Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I can deal with the OEM cup holders, they're just not located in a spot that is 
easy to get to, that's all.

In the 140 you have to reach over with your left hand, as they are too far back 
to reach with your right hand.

I have seen the fold up ones that screw to your door, but that's not going to 
happen on my car. I'm not screwing anything to the door or any place else for 
that matter.

Dan

On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 MB Martha sez:
 
 I will say that the cup holders in the 140 leave a lot to be desired. I 
 guess I shouldn't complain - at least it has cup holders
 
 All my MBs, 123, 124 or 126 have special custom Mercedes Benz auxiliary cup 
 holders.  Maybe you could get one for your 140.
 
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Re: [MBZ] my recent 300td travels

2013-04-01 Thread Mitch Haley

Rick Hawkins Java wrote:

I picked up the machine Thursday afternoon and also ended up getting a 
400 lb paper cutter, 5 gals of blanket wash and 5 gals of 90 wt 
transmission dope, 7 type cases full of type and a couple of baskets of 
letterpress furniture (wood blocks), a 75 lb electric motor, etc. etc, 
so i had a pretty good load. Don't forget i was already hauling probably 
40 gals of grease so i could make the return trip.


Assuming electric brakes on the trailer, attaboy!

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedes Benz 300SD CUPHOLDERS

2013-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas
I made some out of cherry wood and engraved them with my CNC machine 
with Benz logos.  They fit in the little tray behind the shifter.


--R

On 4/1/13 7:23 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

I can deal with the OEM cup holders, they're just not located in a spot that is 
easy to get to, that's all.

In the 140 you have to reach over with your left hand, as they are too far back 
to reach with your right hand.

I have seen the fold up ones that screw to your door, but that's not going to 
happen on my car. I'm not screwing anything to the door or any place else for 
that matter.

Dan

On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


MB Martha sez:

I will say that the cup holders in the 140 leave a lot to be desired. I guess I 
shouldn't complain - at least it has cup holders

All my MBs, 123, 124 or 126 have special custom Mercedes Benz auxiliary cup 
holders.  Maybe you could get one for your 140.

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[MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now 
recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma

2013-04-01 Thread Rick Knoble
Do they have the Tri-Star on them?

Rick
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 Ever want to look like Kent Bergsma with a spiffy navy blue service coat 
 (labcoat) to work on your Mercedes?
 
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html

 That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.


Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
getting hot in the sun?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
My 140 is black on black.

And yes, they show the dirt like you wouldn't believe.

I park in a parking structure that is a block away from a flour mill. When I 
come out at the end of the day there is always a fine coating of flour on my 
car.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html
 
 That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.
 
 
 Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
 getting hot in the sun?
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma

2013-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
You have to sew your own MB patch on them for this price.  If you 
offer enough money, I can sew one on for ya.



Do they have the Tri-Star on them?

Rick
Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 31, 2013, at 6:15 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Ever want to look like Kent Bergsma with a spiffy navy blue 
service coat (labcoat) to work on your Mercedes?


  I have for sale 6 used blue lab coats, size XL.  $7.50 each 
shipped via USPO anywhere in the USA.  or I'll make a deal on all. 
Also have red, green and other colors available in an assortment of 
sizes.

 


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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Park it in my front yard and it will be green in no time from all the 
tree pollen.  I think my lungs are green now too.  My blue truck is 
green.  My ivory Benz is green.  My gray Suburban is green.


--R


On 4/1/13 10:16 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

My 140 is black on black.

And yes, they show the dirt like you wouldn't believe.

I park in a parking structure that is a block away from a flour mill. When I 
come out at the end of the day there is always a fine coating of flour on my 
car.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:


On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html


That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.


Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
getting hot in the sun?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma

2013-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas
I bought a bunch of size 52 white coveralls from a surplus store some 
years ago that have nuclear power plant logos on them.  they were like 
$2 apiece. It always disturbed me a bit that they were size 52, made me 
wonder if that was for nuke plant workers after their radiation doses 
made them balloon up, or if they just hired fatasses to begin with.


I tired wearing one once to work on a car, crawling under getting greasy 
and such, and it was so big it was a problem.  I was thinking to use 
them for Halloween costumes or something but never did.


