[meteorite-list] Meteorite ID Card Format
Hi List- It has always been very important to me to keep ID cards with each meteorite in my collection. Some of the meteorites I have were not provided with a card from the supplier. I have to admit- I am not very computer literate. I've tried to make a format to use repeatedly but they have not had a quality look to them that I would like in my collection. Would someone on the list be willing to share a generic format that would work in either Microsoft Word Processor or Word 2007? I would sure appreciate it if you share with me a file to use off list. Please do not send me one specific to your business as I would not want to duplicate that. Thank you very much. Have a good weekend. Mike __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel — good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which provides surface context for those incredible narrow-angle shots, has largely gone unheralded … until now. This past week the team released a new mosaic of the Moon's near side taken entirely with wide-angle frames. Acquired during a two-week period in December, the 1,300 black-and-white frames create a full-disk mosaic measuring 24,000 pixels across. Gulp! As the Moon rotated under LRO's orbit, explains LROC team leader Mark Robinson (Arizona State University), the ground track progressed from east to west (right to left in this mosaic). The image run was timed to keep the Sun high up in the lunar sky but not straight overhead (its altitude varied from 69° to 82°). This created enough shadowing to define crater rims and other topography crisply, unlike the shadow-free view that we see during a full Moon. The combined image shows slight banding where the 1,024-pixel-wide swaths were stitched together. A close-up of Rupes Recta (usually called the Straight Wall) from the new LROC mosaic of the lunar nearside. Located near the eastern edge of Mare Nubium, this steep-faced scarp is about 70 miles (114 km) long. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.Weighing in at just 2 pounds (0.9 kg), LROC's wide-angle camera is small enough to fit in your hand. It features an aperture only 1.2 mm across and a focal length of just 6 mm (for visible-light work). Yet from LRO's very low orbit, currently only 20 miles (30 km) up, this mighty mite can pick out surface details as small as 250 feet (75 m). Click here to view the specifications for LROC's wide- and narrow-angle cameras. The image looks dark because Robinson and his team have kept the Moon as it really is: dark. On average, the lunar surface reflects only about 12% of the sunlight that strikes it. So a full Moon really isn't dazzlingly bright — it only looks that way to our eyes because of the contrast with the black sky around it. If your computer's up to it, you can download the full half-gigabyte mosaic here. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite ID Card Format
Hi Mike, I have used a Business card program that works great. My favorite is Business card composer 5. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com -Original Message- From: Michael Groetz lt;mpg4...@gmail.comgt; To: Meteorite List lt;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comgt; Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2011 2:20 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite ID Card Format Hi List- It has always been very important to me to keep ID cards with eachmeteorite in my collection. Some of the meteorites I have were notprovided with a card from the supplier. I have to admit- I am not very computer literate. I've tried tomake a format to use repeatedly but they have not had a quality lookto them that I would like in my collection. Would someone on the list be willing to share a generic format thatwould work in either Microsoft Word Processor or Word 2007? I wouldsure appreciate it if you share with me a file to use off list. Pleasedo not send me one specific to your business as I would not want toduplicate that. Thank you very much. Have a good weekend.Mike__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite ID Card Format
Is that a free download?? Stuart wahlpe...@aol.com wrote: Hi Mike, I have used a Business card program that works great. My favorite is Business card composer 5. Sonny www.nevadameteorites.com -Original Message- From: Michael Groetz mpg4...@gmail.com To: Meteorite List meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, Mar 4, 2011 2:20 am Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite ID Card Format Hi List- It has always been very important to me to keep ID cards with eachmeteorite in my collection. Some of the meteorites I have were notprovided with a card from the supplier. I have to admit- I am not very computer literate. I've tried tomake a format to use repeatedly but they have not had a quality lookto them that I would like in my collection. Would someone on the list be willing to share a generic format thatwould work in either Microsoft Word Processor or Word 2007? I wouldsure appreciate it if you share with me a file to use off list. Pleasedo not send me one specific to your business as I would not want toduplicate that. Thank you very much. Have a good weekend.Mike__Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.htmlMeteorite-list mailing listMeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comhttp://six.pairlist.net/mailman/li stinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel — good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which provides surface context for those incredible narrow-angle shots, has largely gone unheralded … until now. This past week the team released a new mosaic of the Moon's near side taken entirely with wide-angle frames. Acquired during a two-week period in December, the 1,300 black-and-white frames create a full-disk mosaic measuring 24,000 pixels across. Gulp! As the Moon rotated under LRO's orbit, explains LROC team leader Mark Robinson (Arizona State University), the ground track progressed from east to west (right to left in this mosaic). The image run was timed to keep the Sun high up in the lunar sky but not straight overhead (its altitude varied from 69° to 82°). This created enough shadowing to define crater rims and other topography crisply, unlike the shadow-free view that we see during a full Moon. The combined image shows slight banding where the 1,024-pixel-wide swaths were stitched together. A close-up of Rupes Recta (usually called the Straight Wall) from the new LROC mosaic of the lunar nearside. Located near the eastern edge of Mare Nubium, this steep-faced scarp is about 70 miles (114 km) long. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.Weighing in at just 2 pounds (0.9 kg), LROC's wide-angle camera is small enough to fit in your hand. It features an aperture only 1.2 mm across and a focal length of just 6 mm (for visible-light work). Yet from LRO's very low orbit, currently only 20 miles (30 km) up, this mighty mite can pick out surface details as small as 250 feet (75 m). Click here to view the specifications for LROC's wide- and narrow-angle cameras. The image looks dark because Robinson and his team have kept the Moon as it really is: dark. On average, the lunar surface reflects only about 12% of the sunlight that strikes it. So a full Moon really isn't dazzlingly bright — it only looks that way to our eyes because of the contrast with the black sky around it. If your computer's up to it, you can download the full half-gigabyte mosaic here. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template
In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Gary's gorgeous NWA 6575 diogenite
Mahalo nui Bernd and Greg, for your glowing comments on my NWA 6575 diogenite. Perhaps because of your comments (and of course their inherent beauty), the slices are sold out! But thin sections will be produced and made available in the future. Metlisters, stay tuned or give me a message if you'd like to be placed on a pre-release list. Speaking of Johnstown-like diogenites, I agree NWA 4302 is absolutely stunning! And I have dreams of finding a stone like Greg's NWA 5405 for sure! I also had a lookalike in NWA 6421 (http://tinyurl.com/4p2sg63), and acquired a 30.26g endcut of Svend Buhl's NWA 5597 (http://tinyurl.com/4v9z7rk). All possessing similar minerology and texture. Aren't meteorites intriguing? Mahalo nui loa to all purchasers of NWA 6575, your specimens are being shipped out today and you will not be disappointed. For those who missed out on this round, don't distress as 2011 is shaping up to be a great year for meteorites! gary On Mar 3, 2011, at 3:53 PM, Greg Hupe wrote: Hi Bernd and List, I agree, Gary's diogenite is beautiful! You mentioned NWA 4302, another Johnstown-like diogenite I sold in 2006, unfortunately is only had a TKW of 46.2 grams in two pieces and the few specimens available sold out immediately at the time. Last April while I was in the field, I asked Adam to post to the List for me a couple photos to another Johnstown-like diogenite I purchased in Morocco in 2009 that weighed 323 grams in two fragments. I sold the uncut larger piece to a collector, sorry folks! Here is the post with photo links to the 323g stone, my pictures do not do it justice: [meteorite-list] NWA 5405 Images - Check Them Out Adam Hupe Wed, 07 Apr 2010 11:37:23 -0700 Dear List, My brother, Greg wanted me to post these images of NWA 5405, a spectacular Johnstown-like Diogenite. NWA 5405 Links to images: 1) http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA5405a.jpg 2) http://themeteoritesite.com/NWA5405b.jpg It would appear the pieces of this diogenite puzzle/fall are finally making it to the collector market. If you do not have one yet and want a fresh diogenite, don't wait! I am sure Gary's pieces won't last long!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Bernd V. Pauli Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 8:12 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Gary's gorgeous NWA 6575 diogenite Gary wrote: I am very pleased to announce NWA 6575, ... a fresh specimen with cataclastic texture...simply delicious with beautiful green hypersthene crystals and metallic inclusions... Hi All, The only diogenite in my collection that can compete with this NWA beauty when it comes to freshness and translucent, green hypersthene crystals, is my NWA 4302 diogenite from the Hupés. Both NWA 4302 and NWA 6575 look a lot like Johnstown,...only much fresher! Can hardly wait for my slice to arrive here and I'm surely looking forward to a thin section of NWA 6575, which will make this a perfect combo! Cheers, Bernd __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list Gary Fujihara Big Kahuna Meteorites (IMCA#1693) 105 Puhili Place, Hilo, Hawai'i 96720 http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/ http://shop.ebay.com/fujmon/m.html (808) 640-9161 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Web page
Hi All, I have recently made a few changes to my web page. You can check out the changes here. Thanks, Sonny http://www.nevadameteorites.com/nevadameteorites/Ralph_Sonny_Clary_Meteorite_Hunter.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Pristine Benguerir
Hello List... I just added some beautiful Benguerir slices to my eBay page. Please feel free to make offers. I also have a few other slices fragments that aren't listed yet, so just let me know what you need. http://shop.ebay.com/fallingfusion/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Thank you for your consideration. Regards, Ryan ' __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
It took me less than 10 minutes and you will be limited by how fast your Internet provider download rate is (not what they claim). Great image. Larry I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel â good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which provides surface context for those incredible narrow-angle shots, has largely gone unheralded ⦠until now. This past week the team released a new mosaic of the Moon's near side taken entirely with wide-angle frames. Acquired during a two-week period in December, the 1,300 black-and-white frames create a full-disk mosaic measuring 24,000 pixels across. Gulp! As the Moon rotated under LRO's orbit, explains LROC team leader Mark Robinson (Arizona State University), the ground track progressed from east to west (right to left in this mosaic). The image run was timed to keep the Sun high up in the lunar sky but not straight overhead (its altitude varied from 69° to 82°). This created enough shadowing to define crater rims and other topography crisply, unlike the shadow-free view that we see during a full Moon. The combined image shows slight banding where the 1,024-pixel-wide swaths were stitched together. A close-up of Rupes Recta (usually called the Straight Wall) from the new LROC mosaic of the lunar nearside. Located near the eastern edge of Mare Nubium, this steep-faced scarp is about 70 miles (114 km) long. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.Weighing in at just 2 pounds (0.9 kg), LROC's wide-angle camera is small enough to fit in your hand. It features an aperture only 1.2 mm across and a focal length of just 6 mm (for visible-light work). Yet from LRO's very low orbit, currently only 20 miles (30 km) up, this mighty mite can pick out surface details as small as 250 feet (75 m). Click here to view the specifications for LROC's wide- and narrow-angle cameras. The image looks dark because Robinson and his team have kept the Moon as it really is: dark. On average, the lunar surface reflects only about 12% of the sunlight that strikes it. So a full Moon really isn't dazzlingly bright â it only looks that way to our eyes because of the contrast with the black sky around it. If your computer's up to it, you can download the full half-gigabyte mosaic here. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD: Ebay - Crumlin, La Primitiva, Nakhla, New Orleans, Vigarano, NWA 859 Taza, NWA 4379, NWA 4522, NWA 4647, NWA 6047
Dear list members, A few rare small meteorite slices and fragments next to LDG Gem quality and other stones are available on E-Bay ending in about 2 days (Sunday morning PDT). No reserve, low starting bid, some still at USD 1.99 ! Please have a look if interested. http://stores.ebay.com/SAHARAGEMS-DESERT-STONES-and-more?_rdc=1 Thanks and happy weekend. Thomas www.saharagems.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD - ebay: Stunning Collection Pieces for Sale: HAINAUT, CHANTONNAY, WOLD COTTAGE, BARBOTAN, APPLEY BRIDGE...and many more!
