Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2010 Mar 05 (Fri) at 12:36:04 -0800 (-0800), J.C. Roberts wrote:
:The thing is, you've kind mixed things up because you didn't understand
:the context. STeve was doing *more* than just running the -current
:snapshot and packages. He was getting into -HEAD branch to help espie@
:out with testing of the new super cool toy, dpb3 (distributed package
:building). It was clearly announced as totally experimental for 4.7
:by espie@ on the ports@ mailing list.
:
:Not many people have the bandwidth and stack of systems required to do
:distributed builds of the *ENTIRE* ports tree. None the less, great
:people doing bulk builds is how your packages get built for all the
:mirrors. At present, they're still using the reliable old dpb rather
:than the new experimental one because the latter is still under heavy
:development and still needs more testing.

Being the guy that does the sparc package builds, I *am* running it with
the new dpb3.  The best way to get testing, is to use it.


(I'm also running dpb3 on my OpenBSD/loongson system, but that is just
for private use, and to find packages that fail to build ;) ).


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Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Peter Hessler
On 2010 Mar 06 (Sat) at 14:26:25 +0530 (+0530), Siju George wrote:
:On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org wrote:
:
: (I'm also running dpb3 on my OpenBSD/loongson system, but that is just
: for private use, and to find packages that fail to build ;) ).
:
:
:loongson seems to be a very low end cpu system. what is the special
:attraction towards it? :-)
:

sort version: its a laptop, and its not intel.


-- 
There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes.
-- Dr. Who



Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Siju George
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org wrote:

 (I'm also running dpb3 on my OpenBSD/loongson system, but that is just
 for private use, and to find packages that fail to build ;) ).


loongson seems to be a very low end cpu system. what is the special
attraction towards it? :-)

thanks

--Siju



Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 02:26:25PM +0530, Siju George wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org wrote:
 
  (I'm also running dpb3 on my OpenBSD/loongson system, but that is just
  for private use, and to find packages that fail to build ;) ).
 
 
 loongson seems to be a very low end cpu system. what is the special
 attraction towards it? :-)
 
 thanks
 
 --Siju

loongson has a very decent speed/power usage ratio. Also, i would not
consider it very low end. And in general, different than mainstream
hardware is attractive because it's, ehh, different. 

-Otto



Re: loongson was -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Eric Furman
Yea ,and its made by the Chinese.
Fuck China.
China is one of the worst murderous dictatorships
in the last 500 years.
If it was 1935 and the UberMensch PC would you
all be falling over yourselves to get one??
George Santayana is rolling over in his grave.
My appy poly loggies for my political rant.
Cary on...

On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:57 +0100, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org
wrote:
 On 2010 Mar 06 (Sat) at 14:26:25 +0530 (+0530), Siju George wrote:
 :On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org
 wrote:
 :
 : (I'm also running dpb3 on my OpenBSD/loongson system, but that is just
 : for private use, and to find packages that fail to build ;) ).
 :
 :
 :loongson seems to be a very low end cpu system. what is the special
 :attraction towards it? :-)
 :
 
 sort version: its a laptop, and its not intel.
 
 
 -- 
 There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes.
   -- Dr. Who



Re: loongson was -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Miod Vallat
 Yea ,and its made by the Chinese.

Just like most of the electronic devices being manufactured today.



Re: loongson was -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Scott McEachern

Eric Furman wrote:

Yea ,and its made by the Chinese.

  


Awww, what a *cute* little troll!  I wonder if he realizes ...

*squish*

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Re: loongson was -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Bret S. Lambert
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 05:07:36AM -0500, Eric Furman wrote:
 Yea ,and its made by the Chinese.

As opposed to your Thinkpad/Dell/HP/etc?

 Fuck China.
 China is one of the worst murderous dictatorships
 in the last 500 years.
 If it was 1935 and the UberMensch PC would you
 all be falling over yourselves to get one??
 George Santayana is rolling over in his grave.
 My appy poly loggies for my political rant.
 Cary on...
 
 On Sat, 06 Mar 2010 09:57 +0100, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org
 wrote:
  On 2010 Mar 06 (Sat) at 14:26:25 +0530 (+0530), Siju George wrote:
  :On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:25 PM, Peter Hessler phess...@theapt.org
  wrote:
  :
  : (I'm also running dpb3 on my OpenBSD/loongson system, but that is just
  : for private use, and to find packages that fail to build ;) ).
  :
  :
  :loongson seems to be a very low end cpu system. what is the special
  :attraction towards it? :-)
  :
  
  sort version: its a laptop, and its not intel.
  
  
  -- 
  There's no point in being grown up if you can't be childish sometimes.
  -- Dr. Who



Re: Filtering based on MAC adress

2010-03-06 Thread Jean-Francois
  What is the reason why some packets passing on re0 will not be seen on
  bridge0
  
  given I set up the following configuration :
  bridgename.bridge0
  add re0
  up
  
  I expected to see all the packets passing on re0 on bridge0 too which is
  obviously not the case.
 
 That would be wrong.  The bridge is a bridge, not a virtual software
 switch.
 
 It decides not to forward packets which don't need to hit the other
 segments.
 
 This is described very well in the manual page.
 
  # brconfig
  bridge0: flags=141UP,RUNNING,PROMISC
  
  priority 32768 hellotime 2 fwddelay 15 maxage 20 holdcnt 6 proto
  rstp re0 flags=3LEARNING,DISCOVER
  
  port 2 ifpriority 0 ifcost 0
  
  Addresses (max cache: 100, timeout: 240):
  00:1f:d0:d0:db:59 re0 1 flags=0
  00:22:b0:de:32:60 re0 1 flags=0
  
  # ifconfig
  re0: flags=8b43UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,PROMISC,ALLMULTI,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST
  mtu 1500
  
  lladdr 00:09:55:a9:72:81
  priority: 0
  groups: egress
  media: Ethernet autoselect (1000baseT
  full-duplex,rxpause,txpause) status: active
  inet6 fe80::208:55ff:aea8:7281%re0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2
  inet 10.0.1.44 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.1.255
  
  enc0: flags=0 mtu 1536
  
  priority: 0
  
  bridge0: flags=141UP,RUNNING,PROMISC mtu 1500
  
  priority: 0
  groups: bridge
  
  pflog0: flags=141UP,RUNNING,PROMISC mtu 33200
  
  priority: 0
  groups: pflog
  
  Regards.

