xidle, xlock with awesome window manager

2008-10-26 Thread Chris
I'm using awesome window manager and trying to configure xlock so my
system gets locked after x seconds if I don't touch the keyboard or
mouse. But nothing seems to be happening after x seconds.

I tried to put the following in my .Xdefaults

XIdle.timeout: 5
XLock.mode: random
XLock.mousemotion: on
XLock.nice: 19
XLock.program: /usr/games/fortune -a
XLock.random.modelist: maze bat biof pyro drift eyes lisa marquee
matrix molecule nose pacman petri space swarm tetris worm

I then commented the above from .Xdefaults and added the following
line at the end of .xinitrc file

xidle -delay 3 -sw -program /usr/X11R6/bin/xlock -mode bat -timeout 5

Could anyone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Matthew Weigel
Neko wrote:

 this is the future. people use multiple os on their machine

That's actually the past... multibooting seemed way more popular ten years ago
than now.  I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that most people - even
if their machine is set up to boot multiple systems - really just use one OS
per computer.  On the other hand, CIFS/NFS network storage devices are cheap,
and people can use them whether they dual boot, or simply have multiple
machines on their network.  Then too, a lot of people just use boring old
thumb drives to store data that all their systems can use.
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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Denis Doroshenko
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Neko wrote:

 this is the future. people use multiple os on their machine

 That's actually the past... multibooting seemed way more popular ten years ago
 than now.  I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that most people - even
 if their machine is set up to boot multiple systems - really just use one OS
 per computer.

have you done any analysis of statistical data in order to say so?
otherwise all those way more popular, most people it is a big IYHO.

  On the other hand, CIFS/NFS network storage devices are cheap,
 and people can use them whether they dual boot, or simply have multiple
 machines on their network.  Then too, a lot of people just use boring old
 thumb drives to store data that all their systems can use.

well with NFS i'd agree, in case there is a robust free NFS implementation
for MS Windows (haven't looked for that myself, as I don't seem to have NFS
storage in my home LAN).

WRT thumb drives, well they still need some FS to be on them, and
fat32 would be a winner (for actual primitiveness thus being supported
by anyone), but there is a serious (these days it is) limitation like
limited maximal size of a file like 2G (must be 2^31-1 perhaps).
actually NTFS seems the *only* sufficiently capable FS within the
Microsoft products these days...

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mfs memory exaustion

2008-10-26 Thread Federico Giannici
We have an OpenBSD 4.3-stable server that uses mfs for the /tmp 
partition (to increase speed with little temporary files).


After a lot of days of usage (currently 43) it results that the mfs 
partition is used for a large part, but there are almost no files there!



Here it is the df output:

Filesystem  1K-blocks  Used Avail Capacity  Mounted on
/dev/wd0a30958980   4446936  2496409615%/
/dev/wd0e   261194190   3267932 244866550 1%/var
mfs:4603   96750340105951806944%/tmp


And here it is the ls -lR /tmp/ output:

total 4
drwxrwxrwt  2 root  wheel  512 Sep 12 10:35 .ICE-unix/
drwxrwxrwt  2 root  wheel  512 Sep 12 10:35 .X11-unix/
-rw---  1 mail  wheel0 Oct 25 06:19 .spamassassin18545wccAsYtmp
drwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  512 Oct 26 02:17 clamdb/
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   17 Oct 26 09:05 mailstat-localhost.old

/tmp/.ICE-unix:

/tmp/.X11-unix:

/tmp/clamdb:
total 8
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   396 Oct 26 08:17 MSRBL-IMAGES-UpdateSession.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel   399 Oct 26 08:17 MSRBL-SPAM-UpdateSession.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  2092 Oct 26 08:17 PHISH-UpdateSession.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel  2239 Oct 26 08:17 SCAM-UpdateSession.log
-rw-r--r--  1 root  wheel 0 Oct 26 08:17 test.file


As you can see, there aren't 400MB of files in the /tmp partition!

Is this a bug or a known problem of the mfs driver?


Thanks.

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Re: mfs memory exaustion

2008-10-26 Thread Peter J. Philipp

Federico Giannici wrote:


As you can see, there aren't 400MB of files in the /tmp partition!

Is this a bug or a known problem of the mfs driver?


Thanks.



Try to use fstat to find any descriptors to files in /tmp, the method of 
keeping a filedescriptor on a deleted file is common which will reflect 
on your filesystem but not the files in it.


-p



Re: mfs memory exaustion

2008-10-26 Thread Saj Goonatilleke
Hi,

On Sun Oct 26, 2008 at 10:14:39 +0100, Federico Giannici wrote:
 We have an OpenBSD 4.3-stable server that uses mfs for the /tmp partition 
 (to increase speed with little temporary files).

 After a lot of days of usage (currently 43) it results that the mfs 
 partition is used for a large part, but there are almost no files there!

You may have running processes holding files open that have since been 
unlinked from /tmp or its children.  df(1) will highlight this 
utilisation, but not tools like ls(1) or du(1).  The latter can only 
report what they see in your file system directories.

Try an fstat -f /tmp.

Cheers,

Saj



Re: mfs memory exaustion

2008-10-26 Thread Federico Giannici

Peter J. Philipp wrote:

Federico Giannici wrote:


As you can see, there aren't 400MB of files in the /tmp partition!

Is this a bug or a known problem of the mfs driver?


Thanks.



Try to use fstat to find any descriptors to files in /tmp, the method of 
keeping a filedescriptor on a deleted file is common which will reflect 
on your filesystem but not the files in it.


It worked: there was a stucked program that somehow had deleted files 
that used all that memory!


Thanks.

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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread James
Jonathan Schleifer js-openbsd-misc at webkeks.org writes:
  
 Not only that it is GPL, it also needs fuse. AFAIK, there is no fuse  
 for OpenBSD yet. And it's not running in the kernel space anyway, so  
 why the hell merge it?
 
 --
 Jonathan
Anyone looking at/working on porting the NetBSD putter/puffs/librefuse code to
OpenBSD?  That seems the quickest path to fuse/ntfs-3g in openbsd.



Weird: Cant open xterms if network is inconsistent

2008-10-26 Thread Edd Barrett
Hi guys,

This is just plain odd. I thought it was something I was doing wrong,
but now several people I have shown also agree this is strange (you
guys are all CC'd in).

$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig ral0 nwid b0rk
$ sudo /sbin/ifconfig ral0
ral0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500
lladdr 00:12:0e:61:5b:74
groups: wlan egress
media: IEEE802.11 autoselect
status: no network
ieee80211: nwid b0rk 100dBm
inet6 fe80::212:eff:fe61:5b74%ral0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
inet 192.168.84.91 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 192.168.84.255

Now we are in a state where the wireless network can't work, there is
no such network as 'b0rk'

Now xterms will not run. BUT... If I switch from xfce to cwm, I do not
observe this behavior.

