[MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
Thats because these darn young whipper snappers don't know how to read. Especially not the great adventure books from the Silver age ;) And I would wager that not many Women read ERB at the time either. Ari From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:39 PM Subject: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
ERB... rather sounds like something one should say, pardon me after So Disney, in their wisdom, thought that the word MARS was a no-no to box office due to a few previous flops with Mars in the title... it's the word, not that they were crap films. And so, they have a film named JOHN CARTER, like lots of people know who John Carter is, what he does and where he goes. I'd like to introduce our American friends to the term BOOFHEAD... that a short OO not a long O. I hate to say it, and I know some might doubt it, but it is clear that too many marketing people in the film industry these days are boofheads. Me, I can't wait to see JOHN CARTER OF MARS. But then, I like a good ERB pardon me. Phil -Original Message- From: Ari Richards [mailto:ariricha...@yahoo.com.au] Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 03:42 AM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' Thats because these darn young whipper snappers don't know how to read. Especially not the great adventure books from the Silver age ;) And I would wager that not many Women read ERB at the time either. Ari From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:39 PM Subject: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a HugeLoss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL WaltDisney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic JohnCarter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weakbox-office performance. As a result, Disney added, itsmovie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and$120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won'treport its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advancefinancial guidance. The studio recorded an operatingprofit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that periodincluded another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which costmore than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, hasbeen a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domesticearnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The moviehas fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. andCanada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for afilm that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet theexpectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios ChairmanRich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veterantransported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came inthird in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significantexpense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, includinga lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and LynnCollins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that waswidely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholdersmeeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about themovie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financialimpact of that film. Partly in response to costlyprojects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have takena tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcomingrelease The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production whenits projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, thecompany emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we lookforward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcomingreleases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendouspotential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com___How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing ListSend a message addressed to: listserv@listserv.american.eduIn the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-LThe author of this message is solely responsible for its
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
I have no idea what kind of promotions they spent $100mil on. On broadcast TV I've hardly seen any trailers and I have seen absolutely nothing else At 09:39 PM 3/19/2012, David Kusumoto wrote: I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last yeareven though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable starsthe film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household namesand a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
but I'm more pissed off that apparently Ben Hur was showing on the big screen last Thursday, but there was no promotion for that either and I would have been first in line for the 2pm show had I known about it At 09:39 PM 3/19/2012, David Kusumoto wrote: I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last yeareven though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable starsthe film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household namesand a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
if your into watching old films on the big screen, Casablanca is playing on Wednesday. Its the 70th anniversary of the film -- complete with a new poster (which I actually have seen in person). Its kind of (but not exactly) like: http://www.fandango.com/tcmpresentscasablanca70thanniversaryevent_152479/moviephotosposters Next week (3/28) it's The Bodyguard -- which I didn't actually realize was on the same level as Casablanca. Evan - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:32:28 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' but I'm more pissed off that apparently Ben Hur was showing on the big screen last Thursday, but there was no promotion for that either and I would have been first in line for the 2pm show had I known about it At 09:39 PM 3/19/2012, David Kusumoto wrote: I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
i know it's sacrilegious to knock TCM, but that poster is truly from the will this do? school of design. what a missed opportunity. neil From: Evan Zweifel evanzwei...@comcast.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2012, 14:29 Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' if your into watching old films on the big screen, Casablanca is playing on Wednesday. Its the 70th anniversary of the film -- complete with a new poster (which I actually have seen in person). Its kind of (but not exactly) like: http://www.fandango.com/tcmpresentscasablanca70thanniversaryevent_152479/moviephotosposters Next week (3/28) it's The Bodyguard -- which I didn't actually realize was on the same level as Casablanca. Evan - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:32:28 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' but I'm more pissed off that apparently Ben Hur was showing on the big screen last Thursday, but there was no promotion for that either and I would have been first in line for the 2pm show had I known about it At 09:39 PM 3/19/2012, David Kusumoto wrote: I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
