Re: [meteorite-list] Sale Ad: Moapa Valley CM1 thin section and small .7 g piece on Ebay. 100% of proceeds to benefit Japan earthquake/tsunami relief efforts

2011-03-16 Thread karmaka

Hi Sonny,

that's a very honorable idea!

Martin


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efforts

Hi List,

I have just listed a Moapa Valley CM1 thin section and .7 gram fragment 
on Ebay. I will donate all proceeds  from these auctions to benefit 
Japanese earthquake/ tsunami relief efforts. I hope in some small way 
this will help the victims of this terrible disaster.


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130497937816#ht_500wt_1156


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=130497940095#ht_500wt_1156

Sonny
www.nevadameteorites.com
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[meteorite-list] AD-meteorite sale to aid Japan

2011-03-16 Thread Edwin Thompson

Hi Folks please help raise dollars for aid to Japan and put a falling star in 
your pocket for being generous!
We have put a gorgeous 91 gram complete and very pretty Oum Dreyga individual 
on Ebay and 100% of the sale goes to the Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief 
Fund. Please bid with a vengeance and try hard to pay a ridiculous price for 
this Space gem! As said in the description, if the bidding goes over $200.00 we 
will include a mint condition, first edition of 'Rocks From Space'. Please 
don't miss this opportunity to help others in need.
 
Sincere thanks, E.T. and Patrick
 
 
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=200587268988
 
 
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Caused the Daytona Beach Rogue Wavein1992?

2011-03-16 Thread Jeff Kuyken

Hi Mike, Chris, List,

Personally I think Chris hit the nail on the head when he said But 
realistically, a 10 meter object that was moving at hypervelocity all the 
way to the sea, and near shore, would have produced a massive fireball, 
rivaling the Sun, would have left a long lasting dust debris train, and 
would have been witnessed by thousands of people.


I'd assume that a large event like that would have also shown up all all 
sorts of monitoring points from satellites and/or radar to seismic stations 
too.


Cheers,

Jeff

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Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Caused the Daytona Beach Rogue 
Wavein1992?




Hi Chris and List,

I agree.  As the eyewitness account reads, it's impossible for such an
object to create a large wave.  However, if the account was in error
about the size of the object, then perhaps it becomes a little more
possible.

What about the velocity of the object?  Let us suppose that it
retained a good bit of it's cosmic velocity when it struck the water.
Would an object about 10-30 feet in diameter, travelling at a high
rate of speed (say, 1km per second), generate a large wave?  I would
think that the speed at impact would play a role in the effects once
it hit the water.

I think the underwater landslide theory is more plausible.  I was just
surprised to see an account about a meteorite in this story.

Best regards,

MikeG

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On 3/15/11, Chris Peterson c...@alumni.caltech.edu wrote:

A meteorite that was 1-3 meters across would make a splash, that's all. A
couple of hundred meters away and there'd be virtually no energy left.
There's almost no possibility of such an object creating a wave like the 
one

you describe (a tsunami, not a rogue wave).

Chris

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Subject: [meteorite-list] Meteorite Caused the Daytona Beach Rogue Wave
in1992?



Hi List,

All of this talk about the tsunami in Japan reminded me of an event
that happened here in Florida in 1992, that may have a meteorite
connection.

On July 3rd, 1992, a 20-foot rogue wave appeared out of nowhere (calm
weather) and washed ashore on Daytona Beach, damaging many vehicles
parked along the beach and causing scores of minor injuries -
thankfully there were no fatalities.  This event was big news down
here at the time, but has since faded into obscurity.

I did some digging on the event, to satisfy my own curiosity and I
came across an account that includes a possible meteorite fall.

Here is a quote from an eyewitness who was a boater that was offshore
at the time -

...the boater came forward with the information that, shortly before
the time of the wave, he was in his boat about eight miles offshore.
He watched as a distant object approached across the sky toward the
ocean at a high rate of speed, and crossed the bow of his boat at an
angle with a whoosh (his word). Shortly after, a giant swell made
his 41-foot sailboat handle like a large surfboard. Various news
sources state that the meteorite, as it is now being called, was
anywhere from a meter to 10 feet across. The boater who wished to
remain anonymous, gave the professors enough information so that they
are hoping that the Navy will retrieve the object, which is presumed
to be lying in about 70 feet of water off the Daytona Beach coastline,
with plenty of coordinates for locating it.

(source : http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf084/sf084g12.htm )

Does anyone remember this meteorite event?  And, did anyone look for
the object?  I know 70-feet of water is not exactly prime
meteorite-hunting territory, but one has to wonder what happened, in
light of the eyewitness account.

Best regards,

MikeG


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Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan ZIRCONIUM

2011-03-16 Thread Barrett
Hello Count, et al-
Just a quick comment here on something most people aren't aware of.

The facts are, as of a minute ago, that there has been no containment
vessel breach in any of the reactors. 
It is being reported that one of the containment vessels are cracked.


What has happened, is that some fuel rod assemblies have been damaged by
loss of coolant and resulting overtemp. They can melt into each other, but
they can't burn through the vessel, or start a fire, as there is no
graphite in the GE design. 

I don't know about THIS particular reactor, but. Almost ALL reactors use
ZIRCONIUM as the metal for the fuel rods and other various parts for the
reactors. ZIRCONIUM ignites easily and CAN NOT be put out by water. Water
just feeds it and produces hydrogen  oxygen (We already know about what
THAT does). I've been listen almost non-stop to FNN and CNN and I've yet to
hear anyone talking about this fact. While there are a few ways to put out a
zirconium fire, as long as the fuel rods themselves stay hot they really
don't stand a lot of chance of putting the fire out. Smothering a zirconium
metal fire with salt is one way to do it. The salt melts over the burning
zirconium and encapsulates it. Even with a relatively small amount of
zirconium, it takes a LONG time for it to smother and cool to safe levels.
Personally, I'd like to hear some of the nuclear engineers speak to this on
TV. FWIW- ZIRCONIUM is used by the Navy and Airforce in many incendiary
bombs. It burns so hot and furious that it burns right thru the steel on
heavily armored tanks and burns thru the cement used in bunkers. Zirconium
is the wildcard that everyone is overlooking here. If the zirconium catches
fire, it WILL melt and burn its way thru anything.

Try Googleing ZIRCONIUM METAL and WESTERN ZIRCONIUM in Ogden, UT and see for
yourself. It's nasty stuff when it ignites, but it's also the most corrosion
resistant metal known.
-Barrett


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[meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
Lets see now, exploding nuclear power plants and flash fires of spent fuel, 
no, I don't see anything to worry about there. Cesium-137 is actually good 
for you and builds strong bodies 12 different ways. I just had a bowl of it 
for breakfast. It was good, and it's good for you! Let's check back with the 
50 brave souls fighting the meltdowns in 3 months to see how they're 
feeling.


-
Phil Whitmer 


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Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan ZIRCONIUM

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Dunklee
This would all have been a mute point had the reactors been designed to 
separate the fuel rods by gravity in case of power loss. With cooling water fed 
by gravity with enough stored to last several days. Most reactors it seems use 
the same bad design. The water has to be pumped in. However due to this 
disaster it will lead to newer and safer designs. Cheers Steve

On Wed Mar 16th, 2011 3:50 AM EDT Barrett wrote:

Hello Count, et al-
Just a quick comment here on something most people aren't aware of.

The facts are, as of a minute ago, that there has been no containment
vessel breach in any of the reactors. 
It is being reported that one of the containment vessels are cracked.


What has happened, is that some fuel rod assemblies have been damaged by
loss of coolant and resulting overtemp. They can melt into each other, but
they can't burn through the vessel, or start a fire, as there is no
graphite in the GE design. 

I don't know about THIS particular reactor, but. Almost ALL reactors use
ZIRCONIUM as the metal for the fuel rods and other various parts for the
reactors. ZIRCONIUM ignites easily and CAN NOT be put out by water. Water
just feeds it and produces hydrogen  oxygen (We already know about what
THAT does). I've been listen almost non-stop to FNN and CNN and I've yet to
hear anyone talking about this fact. While there are a few ways to put out a
zirconium fire, as long as the fuel rods themselves stay hot they really
don't stand a lot of chance of putting the fire out. Smothering a zirconium
metal fire with salt is one way to do it. The salt melts over the burning
zirconium and encapsulates it. Even with a relatively small amount of
zirconium, it takes a LONG time for it to smother and cool to safe levels.
Personally, I'd like to hear some of the nuclear engineers speak to this on
TV. FWIW- ZIRCONIUM is used by the Navy and Airforce in many incendiary
bombs. It burns so hot and furious that it burns right thru the steel on
heavily armored tanks and burns thru the cement used in bunkers. Zirconium
is the wildcard that everyone is overlooking here. If the zirconium catches
fire, it WILL melt and burn its way thru anything.

Try Googleing ZIRCONIUM METAL and WESTERN ZIRCONIUM in Ogden, UT and see for
yourself. It's nasty stuff when it ignites, but it's also the most corrosion
resistant metal known.
-Barrett


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Re: [meteorite-list] Interesting Illinois Photos (Meteor?)

2011-03-16 Thread Mike Groetz
   There are (3) periods at the end of this URL- seems that directly
clicking on it does not pick them up.
   You may need to copy/paste. Sorry for the problems.
Mike G

http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/news/crosby/4259193-418/ufo-in-oswego-youve-gotta-see-it-to-believe-it-...

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 -Original Message-
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 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mike
 Groetz
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:36 PM
 To: Meteorite List
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Interesting Illinois Photos (Meteor?)

 Hi List-
   The article seems a bit goofy- but the photos that accompany it are
 interesting. I wish the resolution would been a bit better though.

 http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/4242257-417/ufo-over-oswego-youve-gotta-see-i
 t-to-believe-it-...

   Everyone have a good night.

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[meteorite-list] February issue METEORITE

2011-03-16 Thread Meteorite-Recon.com

 
Friends,
 
a brand new February 2011 issue of METEORITE just arrived at the doorstep. ‘Good
stuff’, as a friend of mine says, and excellently put together by the editors
Derek Sears and Robert Beauford.
 
Of the many brilliant and entertaining contributions I may point your attention
to the article on The Remarkable and Primitive NWA 5717 by our esteemed list
member Darryl Pitt. Not only does the text include a thorough description of the
most intriguing lithology and petrography of this super rare type 3.05
chondrite, but also contains breathtaking macro and electron microscopy photos
of the exterior and special features of this meteorite.
 
I still haven't read the Tale of Bonita Springs H5, the 'Meteorite under the
Mango Tree' by Kevin Kichinka, but looking forward to do so.
 
Hats off to the editors and authors of this issue.
 
Cheers
 
Svend

P.S.: Concerning the current OT-discussion I may add that my thoughts and
prayers are with the Japanese people. While mourning the deaths of perhaps as
much as ten thousand souls from the initial quake and subsequent tsunami, and
with a previously densely populated coast now totally devastated, leaving
hundred thousands homeless, it appears comprehensible that some consider the
current reduction of the disaster on Fukushima in western media and politics as
out of proportion.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Interesting Illinois Photos (Meteor?)

2011-03-16 Thread actionshooting
That is some interesting photos.

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Lawndale, NC 


 Mike Groetz mpg4...@gmail.com wrote: 

=
   There are (3) periods at the end of this URL- seems that directly
clicking on it does not pick them up.
   You may need to copy/paste. Sorry for the problems.
Mike G

http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/news/crosby/4259193-418/ufo-in-oswego-youve-gotta-see-it-to-believe-it-...

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Barrett barret...@comcast.net wrote:
 Beacon NewsError - Page Not Found
 The page you have requested could not be found.



 -Original Message-
 From: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] On Behalf Of Mike
 Groetz
 Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:36 PM
 To: Meteorite List
 Subject: [meteorite-list] Interesting Illinois Photos (Meteor?)

 Hi List-
   The article seems a bit goofy- but the photos that accompany it are
 interesting. I wish the resolution would been a bit better though.

 http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/4242257-417/ufo-over-oswego-youve-gotta-see-i
 t-to-believe-it-...

   Everyone have a good night.

 Mike G.
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[meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Michael Johnson
http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2011.html



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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Alexander Seidel
 http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2011.html


Wow, drop-dead gorgeous, and very exceptional with 
that special provenance!

Alex
Berlin/Germany
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Gary Fujihara
Congratulations Dr Mignon on your acquisition of a beautiful specimen of 
Sikhote Alin.  The label I would interpret as 0098 because the lower loop of 
the number 8 type is usually larger than the upper one in typewriters during 
that time period, even if it does not jive with Fesenkov  Krinov SA catalog.

gary

On Mar 16, 2011, at 4:01 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:

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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread The Tricottet Collection

First thank you all for your nice comments.

Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters. You can 
see for example that they used the letter I instead of the number 1 for 
that specimen: 
http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg
Or maybe the 8 is stretched because of the soft sticker.

Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses.

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 From: fuj...@mac.com
 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 05:02:47 -1000
 To: mich...@rocksfromspace.org
 CC: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 
 2011
 
 Congratulations Dr Mignon on your acquisition of a beautiful specimen of 
 Sikhote Alin.  The label I would interpret as 0098 because the lower loop of 
 the number 8 type is usually larger than the upper one in typewriters during 
 that time period, even if it does not jive with Fesenkov  Krinov SA catalog.
 
 gary
 
 On Mar 16, 2011, at 4:01 AM, Michael Johnson wrote:
 
  http://www.rocksfromspace.org/March_16_2011.html
  
  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Alexander Seidel

 Congratulations Dr Mignon on your acquisition of a beautiful specimen of
 Sikhote Alin.  The label I would interpret as 0098 because the lower 
 loop of the number 8 type is usually larger than the upper one in 
 typewriters during that time period, even if it does not jive with


I concur with your argument, Gary! It also makes sense on the grounds that the 
label is placed on the meteorite in such a way that you can read the number 
more comfortably this way than turning the meteorite and reading the number the 
other way around... 

But your argument with loopsizes for the 8 is still stronger! :-)

Alex
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[meteorite-list] OT- TEPCO Press Release

2011-03-16 Thread Barrett
  
Press Release (Mar 16,2011)
Impact to TEPCO's Facilities due to Tohoku-Taiheiyou-Oki Earthquake (as of
2:00PM)  
 

Below is the status of TEPCO's major facilities that suffered from the 
Tohoku-Taiheiyou-Oki Earthquake that occurred at 2:46PM, March 11th 2011.
*new items are underlined

[Nuclear Power Station]
Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station:
 Units 1 to 3: shutdown due to earthquake
 Units 4 to 6: outage due to regular inspection at the occurrence of 
   earthquake 

*The national government has instructed to evacuate for those local 
 residents within 20km radius of the site periphery and to remain 
 indoors for those local residents within 30km radius of the site 
 periphery.

*Since the value of radioactive materials (iodine, etc) at the site 
 (outside) measured by monitoring car exceeded the ordinary level, 
 it was determined that a specific incident stipulated in article 15, 
 clause 1 occurred (Extraordinary increase of radiation dose at site 
 boundary). 
 - 4:17 pm, March 15th at the main gate of the site
 - 11:05 pm, March 15th at the main gate of the site

* Unit 1
 The explosive sound and white smoke was confirmed near Unit 1 after 
 the big quake occurred at 3:36pm, March 12th. We have started sea 
 water injection at 8:20 pm and then boric acid into the reactor. 

*Unit 2
 At 1:25 pm, March 14th, since the Reactor Core Isolation Cooling System 
 has failed, it was determined that a specific incident stipulated in 
 article 15, clause 1 occurred (failure of reactor cooling function).
 At 5:17 pm, while the water level in the reactor reached the top of the 
 fuel rod, we have restarted the water injection with the valve operation. 
 At approximately 6:14 am, March 15th, the extraordinary sound was 
 confirmed near the suppression chamber and the pressure inside the 
 chamber decreased afterwards. It was determined that there is a 
 possibility that something extraordinary happened in the suppression 
 chamber. While sea water injection to the reactor continued, TEPCO 
 employees and workers from other companies not in charge of injection 
 work started tentative evacuation to a safe location.
 Sea water injection to the reactor is still under operation. 

*Unit 3
 At 6:50 am, March 14th, while water injection to the reactor was under 
 operation, the pressure in the reactor containment vessel increased to 
 530 kPa. As a result, at 7:44 am, it was determined that a specific 
 incident stipulated in article 15, clause 1 occurred (abnormal increase 
 of the pressure of reactor containment vessel). Afterwards, the pressure 
 has gradually decreased (as of 9:05 am, 450 kPa). 

 At approximately 11:01 am, March 14th, an explosion followed by white 
 smoke occurred near Unit 3. 4 TEPCO employees and 3 workers from other 
 companies (all of them are conscious) have sustained injuries and they 
 were already dispatched to the hospital by ambulances. 

*Unit 4
 At approximately 6:00 am, March 15th, an explosive sound occurred and 
 the damage in the 5th floor roof of Unit 4 reactor building was 
 confirmed. At 9:38 am, the fire near the north-west part of 4th floor 
 of Unit 4 reactor building was confirmed. At approximately 11:00 am, 
 TEPCO employee confirmed that the fire was off. 

 At approximately 5:45 am, a TEPCO employee discovered a fire at the
 northwest corner of the Nuclear Reactor Building. TEPCO immediately
 reported this incident to the fire department and the local government
 and prepared to extinguish the fire. However, during an inspection at
 approximately 6:15 am, TEPCO staff found no signs of fire.

Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station:
 Units 1 to 4: shutdown due to earthquake
*The national government has instructed evacuation for those local 
 residents within 10km radius of the periphery.

*As the radiation dose at the site boundary exceeded the limitation, 
 it was determined that a specific incident stipulated in article 15, 
 clause 1 occurred (Extraordinary increase of radiation dose at site 
 boundary) at 9:58 pm, March 14th and at 0:00 am, March 15th.

*Reactor cooling function was restored and cooling of rectors was 
 conducted. As a result, all reactors achieved cold shutdown: Unit 1 
 at 5:00 pm, March 14th, Unit 2 at 6:00 pm, March 14th, Unit 3 at 
 0:15 pm, March 12th, Unit 4 at 7:15 am, March 15th.

* (Unit 1)
 As it is confirmed that the temperature of the Emergency Equipment
 Cooling Water System *1 has increased, at 3:20 pm, March 15th, we
 stopped the Residual Heat Removal System (B) for the inspection.
 Subsequently, failure was detected in the power supply facility
 associated with the pumps of the Emergency Equipment Cooling Water
 System. At 4:25 pm, March 15th, after replacing the power facility,
 the pumps and the Residual Heat Removal System (B) have been
 reactivated.

* (Unit 4)
 As it is confirmed that the pressure at the outlet of the pumps of
 the Emergency Equipment Cooling Water System*1 has been decreased,
 at 8:05 pm, 

Re: [meteorite-list] AD-meteorite sale to aid Japan

2011-03-16 Thread wahlperry

Hi, E.T. and Patrick,

Way to go!

Thanks,
Sonny


-Original Message-
From: Edwin Thompson etmeteori...@hotmail.com
To: meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Tue, Mar 15, 2011 8:24 pm
Subject: [meteorite-list] AD-meteorite sale to aid Japan


Hi Folks please help raise dollars for aid to Japan and put a falling 
star in your pocket for being generous!We have put a gorgeous 91 gram 
complete and very pretty Oum Dreyga individual on Ebay and 100% of the 
sale goes to the Japan Earthquake and Tsunami Relief Fund. Please bid 
with a vengeance and try hard to pay a ridiculous price for this Space 
gem! As said in the description, if the bidding goes over $200.00 we 
will include a mint condition, first edition of 'Rocks From Space'. 
Please don't miss this opportunity to help others in need. Sincere 
thanks, E.T. and Patrick  
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Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Brian Cox

Dear Count,

Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather 
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see 
straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.


I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you 
mentioned in your post  I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday 
on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're 
intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard 
Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people 
that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS 
or MSNBC my local stations.


There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the 
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a 
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given 
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the 
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. 
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person 
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to 
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a 
reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced 
network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a 
worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the 
minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill 
O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call 
themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, 
LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS!


I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and 
the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their 
bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a 
station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every 
morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance.


Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that 
station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free 
speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update.


Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to your 
posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news..


All my best!

Brian 


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Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread fallingfusion
Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable. 

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45 
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Dear Count,

Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather 
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see 
straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.

I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you 
mentioned in your post  I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday 
on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're 
intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard 
Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people 
that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS 
or MSNBC my local stations.

There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the 
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a 
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given 
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the 
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. 
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person 
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to 
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a 
reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced 
network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a 
worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the 
minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill 
O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call 
themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC, 
LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS!

I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and 
the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their 
bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a 
station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every 
morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance.

Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that 
station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free 
speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update.

Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to your 
posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news..

All my best!

Brian 

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[meteorite-list] (AD) Way Off Topic...I'm selling Gold Nuggets on Ebay

2011-03-16 Thread GeoZay


Well...this is way off topic, but since  this is my very first AD of any 
kind to this list, I think I'm good for one shot  here considering all the 
other abuses. :O) I just want to say that I began a  couple weeks ago selling 
off my natural gold nugget collection on ebay. My  seller name is deanazay 
. I'm selling 4 nuggets each weekend. Sorry, but I'm  selling only to people 
in the USA.

The history of the nuggets I'm  selling...I bought these nuggets off of 
ebay 4 or 5 years ago, using the money I  got after selling the fine gold I 
dredged up in the Yuba Rivers in northern  California. Its a lot easier to sell 
natural nuggets than the melted down  bullion I made from the fine stuff. I 
bought gold nuggets from all  over...California, Nevada, Idaho, Georgia, 
Alaska and Australia primarily. I've  acquired sizes from 1 gram up to 8 
grams. Got some river worn nuggets as well as  nice cryatalline nuggets. I'll 
probably be selling nuggets for the next couple  months at least.

Have a looksy if interested.  Thanks.

http://shop.ebay.com/deanazay/m.html?_trksid=p4340.l2562

George  Zay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and othe...

2011-03-16 Thread LITIG8NSHARK
Good afternoon Brian, Folks,

Brian, your  politically oriented diatribe is entirely inappropriate for 
posting to the Met  list, is disrespectful to those who may have equally 
legitimate, differing  opinions, and shows both your ignorance and your 
intransigent character.   Your First Amendment argument is perhaps better 
suited for 
the courtroom, next  time someone sues you for defamation.

Paul Martyn,
Savannah,  GA

In a message dated 3/16/2011 12:24:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net writes:
Dear Count,

Thanks for the  information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the 
weather 
today and at  home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely 
see 
straight or  type and the light hurts my eyes.

I've always thought of you as an  intelligent man and still do, but when 
you 
mentioned in your post  I was  shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener 
yesterday 
on Fox. I thought why is he  watching that station. I still believe you're 
intelligent, but it took me a  minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard 
Smith was, and then it clicked  he was on that station with the angry 
people 
that are always yelling, since  I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or 
PBS 
or MSNBC my local  stations.

There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just  caught the 
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends  and a 
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are  given 
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down  the 
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out.  
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person  
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to  
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a  
reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced  
network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a  
worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the 
 
minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill  
O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call  
themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, 
HOMOPHOBIC,  
LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS!

I understand you were making a comment towards  that Sheppard character, 
and 
the crap he was spewing out to scare the  viewers into running towards 
their 
bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to  build. Here's hoping you find a 
station that has real News, not one that  they give talking points on every 
morning and are asked to follow and preach  the gospel of ignorance.

Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just  because I don't like that 
station or their beliefs. It's a free country and  I'm entitled to my free 
speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the  Count for his update.

Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate  and look forward to 
your 
posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope  for happier news..

All my best!

Brian  

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[meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Brian Cox
Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing 
me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago, 
but won't be buying from HIM anymore..


-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk 
and others are ok


.. I take it that's a no.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Have you taken your medication today?

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:57 AM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Dear Count,

Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see
straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.

I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you
mentioned in your post  I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday
on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're
intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard
Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people
that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS
or MSNBC my local stations.

There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out.
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a
reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced
network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a
worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the
minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill
O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call
themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC,
LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS!

I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and
the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their
bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a
station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every
morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance.

Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that
station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free
speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update.

Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to your
posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news..

All my best!

Brian

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread fallingfusion
The only thing I'll say is that this guy is a complete nutcase. I apologize to 
the list on his behalf.

Ryan

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:49:52 
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw:  8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing 
me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago, 
but won't be buying from HIM anymore..

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk 
and others are ok

... I take it that's a no.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Have you taken your medication today?

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:57 AM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Dear Count,

Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see
straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.

I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you
mentioned in your post  I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday
on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're
intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard
Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people
that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS
or MSNBC my local stations.