Here is a ktrace:
 19446 ktrace   RET   ktrace 0
 19446 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xcfbec0c0,0xcfbec618,0xcfbec620)
 19446 ktrace   NAMI  /bin/xterm
 19446 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 19446 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xcfbec0c0,0xcfbec618,0xcfbec620)
 19446 ktrace   NAMI  /usr/bin/xterm
 19446 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 19446 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xcfbec0c0,0xcfbec618,0xcfbec620)
 19446 ktrace   NAMI  /usr/local/bin/xterm
 19446 ktrace   RET   execve -1 errno 2 No such file or directory
 19446 ktrace   CALL  execve(0xcfbec0c0,0xcfbec618,0xcfbec620)
 19446 ktrace   NAMI  /usr/X11R6/bin/xterm

What we see here is the shell (ksh) looking for the xterm binary,
finding it, but never executing it.

Oga@ suggested I build a debug libc and get a backtrace. Here this is:
(gdb) bt
#0  0x04a01f1d in read () from /usr/lib/libc.so.49.0
#1  0x083711b0 in _IceTransSocketRead () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.8.1
#2  0x08371f85 in _IceTransRead () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.8.1
#3  0x08373df6 in _IceRead () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.8.1
#4  0x083743a8 in IceProcessMessages () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.8.1
#5  0x0afe5a23 in SmcOpenConnection () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.8.0
#6  0x0a29b7e0 in JoinSession () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0
#7  0x0a298617 in SessionInitialize () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0
#8  0x0a27cd01 in CallInitialize () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0
#9  0x0a27d218 in xtCreate () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0
#10 0x0a27db08 in _XtAppCreateShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0
#11 0x0a27dbcd in XtAppCreateShell () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0
#12 0x0a288027 in XtOpenApplication () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0
#13 0x1c01d397 in ?? ()
#14 0x3c0167a0 in environ ()
#15 0x3c007d24 in ?? ()
#16 0x3c00dfc0 in __progname ()
#17 0x008e in ?? ()
#18 0xcfbc4354 in ?? ()
#19 0x89d86020 in ?? ()
#20 0x3c00df80 in __progname ()
#21 0x2a271a20 in sessionResources () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.10.0
#22 0x in ?? ()

If I then fix/take down the network interface, within 10 seconds the
process will unblock and the xterms will appear.

Further, if you start xfce in an inconsistent state, it wont start. As
soon as you fix or take down the wifi, it starts.

I used to think this only happened on ral, but come to think of it my
wi did this too.
My question is why is this happening?

OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #1113: Mon Oct 20 17:51:31 MDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC
cpu0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1700MHz (GenuineIntel 686-class) 600 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,TM,SBF,EST,TM2
real mem  = 1072656384 (1022MB)
avail mem = 1028677632 (981MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 09/22/05, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xfd750, SMBIOS rev. 2.33 @ 0xe0010 (57 entries)
bios0: vendor IBM version 1QET97WW (3.02 ) date 09/22/2005
bios0: IBM 2673W7Z
apm0 at bios0: Power Management spec V1.2
apm0: battery life expectancy 85%
apm0: AC off, battery charge high, estimated 2:30 hours
acpi at bios0 function 0x0 not configured
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xfd6e0/0x920
pcibios0: PCI IRQ Routing Table rev 1.0 @ 0xfdea0/272 (15 entries)
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:31:0 (Intel 82371FB ISA rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #6 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000
0xdc000/0x4000! 0xe/0x1
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 600 MHz (956 mV): speeds: 1700, 1400, 1200,
1000, 800, 600 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel 82855PM Host rev 0x03
ppb0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Intel 82855PM AGP rev 0x03
pci1 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci1 dev 0 function 0 ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY rev 0x00
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
agp0 at vga1: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000
radeondrm0 at vga1: ATI Radeon LY RV100 Mobility M6(0), 1.29.0 20080613
uhci0 at pci0 dev 29 function 0 Intel 82801DB USB rev 0x01: irq 11
uhci1 at pci0 dev 29 function 1 

Re: Openbgpd: IPv6 and unsupported capability

2008-10-26 Thread Henning Brauer
* Francois Deppierraz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-26 00:38]:
 Oct 25 23:16:05 router bgpd[31122]: neighbor 2001: (Peer1): received
 notification: error in OPEN message, unsupported capability
 Oct 25 23:16:05 router bgpd[31122]: neighbor 2001: (Peer1): received
 unsupported capability notification without data part, disabling
 capability announcements altogether

the peer (quagga?) sens us said notification without including the
capability it doesn't like, and then we have to disable all
caabilities - one of them is v6.

unfortunately there is no config button to disable specific
capabilities... you could try to play with the defaults in alloc_peer()
in parse.y

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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread William Boshuck
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:57:04AM +0200, Denis Doroshenko wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Neko wrote:
 
  this is the future. people use multiple os on their machine
 
  That's actually the past... multibooting seemed way more popular ten years 
  ago
  than now.  I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say that most people - 
  even
  if their machine is set up to boot multiple systems - really just use one OS
  per computer.
 
 have you done any analysis of statistical data in order to say so?
 otherwise all those way more popular, most people it is a big IYHO.

Yes, and English speakers typically announce this with
words like seemed and I'm going to go out on a limb
here.



Re: xidle, xlock with awesome window manager

2008-10-26 Thread Darrin Chandler
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 05:33:34PM +1100, Chris wrote:
 xidle -delay 3 -sw -program /usr/X11R6/bin/xlock -mode bat -timeout 5

 Could anyone please tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Do you have the above line starting in the background (with ) before
invoking awesome? I haven't been using xidle but xautolock, which has
worked fine for me for many years. Here's a .xinitrc from one machine:

xautolock -time 5 -locker xlock -mode blank -lockdelay 15 
ion3# my wm. yours would be awesome

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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread bofh
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Denis Doroshenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 by anyone), but there is a serious (these days it is) limitation like
 limited maximal size of a file like 2G (must be 2^31-1 perhaps).
 actually NTFS seems the *only* sufficiently capable FS within the
 Microsoft products these days...

Microsoft is actually trying to popularize fatx (the same file system
used in xboxes).  That's probably going to be the new fat32.