I don't think you would have enjoyed Ben-Hur. It was a digital not 70mm presentation. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' but I'm more pissed off that apparently Ben Hur was showing on the big screen last Thursday, but there was no promotion for that either and I would have been first in line for the 2pm show had I known about it At 09:39 PM 3/19/2012, David Kusumoto wrote: I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
Who needs John Carter when you have Harry Potter? Kirby On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:42 AM, Ari Richards wrote: Thats because these darn young whipper snappers don't know how to read. Especially not the great adventure books from the Silver age ;) And I would wager that not many Women read ERB at the time either. Ari From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:39 PM Subject: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L
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I'm not sure you are right, Roland. It was presented in 4K digital, for those theaters that have the gear. But there are not so many theaters that can handle how WIDE the film is - and still get a good height to the picture. The resolution on 4K is simply awesome. K. On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Roland Lataille wrote: I don't think you would have enjoyed Ben-Hur. It was a digital not 70mm presentation. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' but I'm more pissed off that apparently Ben Hur was showing on the big screen last Thursday, but there was no promotion for that either and I would have been first in line for the 2pm show had I known about it At 09:39 PM 3/19/2012, David Kusumoto wrote: I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo
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Casablanca is one of my daughter's favorite movies. So I bought her the poster listed below for Xmas. I think it's a better design than the original. JW http://www.google.com/imgres?q=Casablanca+posterhl=ensa=Xrlz=1T4ADFA_enUS408US408biw=1665bih=832tbm=ischprmd=imvnstbnid=Lt4Z64HMRFbzrM:imgrefurl=http://www.movieposter.com/poster/b70-1191/Casablanca.htmldocid=TQxAY-uw5L8DYMimgurl=http://www.movieposter.com/posters/archive/main/2/b70-1191w=500h=746ei=NZ1oT5-fEsX6ggecmI3YAgzoom=1iact=hcvpx=383vpy=142dur=93hovh=274hovw=184tx=100ty=125sig=105843249540862733536page=1tbnh=129tbnw=94start=0ndsp=47ved=1t:429,r:2,s:0 From: Neil Jaworski neiljawor...@yahoo.co.uk To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 10:49 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' i know it's sacrilegious to knock TCM, but that poster is truly from the will this do? school of design. what a missed opportunity. neil From: Evan Zweifel evanzwei...@comcast.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2012, 14:29 Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' if your into watching old films on the big screen, Casablanca is playing on Wednesday. Its the 70th anniversary of the film -- complete with a new poster (which I actually have seen in person). Its kind of (but not exactly) like: http://www.fandango.com/tcmpresentscasablanca70thanniversaryevent_152479/moviephotosposters Next week (3/28) it's The Bodyguard -- which I didn't actually realize was on the same level as Casablanca. Evan - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 08:32:28 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' but I'm more pissed off that apparently Ben Hur was showing on the big screen last Thursday, but there was no promotion for that either and I would have been first in line for the 2pm show had I known about it At 09:39 PM 3/19/2012, David Kusumoto wrote: I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects
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Yes, 4K would look nice. The aspect ration for BEN-HUR 70mm MGM CAMERA 65 is 2.76:1 From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' I'm not sure you are right, Roland. It was presented in 4K digital, for those theaters that have the gear. But there are not so many theaters that can handle how WIDE the film is - and still get a good height to the picture. The resolution on 4K is simply awesome. K. On Mar 20, 2012, at 9:57 AM, Roland Lataille wrote: I don't think you would have enjoyed Ben-Hur. It was a digital not 70mm presentation. From: Richard Halegua Posters + Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 4:32 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' but I'm more pissed off that apparently Ben Hur was showing on the big screen last Thursday, but there was no promotion for that either and I would have been first in line for the 2pm show had I known about it At 09:39 PM 3/19/2012, David Kusumoto wrote: I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
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maybe if they focused on production quality rather than production cost - maybe if the focus was on making good movies rather than loud flashy ones maybe if Walt had lived just a few mor years :-( -Original Message- Partly in response to costly projects such as "John Carter," Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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While John Carter was in production, Disney had already pulled the plug on The Lone Ranger over cost, though even in its revised form it is a very expensive movie. Before John Carter started filming they had already spent significant money buying treatments for 2 sequels; money that might have been spent on marketing. In my opinion, part of the problem is that they aren't just making movies. It about greenlighting the creation of a product. What kind of deal can we make on the action figures, what's the right time frame for releasing the video game, can we create a ride in a theme park, will people come to see the traveling ice show, can we get Lady Gaga to sing a song in the film that has nothing to do with the artistic needs of the movie. So much money is tied up in other money making media possibilities, that the synergistic possibilities