--R

On 3/31/13 7:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote:
Ever want to look like Kent Bergsma with a spiffy navy blue service 
coat (labcoat) to work on your Mercedes?


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via USPO anywhere in the USA.  or I'll make a deal on all.  Also have 
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
That is coming as soon as the oak trees start doing their thing.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net 
wrote:

 Park it in my front yard and it will be green in no time from all the tree 
 pollen.  I think my lungs are green now too.  My blue truck is green.  My 
 ivory Benz is green.  My gray Suburban is green.
 
 --R
 
 
 On 4/1/13 10:16 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:
 My 140 is black on black.
 
 And yes, they show the dirt like you wouldn't believe.
 
 I park in a parking structure that is a block away from a flour mill. When I 
 come out at the end of the day there is always a fine coating of flour on my 
 car.
 
 Dan
 
 On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html
 
 That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.
 
 Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
 getting hot in the sun?
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
Most 140s were black.  When we went through the 
Råstatt plant, it was amazing all the cars were 
either black or silver, except for one blue and 
one red car.  Those two really stood out.




My 140 is black on black.

And yes, they show the dirt like you wouldn't believe.

I park in a parking structure that is a block 
away from a flour mill. When I come out at the 
end of the day there is always a fine coating of 
flour on my car.


Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html


  That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.
 


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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread G Mann
Come to Arizona, where we have some real sunshine, in your black on black
car. Learn about heat that gives you second degree burns at every contact
point. Then stay in love with your black beauty.. haha..

I've heard there actually are folks that love pain... not one of them.

Grant... In the land of white cars and cool color interiors..


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:

 On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html
 
  That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.
 

 Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
 getting hot in the sun?

 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread WILTON

Pine and oak around here.
Pine near Chuckietown?

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender



That is coming as soon as the oak trees start doing their thing.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Park it in my front yard and it will be green in no time from all the 
tree pollen.  I think my lungs are green now too.  My blue truck is 
green.  My ivory Benz is green.  My gray Suburban is green.


--R


On 4/1/13 10:16 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

My 140 is black on black.

And yes, they show the dirt like you wouldn't believe.

I park in a parking structure that is a block away from a flour mill. 
When I come out at the end of the day there is always a fine coating of 
flour on my car.


Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com 
wrote:



On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html


That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.


Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
getting hot in the sun?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma

2013-04-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:

 I bought a bunch of size 52 white coveralls from a surplus store some
 years ago that have nuclear power plant logos on them.  they were like $2
 apiece. It always disturbed me a bit that they were size 52, made me wonder
 if that was for nuke plant workers after their radiation doses made them
 balloon up, or if they just hired fatasses to begin with.

 I tired wearing one once to work on a car, crawling under getting greasy
 and such, and it was so big it was a problem.  I was thinking to use them
 for Halloween costumes or something but never did.


I'm a size 48 or so in a suit jacket, and I can never find surplus workwear
that's big enough.  Maybe your coveralls would work for me.  Want to send
me one for the price of shipping?  If all else fails I will definitely
enjoy having the excuse to go as an escaped nuke-plant mutant for
Halloween.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas

Both, and azaleas and whatever else is out there.  I am dying.

--R

On 4/1/13 11:11 AM, WILTON wrote:

Pine and oak around here.
Pine near Chuckietown?

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender



That is coming as soon as the oak trees start doing their thing.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Park it in my front yard and it will be green in no time from all 
the tree pollen.  I think my lungs are green now too.  My blue truck 
is green.  My ivory Benz is green.  My gray Suburban is green.


--R


On 4/1/13 10:16 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

My 140 is black on black.

And yes, they show the dirt like you wouldn't believe.

I park in a parking structure that is a block away from a flour 
mill. When I come out at the end of the day there is always a fine 
coating of flour on my car.


Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain 
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:



On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html

That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever 
seen.


Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to 
clean and

getting hot in the sun?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma

2013-04-01 Thread Rich Thomas
Yeah, let me see about digging one out, they are in a box somewhere.  
Send me your address.


--R

On 4/1/13 11:18 AM, Alex Chamberlain wrote:

On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:29 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


I bought a bunch of size 52 white coveralls from a surplus store some
years ago that have nuclear power plant logos on them.  they were like $2
apiece. It always disturbed me a bit that they were size 52, made me wonder
if that was for nuke plant workers after their radiation doses made them
balloon up, or if they just hired fatasses to begin with.