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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Vadim Zhukov
On 26 October 2008 c. 17:34:07 bofh wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 3:57 AM, Denis Doroshenko

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  by anyone), but there is a serious (these days it is) limitation
  like limited maximal size of a file like 2G (must be 2^31-1
  perhaps). actually NTFS seems the *only* sufficiently capable FS
  within the Microsoft products these days...

 Microsoft is actually trying to popularize fatx (the same file system
 used in xboxes).  That's probably going to be the new fat32.

It lacks some information in header that is present in FAT32, so unlikely
it'll replace FAT32. It's good for simle, I ever say dump, devices only.

http://www.xbox-linux.org/wiki/Differences_between_Xbox_FATX_and_MS-DOS_FAT

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hp compaq 6510b acpitz/fan/ac problem

2008-10-26 Thread Rafal Brodewicz
Hello.

My machine (hp compaq 6510b) has some strange problem related with
acpi/thermalzone/ac.

When I power it on with ac plugged-in, all seems to work fine.
But when I unplug ac following things happens:

1. About every 10 second below message shows up:
acpitz2: TZ5_: failed to read _TMP
acpitz2: TZ5_: failed to read temp

2. CPU temperature start to rise slowly, even if CPU is 100% idle.

3. When temperature gets to about 50 degC, fan speed up and acpitz
   message stops showing up.

4. When fan cools down CPU to 45 degC, acpitz message again
   shows up on console, CPU temperature start to rise,
   fan cools cpu, etc...

5. If I plug in ac, it doesn't help.
   
6. If reboot it in that state then there's a difference in acpitz
   kernel message while booting (dmsg included), but above loop still
   ocurs.

7. Only powering off and on with ac connected solve the problem.



dmesg (ac connected, powering on)
OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC.MP) #46: Sat Oct 25 17:43:05 CEST 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC.MP
real mem = 1051684864 (1002MB)
avail mem = 1020854272 (973MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xf2a9f (25 entries)
bios0: vendor Hewlett-Packard version 68DDU Ver. F.13 date 08/18/2008
bios0: Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq 6510b (GB866EA#AKD)
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SLIC HPET APIC MCFG TCPA SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices C0B0(S5) C108(S3) C10F(S3) C110(S3) C111(S3) C119(S3) 
C11A(S3) C11B(S3) C131(S5) C2A1(S5) C132(S0) C137(S0) C134(S5) C2A2(S5) C23D(S5)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz, 1795.74 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG
cpu0: 2MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7100 @ 1.80GHz, 1795.50 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG
cpu1: 2MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
ioapic0 at mainbus0 apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 1
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 2 (C0B0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus 8 (C11D)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 16 (C131)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 24 (C132)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 40 (C134)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 0 (C003)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0
acpicpu1 at acpi0
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 105 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature 108 degC
acpitz2 at acpi0: critical temperature 110 degC
acpitz3 at acpi0: critical temperature 256 degC
acpitz4 at acpi0: critical temperature 108 degC
acpibat0 at acpi0: C23B model Primary serial 43469 2007/04/27 type LIon oem 
Hewlett-Packard
acpibat1 at acpi0: C23A not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpibtn0 at acpi0: C2BF
acpibtn1 at acpi0: C153
acpivideo at acpi0 not configured
cpu0: unknown Enhanced SpeedStep CPU, msr 0x0617092506000925
cpu0: using only highest and lowest power states
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1800 MHz (1292 mV): speeds: 1800, 1200 MHz
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel GM965 Host rev 0x0c
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GM965 Video rev 0x0c
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
agp0 at vga1: aperture at 0xd000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1
Intel GM965 Video rev 0x0c at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 16 (irq 
10)
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 17 (irq 
10)
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: apic 1 int 18 (irq 
11)
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801H HD Audio rev 0x03: apic 1 int 
16 (irq 10)
azalia0: codec[s]: Analog Devices/0x1981, ATT/Lucent/0x1040, using Analog 
Devices/0x1981
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03
pci1 at ppb0 bus 8
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03: apic 1 int 17 (irq 
10)
pci2 at ppb1 bus 16
wpi0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG rev 0x02: apic 1 int 
17 (irq 10), MoW2, address 00:1b:77:16:56:9a
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03: apic 1 int 18 (irq 
11)
pci3 at ppb2 bus 24
bge0 at pci3 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5787M rev 0x02, BCM5754/5787 A2 
(0xb002): apic 1 int 18 (irq 11), address 00:17:a4:e8:2a:06
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5787 10/100/1000baseT PHY, rev. 0
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03: 

Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Ted Unangst

If you need to write to ntfs, you're doing it wrong.

On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:12 PM, Neko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

so there can be an end to this retard cant write on the file  
system bs


http://www.ntfs-3g.org/


so will it be merged in the next obsd release ?
this is the future. people use multiple os on their machine, not just
vm , they will local install too, so action should be taken to have
a filesystem stream that can be viewed by anyone,


neko




Re: Dell XPS M1330 Ethernet support?

2008-10-26 Thread Kevin Cornies
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 09:20:14PM +0900, Jordi Beltran Creix wrote:
 I recently acquired a Dell opensource laptop and am trying to
 install OpenBSD on it. But I am having a problem with the Ethernet.
 The device is detected as a Broadcom chipset and is managed by the bge
 driver. This is all from a i386 4.3 CD but I had the same problem with
 an old 4.4 snapshot.
  bge0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5906NP rev 0x02, 
  BCM5906A2(0xc002): irq 10, address ...
 If I ifconfig from the (s)hell I can set up everything but it
 complains that status: no carrier. And indeed there is no light
 whatsoever in the socket.
 The device works in Ubuntu with the Tigon3 driver, so I suspected it
 could need some sort of firmware, but this is not the Intel wireless
 and everything else is supposed to be more or less open. The laptop is
 listed as working(minus ACPI) as of 4.2 in /i386-laptop.html although
 its dmesg doesn't quite agree:
 Broadcom BCM5906M rev 0x02 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 not configured
 Has anyone managed to get 1330 Ethernet to work?
 
 Thank you
 

Works in Oct 15th -current.

bge0 at pci4 dev 0 function 0 Broadcom BCM5906M rev 0x02, BCM5906 A2 
(0xc002): apic 2 int 17 (irq 10), address 00:1d:09:39:50:49
brgphy0 at bge0 phy 1: BCM5906 10/100baseTX PHY, rev. 0



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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Matthew Weigel
Denis Doroshenko wrote:

 have you done any analysis of statistical data in order to say so?
 otherwise all those way more popular, most people it is a big IYHO.

William Boshuck has the measure of my response to that.