Hello All, on ebay I'm selling a few more of my collection crown jewels. They are ending in about two days. Please have a look: http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg= - HAINAUT, France, 1.7 g, fell on the borderline of France and Belgium! Comes with two original contemporary publications describing and analyzing the fall! - HOBA, Namibia, found 1920, shale piece, 8.787 g with copies of BM labels! - CHANTONNAY, France, fell 1812, 3.974 g with copy of old label! - WOLD COTTAGE, England, fell 1795(!), 0.339 g - APPLEY BRIDGE, England, fell 1914, 3.475 g - STÄLLDALEN, Sweden, fell 1876, 3.3 g - BARBOTAN, France, fell 1790(!), 0.602 g - PARNALLEE, India, fell 1857, 3.7 g - STANNERN, Czech Republic, fell 1808, 0.966 g - MOUNT JOY, PA, USA, IIB iron, 1.1 g with copy of old label! - UTZENSTORF, Switzerland, fell 1928 - LINUM, Germany, fell 1854, 2.358(!) g - ALH76009, Antarctica(!), 8.5(!) g - SHALKA, India, fell 1850, 0.939 g - JELICA, Serbia, fell 1889, 0.9 g with original label - MAUERKIRCHEN, Austria, fell 1768(!), 0.960 g - NWA 3081 (CK5/6), 4.3 g stunning slice! ...and NWA 6292 (BRA), NWA 4229 (H7), NWA 6049 (LL6 br.), NWA 5996 (URE). http://shop.ebay.com/pema9/m.html?_nkw=_armrs=1_from=_ipg= Thank you, Peter Peter Marmet - IMCA #2747 Bern, Switzerland http://www.marmet-meteorites.com/ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT, Einstein, Jewishness, Christianity, Deism, G*d, and all that - :p)
Hi all - Would any of you care to use your profound insights to try and explain Chicago Steve's often times bizarre behaviors? Are they free will? Are they predetermined? Are they signs that G*d is punishing Steve? Are they signs that G*d is punishing us? Are they Satan at work? If any of the NWA folks want to chime in with Moslem views on Chicago Steve's antics, that's fine as well. good hunting, everyone E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT, Einstein, Jewishness, Christianity, Deism, G*d, and all that - :p)
- Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT, Einstein, Jewishness, Christianity, Deism,G*d, and all that - :p) Hi all - Would any of you care to use your profound insights to try and explain Chicago Steve's often times bizarre behaviors? Are they free will? Are they predetermined? Are they signs that G*d is punishing Steve? Are they signs that G*d is punishing us? Are they Satan at work? If any of the NWA folks want to chime in with Moslem views on Chicago Steve's antics, that's fine as well. good hunting, everyone E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 5926 (20110304) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 5926 (20110304) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] OT, Einstein, Jewishness, Christianity, Deism, G*d, and all that - :p)
Hi E.P., no signs at all. Steve Arnold, you, me: it's simply what it is. Different, yes, but not as differerent in general as we might think. Best regards, Matthias - Original Message - From: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT, Einstein, Jewishness, Christianity, Deism,G*d, and all that - :p) Hi all - Would any of you care to use your profound insights to try and explain Chicago Steve's often times bizarre behaviors? Are they free will? Are they predetermined? Are they signs that G*d is punishing Steve? Are they signs that G*d is punishing us? Are they Satan at work? If any of the NWA folks want to chime in with Moslem views on Chicago Steve's antics, that's fine as well. good hunting, everyone E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 5926 (20110304) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Hinweis von ESET Smart Security, Signaturdatenbank-Version 5926 (20110304) __ E-Mail wurde geprüft mit ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Chitown Steve - WAS OT, Einstein, Jewishness, Christianity, Deism, G*d, and all that - :p)
for the sake of all things... can people here please just leave Steve alone. Yes, I am newer then some of you, yes I may not have seen it all but for people to constantly bash or take shots at the man is just plain WRONG! and is also against list rules... In my 4 years (wow, how time passes) Steve has been very polite and kind to me. I have gotten freebies from him, and not once has he EVER asked for anything in return. Is he different? yes. but different does not mean bad. I would like to think we all have a little Chicago Steve in us, just as he has a little of us in him. We all have feelings and to constantly bash him is below the level we should be on and only reflects a look of grade school drama... what next? are we going to pick on him for not wearing a starter jacket and the latest Air Jordan's? PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ALL THIS CHICAGO STEVE BASHING AND REMEMBER WHAT WE LEARNED IN SCHOOL... IF YOU DONT HAVE NOTHING NICE TO SAY, SOMETIMES ITS BEST TO JUST BE QUIET... If some of you must or feel the need to bash steve, please do it off list - this is not what the list is for. Hope everyone has a good day. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 3/4/11, E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com wrote: From: E.P. Grondine epgrond...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT, Einstein, Jewishness, Christianity, Deism, G*d, and all that - :p) To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 2:06 PM Hi all - Would any of you care to use your profound insights to try and explain Chicago Steve's often times bizarre behaviors? Are they free will? Are they predetermined? Are they signs that G*d is punishing Steve? Are they signs that G*d is punishing us? Are they Satan at work? If any of the NWA folks want to chime in with Moslem views on Chicago Steve's antics, that's fine as well. good hunting, everyone E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas E.P. Grondine Man and Impact in the Americas __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
As a passionate downloader with archives of downloaded material that exceed a total of three terabytes (but growing every day), I can tell you that speed at which you receive data is affected by a variety of factors of which ISP willingness is only one. I know the maximum rate my provider can and does supply me with, having done so consistently when allowed by the source, a hair under 4 Megabit/s (636 Kb/s). This download would take 14.7 minutes at that rate, but it's going to take (still downloading) about 48 minutes. Servers always parcel out downloads in a way to optimize their own performance to the demand and the nature of the requestor. For example, if I were the server at asu.edu, I would see to it that a requestor at lpl.arizona.edu got it as fast as he wanted it, like say, 1000 Kb/s or so. They correctly appraised that I was only worth 193 Kb/s... and they were right! And Pete, you can (or should be able to) use the computer for all other tasks (except a competing giant download). You don't have to suddenly become a single-tasker when downloading. Beautiful, isn't she? Those who don't want a giant download and would be satisfied with a good-sized jpeg under one Mb, can find it at: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110303.html Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download It took me less than 10 minutes and you will be limited by how fast your Internet provider download rate is (not what they claim). Great image. Larry I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel â? good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which provides surface context for those incredible narrow-angle shots, has largely gone unheralded â?¦ until now. This past week the team released a new mosaic of the Moon's near side taken entirely with wide-angle frames. Acquired during a two-week period in December, the 1,300 black-and-white frames create a full-disk mosaic measuring 24,000 pixels across. Gulp! As the Moon rotated under LRO's orbit, explains LROC team leader Mark Robinson (Arizona State University), the ground track progressed from east to west (right to left in this mosaic). The image run was timed to keep the Sun high up in the lunar sky but not straight overhead (its altitude varied from 69° to 82°). This created enough shadowing to define crater rims and other topography crisply, unlike the shadow-free view that we see during a full Moon. The combined image shows slight banding where the 1,024-pixel-wide swaths were stitched together. A close-up of Rupes Recta (usually called the Straight Wall) from the new LROC mosaic of the lunar nearside. Located near the eastern edge of Mare Nubium, this steep-faced scarp is about 70 miles (114 km) long. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.Weighing in at just 2 pounds (0.9 kg), LROC's wide-angle camera is small enough to fit in your hand. It features an aperture only 1.2 mm across and a focal length of just 6 mm (for visible-light work). Yet from LRO's very low orbit, currently only 20 miles (30 km) up, this mighty mite can pick out surface details as small as 250 feet (75 m). Click here to view the specifications for LROC's wide- and narrow-angle cameras. The image looks dark because Robinson and his team have kept the Moon as it really is: dark. On average, the lunar surface reflects only about 12% of the sunlight that strikes it. So a full Moon really isn't dazzlingly bright â? it only looks that way to our eyes because of the contrast with the black sky around it. If your computer's up to it, you can download the
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template
Thanks Mike, that is awesome!! Stuart Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template
I have been saying for a long time that we need to get a basic ID design for us to use - more IMCA members then anything, but I think a standard ID would be a great thing. I will take pics of a few of mine and share them also. Thanks for sharing yours Mike! Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: From: Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net Subject: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 11:23 AM In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hello Rob, Great question. You should always provide your own card (even if the weight changes). The idea is that if everyone did this, and passed original dealer/collector cards along, you could establish a *chain-of-custody*. Chain-of-custody is an important component of provenance. As pieces continue to be sectioned down or change hands, provenance is more important than ever. With the influx of new collectors, we all need to set higher standards so that this precious information gets passed down. Cheers, Mike Bandli Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 -Original Message- From: Rob Lenssen [mailto:rlens...@planet.nl] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:12 PM To: 'Mike Bandli'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list]Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Mike and List, Concerning Meteorite-Cards... I like to have my stone-type meteorite slices sanded at one side and polished at the other. After buying slices, they typically arrive as-cut. So I have to sand and polish them myself. As you can guess, afterwards the mass doesnt correspond to the mass on the cards anymore. Assume I would choose to sell a slice. Should I stripe the original mass, and put a new figure (plus my name?) on the original card (as I would choose to do), or should I make my own new card, or choose even a different option? What would be the best choice? Wonder if we could work out a preferred approach here. All the best, Rob Lenssen AsteroidChipping.com -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Mike Bandli Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 17:24 Aan: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi Mike and List, Concerning Meteorite-Cards... I like to have my stone-type meteorite slices sanded at one side and polished at the other. After buying slices, they typically arrive as-cut. So I have to sand and polish them myself. As you can guess, afterwards the mass doesnt correspond to the mass on the cards anymore. Assume I would choose to sell a slice. Should I stripe the original mass, and put a new figure (plus my name?) on the original card (as I would choose to do), or should I make my own new card, or choose even a different option? What would be the best choice? Wonder if we could work out a preferred approach here. All the best, Rob Lenssen AsteroidChipping.com -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Mike Bandli Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 17:24 Aan: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less not being an IMCA member or the original finder. Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you received it from and forward it when you sell it. Stuart McD Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Hello Rob, Great question. You should always provide your own card (even if the weight changes). The idea is that if everyone did this, and passed original dealer/collector cards along, you could establish a *chain-of-custody*. Chain-of-custody is an important component of provenance. As pieces continue to be sectioned down or change hands, provenance is more important than ever. With the influx of new collectors, we all need to set higher standards so that this precious information gets passed down. Cheers, Mike Bandli Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 -Original Message- From: Rob Lenssen [mailto:rlens...@planet.nl] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:12 PM To: 'Mike Bandli'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list]Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Mike and List, Concerning Meteorite-Cards... I like to have my stone-type meteorite slices sanded at one side and polished at the other. After buying slices, they typically arrive as-cut. So I have to sand and polish them myself. As you can guess, afterwards the mass doesnt correspond to the mass on the cards anymore. Assume I would choose to sell a slice. Should I stripe the original mass, and put a new figure (plus my name?) on the original card (as I would choose to do), or should I make my own new card, or choose even a different option? What would be the best choice? Wonder if we could work out a preferred approach here. All the best, Rob Lenssen AsteroidChipping.com -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Mike Bandli Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 17:24 Aan: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hello Mike, Thanks for the answer. But would you mark the changed mass on the original card, or leave it as is, or...? I myself think just passing it down to the next owner would enhance the risk of misplacing a label. The actual mass doesn't correspond to the mass on the label anymore. All the best, Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Mike Bandli [mailto:fuzzf...@comcast.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 22:22 Aan: 'Rob Lenssen'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hello Rob, Great question. You should always provide your own card (even if the weight changes). The idea is that if everyone did this, and passed original dealer/collector cards along, you could establish a *chain-of-custody*. Chain-of-custody is an important component of provenance. As pieces continue to be sectioned down or change hands, provenance is more important than ever. With the influx of new collectors, we all need to set higher standards so that this precious information gets passed down. Cheers, Mike Bandli Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 -Original Message- From: Rob Lenssen [mailto:rlens...@planet.nl] Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:12 PM To: 'Mike Bandli'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list]Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Mike and List, Concerning Meteorite-Cards... I like to have my stone-type meteorite slices sanded at one side and polished at the other. After buying slices, they typically arrive as-cut. So I have to sand and polish them myself. As you can guess, afterwards the mass doesnt correspond to the mass on the cards anymore. Assume I would choose to sell a slice. Should I stripe the original mass, and put a new figure (plus my name?) on the original card (as I would choose to do), or should I make my own new card, or choose even a different option? What would be the best choice? Wonder if we could work out a preferred approach here. All the best, Rob Lenssen AsteroidChipping.com -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Mike Bandli Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 17:24 Aan: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
In response to Stuart Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:33 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less not being an IMCA member or the original finder. Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you received it from and forward it when you sell it. Stuart McD __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