I think it's just my mistake, I used to listen to bridge0 and therefore could 
see only broadcast packets.
#tcpdump -i bridge0

Is the rule :
#brconfig bridge0 rule pass in  on fxp0 src 9:8:7:6:5:4 tag boss
working in case bridge0 has only one member which means packets have nowhere 
to be forwarded ? Or do I need to make a virtual device in order that packets 
will be forwarded to it for the taggin rule to work ?

Regards



Bad behavior of sensorsd on laptop

2010-03-06 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Hi all,

I set sensorsd and sensorsd.conf this way :

# $OpenBSD: sensorsd.conf,v 1.8 2007/08/14 19:02:02 cnst Exp $

#
# Sample sensorsd.conf file. See sensorsd.conf(5) for details.
#

# +5 voltage (volts)
#hw.sensors.lm0.volt3:low=4.8V:high=5.2V

# +12 voltage (volts)
#hw.sensors.lm0.volt4:low=11.5V:high=12.5V

# Monitor laptop battery for remaining capacity
hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3:low=1.40Wh:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

# Chipset temperature (degrees Celsius)
#hw.sensors.lm0.temp0:high=50C
hw.sensors.acpitz0.temp0:high=60C:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff
hw.sensors.acpitz1.temp0:high=60C:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

# CPU temperature (degrees Celsius)
#hw.sensors.lm0.temp1:high=60C
hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0:high=65C:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

# CPU fan (RPM)
#hw.sensors.lm0.fan1:low=3000
hw.sensors.acpithinkpad0.fan0:low=2500:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

# ignore certain indicators on ipmi(4)
#hw.sensors.ipmi0.indicator1:istatus

# Warn if any temperature sensor is over 70 degC.
# This entry will match only those temperature sensors
# that don't have their own entry.
#temp:high=70C


# By default, sensorsd(8) reports status changes of all sensors that
# keep their state. Uncomment the following lines if you want to
# suppress reports about status changes of specific sensor types.

#temp:istatus
#fan:istatus
#volt:istatus
#acvolt:istatus
#resistance:istatus
#power:istatus
#current:istatus
#watthour:istatus
#amphour:istatus
#indicator:istatus
#raw:istatus
#percentage:istatus
#illuminance:istatus
#drive:istatus
#timedelta:istatus

Command is simple :

#!/bin/sh
shutdown -h now Shutdown caused by sensor

It's running from point of view that computer is turned off in case of
low battery or high battery on some of sensor which has command
assigned. Problem starts if your battery is empy and computer turned
off. So you plug AC and start laptop. If you are below limit for
hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3 then your laptop is turned off after
login again. It's quite understandable, but if you're above limit
behavior is still same. Is it problem this part from man page for
sensorsd.conf?

 If the limits are crossed or if the status provided by the driver
 changes, sensorsd(8)'s alert functionality is triggered and a command, if
 specified, is executed.

Battery status trough this sensor is changing because battery was
empty and now laptop is in AC and charging. Does it really mean that
it will turn off my computer after every change of battery status
untill my battery is fully recharged?

OpenBSD 4.7-beta (GENERIC.MP) #423: Tue Feb 23 12:24:22 MST 2010
dera...@i386.openbsd.org:/usr/src/sys/arch/i386/compile/GENERIC.MP
cpu0: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L7300 @ 1.40GHz (GenuineIntel
686-class) 1.40 GHz
cpu0: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR
real mem  = 2657374208 (2534MB)
avail mem = 2574045184 (2454MB)
mainbus0 at root
bios0 at mainbus0: AT/286+ BIOS, date 07/02/07, BIOS32 rev. 0 @
0xfdc80, SMBIOS rev. 2.4 @ 0xe0010 (63 entries)
bios0: vendor LENOVO version 7NET25WW (1.06 ) date 07/02/2007
bios0: LENOVO 766927G
acpi0 at bios0: rev 2
acpi0: tables DSDT FACP SSDT ECDT TCPA APIC MCFG HPET SLIC BOOT ASF!
SSDT SSDT SSDT SSDT
acpi0: wakeup devices LID_(S3) SLPB(S3) DURT(S3) IGBE(S4) EXP0(S4)
EXP1(S4) EXP2(S4) EXP3(S4) EXP4(S4) PCI1(S4) USB0(S3) USB1(S3)
USB2(S3) USB3(S3) USB4(S3) EHC0(S3) EHC1(S3) HDEF(S4)
acpitimer0 at acpi0: 3579545 Hz, 24 bits
acpimadt0 at acpi0 addr 0xfee0: PC-AT compat
cpu0 at mainbus0: apid 0 (boot processor)
cpu0: apic clock running at 199MHz
cpu1 at mainbus0: apid 1 (application processor)
cpu1: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU L7300 @ 1.40GHz (GenuineIntel
686-class) 1.40 GHz
cpu1: 
FPU,V86,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,APIC,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,PAT,PSE36,CFLUSH,DS,ACPI,MMX,FXSR,SSE,SSE2,SS,HTT,TM,SBF,SSE3,MWAIT,DS-CPL,VMX,EST,TM2,CX16,xTPR
ioapic0 at mainbus0: apid 1 pa 0xfec0, version 20, 24 pins
ioapic0: misconfigured as apic 2, remapped to apid 1
acpihpet0 at acpi0: 14318179 Hz
acpiprt0 at acpi0: bus 0 (PCI0)
acpiprt1 at acpi0: bus -1 (AGP_)
acpiprt2 at acpi0: bus 2 (EXP0)
acpiprt3 at acpi0: bus 3 (EXP1)
acpiprt4 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP2)
acpiprt5 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP3)
acpiprt6 at acpi0: bus -1 (EXP4)
acpiprt7 at acpi0: bus 5 (PCI1)
acpiec0 at acpi0
acpicpu0 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpicpu1 at acpi0: C3, C2, C1, PSS
acpipwrres0 at acpi0: PUBS
acpitz0 at acpi0: critical temperature 127 degC
acpitz1 at acpi0: critical temperature 99 degC
acpibtn0 at acpi0: LID_
acpibtn1 at acpi0: SLPB
acpibat0 at acpi0: BAT0 model 42T5247 serial   505 type LION oem SANYO
acpibat1 at acpi0: BAT1 not present
acpibat2 at acpi0: BAT2 not present
acpiac0 at acpi0: AC unit online
acpithinkpad0 at acpi0
acpidock0 at acpi0: GDCK not docked (0)
bios0: ROM list: 0xc/0x1! 0xd/0x1000 0xd1000/0x1000 0xe/0x1!
cpu0: Enhanced SpeedStep 1397 MHz: 

any known working configuration of OpenBGPd and CARP ?