I tired wearing one once to work on a car, crawling under getting greasy
and such, and it was so big it was a problem.  I was thinking to use them
for Halloween costumes or something but never did.


I'm a size 48 or so in a suit jacket, and I can never find surplus workwear
that's big enough.  Maybe your coveralls would work for me.  Want to send
me one for the price of shipping?  If all else fails I will definitely
enjoy having the excuse to go as an escaped nuke-plant mutant for
Halloween.

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread WILTON

Yep, lots of azaleas here, too - just not quite ready, yet.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:33 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender



Both, and azaleas and whatever else is out there.  I am dying.

--R

On 4/1/13 11:11 AM, WILTON wrote:

Pine and oak around here.
Pine near Chuckietown?

Wilton

- Original Message - From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender



That is coming as soon as the oak trees start doing their thing.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:26 AM, Rich Thomas 
richthomas79td...@constructivity.net wrote:


Park it in my front yard and it will be green in no time from all 
the tree pollen.  I think my lungs are green now too.  My blue truck 
is green.  My ivory Benz is green.  My gray Suburban is green.


--R


On 4/1/13 10:16 AM, Dan Penoff wrote:

My 140 is black on black.

And yes, they show the dirt like you wouldn't believe.

I park in a parking structure that is a block away from a flour 
mill. When I come out at the end of the day there is always a fine 
coating of flour on my car.


Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain 
apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:



On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html

That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever 
seen.


Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to 
clean and

getting hot in the sun?

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma aqava1en

2013-04-01 Thread Jon Agne
I've been using old USN nomex flight suits.  They work pretty good, but they 
seem to have shrunk a lot in the past 25 years


On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

 I know there are red and green.  I'll have to check to see what other colors 
 are in the boxes.  I will try to post tomorrow night with more info.
 
 What colors do you have in Large?
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Ever want to look like Kent Bergsma with a spiffy navy blue service coat
 (labcoat) to work on your Mercedes?
 
 I have for sale 6 used blue lab coats, size XL.  $7.50 each shipped via
 USPO anywhere in the USA.  or I'll make a deal on all.  Also have red,
 green and other colors available in an assortment of sizes.
 
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Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma aqava1en

2013-04-01 Thread WILTON
My USAF green bags seem to have shrunken significantly, too.  'Didn't know 
nomex would do that.   ;)
BTW, I still occasionally wear a flight jacket of material before nomex 
(nylon? rayon?); it's probably about circa 1971 - not sure; 'still has SAC 
patch on it to replace the one I gave to the Danish civilian in the RADAR 
site (DYE-3) on the Greenland ice cap in '78.


Wilton

- Original Message - 
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma aqava1en


I've been using old USN nomex flight suits.  They work pretty good, but 
they seem to have shrunk a lot in the past 25 years



On Mar 31, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

I know there are red and green.  I'll have to check to see what other 
colors are in the boxes.  I will try to post tomorrow night with more 
info.



What colors do you have in Large?


On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 6:15 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

Ever want to look like Kent Bergsma with a spiffy navy blue service 
coat

(labcoat) to work on your Mercedes?

I have for sale 6 used blue lab coats, size XL.  $7.50 each shipped via
USPO anywhere in the USA.  or I'll make a deal on all.  Also have red,
green and other colors available in an assortment of sizes.

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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I have experienced the sun/heat in September in Phoenix. Learned not to wear 
shorts when driving a car with a black interior, and also learned why everyone 
used sunshades on their windshield.

Florida is nearly as bad, although we don't have the extreme heat, high 90s and 
100% humidity. The sun is as intense if not more, so many of the effects are 
similar.

One of the first accessories I purchased for the car was a windshield sunshade. 
I use it religiously.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:54 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 Come to Arizona, where we have some real sunshine, in your black on black
 car. Learn about heat that gives you second degree burns at every contact
 point. Then stay in love with your black beauty.. haha..
 
 I've heard there actually are folks that love pain... not one of them.
 
 Grant... In the land of white cars and cool color interiors..
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain 
 apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html
 
 That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.
 