There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out.
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a
reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced
network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a
worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the
minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill
O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call
themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC,
LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS!

I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and
the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their
bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a
station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every
morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance.

Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that
station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free
speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update.

Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to your
posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news..

All my best!

Brian

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Brian Cox
Thank you Dr. Ryan of Falling Fusion, but I beg to differ since you are the 
one that wrote to me and started on your diatribe about disliking my 
politics. So, in typical republican fashion you have twisted the truth all 
around to fit it so that you make yourself sound better. See, Faux Noise has 
taught you something.


Let's see who believes me and who believes you, since if you want to play 
this game. I'm all up for it!


Thanks,

Brian

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope 
Dirk and others are ok


The only thing I'll say is that this guy is a complete nutcase. I apologize 
to the list on his behalf.


Ryan

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:49:52
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw:  8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing
me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago,
but won't be buying from HIM anymore..

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

... I take it that's a no.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Have you taken your medication today?

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:57 AM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Dear Count,

Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see
straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.

I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you
mentioned in your post  I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday
on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're
intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard
Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people
that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS
or MSNBC my local stations.

There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out.
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a
reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced
network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a
worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the
minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill
O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call
themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, HOMOPHOBIC,
LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS!

I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, and
the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards their
bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you find a
station that has real News, not one that they give talking points on every
morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of ignorance.

Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that
station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free
speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his 

[meteorite-list] New Episode of 'Insights on Meteorites on the Sikhote Alin

2011-03-16 Thread McCartney Taylor
The 3rd episode of Insights on Meteorites has been released.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOR7jOk4ZC0


Finally the answer to the question, how do you pronounce the #@#$
thing? and other juicy tidbits...


-mt

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[meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
Ryan, you've been called out. Are you now or have you ever been a member of 
the Republican Party? ;-)


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Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Rob Holcomb

Oops, sorry I must be in the wrong group. Please keep it civil.
Rob H

--
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:24 AM
To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk 
and others are ok



Dear Count,

Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the 
weather today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can 
barely see straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.


I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when 
you mentioned in your post  I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener 
yesterday on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still 
believe you're intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the 
heck Sheppard Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with 
the angry people that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg 
News or CNN or PBS or MSNBC my local stations.


There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the 
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a 
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given 
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the 
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out. 
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person 
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to 
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a 
reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced 
network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a 
worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot 
the minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill 
O'Really, sean hannity and glen becKKK. There's a reason they call 
themselves The Tea Party, because it sounds nicer than RACIST, 
HOMOPHOBIC, LOW WAGE REPUBLICANS!


I understand you were making a comment towards that Sheppard character, 
and the crap he was spewing out to scare the viewers into running towards 
their bunkers that glen becKKK has told them to build. Here's hoping you 
find a station that has real News, not one that they give talking points 
on every morning and are asked to follow and preach the gospel of 
ignorance.


Don't everyone get your feathers ruffled just because I don't like that 
station or their beliefs. It's a free country and I'm entitled to my free 
speech. I'm just making a point and thanking the Count for his update.


Thanks again for the update and I always appreciate and look forward to 
your posts. Now I'll have to watch a little TV and hope for happier news..


All my best!

Brian
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Brian Cox

Is that a threat??

Glad I sold it and made some money, even though you got a cheap price on it. 
So, what is your problem writing me and complaining to me? are you coming to 
visit me? Gonna kill me or just beat me up?


-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope 
Dirk and others are ok


Just keep in mind, I still have your address from that Agoult slice that I 
bought from you. Boystown, Chicago... correct?


Glad I saved it.

And by the way, I'm not a Republican. That's what happens you're crabby and 
assume things.


Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:00:44
To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com; 
meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; 
Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw:  8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope 
Dirk and others are ok


Thank you Dr. Ryan of Falling Fusion, but I beg to differ since you are the
one that wrote to me and started on your diatribe about disliking my
politics. So, in typical republican fashion you have twisted the truth all
around to fit it so that you make yourself sound better. See, Faux Noise has
taught you something.

Let's see who believes me and who believes you, since if you want to play
this game. I'm all up for it!

Thanks,

Brian

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope
Dirk and others are ok

The only thing I'll say is that this guy is a complete nutcase. I apologize
to the list on his behalf.

Ryan

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:49:52
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw:  8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing
me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago,
but won't be buying from HIM anymore..

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

 I take it that's a no.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Have you taken your medication today?

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:57 AM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Dear Count,

Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see
straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.

I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you
mentioned in your post  I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday
on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're
intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard
Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people
that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS
or MSNBC my local stations.

There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out.
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on 

[meteorite-list] Oman prison saga

2011-03-16 Thread valparint
I got home from an Internet-free trip last night and just read Mike's story. 
Cripes - we live in Disneyland by comparison.

Mike, Robert - I'm glad your back in one piece and I hope the nightmares aren't 
too bad.

Paul Swartz
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT was Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Steve Dunklee
please change the subject when going OT. I don't mind OT and have been there 
myself. I Am a Republican Tea party card carrying member and take offence at 
the racist steroetyping of our group. I like Obamma as a Father  and family man 
and his wanting universal healthcare is noble. This country makes enough money 
to take care of the needs of everyone without cramming insurance on everyone. 
The GNP is large enough for a 4% flat sales tax on all stock market sales to 
increase government income. Slow future speculation. Eliminate income tax. Cut 
costs for the IRS. And put money back in the pockets of the lower classes. To 
stimulate growth in our economy. As an additional note for the homophobes out 
there. I have many black asian ect friends who live alternative life styles. If 
i wasnt paying nearly 50% of my income in taxes I could afford to buy more 
meteorites! Cheers Steve

On Wed Mar 16th, 2011 2:08 PM EDT JoshuaTreeMuseum wrote:

Ryan, you've been called out. Are you now or have you ever been a member of 
the Republican Party? ;-)

--
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread fallingfusion
Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't even reply back... but editing and 
forging emails and reposting them to a public forum is a big no-no. Doing such 
activities could land you in legal trouble in situations other than this 
unimportant tirade of yours.

Please remind me to never reply to any of your ridiculous emails in the future.

Regards,

Ryan Pawelski
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:00:44 
To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com; 
Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw:  8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope 
Dirk and others are ok

Thank you Dr. Ryan of Falling Fusion, but I beg to differ since you are the 
one that wrote to me and started on your diatribe about disliking my 
politics. So, in typical republican fashion you have twisted the truth all 
around to fit it so that you make yourself sound better. See, Faux Noise has 
taught you something.

Let's see who believes me and who believes you, since if you want to play 
this game. I'm all up for it!

Thanks,

Brian

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope 
Dirk and others are ok

The only thing I'll say is that this guy is a complete nutcase. I apologize 
to the list on his behalf.

Ryan

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:49:52
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw:  8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing
me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago,
but won't be buying from HIM anymore..

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:30 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

 I take it that's a no.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Have you taken your medication today?

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®


-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:57 AM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk
and others are ok

Wow. Great job at keeping politics off the list. You guys are unbelievable.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:24:45
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Dear Count,

Thanks for the information on the situation in Japan. I'm under the weather
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see
straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.

I've always thought of you as an intelligent man and still do, but when you
mentioned in your post  I was shocked at Sheppard Smith's opener yesterday
on Fox. I thought why is he watching that station. I still believe you're
intelligent, but it took me a minute to figure out, who the heck Sheppard
Smith was, and then it clicked he was on that station with the angry people
that are always yelling, since I watch CNBC or Bloomberg News or CNN or PBS
or MSNBC my local stations.

There is such mindless drivel on Faux noise. I'm sure you just caught the
story while flipping channels to get the latest. I've had friends and a
relative that worked for Faux and I know that each morning they are given
Talk Points and told to try to stay on point to try and grind down the
viewers into believing every bit of yellow journalism they can spew out.
It's their mission to make every viewer and especially every white person
hate Obama and want him impeached, just like they did with Clinton and to
push their right-wing republican viewpoint on their viewers. There's a
reason that most intelligent people call it the Unfair and Unbalanced
network and also call it Faux Noise Channel and FUX noise it's a
worthless cesspool of right-wing conservative propaganda written to rot the
minds of those that are transfixed by the smell of imbeciles like bill

[meteorite-list] New Episode of 'Insights on Meteorites on the Sikhote Alin

2011-03-16 Thread Bernd V. Pauli
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOR7jOk4ZC0

Hello McCartney and List,

Just back from watching the Mr Spock interview and the documentary
material on the Sikhote-Alin meteorite fall back in 1947, February 12.

Thank you for sharing!
I really enjoyed it!

Bernd


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Re: [meteorite-list] New Episode of 'Insights on Meteorites on the Sikhote Alin

2011-03-16 Thread Gary Fujihara
I enjoyed it as well, great job MT, of getting Slava to speak on camera of the 
SA meteorite and strewnfield.  Not so great to hear of the latter's depletion 
in recent years.

gary

On Mar 16, 2011, at 9:03 AM, Bernd V. Pauli wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOR7jOk4ZC0
 
 Hello McCartney and List,
 
 Just back from watching the Mr Spock interview and the documentary
 material on the Sikhote-Alin meteorite fall back in 1947, February 12.
 
 Thank you for sharing!
 I really enjoyed it!
 
 Bernd
 
 
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http://bigkahuna-meteorites.com/
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[meteorite-list] New Episode of 'Insights on Meteorites on the Sikhote Alin

2011-03-16 Thread Shawn Alan
Hello McCartney and Listers,
 
MT great job with the Sikhote Alin meteorite and I have to say this was my 
first meteorite in my collection. I enjoy the videos you post and look forward 
to seeing more this year :)
 
 
Shawn Alan 
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eBaystore 
http://shop.ebay.com/photophlow/m.html 


 
 
 
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AlinMcCartney Taylor mccartney at blackbearddata.com 
Wed Mar 16 14:05:03 EDT 2011 


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[meteorite-list] MESSENGER On Autopilot for Orbit Insertion

2011-03-16 Thread Ron Baalke

http://messenger.jhuapl.edu/news_room/details.php?id=160

MESSENGER Mission News
March 16, 2011

MESSENGER On Autopilot for Orbit Insertion

MESSENGER is now on autopilot, faithfully executing a detailed set of
instructions required to achieve its historic rendezvous with Mercury
tomorrow night.

At 8 a.m. Tuesday, all attitude re-orientations planned to control the
probe's momentum accumulation and adjust its trajectory were
successfully completed. MESSENGER turned to point its high-gain antenna
back to Earth for the final stretch of continuous data monitoring until
just before the start of Mercury orbit insertion.

The operations team at the Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics
Laboratory (APL), in Laurel, Md., has monitored on-board commanded
vehicle re-configurations and has sent pre-defined ground commands to
establish configurations for the burn.

The science instrument suite has recorded the last set of data for the
cruise portion of the mission, and all instruments have been turned off.
Although not in an operational mode, the Gamma-Ray Spectrometer has been
left in its stand-by mode to ensure thermal stability of the delicate
cryogenic cooler. The instruments will be tuned back on as part of
orbital commissioning beginning on March 23.

The navigation team is reporting that there has been little change from
the previous targeting estimates, so the spacecraft is on the
glide-slope for final approach to Mercury, says MESSENGER Systems
Engineer Eric Finnegan.



MESSENGER (MErcury Surface, Space ENvironment, GEochemistry, and
Ranging) is a NASA-sponsored scientific investigation of the planet
Mercury and the first space mission designed to orbit the planet closest
to the Sun. The MESSENGER spacecraft launched on August 3, 2004, and
after flybys of Earth, Venus, and Mercury will start a yearlong study of
its target planet in March 2011. Dr. Sean C. Solomon, of the Carnegie
Institution of Washington, leads the mission as Principal Investigator.
The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory built and operates
the MESSENGER spacecraft and manages this Discovery-class mission for NASA.
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[meteorite-list] Subject Line management

2011-03-16 Thread Michael Bross

Dear all

I have never seen such anarchy in dealing with the Subject Line
on any forum or list, past or present !

Please, DO change the subject line when really altering
the context of previous messages... and try to avoid changing
it when NOT really altering the context.


3-4 different threads about Japan's Tsunami etc...
and now, some of them getting totally OT, or else...

It is s annoying.
Thanks !

Michael B.
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[meteorite-list] Fw: Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Brian Cox
You are a character Ryan, you sent me a different email after you took out 
the part about saying you have my address and you saying you were glad you 
saved it.  Then you are saying that I am editing and forging emails. No, no, 
no Ryan Pawelski, you removed your text, but I already responded to your 
comment about having my address. This is what I responded to earlier, where 
I asked you, Ryan ,Is that a threat? , so then you take that portion out 
and send it to the Met List.