I agree. Being an IMCA member is a nice thing... but its not the end all be all or a reason not to make your own if your not a member... Bob Haag and Mike Farmer (Hope your home soon!) are not members, but have ID cards also. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net wrote: From: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net, 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 4:37 PM In response to Stuart Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:33 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less not being an IMCA member or the original finder. Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you received it from and forward it when you sell it. Stuart McD __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi Guy's, Thanks for the answers, but - except Stuart's - they are not answering the question how to deal with changing mass. I think everybody will agree that the original card must stay with the piece. I make my own cards only for stones I bought in Morocco and had classified myself. Best, Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rob Wesel [mailto:nakhla...@comcast.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 22:38 Aan: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli; 'Rob Lenssen' Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass In response to Stuart Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:33 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less not being an IMCA member or the original finder. Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you received it from and forward it when you sell it. Stuart McD __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Nor I Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: m...@mhmeteorites.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:44 PM To: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl; Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass I am not a member either. Matt Morgan Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Greg Catterton star_wars_collec...@yahoo.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 13:43:03 To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Rob Lenssen'rlens...@planet.nl; Rob Weselnakhla...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass I agree. Being an IMCA member is a nice thing... but its not the end all be all or a reason not to make your own if your not a member... Bob Haag and Mike Farmer (Hope your home soon!) are not members, but have ID cards also. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net wrote: From: Rob Wesel nakhla...@comcast.net Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com, meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net, 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 4:37 PM In response to Stuart Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:33 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less not being an IMCA member or the original finder. Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you received it from and forward it when you sell it. Stuart McD __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1204 / Virus Database: 1435/3481 - Release Date: 03/04/11 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Campos on Ebay
Hello Count and the List, One interesting detail about reporting an eBay listing is that the boxes to check off in the report process do not give one an opportunity to report that an item is not genuine. However, there is a way, after you have made a purchase, to report that the item which you have received is not as described. Therefore you must buy an item to report that it is not as listed. One possible explanation. Pat Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:09:11 -0800 From: countde...@earthlink.net To: i...@imcamail.de CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Campos on Ebay Hi all who are interested, At Anne's suggestion, I tried to contact the seller without success. In my attempt, I offered to bid on all of his Campos subject to my inspection... as he gives a Las Vegas address. I just noticed that experienced buyers of meteorites are bidding on these offerings. Interesting? http://cgi.ebay.com/88-g-Beautiful-Campo-Del-Cielo-Iron-Meteorite-/200582194107?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item2eb3a163bb Regards to all, Count Deiro IMCA 3536 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi Rob, Make your own card that reflects the updated weight and include the original dealer/collector card that reflects the old weight. Cheers, Mike Bandli -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Lenssen Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:45 PM To: 'Rob Wesel'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Guy's, Thanks for the answers, but - except Stuart's - they are not answering the question how to deal with changing mass. I think everybody will agree that the original card must stay with the piece. I make my own cards only for stones I bought in Morocco and had classified myself. Best, Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rob Wesel [mailto:nakhla...@comcast.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 22:38 Aan: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli; 'Rob Lenssen' Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass In response to Stuart Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:33 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less not being an IMCA member or the original finder. Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you received it from and forward it when you sell it. Stuart McD __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Labels
Here is a good list of Labels, Old and New... http://labels.sv-meteorites.com/ Dennis Miller __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi all, I always include my own specimen card with any specimen that i sell on and have done since i started collecting. This is not because i place any importance on myself or the 'added value' that this might place on a specimen but because i do feel it is important to show the chain of custody of each and every specimen, whether a small micromount or a museum piece. To me this chain of ownership is important whether you are a dealer, a big name famous historic collector or a brand new collector, it makes no difference but just adds to the story of each specimen. If i have refinished a specimen and lost some weight in the process i write the new weight on my card and in the comments section at the bottom i add that due to refinishing the weight has changed whilst in my temporary custody. I have numerous specimens where the chain of ownership is shown by 6 or more specimen cards of various dealers or collectors. In some of these there have been numerous weight changes down the line yet from the cards i can see who did what and when, this is important info and needs to be recorded. On this note although i understand why some dealers do not include previous owners cards to not make obvious where they obtained the specimen i have to say it is a pet hate of mine when this happens. I like to have as much information as possible on the provenance of every piece and the chain of ownership as Mike says is a big part of this. Good discussion! Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Gathering in Tucson this Saturday!!! (3/5)
I wanted to give a shout out that, at noon this Saturday, folks are gathering at the Skybar for some meteorite fun! It's being dubbed the kickoff event for the Tucson Meteorite Club. During the 2010 Meteorite Men showings at the Skybar, there were a lot of conversations about forming such a group, so that makes this meeting spot all the more meaningful. It's also special because the last couple years this is the first place a lot of us have met for the first time! Everyone is welcome to drop in, but there is one catch.. Be sure to bring something for show tell :) If you don't have anything to show, bring your meteorite questions! Ryan set this gathering up, so thanks Ryan for getting the ball rolling. :) It will be a great time, so stop by if you can! Cancel everything else!!! http://www.skybartucson.com/ 536 N. 4th Avenue Mark B. Vail, AZ __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hello Listers, I see that alot of people have their own ways of making ID cards for their meteorites. I have a suggestion that I do for my cards and that is I like to have a section called remarks. In that part I put important info about the meteorite like if it was the first fall in that country, or if it hit something and so on. Down below is a link to a sample card. http://www.flickr.com/photos/48262799@N03/5498168766/ Shawn Alan IMCA 1633 eBaystore http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass martin goff msgmeteorites at gmail.com Fri Mar 4 17:31:24 EST 2011 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Labels Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] Hi all, I always include my own specimen card with any specimen that i sell on and have done since i started collecting. This is not because i place any importance on myself or the 'added value' that this might place on a specimen but because i do feel it is important to show the chain of custody of each and every specimen, whether a small micromount or a museum piece. To me this chain of ownership is important whether you are a dealer, a big name famous historic collector or a brand new collector, it makes no difference but just adds to the story of each specimen. If i have refinished a specimen and lost some weight in the process i write the new weight on my card and in the comments section at the bottom i add that due to refinishing the weight has changed whilst in my temporary custody. I have numerous specimens where the chain of ownership is shown by 6 or more specimen cards of various dealers or collectors. In some of these there have been numerous weight changes down the line yet from the cards i can see who did what and when, this is important info and needs to be recorded. On this note although i understand why some dealers do not include previous owners cards to not make obvious where they obtained the specimen i have to say it is a pet hate of mine when this happens. I like to have as much information as possible on the provenance of every piece and the chain of ownership as Mike says is a big part of this. Good discussion! Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 Previous message: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Labels Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ] More information about the Meteorite-list mailing list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi Mike, hi Martin (quote) The idea is that if everyone did this, and passed original dealer/collector cards along, you could establish a *chain-of-custody*. Chain-of-custody is an important component of provenance. As pieces continue to be sectioned down or change hands, provenance is more important than ever. With the influx of new collectors, we all need to set higher standards so that this precious information gets passed down. (Mike) (quote) i do feel it is important to show the chain of custody of each and every specimen, whether a small micromount or a museum piece. To me this chain of ownership is important whether you are a dealer, a big name famous historic collector or a brand new collector, it makes no difference but just adds to the story of each specimen. [...] I like to have as much information as possible on the provenance of every piece and the chain of ownership as Mike says is a big part of this. (Martin) I fully agree with you on what you said above. I often ask the dealer or collector I bought a meteorite from about the provenance of the material and some have been very helpful, went down the 'archive' and came up with detailed information. Some provided the older meteorite ID cards as well. I do appreciate that special service very much. For me it's also one of the reasons to buy from that particular dealer again. I think a serious collector just has to ask about the provenance of the meteorite material in order to keep the information and pass it on with the meteorite material one day in the future. This is particularly important when you buy 'historic' falls of 'common' or 'ordinary' meteorite types , I think (though of course meteorites are anything but common or ordinary). It is a good discussion indeed ! Cheers Martin (another one ;-) ) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: martin goff msgmeteori...@gmail.com Gesendet: 04.03.2011 23:31:24 An: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi all, I always include my own specimen card with any specimen that i sell on and have done since i started collecting. This is not because i place any importance on myself or the 'added value' that this might place on a specimen but because i do feel it is important to show the chain of custody of each and every specimen, whether a small micromount or a museum piece. To me this chain of ownership is important whether you are a dealer, a big name famous historic collector or a brand new collector, it makes no difference but just adds to the story of each specimen. If i have refinished a specimen and lost some weight in the process i write the new weight on my card and in the comments section at the bottom i add that due to refinishing the weight has changed whilst in my temporary custody. I have numerous specimens where the chain of ownership is shown by 6 or more specimen cards of various dealers or collectors. In some of these there have been numerous weight changes down the line yet from the cards i can see who did what and when, this is important info and needs to be recorded. On this note although i understand why some dealers do not include previous owners cards to not make obvious where they obtained the specimen i have to say it is a pet hate of mine when this happens. I like to have as much information as possible on the provenance of every piece and the chain of ownership as Mike says is a big part of this. Good discussion! Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi Gang, This is just my opinion, so others' mileage may vary. I do not include specimen cards with the pieces I sell for one primary reason, explained below. 1) I include a small identification label for each specimen that shows the name of the specimen, type, location/date of the find/fall and my URL. 2) I do not include the original specimen card (from the dealer I acquired it from) unless it is specifically requested. If the buyer requests it, I will provide a copy of the original card. Personally, I do not find specimen cards to be a convincing method of proving provenance because anyone with a printer can make a copy of any specimen card they want. With a scanner, a person could copy any specimen card in the world and insert whatever information they want using Photoshop. To me, such cards are nice to have, but they prove nothing. The same can be said for certificates of authenticity which are not worth the paper they are printed on. In my view, you either trust your dealer or you do not. A card or certificate might make one feel better about provenance, but it ultimately means or proves nothing. Having said that, I enjoy specimen cards and I collect them. I have a large box full of cards from dozens of different dealers and collections. But I do not count them as proof that a given specimen is genuine. I trust my sources for that authenticity, not the small printed cards they give me. Best regards and happy collecting! MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/4/11, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Rob, Make your own card that reflects the updated weight and include the original dealer/collector card that reflects the old weight. Cheers, Mike Bandli -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Lenssen Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:45 PM To: 'Rob Wesel'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Guy's, Thanks for the answers, but - except Stuart's - they are not answering the question how to deal with changing mass. I think everybody will agree that the original card must stay with the piece. I make my own cards only for stones I bought in Morocco and had classified myself. Best, Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rob Wesel [mailto:nakhla...@comcast.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 22:38 Aan: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli; 'Rob Lenssen' Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass In response to Stuart Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:33 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net; 'Rob Lenssen' rlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass I agree. I keep all the cards you guys send me when I purchase. I have been thinking about doing my own card but it really is meaning less not being an IMCA member or the original finder. Maybe make an entry on the back of the original card as to whom you received it from and forward it when you sell it. Stuart McD __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Many of my customers want any and all cards that were Ever associated with the piece. Many museum card copies Are of a higher weight from which the piece was taken. It would seem most appropriate to include your new Card and current weight along with the old card. People will understand the slightly lower weight as The result of finishing on your part or use of a better Scale. If you advertise at the weight it is after finishing, No one will object to a higher weight on a previous card And, if you like, you can even have a place on the card For weight after polishing or the like. Michael On 3/4/11 1:11 PM, Rob Lenssen rlens...@planet.nl wrote: Hi Mike and List, Concerning Meteorite-Cards... I like to have my stone-type meteorite slices sanded at one side and polished at the other. After buying slices, they typically arrive as-cut. So I have to sand and polish them myself. As you can guess, afterwards the mass doesn¹t correspond to the mass on the cards anymore. Assume I would choose to sell a slice. Should I stripe the original mass, and put a new figure (plus my name?) on the original card (as I would choose to do), or should I make my own new card, or choose even a different option? What would be the best choice? Wonder if we could work out a preferred approach here. All the best, Rob Lenssen AsteroidChipping.com -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens Mike Bandli Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 17:24 Aan: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Free Meteorite Card Template In response to requests for specimen card templates, I have uploaded a template I designed for free use: http://historicmeteorites.com/HistoricMeteorites/labels.html Feel free to edit/tailor it for your personal requirements. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