 
 Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
 getting hot in the sun?
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
In the next few weeks we will start to get the daily dusting of oak pollen. It 
coats your car with a layer of yellowish green pollen and doesn't blow off 
easily.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:11 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Pine and oak around here.
 Pine near Chuckietown?
 
 Wilton
 

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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread WILTON

'Same here.

Wilton

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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender


In the next few weeks we will start to get the daily dusting of oak 
pollen. It coats your car with a layer of yellowish green pollen and 
doesn't blow off easily.


Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:11 AM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:


Pine and oak around here.
Pine near Chuckietown?

Wilton



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Re: [MBZ] 1993 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2013-04-01 Thread Craig
On Sun, 31 Mar 2013 21:46:40 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel
astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Is this.a turbodiesel?

Yes, and a rod bender, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread G Mann
I've seen interior temps in a car reach 185 F routinely.  Another survival
tip in this climate is to lower your windows about 1 inch to vent hot air
bubble at roof. That's good for about 20 F less interior temp.

Brutal environment in summers. Come in the winter, spend lots of money, we
will love you.
[Hey, it's still cheaper than snow removal, right?
Grant...


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:

 I have experienced the sun/heat in September in Phoenix. Learned not to
 wear shorts when driving a car with a black interior, and also learned why
 everyone used sunshades on their windshield.

 Florida is nearly as bad, although we don't have the extreme heat, high
 90s and 100% humidity. The sun is as intense if not more, so many of the
 effects are similar.

 One of the first accessories I purchased for the car was a windshield
 sunshade. I use it religiously.

 Dan

 On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:54 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

  Come to Arizona, where we have some real sunshine, in your black on black
  car. Learn about heat that gives you second degree burns at every contact
  point. Then stay in love with your black beauty.. haha..
 
  I've heard there actually are folks that love pain... not one of them.
 
  Grant... In the land of white cars and cool color interiors..
 
 
  On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain 
 apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
  On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html
 
  That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.
 
 
  Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
  getting hot in the sun?
 
  Alex
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I leave my sunroof up when it's really hot as long as there is no threat if 
rain. That helps some.

I have found that the use of my custom Covercraft windshield sunshade is the 
most efficient means of keeping interior temperatures as low as possible, given 
the climate. I think it set me back less than $30, and I got it 2-3 days after 
I ordered it. I have had them for every car I own.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 2:03 PM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've seen interior temps in a car reach 185 F routinely.  Another survival
 tip in this climate is to lower your windows about 1 inch to vent hot air
 bubble at roof. That's good for about 20 F less interior temp.
 
 Brutal environment in summers. Come in the winter, spend lots of money, we
 will love you.
 [Hey, it's still cheaper than snow removal, right?
 Grant...
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com wrote:
 
 I have experienced the sun/heat in September in Phoenix. Learned not to
 wear shorts when driving a car with a black interior, and also learned why
 everyone used sunshades on their windshield.
 
 Florida is nearly as bad, although we don't have the extreme heat, high
 90s and 100% humidity. The sun is as intense if not more, so many of the
 effects are similar.
 
 One of the first accessories I purchased for the car was a windshield
 sunshade. I use it religiously.
 
 Dan
 
 On Apr 1, 2013, at 10:54 AM, G Mann g2ma...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Come to Arizona, where we have some real sunshine, in your black on black
 car. Learn about heat that gives you second degree burns at every contact
 point. Then stay in love with your black beauty.. haha..
 
 I've heard there actually are folks that love pain... not one of them.
 
 Grant... In the land of white cars and cool color interiors..
 
 
 On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Alex Chamberlain 
 apchamberl...@gmail.comwrote:
 
 On Mar 31, 2013 3:14 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 http://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/3710081261.html
 That has to be the worst choice of colors for a 126 I have ever seen.
 
 Huh?  What's wrong with black on black, besides being hard to clean and
 getting hot in the sun?
 
 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] my recent 300td travels

2013-04-01 Thread Randy Bennell
I have glued glass back on with silicone caulking. Takes overnight to 
set up so you need to start out holding it on with tape  but it never 
fell off after it dried.


Randy

On 31/03/2013 5:07 PM, Tim Crone wrote:

On Mar 31, 2013 1:51 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote:

OK, so yesterday, we replaced the driver's glass and changed the oil. I

have a used bare mirror glass for the outside mirror. What is the best way
to attach that to the mirror unit?