2010-03-06 Thread Илья Шипицин
Hello!

we are running two OpenBSD routers organized by CARP and I'd like
OpenBGPd (running on those routers) to switch as fast as CARP itself,
so, I've written the following config:


carp4 - uplink ethernet (currently just one uplink)

MASTER, /etc/bgpd.conf:

AS x
router-id 10.0.0.1
network N.N.N.0/24

group Uplink {
remote-as y
neighbor N.N.N.N1 {
descr   Uplink speaker 1
set localpref 300
multihop 255
depend on carp4
announce self
}
neighbor N.N.N.N2 {
descr Uplink speaker 2
set localpref 300
multihop 255
depend on carp4
announce self
}

}


neighbor 10.0.0.2 {
descr   carp fella
remote-as x
announce all
}

BACKUP, /etc/bgpd.conf:

AS x
router-id 10.0.0.2
network N.N.N.0/24

group Uplink {
remote-as y
neighbor N.N.N.N1 {
descr   Uplink speaker 1
set localpref 300
multihop 255
depend on carp4
announce self
}
neighbor N.N.N.N2 {
descr Uplink speaker 2
set localpref 300
multihop 255
depend on carp4
announce self
}

}


neighbor 10.0.0.1 {
descr   carp fella
remote-as x
announce all
}

second router learns routes from carp master (since it has no direct
connection while it is BACKUP), but I only see routes using bgpctl
show rib, not using netstat -rn. also, there's seems to be loop,
because I see many icmp dup  while pinging some system. also, when
BAACKUP becomes MASTER, it drops all the rib and learnes routes from
uplink.which is very bad.


so... does anyone know how to make friends of OpenBGPd and CARP ?



cheers,
Ilya Shipitsin



Re: OT: vmware mind control (WAS: Re: Dell PE850 CERC SATA controller)

2010-03-06 Thread Ted Roby
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:17 PM, Scott McEachern sc...@erratic.ca wrote:

 Ted Roby wrote:


 Hey, I got a 2 GB usb stick for my troubles over a recent fiasco with
 VMWare's release of Fusion 3.
 It seems their PR department is doing a better job than QC.




 Ooo, a trinket from WallyMart that you can buy for pocket change!  Thanks..
 I think.

 Hey, it's better than a(nother) kick in the pants.  BTW: a bootable OpenBSD
 with X, scrotwm, firefox, mplayer, and a bunch of other handy stuff all fits
 in well under a gig on a USB stick.  Make sure to mention that in your
 follow-up Thank-You note for the stick. :)



Hey now! I think you fail to realize this particular trinket has the logo
VMWARE screened on the outside of it.
Oh, and it also blinks a pretty light when in use. I could be a typical Mac
user, and consider this to be the best ever!.


 --

 -RSM

 http://www.erratic.ca



Re: tools for finding a type of bug?

2010-03-06 Thread Henning Brauer
* Mark Bucciarelli mkb...@gmail.com [2010-03-05 18:38]:
 Is there some set of tools you all use to
 help find bad code?

eyes, brain, grep

 Specifically, I'm working with a large code
 base (monetdb), and have found two instances
 where the fopen() return value was not
 checked.
 
 Now I'd like to search the tree and find all
 instances of this bug.

grep!
(or, advanced grep, gid from id-utils)

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Re: any known working configuration of OpenBGPd and CARP ?

2010-03-06 Thread Henning Brauer
of course there are (many) working bgpd + carp setups.

*  ??? chipits...@gmail.com [2010-03-06 15:14]:
 second router learns routes from carp master (since it has no direct
 connection while it is BACKUP), but I only see routes using bgpctl
 show rib, not using netstat -rn. also, there's seems to be loop,
 because I see many icmp dup  while pinging some system. also, when
 BAACKUP becomes MASTER, it drops all the rib and learnes routes from
 uplink.which is very bad.

the preferred setup is to have one bgp session per carp host to your
upstream, i. e. you had two, and use carp on the inner interface.

what you are seeing is kinda expected, the routes are invalid from the
backup host's POV since it does not have a valid route to the nexthop
(this is half guessed since you didn't provide any details)

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Re: any known working configuration of OpenBGPd and CARP ?

2010-03-06 Thread Илья Шипицин
2010/3/6 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de:
 of course there are (many) working bgpd + carp setups.

 *  ??? chipits...@gmail.com [2010-03-06 15:14]:
 second router learns routes from carp master (since it has no direct
 connection while it is BACKUP), but I only see routes using bgpctl
 show rib, not using netstat -rn. also, there's seems to be loop,
 because I see many icmp dup  while pinging some system. also, when
 BAACKUP becomes MASTER, it drops all the rib and learnes routes from
 uplink.which is very bad.

 the preferred setup is to have one bgp session per carp host to your
 upstream, i. e. you had two, and use carp on the inner interface.

is it possible to have carp on both inner and upstream interfaces ?
any example configs for that ?


 what you are seeing is kinda expected, the routes are invalid from the
 backup host's POV since it does not have a valid route to the nexthop
 (this is half guessed since you didn't provide any details)


there are static routes to BGP speakers

# cat /etc/hostname.carp4
vhid 2 pass  carpdev vlan4 advskew 200 x.x.x.x/29
!/sbin/route add N.N.N.N1/32 x.x.x.x
!/sbin/route add N.N.N.N2/32 x.x.x.x

well, carp4 is down while the second router is in BACKUP state (and
thus I see routes in RIB, but not in FIB ?)
I'd expect those routes move to FIB as second router becomes MASTER


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Re: any known working configuration of OpenBGPd and CARP ?

2010-03-06 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:45:24PM +0500,  ??? wrote:
 2010/3/6 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de:
  of course there are (many) working bgpd + carp setups.
 