You bring up good points. Recently I have been signing my cards, as some others did (Hupe, Haag). Very difficult to copy my signature. This may stop one from being unscrupulous. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:33 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob Lenssenrlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Gang, This is just my opinion, so others' mileage may vary. I do not include specimen cards with the pieces I sell for one primary reason, explained below. 1) I include a small identification label for each specimen that shows the name of the specimen, type, location/date of the find/fall and my URL. 2) I do not include the original specimen card (from the dealer I acquired it from) unless it is specifically requested. If the buyer requests it, I will provide a copy of the original card. Personally, I do not find specimen cards to be a convincing method of proving provenance because anyone with a printer can make a copy of any specimen card they want. With a scanner, a person could copy any specimen card in the world and insert whatever information they want using Photoshop. To me, such cards are nice to have, but they prove nothing. The same can be said for certificates of authenticity which are not worth the paper they are printed on. In my view, you either trust your dealer or you do not. A card or certificate might make one feel better about provenance, but it ultimately means or proves nothing. Having said that, I enjoy specimen cards and I collect them. I have a large box full of cards from dozens of different dealers and collections. But I do not count them as proof that a given specimen is genuine. I trust my sources for that authenticity, not the small printed cards they give me. Best regards and happy collecting! MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/4/11, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Rob, Make your own card that reflects the updated weight and include the original dealer/collector card that reflects the old weight. Cheers, Mike Bandli -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Lenssen Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:45 PM To: 'Rob Wesel'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Guy's, Thanks for the answers, but - except Stuart's - they are not answering the question how to deal with changing mass. I think everybody will agree that the original card must stay with the piece. I make my own cards only for stones I bought in Morocco and had classified myself. Best, Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rob Wesel [mailto:nakhla...@comcast.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 22:38 Aan: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli; 'Rob Lenssen' Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass In response to Stuart Nininger, DuPont, LaPaz Not IMCA members but I'm glad they made those cards Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:33 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
May I suggest submissions be made to the IMCA for a standard ID card the size of a Standard business card be offered by the IMCA and leave room to put in the Dealer Name and website URL. This would be rather simple, and IMCA members could submit a JPG of A given card and someone of the officers Could choose the best to use for a generic Card. It could also include a space for the Specific IMCA member number as well As a generic IMCA logo. Of course, this would not benefit dealers And collectors NOT members of the IMCA, But that would be fine with me. For what its worth, Michael PS: If a board member doesn't want to be Bothered, I would be willing to choose from Among entrants and then offer it to the IMCA To have on their site so members could download The JPG and then modify it with their name, URL And IMCA membership number. -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Hi Matt and List, Yes, that is great idea. Signing the cards introduces a great difficulty for those who seek to copy a card or produce a bogus card. As obvious as it seems, that idea never occurred to me. Now I might start issuing cards and signing them. I never issued cards previously because I viewed them the same way as COA's - easy to reproduce and not worth the paper they are printed on. But signing them makes them more meaningful. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/4/11, m...@mhmeteorites.com m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: You bring up good points. Recently I have been signing my cards, as some others did (Hupe, Haag). Very difficult to copy my signature. This may stop one from being unscrupulous. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:33 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob Lenssenrlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Gang, This is just my opinion, so others' mileage may vary. I do not include specimen cards with the pieces I sell for one primary reason, explained below. 1) I include a small identification label for each specimen that shows the name of the specimen, type, location/date of the find/fall and my URL. 2) I do not include the original specimen card (from the dealer I acquired it from) unless it is specifically requested. If the buyer requests it, I will provide a copy of the original card. Personally, I do not find specimen cards to be a convincing method of proving provenance because anyone with a printer can make a copy of any specimen card they want. With a scanner, a person could copy any specimen card in the world and insert whatever information they want using Photoshop. To me, such cards are nice to have, but they prove nothing. The same can be said for certificates of authenticity which are not worth the paper they are printed on. In my view, you either trust your dealer or you do not. A card or certificate might make one feel better about provenance, but it ultimately means or proves nothing. Having said that, I enjoy specimen cards and I collect them. I have a large box full of cards from dozens of different dealers and collections. But I do not count them as proof that a given specimen is genuine. I trust my sources for that authenticity, not the small printed cards they give me. Best regards and happy collecting! MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/4/11, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Rob, Make your own card that reflects the updated weight and include the original dealer/collector card that reflects the old weight. Cheers, Mike Bandli -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Lenssen Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:45 PM To: 'Rob Wesel'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Guy's, Thanks for the answers, but - except Stuart's
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Just my opinion, but I think a standard ID card would be boring. Part of the fun of having the cards is to see what people of various backgrounds and times think is pleasing. It's interesting to see how the various museums designed their cards, what current and past dealers include on theirs, the different fonts, colors, etc. Variety is the spice of life, and I like all the different types of cards that are out there. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:40 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION May I suggest submissions be made to the IMCA for a standard ID card the size of a Standard business card be offered by the IMCA and leave room to put in the Dealer Name and website URL. This would be rather simple, and IMCA members could submit a JPG of A given card and someone of the officers Could choose the best to use for a generic Card. It could also include a space for the Specific IMCA member number as well As a generic IMCA logo. Of course, this would not benefit dealers And collectors NOT members of the IMCA, But that would be fine with me. For what its worth, Michael PS: If a board member doesn't want to be Bothered, I would be willing to choose from Among entrants and then offer it to the IMCA To have on their site so members could download The JPG and then modify it with their name, URL And IMCA membership number. -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Hi David, Great point, and that is why I collect these cards, even though they do not prove authenticity or provenance in my mind. I enjoy seeing the different cards that dealers and institutions use. Some are artisitic, some are purely academic, and some have informative data on them. So I do like getting a card with certain specimens, but they do not provide any extra security or peace of mind (to me). Of course, I really don't see the value in issuing cards for EVERY specimen, including unclassified meteorites, and common meteorites like Campo crystals or NWA 869 - these are so common and distinctive, that there is no motive to forge or fake them. Best regards, MikeG On 3/4/11, Rose, David MD dr...@emersonhosp.org wrote: Just my opinion, but I think a standard ID card would be boring. Part of the fun of having the cards is to see what people of various backgrounds and times think is pleasing. It's interesting to see how the various museums designed their cards, what current and past dealers include on theirs, the different fonts, colors, etc. Variety is the spice of life, and I like all the different types of cards that are out there. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:40 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION May I suggest submissions be made to the IMCA for a standard ID card the size of a Standard business card be offered by the IMCA and leave room to put in the Dealer Name and website URL. This would be rather simple, and IMCA members could submit a JPG of A given card and someone of the officers Could choose the best to use for a generic Card. It could also include a space for the Specific IMCA member number as well As a generic IMCA logo. Of course, this would not benefit dealers And collectors NOT members of the IMCA, But that would be fine with me. For what its worth, Michael PS: If a board member doesn't want to be Bothered, I would be willing to choose from Among entrants and then offer it to the IMCA To have on their site so members could download The JPG and then modify it with their name, URL And IMCA membership number. -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list -- -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
I purchased a historic specimen and the person who originally was supposed to have provided it identified the writing on the back of the specimen box as their own. This established a chain of provenance through 2 or 3 reputable dealers back to the source and then to a museum. But it was the source identifying the handwriting on the back that made the sale and established a nice chain of custody in my opinion. Mark Mark Grossman Briarcliff Manor, NY - Original Message - From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com To: m...@mhmeteorites.com Cc: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; Rob Lenssen rlens...@planet.nl; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:39 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Matt and List, Yes, that is great idea. Signing the cards introduces a great difficulty for those who seek to copy a card or produce a bogus card. As obvious as it seems, that idea never occurred to me. Now I might start issuing cards and signing them. I never issued cards previously because I viewed them the same way as COA's - easy to reproduce and not worth the paper they are printed on. But signing them makes them more meaningful. Best regards, MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/4/11, m...@mhmeteorites.com m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote: You bring up good points. Recently I have been signing my cards, as some others did (Hupe, Haag). Very difficult to copy my signature. This may stop one from being unscrupulous. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:33 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob Lenssenrlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Gang, This is just my opinion, so others' mileage may vary. I do not include specimen cards with the pieces I sell for one primary reason, explained below. 1) I include a small identification label for each specimen that shows the name of the specimen, type, location/date of the find/fall and my URL. 2) I do not include the original specimen card (from the dealer I acquired it from) unless it is specifically requested. If the buyer requests it, I will provide a copy of the original card. Personally, I do not find specimen cards to be a convincing method of proving provenance because anyone with a printer can make a copy of any specimen card they want. With a scanner, a person could copy any specimen card in the world and insert whatever information they want using Photoshop. To me, such cards are nice to have, but they prove nothing. The same can be said for certificates of authenticity which are not worth the paper they are printed on. In my view, you either trust your dealer or you do not. A card or certificate might make one feel better about provenance, but it ultimately means or proves nothing. Having said that, I enjoy specimen cards and I collect them. I have a large box full of cards from dozens of different dealers and collections. But I do not count them as proof that a given specimen is genuine. I trust my sources for that authenticity, not the small printed cards they give me. Best regards and happy collecting! MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/4/11, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Rob, Make your own card that reflects the updated weight and include the original dealer/collector card that reflects the old weight. Cheers, Mike Bandli -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
I designed my own as a form, using Adobe Acrobat. Very easy to use and fill out, and easily modified if need be. I print them out 8 to a sheet, trim them with a paper cutter. I print them on heavy bond parchment paper and they look great. I get lots of compliments on the finished product, and people do appreciate them. I'd be happy to send a copy to anyone who'd like to view it. I'll even modify it for them if they don't have Adobe Acrobat. Just change out my website info for your own. Happy Hunting! -Barrett Roxanne Flowers SLC, UT www.FallenStarHunters.com -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rose, David MD Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:46 PM To: Michael Blood; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Just my opinion, but I think a standard ID card would be boring. Part of the fun of having the cards is to see what people of various backgrounds and times think is pleasing. It's interesting to see how the various museums designed their cards, what current and past dealers include on theirs, the different fonts, colors, etc. Variety is the spice of life, and I like all the different types of cards that are out there. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:40 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION May I suggest submissions be made to the IMCA for a standard ID card the size of a Standard business card be offered by the IMCA and leave room to put in the Dealer Name and website URL. This would be rather simple, and IMCA members could submit a JPG of A given card and someone of the officers Could choose the best to use for a generic Card. It could also include a space for the Specific IMCA member number as well As a generic IMCA logo. Of course, this would not benefit dealers And collectors NOT members of the IMCA, But that would be fine with me. For what its worth, Michael PS: If a board member doesn't want to be Bothered, I would be willing to choose from Among entrants and then offer it to the IMCA To have on their site so members could download The JPG and then modify it with their name, URL And IMCA membership number. -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. P Please consider the impact to the environment before printing this email. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Hello, Thank you Michael for the suggestion and the offer of help, but I would much prefer to see dealers invent their own cards. And I have to agree with Dr. David, the wide range and variety in ID cards is interesting and entertaining, also it does show a certain evolution in interests and priorities. If you haven't yet, I would recommend you take a look at Sergey's very interesting site about labels: _http://labels.sv-meteorites.com/_ (http://labels.sv-meteorites.com/) Not only the size, shape, fonts, have changed a lot over the years (centuries?) but also the information itself, names of meteorites and classes have changed. Very interesting. Also I certainly agree that cards are very important and should be passed along with the specimens, and I do it as often as possible, remembering that only a few years ago provenance was not the hot topic it is now. It all changed when a certain dealer started selling extremely rare pieces with highly suspect provenance. I am sure some of you will remember that problem. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 3/4/2011 4:46:20 PM Mountain Standard Time, dr...@emersonhosp.org writes: Just my opinion, but I think a standard ID card would be boring. Part of the fun of having the cards is to see what people of various backgrounds and times think is pleasing. It's interesting to see how the various museums designed their cards, what current and past dealers include on theirs, the different fonts, colors, etc. Variety is the spice of life, and I like all the different types of cards that are out there. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:40 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION May I suggest submissions be made to the IMCA for a standard ID card the size of a Standard business card be offered by the IMCA and leave room to put in the Dealer Name and website URL. This would be rather simple, and IMCA members could submit a JPG of A given card and someone of the officers Could choose the best to use for a generic Card. It could also include a space for the Specific IMCA member number as well As a generic IMCA logo. Of course, this would not benefit dealers And collectors NOT members of the IMCA, But that would be fine with me. For what its worth, Michael PS: If a board member doesn't want to be Bothered, I would be willing to choose from Among entrants and then offer it to the IMCA To have on their site so members could download The JPG and then modify it with their name, URL And IMCA membership number. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