If you have the backing plate there is a trick I don't recall to take it
off, I think it involves a friction mount.  If it is glass only, I have
used white bonds to plastic superglue from FLAPS, got it in the aisle
near the rear view mirrors.  It was supposed to be temporary but has lasted
for a couple years now.

Glad you are okay!

Best,
Tim





thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
I loved the 46-52? chevy pickups with the sunvisor outside the cab. 
It was an option.




I leave my sunroof up when it's really hot as long as there is no 
threat if rain. That helps some.


I have found that the use of my custom Covercraft windshield 
sunshade is the most efficient means of keeping interior 
temperatures as low as possible, given the climate. I think it set 
me back less than $30, and I got it 2-3 days after I ordered it. I 
have had them for every car I own.


Dan


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[MBZ] Subject: Re: 1993 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2013-04-01 Thread RDeafBoy
Hey Dan..I have those foldup ones on which I used with Black double 
 faced tape onto the vinyl doorcover. I didn't want to screw it either, 
just  like you said . After about 7 years I have to redo the d/f  tape due  to 
the inside heat of the car during the summers. But other than that,it holds  
the drinks well. I got them on Ebay years ago-with the woodgrain look
 
Bob
83 240D 
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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: 1993 Mercedes Benz 300SD

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
The W140 coupe doors just don't have a place for these. About the only place 
you could put one would be on the wood trim, which I wouldn't due because of 
the potential for damage.

Dan

On Apr 1, 2013, at 3:39 PM, rdeaf...@aol.com wrote:

 Hey Dan..I have those foldup ones on which I used with Black double 
 faced tape onto the vinyl doorcover. I didn't want to screw it either, 
 just  like you said . After about 7 years I have to redo the d/f  tape due  
 to 
 the inside heat of the car during the summers. But other than that,it holds  
 the drinks well. I got them on Ebay years ago-with the woodgrain look
 
 Bob
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Re: [MBZ] No low ballets please. Rodbender

2013-04-01 Thread Gerry Archer

From: Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net

Both, and azaleas and whatever else is out there.  I am dying.
--R


I wear an AO Hepa filter mask outside during the pollen season and often 
during the summer when the mold spore count is high and the wind is not off 
the Gulf since I'm allergic to nearly all of it down here in Florida. 
Started wearing the first ones available in the 1960s that had to be ordered 
from Mine Safety Appliance Co in Pittsburgh.
The only commercial masks commonly available nowadays are the 3M Hepa filter 
masks which don't fit very tightly. The masks from allergy supply companies 
don't seem to work very well.
Also have a couple of HEPA filters in the shop and in the house AC ducting 
that work quite well.


Get some interesting reactions wearing the mask while driving.  Pulled into 
a supermarket one day and a tough looking but well dressed guy in a late 
model sports car whipped into the spot beside me, hopped out, and came over 
to my window with an ugly look on his face.   He demanded to know what I was 
wearing.  I told him.  Then he demanded to know why.  I told him because I 
was allergic to pollen and mold spores.  He stared at me for a few seconds 
like he didn't believe me and then jumped in his car and roared off.
Still don't know what all that was about but I would guess that he was 
either a sheriffs detective, or more likely an employee of the power plant 
down the road who thought I was against coal fired power plants and trying 
to send a message to the public that the coal plant was polluting the air.
The power plant is union organized and I hear that some of their union 
members are pretty tough.


Florida is about like SC for pollen and mold spores, but living along the 
coast provides some relief when the wind is off the Gulf or ocean.  Right on 
the beach there is usually a daily salt-laden breeze off the water which is 
beneficial for those with allergies.


Gerry 



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Re: [MBZ] my recent 300td travels

2013-04-01 Thread Michael Canfield
Silicone caulk makes a great adhesive, comes in clear and is super easy to
clean off excess after it dries.  RTV silicone gasket maker is commonly
used to glue skid plates to oil and transmission pans on rock crawling rigs.

Mike
On Apr 1, 2013 2:43 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 I have glued glass back on with silicone caulking. Takes overnight to set
 up so you need to start out holding it on with tape  but it never fell off
 after it dried.