  *  ??? chipits...@gmail.com [2010-03-06 15:14]:
  second router learns routes from carp master (since it has no direct
  connection while it is BACKUP), but I only see routes using bgpctl
  show rib, not using netstat -rn. also, there's seems to be loop,
  because I see many icmp dup  while pinging some system. also, when
  BAACKUP becomes MASTER, it drops all the rib and learnes routes from
  uplink.which is very bad.
 
  the preferred setup is to have one bgp session per carp host to your
  upstream, i. e. you had two, and use carp on the inner interface.
 
 is it possible to have carp on both inner and upstream interfaces ?
 any example configs for that ?
 
 
  what you are seeing is kinda expected, the routes are invalid from the
  backup host's POV since it does not have a valid route to the nexthop
  (this is half guessed since you didn't provide any details)
 
 
 there are static routes to BGP speakers
 
 # cat /etc/hostname.carp4
 vhid 2 pass  carpdev vlan4 advskew 200 x.x.x.x/29
 !/sbin/route add N.N.N.N1/32 x.x.x.x
 !/sbin/route add N.N.N.N2/32 x.x.x.x
 
 well, carp4 is down while the second router is in BACKUP state (and
 thus I see routes in RIB, but not in FIB ?)
 I'd expect those routes move to FIB as second router becomes MASTER
 

I guess you want to look at set nexthop self so that the routes don't
point over the unavailable carp route but instead over the route the ibgp
session runs on.

-- 
:wq Claudio



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Re: Bad behavior of sensorsd on laptop

2010-03-06 Thread Joachim Schipper
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 02:26:28PM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 I set sensorsd and sensorsd.conf this way :
 
 # $OpenBSD: sensorsd.conf,v 1.8 2007/08/14 19:02:02 cnst Exp $

 # Monitor laptop battery for remaining capacity
 hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3:low=1.40Wh:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

 Command is simple :
 
 #!/bin/sh
 shutdown -h now Shutdown caused by sensor
 
 It's running from point of view that computer is turned off in case of
 low battery or high battery on some of sensor which has command
 assigned. Problem starts if your battery is empy and computer turned
 off. So you plug AC and start laptop. If you are below limit for
 hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3 then your laptop is turned off after
 login again. It's quite understandable, but if you're above limit
 behavior is still same. Is it problem this part from man page for
 sensorsd.conf?
 
  If the limits are crossed or if the status provided by the driver
  changes, sensorsd(8)'s alert functionality is triggered and a command, if
  specified, is executed.
 
 Battery status trough this sensor is changing because battery was
 empty and now laptop is in AC and charging. Does it really mean that
 it will turn off my computer after every change of battery status
 untill my battery is fully recharged?

Yes. Write a better script to fix this. Some ideas: if the CPU gets hot,
switch to low speed (apm -L) instead of turning the machine off; if the
battery is low, check if you're connected to wall power before turning
off; etc.

Joachim



Re: Bad behavior of sensorsd on laptop

2010-03-06 Thread Tomas Bodzar
Thx. I will prepare some more complicated creatures :-)

On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:09 PM, Joachim Schipper
joac...@joachimschipper.nl wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 02:26:28PM +0100, Tomas Bodzar wrote:
 Hi all,

 I set sensorsd and sensorsd.conf this way :

 # $OpenBSD: sensorsd.conf,v 1.8 2007/08/14 19:02:02 cnst Exp $

 # Monitor laptop battery for remaining capacity
 hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3:low=1.40Wh:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

 Command is simple :

 #!/bin/sh
 shutdown -h now Shutdown caused by sensor

 It's running from point of view that computer is turned off in case of
 low battery or high battery on some of sensor which has command
 assigned. Problem starts if your battery is empy and computer turned
 off. So you plug AC and start laptop. If you are below limit for
 hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3 then your laptop is turned off after
 login again. It's quite understandable, but if you're above limit
 behavior is still same. Is it problem this part from man page for
 sensorsd.conf?

 B If the limits are crossed or if the status provided by the driver
 B  B  B changes, sensorsd(8)'s alert functionality is triggered and a
command, if
 B  B  B specified, is executed.

 Battery status trough this sensor is changing because battery was
 empty and now laptop is in AC and charging. Does it really mean that
 it will turn off my computer after every change of battery status
 untill my battery is fully recharged?

 Yes. Write a better script to fix this. Some ideas: if the CPU gets hot,
 switch to low speed (apm -L) instead of turning the machine off; if the
 battery is low, check if you're connected to wall power before turning
 off; etc.

 B  B  B  B  B  B  B  B Joachim



Re: any known working configuration of OpenBGPd and CARP ?

2010-03-06 Thread Илья Шипицин
no, I want routes exactly to carp.

the scenario is the following:

1) two servers decide who is MASTER and who is BACKUP on carp (both
internal and external networks), so, from any point of view they
behave as a single server (which is exactly what carp was developed
for.

2) MASTER  learns routes from network (eBGP)

3) BACKUP learns routes from MASTER (since it has no direct connection
while it is in BACKUP state)

4) as soon as MASTER goes down, BACKUP takes it's role (with already
learnt routing table)

so, there's no point in iBGP routes via MASTER, as we will need routes
when MASTER goes down.


2010/3/6 Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com:
 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:45:24PM +0500,  ??? wrote:
 2010/3/6 Henning Brauer lists-open...@bsws.de:
  of course there are (many) working bgpd + carp setups.
 
  *  ??? chipits...@gmail.com [2010-03-06 15:14]:
  second router learns routes from carp master (since it has no direct
  connection while it is BACKUP), but I only see routes using bgpctl
  show rib, not using netstat -rn. also, there's seems to be loop,
  because I see many icmp dup  while pinging some system. also, when
  BAACKUP becomes MASTER, it drops all the rib and learnes routes from
  uplink.which is very bad.
 
  the preferred setup is to have one bgp session per carp host to your
  upstream, i. e. you had two, and use carp on the inner interface.

 is it possible to have carp on both inner and upstream interfaces ?
 any example configs for that ?

 
  what you are seeing is kinda expected, the routes are invalid from the
  backup host's POV since it does not have a valid route to the nexthop
  (this is half guessed since you didn't provide any details)


 there are static routes to BGP speakers

 # cat /etc/hostname.carp4
 vhid 2 pass  carpdev vlan4 advskew 200 x.x.x.x/29
 !/sbin/route add N.N.N.N1/32 x.x.x.x
 !/sbin/route add N.N.N.N2/32 x.x.x.x

 well, carp4 is down while the second router is in BACKUP state (and
 thus I see routes in RIB, but not in FIB ?)
 I'd expect those routes move to FIB as second router becomes MASTER


 I guess you want to look at set nexthop self so that the routes don't
 point over the unavailable carp route but instead over the route the ibgp
 session runs on.