 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 9:10 AM, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On the other hand, CIFS/NFS network storage devices are cheap,
 and people can use them whether they dual boot, or simply have multiple
 machines on their network.  Then too, a lot of people just use boring old
 thumb drives to store data that all their systems can use.
 
 well with NFS i'd agree, in case there is a robust free NFS implementation
 for MS Windows (haven't looked for that myself, as I don't seem to have NFS
 storage in my home LAN).

I'm not sure exactly what you're saying here... I'm talking about NAS devices
that export their filesystem via CIFS and NFS, so that virtually every modern
operating system can use it.  See, for example, this device:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822111012

 WRT thumb drives, well they still need some FS to be on them, and
 fat32 would be a winner (for actual primitiveness thus being supported
 by anyone), but there is a serious (these days it is) limitation like
 limited maximal size of a file like 2G (must be 2^31-1 perhaps).

Actually, (2^32)-1, or 4GB, is the max size per file
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463).  I can see that being a problem if
you're trying to run a database off of your thumb drive, but otherwise... can
you give examples of files that you (or anyone you know) would like to access
in Windows and OpenBSD that exceed this limit?
-- 
 Matthew Weigel
 hacker
 unique  idempot.ent



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Chris Kuethe
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Actually, (2^32)-1, or 4GB, is the max size per file
 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463).  I can see that being a problem if
 you're trying to run a database off of your thumb drive, but otherwise... can
 you give examples of files that you (or anyone you know) would like to access
 in Windows and OpenBSD that exceed this limit?

dvd images are often 4.2G


-- 
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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:01:40PM -0700, Chris Kuethe wrote:
| On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  Actually, (2^32)-1, or 4GB, is the max size per file
|  (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463).  I can see that being a problem if
|  you're trying to run a database off of your thumb drive, but otherwise... 
can
|  you give examples of files that you (or anyone you know) would like to 
access
|  in Windows and OpenBSD that exceed this limit?
| 
| dvd images are often 4.2G

I agree with Chris here .. the only time I've wanted to transport
large files between windows and basically !windows (macosx, linux and
*bsd) they were ISO's of either regular CD's (works) or DVD's (doesn't
fit in fat32). 

Happened to me on a couple of occassions that I wanted to do this and
had to resort to network transfers (non-optimal in those
circumstances).

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

-- 
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+++-].++[-]+.--.[-]
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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Actually, (2^32)-1, or 4GB, is the max size per file
 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463).  I can see that being a
 problem if you're trying to run a database off of your thumb drive,
 but otherwise... can you give examples of files that you (or anyone
 you know) would like to access in Windows and OpenBSD that exceed
 this limit?

2^31 - 1. Seems to be signed. At least, the orignal implementation from
Microsoft has this limit.

--
Jonathan

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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Alexey Suslikov
Paul de Weerd wrote:

 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:01:40PM -0700, Chris Kuethe wrote:
 | On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  Actually, (2^32)-1, or 4GB, is the max size per file
 |  (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463).  I can see that being a problem 
 if
 |  you're trying to run a database off of your thumb drive, but otherwise... 
 can
 |  you give examples of files that you (or anyone you know) would like to 
 access
 |  in Windows and OpenBSD that exceed this limit?
 |
 | dvd images are often 4.2G

 I agree with Chris here .. the only time I've wanted to transport
 large files between windows and basically !windows (macosx, linux and
 *bsd) they were ISO's of either regular CD's (works) or DVD's (doesn't
 fit in fat32).

 Happened to me on a couple of occassions that I wanted to do this and
 had to resort to network transfers (non-optimal in those
 circumstances).

Come on guys.

I believe OpenBSD can do read/write on ext2. No?

And there is the http://www.fs-driver.org/ - also free
and do read/write on ext2 for Windows.

Alexey



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Alexey Suslikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And there is the http://www.fs-driver.org/ - also free
 and do read/write on ext2 for Windows.

Crashed my ext2 data partition more than once, but I could always
recover it with e2fsck, but the files in / all lost their names then.
However, the stuff in sub directories still had names. So /foo/bar
was /lost+found/$inode_no/bar after e2fsck.

--
Jonathan

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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Paul de Weerd
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:51:38PM +0200, Alexey Suslikov wrote:
| Paul de Weerd wrote:
| 
|  On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:01:40PM -0700, Chris Kuethe wrote:
|  | On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:
|  |  Actually, (2^32)-1, or 4GB, is the max size per file
|  |  (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463).  I can see that being a 
problem if
|  |  you're trying to run a database off of your thumb drive, but 
otherwise... can
|  |  you give examples of files that you (or anyone you know) would like to 
access
|  |  in Windows and OpenBSD that exceed this limit?
|  |
|  | dvd images are often 4.2G
| 
|  I agree with Chris here .. the only time I've wanted to transport
|  large files between windows and basically !windows (macosx, linux and
|  *bsd) they were ISO's of either regular CD's (works) or DVD's (doesn't
|  fit in fat32).
| 
|  Happened to me on a couple of occassions that I wanted to do this and
|  had to resort to network transfers (non-optimal in those
|  circumstances).
| 
| Come on guys.
| 
| I believe OpenBSD can do read/write on ext2. No?
| 
| And there is the http://www.fs-driver.org/ - also free
| and do read/write on ext2 for Windows.

True, but it's an external add-on that you may not always be able to
install on the windows machine (which in my case usually isn't mine).
OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux, Mac OSX .. they all have 'native'
support for FAT32.

Granted, I don't see an easy solution for this issue (because in
essence it would mean that all others need proper ntfs support).

Cheers,

Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd

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+++-].++[-]+.--.[-]
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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Alexey Suslikov
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Jonathan Schleifer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alexey Suslikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 And there is the http://www.fs-driver.org/ - also free
 and do read/write on ext2 for Windows.

 Crashed my ext2 data partition more than once, but I could always
 recover it with e2fsck, but the files in / all lost their names then.
 However, the stuff in sub directories still had names. So /foo/bar
 was /lost+found/$inode_no/bar after e2fsck.

So?

I crashed many FAT32 partitions. NTFS is kinda complex
to crash but, as discussed above, it is hard to access in
full-blown read/write mode from non-Windows.

Don't want to use ext2? You have more choices.

Go http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/index.php and help this guy
to add write support to FFS driver for Windows.

Alexey



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Jonathan Schleifer
Alexey Suslikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I crashed many FAT32 partitions. NTFS is kinda complex
 to crash but, as discussed above, it is hard to access in
 full-blown read/write mode from non-Windows.

Did you crash yoru FAT32 partitions on a regular basis? The ext2
crashed every 2 - 4 weeks.