 Randy

 On 31/03/2013 5:07 PM, Tim Crone wrote:

 On Mar 31, 2013 1:51 PM, Rick Hawkins Java macj...@aol.com wrote:

 OK, so yesterday, we replaced the driver's glass and changed the oil. I

 have a used bare mirror glass for the outside mirror. What is the best way
 to attach that to the mirror unit?

 If you have the backing plate there is a trick I don't recall to take it
 off, I think it involves a friction mount.  If it is glass only, I have
 used white bonds to plastic superglue from FLAPS, got it in the aisle
 near the rear view mirrors.  It was supposed to be temporary but has
 lasted
 for a couple years now.

 Glad you are okay!

 Best,
 Tim




 thanks,

 xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Mitch Haley

Dan Penoff wrote:

Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now 
recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.


Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread WILTON
BTW, what makes a classic a classic?  Does somebody wave a wand, 
sprinkle a certain magic dust, time passes or what?


Wilton

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Dan Penoff wrote:
Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now 
recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.


Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Mitch Haley

WILTON wrote:
BTW, what makes a classic a classic?  Does somebody wave a wand, 
sprinkle a certain magic dust, time passes or what?


It used to mean 'the last one rolled off the line 20 years ago, so be glad we 
still have parts at any price'.

But the W140 is 20 years from inception, not 20 years from obsolescence.

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Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I liken it to the old bit about the lights going down in a restaurant 
signifying that prices are going up.

Dan

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On Apr 1, 2013, at 6:29 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Dan Penoff wrote:
 Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now 
 recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.
 
 Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
 Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Dan Penoff
I suspect it's an end of life sort of thing. When they see the revenue from 
the parts going down below a certain point it's no longer profitable, so they 
push it off to the Classic Center.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

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 BTW, what makes a classic a classic?  Does somebody wave a wand, sprinkle 
 a certain magic dust, time passes or what?
 
 Wilton
 
 - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 6:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic
 
 
 Dan Penoff wrote:
 Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now 
 recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.
 
 Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
 Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Rusty Cullens

We'll,  know that I am a classic!



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Subject: Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic


 Dan Penoff wrote:
 Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now 
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 Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
 Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
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Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread WILTON

Well, maybe I am, too.

Wilton

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We'll,  know that I am a classic!



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Dan Penoff wrote:

Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now
recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.


Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Rusty Cullens
Of course you are!


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Well, maybe I am, too.

Wilton

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We'll,  know that I am a classic!



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 Dan Penoff wrote:
 Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now
 recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.

 Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
 Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
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[MBZ] 140 in M100 land WAS:W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
You pretty much got it.  Classic means the prices go to 600 and 
M100 territory.  BTW, what is the chassis typ number of the 600s?



Dan Penoff wrote:
Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic 
Center now recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.


Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] 140 in M100 land WAS:W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Jaime Kopchinski
W100.  What else?


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 You pretty much got it.  Classic means the prices go to 600 and M100
 territory.  BTW, what is the chassis typ number of the 600s?

  Dan Penoff wrote:

 Tom just posted on the MBCA forums that MBUSA and the Classic Center now
 recognize the W140 chassis as a classic.


 Does that mean 25% per annum price changes on parts?
 Seems like that's what happened to W116 about ten years ago.
 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] 140 in M100 land WAS:W140 is now a classic

2013-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
Thanks.  I forgot.  The M100 handshake is the same as the w100 
handshake.  Guess we could just say M/W100 handshake.




W100.  What else?


On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 You pretty much got it.  Classic means the prices go to 600 and M100

  territory.  BTW, what is the chassis typ number of the 600s?
 



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Re: [MBZ] Today's Møøse Stüff

2013-04-01 Thread clay
I find it very interesting.  Illuminates the early impacts of these people on 
northern england


clay

On Mar 30, 2013, at 4:35 PM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Speaking of Greenland, is anyone watching the series Vikings? It's quite good.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Mar 30, 2013, at 6:41 PM, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:
 
 BTW, my Danish friends in Greenland said that I was the only American they'd 
 seen/met who could pronounce rødgrød med fløde properly.
 If you're wondering what is - a red jam-like substance/food with cream/milk. 
 They enjoyed hearing me pronounce rødgrød med fløde and Søndrestrøm Fjørd 
 po Dansk.
 