 --
 :wq Claudio



Re: any known working configuration of OpenBGPd and CARP ?

2010-03-06 Thread Rogier Krieger
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 17:26, PP;QQ P(P8P?P8QP8P= chipits...@gmail.com
wrote:
 no, I want routes exactly to carp.

That sounds odd. Routes are something different than what particular
host responds to frames directed to a specific hardware address.

If I understand the rest of your description correctly, you want only
the master bgpd to have sessions and to somehow distribute its routes
to the backup(s), with the backups starting with that 'state' and
initiate connections to your BGP peers whenever a master goes down. I
doubt that'll work.

In your scenario, if your master goes down, there are no longer any
BGP sessions up with any of your peers. If I'm not mistaken, that will
cause them to withdraw the prefixes you previously advertised from
their tables and no longer forward traffic to you.

When your new master is promoted, it will set up a new session with
your peers. This is probably not the sort of failover you want to see
happening in production.


I suspect that's just one reason why Henning and Claudio made their
suggestions. The N sessions for N CARP members allows for your remote
peers to maintain a path back towards you and for you to have a
working path out. It is very likely the path of least pain and anguish
with smooth failover. Unless of course static routing were an option.
While not sexy, it's simple (fewer moving parts) and still allows you
to use CARP.

Regards,

Rogier



serial bsd.rd on loongson

2010-03-06 Thread Lars Nooden
What is the appropriate way to have bsd.rd (current) use only the serial 
interface for loongson?


The current FAQ 7 does not outline the extra steps needed beyond
changing /etc/ttys

/Lars



Re: serial bsd.rd on loongson

2010-03-06 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:55:39PM +0200, Lars Nooden wrote:

 What is the appropriate way to have bsd.rd (current) use only the
 serial interface for loongson?
 
 The current FAQ 7 does not outline the extra steps needed beyond
 changing /etc/ttys
 
 /Lars

The steps are outlined in INSTALL.loongson. You'll need to set some
pmon variables. There might be a problem in the latest snap, though,
the speed setting in /etc/ttys are wrong. I'll have to check how to
circumvent that, if needed.

-Otto



Re: serial bsd.rd on loongson

2010-03-06 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:09:15PM +0100, Otto Moerbeek wrote:

 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 08:55:39PM +0200, Lars Nooden wrote:
 
  What is the appropriate way to have bsd.rd (current) use only the
  serial interface for loongson?
  
  The current FAQ 7 does not outline the extra steps needed beyond
  changing /etc/ttys
  
  /Lars
 
 The steps are outlined in INSTALL.loongson. You'll need to set some
 pmon variables. There might be a problem in the latest snap, though,
 the speed setting in /etc/ttys are wrong. I'll have to check how to
 circumvent that, if needed.
 
   -Otto

It truns out circumvention is not needed, since bsd.rd does not have /etc/ttys.

To quote the install notes:

On the Fuloong 2F, getting PMON to use the serial console
is tricky, due to PMON bugs and design decisions made by
Lemote.
PMON's default serial speed is 115200, and OpenBSD will
also use that speed. By default, it is possible to use
serial input if no USB keyboard is attached. PMON will
nevertheless display output its on the VGA display.
To get full serial access, the first step is to boot
into PMON with both serial console and VGA display but
no USB keyboard attached.
You can type on the serial console, but output will be shown
on the VGA display. Next enter the following
commands:

PMON set novga 1
PMON set nokbd 1
PMON set al 
PMON set ShowBootMenu no

If you have a dual boot setup, mount the Linux boot partition
and rename /boot/boot.cfg so that it does not get found by
PMON. This will enable full serial access to PMON on
the Fuloong 2F.

This works for me, tested in a slighly different setup, with al set to
the openbsd bootloader in the ext2 filesystem, and no bsd set and then
reading bsd.rd form the root ffs file system:

...
Secondary cache size 512kb

booting: 
The boot.cfg not existed!System will try default entry from al.
AUTO
Loading file: /dev/fs/e...@wd0/boot/boot (elf)
(elf)
0x81e2/42224 + 0x81e2a4f0/4400(z) + 
Entry address is 81e201d0
   zero  at   v0   v1   a0   a1   a2   a3

     0005 aff7fcd0 aff7fce8 800c6980
t0   t1   t2   t3   t4   t5   t6   t7

        
s0   s1   s2   s3   s4   s5   s6   s7

        
t8   t9   k0   k1   gp   sp   s8   ra

      aff7fcb0  80085690
 OpenBSD/loongson BOOT 0.2
boot bsd.rd
bsd.rd
booting wd0a:bsd.rd: 706+483040 [58+181032+109475]=0x778a90
Found Lemote Fuloong, setting up.
Initial setup done, switching console.
[ using 291216 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1995-2010 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org

OpenBSD 4.7-beta (RAMDISK) #0: Mon Mar  1 17:52:41 CET 2010
...



Re: serial bsd.rd on loongson

2010-03-06 Thread patrick keshishian
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 11:25 AM, Otto Moerbeek o...@drijf.net wrote:
 It truns out circumvention is not needed, since bsd.rd does not have
/etc/ttys.

 To quote the install notes:

On the Fuloong 2F, getting PMON to use the serial console
is tricky, due to PMON bugs and design decisions made by
Lemote.
PMON's default serial speed is 115200, and OpenBSD will
also use that speed. By default, it is possible to use
serial input if no USB keyboard is attached. PMON will
nevertheless display output its on the VGA display.
  ^^
should read: its output

--patrick



Re: serial bsd.rd on loongson

2010-03-06 Thread Lars Nooden

On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Otto Moerbeek wrote:

The steps are outlined in INSTALL.loongson. You'll need to set some
pmon variables.


Yes, I have that working the way you do, booting off of wd0a. There are 
the PMON characteristics outlined in INSTALL.loongson.  The serial seems 
needed for catching ddb output for right now.


I am trying to boot off of usb0 to run some I/O tests which would erase 
the internal storage.  The bootloader seems hardcoded for wd0 so I'll 
think of another way to do it.


/Lars





There might be a problem in the latest snap, though,

the speed setting in /etc/ttys are wrong. I'll have to check how to
circumvent that, if needed.

