Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
> Dan wrote: > So my question is this: > > Are the DIY tire plugging kits a realistic alternative? Oh yeah. I have many thousands of miles on at least a few dozen tires I have put plugs in. > Is there anything I should be aware of when choosing one? Get the gooey plugs, a reamer, and a "T" handle plug inserter. > Mitch wrote: > Hardest part about using it is cleaning the goo off your shears > after you cut the excess off. I use an old pair of diagonal cutters just for cutting plugs - and so don't bother trying to get them very clean. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
> Dan--- wrote: > The question is, do I pull it out and plug the hole, or just > leave it alone? If it were my tire, I would pull the nail out and plug the hole. Easy choice. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
AC condenser? Charger hooked up to the auxiliary battery? Empty coolant tank? Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: May 22, 2019 4:29 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: d...@penoff.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse Bt! No winners yet. Keep trying -D > On May 21, 2019, at 11:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > There is a big ugly black plastic thing where there should be an engine. > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 9:32 PM: >> >> One more thing… >> >> Take a look at this picture of the car and tell me what I *think* is >> glaringly wrong: >> >> >> >> If you can’t see the picture, here’s a link to it on my web site: >> >> http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0 >> >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
Getting warm. No aux battery, that’s the main (only) one. Coolant tank is full of plain water, which is why you don’t see anything. What about the AC condenser? -D > On May 22, 2019, at 5:51 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > AC condenser? Charger hooked up to the auxiliary battery? Empty coolant tank? > > > Rick > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Sent: May 22, 2019 4:29 AM > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > Cc: d...@penoff.com > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse > > Bt! > > No winners yet. Keep trying > > -D > >> On May 21, 2019, at 11:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> There is a big ugly black plastic thing where there should be an engine. >> >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 9:32 PM: >>> >>> One more thing… >>> >>> Take a look at this picture of the car and tell me what I *think* is >>> glaringly wrong: >>> >>> >>> >>> If you can’t see the picture, here’s a link to it on my web site: >>> >>> http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0 >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
> On May 22, 2019 at 3:03 AM fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Hardest part about using it is cleaning the goo off your shears > > after you cut the excess off. > > I use an old pair of diagonal cutters just for cutting plugs - and > so don't bother trying to get them very clean. > One time I remembered there was an old blade stowed in the handle of my Stanley knife so I used the old one and threw it away. Now that I've got a box of single edge razors for my razor scraper, six cents worth of razor blade would do the job. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
DING DING DING! We have a winner!! Unless there’s something I’m not familiar with on this model, the car has no auxiliary fan in front of the condenser. I found a double fan setup in the EPC, but for the life of me I couldn’t find abandoned wires or connectors. If anyone out there with an ML can give me an idea of where the electricals are for the fans if they exist (Mitch?) I would appreciate it. There’s nothing based on appearance or things in this area that would suggest auxiliary fans existed. Paint or dirt patterns, nothing that I could see. I will say that the condenser is huge! The AC, when the blower is working, is ICE COLD. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > It appears to be missing the aux fan. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 21, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me every >> time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the most part, >> it’s really frustrating. >> >> Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the >> garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir. >> >> Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the >> radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic petcock >> on the front left side of the radiator. OK, I can do that. >> >> Not. >> >> I find the petcock, but I can’t turn it. It’s a plastic tab that you turn to >> unscrew the valve out to open it, and it’s in a really tight space in the >> front behind the bumper. I finally get a crescent wrench on it and carefully >> turn, fully expecting it to snap off. It doesn’t. Relief! But there’s barely >> a trickle of coolant coming out of the drain. I turn some more, and more >> coolant comes out, but it’s hardly anything of significance. And yes, I had >> taken the cap off of the reservoir prior to opening the drain. >> >> I turn it a few more times alternating between a monkey wrench and a >> crescent wrench to turn it. Coolant is coming out now, but not a big gush. >> Hmm. >> >> So I work on replacing the coolant reservoir. Not bad, a few hoses were >> reluctant to come off, but I got them off without damage eventually. >> Installed the new reservoir, not a big deal. >> >> I move to the right rear to do the caliper. I break the hose fitting first, >> and it comes loose without issue (thank you, Kroil!!!) Get the caliper bolts >> out no problem. Disconnect the wear indicator connector. Remove the caliper >> and unscrew it from the hose. Screw the hose into the new caliper and mount >> the caliper back on the backing plate. Tighten hose. It’s got a bit of >> tension on it, so I soaked the hard line fitting where it meets the hose in >> anticipation for breaking this union and rotating the hose to relieve some >> of the tension on it. >> >> Nope, not going to tempt Fate tonight. >> >> Get the rear caliper all tightened down and hook up my power bleeder. I >> really wanted to bleed the whol ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
Bt! No winners yet. Keep trying -D > On May 21, 2019, at 11:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes > wrote: > > There is a big ugly black plastic thing where there should be an engine. > > Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 9:32 PM: >> >> One more thing… >> >> Take a look at this picture of the car and tell me what I *think* is >> glaringly wrong: >> >> >> >> If you can’t see the picture, here’s a link to it on my web site: >> >> http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0 >> >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
It appears to be missing the aux fan. Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me every > time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the most part, > it’s really frustrating. > > Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the > garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir. > > Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the > radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic petcock > on the front left side of the radiator. OK, I can do that. > > Not. > > I find the petcock, but I can’t turn it. It’s a plastic tab that you turn to > unscrew the valve out to open it, and it’s in a really tight space in the > front behind the bumper. I finally get a crescent wrench on it and carefully > turn, fully expecting it to snap off. It doesn’t. Relief! But there’s barely > a trickle of coolant coming out of the drain. I turn some more, and more > coolant comes out, but it’s hardly anything of significance. And yes, I had > taken the cap off of the reservoir prior to opening the drain. > > I turn it a few more times alternating between a monkey wrench and a crescent > wrench to turn it. Coolant is coming out now, but not a big gush. Hmm. > > So I work on replacing the coolant reservoir. Not bad, a few hoses were > reluctant to come off, but I got them off without damage eventually. > Installed the new reservoir, not a big deal. > > I move to the right rear to do the caliper. I break the hose fitting first, > and it comes loose without issue (thank you, Kroil!!!) Get the caliper bolts > out no problem. Disconnect the wear indicator connector. Remove the caliper > and unscrew it from the hose. Screw the hose into the new caliper and mount > the caliper back on the backing plate. Tighten hose. It’s got a bit of > tension on it, so I soaked the hard line fitting where it meets the hose in > anticipation for breaking this union and rotating the hose to relieve some of > the tension on it. > > Nope, not going to tempt Fate tonight. > > Get the rear caliper all tightened down and hook up my power bleeder. I > really wanted to bleed the whole brake system, as the fluid looked terrible, > but I had barely half a liter on the shelf so I didn’t want to run out. > Something for the next parts run. Bled out the caliper and put everything > back in place. Back to the cooling system. > > So now it’s time to close the valve on the radiator and fill the system up > with some water for now. I’ll run it with straight water in it for a few > miles, then drain and flush it before filling with MB coolant. > > So I start turning the valve with my two wrenches, alternating them to get on > the valve tab. I turn a lot. I turn more. I’m thinking that there is no way I > unscrewed this valve that far. So I get into the area around the valve with a > light and a mirror, and notice the valve is sticking out of the radiator > quite a ways. It appeared that I was turning the valve but it was not > engaging whatever means it used to move back into the radiator housing. > Perhaps I unscrewed it too far? > > So I go at it again with my wrenches, applying pressure on the valve as I > turn. After a few turns it appears to be moving into the housing. I finally > get it to a point where it seems tight, and put some water in the coolant > reservoir. Then I hear dripping…. > > Apparently the valve isn’t sealing or all the way closed. But I tightened it > down as far as I dared since it was a plastic valve. I get on it with my > crescent wrench and turn it again as hard as I dare without braking it. The > dripping stops. I had moved it maybe 10-15 degrees, if that. But it seemed to > be sealed. > > Whew! > > Refilled the cooling system with water and closed it up. Moved the vehicle > back into the driveway and called it a night. > > One more thing… > > Take a look at this picture of the car and tell me what I *think* is > glaringly wrong: > > > > If you can’t see the picture, here’s a link to it on my web site: > > http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0 > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