--
Jonathan

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Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Alexey Suslikov
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Paul de Weerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:51:38PM +0200, Alexey Suslikov wrote:
 | Paul de Weerd wrote:
 |
 |  On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:01:40PM -0700, Chris Kuethe wrote:
 |  | On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 |  |  Actually, (2^32)-1, or 4GB, is the max size per file
 |  |  (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463).  I can see that being a 
 problem if
 |  |  you're trying to run a database off of your thumb drive, but 
 otherwise... can
 |  |  you give examples of files that you (or anyone you know) would like 
 to access
 |  |  in Windows and OpenBSD that exceed this limit?
 |  |
 |  | dvd images are often 4.2G
 | 
 |  I agree with Chris here .. the only time I've wanted to transport
 |  large files between windows and basically !windows (macosx, linux and
 |  *bsd) they were ISO's of either regular CD's (works) or DVD's (doesn't
 |  fit in fat32).
 | 
 |  Happened to me on a couple of occassions that I wanted to do this and
 |  had to resort to network transfers (non-optimal in those
 |  circumstances).
 |
 | Come on guys.
 |
 | I believe OpenBSD can do read/write on ext2. No?
 |
 | And there is the http://www.fs-driver.org/ - also free
 | and do read/write on ext2 for Windows.

 True, but it's an external add-on that you may not always be able to
 install on the windows machine (which in my case usually isn't mine).
 OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux, Mac OSX .. they all have 'native'
 support for FAT32.

Nope. Create a small FAT32 partition on this drive and put
a driver on it. How small, it is your choice. It can be 32Gb
(a recommended maximum for FAT32) on these modern
1TB USB drives.

I believe if you google enough you'll find an Ext2 driver for
MacOS.

Alexey



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Alexey Suslikov
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:22 PM, Jonathan Schleifer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alexey Suslikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I crashed many FAT32 partitions. NTFS is kinda complex
 to crash but, as discussed above, it is hard to access in
 full-blown read/write mode from non-Windows.

 Did you crash yoru FAT32 partitions on a regular basis? The ext2
 crashed every 2 - 4 weeks.

So you have no choice but cry.

Alexey



Re: ftp-proxy and IP alias

2008-10-26 Thread Chris Smith
On Wed, Oct 22, 2008 at 11:52 PM, Chris Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Was finally able to test the reboot scenario and two instances of
 ftp-proxy do not get started from rc.conf.local. Needed to run the
 second instance from rc.local.

Just wondering whether or not it's more proper to start the second
instance of ftp-proxy in rc.local (which I'm doing now) or to start it
in rc.securelevel ?

Thank you,

Chris



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread J.C. Roberts
On Sunday 26 October 2008, Paul de Weerd wrote:
 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 09:51:38PM +0200, Alexey Suslikov wrote:
 | Paul de Weerd wrote:
 |  On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 12:01:40PM -0700, Chris Kuethe wrote:
 |  | On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Matthew Weigel 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 |  |  Actually, (2^32)-1, or 4GB, is the max size per file
 |  |  (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/314463).  I can see that
 |  |  being a problem if you're trying to run a database off of
 |  |  your thumb drive, but otherwise... can you give examples of
 |  |  files that you (or anyone you know) would like to access in
 |  |  Windows and OpenBSD that exceed this limit?
 |  |
 |  | dvd images are often 4.2G
 | 
 |  I agree with Chris here .. the only time I've wanted to transport
 |  large files between windows and basically !windows (macosx, linux
 |  and *bsd) they were ISO's of either regular CD's (works) or DVD's
 |  (doesn't fit in fat32).
 | 
 |  Happened to me on a couple of occassions that I wanted to do this
 |  and had to resort to network transfers (non-optimal in those
 |  circumstances).
 |
 | Come on guys.
 |
 | I believe OpenBSD can do read/write on ext2. No?
 |
 | And there is the http://www.fs-driver.org/ - also free
 | and do read/write on ext2 for Windows.

 True, but it's an external add-on that you may not always be able to
 install on the windows machine (which in my case usually isn't mine).
 OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Linux, Mac OSX .. they all have 'native'
 support for FAT32.

 Granted, I don't see an easy solution for this issue (because in
 essence it would mean that all others need proper ntfs support).


Hi Paul,

It seems you and others are missing the obvious; If Microsoft actually 
wanted other operating system vendors to read and write NTFS, they 
would have provided the specifications.

Trying to build and maintain compatibility with a vendor which 
specifically doesn't want you to build or maintain compatibility is an 
exercise in futility. There is no easy solution because Microsoft does 
not want an easy solution to exist. If anyone does create an easy 
solution, Microsoft will undoubtedly, once again, change things so they 
remain incompatible. --Oh and don't forget MS FAT/FAT32 is patent 
encumbered so the only reason why you still have native support for 
it is because Microsoft has not pushed the issue in the courts or 
taking the time to write a new incompatible version of FAT32.

If you consider an ever changing, undocumented, closed source file 
system to be a problem, the best thing you can do is migrate to using 
something else.

OpenBSD does provide read access to NTFS for the sake of faster 
migration, but even this is fairly unnecessary since one could transfer 
the data over a network connection. There's no reason to bloat the 
OpenBSD kernel with a feature designed as a fast solution to a 
temporary problem, namely migration.

The answer is not fighting for NTFS support, instead, the answer is 
migrating away from NTFS. If someone absolutely insists on running 
something intentionally incompatible, the only viable answer is to 
leave them out in the cold until they change their mind.

Kind Regards,
Jon



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Neko
way to be openminded.
keep using what we feed you, effortlessly.

somhow here , most people i know use 4 os, dos/ms/lin/bsd

oddly enough freebsd / osx have compatibility by default. but they wouldnt know 
would they.


neko

i considered your mail as troll


--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Matthew Weigel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver  ready to merge on cvs obsd ?
 To: OpenBSD misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 3:10 AM
 Neko wrote:
 
  this is the future. people use multiple os on their
 machine
 
 That's actually the past... multibooting seemed way
 more popular ten years ago
 than now.  I'm going to go out on a limb here, and say
 that most people - even
 if their machine is set up to boot multiple systems -
 really just use one OS
 per computer.  On the other hand, CIFS/NFS network storage
 devices are cheap,
 and people can use them whether they dual boot, or simply
 have multiple
 machines on their network.  Then too, a lot of people just
 use boring old
 thumb drives to store data that all their systems can use.
 -- 
  Matthew Weigel
  hacker
  unique  idempot.ent



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Neko
its shows that some poor trolls here dont own ultraportables with no
external drives, and use more than one os alternative.

i pass data from bsd to fat 32 so in m$ its then copy onto ntfs,
i have 1 disk - 8 os, 

nothing is being done , but more and more ultraportables sells,


yes it could be resolv into using an ext2 partition instead, but that 
is not resolving a problem its going around it covering eyes and ears.

my stuff works, its just a pain , and ffs driver in windooz cant 
read more than one disklabel.  bsd suggest using more than one partition,
in that problem , one is the solution,  next time i wont RTFM, and do
as i see fit because their more opinions than guidlines.

now as for backwards bsd. why does freebsd write to ntfs? why does 
osx write to ntfs..  seems to me that is more some obstination done not
to support it.


shure im doing it wrong , because nothing is being done.

but shure a color-ls.pkg is more important if you ask me, SARCASTIC

neko


--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ted Unangst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver  ready to merge on cvs obsd ?
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: misc@openbsd.org misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 1:02 PM
 If you need to write to ntfs, you're doing it wrong.
 