-Otto


It truns out circumvention is not needed, since bsd.rd does not have /etc/ttys.

To quote the install notes:

   On the Fuloong 2F, getting PMON to use the serial console
   is tricky, due to PMON bugs and design decisions made by
   Lemote.
   PMON's default serial speed is 115200, and OpenBSD will
   also use that speed. By default, it is possible to use
   serial input if no USB keyboard is attached. PMON will
   nevertheless display output its on the VGA display.
   To get full serial access, the first step is to boot
   into PMON with both serial console and VGA display but
   no USB keyboard attached.
   You can type on the serial console, but output will be shown
   on the VGA display. Next enter the following
   commands:

   PMON set novga 1
   PMON set nokbd 1
   PMON set al 
   PMON set ShowBootMenu no

   If you have a dual boot setup, mount the Linux boot partition
   and rename /boot/boot.cfg so that it does not get found by
   PMON. This will enable full serial access to PMON on
   the Fuloong 2F.

This works for me, tested in a slighly different setup, with al set to
the openbsd bootloader in the ext2 filesystem, and no bsd set and then
reading bsd.rd form the root ffs file system:

...
Secondary cache size 512kb

booting:
The boot.cfg not existed!System will try default entry from al.
AUTO
Loading file: /dev/fs/e...@wd0/boot/boot (elf)
(elf)
0x81e2/42224 + 0x81e2a4f0/4400(z) +
Entry address is 81e201d0
  zero  at   v0   v1   a0   a1   a2   a3

    0005 aff7fcd0 aff7fce8 800c6980
   t0   t1   t2   t3   t4   t5   t6   t7

       
   s0   s1   s2   s3   s4   s5   s6   s7

       
   t8   t9   k0   k1   gp   sp   s8   ra

     aff7fcb0  80085690

OpenBSD/loongson BOOT 0.2

boot bsd.rd
bsd.rd
booting wd0a:bsd.rd: 706+483040 [58+181032+109475]=0x778a90
Found Lemote Fuloong, setting up.
Initial setup done, switching console.
[ using 291216 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
Copyright (c) 1995-2010 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org

OpenBSD 4.7-beta (RAMDISK) #0: Mon Mar  1 17:52:41 CET 2010
...




Re: serial bsd.rd on loongson

2010-03-06 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On a site note, the kernel will choose serial console on the Fuloong
if the PMON variables novga and nokbd are both set (value does not
matter), imitating what PMON does. To switch back to VGA console unset
either of these variables in PMON and attach a USB keyboard.

BTW, testing this I think I found a bug.

If either of novga or nokbd is set, the OpenBSD bootloader still displays
its prompt on serial, but does not seem to get input from either
serial or USB if a USB keyboard is attached. Only if I disconnect the
USB keyboard, serial input starts to work. This is rather strange, and
requires some more investigation.

-Otto



Re: Bad behavior of sensorsd on laptop

2010-03-06 Thread Constantine A. Murenin
On 6 March 2010 08:26, Tomas Bodzar tomas.bod...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 I set sensorsd and sensorsd.conf this way :

 # $OpenBSD: sensorsd.conf,v 1.8 2007/08/14 19:02:02 cnst Exp $

 #
 # Sample sensorsd.conf file. See sensorsd.conf(5) for details.
 #

 # +5 voltage (volts)
 #hw.sensors.lm0.volt3:low=4.8V:high=5.2V

 # +12 voltage (volts)
 #hw.sensors.lm0.volt4:low=11.5V:high=12.5V

 # Monitor laptop battery for remaining capacity
 hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3:low=1.40Wh:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

 # Chipset temperature (degrees Celsius)
 #hw.sensors.lm0.temp0:high=50C
 hw.sensors.acpitz0.temp0:high=60C:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff
 hw.sensors.acpitz1.temp0:high=60C:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

 # CPU temperature (degrees Celsius)
 #hw.sensors.lm0.temp1:high=60C
 hw.sensors.cpu0.temp0:high=65C:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

 # CPU fan (RPM)
 #hw.sensors.lm0.fan1:low=3000
 hw.sensors.acpithinkpad0.fan0:low=2500:command=/etc/sensorsd/switchoff

 # ignore certain indicators on ipmi(4)
 #hw.sensors.ipmi0.indicator1:istatus

 # Warn if any temperature sensor is over 70 degC.
 # This entry will match only those temperature sensors
 # that don't have their own entry.
 #temp:high=70C


 # By default, sensorsd(8) reports status changes of all sensors that
 # keep their state. Uncomment the following lines if you want to
 # suppress reports about status changes of specific sensor types.

 #temp:istatus
 #fan:istatus
 #volt:istatus
 #acvolt:istatus
 #resistance:istatus
 #power:istatus
 #current:istatus
 #watthour:istatus
 #amphour:istatus
 #indicator:istatus
 #raw:istatus
 #percentage:istatus
 #illuminance:istatus
 #drive:istatus
 #timedelta:istatus

 Command is simple :

 #!/bin/sh
 shutdown -h now Shutdown caused by sensor

 It's running from point of view that computer is turned off in case of
 low battery or high battery on some of sensor which has command
 assigned. Problem starts if your battery is empy and computer turned
 off. So you plug AC and start laptop. If you are below limit for
 hw.sensors.acpibat0.watthour3 then your laptop is turned off after
 login again. It's quite understandable, but if you're above limit
 behavior is still same. Is it problem this part from man page for
 sensorsd.conf?

  If the limits are crossed or if the status provided by the driver
 changes, sensorsd(8)'s alert functionality is triggered and a command,
if
 specified, is executed.

 Battery status trough this sensor is changing because battery was
 empty and now laptop is in AC and charging. Does it really mean that
 it will turn off my computer after every change of battery status
 untill my battery is fully recharged?


core:constant {6432} man sensorsd.conf | fgrep -C5 shutdown
CAVEATS
 Alert functionality is triggered every time there is a change in sensor
 state; for example, when sensorsd(8) is started, the status of each
moni-
 tored sensor changes from undefined to whatever it is.  One must keep
 this in mind when using commands that may unconditionally perform
adverse
 actions (e.g. shutdown(8)), as they will be executed even when all sen-
 sors perform to specification.  If this is undesirable, then a wrapper
 shell script should be used instead.

OpenBSD 4.6 March 15, 2008
2
core:constant {6433}


Try using the %l token in your scripts for conditional shutdown.