It's fantastic? On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:37 AM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Getting warm. No aux battery, that’s the main (only) one. Coolant tank is > full of plain water, which is why you don’t see anything. > > What about the AC condenser? > > -D > > > On May 22, 2019, at 5:51 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > AC condenser? Charger hooked up to the auxiliary battery? Empty coolant > tank? > > > > > > Rick > > > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Sent: May 22, 2019 4:29 AM > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com > > Cc: d...@penoff.com > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse > > > > Bt! > > > > No winners yet. Keep trying > > > > -D > > > >> On May 21, 2019, at 11:32 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> There is a big ugly black plastic thing where there should be an engine. > >> > >> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 9:32 PM: > >>> > >>> One more thing… > >>> > >>> Take a look at this picture of the car and tell me what I *think* is > glaringly wrong: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> If you can’t see the picture, here’s a link to it on my web site: > >>> > >>> http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0 > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
So's mine. The deer damaged the plastic and the fan rubbed the shroud. When I found out I could drive around in 90 degree weather with the AC on and not miss it, I decided not to buy a replacement. Florida Man with a V8 might feel differently. > On May 22, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > > It appears to be missing the aux fan. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think the odo might have rolled over
Wow. I've never seen a speedometer face deteriorate like that. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 9:24 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://www.copart.com/lot/45039118 > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
If that is the case then it won’t have an aux fan. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I think it’s got an electric fan on the back of the radiator. I’ll have to > look, but I’m pretty sure that’s the setup. > > I can see where that might preclude the need for an aux fan. > > -D > >> On May 22, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Does yours have a regular fan clutch or the electric fan on the back side of >> the radiator like the 99 and up e320? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 22, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I ask my parts guy to check the EPC for me with the VIN. >>> >>> I can’t imagine it didn’t have them, but I’m trying to figure out where the >>> wiring harness is, as I see nothing anywhere near the area that appears to >>> be cut off or abandoned. >>> >>> -D >>> On May 22, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I will take a look at mine. All of them I have seen has had an aux fan. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > DING DING DING! > > We have a winner!! > > Unless there’s something I’m not familiar with on this model, the car has > no auxiliary fan in front of the condenser. I found a double fan setup in > the EPC, but for the life of me I couldn’t find abandoned wires or > connectors. If anyone out there with an ML can give me an idea of where > the electricals are for the fans if they exist (Mitch?) I would > appreciate it. > > There’s nothing based on appearance or things in this area that would > suggest auxiliary fans existed. Paint or dirt patterns, nothing that I > could see. I will say that the condenser is huge! The AC, when the blower > is working, is ICE COLD. > > -D > >> On May 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It appears to be missing the aux fan. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 21, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me >>> every time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the >>> most part, it’s really frustrating. >>> >>> Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off >>> the garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir. >>> >>> Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the >>> radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic >>> petcock on the front left side of the radiator. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
Pretty much my thought. Should I let most of the pressure out of the tire before I pull the nail out? It’s been easily 40 years since I plugged a tire. I have no recollection of the process... -D On May 22, 2019, at 3:04 AM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >> Dan--- wrote: > >> The question is, do I pull it out and plug the hole, or just >> leave it alone? > > If it were my tire, I would pull the nail out and plug the hole. > Easy choice. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
No, leave the pressure in the tire. If it does go low before you get the plug in, you'll have to pump it back up so the tread is stiff enough that you can push the plug in. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 8:55 AM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > > Should I let most of the pressure out of the tire before I pull the nail > out? > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
I will take a look at mine. All of them I have seen has had an aux fan. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > DING DING DING! > > We have a winner!! > > Unless there’s something I’m not familiar with on this model, the car has no > auxiliary fan in front of the condenser. I found a double fan setup in the > EPC, but for the life of me I couldn’t find abandoned wires or connectors. If > anyone out there with an ML can give me an idea of where the electricals are > for the fans if they exist (Mitch?) I would appreciate it. > > There’s nothing based on appearance or things in this area that would suggest > auxiliary fans existed. Paint or dirt patterns, nothing that I could see. I > will say that the condenser is huge! The AC, when the blower is working, is > ICE COLD. > > -D > >> On May 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> It appears to be missing the aux fan. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 21, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me every >>> time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the most part, >>> it’s really frustrating. >>> >>> Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the >>> garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir. >>> >>> Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the >>> radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic >>> petcock on the front left side of the radiator. OK, I can do that. >>> >>> Not. >>> >>> I find the petcock, but I can’t turn it. It’s a plastic tab that you turn >>> to unscrew the valve out to open it, and it’s in a really tight space in >>> the front behind the bumper. I finally get a crescent wrench on it and >>> carefully turn, fully expecting it to snap off. It doesn’t. Relief! But >>> there’s barely a trickle of coolant coming out of the drain. I turn some >>> more, and more coolant comes out, but it’s hardly anything of significance. >>> And yes, I had taken the cap off of the reservoir prior to opening the >>> drain. >>> >>> I turn it a few more times alternating between a monkey wrench and a >>> crescent wrench to turn it. Coolant is coming out now, but not a big gush. >>> Hmm. >>> >>> So I work on replacing the coolant reservoir. Not bad, a few hoses were >>> reluctant to come off, but I got them off without damage eventually. >>> Installed the new reservoir, not a big deal. >>> >>> I move to the right rear to do the caliper. I break the hose fitting first, >>> and it comes loose without issue (thank you, Kroil!!!) Get the caliper >>> bolts out no problem. Disconnect the wear indicator connector. Remove the >>> caliper and unscrew it from the hose. Screw the hose into the new caliper >>> and mount the caliper back on the backing plate. Tighten hose. It’s got a >>> bit of tension on it, so I soaked the hard line fitting where it meets the >>> hose in anticipation for breaking this union and rotating the hose to >>> relieve some of the tension on it. >>> >>> Nope, not going to tempt Fate tonight. >>> >>> Get the rear caliper all tightened down and hook up my power bleeder. I >>> really wanted to bleed the whol > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
I ask my parts guy to check the EPC for me with the VIN. I can’t imagine it didn’t have them, but I’m trying to figure out where the wiring harness is, as I see nothing anywhere near the area that appears to be cut off or abandoned. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I will take a look at mine. All of them I have seen has had an aux fan. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 22, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> DING DING DING! >> >> We have a winner!! >> >> Unless there’s something I’m not familiar with on this model, the car has no >> auxiliary fan in front of the condenser. I found a double fan setup in the >> EPC, but for the life of me I couldn’t find abandoned wires or connectors. >> If anyone out there with an ML can give me an idea of where the electricals >> are for the fans if they exist (Mitch?) I would appreciate it. >> >> There’s nothing based on appearance or things in this area that would >> suggest auxiliary fans existed. Paint or dirt patterns, nothing that I could >> see. I will say that the condenser is huge! The AC, when the blower is >> working, is ICE COLD. >> >> -D >> >>> On May 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> It appears to be missing the aux fan. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 21, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me every time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the most part, it’s really frustrating. Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir. Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic petcock on the front left side of the radiator. OK, I can do that. Not. I find the petcock, but I can’t turn it. It’s a plastic tab that you turn to unscrew the valve out to open it, and it’s in a really tight space in the front behind the bumper. I finally get a crescent wrench on it and carefully turn, fully expecting it to snap off. It doesn’t. Relief! But there’s barely a trickle of coolant coming out of the drain. I turn some more, and more coolant comes out, but it’s hardly anything of significance. And yes, I had taken the cap off of the reservoir prior to opening the drain. I turn it a few more times alternating between a monkey wrench and a crescent wrench to turn it. Coolant is coming out now, but not a big gush. Hmm. So I work on replacing the coolant reservoir. Not bad, a few hoses were reluctant to come off, but I got them off without damage eventually. Installed the new reservoir, not a big deal. I move to the right rear to do the caliper. I break the hose fitting first, and it comes loose without issue (thank you, Kroil!!!) Get the caliper bolts out no problem. Disconnect the wear indicator connector. Remove the caliper and unscrew it from the hose. Screw the hose into the new caliper and mount the caliper back on the backing plate. Tighten hose. It’s got a bit of tension on it, so I soaked the hard line fitting where it meets the hose in anticipation for breaking this union and rotating the hose to relieve some of the tension on it. Nope, not going to tempt Fate tonight. Get the rear caliper all tightened down and hook up my power bleeder. I really wanted to bleed the whol >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