 On Oct 25, 2008, at 9:12 PM, Neko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  so there can be an end to this retard cant write
 on the file  
  system bs
 
  http://www.ntfs-3g.org/
 
 
  so will it be merged in the next obsd release ?
  this is the future. people use multiple os on their
 machine, not just
  vm , they will local install too, so action should be
 taken to have
  a filesystem stream that can be viewed by anyone,
 
 
  neko



ntfs never ever ffs land obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Neko
im trying to report the issue of the ffs driver you sent me to its
developper, yes it can access disk labels.

yes it sees other disk labels,

but if you have /home on disk label d it wont work

my disklabel is kinda like so

bsd
wd0a /
wd0b -swap-
wd0c -disk-
wd0d /home

exotic
wd0i /dos
wd0j /xp
wd0k /ntfs

plus there is an ext2 and plan 9 partition.

linux does it all,
plan9 is self capsuled, but still accessible from linux,
xp reads all even the swap of linux,


i but bsd, ...
i have to pass all from ffs  fat32  ntfs or ntfs  fat32  ffs
and its not even a virtual volume in windows, its a phisical extended
partition.

i know its a warzone in the partitions fields when it come to multiple os
i have being dealing with this since bsd 3.7.

now i use bsd from 2.7 to 3.7 enjoying no microsolft products at all, not 
even linux, then i had to because of work /contract requirements,

now its 4.4 about 8y later, and nothing is done,

since my system grew from bsd, its on bsd, not ext2, ext3 or reiser,

shure its readable in hex and security sucks, but thats the point ,
readability.  but its odd, nothing reads it properly.


neko






--- On Sun, 10/26/08, Alexey Suslikov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Alexey Suslikov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?
 To: Jonathan Schleifer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: misc@openbsd.org
 Date: Sunday, October 26, 2008, 4:19 PM
 On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 10:11 PM, Jonathan Schleifer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Alexey Suslikov
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  And there is the http://www.fs-driver.org/ - also
 free
  and do read/write on ext2 for Windows.
 
  Crashed my ext2 data partition more than once, but I
 could always
  recover it with e2fsck, but the files in / all lost
 their names then.
  However, the stuff in sub directories still had names.
 So /foo/bar
  was /lost+found/$inode_no/bar after e2fsck.
 
 So?
 
 I crashed many FAT32 partitions. NTFS is kinda complex
 to crash but, as discussed above, it is hard to access in
 full-blown read/write mode from non-Windows.
 
 Don't want to use ext2? You have more choices.
 
 Go http://ffsdrv.sourceforge.net/index.php and help this
 guy
 to add write support to FFS driver for Windows.
 
 Alexey



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread Matthew Weigel
Neko wrote:

 somhow here , most people i know use 4 os, dos/ms/lin/bsd

OK, I'm genuinely curious: why do you run DOS on a machine that you also run
Windows on?  Why do you run Linux and OpenBSD on the same machine?

 oddly enough freebsd / osx have compatibility by default. but they wouldnt 
 know would they.

So... run FreeBSD or OS X as your fourth operating system instead of OpenBSD?
 I'm not sure if you noticed, but the whole REASON
FreeBSD/NetBSD/OpenBSD/Linux are different projects run by different people is
that they have differences of opinion on what's important, and what the right
way to do something is.

If you're having a problem sharing files, there are solutions far more
effective than complaining on [EMAIL PROTECTED]  If your goal is to solve your 
problem,
you can solve it.
-- 
 Matthew Weigel
 hacker
 unique  idempot.ent



Re: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver ready to merge on cvs obsd ?

2008-10-26 Thread bofh
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 8:00 PM, Neko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 shure im doing it wrong , because nothing is being done.

 but shure a color-ls.pkg is more important if you ask me, SARCASTIC


So, what I'm seeing is that you're now being sarcastic because you
want something that is not currently provided, and you feel that the
best way to get the developers to see things your way is to bitch and
moan?

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-- Sandhurst officer cadet evaluation.
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internal - is akin to trying to install sprinklers in a fireworks
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Copying large files between machines - was: NTFS-3G Stable Read/Write Driver blah-blah

2008-10-26 Thread Paul M

Various people wrote:
Transfering  2Gb files using a thumb drive is too hard ...


There's always split/cat

It may be inconvienient or unfeasable for very big files, but is simple 
enough to do.



molly:/molly1 du -sh bigfile1
4.3Gbigfile1
molly:/molly1 split -b 1000m bigfile1
molly:/molly1 cp xaa bigfile2
molly:/molly1 cat xab  bigfile2
molly:/molly1 cat xac  bigfile2
molly:/molly1 cat xad  bigfile2
molly:/molly1 cat xae  bigfile2
molly:/molly1 cmp bigfile[12]
molly:/molly1 sha1 bigfile[12]
SHA1 (bigfile1) = 895a25403c13b9f5ba64e2460ff898f3593a72e0
SHA1 (bigfile2) = 895a25403c13b9f5ba64e2460ff898f3593a72e0


Finding a windows 'split' utility is an exercise for the reader.


paulm



Re: relayd - tcp_write: connect timed out

2008-10-26 Thread uday
 For instance can you ensure that you can connect to the web server from
 the redirector(the machine running relayd) by using netcat?

 Run this on the web server.

 $ nc -l 1234

 and from the relayd machine try

 $ nc 192.168.4.78 1234

Well this worked out :

# nc 192.168.4.78 80
GET /
htmlbodyh1It works! web01 /h1/body/html

# nc 192.168.4.76 80
GET /
htmlbodyh1It works! web02 /h1/body/html


 For instance have you ensured that the web server and the clients are in
 separate networks connected/routed by the relayd machine?

My nodes have the relayd machine as default gateway. Is that sufficient ?

 There are certain unwritten ground rules to be followed for rdr to work.

 For instance if your reverse path does not match the forward path
 between the client and the server, then
 rdr will fail and the TCP handshake will not go through.