It would be best if you stop writing me and stop writing the list and you 
should have just kept your fingers off the keys and minded your own business 
and then you wouldn't have gotten into this discussion, now would you.


-Original Message- 
From: Brian Cox

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:28 PM
To: Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope
Dirk and others are ok


(I asked you here Ryan)

Is that a threat??

Glad I sold it and made some money, even though you got a cheap price on it.
So, what is your problem writing me and complaining to me? are you coming to
visit me? Gonna kill me or just beat me up?

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:22 PM
To: Brian Cox
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope
Dirk and others are ok

Just keep in mind, I still have your address from that Agoult slice that I
bought from you. Boystown, Chicago... correct?

Glad I saved it.

And by the way, I'm not a Republican. That's what happens you're crabby and
assume things.

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®



-Original Message- 
From: Brian Cox

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:55 PM
To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope
Dirk and others are ok

I am hereby reminding you to never reply to any of my emails, but apparently
you don't listen or haven't figured that out.

-Original Message- 
From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 1:54 PM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope
Dirk and others are ok

Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't even reply back... but editing and
forging emails and reposting them to a public forum is a big no-no. Doing
such activities could land you in legal trouble in situations other than
this unimportant tirade of yours.

Please remind me to never reply to any of your ridiculous emails in the
future.

Regards,

Ryan Pawelski
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Brian Cox searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 13:00:44
To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com;
meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com;
Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw:  8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope
Dirk and others are ok

Thank you Dr. Ryan of Falling Fusion, but I beg to differ since you are the
one that wrote to me and started on your diatribe about disliking my
politics. So, in typical republican fashion you have twisted the truth all
around to fit it so that you make yourself sound better. See, Faux Noise has
taught you something.

Let's see who believes me and who believes you, since if you want to play
this game. I'm all up for it!

Thanks,

Brian

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From: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:54 PM
To: Brian Cox ; meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com ; Meteorite-list
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope
Dirk and others are ok

The only thing I'll say is that this guy is a complete nutcase. I apologize
to the list on his behalf.

Ryan

Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 12:49:52
To: Meteorite-listmeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw:  8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Does anyone know the REAL name of this Guy in Wisconsin that keep emailing
me, as only FallingFusion. I think I bought meteorites from him years ago,
but won't be buying from HIM anymore..

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and others are ok

 I take it that's a no.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 12:14 PM
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and others are ok

Have you taken your medication today?

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Re: [meteorite-list] OT- TEPCO Press Release

2011-03-16 Thread Count Deiro
Excellent post. It's about time the qualified professionals at TEPCO released a 
verifiable synopsis of what actually happened at the Fukushima installation. 
They included a quantitive report for their complete system. Those buttheads in 
the media and the anti-nukers will still demagogue this incident for their own 
self interest. But, the fact remainsthe operators and the plants performed 
magnificently under the most severe physical circumstances that could be 
imagined. Now, maybe the press will turn its attention to the horrendous loss 
of life and property caused by the real dangersearthquake and tsunami.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536  


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From: Barrett barret...@comcast.net
Sent: Mar 16, 2011 8:27 AM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] OT- TEPCO Press Release

  
Press Release (Mar 16,2011)
Impact to TEPCO's Facilities due to Tohoku-Taiheiyou-Oki Earthquake (as of
2:00PM)  
 

Below is the status of TEPCO's major facilities that suffered from the 
Tohoku-Taiheiyou-Oki Earthquake that occurred at 2:46PM, March 11th 2011.
*new items are underlined

[Nuclear Power Station]
Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Station:
 Units 1 to 3: shutdown due to earthquake
 Units 4 to 6: outage due to regular inspection at the occurrence of 
   earthquake 

*The national government has instructed to evacuate for those local 
 residents within 20km radius of the site periphery and to remain 
 indoors for those local residents within 30km radius of the site 
 periphery.

*Since the value of radioactive materials (iodine, etc) at the site 
 (outside) measured by monitoring car exceeded the ordinary level, 
 it was determined that a specific incident stipulated in article 15, 
 clause 1 occurred (Extraordinary increase of radiation dose at site 
 boundary). 
 - 4:17 pm, March 15th at the main gate of the site
 - 11:05 pm, March 15th at the main gate of the site

* Unit 1
 The explosive sound and white smoke was confirmed near Unit 1 after 
 the big quake occurred at 3:36pm, March 12th. We have started sea 
 water injection at 8:20 pm and then boric acid into the reactor. 

*Unit 2
 At 1:25 pm, March 14th, since the Reactor Core Isolation Cooling System 
 has failed, it was determined that a specific incident stipulated in 
 article 15, clause 1 occurred (failure of reactor cooling function).
 At 5:17 pm, while the water level in the reactor reached the top of the 
 fuel rod, we have restarted the water injection with the valve operation. 
 At approximately 6:14 am, March 15th, the extraordinary sound was 
 confirmed near the suppression chamber and the pressure inside the 
 chamber decreased afterwards. It was determined that there is a 
 possibility that something extraordinary happened in the suppression 
 chamber. While sea water injection to the reactor continued, TEPCO 
 employees and workers from other companies not in charge of injection 
 work started tentative evacuation to a safe location.
 Sea water injection to the reactor is still under operation. 

*Unit 3
 At 6:50 am, March 14th, while water injection to the reactor was under 
 operation, the pressure in the reactor containment vessel increased to 
 530 kPa. As a result, at 7:44 am, it was determined that a specific 
 incident stipulated in article 15, clause 1 occurred (abnormal increase 
 of the pressure of reactor containment vessel). Afterwards, the pressure 
 has gradually decreased (as of 9:05 am, 450 kPa). 

 At approximately 11:01 am, March 14th, an explosion followed by white 
 smoke occurred near Unit 3. 4 TEPCO employees and 3 workers from other 
 companies (all of them are conscious) have sustained injuries and they 
 were already dispatched to the hospital by ambulances. 

*Unit 4
 At approximately 6:00 am, March 15th, an explosive sound occurred and 
 the damage in the 5th floor roof of Unit 4 reactor building was 
 confirmed. At 9:38 am, the fire near the north-west part of 4th floor 
 of Unit 4 reactor building was confirmed. At approximately 11:00 am, 
 TEPCO employee confirmed that the fire was off. 

 At approximately 5:45 am, a TEPCO employee discovered a fire at the
 northwest corner of the Nuclear Reactor Building. TEPCO immediately
 reported this incident to the fire department and the local government
 and prepared to extinguish the fire. However, during an inspection at
 approximately 6:15 am, TEPCO staff found no signs of fire.

Fukushima Daini Nuclear Power Station:
 Units 1 to 4: shutdown due to earthquake
*The national government has instructed evacuation for those local 
 residents within 10km radius of the periphery.

*As the radiation dose at the site boundary exceeded the limitation, 
 it was determined that a specific incident stipulated in article 15, 
 clause 1 occurred (Extraordinary increase of radiation dose at site 
 boundary) at 9:58 pm, March 14th and at 0:00 am, March 15th.

*Reactor cooling function was restored and cooling of rectors was 
 

[meteorite-list] Nasa builds meteor-tracking 'Fireball Network'

2011-03-16 Thread Thunder Stone


List:
 
Now this sounds interesting.
 
Greg S.
 
 
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/16/nasa-fireball-network
 
 
US space agency Nasa is planning to cover the United States with cameras facing 
upward to track meteorites as they enter the atmosphere.
The scheme, which has been named the All-sky Fireball Network will allow 
researchers to triangulate observations of space rocks to try and figure out 
where they're going to land, making them easier to recover. It's entirely 
automated -- computers scan the images received to try and work out which 
objects are meteors, and then send any positive results to Nasa, which puts 
them on the web.
The network currently consists of just three cameras -- in the US states of 
Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee. Nasa's William Cooke, head of the agency's 
Meteoroid Environment Office, hopes to expand that to 15 cameras across the 
eastern half of the US, and is talking to schools, planetariums and science 
centres to host them. If someone calls me and asks 'What was that?' I'll be 
able to tell them, he told Singularity Hub.
Other meteorite monitoring systems exist, particularly over the less-populated 
western half of the US, but the Fireball Network is the first that's completely 
automated, using optical recognition technology to identify the flaming 
signature of a meteorite burning up in the atmosphere (or the occasional 
spider). Eventually, it's hoped that the various meteor-monitoring networks 
could link up to cover the whole country.
It's not a warning system -- once a meteor is detected it'll likely be too late 
to alert any nearby residents. But data from the Fireball Network will be used 
to improve the shielding used on spacecraft, as well as being kept as a record 
of every large meteoroid to burn up over the US. It'll also help researchers 
track more of them down.
One of Cooke's assistants told Nasa's Science News: Most meteorites fall in 
the ocean, lakes, forests, farmer's fields, or the Antarctic…and the majority 
of those meteorites will never be found. But our system will help us track down 
more of them. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] New Episode of 'Insights on Meteorites on the Sikhote Alin

2011-03-16 Thread Alexander Seidel
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOR7jOk4ZC0 
 Finally the answer to the question, how do you pronounce 
 the #@#$ thing?...

Now this is what I would call really authentic! :-)

(Also in a very personal respect regarding that
interviewed person as one of those friendly guys 
around from a country that once used to be behind 
all those fences for us...)

Alex
Berlin/Germany  
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[meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread valparint
Or, apparently, think straight.

Paul Swartz


  I'm under the weather 
 today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely see 
 straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.
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[meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Rob Lenssen
Hi Arnaud (and List),

The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on this
List about 10 years ago (how time flies...)
As the List archives only go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails
below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you.
Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine.

Here are some more photos of labeled  S-A's, I collected back then (the
photos!).
Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting
without asking permission:
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg


Best regards,
Rob Lenssen

PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best
Sikhote Alin:
http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html



-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens The Tricottet
Collection
Verzonden: woensdag 16 maart 2011 16:22
Aan: Gary F; Michael Johnson
CC: MeteoriteList
Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16,
2011


First thank you all for your nice comments.

Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters. You
can see for example that they used the letter I instead of the number 1
for that specimen:
http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg
Or maybe the 8 is stretched because of the soft sticker.

Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses.

Best regards,
Arnaud


The Tricottet Collection
(Historic Minerals, Fossils  Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com
Facebook: The Tricottet Collection
Twitter: TricottetColl





-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
Van: meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com
[mailto:meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens geok...@notkin.net
Verzonden: zondag 4 november 2001 5:19
Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Numbering of Meteorites + Krinov Book [long]

Dear Dave, Rob, Steve, and List:

I'd like to return to the thread from a few days back, when Dave Harris, Rob
Lenssen, Steve Schoner and I were discussing labels on some old collection
Sikhote-Alins. Collection numbers interest me, so I've done a bit more
research over the past few days.

Just to recap: Dave and I both recently acquired nice, uncleaned and
slightly rusted Sikhotes from Rob Wesel (thanks Rob). They carry a white
gauze label, with four-digit typewritten collection numbers. 
Steve Schoner was quite certain these are Russian National Academy of
Sciences numbers, and Rob provided some useful info and photos, and also had
a labelling question (I think I have your answer, Rob, see below). However,
the actual numbers on our specimens don't match Krinov's numbers, so there
was some doubt.

First off, Rob, in style the labels do appear to match the photos you
supplied here:
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA1.jpg   and here: 
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA2.jpg

I find it odd that specimens with really low numbers, like the one in Rob's
photo 0067, and mine 0112, were evidently not collected during the first
expedition to Sikhote-Alin, due to the light coating of rust. You would
expect the really low numbers to have been from the earliest expedition (and
therefore to be in nearly pristine condition), but I suppose they could have
been numbered out of order at a later date -- back in Moscow or St.
Petersburg. Or maybe they 
were just left outside in an old crate somewhere   : )

Anyway, I have to agree with Steve S., and I think I've found proof that
these are official Russian labels. Earlier this year, I had the good fortune
to acquire a signed copy of Krinov's book about Tunguska and Sikhote-Alin.
This book used to belong to Dr. Elbert King, and I ended up with it thanks
to Steve Arnold of I.M.B. The book is
(obviously) in Russian and, as far as I know, has unfortunately never been
translated into English. My very basic Russian is not up to the task. The
title reads (phonetically) Zhelezny Dozhd, and the cover is a two-color
reprint of the famous Sikhote-Alin stamp. On pg. 54 of the book -- published
in 1981 -- is a b/w photo of a Sikhote-Alin specimen which appears to carry
the same type of label. I know it's a terribly bad quality image, but you
should have seen it before I cleaned it up in Photoshop  : )

Have a look:   http://www.notkin.net/collection-numbers.htm

Compare the b/w image to the color pic of my Sikhote-Alin 0112, 
immediately below on the same page.