I think it’s got an electric fan on the back of the radiator. I’ll have to look, but I’m pretty sure that’s the setup. I can see where that might preclude the need for an aux fan. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does yours have a regular fan clutch or the electric fan on the back side of > the radiator like the 99 and up e320? > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 22, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I ask my parts guy to check the EPC for me with the VIN. >> >> I can’t imagine it didn’t have them, but I’m trying to figure out where the >> wiring harness is, as I see nothing anywhere near the area that appears to >> be cut off or abandoned. >> >> -D >> >>> On May 22, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I will take a look at mine. All of them I have seen has had an aux fan. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 22, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: DING DING DING! We have a winner!! Unless there’s something I’m not familiar with on this model, the car has no auxiliary fan in front of the condenser. I found a double fan setup in the EPC, but for the life of me I couldn’t find abandoned wires or connectors. If anyone out there with an ML can give me an idea of where the electricals are for the fans if they exist (Mitch?) I would appreciate it. There’s nothing based on appearance or things in this area that would suggest auxiliary fans existed. Paint or dirt patterns, nothing that I could see. I will say that the condenser is huge! The AC, when the blower is working, is ICE COLD. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > It appears to be missing the aux fan. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 21, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me >> every time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the >> most part, it’s really frustrating. >> >> Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the >> garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir. >> >> Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the >> radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic >> petcock on the front left side of the radiator. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
Makes sense. I never thought about it, I just thought it was weird that there was no aux fan. Guess it’s because I haven’t had anything this new. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 9:09 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > If that is the case then it won’t have an aux fan. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 22, 2019, at 8:05 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I think it’s got an electric fan on the back of the radiator. I’ll have to >> look, but I’m pretty sure that’s the setup. >> >> I can see where that might preclude the need for an aux fan. >> >> -D >> >>> On May 22, 2019, at 8:59 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> Does yours have a regular fan clutch or the electric fan on the back side >>> of the radiator like the 99 and up e320? >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 22, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: I ask my parts guy to check the EPC for me with the VIN. I can’t imagine it didn’t have them, but I’m trying to figure out where the wiring harness is, as I see nothing anywhere near the area that appears to be cut off or abandoned. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I will take a look at mine. All of them I have seen has had an aux fan. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 22, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> DING DING DING! >> >> We have a winner!! >> >> Unless there’s something I’m not familiar with on this model, the car >> has no auxiliary fan in front of the condenser. I found a double fan >> setup in the EPC, but for the life of me I couldn’t find abandoned wires >> or connectors. If anyone out there with an ML can give me an idea of >> where the electricals are for the fans if they exist (Mitch?) I would >> appreciate it. >> >> There’s nothing based on appearance or things in this area that would >> suggest auxiliary fans existed. Paint or dirt patterns, nothing that I >> could see. I will say that the condenser is huge! The AC, when the >> blower is working, is ICE COLD. >> >> -D >> >>> On May 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> It appears to be missing the aux fan. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 21, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me every time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the most part, it’s really frustrating. Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir. Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic petcock on the front left side of the radiator. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Next ML Question
So the right rear tire has some really weird wear on it. Inboard part of the tread is really worn while the outside part of the tread isn’t, maybe 3/16 variation in tread height. It doesn’t look even, either, like it’s scalloped. I don’t see anything amiss with the wheel, like curb rash, that would indicate it’s bent or damaged. Suspension in this area looks good and consistent with the other side. No strange noises or handling issues while driving. Not sure what, if anything, I can do at this point short of maybe asking my tire guy to see if the rim is bent. Any suggestions on possible things I could do to see what’s up? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
That makes sense. But don’t I have to ream the hole before I put the plug in? -D > On May 22, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > No, leave the pressure in the tire. If it does go low before you get the > plug in, you'll have to pump it back up so the tread is stiff enough that > you can push the plug in. > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 8:55 AM Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > >> >> Should I let most of the pressure out of the tire before I pull the nail >> out? >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
Does yours have a regular fan clutch or the electric fan on the back side of the radiator like the 99 and up e320? Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 7:56 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > I ask my parts guy to check the EPC for me with the VIN. > > I can’t imagine it didn’t have them, but I’m trying to figure out where the > wiring harness is, as I see nothing anywhere near the area that appears to be > cut off or abandoned. > > -D > >> On May 22, 2019, at 8:43 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I will take a look at mine. All of them I have seen has had an aux fan. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 22, 2019, at 7:14 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> DING DING DING! >>> >>> We have a winner!! >>> >>> Unless there’s something I’m not familiar with on this model, the car has >>> no auxiliary fan in front of the condenser. I found a double fan setup in >>> the EPC, but for the life of me I couldn’t find abandoned wires or >>> connectors. If anyone out there with an ML can give me an idea of where the >>> electricals are for the fans if they exist (Mitch?) I would appreciate it. >>> >>> There’s nothing based on appearance or things in this area that would >>> suggest auxiliary fans existed. Paint or dirt patterns, nothing that I >>> could see. I will say that the condenser is huge! The AC, when the blower >>> is working, is ICE COLD. >>> >>> -D >>> On May 22, 2019, at 7:52 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: It appears to be missing the aux fan. Sent from my iPhone > On May 21, 2019, at 9:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me > every time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the > most part, it’s really frustrating. > > Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the > garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir. > > Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the > radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic > petcock on the front left side of the radiator. OK, I can do that. > > Not. > > I find the petcock, but I can’t turn it. It’s a plastic tab that you turn > to unscrew the valve out to open it, and it’s in a really tight space in > the front behind the bumper. I finally get a crescent wrench on it and > carefully turn, fully expecting it to snap off. It doesn’t. Relief! But > there’s barely a trickle of coolant coming out of the drain. I turn some > more, and more coolant comes out, but it’s hardly anything of > significance. And yes, I had taken the cap off of the reservoir prior to > opening the drain. > > I turn it a few more times alternating between a monkey wrench and a > crescent wrench to turn it. Coolant is coming out now, but not a big > gush. Hmm. > > So I work on replacing the coolant reservoir. Not bad, a few hoses were > reluctant to come off, but I got them off without damage eventually. > Installed the new reservoir, not a big deal. > > I move to the right rear to do the caliper. I break the hose fitting > first, and it comes loose without issue (thank you, Kroil!!!) Get the > caliper bolts out no problem. Disconnect the wear indicator connector. > Remove the caliper and unscrew it from the hose. Screw the hose into the > new caliper and mount the caliper back on the backing plate. Tighten > hose. It’s got a bit of tension on it, so I soaked the hard line fitting > where it meets the hose in anticipation for breaking this union and > rotating the hose to relieve some of the tension on it. > > Nope, not going to tempt Fate tonight. > > Get the rear caliper all tightened down and hook up my power bleeder. I > really wanted to bleed the whol >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
Yes, just a stroke or two. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On May 22, 2019 9:06:11 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >That makes sense. But don’t I have to ream the hole before I put the >plug in? > >-D > >> On May 22, 2019, at 9:02 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: >> >> No, leave the pressure in the tire. If it does go low before you get >the >> plug in, you'll have to pump it back up so the tread is stiff enough >that >> you can push the plug in. >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> >> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 8:55 AM Dan--- via Mercedes > >> wrote: >> >>> >>> Should I let most of the pressure out of the tire before I pull the >nail >>> out? >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