Okay, as a client we have a firewall that serves as our default
gateway for our laptops which 192.168.4.254. The relayd server has
that as a default gateway as well. But the nodes have the relayd
server as their default gateway so the forward/return should be
identical in my configuration if I'm not mistaken.

 Basically rdr should get a chance to see the packets in both directions
 to function properly.

Thanks for your kind attention to my problem, I'm still confused
though, I'll go ahead and tcpdump this and see where it takes me. I
would appreciate greater understanding of this.

Sincerely,

Uday



Re: relayd - tcp_write: connect timed out

2008-10-26 Thread uday
I think I'm on to something here, when I change the check
instructions from 'http / get 200' to 'icmp' I get no errors and the
relaying works like a charm (you should've seen my face). The issue is
to get relayd to check http correctly. I'll continue this and post my
results for the others after me.

uday



ciss hotspare

2008-10-26 Thread Steve Shockley
I've got a Compaq DL380 with a Smart Array 5300 (ciss), with four drives 
set up as a RAID 5 with hot spare.  The array was configured using the 
card's BIOS utility.


It appears one of the drives has failed, but the array hasn't rebuilt 
using the hot spare.  Any ideas if this is an OpenBSD issue or a Compaq 
issue?


sysctl hw.sensors:
hw.sensors.ciss0.drive0=online (sd0), OK

bioctl -i ciss0
Volume  Status   Size Device
ciss0 0 Online72829501440 sd0 RAID5
  0 Online36419584000 0:0.0   noencl COMPAQ  BD03685A24  
  1 Online36419584000 0:1.0   noencl COMPAQ  BD03685A24  
  2 Failed  0 0:2.0   noencl 
  3 Hot spare 36419584000 0:3.0   noencl COMPAQ  BD03688272  

dmesg:
OpenBSD 4.2 (GENERIC.MP) #252: Tue Aug 28 10:53:04 MDT 2007
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 931 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE

real mem  = 804859904 (767MB)
avail mem = 770043904 (734MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 12/31/99, BIOS32 rev. 0 @ 0xf, 
SMBIOS rev. 2.3 @ 0xf206c (25 entries)

bios0: vendor Compaq version P17 date 12/18/2002
bios0: Compaq ProLiant DL380
pcibios0 at bios0: rev 2.1 @ 0xf/0x2000
pcibios0: PCI BIOS has 7 Interrupt Routing table entries
pcibios0: PCI Interrupt Router at 000:15:0 (ServerWorks OSB4 rev 0x00)
pcibios0: PCI bus #1 is the last bus
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x8000 0xc8000/0x4000 0xe8000/0x6000 
0xee000/0x2000!

acpi at mainbus0 not configured
mainbus0: Intel MP Specification (Version 1.4)
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 1 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 132 MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 0 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel Pentium III (GenuineIntel 686-class) 931 MHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE

mainbus0: bus 0 is type PCI
mainbus0: bus 3 is type PCI
mainbus0: bus 9 is type ISA
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 8 pa 0xfec0, version 11, 35 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 0, remapped to apid 8
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1 (no bios)
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x05
pchb1 at pci0 dev 0 function 1 ServerWorks CNB20LE Host rev 0x05
pci1 at pchb1 bus 3
ciss0 at pci1 dev 4 function 0 Compaq Smart Array 5300 rev.2 rev 0x02: 
apic 8 int 11 (irq 11)

ciss0: 1 LD, HW rev 0, FW 3.54/3.54
scsibus0 at ciss0: 1 targets
sd0 at scsibus0 targ 0 lun 0: COMPAQ, LOGICAL VOLUME, 3.54 SCSI0 
0/direct fixed

sd0: 69455MB, 8854 cyl, 255 head, 63 sec, 512 bytes/sec, 142245120 sec total
fxp0 at pci1 dev 5 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x0d, i82550: apic 8 int 
15 (irq 15), address 00:02:b3:8f:14:2c

inphy0 at fxp0 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4
siop0 at pci0 dev 1 function 0 Symbios Logic 53c1510D rev 0x02: apic 8 
int 5 (irq 5), using 4K of on-board RAM

scsibus1 at siop0: 16 targets
siop1 at pci0 dev 1 function 1 Symbios Logic 53c1510D rev 0x02: apic 8 
int 11 (irq 11), using 4K of on-board RAM

scsibus2 at siop1: 16 targets
st0 at scsibus2 targ 6 lun 0: COMPAQ, SDT-1, 1.12 SCSI2 
1/sequential removable
fxp1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel 8255x rev 0x08, i82559: apic 8 int 
10 (irq 10), address 00:02:a5:28:55:62

inphy1 at fxp1 phy 1: i82555 10/100 PHY, rev. 4
ATI Mach64 GV rev 0x7a at pci0 dev 3 function 0 not configured
Compaq Netelligent ASMC rev 0x00 at pci0 dev 4 function 0 not configured
ppb0 at pci0 dev 5 function 0 Intel S21152BB PCI-PCI rev 0x00
pci2 at ppb0 bus 1
vga1 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 ATI Rage XL rev 0x27
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
Compaq Netelligent ASMC rev 0x00 at pci2 dev 1 function 0 not configured
vendor Compaq, unknown product 0x005a (class memory subclass 
miscellaneous, rev 0x00) at pci2 dev 2 function 0 not configured
vendor Compaq, unknown product 0x00b1 (class memory subclass 
miscellaneous, rev 0x01) at pci2 dev 4 function 0 not configured
piixpm0 at pci0 dev 15 function 0 ServerWorks OSB4 rev 0x4f: SMBus 
disabled

pciide0 at pci0 dev 15 function 1 ServerWorks OSB4 IDE rev 0x00: DMA
atapiscsi0 at pciide0 channel 0 drive 0
scsibus3 at atapiscsi0: 2 targets
cd0 at scsibus3 targ 0 lun 0: COMPAQ, CD-224E, 9.0B SCSI0 5/cdrom 
removable

cd0(pciide0:0:0): using PIO mode 4, DMA mode 2
pciide0: no compatibility interrupt for use by channel 1
isa0 at mainbus0
isadma0 at isa0
pckbc0 at isa0 port 0x60/5
pckbd0 at pckbc0 (kbd slot)
pckbc0: using irq 1 for kbd slot
wskbd0 at pckbd0: console keyboard, using wsdisplay0
pms0 at pckbc0 (aux slot)
pckbc0: using irq 12 for aux slot
wsmouse0 at pms0 mux 0
pcppi0 at isa0 port 0x61
midi0 at pcppi0: PC speaker
spkr0 at pcppi0
npx0 at isa0 port 0xf0/16: reported by CPUID; using exception 16
pccom0 at isa0 port 0x3f8/8 irq 4: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pccom1 at isa0 port 0x2f8/8 irq 3: ns16550a, 16 byte fifo
pctr: 