It's a really nice image to zoom in and fly around the surface of the moon... though, I did have some issues viewing the downloaded file. Did anyone else get errors when opening the tiff? When I was able to get Paint Shop Pro to open the file (1 out of 10 times, it would show the image), I did notice some pixel block errors around the horizon. The file looks to be the correct size, but I am going to try to download it again. Sean -Original Message- From: Sterling K. Webb Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 3:17 PM To: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu ; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download As a passionate downloader with archives of downloaded material that exceed a total of three terabytes (but growing every day), I can tell you that speed at which you receive data is affected by a variety of factors of which ISP willingness is only one. I know the maximum rate my provider can and does supply me with, having done so consistently when allowed by the source, a hair under 4 Megabit/s (636 Kb/s). This download would take 14.7 minutes at that rate, but it's going to take (still downloading) about 48 minutes. Servers always parcel out downloads in a way to optimize their own performance to the demand and the nature of the requestor. For example, if I were the server at asu.edu, I would see to it that a requestor at lpl.arizona.edu got it as fast as he wanted it, like say, 1000 Kb/s or so. They correctly appraised that I was only worth 193 Kb/s... and they were right! And Pete, you can (or should be able to) use the computer for all other tasks (except a competing giant download). You don't have to suddenly become a single-tasker when downloading. Beautiful, isn't she? Those who don't want a giant download and would be satisfied with a good-sized jpeg under one Mb, can find it at: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110303.html Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download It took me less than 10 minutes and you will be limited by how fast your Internet provider download rate is (not what they claim). Great image. Larry I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel â? good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which provides surface context for those incredible narrow-angle shots, has largely gone unheralded â?¦ until now. This past week the team released a new mosaic of the Moon's near side taken entirely with wide-angle frames. Acquired during a two-week period in December, the 1,300 black-and-white frames create a full-disk mosaic measuring 24,000 pixels across. Gulp! As the Moon rotated under LRO's orbit, explains LROC team leader Mark Robinson (Arizona State University), the ground track progressed from east to west (right to left in this mosaic). The image run was timed to keep the Sun high up in the lunar sky but not straight overhead (its altitude varied from 69° to 82°). This created enough shadowing to define crater rims and other topography crisply, unlike the shadow-free view that we see during a full Moon. The combined image shows slight banding where the 1,024-pixel-wide swaths were stitched together. A close-up of Rupes Recta (usually called the Straight Wall) from the new LROC mosaic of the lunar nearside. Located near the eastern edge of Mare Nubium, this steep-faced scarp is about 70 miles (114 km) long. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.Weighing in at just 2 pounds (0.9 kg), LROC's wide-angle camera is small enough to fit in your hand. It features an aperture only 1.2 mm across and
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
So if you don't forward the original how do you state the chain of custody? Also, when you purchase a stone do you automatically become part of the provenance?? I know that sounds like an elemental question but I am still learning here. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: martin goff Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi all, I always include my own specimen card with any specimen that i sell on and have done since i started collecting. This is not because i place any importance on myself or the 'added value' that this might place on a specimen but because i do feel it is important to show the chain of custody of each and every specimen, whether a small micromount or a museum piece. To me this chain of ownership is important whether you are a dealer, a big name famous historic collector or a brand new collector, it makes no difference but just adds to the story of each specimen. If i have refinished a specimen and lost some weight in the process i write the new weight on my card and in the comments section at the bottom i add that due to refinishing the weight has changed whilst in my temporary custody. I have numerous specimens where the chain of ownership is shown by 6 or more specimen cards of various dealers or collectors. In some of these there have been numerous weight changes down the line yet from the cards i can see who did what and when, this is important info and needs to be recorded. On this note although i understand why some dealers do not include previous owners cards to not make obvious where they obtained the specimen i have to say it is a pet hate of mine when this happens. I like to have as much information as possible on the provenance of every piece and the chain of ownership as Mike says is a big part of this. Good discussion! Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ADDITIONAL Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
OK, I also make my own cards based primarily on Many of my specimens being either in one of two Type display boxes - For 2 X 2 macromounts, I make a label that fits in the Back of the box and a name/type only for the Front of the box. For 1.5 X 1.5 membrane boxes I make a long Strip that goes around the edge of the box. HOWEVER an additional ID Card would be Nice TOO. So, since the president of the IMCA has Unilaterally nixed the idea due to her perspective, For those that do want it (as a stand alone OR as An addition to)... Here is what I will do: I will accept card formats submitted by list members. I will choose a good generic format and leave Room for dealer name, URL - and, if they are IMCA members, room to insert their own IMCA logo. AND room to insert their personal web page logo, Such as MichaelBloodMeteorites, Big Kahuna or Nakhla Dog So, I need people will email me off list with formats They are willing to share with the community, I will set It up and form a link from my main page for FREE download of card format(s) - Several to choose from would be nice, so, please email me off list with JPG of The card you use (with personalized logo left blank). I think there are many who will find this useful. Thanks, Michael On 3/4/11 4:21 PM, Met. Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Thank you Michael for the suggestion and the offer of help, but I would much prefer to see dealers invent their own cards. And I have to agree with Dr. David, the wide range and variety in ID cards is interesting and entertaining, also it does show a certain evolution in interests and priorities. If you haven't yet, I would recommend you take a look at Sergey's very interesting site about labels: _http://labels.sv-meteorites.com/_ (http://labels.sv-meteorites.com/) Not only the size, shape, fonts, have changed a lot over the years (centuries?) but also the information itself, names of meteorites and classes have changed. Very interesting. Also I certainly agree that cards are very important and should be passed along with the specimens, and I do it as often as possible, remembering that only a few years ago provenance was not the hot topic it is now. It all changed when a certain dealer started selling extremely rare pieces with highly suspect provenance. I am sure some of you will remember that problem. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 3/4/2011 4:46:20 PM Mountain Standard Time, dr...@emersonhosp.org writes: Just my opinion, but I think a standard ID card would be boring. Part of the fun of having the cards is to see what people of various backgrounds and times think is pleasing. It's interesting to see how the various museums designed their cards, what current and past dealers include on theirs, the different fonts, colors, etc. Variety is the spice of life, and I like all the different types of cards that are out there. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:40 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION May I suggest submissions be made to the IMCA for a standard ID card the size of a Standard business card be offered by the IMCA and leave room to put in the Dealer Name and website URL. This would be rather simple, and IMCA members could submit a JPG of A given card and someone of the officers Could choose the best to use for a generic Card. It could also include a space for the Specific IMCA member number as well As a generic IMCA logo. Of course, this would not benefit dealers And collectors NOT members of the IMCA, But that would be fine with me. For what its worth, Michael PS: If a board member doesn't want to be Bothered, I would be willing to choose from Among entrants and then offer it to the IMCA To have on their site so members could download The JPG and then modify it with their name, URL And IMCA membership number. -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] MRO HiRISE Images - March 2, 2011
MARS RECONNAISSANCE ORBITER HIRISE IMAGES March 2, 2011 o A Tale of Two Craters http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_013799_1755 o Stars and Stripes http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_015900_1465 o A Rare Bulls-Eye Crater http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_019727_1930 o Eberswalde Crater Floor http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_020891_1560 o Light-Toned Rock http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ESP_020946_1450 All of the HiRISE images are archived here: http://hirise.lpl.arizona.edu/ Information about the Mars Reconnaissance Orbiter is online at http://www.nasa.gov/mro. The mission is managed by NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, a division of the California Institute of Technology, for the NASA Science Mission Directorate, Washington, D.C. Lockheed Martin Space Systems, of Denver, is the prime contractor and built the spacecraft. HiRISE is operated by the University of Arizona. Ball Aerospace and Technologies Corp., of Boulder, Colo., built the HiRISE instrument. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Mars Odyssey THEMIS Images: February 28 - March 4, 2011
MARS ODYSSEY THEMIS IMAGES February 28 - March 4, 2011 o Juventae Chasma (28 February 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5587 o Crater Ejecta (01 March 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5588 o Russell Crater Dunes (02 March 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5589 o Tharsis Features (03 March 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5590 o South Polar Layers (04 March 2011) http://themis.asu.edu/node/5591 All of the THEMIS images are archived here: http://themis.asu.edu/latest.html NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory manages the 2001 Mars Odyssey mission for NASA's Office of Space Science, Washington, D.C. The Thermal Emission Imaging System (THEMIS) was developed by Arizona State University, Tempe, in co.oration with Raytheon Santa Barbara Remote Sensing. The THEMIS investigation is led by Dr. Philip Christensen at Arizona State University. Lockheed Martin Astronautics, Denver, is the prime contractor for the Odyssey project, and developed and built the orbiter. Mission operations are conducted jointly from Lockheed Martin and from JPL, a division of the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
Stuart wrote: So if you don't forward the original how do you state the chain of custody? You can note the chain of custody (if you know it) on the back of your specimen card. Stuart wrote: Also, when you purchase a stone do you automatically become part of the provenance?? Yes. Provenance, by its very definition, is not only the *source/origin*, but also the *chain of custody* or *history of ownership*. When you buy a stone, you become a part of the provenance. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McDaniel Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:28 PM To: martin goff; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass So if you don't forward the original how do you state the chain of custody? Also, when you purchase a stone do you automatically become part of the provenance?? I know that sounds like an elemental question but I am still learning here. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: martin goff Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi all, I always include my own specimen card with any specimen that i sell on and have done since i started collecting. This is not because i place any importance on myself or the 'added value' that this might place on a specimen but because i do feel it is important to show the chain of custody of each and every specimen, whether a small micromount or a museum piece. To me this chain of ownership is important whether you are a dealer, a big name famous historic collector or a brand new collector, it makes no difference but just adds to the story of each specimen. If i have refinished a specimen and lost some weight in the process i write the new weight on my card and in the comments section at the bottom i add that due to refinishing the weight has changed whilst in my temporary custody. I have numerous specimens where the chain of ownership is shown by 6 or more specimen cards of various dealers or collectors. In some of these there have been numerous weight changes down the line yet from the cards i can see who did what and when, this is important info and needs to be recorded. On this note although i understand why some dealers do not include previous owners cards to not make obvious where they obtained the specimen i have to say it is a pet hate of mine when this happens. I like to have as much information as possible on the provenance of every piece and the chain of ownership as Mike says is a big part of this. Good discussion! Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] ADDITIONAL Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Maybe we need to have a card contest :-) Enter your card and have list members vote on the best design. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: Michael Blood Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:41 PM To: Met. Anne Black ; dr...@emersonhosp.org ; Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] ADDITIONAL Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION OK, I also make my own cards based primarily on Many of my specimens being either in one of two Type display boxes - For 2 X 2 macromounts, I make a label that fits in the Back of the box and a name/type only for the Front of the box. For 1.5 X 1.5 membrane boxes I make a long Strip that goes around the edge of the box. HOWEVER an additional ID Card would be Nice TOO. So, since the president of the IMCA has Unilaterally nixed the idea due to her perspective, For those that do want it (as a stand alone OR as An addition to)... Here is what I will do: I will accept card formats submitted by list members. I will choose a good generic format and leave Room for dealer name, URL - and, if they are IMCA members, room to insert their own IMCA logo. AND room to insert their personal web page logo, Such as MichaelBloodMeteorites, Big Kahuna or Nakhla Dog So, I need people will email me off list with formats They are willing to share with the community, I will set It up and form a link from my main page for FREE download of card format(s) - Several to choose from would be nice, so, please email me off list with JPG of The card you use (with personalized logo left blank). I think there are many who will find this useful. Thanks, Michael On 3/4/11 4:21 PM, Met. Anne Black impact...@aol.com wrote: Hello, Thank you Michael for the suggestion and the offer of help, but I would much prefer to see dealers invent their own cards. And I have to agree with Dr. David, the wide range and variety in ID cards is interesting and entertaining, also it does show a certain evolution in interests and priorities. If you haven't yet, I would recommend you take a look at Sergey's very interesting site about labels: _http://labels.sv-meteorites.com/_ (http://labels.sv-meteorites.com/) Not only the size, shape, fonts, have changed a lot over the years (centuries?) but also the information itself, names of meteorites and classes have changed. Very interesting. Also I certainly agree that cards are very important and should be passed along with the specimens, and I do it as often as possible, remembering that only a few years ago provenance was not the hot topic it is now. It all changed when a certain dealer started selling extremely rare pieces with highly suspect provenance. I am sure some of you will remember that problem. Anne M. Black _http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) _IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) President, I.M.C.A. Inc. _http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) In a message dated 3/4/2011 4:46:20 PM Mountain Standard Time, dr...@emersonhosp.org writes: Just my opinion, but I think a standard ID card would be boring. Part of the fun of having the cards is to see what people of various backgrounds and times think is pleasing. It's interesting to see how the various museums designed their cards, what current and past dealers include on theirs, the different fonts, colors, etc. Variety is the spice of life, and I like all the different types of cards that are out there. David -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Michael Blood Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:40 PM To: Meteorite List Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION May I suggest submissions be made to the IMCA for a standard ID card the size of a Standard business card be offered by the IMCA and leave room to put in the Dealer Name and website URL. This would be rather simple, and IMCA members could submit a JPG of A given card and someone of the officers Could choose the best to use for a generic Card. It could also include a space for the Specific IMCA member number as well As a generic IMCA logo. Of course, this would not benefit dealers And collectors NOT members of the IMCA, But that would be fine with me. For what its worth, Michael PS: If a board member doesn't want to be Bothered, I would be willing to choose from Among entrants and then offer it to the IMCA To have on their site so members could download The JPG and then modify it with their name, URL And IMCA membership number. -- Teachin' a pig to dance is a waste of time and it irritates the pig Mark Twain -- 1. Whenever you're wrong, admit it, 2. Whenever you're right, shut up. Shaquille O'Neal __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