I know on the 210 the right rear tire wears a lot faster than the left side. Also I have the same issue with the inner wear on line which has a squeaky support joint on that side I need to replace. Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > So the right rear tire has some really weird wear on it. Inboard part of the > tread is really worn while the outside part of the tread isn’t, maybe 3/16 > variation in tread height. It doesn’t look even, either, like it’s scalloped. > > I don’t see anything amiss with the wheel, like curb rash, that would > indicate it’s bent or damaged. Suspension in this area looks good and > consistent with the other side. No strange noises or handling issues while > driving. > > Not sure what, if anything, I can do at this point short of maybe asking my > tire guy to see if the rim is bent. Any suggestions on possible things I > could do to see what’s up? > > -D > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
If the tire wear is uniform on the offended side, it is unlikely rim is bent, it is more likely there is a suspension rubber allowing the wheel to scrub rather than run true with the other three.. Suggest a in depth look at all suspension components, and a 4 wheel alignment check. As Kaleb has same issue, it suggests to me there is a "weak point" in suspension rubber letting the wheel lay out of square and straight alignment. On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 6:57 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I know on the 210 the right rear tire wears a lot faster than the left > side. Also I have the same issue with the inner wear on line which has a > squeaky support joint on that side I need to replace. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 22, 2019, at 8:39 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > > So the right rear tire has some really weird wear on it. Inboard part of > the tread is really worn while the outside part of the tread isn’t, maybe > 3/16 variation in tread height. It doesn’t look even, either, like it’s > scalloped. > > > > I don’t see anything amiss with the wheel, like curb rash, that would > indicate it’s bent or damaged. Suspension in this area looks good and > consistent with the other side. No strange noises or handling issues while > driving. > > > > Not sure what, if anything, I can do at this point short of maybe asking > my tire guy to see if the rim is bent. Any suggestions on possible things I > could do to see what’s up? > > > > -D > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Don Kneegrow Phoenix 2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 500 Sedan 4D, Savannah, GA, $5, 000
Doesn't look bad but 200k miles and rubber band tires, still kinda high https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/635239746940121/ -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] And Another ML Question...
This car has xenon headlights. A part of this system is two level sensors, one at the front and one at the rear. The sensor is bolted to the vehicle frame and a lever on the sensor, using much like a sway bar link, is connected to the lower control arm at that location. I found the rear sensor disconnected at the right rear sway bar, the clip that held it in place missing. Easy enough to resolve. While working under the car last night, I found the front sensor on the right front suspension with a broken bracket where it attaches to the lower control arm. I removed the connecting link and discovered that the ball joint on the bottom end was completely frozen in place. I soaked it with some Kroil and found when it came loose that the socket was completely destroyed by corrosion and the only thing holding the ball in place was the remains of the rubber boot. The connecting link is about 4”-5” long, with a ball joint at each end with a threaded stud that’s maybe an M6 or M8 thread on it. The part from MB iswait for it...$235.00 Yeah, I don’t think so. So I’m wondering if anyone might know a source for something like this? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
Probably a bad pivot somewhere in the rear suspension. Jack it up and see if there's any slop. If it needs a wheel bearing I've got an extra Timken on hand. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And Another ML Question...
Great idea, Mannfred! The only concern would be if it’s at or near the correct length. The part on this car is a fixed length, there’s no adjustment. I realize the W123 part would be adjustable, but if it’s too long or short it wouldn’t of much use. If I knew which one was right hand thread I would just buy two of them and get some threaded rod to make one the right length. Thanks! -D > On May 22, 2019, at 2:06 PM, MG via Mercedes wrote: > > OK found the pack sooner then I thought. there are two ends one aright hand > thread and one a left. you will need one of each for each of the connector > bars. > the numbers are 123 328 00 63 and 123 328 01 63 my cost $7.24 each. From > those numbers the parts guy should be able to get the number of the whole > assembly with bar and lock nuts. It is on a 83 300TD but should be the same > for any year with the active suspension. > > MG > > Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >> This car has xenon headlights. A part of this system is two level sensors, >> one at the front and one at the rear. The sensor is bolted to the vehicle >> frame and a lever on the sensor, using much like a sway bar link, is >> connected to the lower control arm at that location. >> I found the rear sensor disconnected at the right rear sway bar, the clip >> that held it in place missing. Easy enough to resolve. >> While working under the car last night, I found the front sensor on the >> right front suspension with a broken bracket where it attaches to the lower >> control arm. I removed the connecting link and discovered that the ball >> joint on the bottom end was completely frozen in place. I soaked it with >> some Kroil and found when it came loose that the socket was completely >> destroyed by corrosion and the only thing holding the ball in place was the >> remains of the rubber boot. >> The connecting link is about 4”-5” long, with a ball joint at each end with >> a threaded stud that’s maybe an M6 or M8 thread on it. The part from MB >> iswait for it...$235.00 >> Yeah, I don’t think so. >> So I’m wondering if anyone might know a source for something like this? >> -D >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I bet the mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way to the floor bleeding it (wife) Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance you > damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever press a > brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. > > Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat slowly > with your foot on the pedal? > > Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t cure your > lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. > > -D > >> On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake shoes, >> hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before but were >> OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put everthing >> back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with pushing on >> the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working that great >> mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the back. I then >> ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, I hooked it up >> and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the air was out and >> new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward it just feels like >> it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I am >> sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but I would not >> think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does this seem like I still >> have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad master cylinder? I need >> to get this finished up tomorrow. >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >> https://www.avg.com >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
You still have air in there. If it has abs, be sure there is not a bleeder screw on that pump somewhere. The MC is probably fine. Be sure any calipers are on right side up; if the bleed screws are not on the top then the sides are switched and it will never firm up. You should run quarts of brake fluid through the lines and be sure to close the screws while fluid is still coming out. Push the pedal while pressurizing the system to bleed the MC also. Once the fluid is coming out clean you can just dump it back into the pressure bleeder and run it through again. On Wed, May 22, 2019, 3:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Should have used the pressure bleeder first. That is one of the best labor > saving devices ever invented. > > -D > > > On May 22, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I bet > the mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way to the > floor bleeding it (wife) > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance you > damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever press a > brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. > >> > >> Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat > slowly with your foot on the pedal? > >> > >> Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t > cure your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. > >> > >> -D > >> > >>> On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake > shoes, hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before > but were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put > everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with > pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working > that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the > back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, > I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the > air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward > it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly > to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out > yet but I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does > this seem like I still have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad > master cylinder? I need to get this finished up tomorrow. > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >>> https://www.avg.com > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >>> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Donated CDI sells tomorrow
Could have the black death. On Wed, May 22, 2019, 8:36 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Too bad Dan's got his hands full of ML POS this week... > > https://www.copart.com/lot/55864228 > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