Re: relayd - tcp_write: connect timed out

2008-10-26 Thread Philip Guenther
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 6:41 PM, uday [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
 Well this worked out :

 # nc 192.168.4.78 80
 GET /
 htmlbodyh1It works! web01 /h1/body/html

 # nc 192.168.4.76 80
 GET /
 htmlbodyh1It works! web02 /h1/body/html

Ick: those are pre-HTTP-1.0 requests, as they lack a protocol and
version identifier.  What relayd actually sends is a HEAD request with
protocol HTTP/1.0.  You don't specify a hostname in your config, so it
doesn't send a Host: header field.  Try those again using something
like:
   printf HEAD / HTTP/1.0\r\n\r\n | nc 192.168.4.76 80

to better emulate the test made by relayd.


Philip Guenther



Re: ciss hotspare

2008-10-26 Thread bofh
On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 11:32 PM, Steve Shockley
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I've got a Compaq DL380 with a Smart Array 5300 (ciss), with four drives set
 up as a RAID 5 with hot spare.  The array was configured using the card's
 BIOS utility.

In my experience, with some of the smart arrays, you have to reboot
and rebuild the arrays before booting into the OS again.

YMMV and all that.



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amd64 -current -- weird behavior of tpb in non-MP kernel

2008-10-26 Thread Aaron Stellman
Hello misc@,
Experiencing weird behavior that happens in GENERIC, but doesn't happen
in GENERIC.MP. It's a Thinkpad T61 machine. I'm running sysutils/tpb to
see nice visual feedback regarding brightness change and other niceties
for thinkpads. Whenever I run it on GENERIC.MP its behaviour is as
expected. On the other hand, running it on GENERIC generates weird
events. Take a look here:

$ tpb -v
Home button pressed
Search button pressed
Mail button pressed
Home button pressed
Search button pressed
Mail button pressed
Power management mode AC changed: PM AC unknown
Power management mode battery changed: PM battery unknown
Power management mode AC changed: PM AC high
Power management mode battery changed: PM battery auto
Volume changed: Level 0
Volume changed: Level 50
Zoom is on
Zoom is off
Zoom is on
Zoom is off
Brightness changed: Level 0
Brightness changed: Level 100
Volume changed: Level 0
Volume changed: Level 50
Zoom is on
Zoom is off
Home button pressed
Search button pressed
Mail button pressed
Home button pressed
Search button pressed
Mail button pressed
Zoom is on
Zoom is off
Brightness changed: Level 0
Brightness changed: Level 100
Display changed: PM battery auto
HV Expansion is off
Display changed: LCD on, CRT off
HV Expansion is on

None of these events are real.
Notice, this laptop doesn't have home/search/mail/zoom buttons, so it's
obviously strange. Again, none of this happens on GENERIC.MP. 
Also notice, if I press brightness up / brightness down buttons, the 
actual brightness _does_ change, and proper event is generated.
acpidump(8) is available at http://www.x96.org/acpidump.txt.gz

OpenBSD 4.4-current (GENERIC) #0: Sun Oct 26 21:09:29 PDT 2008
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/src/sys/arch/amd64/compile/GENERIC
real mem = 2090835968 (1993MB)
avail mem = 2030034944 (1935MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (73 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version 7LETB9WW (2.19 ) date 06/06/2008
bios0: LENOVO 7658CTO
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT TCPA APIC MCFG HPET SLIC BOOT ASF! SSDT SSDT 
SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) LURT(S3) DURT(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP0(S4) 
EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) PCI1(S4) USB0(S3) USB1(S3) USB2(S3) 
USB3(S3) USB4(S3) EHC0(S3) EHC1(S3) HDEF(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus 4 (EXP2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus 5 (EXP3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus 13 (EXP4)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 21 (PCI1)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 127 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature 100 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 42T4530 serial   483 type LION oem SANYO
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
acpidock at acpi0 not configured
acpivideo at acpi0 not configured
acpivideo at acpi0 not configured
cpu0 at mainbus0: (uniprocessor)
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8300 @ 2.40GHz, 2394.39 MHz
cpu0: 
FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR,NXE,LONG
cpu0: 3MB 64b/line 8-way L2 cache
cpu0: unknown i686 model 7, can't get bus clockcpu0: EST: unknown system bus 
clock
pci0 at mainbus0 bus 0: configuration mode 1
pchb0 at pci0 dev 0 function 0 Intel GM965 Host rev 0x0c
vga1 at pci0 dev 2 function 0 Intel GM965 Video rev 0x0c
wsdisplay0 at vga1 mux 1: console (80x25, vt100 emulation)
wsdisplay0: screen 1-5 added (80x25, vt100 emulation)
agp0 at vga1: aperture at 0xe000, size 0x1000
inteldrm0 at vga1
Intel GM965 Video rev 0x0c at pci0 dev 2 function 1 not configured
em0 at pci0 dev 25 function 0 Intel ICH8 IGP M AMT rev 0x03: irq 11, address 
00:1c:25:76:fa:ea
uhci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 0 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 11
uhci1 at pci0 dev 26 function 1 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 11
ehci0 at pci0 dev 26 function 7 Intel 82801H USB rev 0x03: irq 11
usb0 at ehci0: USB revision 2.0
uhub0 at usb0 Intel EHCI root hub rev 2.00/1.00 addr 1
azalia0 at pci0 dev 27 function 0 Intel 82801H HD Audio rev 0x03: irq 11
azalia0: RIRB time out
azalia0: RIRB time out
azalia0: RIRB time out
azalia0: codec[s]: Analog Devices AD1984, Conexant/0x2bfa, using Analog Devices 
AD1984
audio0 at azalia0
ppb0 at pci0 dev 28 function 0 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03: irq 11
pci1 at ppb0 bus 2
ppb1 at pci0 dev 28 function 1 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03: irq 11
pci2 at ppb1 bus 3
iwn0 at pci2 dev 0 function 0 Intel Wireless WiFi Link 4965AGN rev 0x61: irq 
11, MIMO 2T3R, MoW1, address 00:1f:3b:03:b1:59
ppb2 at pci0 dev 28 function 2 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03: irq 11
pci3 at ppb2 bus 4
ppb3 at pci0 dev 28 function 3 Intel 82801H PCIE rev 0x03: irq 11
pci4 at ppb3 bus 5
ppb4 at pci0 dev 28 function 4 Intel