C.



OpenBSD 4.6 Intel Mac Mini

2010-03-06 Thread John Hope
Hello,

First - please excuse my lack of knowledge if it is completely obvious.

I have the old Intel Mac Mini currently running Mac OS X Leopard with
Bootcamp. The whole disk is currently dedicated to Leopard and no
other operating systems exist.

I would like to use my Mac Mini as a small home server for various
activities and would like it to run OpenBSD 4.6. However, I have
google'd and searched the archives and not found much information for
me to be confident enough to install OpenBSD 4.6. Obviously it's clear
that OpenBSD does run fine on the Intel Mac Mini but I'm just looking
for some assistance on the procedure. I have purchased a OpenBSD 4.6
CD set and have successfully installed it on my i386 laptop and it's
running smoothly.

So my questions...

Does any clear step by step documentation exist for installing OpenBSD
on a Mac Mini? Is it a similar process as installing Windows (via
Bootcamp) or is there another way to just dedicated the whole machine
to OpenBSD?

Any advice or links would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

John



Re: any known working configuration of OpenBGPd and CARP ?

2010-03-06 Thread Claudio Jeker
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 06:52:24PM +0100, Rogier Krieger wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 17:26, PP;QQ P(P8P?P8QP8P=
chipits...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  no, I want routes exactly to carp.

 That sounds odd. Routes are something different than what particular
 host responds to frames directed to a specific hardware address.

 If I understand the rest of your description correctly, you want only
 the master bgpd to have sessions and to somehow distribute its routes
 to the backup(s), with the backups starting with that 'state' and
 initiate connections to your BGP peers whenever a master goes down. I
 doubt that'll work.

 In your scenario, if your master goes down, there are no longer any
 BGP sessions up with any of your peers. If I'm not mistaken, that will
 cause them to withdraw the prefixes you previously advertised from
 their tables and no longer forward traffic to you.


Right, as soon as the master dies the routes will be withdrawn (there may
be some overlap since it is possible that carp switches before bgpd
realizes the loss). At the moment it is not possible to have a real backup
router running. I have some ideas and partial diffs that will allow backup
CARP nodes to preload tables. Main problem is that we need graceful
restart for this but most peers (as in cizzzcoee) are not able to assist
graceful restart.

Btw. I'm looking for a device that is capable of doing graceful restarts
(as for example some foundry) to test my diff against. Would be great if I
could get access to a lab router to play with.

 When your new master is promoted, it will set up a new session with
 your peers. This is probably not the sort of failover you want to see
 happening in production.


That's why you have multiple bgpd routers with redundant pathes.

--
:wq Claudio



Re: Make don't know how to make

2010-03-06 Thread Alexander Carver

Philip Guenther wrote:

On Friday, March 5, 2010, Alex Carver  wrote:
...

Assembler messages:
Warning: end of file not at end of a line; newline inserted
cpp0: output pipe has been closed
cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11
[standard input]:2197: Error: Illegal operands

The error isn't always the same file on two consecutive tries but they do seem 
to repeat themselves (in other words, init_sysent.c has shown up as an error 
more than once but not consecutively, same for pf.c)


Intermittent and inconsistent signal 11's from the compiler: that's
classically the sign of bad memory in the box.  Try removing or
replacing the memory.


I'll try that again although I did it once before with no luck.  But 
it's worth another shot.




Re: loongson was -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Theo de Raadt
Eric Furman is a racist bigot.



Re: -current or -stable [was: Not another Browser Question]

2010-03-06 Thread Theo de Raadt
 On Fri, Mar 05, 2010 at 01:12:17PM -0500, nixlists wrote:
  The other problem, that gets mentioned is some people are forced to
  run -current because some packages will only work with -current, and
  backporting sucks for many reasons.
 
 Forgot to nitpick this one.
 
 *nobody* is *forced* to run -current.

no kidding.

if anyone ever feels forced to run -current, or any other version of
openbsd, please please please, go run windows or linux instead, just
to spite us.



Re: OpenBSD 4.6 Intel Mac Mini

2010-03-06 Thread Devin Ceartas
I run openBSD 4.6 on intel mac minis as production web and email  
servers. Works great. Nothing special about the install unless you  
want to keep a mac partion. Put in the i386 disk, reboot. May have  
hold down c, I forget. I think there are two partion options and I  
fond I works best without the HFS.


Devin Ceartas
Owner, NacreData L.L.C.

On Mar 6, 2010, at 5:36 PM, John Hope hopejoh...@googlemail.com wrote:


Hello,

First - please excuse my lack of knowledge if it is completely  
obvious.


I have the old Intel Mac Mini currently running Mac OS X Leopard with
Bootcamp. The whole disk is currently dedicated to Leopard and no
other operating systems exist.

I would like to use my Mac Mini as a small home server for various
activities and would like it to run OpenBSD 4.6. However, I have
google'd and searched the archives and not found much information for
me to be confident enough to install OpenBSD 4.6. Obviously it's clear
that OpenBSD does run fine on the Intel Mac Mini but I'm just looking
for some assistance on the procedure. I have purchased a OpenBSD 4.6
CD set and have successfully installed it on my i386 laptop and it's
running smoothly.

So my questions...

Does any clear step by step documentation exist for installing OpenBSD
on a Mac Mini? Is it a similar process as installing Windows (via
Bootcamp) or is there another way to just dedicated the whole machine
to OpenBSD?

Any advice or links would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

John




One Bug Report Or Two?

2010-03-06 Thread J.C. Roberts
My new toy has been sitting here untouched almost a year and I've
finally gotten to playing with it. It's a tiny Fujitsu Lifebook U820
tablet/netbook that was given to me.

I've found two problems, but they're at least somewhat related, so I'm
not sure if it's best to file one bug report, or two.

I got the Feb 28 snap installed, and all is working well with the
exception of the ethernet chipset driver, rl(4), keeps repeatedly 
giving errors:

rl0: watchdog timeout

And at annoying pace. While ignoring the watchdog timeout errors, I've
collected required dmesg, acpidump, and pcidump (-xx and -vvv) for the
bug report.

Just to get things rolling, I figured I'd just quickly disable rl(4) in
the kernel:

boot boot -c
UKC disable rl
UKC quit

Upon reboot, I get dropped into ddb with a uvm_fault. I've manually
collected the required ps, registers and trace. I still need to figure
out how to connect this thing to a serial console.