That's what I do, smoosh the cement on the plug material just before I jam it in. From my experience, it helps make the coating on the plug cord material more liquid and "fills the hole better". On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 4:50 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have a tube of vulcanizing cement as well. How should I apply it? Put > some on the plug? > > -D > > > > On May 22, 2019, at 12:56 PM, fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > > > >> Dan wrote: > > > >> Should I let most of the pressure out of the tire before I pull > >> the nail out? > > > > No. It's easier to work on if the tire is stiff from internal air > > pressure. Not letting extra air out is especially valuable if the > > means of re-inflation is a hand pump. *smiles* > > > > Pull the nail out, use the reamer to make the hole big enough and > > to clean the rubber in the hole (I like the one with stepped > > diameters), and put a plug in. > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
The bleed screws on the fronts are on top as are the rear wheel cylinders. I had the bleeder pressured up to 20 per the instructions and when the screws are open at the wheels the fluid sort of just runs out, not under a great deal of pressure shooting out like I am used to when opening it when having the pedal pressed. When I opened the RR screw which was the first one I did, I did get air coming out then clear fluid. When I did the LR next, I never seemed to get any air out. I did not seem to get air out of either of the fronts either, but since the front circuit was not open I would not think it got air in it. It does have ABS but I am not aware of a bleed screw on it. On 5/22/2019 6:35 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: You still have air in there. If it has abs, be sure there is not a bleeder screw on that pump somewhere. The MC is probably fine. Be sure any calipers are on right side up; if the bleed screws are not on the top then the sides are switched and it will never firm up. You should run quarts of brake fluid through the lines and be sure to close the screws while fluid is still coming out. Push the pedal while pressurizing the system to bleed the MC also. Once the fluid is coming out clean you can just dump it back into the pressure bleeder and run it through again. On Wed, May 22, 2019, 3:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Should have used the pressure bleeder first. That is one of the best labor saving devices ever invented. -D On May 22, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I bet the mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way to the floor bleeding it (wife) Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance you damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever press a brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat slowly with your foot on the pedal? Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t cure your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. -D On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake shoes, hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before but were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does this seem like I still have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad master cylinder? I need to get this finished up tomorrow. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
PS I ran about 1.5 qt thru the system, but I guess I need to get some more brake fluid. On 5/22/2019 7:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The bleed screws on the fronts are on top as are the rear wheel cylinders. I had the bleeder pressured up to 20 per the instructions and when the screws are open at the wheels the fluid sort of just runs out, not under a great deal of pressure shooting out like I am used to when opening it when having the pedal pressed. When I opened the RR screw which was the first one I did, I did get air coming out then clear fluid. When I did the LR next, I never seemed to get any air out. I did not seem to get air out of either of the fronts either, but since the front circuit was not open I would not think it got air in it. It does have ABS but I am not aware of a bleed screw on it. On 5/22/2019 6:35 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: You still have air in there. If it has abs, be sure there is not a bleeder screw on that pump somewhere. The MC is probably fine. Be sure any calipers are on right side up; if the bleed screws are not on the top then the sides are switched and it will never firm up. You should run quarts of brake fluid through the lines and be sure to close the screws while fluid is still coming out. Push the pedal while pressurizing the system to bleed the MC also. Once the fluid is coming out clean you can just dump it back into the pressure bleeder and run it through again. On Wed, May 22, 2019, 3:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Should have used the pressure bleeder first. That is one of the best labor saving devices ever invented. -D On May 22, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I bet the mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way to the floor bleeding it (wife) Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance you damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever press a brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat slowly with your foot on the pedal? Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t cure your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. -D On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake shoes, hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before but were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does this seem like I still have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad master cylinder? I need to get this finished up tomorrow. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
Not sure what year you have. These might help. https://youtu.be/jdiOlEKTqrE https://youtu.be/AV9kX_qc0HQ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Donated CDI sells tomorrow
Black death? Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, May 22, 2019, 7:37 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Could have the black death. > > On Wed, May 22, 2019, 8:36 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Too bad Dan's got his hands full of ML POS this week... > > > > https://www.copart.com/lot/55864228 > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
Well, it's not a Mercedes --- cut your losses and sell it as "ran when parked" ... On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:52 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This seems to be getting more complicated that I thought with the ABS > system on this truck. I am not sure if I should just go ahead and > replace the MC or not for good measure. If indeed the ABS system does > need to be bled, it seems like a complicated procedure that requires a > scan tool that I do not have. > > > https://www.justanswer.com/chevy/53ccp-chevy-k1500-96-chevy-k1500-kelsey-hayes-abs-brake-bleeding-i.html > > > https://www.motor.com/magazine-summary/nuts-bolts-kelsey-hayes-4wal-june-1998/ > > On 5/22/2019 7:31 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > > Work the pedal while u flush it. Maybe sucked air in from reservoir to > the > > mc. > > > > On Wed, May 22, 2019, 5:08 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > >> PS I ran about 1.5 qt thru the system, but I guess I need to get some > >> more brake fluid. > >> > >> On 5/22/2019 7:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >>> The bleed screws on the fronts are on top as are the rear wheel > >>> cylinders. I had the bleeder pressured up to 20 per the instructions > >>> and when the screws are open at the wheels the fluid sort of just runs > >>> out, not under a great deal of pressure shooting out like I am used to > >>> when opening it when having the pedal pressed. When I opened the RR > >>> screw which was the first one I did, I did get air coming out then > >>> clear fluid. When I did the LR next, I never seemed to get any air > >>> out. I did not seem to get air out of either of the fronts either, > >>> but since the front circuit was not open I would not think it got air > >>> in it. It does have ABS but I am not aware of a bleed screw on it. > >>> > >>> On 5/22/2019 6:35 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > You still have air in there. If it has abs, be sure there is not a > bleeder > screw on that pump somewhere. The MC is probably fine. Be sure any > calipers > are on right side up; if the bleed screws are not on the top then the > sides > are switched and it will never firm up. You should run quarts of brake > fluid through the lines and be sure to close the screws while fluid is > still coming out. Push the pedal while pressurizing the system to > bleed the > MC also. Once the fluid is coming out clean you can just dump it back > into > the pressure bleeder and run it through again. > > On Wed, May 22, 2019, 3:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > > wrote: > > > Should have used the pressure bleeder first. That is one of the best > > labor > > saving devices ever invented. > > > > -D > > > >> On May 22, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I > >> bet > > the mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way > > to the > > floor bleeding it (wife) > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance > >>> you > > damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever > > press a > > brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. > >>> Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down > somewhat > > slowly with your foot on the pedal? > >>> Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t > > cure your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. > >>> -D > >>> > On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake > > shoes, hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak > > before > > but were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel > > cylinders. I put > > everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding > > with > > pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not > > working > > that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on > > the > > back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived > > today, > > I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until > > all the > > air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. > > Afterward > > it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going > > nearly > > to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way > > out > > yet but I would not think that would cause it
Re: [MBZ] Donated CDI sells tomorrow