OK, that was what I was thinking, thanks!! Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: Mike Bandli Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:55 PM To: 'Stuart McDaniel' ; 'martin goff' ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: RE: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Stuart wrote: So if you don't forward the original how do you state the chain of custody? You can note the chain of custody (if you know it) on the back of your specimen card. Stuart wrote: Also, when you purchase a stone do you automatically become part of the provenance?? Yes. Provenance, by its very definition, is not only the *source/origin*, but also the *chain of custody* or *history of ownership*. When you buy a stone, you become a part of the provenance. Cheers, Mike Bandli --- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Stuart McDaniel Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 4:28 PM To: martin goff; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass So if you don't forward the original how do you state the chain of custody? Also, when you purchase a stone do you automatically become part of the provenance?? I know that sounds like an elemental question but I am still learning here. Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: martin goff Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:31 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi all, I always include my own specimen card with any specimen that i sell on and have done since i started collecting. This is not because i place any importance on myself or the 'added value' that this might place on a specimen but because i do feel it is important to show the chain of custody of each and every specimen, whether a small micromount or a museum piece. To me this chain of ownership is important whether you are a dealer, a big name famous historic collector or a brand new collector, it makes no difference but just adds to the story of each specimen. If i have refinished a specimen and lost some weight in the process i write the new weight on my card and in the comments section at the bottom i add that due to refinishing the weight has changed whilst in my temporary custody. I have numerous specimens where the chain of ownership is shown by 6 or more specimen cards of various dealers or collectors. In some of these there have been numerous weight changes down the line yet from the cards i can see who did what and when, this is important info and needs to be recorded. On this note although i understand why some dealers do not include previous owners cards to not make obvious where they obtained the specimen i have to say it is a pet hate of mine when this happens. I like to have as much information as possible on the provenance of every piece and the chain of ownership as Mike says is a big part of this. Good discussion! Cheers Martin -- Martin Goff www.msg-meteorites.co.uk IMCA #3387 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] AD:Brenham LED Lighted Display Case
Hello List, I built an LED lighted display case for the Brenham Slice I got from Steve Arnold. It plugs into 110vac outlet , I have it plugged into an X10 timer that turns it on 1/2 hour after sunset and turns off at 12 midnight everyday, it's eye candy on the wall. The unit puts out very low heat and the LEDs, should have a lifespan of 100,000 hours. http://www.meteorman.org/Brenham-LED-display.htm If someone is interested in making their slice lighted, please let me know. Cheers, Tim Heitz MIDWEST METEORITES http://www.meteorman.org 314-596-1435 Member IMCA-4781 International Meteorite Collectors Association - Original Message - From: meteorh...@aol.com To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:15 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] AD: Killer stuff on Ebay now Hey List, I have some killer stuff on Ebay right now: A 2,400 gram 19 inch wide slice of Muonionalusta in a super heavy duty frame encased in oil. I also played around with 3 different lights to get some whacky cool images with the various light reflecting off the Widmanstatten structure. This alone is worth a minute to look at. In addition to the slice being preserved in oil, the frame also allows the slice to have that neat wet look. 183 gram Vaca Muerta full slice from the mass found on the Meteorite Men Chile episode. Also a couple part slices remaining from the small end piece I chopped up. 14.6 kg Muonionalusta whole specimen. Nice. 33.8 gram Ash Creek full slice. An assortment of Meteorite Magnets, small specimen cases, with specimens in them, attached to refrigerator magnets. Great price, neat novelty to have part of your collection on your refrigerator or any other metal surface you would choose. These also make great gifts. The new ones up just now are all numbered and personally signed by me. An assortment of other items are up for your pleasure. On some of the big ticket items, I will entertain best offers on. For list members only, over this weekend only, any order over with a total of $50 or more and I will toss in a free Meteorite Hunters and Collectors Magazine, autographed by me for no extra charge. Just let me know you want the magazine tossed in. Check it all out here: http://shop.ebay.com/stevearnoldmeteorites/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562 Also, not on Ebay yet, I have some full slices, up to 21 inches across, of an oriented Brenham pallasite. These are the most amazing slices I have ever seen. I also have a new case where the slices can be placed between two sheets of Lexan and suspended in oil. Tim Heitz bought one of these from me and he devised an awesome LED backlighting system for his frame, where the frame can be hung on a wall and the whole apparatus lights up like a cosmic stain glassed window. Maybe Tim can offer some photos if anyone is interested? The Brenham slices can be sold with or without the frames, just ask for details. Lots of options. Enjoy. Thanks. Steve Arnold __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
[meteorite-list] Skyrock Cafe down - alternate sites for members
Those of you that visit skyrock know likely know its been down for a week or so now. There are two options for you guys to use to keep up to date with members of the forum. My forum: http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=wwwmeteoritesto Johnnos forum: http://www.meteoritejunction.com/ This is not an attempt to steal members, just offer places for the members to visit during this downtime. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Hey all, As one who recently needed to come up with a design, I'm more of the opinion that cards reflect the personality of the person who produced it. I had gone through Sergey's pages some time ago. Thanks Anne for posting the link. For my own cards I went through the collection of cards I have accumulated building my own collection, picking out the four or five that had the features and details I wanted. Unfortunately none matched exactly the look I wanted. I put together what I wanted in Photoshop, but almost any graphics program would work just as well. A common card might be nice for those that don't have the time or need to generate custom cards. I do like the variety of cards. Each one reminds me of the dealer themselves. I'd go so far as to say the cards themselves are collectible too. One last thing, Avery, the company that makes office supplies has software to help design (business) cards and has an online tool to assist in this too. Once on their site, http://www.avery.com follow the template and software advisor link on the left to find their various tools. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Sorry Forgot to mention I like the cards I get from dealers to be signed as well. I'm signing mine. -- Richard Kowalski __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Hello Everyone! I always like the ID Card discussions over the years. I agree with those who like different styles of cards from the different 'personalities' of collectors and dealers. In fact, I use two different styles which are different in size as well. I use glossy business card stock for planetary and extremely rare types for a color ID card, and then I use just black ink on tan parchment stock for all other types. Since I have two different ID card styles, does that mean I have a split 'personality'?... probably!! ;-) Hope everyone has a great weekend!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hey all, As one who recently needed to come up with a design, I'm more of the opinion that cards reflect the personality of the person who produced it. I had gone through Sergey's pages some time ago. Thanks Anne for posting the link. For my own cards I went through the collection of cards I have accumulated building my own collection, picking out the four or five that had the features and details I wanted. Unfortunately none matched exactly the look I wanted. I put together what I wanted in Photoshop, but almost any graphics program would work just as well. A common card might be nice for those that don't have the time or need to generate custom cards. I do like the variety of cards. Each one reminds me of the dealer themselves. I'd go so far as to say the cards themselves are collectible too. One last thing, Avery, the company that makes office supplies has software to help design (business) cards and has an online tool to assist in this too. Once on their site, http://www.avery.com follow the template and software advisor link on the left to find their various tools. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
I downloaded the picture in less than five secondsdid I miss the HUGE one? - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download As a passionate downloader with archives of downloaded material that exceed a total of three terabytes (but growing every day), I can tell you that speed at which you receive data is affected by a variety of factors of which ISP willingness is only one. I know the maximum rate my provider can and does supply me with, having done so consistently when allowed by the source, a hair under 4 Megabit/s (636 Kb/s). This download would take 14.7 minutes at that rate, but it's going to take (still downloading) about 48 minutes. Servers always parcel out downloads in a way to optimize their own performance to the demand and the nature of the requestor. For example, if I were the server at asu.edu, I would see to it that a requestor at lpl.arizona.edu got it as fast as he wanted it, like say, 1000 Kb/s or so. They correctly appraised that I was only worth 193 Kb/s... and they were right! And Pete, you can (or should be able to) use the computer for all other tasks (except a competing giant download). You don't have to suddenly become a single-tasker when downloading. Beautiful, isn't she? Those who don't want a giant download and would be satisfied with a good-sized jpeg under one Mb, can find it at: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110303.html Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download It took me less than 10 minutes and you will be limited by how fast your Internet provider download rate is (not what they claim). Great image. Larry I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel â? good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which provides surface context for those incredible narrow-angle shots, has largely gone unheralded â?¦ until now. This past week the team released a new mosaic of the Moon's near side taken entirely with wide-angle frames. Acquired during a two-week period in December, the 1,300 black-and-white frames create a full-disk mosaic measuring 24,000 pixels across. Gulp! As the Moon rotated under LRO's orbit, explains LROC team leader Mark Robinson (Arizona State University), the ground track progressed from east to west (right to left in this mosaic). The image run was timed to keep the Sun high up in the lunar sky but not straight overhead (its altitude varied from 69° to 82°). This created enough shadowing to define crater rims and other topography crisply, unlike the shadow-free view that we see during a full Moon. The combined image shows slight banding where the 1,024-pixel-wide swaths were stitched together. A close-up of Rupes Recta (usually called the Straight Wall) from the new LROC mosaic of the lunar nearside. Located near the eastern edge of Mare Nubium, this steep-faced scarp is about 70 miles (114 km) long. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.Weighing in at just 2 pounds (0.9 kg), LROC's wide-angle camera is small enough to fit in your hand. It features an aperture only 1.2 mm across and a focal length of just 6 mm (for visible-light work). Yet from LRO's very low orbit, currently only 20 miles (30 km) up, this mighty mite can pick out surface details as small as 250 feet (75 m). Click here to view the specifications for LROC's wide- and narrow-angle cameras. The image looks
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
List, I've always wondered if it were proper to offer provenence display cards in ebay listings. For instance, Greg and others, I've purchased a duplicate specimens from you over the past number of years, since someday when the necessity calls, I'll be able to sell one and keep the other for my collection. Can one say it's from the Hupe collection for example? I've felt that it is proper to ask first. What's proper? Also, reflecting on hand-written cards...I love them! - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hello Everyone! I always like the ID Card discussions over the years. I agree with those who like different styles of cards from the different 'personalities' of collectors and dealers. In fact, I use two different styles which are different in size as well. I use glossy business card stock for planetary and extremely rare types for a color ID card, and then I use just black ink on tan parchment stock for all other types. Since I have two different ID card styles, does that mean I have a split 'personality'?... probably!! ;-) Hope everyone has a great weekend!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hey all, As one who recently needed to come up with a design, I'm more of the opinion that cards reflect the personality of the person who produced it. I had gone through Sergey's pages some time ago. Thanks Anne for posting the link. For my own cards I went through the collection of cards I have accumulated building my own collection, picking out the four or five that had the features and details I wanted. Unfortunately none matched exactly the look I wanted. I put together what I wanted in Photoshop, but almost any graphics program would work just as well. A common card might be nice for those that don't have the time or need to generate custom cards. I do like the variety of cards. Each one reminds me of the dealer themselves. I'd go so far as to say the cards themselves are collectible too. One last thing, Avery, the company that makes office supplies has software to help design (business) cards and has an online tool to assist in this too. Once on their site, http://www.avery.com follow the template and software advisor link on the left to find their various tools. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Hi Richard M., Great question, I appreciate you asking but it is not necessary. If you buy an item from us or anyone and it comes with an ID card, I would say you can certainly say it is from whatever collection, museum or otherwise that it came from. We used to hand write most of the info on the ID's back in the day. If you have any of the white paper ones, that is getting real old school as far as our ID's go. We went to the more rigid parchment stock several years ago. Seems ID cards are an ever-evolving process for us. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Montgomery Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:38 PM To: Greg Hupe ; Richard Kowalski ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION List, I've always wondered if it were proper to offer provenence display cards in ebay listings. For instance, Greg and others, I've purchased a duplicate specimens from you over the past number of years, since someday when the necessity calls, I'll be able to sell one and keep the other for my collection. Can one say it's from the Hupe collection for example? I've felt that it is proper to ask first. What's proper? Also, reflecting on hand-written cards...I love them! - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hello Everyone! I always like the ID Card discussions over the years. I agree with those who like different styles of cards from the different 'personalities' of collectors and dealers. In fact, I use two different styles which are different in size as well. I use glossy business card stock for planetary and extremely rare types for a color ID card, and then I use just black ink on tan parchment stock for all other types. Since I have two different ID card styles, does that mean I have a split 'personality'?... probably!! ;-) Hope everyone has a great weekend!