 Wilton
 
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 BTW, I s'pøse prønøuncing møøse wøuld require a døuble pucker.  ;)
 
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 'Found ǿ in Character Map but not just *ø.*
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] To Bergsma or not to Bergsma

2013-04-01 Thread clay
I wear one to work on my cars.  Even has the tri-star and name of #2 boy on the 
chest

clay

On Mar 31, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

 Ever want to look like Kent Bergsma with a spiffy navy blue service coat 
 (labcoat) to work on your Mercedes?
 
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[MBZ] OT-Trurntable drive belts

2013-04-01 Thread clay
I am in need of measurements for an older Sharp RP-155 turntable.  Actually for 
the drive belt.

I was up at Dad's for Easter yesterday.  He has stage 4 gastric cancer and I 
had come upon a few old albums that he might like.  I got to play a few and 
then the drive belt in his 30 year old turntable bit it.  The belt aged out and 
fell apart.  I am not able to put the bits together enough to find a 
measurement of the belt.  Do any of the members of the list have access to old 
european stereo data that would point me toward a belt so he can listen to his 
records?

Sharp is not any help.  I think they lost the data, as the CSA was not standard 
english speaker and his screen was not showing information.





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Re: [MBZ] OT-Trurntable drive belts

2013-04-01 Thread Dieselhead
If I ever get any free time, I will need a belt for a Pioneer PL-12D 
circa early 1972.



I am in need of measurements for an older Sharp RP-155 turntable. 
Actually for the drive belt.


I was up at Dad's for Easter yesterday.  He has stage 4 gastric 
cancer and I had come upon a few old albums that he might like.  I 
got to play a few and then the drive belt in his 30 year old 
turntable bit it.  The belt aged out and fell apart.  I am not able 
to put the bits together enough to find a measurement of the belt. 
Do any of the members of the list have access to old european stereo 
data that would point me toward a belt so he can listen to his 
records?


Sharp is not any help.  I think they lost the data, as the CSA was 
not standard english speaker and his screen was not showing 
information.





clay


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Re: [MBZ] OT-Trurntable drive belts

2013-04-01 Thread Alex Chamberlain
On Apr 1, 2013 8:36 PM, clay redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 I am in need of measurements for an older Sharp RP-155 turntable.
 Actually for the drive belt.


MCM Electronics might be able to help.  www.mcm.com

Alex
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Re: [MBZ] OT-Trurntable drive belts

2013-04-01 Thread Fmiser
 clay wrote:

 I am in need of measurements for an older Sharp RP-155
 turntable.  Actually for the drive belt.

MCM Electronics 
https://www.mcmelectronics.com/  

Used to be the best place I found to get that sort of stuff.  I
haven't needed a belt in years, so I don't know how good their
selection is now.  I would not hold much hope for them being
able to cross-reference from a part or model number - but if you
have dimensions, I suspect the chances are pretty good.

Here is the URL of the search for flat belt on MCM's site.
http://electronics.mcmelectronics.com/search?p=KKsrid=S8-UKSR01lbc=mcmelectronicsts=custompw=drive%20beltuid=758023617isort=scoreview=listw=Flat%20Beltrk=2

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[MBZ] OM601 crate

2013-04-01 Thread clay
http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/pts/3717267774.html

not mine, no... uh, this would be s totally cool dumped into a R107 
chassis interest

clay
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Re: [MBZ] OT-Trurntable drive belts

2013-04-01 Thread clay
Goodness!  That is a plethora of drive belt.  Might have to go with the 
assortment pack and see what fits best

clay

On Apr 1, 2013, at 9:19 PM, Fmiser wrote:

 clay wrote:
 
 I am in need of measurements for an older Sharp RP-155
 turntable.  Actually for the drive belt.
 
 MCM Electronics 
 https://www.mcmelectronics.com/  
 
 Used to be the best place I found to get that sort of stuff.  I
 haven't needed a belt in years, so I don't know how good their
 selection is now.  I would not hold much hope for them being
 able to cross-reference from a part or model number - but if you
 have dimensions, I suspect the chances are pretty good.
 
 Here is the URL of the search for flat belt on MCM's site.
 http://electronics.mcmelectronics.com/search?p=KKsrid=S8-UKSR01lbc=mcmelectronicsts=custompw=drive%20beltuid=758023617isort=scoreview=listw=Flat%20Beltrk=2
 
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