Black death on the CDI Mercedes of that vintage is when carbon forms in the injector Wells because the seals for the injectors fail. https://youtu.be/zEp4GjcXy3o Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: May 22, 2019 8:51 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: okd...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Donated CDI sells tomorrow Algae bloom in the fuel tank? On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Black death? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Wed, May 22, 2019, 7:37 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Could have the black death. > > > > On Wed, May 22, 2019, 8:36 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Too bad Dan's got his hands full of ML POS this week... > > > > > > https://www.copart.com/lot/55864228 > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance you damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever press a brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat slowly with your foot on the pedal? Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t cure your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake shoes, > hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before but were > OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put everthing > back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with pushing on > the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working that great > mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the back. I then > ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, I hooked it up > and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the air was out and > new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward it just feels like > it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I am > sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but I would not > think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does this seem like I still > have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad master cylinder? I need to > get this finished up tomorrow. > > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > https://www.avg.com > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
Should have used the pressure bleeder first. That is one of the best labor saving devices ever invented. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I bet the > mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way to the floor > bleeding it (wife) > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance you >> damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever press a >> brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. >> >> Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat slowly >> with your foot on the pedal? >> >> Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t cure >> your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. >> >> -D >> >>> On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>> wrote: >>> >>> I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake shoes, >>> hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before but >>> were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put >>> everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with >>> pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working >>> that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the >>> back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, >>> I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the >>> air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward >>> it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly >>> to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out >>> yet but I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does >>> this seem like I still have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad >>> master cylinder? I need to get this finished up tomorrow. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. >>> https://www.avg.com >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
I have a tube of vulcanizing cement as well. How should I apply it? Put some on the plug? -D > On May 22, 2019, at 12:56 PM, fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Dan wrote: > >> Should I let most of the pressure out of the tire before I pull >> the nail out? > > No. It's easier to work on if the tire is stiff from internal air > pressure. Not letting extra air out is especially valuable if the > means of re-inflation is a hand pump. *smiles* > > Pull the nail out, use the reamer to make the hole big enough and > to clean the rubber in the hole (I like the one with stepped > diameters), and put a plug in. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
I have never had one before, just invested in one. On 5/22/2019 5:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Should have used the pressure bleeder first. That is one of the best labor saving devices ever invented. -D On May 22, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I bet the mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way to the floor bleeding it (wife) Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance you damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever press a brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat slowly with your foot on the pedal? Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t cure your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. -D On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake shoes, hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before but were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does this seem like I still have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad master cylinder? I need to get this finished up tomorrow. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
Work the pedal while u flush it. Maybe sucked air in from reservoir to the mc. On Wed, May 22, 2019, 5:08 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > PS I ran about 1.5 qt thru the system, but I guess I need to get some > more brake fluid. > > On 5/22/2019 7:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > The bleed screws on the fronts are on top as are the rear wheel > > cylinders. I had the bleeder pressured up to 20 per the instructions > > and when the screws are open at the wheels the fluid sort of just runs > > out, not under a great deal of pressure shooting out like I am used to > > when opening it when having the pedal pressed. When I opened the RR > > screw which was the first one I did, I did get air coming out then > > clear fluid. When I did the LR next, I never seemed to get any air > > out. I did not seem to get air out of either of the fronts either, > > but since the front circuit was not open I would not think it got air > > in it. It does have ABS but I am not aware of a bleed screw on it. > > > > On 5/22/2019 6:35 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > >> You still have air in there. If it has abs, be sure there is not a > >> bleeder > >> screw on that pump somewhere. The MC is probably fine. Be sure any > >> calipers > >> are on right side up; if the bleed screws are not on the top then the > >> sides > >> are switched and it will never firm up. You should run quarts of brake > >> fluid through the lines and be sure to close the screws while fluid is > >> still coming out. Push the pedal while pressurizing the system to > >> bleed the > >> MC also. Once the fluid is coming out clean you can just dump it back > >> into > >> the pressure bleeder and run it through again. > >> > >> On Wed, May 22, 2019, 3:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > >> > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Should have used the pressure bleeder first. That is one of the best > >>> labor > >>> saving devices ever invented. > >>> > >>> -D > >>> > On May 22, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I > bet > >>> the mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way > >>> to the > >>> floor bleeding it (wife) > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance > > you > >>> damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever > >>> press a > >>> brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. > > Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat > >>> slowly with your foot on the pedal? > > Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t > >>> cure your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. > > -D > > > >> On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake > >>> shoes, hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak > >>> before > >>> but were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel > >>> cylinders. I put > >>> everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding > >>> with > >>> pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not > >>> working > >>> that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on > >>> the > >>> back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived > >>> today, > >>> I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until > >>> all the > >>> air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. > >>> Afterward > >>> it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going > >>> nearly > >>> to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way > >>> out > >>> yet but I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does > >>> this seem like I still have air in the lines or does this seem like > >>> a bad > >>> master cylinder? I need to get this finished up tomorrow. > >> > >> --- > >> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. > >> https://www.avg.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > >
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
On Wed, 22 May 2019 17:33:26 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > And now that I think about it, the upper control arm on the right front > has been replaced recently. It’s nearly brand new. Maybe that wheel was > on the right front…. > > Hmm. Drive to tire store, get new set of tires, drive directly to alignment shop. Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Donated CDI sells tomorrow
On Wed, 22 May 2019 16:37:01 -0700 Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: > Could have the black death. In relation to automobiles, what is that? Craig > On Wed, May 22, 2019, 8:36 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Too bad Dan's got his hands full of ML POS this week... > > > > https://www.copart.com/lot/55864228 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