Steve, if you have time, it would be most interesting to see a photo of one
of your Sikhotes with the labels that you know to be from the Russian
Academy.

Finally, Rob asked if anyone could help him to identify the label on his
collection piece here:

http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SikhoteAlin-7a.jpg


Rob, please compare your photo to the bottom 

Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Gary Fujihara
Thanks for the links to those pictures Rob.  They support the possibility of 
Arnaud's specimen being numbered 0098 (as opposed to 8600) because they are 
smaller individuals whose serial numbers fall within the range of his piece.

gary

On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Rob Lenssen wrote:

 Hi Arnaud (and List),
 
 The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on this
 List about 10 years ago (how time flies...)
 As the List archives only go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails
 below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you.
 Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine.
 
 Here are some more photos of labeled  S-A's, I collected back then (the
 photos!).
 Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting
 without asking permission:
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg
 
 
 Best regards,
 Rob Lenssen
 
 PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best
 Sikhote Alin:
 http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html
 
 
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens The Tricottet
 Collection
 Verzonden: woensdag 16 maart 2011 16:22
 Aan: Gary F; Michael Johnson
 CC: MeteoriteList
 Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16,
 2011
 
 
 First thank you all for your nice comments.
 
 Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters. You
 can see for example that they used the letter I instead of the number 1
 for that specimen:
 http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg
 Or maybe the 8 is stretched because of the soft sticker.
 
 Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses.
 
 Best regards,
 Arnaud
 
 
 The Tricottet Collection
 (Historic Minerals, Fossils  Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com
 Facebook: The Tricottet Collection
 Twitter: TricottetColl
 
 
 
 
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens geok...@notkin.net
 Verzonden: zondag 4 november 2001 5:19
 Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Numbering of Meteorites + Krinov Book [long]
 
 Dear Dave, Rob, Steve, and List:
 
 I'd like to return to the thread from a few days back, when Dave Harris, Rob
 Lenssen, Steve Schoner and I were discussing labels on some old collection
 Sikhote-Alins. Collection numbers interest me, so I've done a bit more
 research over the past few days.
 
 Just to recap: Dave and I both recently acquired nice, uncleaned and
 slightly rusted Sikhotes from Rob Wesel (thanks Rob). They carry a white
 gauze label, with four-digit typewritten collection numbers. 
 Steve Schoner was quite certain these are Russian National Academy of
 Sciences numbers, and Rob provided some useful info and photos, and also had
 a labelling question (I think I have your answer, Rob, see below). However,
 the actual numbers on our specimens don't match Krinov's numbers, so there
 was some doubt.
 
 First off, Rob, in style the labels do appear to match the photos you
 supplied here:
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA1.jpg   and here: 
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA2.jpg
 
 I find it odd that specimens with really low numbers, like the one in Rob's
 photo 0067, and mine 0112, were evidently not collected during the first
 expedition to Sikhote-Alin, due to the light coating of rust. You would
 expect the really low numbers to have been from the earliest expedition (and
 therefore to be in nearly pristine condition), but I suppose they could have
 been numbered out of order at a later date -- back in Moscow or St.
 Petersburg. Or maybe they 
 were just left outside in an old crate somewhere   : )
 
 Anyway, I have to agree with Steve S., and I think I've found proof that
 these are official Russian labels. Earlier this year, I had the good fortune
 to acquire a signed copy of Krinov's book about Tunguska and Sikhote-Alin.
 This book used to belong to Dr. Elbert King, and I ended up with it thanks
 to Steve Arnold of I.M.B. The book is
 (obviously) in Russian and, as far as I know, has unfortunately never been
 translated into English. My very basic Russian is not up to the task. The
 title reads (phonetically) Zhelezny Dozhd, and the cover is a two-color
 reprint of the famous Sikhote-Alin stamp. On pg. 54 of the book -- published
 in 1981 -- is a b/w photo of a Sikhote-Alin specimen which appears to carry
 the same type of label. I know it's a terribly bad quality image, but you
 should have seen it before I cleaned it up in Photoshop  : )
 
 Have a look:   http://www.notkin.net/collection-numbers.htm
 
 Compare the b/w image to the color pic of my 

Re: [meteorite-list] Nasa builds meteor-tracking 'Fireball Network'

2011-03-16 Thread actionshooting
I would like to have one of those at my house.

--
Stuart McDaniel
Lawndale, NC 


 Thunder Stone stanleygr...@hotmail.com wrote: 

=


List:
 
Now this sounds interesting.
 
Greg S.
 
 
http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2011-03/16/nasa-fireball-network
 
 
US space agency Nasa is planning to cover the United States with cameras facing 
upward to track meteorites as they enter the atmosphere.
The scheme, which has been named the All-sky Fireball Network will allow 
researchers to triangulate observations of space rocks to try and figure out 
where they're going to land, making them easier to recover. It's entirely 
automated -- computers scan the images received to try and work out which 
objects are meteors, and then send any positive results to Nasa, which puts 
them on the web.
The network currently consists of just three cameras -- in the US states of 
Alabama, Georgia and Tennessee. Nasa's William Cooke, head of the agency's 
Meteoroid Environment Office, hopes to expand that to 15 cameras across the 
eastern half of the US, and is talking to schools, planetariums and science 
centres to host them. If someone calls me and asks 'What was that?' I'll be 
able to tell them, he told Singularity Hub.
Other meteorite monitoring systems exist, particularly over the less-populated 
western half of the US, but the Fireball Network is the first that's completely 
automated, using optical recognition technology to identify the flaming 
signature of a meteorite burning up in the atmosphere (or the occasional 
spider). Eventually, it's hoped that the various meteor-monitoring networks 
could link up to cover the whole country.
It's not a warning system -- once a meteor is detected it'll likely be too late 
to alert any nearby residents. But data from the Fireball Network will be used 
to improve the shielding used on spacecraft, as well as being kept as a record 
of every large meteoroid to burn up over the US. It'll also help researchers 
track more of them down.
One of Cooke's assistants told Nasa's Science News: Most meteorites fall in 
the ocean, lakes, forests, farmer's fields, or the Antarctic…and the majority 
of those meteorites will never be found. But our system will help us track down 
more of them. 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread ke...@lobstershack.com


Unless this argument is going to result in people throwing meteorites at
each other, can we please take it offline?

Maybe we can redirect this conversation back on topic by discussing the
following question:

If you were to get into a meteorite throwing argument, which type of
meteorite would you throw at the other person and why? (taking into account
the meteorite can be no heavier than 50g)


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Kowalski
Easy.

Gebel Kamil shrapnel.

You get the force of the impact from a dense body with the advantage of sharp 
edges.

Now lets see if we can all of these useless talking heads in the media to throw 
these at each other instead of all this useless argument that gets the United 
States nowhere but further behind.

Now THAT would be worth watching.


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Wed, 3/16/11, ke...@lobstershack.com ke...@lobstershack.com wrote:

 From: ke...@lobstershack.com ke...@lobstershack.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope 
 Dirk and others are ok
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 11:14 AM
 
 
 Unless this argument is going to result in people throwing
 meteorites at
 each other, can we please take it offline?
 
 Maybe we can redirect this conversation back on topic by
 discussing the
 following question:
 
 If you were to get into a meteorite throwing argument,
 which type of
 meteorite would you throw at the other person and why?
 (taking into account
 the meteorite can be no heavier than 50g)
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and ...

2011-03-16 Thread GeoZay

If you were to get into a meteorite  throwing argument, which type of
meteorite would you throw at the other  person and why? (taking into account
the meteorite can be no heavier than  50g

An iron type such as a Campo del Cielo. Because I think it  would be less 
likely to break  than just an ordinary rock and it would  probably hurt more. 
 :O)
GeoZay  

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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and ...

2011-03-16 Thread LITIG8NSHARK
Good afternoon Folks,

Why, my choice  would be either Nakhla or Valera, of course.  They both 
have a reputation  to uphold and can be expected to get the job done.  ;-)

Best  regards,

Paul Martyn
Savannah, GA

In a message dated 3/16/2011  4:50:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
ke...@lobstershack.com writes:
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meteorite would  you throw at the other person and why? (taking into account
the meteorite can  be no heavier than 50g)  

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[meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread JoshuaTreeMuseum
This is a no-brainer. I would toss a well balanced throwing knife made of 
Muonionalusta or Gibeon at my adversary.


-
Phil Whitmer



If you were to get into a meteorite throwing argument, which type of


meteorite would you throw at the other person and why? (taking into account
the meteorite can be no heavier than 50g

An iron type such as a Campo del Cielo. Because I think it would be less
likely to break than just an ordinary rock and it would probably hurt more.
:O)
GeoZay

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[meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Brian Cox
Do I know you Paul Swartz? Who are you, why are you emailing me? Are you a 
meteorite collector or just someone reading the list and didn't like my 
post. Are you in the IMCA? Why are you stalking and harassing me?


Does anyone know this guy?


-Original Message- 
From: valpar...@aol.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:37 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

Or, apparently, think straight.

Paul Swartz



 I'm under the weather
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely 
see

straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.
Brian Cox 


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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread The Tricottet Collection

Dear Rob,

thank you so so much for sharing these photographs as well as these 2001 posts! 
Very informative.

Gary, you are right, must be #0098 then!

I will do more research and update my S-A page accordingly 
(http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/met_sikhotealin.html)


Arnaud

The Tricottet Collection
(Historic Minerals, Fossils  Meteorites)
www.thetricottetcollection.com
Facebook: The Tricottet Collection
Twitter: TricottetColl




 From: rlens...@planet.nl
 To: tricottetc...@live.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011
 Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:30:19 +0100
 
 Hi Arnaud (and List),
 
 The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on this
 List about 10 years ago (how time flies...)
 As the List archives only go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails
 below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you.
 Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine.
 
 Here are some more photos of labeled  S-A's, I collected back then (the
 photos!).
 Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting
 without asking permission:
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg
 
 
 Best regards,
 Rob Lenssen
 
 PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best
 Sikhote Alin:
 http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html
 
 
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens The Tricottet
 Collection
 Verzonden: woensdag 16 maart 2011 16:22
 Aan: Gary F; Michael Johnson
 CC: MeteoriteList
 Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16,
 2011
 
 
 First thank you all for your nice comments.
 
 Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters. You
 can see for example that they used the letter I instead of the number 1
 for that specimen:
 http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg
 Or maybe the 8 is stretched because of the soft sticker.
 
 Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses.
 
 Best regards,
 Arnaud
 
 
 The Tricottet Collection
 (Historic Minerals, Fossils  Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com
 Facebook: The Tricottet Collection
 Twitter: TricottetColl
 
 
 
 
 
 -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
 Van: meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com
 [mailto:meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens geok...@notkin.net
 Verzonden: zondag 4 november 2001 5:19
 Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Numbering of Meteorites + Krinov Book [long]
 
 Dear Dave, Rob, Steve, and List:
 
 I'd like to return to the thread from a few days back, when Dave Harris, Rob
 Lenssen, Steve Schoner and I were discussing labels on some old collection
 Sikhote-Alins. Collection numbers interest me, so I've done a bit more
 research over the past few days.
 
 Just to recap: Dave and I both recently acquired nice, uncleaned and
 slightly rusted Sikhotes from Rob Wesel (thanks Rob). They carry a white
 gauze label, with four-digit typewritten collection numbers. 
 Steve Schoner was quite certain these are Russian National Academy of
 Sciences numbers, and Rob provided some useful info and photos, and also had
 a labelling question (I think I have your answer, Rob, see below). However,
 the actual numbers on our specimens don't match Krinov's numbers, so there
 was some doubt.
 
