't have TWO bad filters... -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
http://tinyurl.com/cdajn4 On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:31 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: I ran diesel purge through the 85 300CD, but when I attempted to change the main fuel filter I couldn't tighten the filter more than halfway up the threaded bolt in the filter housing. I assume that the threads on the bolt are butchered, although visually they looked normal. I tried a couple filters but the same problem - wouldn't tighten past a certain point. :(( So what is this bolt called and is it dealer only? Does anyone have the part number? Andrew 1985 300CD 1983 300TD -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090405/00068579/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090405/8b9ed370/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:37:13 -0500 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cdajn4 Cute. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:31 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: So what is this bolt called and is it dealer only? Does anyone have the part number? Well, since there is a Hollow Bolt Seal Ring at http://www.buymbparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1982-MERCEDES---40dyearid=1982%40%401982makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES%40%40Xmodelid=6142%3AMBC%7C1489%3AED%7C1129%40%40240Dmode=SSyearid=1982%40%401982makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES%40%40Xmodelid=6142%3AMBC%7C1489%3AED%7C1129%40%40240D I would expect it's probably called a hollow bolt. Call Rusty, (800) 741-5252. I certainly expect that he would be able to get it to you quickly. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote: On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:37:13 -0500 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cdajn4 Cute. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:31 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: So what is this bolt called and is it dealer only? Does anyone have the part number? Well, since there is a Hollow Bolt Seal Ring at http://www.buymbparts.com/ShopByVehicle.epc?q=1982-MERCEDES---40dyearid=1982%40%401982makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES%40%40Xmodelid=6142%3AMBC%7C1489%3AED%7C1129%40%40240Dmode=SSyearid=1982%40%401982makeid=63%40%40MERCEDES%40%40Xmodelid=6142%3AMBC%7C1489%3AED%7C1129%40%40240D I would expect it's probably called a hollow bolt. Call Rusty, (800) 741-5252. I certainly expect that he would be able to get it to you quickly. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090405/60097de0/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Just call Rusty in the monring --- On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:09 PM, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.comwrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Craig McCluskey diese...@cnsp.com wrote: On Sun, 5 Apr 2009 20:37:13 -0500 Wonko the Sane don.b...@gmail.com wrote: http://tinyurl.com/cdajn4 Cute. -- The important thing in aeroplanes is that they shall be speedy Baron Manfred von Richthofen OK Don W124 Diesels KD5NRO -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090405/4349d5be/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
Anything that is a dealer item Rusty can get new and I can get used, well, almost anything used that is. The part number is 6159900563 or 6159900863 depending on engine # andrew strasfogel wrote: I ran diesel purge through the 85 300CD, but when I attempted to change the main fuel filter I couldn't tighten the filter more than halfway up the threaded bolt in the filter housing. I assume that the threads on the bolt are butchered, although visually they looked normal. I tried a couple filters but the same problem - wouldn't tighten past a certain point. :(( So what is this bolt called and is it dealer only? Does anyone have the part number? Andrew 1985 300CD 1983 300TD -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20090405/00068579/attachment.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.42/2042 - Release Date: 04/05/09 10:54:00 -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W123 main fuel filter bolt is cross-threaded = buggah!
You would probably have to call him if its not on his website if you are needing a new one. andrew strasfogel wrote: Nope - nothing for hollow bolt. -- Kaleb C. Striplin/Claremore, OK 95 E300, 92 300SD, 92 300E 4Matic, 91 300D, 91 300E, 89 560SEL, 89 300E, 87 300SDL x2, 85 380SE 5.0 Euro, 85 190D, 84 190D x2, 84 300D euro manny, 81 240D, 80 240D, 76 240D, 76 300D, http://www.okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