Yep, seems triggered by ACPI AML crap. --How the hell you guys ever got
ACPI/AML at all working seems like a miracle. Song45 comes to mind.

Anyhow, should this/these be reported as one bug, or two?

Just for notes, to plug in the wired network connection (RF45) requires
either the docking station or a dongle, but since I haven't taken them
apart yet, I've got no clue what widgets might be inside them, or if
using them has any effect on the above. (will test before filing).

The great news is, if I disable the network adapter in the system bios,
everything I've tried so far works perfectly, sans the network adapter.
X works out of the box with startx (no xorg.conf), but I still haven't
gotten into trying to enable the whole table/touch screen stuff. I also
haven't gotten to testing the wireless, GPS, cam, finger reader, and
all the other gizmos.

jcr



Re: any known working configuration of OpenBGPd and CARP ?

2010-03-06 Thread Илья Шипицин
2010/3/7 Claudio Jeker cje...@diehard.n-r-g.com:
 On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 06:52:24PM +0100, Rogier Krieger wrote:
 On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 17:26, P P;Q Q  P(P8P?P8Q P8P=
 chipits...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  no, I want routes exactly to carp.

 That sounds odd. Routes are something different than what particular
 host responds to frames directed to a specific hardware address.

 If I understand the rest of your description correctly, you want only
 the master bgpd to have sessions and to somehow distribute its routes
 to the backup(s), with the backups starting with that 'state' and
 initiate connections to your BGP peers whenever a master goes down. I
 doubt that'll work.

 In your scenario, if your master goes down, there are no longer any
 BGP sessions up with any of your peers. If I'm not mistaken, that will
 cause them to withdraw the prefixes you previously advertised from
 their tables and no longer forward traffic to you.


 Right, as soon as the master dies the routes will be withdrawn (there may
 be some overlap since it is possible that carp switches before bgpd
 realizes the loss). At the moment it is not possible to have a real backup
 router running. I have some ideas and partial diffs that will allow backup
 CARP nodes to preload tables. Main problem is that we need graceful
 restart for this but most peers (as in cizzzcoee) are not able to assist
 graceful restart.

 Btw. I'm looking for a device that is capable of doing graceful restarts
 (as for example some foundry) to test my diff against. Would be great if I
 could get access to a lab router to play with.

we have Juniper on other side, I could test the patch.


 When your new master is promoted, it will set up a new session with
 your peers. This is probably not the sort of failover you want to see
 happening in production.


 That's why you have multiple bgpd routers with redundant pathes.

from the network point of view, packets will come from the same MAC an
IP address (because of CARP), so ... if BACKUP will just continue to
maintain a session, established by MASTER,  nobody will even know, 1
sec is nothing in terms of BGP


 --
 :wq Claudio



Re: serial bsd.rd on loongson

2010-03-06 Thread Otto Moerbeek
On Sat, Mar 06, 2010 at 09:57:59PM +0200, Lars Nooden wrote:

 On Sat, 6 Mar 2010, Otto Moerbeek wrote:
 The steps are outlined in INSTALL.loongson. You'll need to set some
 pmon variables.
 
 Yes, I have that working the way you do, booting off of wd0a. There
 are the PMON characteristics outlined in INSTALL.loongson.  The
 serial seems needed for catching ddb output for right now.
 
 I am trying to boot off of usb0 to run some I/O tests which would
 erase the internal storage.  The bootloader seems hardcoded for wd0
 so I'll think of another way to do it.

The reason the bootloader cannot read from a usb attached disk is that
PMON resets the usb buses just before it tranfers control to the
loaded image. This means the booloaders only has access to the
built-in disk.

It remains possible to load a kernel directly from an ext2 filesystem
on an a usb device, without using the bootloader.

-Otto

 
 /Lars
 
 
 
 
 
 There might be a problem in the latest snap, though,
 the speed setting in /etc/ttys are wrong. I'll have to check how to
 circumvent that, if needed.
 
 -Otto
 
 It truns out circumvention is not needed, since bsd.rd does not have 
 /etc/ttys.
 
 To quote the install notes:
 
On the Fuloong 2F, getting PMON to use the serial console
is tricky, due to PMON bugs and design decisions made by
Lemote.
PMON's default serial speed is 115200, and OpenBSD will
also use that speed. By default, it is possible to use
serial input if no USB keyboard is attached. PMON will
nevertheless display output its on the VGA display.
To get full serial access, the first step is to boot
into PMON with both serial console and VGA display but
no USB keyboard attached.
You can type on the serial console, but output will be shown
on the VGA display. Next enter the following
commands:
 
PMON set novga 1
PMON set nokbd 1
PMON set al 
PMON set ShowBootMenu no
 
If you have a dual boot setup, mount the Linux boot partition
and rename /boot/boot.cfg so that it does not get found by
PMON. This will enable full serial access to PMON on
the Fuloong 2F.
 
 This works for me, tested in a slighly different setup, with al set to
 the openbsd bootloader in the ext2 filesystem, and no bsd set and then
 reading bsd.rd form the root ffs file system:
 
 ...
 Secondary cache size 512kb
 
 booting:
 The boot.cfg not existed!System will try default entry from al.
 AUTO
 Loading file: /dev/fs/e...@wd0/boot/boot (elf)
 (elf)
 0x81e2/42224 + 0x81e2a4f0/4400(z) +
 Entry address is 81e201d0
   zero  at   v0   v1   a0   a1   a2   a3
 
     0005 aff7fcd0 aff7fce8 800c6980
t0   t1   t2   t3   t4   t5   t6   t7
 
        
s0   s1   s2   s3   s4   s5   s6   s7
 
        
t8   t9   k0   k1   gp   sp   s8   ra
 
      aff7fcb0  80085690
 OpenBSD/loongson BOOT 0.2
 boot bsd.rd
 bsd.rd
 booting wd0a:bsd.rd: 706+483040 [58+181032+109475]=0x778a90
 Found Lemote Fuloong, setting up.
 Initial setup done, switching console.
 [ using 291216 bytes of bsd ELF symbol table ]
 Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993
  The Regents of the University of California.  All rights reserved.
 Copyright (c) 1995-2010 OpenBSD. All rights reserved.  http://www.OpenBSD.org
 
 OpenBSD 4.7-beta (RAMDISK) #0: Mon Mar  1 17:52:41 CET 2010
 ...



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