 First off, Rob, in style the labels do appear to match the photos you
 supplied here:
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA1.jpg   and here: 
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA2.jpg
 
 I find it odd that specimens with really low numbers, like the one in Rob's
 photo 0067, and mine 0112, were evidently not collected during the first
 expedition to Sikhote-Alin, due to the light coating of rust. You would
 expect the really low numbers to have been from the earliest expedition (and
 therefore to be in nearly pristine condition), but I suppose they could have
 been numbered out of order at a later date -- back in Moscow or St.
 Petersburg. Or maybe they 
 were just left outside in an old crate somewhere   : )
 
 Anyway, I have to agree with Steve S., and I think I've found proof that
 these are official Russian labels. Earlier this year, I had the good fortune
 to acquire a signed copy of Krinov's book about Tunguska and Sikhote-Alin.
 This book used to belong to Dr. Elbert King, and I ended up with it thanks
 to Steve Arnold of I.M.B. The book is
 (obviously) in Russian and, as far as I know, has unfortunately never been
 translated into English. My very basic Russian is not up to the task. The
 title reads (phonetically) Zhelezny Dozhd, and the cover is a two-color
 reprint of the famous Sikhote-Alin stamp. 

Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Rob Holcomb
Pretty easy to verify, but please take this discussion offline. It doesn't 
belong here, and I do expect some of these comments will be regretted when 
they show up in internet searches.


Rob H

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To: Meteorite-list meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope Dirk 
and others are ok


Do I know you Paul Swartz? Who are you, why are you emailing me? Are you a 
meteorite collector or just someone reading the list and didn't like my 
post. Are you in the IMCA? Why are you stalking and harassing me?


Does anyone know this guy?


-Original Message- 
From: valpar...@aol.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 3:37 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Cc: searchingfor...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

Or, apparently, think straight.

Paul Swartz



 I'm under the weather
today and at home under the covers with a rotten cold that I can barely 
see

straight or type and the light hurts my eyes.
Brian Cox


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Count Deiro
A Campo. Their cheap...their heavy...and their hard to trace.

Count Deiro
IMCA 3536



-Original Message-
From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
Sent: Mar 16, 2011 1:56 PM
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com, ke...@lobstershack.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,
Hope Dirk and others are ok

Easy.

Gebel Kamil shrapnel.

You get the force of the impact from a dense body with the advantage of sharp 
edges.

Now lets see if we can all of these useless talking heads in the media to 
throw these at each other instead of all this useless argument that gets the 
United States nowhere but further behind.

Now THAT would be worth watching.


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


--- On Wed, 3/16/11, ke...@lobstershack.com ke...@lobstershack.com wrote:

 From: ke...@lobstershack.com ke...@lobstershack.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope 
 Dirk and others are ok
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Date: Wednesday, March 16, 2011, 11:14 AM
 
 
 Unless this argument is going to result in people throwing
 meteorites at
 each other, can we please take it offline?
 
 Maybe we can redirect this conversation back on topic by
 discussing the
 following question:
 
 If you were to get into a meteorite throwing argument,
 which type of
 meteorite would you throw at the other person and why?
 (taking into account
 the meteorite can be no heavier than 50g)
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Alexander Seidel
Quite a good example of an internet-meteoritefriends-connection. People who 
intelligently advance the knowledge about something quite special...

0098 greetings to Rob, Gary, Arnaud, and the rest of the gang! :-)
Alex


 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:10:14 +
 Von: The Tricottet Collection tricottetc...@live.com
 An: rlens...@planet.nl, MeteoriteList meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Betreff: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

 
 Dear Rob,
 
 thank you so so much for sharing these photographs as well as these 2001
 posts! Very informative.
 
 Gary, you are right, must be #0098 then!
 
 I will do more research and update my S-A page accordingly
 (http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/met_sikhotealin.html)
 
 
 Arnaud
 
 The Tricottet Collection
 (Historic Minerals, Fossils  Meteorites)
 www.thetricottetcollection.com
 Facebook: The Tricottet Collection
 Twitter: TricottetColl
 
 
 
 
  From: rlens...@planet.nl
  To: tricottetc...@live.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
  Subject: FW: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March
 16, 2011
  Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:30:19 +0100
  
  Hi Arnaud (and List),
  
  The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on
 this
  List about 10 years ago (how time flies...)
  As the List archives only go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails
  below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you.
  Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine.
  
  Here are some more photos of labeled  S-A's, I collected back then (the
  photos!).
  Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting
  without asking permission:
  http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg
  http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg
  http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg
  
  
  Best regards,
  Rob Lenssen
  
  PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best
  Sikhote Alin:
  http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html
  
  
  
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens The
 Tricottet
  Collection
  Verzonden: woensdag 16 maart 2011 16:22
  Aan: Gary F; Michael Johnson
  CC: MeteoriteList
  Onderwerp: Re: [meteorite-list] Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March
 16,
  2011
  
  
  First thank you all for your nice comments.
  
  Gary, I thought the same thing but I would not trust their typewriters.
 You
  can see for example that they used the letter I instead of the number
 1
  for that specimen:
 
 http://www.thetricottetcollection.com/img/img_met/1-5_SikhoteAlin_SAS.jpg
  Or maybe the 8 is stretched because of the soft sticker.
  
  Moreover, it seems that all early numbers are very large masses.
  
  Best regards,
  Arnaud
  
  
  The Tricottet Collection
  (Historic Minerals, Fossils  Meteorites) www.thetricottetcollection.com
  Facebook: The Tricottet Collection
  Twitter: TricottetColl
  
  
  
  
  
  -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
  Van: meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com
  [mailto:meteorite-list-ad...@meteoritecentral.com] Namens
 geok...@notkin.net
  Verzonden: zondag 4 november 2001 5:19
  Onderwerp: [meteorite-list] Numbering of Meteorites + Krinov Book [long]
  
  Dear Dave, Rob, Steve, and List:
  
  I'd like to return to the thread from a few days back, when Dave Harris,
 Rob
  Lenssen, Steve Schoner and I were discussing labels on some old
 collection
  Sikhote-Alins. Collection numbers interest me, so I've done a bit more
  research over the past few days.
  
  Just to recap: Dave and I both recently acquired nice, uncleaned and
  slightly rusted Sikhotes from Rob Wesel (thanks Rob). They carry a white
  gauze label, with four-digit typewritten collection numbers. 
  Steve Schoner was quite certain these are Russian National Academy of
  Sciences numbers, and Rob provided some useful info and photos, and also
 had
  a labelling question (I think I have your answer, Rob, see below).
 However,
  the actual numbers on our specimens don't match Krinov's numbers, so
 there
  was some doubt.
  
  First off, Rob, in style the labels do appear to match the photos you
  supplied here:
  http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA1.jpg   and here: 
  http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/SA2.jpg
  
  I find it odd that specimens with really low numbers, like the one in
 Rob's
  photo 0067, and mine 0112, were evidently not collected during the
 first
  expedition to Sikhote-Alin, due to the light coating of rust. You would
  expect the really low numbers to have been from the earliest expedition
 (and
  therefore to be in nearly pristine condition), but I suppose they could
 have
  been numbered out of order at a later date -- back in Moscow or St.
  Petersburg. Or maybe they 
  were just left 

[meteorite-list] AERIAL VIEWS OF JAPAN

2011-03-16 Thread cdtucson
OMG;
ABC is amazing. Very sad. 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm

--
Carl or Debbie Esparza
Meteoritemax

  
 This will take a little time to fully load.  Put your cursor over the right
 side of each picture and just move it from side to side.  You will see the
 before and after pictures.  What terrible devastation!

  
 
 http://www.abc.net.au/news/events/japan-quake-2011/beforeafter.htm 

  
 
  
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Matthias Bärmann
 - it was on the original eBay
advert - I recall showing it to a (rather bored) colleague at work 
saying 

that's m'boy! I want that one!, but obviously, not being in the
running

for

the whole collection I thought it impossible I would procure it - then
the inestimable Mr. Wesel swoops in from no where and scoops the lot
and

whaddya

know! I get the chance to buy it!
I prevaricated for a day - had I not I would have had your one too!!!
So, a multitude of thanks to all of those involved - you, Steve Schoner
(a name I have seen an awful lot on the list!) and Rob Wesel for giving
me the opportunity to purchase this breathtaking specimen!
it's gone to a great home!

dave



- Original Message -
From: geok...@notkin.net
To: entropyd...@ic24.net
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2001 4:14 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [meteorite-list] numbering of meteorites



Steve Schoner posted:


These are original Soviet Academy of Sciences labels.  That is the
way the did it, and I have in my collection two pieces that were
sent to me by the late Dr. Krinov in 1972 with the same type
labels--


Holy cow! I was hoping they were maybe Russian labels, but I had no

evidence.


Steve Schoner should know -- he is quite the expert (and a very nice
guy). This is very exciting. Okay, so if you ever decide to get rid
of that Sikhote, I'm your customer  : )

Best,

Geoff N





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Re: [meteorite-list] 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and ...

2011-03-16 Thread Carl 's

Let's see... Campo, Gebel Kamel, Valera, Nakhla...OK, since Brian Cox isn't 
feeling very well lately, I'll be willing to be his stand-in. Cal-OSHA requires 
protective gear, but I'm not too sure about Phil's throwing knives. I may need 
to be far enough away to rely on my cat-like reflexes...:)
 
Carl2
  
 
 
 
 
 
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meteorite would  you throw at the other person and why? (taking into account
the meteorite can  be no heavier than 50g)  
  
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Re: [meteorite-list] OT- TEPCO Press Release

2011-03-16 Thread wahlperry

Hi List,

U.S. regulators recommend a 50-mile evacuation zone in the event of a 
similarly serious nuclear power accident.


Sonny

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/16/134582068/workers-evacuate-part-of-japanese-nuclear-plant

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/16/japan-quake-live-blog-death-toll-expected-to-rise-as-crews-reach-more-areas/?hpt=T1


-Original Message-
From: Count Deiro countde...@earthlink.net
To: Barrett barret...@comcast.net; meteorite-list 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com

Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 9:15 am
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] OT- TEPCO Press Release


Excellent post. It's about time the qualified professionals at TEPCO 
released a verifiable synopsis of what actually happened at the 
Fukushima installation. They included a quantitive report for their 
complete system. Those buttheads in the media and the anti-nukers will 
still demagogue this incident for their own self interest. But, the 
fact remainsthe operators and the plants performed magnificently 
under the most severe physical circumstances that could be imagined. 
Now, maybe the press will turn its attention to the horrendous loss of 
life and property caused by the real dangersearthquake and 
tsunami.Count DeiroIMCA 3536  -Original Message-From: Barrett 
barret...@comcast.netSent: Mar 16, 2011 8:27 AMTo: 
meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.comSubject: [meteorite-list] OT- TEPCO 
Press Release  Press Release (Mar 16,2011)Impact to TEPCO's 
Facilities due to Tohoku-Taiheiyou-Oki Earthquake (as of2:00PM)   
Below is the status of TEPCO's major facilities that suffered from 
the Tohoku-Taiheiyou-Oki Earthquake that occurred at 2:46PM, March 
11th 2011.*new items are underlined[Nuclear Power Station]Fukushima 
Daiichi Nuclear Power Station: Units 1 to 3: shutdown due to 
earthquake Units 4 to 6: outage due to regular inspection at the 
occurrence ofearthquake *The national government has 
instructed to evacuate for those local  residents within 20km radius 
of the site periphery and to remain  indoors for those local residents 
within 30km radius of the site  periphery.*Since the value of 
radioactive materials (iodine, etc) at the site  (outside) measured by 
monitoring car exceeded the ordinary level,  it was determined that a 
specific incident stipulated in article 15,  clause 1 occurred 
(Extraordinary increase of radiation dose at site  boundary).  - 4:17 
pm, March 15th at the main gate of the site - 11:05 pm, March 15th at 
the main gate of the site* Unit 1 The explosive sound and white 
smoke was confirmed near Unit 1 after  the big quake occurred at 
3:36pm, March 12th. We have started sea  water injection at 8:20 pm 
and then boric acid into the reactor. *Unit 2 At 1:25 pm, March 
14th, since the Reactor Core Isolation Cooling System  has failed, it 
was determined that a specific incident stipulated in  article 15, 
clause 1 occurred (failure of reactor cooling function). At 5:17 pm, 
while the water level in the reactor reached the top of the  fuel rod, 
we have restarted the water injection with the valve operation.  At 
approximately 6:14 am, March 15th, the extraordinary sound was  
confirmed near the suppression chamber and the pressure inside the  
chamber decreased afterwards. It was determined that there is a  
possibility that something extraordinary happened in the suppression  
chamber. While sea water injection to the reactor continued, TEPCO  
employees and workers from other companies not in charge of injection  
work started tentative evacuation to a safe location. Sea water 
injection to the reactor is still under operation. *Unit 3 At 6:50 
am, March 14th, while water injection to the reactor was under  
operation, the pressure in the reactor containment vessel increased to 
 530 kPa. As a result, at 7:44 am, it was determined that a specific  
incident stipulated in article 15, clause 1 occurred (abnormal increase 
 of the pressure of reactor containment vessel). Afterwards, the 
pressure  has gradually decreased (as of 9:05 am, 450 kPa).  At 
approximately 11:01 am, March 14th, an explosion followed by white  
smoke occurred near Unit 3. 4 TEPCO employees and 3 workers from other 
 companies (all of them are conscious) have sustained injuries and 
they  were already dispatched to the hospital by ambulances. *Unit 
4 At approximately 6:00 am, March 15th, an explosive sound occurred 
and  the damage in the 5th floor roof of Unit 4 reactor building was  
confirmed. At 9:38 am, the fire near the north-west part of 4th floor  
of Unit 4 reactor building was confirmed. At approximately 11:00 am,  
TEPCO employee confirmed that the fire was off.  At approximately 
5:45 am, a TEPCO employee discovered a fire at the northwest corner of 
the Nuclear Reactor Building. TEPCO immediately reported this incident 
to the fire department and the local government and prepared to 
extinguish the fire. However, during an inspection at approximately 
6:15 am, TEPCO staff found no 

Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread fallingfusion
For those of you that sell on feeBay. Take alook at this great news to take 
affect on April 19th. This first paragraph seems too good to be true... but 
then look at the second paragraph - the final value fee will now be applied to 
shipping fees also! So basically, if you have to ship a large, heavy item.. 
eBay will charge you extra for it, even though shipping is done third party by 
the seller. What a load of

Ryan 



We're writing with some great news: 

Starting April 19, you'll be able to list your items Auction-style FREE, at any 
start price, up to 50 listings a month. Plus you can add the Buy It Now option 
to these listings FREE to grab buyers in a hurry. Set the price you want and 
sell it fast! This is not a limited-time special but a change in eBay Standard 
fees to help you list more for FREE all the time?even those high ticket items! 
Pay only if your item sells. 

Also, because we know buyers take into consideration the total cost of an item, 
also starting April 19, to encourage sellers to keep shipping costs low, the 
Final Value Fee will be applied to the total amount of the sale, INCLUDING 
SHIPPING.


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Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Impactika
No, of course not Matthias!
It is never too late! And here are two more Sikhote-Alins, in as found 
condition and straight from the Vernadsky Institute, with labels, cards, and 
even an official letter. 
_http://www.impactika.com/2SAlins.jpg_ 
(http://www.impactika.com/2SAlins.jpg)  
 
Do you like those?
(Yes, of course, they are for sale, but the small one is already sold).
 
Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/) 
_IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com) 
President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/) 
 
 
In a message dated 3/16/2011 4:03:05 PM Mountain Daylight Time, 
majbaerm...@web.de writes:
I already congratulated Arnaud privately: what a wonderful piece of 
Sikhote! 
Exactly the same with Rob's irons: simply breathtaking! I have to realize 
that I came too late in the field of meteorites :-(

But: is it really possible to turn a 0 around ^^

Best to all,

Matthias B.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com
To: Rob Lenssen rlens...@planet.nl
Cc: 'MeteoriteList' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 
16,2011


 Thanks for the links to those pictures Rob.  They support the possibility 
 of Arnaud's specimen being numbered 0098 (as opposed to 8600) because 
they 
 are smaller individuals whose serial numbers fall within the range of his 
 piece.

 gary

 On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Rob Lenssen wrote:

 Hi Arnaud (and List),

 The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on 
 this
 List about 10 years ago (how time flies...)
 As the List archives only go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails
 below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you.
 Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine.

 Here are some more photos of labeled  S-A's, I collected back then (the
 photos!).
 Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting
 without asking permission:
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg
 http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg


 Best regards,
 Rob Lenssen

 PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best
 Sikhote Alin:
 http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html


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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and ...

2011-03-16 Thread John L


Hello all,

C'mon folks--read the subject line--there's alot going on right now--stay on
point.
However, Paul was close--I think a 50gm firm nugget of Nakhla Dog's recent
lunch should make one give up.

John
IMCA# 1896

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From: litig8nsh...@aol.com

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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:01 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope
Dirk and ...



Good afternoon Folks,

Why, my choice  would be either Nakhla or Valera, of course.  They both
have a reputation  to uphold and can be expected to get the job done.  ;-)

Best  regards,

Paul Martyn
Savannah, GA

In a message dated 3/16/2011  4:50:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ke...@lobstershack.com writes:
If you  were to get into a meteorite throwing argument, which type of
meteorite would  you throw at the other person and why? (taking into
account
the meteorite can  be no heavier than 50g)

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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Kowalski
--- On Wed, 3/16/11, fallingfus...@wi.rr.com fallingfus...@wi.rr.com wrote:


 Also, because we know buyers take into consideration the
 total cost of an item, also starting April 19, to encourage
 sellers to keep shipping costs low, the Final Value Fee will
 be applied to the total amount of the sale, INCLUDING
 SHIPPING.

That's a non sequitur.

The encouragement to keep shipping costs low is competition, not additional 
fees to the seller. It would be interesting to hear the two-step ebay needs to 
make to make these two things jive. My guess is smaller sellers get screwed and 
the larger sellers make special deals.

Nothing new under the Sun.


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Marcin Cimala
For those of you that sell on feeBay. Take alook at this great news to 
take affect on April 19th. This first paragraph seems too good to be 
true... but then look at the second paragraph - the final value fee will 
now be applied to shipping fees also! So basically, if you have to ship a 
large, heavy item.. eBay will charge you extra for it, even though 
shipping is done third party by the seller. What a load of


Ryan


Hmm
Soon they will charge extra final value fees to all items that not sell as a 
punishment


But this changes are not too bad. We will see how this will work

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread mail
Everyone has the choice not to use Ebay. Visit your favorite dealers' sites or 
email and work deals that way. Saves us ALL capital and is more fun.
Matt

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215

-Original Message-
From: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 01:15:11 
To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Reply-To: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

 For those of you that sell on feeBay. Take alook at this great news to 
 take affect on April 19th. This first paragraph seems too good to be 
 true... but then look at the second paragraph - the final value fee will 
 now be applied to shipping fees also! So basically, if you have to ship a 
 large, heavy item.. eBay will charge you extra for it, even though 
 shipping is done third party by the seller. What a load of

 Ryan

Hmm
Soon they will charge extra final value fees to all items that not sell as a 
punishment

But this changes are not too bad. We will see how this will work

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
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http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Adam Hupe
No matter what, eBay will always find a way to take more money from the deal. I 
charge exactly what it cost to ship meaning I lose due to PayPal fees.  Now 
eBay 
wants a chunk. This is getting ridiculous.  Buyers complain every time the post 
office raises their fees and this is reflected in the points system.  EBay 
wants 
you to use their shipping but they cannot handle international. They are not 
happy unless they change the system every month.  They make it sound like great 
news but it always seems to end up costing the seller more.

Best Regards,

Adam





- Original Message 
From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:14:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

--- On Wed, 3/16/11, fallingfus...@wi.rr.com fallingfus...@wi.rr.com wrote:


 Also, because we know buyers take into consideration the
 total cost of an item, also starting April 19, to encourage
 sellers to keep shipping costs low, the Final Value Fee will
 be applied to the total amount of the sale, INCLUDING
 SHIPPING.

That's a non sequitur.

The encouragement to keep shipping costs low is competition, not additional 
fees 
to the seller. It would be interesting to hear the two-step ebay needs to make 
to make these two things jive. My guess is smaller sellers get screwed and the 
larger sellers make special deals.

Nothing new under the Sun.


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081


  
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Rob Holcomb
Yeah, I've given up on eBay at this point. Not that I've sold more than 4 
rocks there, but much other stuff. And I'm not going to simply PASS the 
shipping charges through to feeBay AND pay them to the post office.  There 
are already too many fees, how about instituting a buyers premium? that 
would really shoot eBay in the foot.

It is a load of ...

Rob H

--
From: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:15 PM
To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

For those of you that sell on feeBay. Take alook at this great news to 
take affect on April 19th. This first paragraph seems too good to be 
true... but then look at the second paragraph - the final value fee will 
now be applied to shipping fees also! So basically, if you have to ship a 
large, heavy item.. eBay will charge you extra for it, even though 
shipping is done third party by the seller. What a load of


Ryan


Hmm
Soon they will charge extra final value fees to all items that not sell as 
a punishment


But this changes are not too bad. We will see how this will work

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Meteorites USA
Richard I wrote an article about this thing... You'd be surprised at 
what this is going to do for/against sellers. Especially those large 
volume sellers that ship internationally or many very heavy items.


Eric


On 3/16/2011 5:14 PM, Richard Kowalski wrote:

--- On Wed, 3/16/11, fallingfus...@wi.rr.comfallingfus...@wi.rr.com  wrote:


   

Also, because we know buyers take into consideration the
total cost of an item, also starting April 19, to encourage
sellers to keep shipping costs low, the Final Value Fee will
be applied to the total amount of the sale, INCLUDING
SHIPPING.
 

That's a non sequitur.

The encouragement to keep shipping costs low is competition, not additional 
fees to the seller. It would be interesting to hear the two-step ebay needs to 
make to make these two things jive. My guess is smaller sellers get screwed and 
the larger sellers make special deals.

Nothing new under the Sun.


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081



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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Gary Fujihara
Good points Adam,

Ebay/paypal gets sellers coming and going.  Between listing fees and final 
value fees, not to mention paypal fees, its getting harder and harder for 
sellers to keep a decent margin for themselves without driving their prices too 
high to compensate.  Now ebay wants to assess final value fees to include 
shipping on top of sold item?  What the heck!!!??  Shipping has absolutely 
NOTHING to do with ebay!  Why should ebay get revenue on their seller's 
expense?  

gary

On Mar 16, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:

 No matter what, eBay will always find a way to take more money from the deal. 
 I 
 charge exactly what it cost to ship meaning I lose due to PayPal fees.  Now 
 eBay 
 wants a chunk. This is getting ridiculous.  Buyers complain every time the 
 post 
 office raises their fees and this is reflected in the points system.  EBay 
 wants 
 you to use their shipping but they cannot handle international. They are not 
 happy unless they change the system every month.  They make it sound like 
 great 
 news but it always seems to end up costing the seller more.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
 Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:14:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.
 
 --- On Wed, 3/16/11, fallingfus...@wi.rr.com fallingfus...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 
 
 Also, because we know buyers take into consideration the
 total cost of an item, also starting April 19, to encourage
 sellers to keep shipping costs low, the Final Value Fee will
 be applied to the total amount of the sale, INCLUDING
 SHIPPING.
 
 That's a non sequitur.
 
 The encouragement to keep shipping costs low is competition, not additional 
 fees 
 to the seller. It would be interesting to hear the two-step ebay needs to 
 make 
 to make these two things jive. My guess is smaller sellers get screwed and 
 the 
 larger sellers make special deals.
 
 Nothing new under the Sun.
 
 
 --
 Richard Kowalski
 Full Moon Photography
 IMCA #1081
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Meteorites USA

I agree... Meteorite Dealers can go here!
http://www.meteoritesusa.com/meteorites-for-sale/

I get 100,000 plus visitors to my site annually. List your meteorites 
for sale where people are looking for meteorites for sale.


Regards,
Eric


On 3/16/2011 5:17 PM, m...@mhmeteorites.com wrote:

Everyone has the choice not to use Ebay. Visit your favorite dealers' sites or 
email and work deals that way. Saves us ALL capital and is more fun.
Matt

Matt Morgan
Mile High Meteorites
http://www.mhmeteorites.com
P.O. Box 151293
Lakewood, CO 80215

-Original Message-
From: Marcin Cimalamar...@meteoryt.net
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 01:15:11
To:fallingfus...@wi.rr.com;meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Reply-To: Marcin Cimalamar...@meteoryt.net
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

   

For those of you that sell on feeBay. Take alook at this great news to
take affect on April 19th. This first paragraph seems too good to be
true... but then look at the second paragraph - the final value fee will
now be applied to shipping fees also! So basically, if you have to ship a
large, heavy item.. eBay will charge you extra for it, even though
shipping is done third party by the seller. What a load of

Ryan
 

Hmm
Soon they will charge extra final value fees to all items that not sell as a
punishment

But this changes are not too bad. We will see how this will work

-[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
http://www.Meteoryty.pl marcin(at)meteoryty.pl
http://www.PolandMET.com   marcin(at)polandmet.com
http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Darren Garrison
On Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:29:19 -1000, you wrote:


Shipping has absolutely NOTHING to do with ebay!
Why should ebay get revenue on their seller's expense?  