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hey all, As one who recently needed to come up with a design, I'm more of the opinion that cards reflect the personality of the person who produced it. I had gone through Sergey's pages some time ago. Thanks Anne for posting the link. For my own cards I went through the collection of cards I have accumulated building my own collection, picking out the four or five that had the features and details I wanted. Unfortunately none matched exactly the look I wanted. I put together what I wanted in Photoshop, but almost any graphics program would work just as well. A common card might be nice for those that don't have the time or need to generate custom cards. I do like the variety of cards. Each one reminds me of the dealer themselves. I'd go so far as to say the cards themselves are collectible too. One last thing, Avery, the company that makes office supplies has software to help design (business) cards and has an online tool to assist in this too. Once on their site, http://www.avery.com follow the template and software advisor link on the left to find their various tools. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Hi Richard, Greg and all, I've got more than a few of those old handwritten paper ones Greg... does that mean I'm getting old?! ;-) Like Greg and probably most of us, I also evolved my cards over the first few years of collecting. The cards I use now are actually business cards from VistaPrint (www.vistaprint.com). They are sturdy and you can customise them how you want. They're also very cheap (or often even free) with a few dollars for shipping. I've printed onto them before but usually handwrite them now as I don't have to do a lot like a dealer and I also like the old personal touch of handwriting too. If you scroll to the bottom of this page, there is an example along with a few other cards maintaining the provenance for this piece: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/watson.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hi Richard M., Great question, I appreciate you asking but it is not necessary. If you buy an item from us or anyone and it comes with an ID card, I would say you can certainly say it is from whatever collection, museum or otherwise that it came from. We used to hand write most of the info on the ID's back in the day. If you have any of the white paper ones, that is getting real old school as far as our ID's go. We went to the more rigid parchment stock several years ago. Seems ID cards are an ever-evolving process for us. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Montgomery Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:38 PM To: Greg Hupe ; Richard Kowalski ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION List, I've always wondered if it were proper to offer provenence display cards in ebay listings. For instance, Greg and others, I've purchased a duplicate specimens from you over the past number of years, since someday when the necessity calls, I'll be able to sell one and keep the other for my collection. Can one say it's from the Hupe collection for example? I've felt that it is proper to ask first. What's proper? Also, reflecting on hand-written cards...I love them! - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hello Everyone! I always like the ID Card discussions over the years. I agree with those who like different styles of cards from the different 'personalities' of collectors and dealers. In fact, I use two different styles which are different in size as well. I use glossy business card stock for planetary and extremely rare types for a color ID card, and then I use just black ink on tan parchment stock for all other types. Since I have two different ID card styles, does that mean I have a split 'personality'?... probably!! ;-) Hope everyone has a great weekend!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hey all, As one who recently needed to come up with a design, I'm more of the opinion that cards reflect the personality of the person who produced it. I had gone through Sergey's pages some time ago. Thanks Anne for posting the link. For my own cards I went through the collection of cards I have accumulated building my own collection, picking out the four or five that had the features and details I wanted. Unfortunately none matched exactly the look I wanted. I put together what I wanted in Photoshop, but almost any graphics program would work just as well. A common card might be nice for those that don't have the time or need to generate custom cards. I do like the variety of cards. Each one reminds me of the dealer themselves. I'd go so far as to say the cards themselves are collectible too. One last thing, Avery, the company that makes office supplies has software to help design (business) cards and has an online tool to assist in this too. Once on their site, http://www.avery.com follow the template and software advisor link on the left to find their various tools. -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
A five second download of 549 Mb of data would be a transfer rate of 112,435 Kb/s. If true, please send the name of your ISP and signup information... That's 878 Megabit/s, or just under a Gigabit/s. Gigabit Ethernet achieves these speeds, but only within its network. There are a few Gigabit Ethernet ISP's, but only a few. Google announced plans to operate an experimental Gigabit Ethernet ISP service last year, but nothing since (requires fiber optics or four loaded copper pairs). Fortunate fellow if that's what you got... Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download I downloaded the picture in less than five secondsdid I miss the HUGE one? - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download As a passionate downloader with archives of downloaded material that exceed a total of three terabytes (but growing every day), I can tell you that speed at which you receive data is affected by a variety of factors of which ISP willingness is only one. I know the maximum rate my provider can and does supply me with, having done so consistently when allowed by the source, a hair under 4 Megabit/s (636 Kb/s). This download would take 14.7 minutes at that rate, but it's going to take (still downloading) about 48 minutes. Servers always parcel out downloads in a way to optimize their own performance to the demand and the nature of the requestor. For example, if I were the server at asu.edu, I would see to it that a requestor at lpl.arizona.edu got it as fast as he wanted it, like say, 1000 Kb/s or so. They correctly appraised that I was only worth 193 Kb/s... and they were right! And Pete, you can (or should be able to) use the computer for all other tasks (except a competing giant download). You don't have to suddenly become a single-tasker when downloading. Beautiful, isn't she? Those who don't want a giant download and would be satisfied with a good-sized jpeg under one Mb, can find it at: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110303.html Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download It took me less than 10 minutes and you will be limited by how fast your Internet provider download rate is (not what they claim). Great image. Larry I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel â? good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which provides surface context for those incredible narrow-angle shots, has largely gone unheralded â?¦ until now. This past week the team released a new mosaic of the Moon's near side taken entirely with wide-angle frames. Acquired during a two-week period in December, the 1,300 black-and-white frames create a full-disk mosaic measuring 24,000 pixels across. Gulp! As the Moon rotated under LRO's orbit, explains LROC team leader Mark Robinson (Arizona State University), the ground track progressed from east to west (right to left in this mosaic). The image run was timed to keep the Sun high up in the lunar sky but
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Hi Jeff, I feel like I AM the one getting old! I am 'very' slowly creating ID templates for the more common material as I run out of semi pre-printed stock. Being out-of-date like I am, I still hand write address labels. I am such a slow typist that I can write the labels and customs forms quicker! Maybe one day when the arthritis kicks in I will have to hire an assistant to do all that. :) Getting a little tired... Now where is that button?? Greg -Original Message- From: Jeff Kuyken Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:23 PM To: Greg Hupe ; Richard Montgomery ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hi Richard, Greg and all, I've got more than a few of those old handwritten paper ones Greg... does that mean I'm getting old?! ;-) Like Greg and probably most of us, I also evolved my cards over the first few years of collecting. The cards I use now are actually business cards from VistaPrint (www.vistaprint.com). They are sturdy and you can customise them how you want. They're also very cheap (or often even free) with a few dollars for shipping. I've printed onto them before but usually handwrite them now as I don't have to do a lot like a dealer and I also like the old personal touch of handwriting too. If you scroll to the bottom of this page, there is an example along with a few other cards maintaining the provenance for this piece: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/watson.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hi Richard M., Great question, I appreciate you asking but it is not necessary. If you buy an item from us or anyone and it comes with an ID card, I would say you can certainly say it is from whatever collection, museum or otherwise that it came from. We used to hand write most of the info on the ID's back in the day. If you have any of the white paper ones, that is getting real old school as far as our ID's go. We went to the more rigid parchment stock several years ago. Seems ID cards are an ever-evolving process for us. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Montgomery Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:38 PM To: Greg Hupe ; Richard Kowalski ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION List, I've always wondered if it were proper to offer provenence display cards in ebay listings. For instance, Greg and others, I've purchased a duplicate specimens from you over the past number of years, since someday when the necessity calls, I'll be able to sell one and keep the other for my collection. Can one say it's from the Hupe collection for example? I've felt that it is proper to ask first. What's proper? Also, reflecting on hand-written cards...I love them! - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hello Everyone! I always like the ID Card discussions over the years. I agree with those who like different styles of cards from the different 'personalities' of collectors and dealers. In fact, I use two different styles which are different in size as well. I use glossy business card stock for planetary and extremely rare types for a color ID card, and then I use just black ink on tan parchment stock for all other types. Since I have two different ID card styles, does that mean I have a split 'personality'?... probably!! ;-) Hope everyone has a great weekend!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hey all, As one who recently needed to come up with a design, I'm more of the opinion that cards reflect the personality of the person who produced it. I had gone through Sergey's pages some time ago. Thanks Anne for posting the link. For my own cards I went through the collection of cards I have accumulated building my own collection, picking out the four or five that had the features and details I wanted. Unfortunately none matched exactly the look I wanted. I put together what I wanted in Photoshop, but almost any graphics program would work just as well. A common card might be nice for those that don't have the time or need to generate custom cards. I do like the variety of
[meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards EVOLUTION
I have saved every version of my specimen cards over the years, still not sure I have it right yet. Photo of them all here: http://www.nakhladogmeteorites.com/catalog/cards.htm Rob Wesel www.nakhladogmeteorites.com www.facebook.com/Nakhla.Dog.Meteorites www.facebook.com/Rob.Wesel -- We are the music makers... and we are the dreamers of the dreams. Willy Wonka, 1971 -- From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:34 PM To: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hi Jeff, I feel like I AM the one getting old! I am 'very' slowly creating ID templates for the more common material as I run out of semi pre-printed stock. Being out-of-date like I am, I still hand write address labels. I am such a slow typist that I can write the labels and customs forms quicker! Maybe one day when the arthritis kicks in I will have to hire an assistant to do all that. :) Getting a little tired... Now where is that button?? Greg -Original Message- From: Jeff Kuyken Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:23 PM To: Greg Hupe ; Richard Montgomery ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hi Richard, Greg and all, I've got more than a few of those old handwritten paper ones Greg... does that mean I'm getting old?! ;-) Like Greg and probably most of us, I also evolved my cards over the first few years of collecting. The cards I use now are actually business cards from VistaPrint (www.vistaprint.com). They are sturdy and you can customise them how you want. They're also very cheap (or often even free) with a few dollars for shipping. I've printed onto them before but usually handwrite them now as I don't have to do a lot like a dealer and I also like the old personal touch of handwriting too. If you scroll to the bottom of this page, there is an example along with a few other cards maintaining the provenance for this piece: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/watson.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hi Richard M., Great question, I appreciate you asking but it is not necessary. If you buy an item from us or anyone and it comes with an ID card, I would say you can certainly say it is from whatever collection, museum or otherwise that it came from. We used to hand write most of the info on the ID's back in the day. If you have any of the white paper ones, that is getting real old school as far as our ID's go. We went to the more rigid parchment stock several years ago. Seems ID cards are an ever-evolving process for us. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Montgomery Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:38 PM To: Greg Hupe ; Richard Kowalski ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION List, I've always wondered if it were proper to offer provenence display cards in ebay listings. For instance, Greg and others, I've purchased a duplicate specimens from you over the past number of years, since someday when the necessity calls, I'll be able to sell one and keep the other for my collection. Can one say it's from the Hupe collection for example? I've felt that it is proper to ask first. What's proper? Also, reflecting on hand-written cards...I love them! - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hello Everyone! I always like the ID Card discussions over the years. I agree with those who like different styles of cards from the different 'personalities' of collectors and dealers. In fact, I use two different styles which are different in size as well. I use glossy business card stock for planetary and extremely rare types for a color ID card, and then I use just black ink on tan parchment stock for all other types. Since I have two different ID card styles, does that mean I have a split 'personality'?... probably!! ;-) Hope everyone has a great weekend!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hey all, As one who recently needed to come up
Re: [meteorite-list] Skyrock Cafe down - alternate sites for members
G'Day Greg Thank you for your plug. I too, am sorry that the SkyRock is down, but MJ is a mirror of SkyRock, just to help and support their members somewhere to convene in the interim. Cheers John -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Greg Catterton Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:26 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: [meteorite-list] Skyrock Cafe down - alternate sites for members Those of you that visit skyrock know likely know its been down for a week or so now. There are two options for you guys to use to keep up to date with members of the forum. My forum: http://www.hostingphpbb.com/forum/index.php?mforum=wwwmeteoritesto Johnnos forum: http://www.meteoritejunction.com/ This is not an attempt to steal members, just offer places for the members to visit during this downtime. Greg Catterton www.wanderingstarmeteorites.com IMCA member 4682 On Ebay: http://stores.shop.ebay.com/wanderingstarmeteorites On Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/WanderingStarMeteorites __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass
I like that idea if there is some where to verify the signature. But in today's electronic world, verification is only an email away! Stuart McDaniel Lawndale, NC Secr., Cleve. Co. Astronomical Society -Original Message- From: m...@mhmeteorites.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 6:34 PM To: Michael Gilmer ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Mike Bandli Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com ; Rob Lenssen Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass You bring up good points. Recently I have been signing my cards, as some others did (Hupe, Haag). Very difficult to copy my signature. This may stop one from being unscrupulous. Matt Matt Morgan Mile High Meteorites http://www.mhmeteorites.com P.O. Box 151293 Lakewood, CO 80215 -Original Message- From: Michael Gilmer meteoritem...@gmail.com Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 18:24:33 To: Mike Bandlifuzzf...@comcast.net Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Rob Lenssenrlens...@planet.nl Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Gang, This is just my opinion, so others' mileage may vary. I do not include specimen cards with the pieces I sell for one primary reason, explained below. 1) I include a small identification label for each specimen that shows the name of the specimen, type, location/date of the find/fall and my URL. 2) I do not include the original specimen card (from the dealer I acquired it from) unless it is specifically requested. If the buyer requests it, I will provide a copy of the original card. Personally, I do not find specimen cards to be a convincing method of proving provenance because anyone with a printer can make a copy of any specimen card they want. With a scanner, a person could copy any specimen card in the world and insert whatever information they want using Photoshop. To me, such cards are nice to have, but they prove nothing. The same can be said for certificates of authenticity which are not worth the paper they are printed on. In my view, you either trust your dealer or you do not. A card or certificate might make one feel better about provenance, but it ultimately means or proves nothing. Having said that, I enjoy specimen cards and I collect them. I have a large box full of cards from dozens of different dealers and collections. But I do not count them as proof that a given specimen is genuine. I trust my sources for that authenticity, not the small printed cards they give me. Best regards and happy collecting! MikeG -- Mike Gilmer - Galactic Stone Ironworks Meteorites Website - http://www.galactic-stone.com Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/galacticstone News Feed - http://www.galactic-stone.com/rss/126516 Twitter - http://twitter.com/galacticstone EOM - http://www.encyclopedia-of-meteorites.com/collection.aspx?id=1564 --- On 3/4/11, Mike Bandli fuzzf...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Rob, Make your own card that reflects the updated weight and include the original dealer/collector card that reflects the old weight. Cheers, Mike Bandli -- Mike Bandli Historic Meteorites www.HistoricMeteorites.com and join us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/Meteorites1 IMCA #5765 --- This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -Original Message- From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Rob Lenssen Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 1:45 PM To: 'Rob Wesel'; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass Hi Guy's, Thanks for the answers, but - except Stuart's - they are not answering the question how to deal with changing mass. I think everybody will agree that the original card must stay with the piece. I make my own cards only for stones I bought in Morocco and had classified myself. Best, Rob -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Rob Wesel [mailto:nakhla...@comcast.net] Verzonden: vrijdag 4 maart 2011 22:38 Aan: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; Mike Bandli; 'Rob Lenssen' Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards - changing mass In response to Stuart Nininger,
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
Thanks Sterling...so I probably don't have the HUGE one, since I'm on a simple broad-band connection. The pic a have is, maybe, three times the width of my 17 screen. Since this is probably a junior download, can you provide the link for the mega-big-one? Thanks! -Richard M - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download A five second download of 549 Mb of data would be a transfer rate of 112,435 Kb/s. If true, please send the name of your ISP and signup information... That's 878 Megabit/s, or just under a Gigabit/s. Gigabit Ethernet achieves these speeds, but only within its network. There are a few Gigabit Ethernet ISP's, but only a few. Google announced plans to operate an experimental Gigabit Ethernet ISP service last year, but nothing since (requires fiber optics or four loaded copper pairs). Fortunate fellow if that's what you got... Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download I downloaded the picture in less than five secondsdid I miss the HUGE one? - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download As a passionate downloader with archives of downloaded material that exceed a total of three terabytes (but growing every day), I can tell you that speed at which you receive data is affected by a variety of factors of which ISP willingness is only one. I know the maximum rate my provider can and does supply me with, having done so consistently when allowed by the source, a hair under 4 Megabit/s (636 Kb/s). This download would take 14.7 minutes at that rate, but it's going to take (still downloading) about 48 minutes. Servers always parcel out downloads in a way to optimize their own performance to the demand and the nature of the requestor. For example, if I were the server at asu.edu, I would see to it that a requestor at lpl.arizona.edu got it as fast as he wanted it, like say, 1000 Kb/s or so. They correctly appraised that I was only worth 193 Kb/s... and they were right! And Pete, you can (or should be able to) use the computer for all other tasks (except a competing giant download). You don't have to suddenly become a single-tasker when downloading. Beautiful, isn't she? Those who don't want a giant download and would be satisfied with a good-sized jpeg under one Mb, can find it at: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110303.html Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download It took me less than 10 minutes and you will be limited by how fast your Internet provider download rate is (not what they claim). Great image. Larry I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of Apollo landing sites by the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter Camera (LROC). It can resolve the surface at 2 feet (0.5 m) per pixel â? good enough to reveal even the paths worn in the lunar soil by the astronauts' boots. A new 24,000-pixel-square mosaic from NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter shows the Moon's nearside as never before. Click here for a larger (but not full-size!) version; a labeled version is here. NASA / GSFC / Arizona State Univ.The work of LROC's wide-angle camera, which
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
Try this Richard http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/data/pr/tiff/wac_nearside.tif - Original Message From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 9:06:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download Thanks Sterling...so I probably don't have the HUGE one, since I'm on a simple broad-band connection. The pic a have is, maybe, three times the width of my 17 screen. Since this is probably a junior download, can you provide the link for the mega-big-one? Thanks! -Richard M - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download A five second download of 549 Mb of data would be a transfer rate of 112,435 Kb/s. If true, please send the name of your ISP and signup information... That's 878 Megabit/s, or just under a Gigabit/s. Gigabit Ethernet achieves these speeds, but only within its network. There are a few Gigabit Ethernet ISP's, but only a few. Google announced plans to operate an experimental Gigabit Ethernet ISP service last year, but nothing since (requires fiber optics or four loaded copper pairs). Fortunate fellow if that's what you got... Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download I downloaded the picture in less than five secondsdid I miss the HUGE one? - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download As a passionate downloader with archives of downloaded material that exceed a total of three terabytes (but growing every day), I can tell you that speed at which you receive data is affected by a variety of factors of which ISP willingness is only one. I know the maximum rate my provider can and does supply me with, having done so consistently when allowed by the source, a hair under 4 Megabit/s (636 Kb/s). This download would take 14.7 minutes at that rate, but it's going to take (still downloading) about 48 minutes. Servers always parcel out downloads in a way to optimize their own performance to the demand and the nature of the requestor. For example, if I were the server at asu.edu, I would see to it that a requestor at lpl.arizona.edu got it as fast as he wanted it, like say, 1000 Kb/s or so. They correctly appraised that I was only worth 193 Kb/s... and they were right! And Pete, you can (or should be able to) use the computer for all other tasks (except a competing giant download). You don't have to suddenly become a single-tasker when downloading. Beautiful, isn't she? Those who don't want a giant download and would be satisfied with a good-sized jpeg under one Mb, can find it at: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110303.html Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download It took me less than 10 minutes and you will be limited by how fast your Internet provider download rate is (not what they claim). Great image. Larry I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte View of the Moon Ever since NASA's Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter began circling the Moon at low altitude in mid-2009, planetary scientists and the public have marveled at the incredible trove of observations it's been beaming back to Earth. Most often in the spotlight are the jaw-dropping closeups of
[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 5, 2011
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 5, 2011
That's COOL! Thanks Laurence -- Richard Kowalski Full Moon Photography IMCA #1081 --- On Fri, 3/4/11, Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org wrote: From: Michael Johnson mich...@rocksfromspace.org Subject: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 5, 2011 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Date: Friday, March 4, 2011, 9:49 PM http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_5_2011.html __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list __ Visit the Archives at http://www.meteoritecentral.com/mailing-list-archives.html Meteorite-list mailing list Meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com http://six.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/meteorite-list
Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download
The link for the GIANT tiff file is: http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/data/pr/tiff/wac_nearside.tif You probably used the link to the smaller one that I posted for people that wanted to see the picture but did not want to download the whole 549 Mb. Took me 48 minutes, but they were feeding it slowly. Likely to get faster as the night gets later, I would guess. Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 10:06 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download Thanks Sterling...so I probably don't have the HUGE one, since I'm on a simple broad-band connection. The pic a have is, maybe, three times the width of my 17 screen. Since this is probably a junior download, can you provide the link for the mega-big-one? Thanks! -Richard M - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download A five second download of 549 Mb of data would be a transfer rate of 112,435 Kb/s. If true, please send the name of your ISP and signup information... That's 878 Megabit/s, or just under a Gigabit/s. Gigabit Ethernet achieves these speeds, but only within its network. There are a few Gigabit Ethernet ISP's, but only a few. Google announced plans to operate an experimental Gigabit Ethernet ISP service last year, but nothing since (requires fiber optics or four loaded copper pairs). Fortunate fellow if that's what you got... Sterling K. Webb --- - Original Message - From: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net To: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net; lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download I downloaded the picture in less than five secondsdid I miss the HUGE one? - Original Message - From: Sterling K. Webb sterling_k_w...@sbcglobal.net To: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu; actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download As a passionate downloader with archives of downloaded material that exceed a total of three terabytes (but growing every day), I can tell you that speed at which you receive data is affected by a variety of factors of which ISP willingness is only one. I know the maximum rate my provider can and does supply me with, having done so consistently when allowed by the source, a hair under 4 Megabit/s (636 Kb/s). This download would take 14.7 minutes at that rate, but it's going to take (still downloading) about 48 minutes. Servers always parcel out downloads in a way to optimize their own performance to the demand and the nature of the requestor. For example, if I were the server at asu.edu, I would see to it that a requestor at lpl.arizona.edu got it as fast as he wanted it, like say, 1000 Kb/s or so. They correctly appraised that I was only worth 193 Kb/s... and they were right! And Pete, you can (or should be able to) use the computer for all other tasks (except a competing giant download). You don't have to suddenly become a single-tasker when downloading. Beautiful, isn't she? Those who don't want a giant download and would be satisfied with a good-sized jpeg under one Mb, can find it at: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap110303.html Sterling K. Webb - Original Message - From: lebof...@lpl.arizona.edu To: actionshoot...@carolina.rr.com Cc: meteoritelist meteoritelist meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] GIANT Lunar Download It took me less than 10 minutes and you will be limited by how fast your Internet provider download rate is (not what they claim). Great image. Larry I downloaded it last week and on Roadrunner it took 5 mins!! STuart. Pete Pete rsvp...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi, all, I suggest not trying to download unless you aren't needing your computer for a while. My computer is new, and it took about fifteen minutes. I think it is worth the time, if you appreciate our little buddy. Cheers, Pete http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/116932598.html A Half-Gigabyte
[meteorite-list] New Meteorite Men products
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION
Hi Jeff and listoids. As I read through this interesting thread, I wondered if anyone would mention VistaPrint. I had them print up some cards for me a couple years ago, with an amateur astronomer/meteorite collector business card on the front, and a meteorite specimen info label on the back I'm pretty happy with them.While in Tucson recently, I was pleasantly surprised to see that E.T. and Patrick had a very similar card, with the same stock artwork and general layout. Great minds think alike, right? ;^) I'm fairly certain no one will confuse me for E.T.! Linton Oh... I've got quite a few of the old paper Hupe labels, as well. Are they worth more now? g - Original Message - From: Jeff Kuyken i...@meteorites.com.au To: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net; Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hi Richard, Greg and all, I've got more than a few of those old handwritten paper ones Greg... does that mean I'm getting old?! ;-) Like Greg and probably most of us, I also evolved my cards over the first few years of collecting. The cards I use now are actually business cards from VistaPrint (www.vistaprint.com). They are sturdy and you can customise them how you want. They're also very cheap (or often even free) with a few dollars for shipping. I've printed onto them before but usually handwrite them now as I don't have to do a lot like a dealer and I also like the old personal touch of handwriting too. If you scroll to the bottom of this page, there is an example along with a few other cards maintaining the provenance for this piece: http://www.meteorites.com.au/features/watson.html Cheers, Jeff - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Montgomery rickm...@earthlink.net; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hi Richard M., Great question, I appreciate you asking but it is not necessary. If you buy an item from us or anyone and it comes with an ID card, I would say you can certainly say it is from whatever collection, museum or otherwise that it came from. We used to hand write most of the info on the ID's back in the day. If you have any of the white paper ones, that is getting real old school as far as our ID's go. We went to the more rigid parchment stock several years ago. Seems ID cards are an ever-evolving process for us. Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Montgomery Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:38 PM To: Greg Hupe ; Richard Kowalski ; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION List, I've always wondered if it were proper to offer provenence display cards in ebay listings. For instance, Greg and others, I've purchased a duplicate specimens from you over the past number of years, since someday when the necessity calls, I'll be able to sell one and keep the other for my collection. Can one say it's from the Hupe collection for example? I've felt that it is proper to ask first. What's proper? Also, reflecting on hand-written cards...I love them! - Original Message - From: Greg Hupe gmh...@centurylink.net To: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 5:53 PM Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hello Everyone! I always like the ID Card discussions over the years. I agree with those who like different styles of cards from the different 'personalities' of collectors and dealers. In fact, I use two different styles which are different in size as well. I use glossy business card stock for planetary and extremely rare types for a color ID card, and then I use just black ink on tan parchment stock for all other types. Since I have two different ID card styles, does that mean I have a split 'personality'?... probably!! ;-) Hope everyone has a great weekend!! Best Regards, Greg Greg Hupe The Hupe Collection gmh...@centurylink.net www.LunarRock.com IMCA 3163 -Original Message- From: Richard Kowalski Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:32 PM To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Cards SUGGESTION Hey all, As one who recently needed to come up with a design, I'm more of the opinion that cards reflect the personality of the person who produced it. I had gone through Sergey's pages some time ago. Thanks Anne for posting the link. For my own cards I went through the collection of cards I have accumulated building my own collection, picking out the four or five that had the features and details I