This seems to be getting more complicated that I thought with the ABS system on this truck. I am not sure if I should just go ahead and replace the MC or not for good measure. If indeed the ABS system does need to be bled, it seems like a complicated procedure that requires a scan tool that I do not have. https://www.justanswer.com/chevy/53ccp-chevy-k1500-96-chevy-k1500-kelsey-hayes-abs-brake-bleeding-i.html https://www.motor.com/magazine-summary/nuts-bolts-kelsey-hayes-4wal-june-1998/ On 5/22/2019 7:31 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Work the pedal while u flush it. Maybe sucked air in from reservoir to the mc. On Wed, May 22, 2019, 5:08 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: PS I ran about 1.5 qt thru the system, but I guess I need to get some more brake fluid. On 5/22/2019 7:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: The bleed screws on the fronts are on top as are the rear wheel cylinders. I had the bleeder pressured up to 20 per the instructions and when the screws are open at the wheels the fluid sort of just runs out, not under a great deal of pressure shooting out like I am used to when opening it when having the pedal pressed. When I opened the RR screw which was the first one I did, I did get air coming out then clear fluid. When I did the LR next, I never seemed to get any air out. I did not seem to get air out of either of the fronts either, but since the front circuit was not open I would not think it got air in it. It does have ABS but I am not aware of a bleed screw on it. On 5/22/2019 6:35 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: You still have air in there. If it has abs, be sure there is not a bleeder screw on that pump somewhere. The MC is probably fine. Be sure any calipers are on right side up; if the bleed screws are not on the top then the sides are switched and it will never firm up. You should run quarts of brake fluid through the lines and be sure to close the screws while fluid is still coming out. Push the pedal while pressurizing the system to bleed the MC also. Once the fluid is coming out clean you can just dump it back into the pressure bleeder and run it through again. On Wed, May 22, 2019, 3:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Should have used the pressure bleeder first. That is one of the best labor saving devices ever invented. -D On May 22, 2019, at 6:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: Yea it pretty much goes to the floor with very little resistance. I bet the mc was flakey anyway then finished it off pushing it all the way to the floor bleeding it (wife) Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2019, at 5:35 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: If you pumped the brakes all the way to the floor there’s a chance you damaged the cups on the piston in the master cylinder. Never, ever press a brake pedal all the way to the floor when bleeding. Does it just go straight to the floor or does it bleed down somewhat slowly with your foot on the pedal? Adjust those rear drums out before you do anything else. That won’t cure your lousy pedal, but it eliminates a lot of slop in the system. -D On May 22, 2019, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake shoes, hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before but were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does this seem like I still have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad master cylinder? I need to get this finished up tomorrow. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or
Re: [MBZ] Donated CDI sells tomorrow
Algae bloom in the fuel tank? On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:48 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Black death? > > Dwight Giles Jr. > Wickford RI > > On Wed, May 22, 2019, 7:37 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Could have the black death. > > > > On Wed, May 22, 2019, 8:36 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > Too bad Dan's got his hands full of ML POS this week... > > > > > > https://www.copart.com/lot/55864228 > > > > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- OK Don "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." Mark Twain "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence for themselves." WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers* 2013 F150, 18 mpg 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I'm At A Loss Here
“Poor condition “ No sh*t? --FT Sent from iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 5:09 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://m.facebook.com/marketplace/item/397555361092429 > > Rick > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Chebby brakes
I have been working on the brakes on my Suburban. All new brake shoes, hardware, and wheel cylinders on the back. Brakes were weak before but were OK, which I attributed to the leaking rear wheel cylinders. I put everthing back together and started doing the old fashioned bleeding with pushing on the brake pedal and opening bleeder screw. It was not working that great mainly because it is hard to get to the bleeder screws on the back. I then ordered a speedi bleeder pressure bleeder. It arrived today, I hooked it up and pressured it up. I then opened the back until all the air was out and new fluid was coming in. Also did the fronts. Afterward it just feels like it has no brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. Does this seem like I still have air in the lines or does this seem like a bad master cylinder? I need to get this finished up tomorrow. --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And Another ML Question...
Check to see if just the ball/stud part is sold. Last time I replaced a similar link on the SLS control valve, the two ends were about $8 each, but the whole assembly was $75 or so. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On May 22, 2019 11:11:37 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >This car has xenon headlights. A part of this system is two level >sensors, one at the front and one at the rear. The sensor is bolted to >the vehicle frame and a lever on the sensor, using much like a sway bar >link, is connected to the lower control arm at that location. > >I found the rear sensor disconnected at the right rear sway bar, the >clip that held it in place missing. Easy enough to resolve. > >While working under the car last night, I found the front sensor on the >right front suspension with a broken bracket where it attaches to the >lower control arm. I removed the connecting link and discovered that >the ball joint on the bottom end was completely frozen in place. I >soaked it with some Kroil and found when it came loose that the socket >was completely destroyed by corrosion and the only thing holding the >ball in place was the remains of the rubber boot. > >The connecting link is about 4”-5” long, with a ball joint at each end >with a threaded stud that’s maybe an M6 or M8 thread on it. The part >from MB iswait for it...$235.00 > >Yeah, I don’t think so. > >So I’m wondering if anyone might know a source for something like this? > >-D > >___ >http://www.okiebenz.com > >To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
Push and pull on top of the tire, any discernible movement probably means a bad bearing. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On May 22, 2019 1:03:16 PM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >Is there an easy way to determine if there’s a bad wheel bearing? I’ve >looked over the bushings and suspension and didn’t see anything ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
Is there an easy way to determine if there’s a bad wheel bearing? I’ve looked over the bushings and suspension and didn’t see anything worn or amiss. I’ll try and post a picture of the tire tread later today. It’s weird. Thanks! -D > On May 22, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Probably a bad pivot somewhere in the rear suspension. > Jack it up and see if there's any slop. > If it needs a wheel bearing I've got an extra Timken on hand. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And Another ML Question...
OK found the pack sooner then I thought. there are two ends one aright hand thread and one a left. you will need one of each for each of the connector bars. the numbers are 123 328 00 63 and 123 328 01 63 my cost $7.24 each. From those numbers the parts guy should be able to get the number of the whole assembly with bar and lock nuts. It is on a 83 300TD but should be the same for any year with the active suspension. MG Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: This car has xenon headlights. A part of this system is two level sensors, one at the front and one at the rear. The sensor is bolted to the vehicle frame and a lever on the sensor, using much like a sway bar link, is connected to the lower control arm at that location. I found the rear sensor disconnected at the right rear sway bar, the clip that held it in place missing. Easy enough to resolve. While working under the car last night, I found the front sensor on the right front suspension with a broken bracket where it attaches to the lower control arm. I removed the connecting link and discovered that the ball joint on the bottom end was completely frozen in place. I soaked it with some Kroil and found when it came loose that the socket was completely destroyed by corrosion and the only thing holding the ball in place was the remains of the rubber boot. The connecting link is about 4”-5” long, with a ball joint at each end with a threaded stud that’s maybe an M6 or M8 thread on it. The part from MB iswait for it...$235.00 Yeah, I don’t think so. So I’m wondering if anyone might know a source for something like this? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1975 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel W115 CRACK!!!
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Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
Alignment machine Sent from my iPhone > On May 22, 2019, at 12:03 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > Is there an easy way to determine if there’s a bad wheel bearing? I’ve looked > over the bushings and suspension and didn’t see anything worn or amiss. > > I’ll try and post a picture of the tire tread later today. It’s weird. > > Thanks! > > -D > >> On May 22, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> Probably a bad pivot somewhere in the rear suspension. >> Jack it up and see if there's any slop. >> If it needs a wheel bearing I've got an extra Timken on hand. >> >> Mitch. >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse
On Wed, 22 May 2019 06:36:27 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > Getting warm. No aux battery, that’s the main (only) one. Coolant tank > is full of plain water, which is why you don’t see anything. > > What about the AC condenser? Last night I did say, I see some little grey oddities on the two vertical pipes on the A/C condenser ... Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires
> Dan wrote: > Should I let most of the pressure out of the tire before I pull > the nail out? No. It's easier to work on if the tire is stiff from internal air pressure. Not letting extra air out is especially valuable if the means of re-inflation is a hand pump. *smiles* Pull the nail out, use the reamer to make the hole big enough and to clean the rubber in the hole (I like the one with stepped diameters), and put a plug in. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
Good point, Randy. As Kaleb suggested, I figured I would pop for an alignment and see what came out of it. I know the tire place will want to sell me a set of tires, but I can do an end run and avoid engaging with them on the sale. The affected tire is bad enough I’ll have to replace it soon. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > check front too > they may have moved tires around > > >> On 22/05/2019 12:03 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >> Is there an easy way to determine if there’s a bad wheel bearing? I’ve >> looked over the bushings and suspension and didn’t see anything worn or >> amiss. >> >> I’ll try and post a picture of the tire tread later today. It’s weird. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -D >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] And Another ML Question...