Probably aimed at those who try to game the system by having artificially low
BIN prices and artificially high shipping prices so that they can make their
profit off of the shipping without paying a fee on it.
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Montgomery
This is so classic...additional fees within any third-party exchange 
ultimately limits the exchange itself (excuse me for my OT comment here, but 
this is also the model in statist taxation...sorry, but I couldn't 
resist...it is directly parallel.)


Ultimately, the 'law' of un-intended consequenses will come home to roost, 
and eBay will recognize the impact, or not.


By contrast, I must say that this List is populated by true Thinkers, and 
not a x-section of the general descerning public..which is why I am both 
honored and pleased that I discovered you all, and subsequently now have my 
most important specimens, not through eBay, yet through our List.


-Richard Montgomery



- Original Message - 
From: Adam Hupe raremeteori...@yahoo.com

To: Adam meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.


No matter what, eBay will always find a way to take more money from the 
deal. I
charge exactly what it cost to ship meaning I lose due to PayPal fees. 
Now eBay
wants a chunk. This is getting ridiculous.  Buyers complain every time the 
post
office raises their fees and this is reflected in the points system.  EBay 
wants
you to use their shipping but they cannot handle international. They are 
not
happy unless they change the system every month.  They make it sound like 
great

news but it always seems to end up costing the seller more.

Best Regards,

Adam





- Original Message 
From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:14:09 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

--- On Wed, 3/16/11, fallingfus...@wi.rr.com fallingfus...@wi.rr.com 
wrote:




Also, because we know buyers take into consideration the
total cost of an item, also starting April 19, to encourage
sellers to keep shipping costs low, the Final Value Fee will
be applied to the total amount of the sale, INCLUDING
SHIPPING.


That's a non sequitur.

The encouragement to keep shipping costs low is competition, not 
additional fees
to the seller. It would be interesting to hear the two-step ebay needs to 
make
to make these two things jive. My guess is smaller sellers get screwed and 
the

larger sellers make special deals.

Nothing new under the Sun.


--
Richard Kowalski
Full Moon Photography
IMCA #1081



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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread fallingfusion
There is probably a reason for this.

I have seen sellers listing multiple items using Buy It Now for, say, $.99 .. 
and then charging $50 for shipping. That way the final value fees for the 
seller are greatly reduced. So, I guess eBay got fed up with these loop-hole 
tactics, as if eBay/Paypal Inc. doesn't make enough annual revenue anyhow. So.. 
sellers, especially those that charge actual shipping and ship heavy items, 
will suffer the most as a result of this policy change.

Ryan
 
Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com
Sender: meteorite-list-boun...@meteoritecentral.com
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 14:29:19 
To: Adam Huperaremeteori...@yahoo.com
Cc: Adammeteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

Good points Adam,

Ebay/paypal gets sellers coming and going.  Between listing fees and final 
value fees, not to mention paypal fees, its getting harder and harder for 
sellers to keep a decent margin for themselves without driving their prices too 
high to compensate.  Now ebay wants to assess final value fees to include 
shipping on top of sold item?  What the heck!!!??  Shipping has absolutely 
NOTHING to do with ebay!  Why should ebay get revenue on their seller's 
expense?  

gary

On Mar 16, 2011, at 2:21 PM, Adam Hupe wrote:

 No matter what, eBay will always find a way to take more money from the deal. 
 I 
 charge exactly what it cost to ship meaning I lose due to PayPal fees.  Now 
 eBay 
 wants a chunk. This is getting ridiculous.  Buyers complain every time the 
 post 
 office raises their fees and this is reflected in the points system.  EBay 
 wants 
 you to use their shipping but they cannot handle international. They are not 
 happy unless they change the system every month.  They make it sound like 
 great 
 news but it always seems to end up costing the seller more.
 
 Best Regards,
 
 Adam
 
 
 
 
 
 - Original Message 
 From: Richard Kowalski damoc...@yahoo.com
 To: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com; fallingfus...@wi.rr.com
 Sent: Wed, March 16, 2011 5:14:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.
 
 --- On Wed, 3/16/11, fallingfus...@wi.rr.com fallingfus...@wi.rr.com wrote:
 
 
 Also, because we know buyers take into consideration the
 total cost of an item, also starting April 19, to encourage
 sellers to keep shipping costs low, the Final Value Fee will
 be applied to the total amount of the sale, INCLUDING
 SHIPPING.
 
 That's a non sequitur.
 
 The encouragement to keep shipping costs low is competition, not additional 
 fees 
 to the seller. It would be interesting to hear the two-step ebay needs to 
 make 
 to make these two things jive. My guess is smaller sellers get screwed and 
 the 
 larger sellers make special deals.
 
 Nothing new under the Sun.
 
 
 --
 Richard Kowalski
 Full Moon Photography
 IMCA #1081
 
 
 
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Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

2011-03-16 Thread Galactic Stone and Ironworks
Meteorite/eBay equation :

For buyers : heaven

For sellers : hell

It used to be heaven for both.

How long before it becomes hell for both?  And if/when eBay goes on
the decline, we'll wax nostalgic about the good ole meteorite days
with 99 cent planetaries


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On 3/16/11, Rob Holcomb rob.holc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Yeah, I've given up on eBay at this point. Not that I've sold more than 4
 rocks there, but much other stuff. And I'm not going to simply PASS the
 shipping charges through to feeBay AND pay them to the post office.  There
 are already too many fees, how about instituting a buyers premium? that
 would really shoot eBay in the foot.
 It is a load of ...

 Rob H

 --
 From: Marcin Cimala mar...@meteoryt.net
 Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:15 PM
 To: fallingfus...@wi.rr.com; meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
 Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Great News to eBay sellers.

 For those of you that sell on feeBay. Take alook at this great news to
 take affect on April 19th. This first paragraph seems too good to be
 true... but then look at the second paragraph - the final value fee will
 now be applied to shipping fees also! So basically, if you have to ship a

 large, heavy item.. eBay will charge you extra for it, even though
 shipping is done third party by the seller. What a load of

 Ryan

 Hmm
 Soon they will charge extra final value fees to all items that not sell as

 a punishment

 But this changes are not too bad. We will see how this will work

 -[ MARCIN CIMALA ]-[ I.M.C.A.#3667 ]-
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 http://www.Gao-Guenie.com  GSM: +48 (793) 567667
 [ Member of Polish Meteoritical Society ]

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Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 16, 2011

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Montgomery
Anne...those two are the most AAA+++ of all!  Love the color...no stinky TF 
goop, nor wire-brush.



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From: impact...@aol.com

To: majbaerm...@web.de; fuj...@mac.com; rlens...@planet.nl
Cc: meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March 
16,2011




No, of course not Matthias!
It is never too late! And here are two more Sikhote-Alins, in as found
condition and straight from the Vernadsky Institute, with labels, cards, 
and

even an official letter.
_http://www.impactika.com/2SAlins.jpg_
(http://www.impactika.com/2SAlins.jpg)

Do you like those?
(Yes, of course, they are for sale, but the small one is already sold).

Anne M. Black
_http://www.impactika.com/_ (http://www.impactika.com/)
_IMPACTIKA@aol.com_ (mailto:impact...@aol.com)
President, I.M.C.A. Inc.
_http://www.imca.cc/_ (http://www.imca.cc/)


In a message dated 3/16/2011 4:03:05 PM Mountain Daylight Time,
majbaerm...@web.de writes:
I already congratulated Arnaud privately: what a wonderful piece of
Sikhote!
Exactly the same with Rob's irons: simply breathtaking! I have to realize
that I came too late in the field of meteorites :-(

But: is it really possible to turn a 0 around ^^

Best to all,

Matthias B.


- Original Message - 
From: Gary Fujihara fuj...@mac.com

To: Rob Lenssen rlens...@planet.nl
Cc: 'MeteoriteList' meteorite-list@meteoritecentral.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] FW: Rocks from Space Picture of Day - March
16,2011



Thanks for the links to those pictures Rob.  They support the possibility
of Arnaud's specimen being numbered 0098 (as opposed to 8600) because

they

are smaller individuals whose serial numbers fall within the range of his
piece.

gary

On Mar 16, 2011, at 10:30 AM, Rob Lenssen wrote:


Hi Arnaud (and List),

The label talk reminded me of a Sikhote Alin Label discussion we had on
this
List about 10 years ago (how time flies...)
As the List archives only go back to 2004, I added two of the Emails
below. I think they contain information that may be of interest to you.
Not all of the links in there are working, but I reloaded mine.

Here are some more photos of labeled  S-A's, I collected back then (the
photos!).
Don't remember the sources. I hope the owners will forgive me posting
without asking permission:
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote02_label.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote03_label.jpg
http://home.planet.nl/~rlenssen/Sikhote04_label.jpg


Best regards,
Rob Lenssen

PS: For those interested, here are some more recent photos of my best
Sikhote Alin:
http://www.asteroidchippings.com/collection_links/Sikhote_Alin_473g.html



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Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami, Hope Dirk and others are ok

2011-03-16 Thread Richard Montgomery
Without question...Whitecourt.  Not much of a chance the opponent has one to 
throw back (at least not with an export permit...but that depends on where 
the throwing is happening.)  Imagine the internation incident:  cross-border 
throwing of.



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Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [meteorite-list] Fw: 8.9 Quake in Japan, 10 meter Tsunami,Hope 
Dirk and others are ok






Unless this argument is going to result in people throwing meteorites at
each other, can we please take it offline?

Maybe we can redirect this conversation back on topic by discussing the
following question:

If you were to get into a meteorite throwing argument, which type of
meteorite would you throw at the other person and why? (taking into 
account

the meteorite can be no heavier than 50g)


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[meteorite-list] OT: RISKS OF NUCLEAR POWER

2011-03-16 Thread Sterling K. Webb

List,

We are invariably abnormally impressed by the
sudden occurrence of a rare, high-risk event.
We do not appraise them in a strictly rational
manner when this happens.

The current application of fear caused by a very
rare event, as we see in Japan, is weighted heavily.
For those interested in the actual data, the human 
cost, in lives, of the various means of electric power 
production are listed below. 

Deaths are for the period 1970 through 1992, the 
only period for which data could be collected for all 
the means of production. 

All deaths are immediate deaths, and the figures 
are on a worldwide basis, which includes countries

with less stringent industrial safety requirements
than the U.S. This is the picture for the Planet.

Hydroelectric production accounted for roughly 4000 
deaths, of members of the public, or 883 deaths per 
terawatt-year. The vast majority of those deaths were

from the failure of dams and impoundments.

Coal power production produced  about 6400 deaths, 
all of workers, for a death rate of 342 deaths per 
terawatt-year. (Deaths from the mining of coal are

included in proportion to the use of coal in direct
power production.)

Natural Gas power production resulted in some 
1200 deaths, of both industry workers and the 
general public, for 85 deaths per terawatt-year.


Nuclear Power resulted in 31 deaths, all of workers, 
for a total of 8 deaths per terawatt-year, or 1%
of the deaths from safe environmentally friendly 
hydroelectric power.


The other fuel, petroleum, is rarely used for power 
production but largely for transportation. How deadly,

in these terms, is our transportation power use in
cars and trucks as compared to the cost in life of 
power production? 


The U.S. consumed 0.138 teragallons of gasoline
on 2009 (at 4.175 watt-years per gallon), with a
total energy content of a mere 0.576 terawatt-years.
Highway deaths in 2009 were 33,963, which yields 
58,943 deaths per terawatt-year of power consumed.


Clearly, the use of this power source for transport
is many orders of magnitude more dangerous than 
the production of electrical power, however it is 
accomplished. Our reaction to this horrendous

risk is to complain about how much it costs us to
fill'er up.

Humans are not rational animals.

The reduction in overall life expectancy in the 
U.S. due to nuclear power production is one-third 
of the reduction in life expectancy caused by eating 
8 ounces. of charcoal-broiled steak per week.


Make mine medium-rare, please.



Sterling K. Webb


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[meteorite-list] Info on Polishing Cut Stones?

2011-03-16 Thread Keith Wandry


Are there any reference books or online sources for information on  
polishing cut pieces?
I have some cheap pieces to practice on and am interested in knowing  
what to use and how some pieces I've seen have a sheen that almost  
looks like a clear coat on it.

Pros? Cons? Etc...

Thanks for an enlightenment!
Keith

Keith Wandry
ke...@lobstershack.com



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