That sounds like the same piece that is used on the w123 TD for the rear leveling of the suspension. The ends are available for like around $5-$8 if I remember the last ones I bought. Or you can get the complete piece with the thread part for around $40 or so. I'll try to find the number. MG Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: This car has xenon headlights. A part of this system is two level sensors, one at the front and one at the rear. The sensor is bolted to the vehicle frame and a lever on the sensor, using much like a sway bar link, is connected to the lower control arm at that location. I found the rear sensor disconnected at the right rear sway bar, the clip that held it in place missing. Easy enough to resolve. While working under the car last night, I found the front sensor on the right front suspension with a broken bracket where it attaches to the lower control arm. I removed the connecting link and discovered that the ball joint on the bottom end was completely frozen in place. I soaked it with some Kroil and found when it came loose that the socket was completely destroyed by corrosion and the only thing holding the ball in place was the remains of the rubber boot. The connecting link is about 4”-5” long, with a ball joint at each end with a threaded stud that’s maybe an M6 or M8 thread on it. The part from MB iswait for it...$235.00 Yeah, I don’t think so. So I’m wondering if anyone might know a source for something like this? -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Donated CDI sells tomorrow
Too bad Dan's got his hands full of ML POS this week... https://www.copart.com/lot/55864228 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
check front too they may have moved tires around On 22/05/2019 12:03 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: Is there an easy way to determine if there’s a bad wheel bearing? I’ve looked over the bushings and suspension and didn’t see anything worn or amiss. I’ll try and post a picture of the tire tread later today. It’s weird. Thanks! -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
I found mine about 200 miles after the noise started. By then I had 1/4" or more of axial free play at the rim when I put it on a hoist. No odd tire wear, just noise at times, which I think was the disk rubbing the caliper carrier. Mitch. > On May 22, 2019 at 1:03 PM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > > > Is there an easy way to determine if there’s a bad wheel bearing? I’ve looked > over the bushings and suspension and didn’t see anything worn or amiss. > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insco Update 1995 E300
If you don't buy it back, it'll be another copart car. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: May 22, 2019 9:13 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com Subject: [MBZ] Insco Update 1995 E300 After a week at the Geico / Repair shop, I called the adjuster to see what's going on. She says they are having a hard time finding a source of parts for my old car. Damage is to the fender, turn signal, front bumper, and the fender liner. Unsure of the availability of parts and what the cost will be, she says they may end up totaling the car if the cost of the parts is too high. Wow. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1975 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel W115 CRACK!!!
If a running diesel benz is going to fetch that cash, I should invest the thousand bux and get the SD back running clay monroe > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm > looking for didn't fall out. > On May 22, 2019, at 11:13 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/d/kelso-1975-mercedes-benz-300d-diesel/6894701959.html > clay monroe > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm > looking for didn't fall out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
> Kaleb wrote: > I had the bleeder pressured up to 20 per the instructions and > when the screws are open at the wheels the fluid sort of just > runs out, not under a great deal of pressure shooting out like I > am used to when opening it when having the pedal pressed. The pedal develops a _lot_ more than 20 PSI!! So maybe it's just that. Try it on another car to compare. Maybe one without ABS? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
I will have to pump it and see what it does Sent from my iPhone On May 22, 2019, at 10:02 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: >> Kaleb wrote: > >> ... it just feels like it has no >> brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I >> am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but >> I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. > > If there is not resistance for the slave cylinders to push > against, much of the pressure of the master cylinder will not do > much. If that is the case, there should be front brakes - but the > pedal will not feel very stiff. > > Does the pedal come up when if you pump it? That points to > "loose" slaves and not air. > > Does the pedal sink under steady pressure? That is a leak - most > often past the piston seals in the master cylinder. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] speaking of crack and meth
ad says "$2,500" OBO. Apparently,, did not "run when parked". On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 11:51 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Posted in the FB W123 group > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/410319413152993/ > > 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300cd > $6,500 > 76135 > > I have a 1982 Mercedes 300CD. 190,000+ mileage. This is a two door coup > turbo diesel. Does not run. Make offer > > -- > --FT > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Insco Update 1995 E300
After a week at the Geico / Repair shop, I called the adjuster to see what's going on. She says they are having a hard time finding a source of parts for my old car. Damage is to the fender, turn signal, front bumper, and the fender liner. Unsure of the availability of parts and what the cost will be, she says they may end up totaling the car if the cost of the parts is too high. Wow. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
That 2nd video helps. I will do that procedure tomorrow and see what happens. On 5/22/2019 7:17 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: Not sure what year you have. These might help. https://youtu.be/jdiOlEKTqrE https://youtu.be/AV9kX_qc0HQ Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. https://www.avg.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Insco Update 1995 E300
See if you are able to source the parts for your own self and if the shop will accept them for install. Seems the insurance droid is mentally challenged. I talked to the shop when the SD got hit. Amica/Liberty mutual were head up the rectum about the work, but the shop was willing to work with me if I supplied parts and did not whine about needing new things installed. clay monroe > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm > looking for didn't fall out. > On May 22, 2019, at 6:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > After a week at the Geico / Repair shop, I called the adjuster to see > what's going on. She says they are having a hard time finding a source of > parts for my old car. Damage is to the fender, turn signal, front bumper, > and the fender liner. > > Unsure of the availability of parts and what the cost will be, she says > they may end up totaling the car if the cost of the parts is too high. > > Wow. > - > Max > Charleston SC > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > clay monroe > I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm > looking for didn't fall out. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes
> Kaleb wrote: > ... it just feels like it has no > brakes at all, pedal seems to be going nearly to the floor. I > am sure the rear drums are not adjusted all the way out yet but > I would not think that would cause it to go to the floor. If there is not resistance for the slave cylinders to push against, much of the pressure of the master cylinder will not do much. If that is the case, there should be front brakes - but the pedal will not feel very stiff. Does the pedal come up when if you pump it? That points to "loose" slaves and not air. Does the pedal sink under steady pressure? That is a leak - most often past the piston seals in the master cylinder. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] I'm At A Loss Here
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[MBZ] speaking of crack and meth
Posted in the FB W123 group https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/410319413152993/ 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300cd $6,500 76135 I have a 1982 Mercedes 300CD. 190,000+ mileage. This is a two door coup turbo diesel. Does not run. Make offer -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Next ML Question
And now that I think about it, the upper control arm on the right front has been replaced recently. It’s nearly brand new. Maybe that wheel was on the right front…. Hmm. -D > On May 22, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > > > check front too > they may have moved tires around > > > On 22/05/2019 12:03 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >> Is there an easy way to determine if there’s a bad wheel bearing? I’ve >> looked over the bushings and suspension and didn’t see anything worn or >> amiss. >> >> I’ll try and post a picture of the tire tread later today. It’s weird. >> >> Thanks! >> >> -D >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: 1975 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel W115 CRACK!!!
WOW! What would it take to bring this up to POS daily driver status??? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Kraly via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 11:13 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kevin Kraly Subject: [MBZ] 1975 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel W115 CRACK!!! https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/d/kelso-1975-mercedes-benz-300d-diesel/6894701959.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: 1975 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel W115 CRACK!!!
That 4 doesn't belong there. Or maybe the 0. --FT On 5/22/19 2:33 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: WOW! What would it take to bring this up to POS daily driver status??? Greg -Original Message- From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Kraly via Mercedes Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 11:13 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Kevin Kraly Subject: [MBZ] 1975 Mercedes Benz 300D Diesel W115 CRACK!!! https://portland.craigslist.org/clk/cto/d/kelso-1975-mercedes-benz-300d-diesel/6894701959.html Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