and ancillary markets are often focused on to the detriment of the film itself. All that has to be lined up as part of the film approval process and it changes everything. Cars was not Pixar/Disney's biggest or best film, but it sold more toys than any of the others; that's why they had to make Cars 2. - Original Message - From: Bill Brent To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' maybe if they focused on production quality rather than production cost - maybe if the focus was on making good movies rather than loud flashy ones maybe if Walt had lived just a few mor years :-( -Original Message- Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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Walt was a heavy smoker. Died of cancer 12/15/66, he was 65. I just watched a great documentary on him last night on CNBC. His brother Roy was going to retire at that time too. But the family convinced him to oversee the construction of Walt Disney World which opened in October 1971. He did retire after the opening, but died two months later from a seizer on December 20, 1971. From: Bill Brent bbr...@pipeline.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' maybe if they focused on production quality rather than production cost - maybe if the focus was on making good movies rather than loud flashy ones maybe if Walt had lived just a few mor years :-( -Original Message- Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I know John Carter, but who's Harry Potter? Helmut Am 20.03.2012 um 16:09 schrieb Kirby McDaniel: Who needs John Carter when you have Harry Potter? Kirby On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:42 AM, Ari Richards wrote: Thats because these darn young whipper snappers don't know how to read. Especially not the great adventure books from the Silver age ;) And I would wager that not many Women read ERB at the time either. Ari From: David Kusumoto davidmkusum...@hotmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:39 PM Subject: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' I wonder how much the negative buzz that preceded the film - turned out to be a self-fulfilling prophecy for some. It seems the industry loves a loser as much as it loves a winner. But there's no doubt that the women I know - had near zero interest to see this picture. In the industry trades, I kept reading about how the film ended up skewing toward older men, as in WAY older men, not just simply the over 25s. -d. TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2011 Disney's $200 Million Charge 'John Carter' Proves a Huge Loss for Disney, Spurs New Focus on Cutting Costs By ERICA ORDEN FOR THE WALL STREET JOURNAL Walt Disney Co. expects to lose $200 million on its science-fiction epic John Carter, the company said on Monday, citing the costly movie's weak box-office performance. As a result, Disney added, its movie studio is expected to report an operating loss of between $80 million and $120 million for its fiscal second quarter, ending March 31. Disney won't report its earnings for the quarter until May, and rarely offers such advance financial guidance. The studio recorded an operating profit of $77 million during the same quarter last year—even though that period included another big-budget flop, Mars Needs Moms. John Carter, which cost more than $250 million to make and an additional $100 million to market, has been a box-office bomb, particularly in the U.S., where its cumulative domestic earnings total $53.2 million during its first 10 days in theaters. The movie has fared somewhat better abroad, grossing $130.8 million outside the U.S. and Canada since its March 9 opening. But those results are disappointing for a film that was one of the studio's most expensive in years. It certainly didn't meet the expectations of what I wanted or what I needed, Disney Studios Chairman Rich Ross said in an interview last week. The film, about a Civil War veteran transported to a planet populated by alien creatures called Tharks, came in third in the weekend's box-office ticket sales results, behind rivals 21 Jump Street and Dr. Seuss' The Lorax. In addition to its significant expense, John Carter suffered from an array of handicaps, including a lack of recognizable stars—the film featured actors Taylor Kitsch and Lynn Collins, neither of whom are household names—and a marketing campaign that was widely considered indecipherable and visually unappealing. During Disney's recent shareholders meeting, Chief Financial Officer Jay Rasulo brushed aside an inquiry about the movie's results, saying that it's very early to talk about the financial impact of that film. Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, most notably for upcoming release The Lone Ranger, on which the studio halted production when its projected costs had surpassed $260 million. In a statement on Monday, the company emphasized the prospects of its upcoming films. As we look forward to the second half of the year, we are excited about the upcoming releases of 'The Avengers' and 'Brave,' which we believe have tremendous potential to drive value for the Studio and the rest of the company. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF
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Pulled the Lone Ranger over cost? How much can two horses and a mask cost? From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip W. Ayling Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:06 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' While John Carter was in production, Disney had already pulled the plug on The Lone Ranger over cost, though even in its revised form it is a very expensive movie. Before John Carter started filming they had already spent significant money buying treatments for 2 sequels; money that might have been spent on marketing. In my opinion, part of the problem is that they aren't just making movies. It about greenlighting the creation of a product. What kind of deal can we make on the action figures, what's the right time frame for releasing the video game, can we create a ride in a theme park, will people come to see the traveling ice show, can we get Lady Gaga to sing a song in the film that has nothing to do with the artistic needs of the movie. So much money is tied up in other money making media possibilities, that the synergistic possibilities and ancillary markets are often focused on to the detriment of the film itself. All that has to be lined up as part of the film approval process and it changes everything. Cars was not Pixar/Disney's biggest or best film, but it sold more toys than any of the others; that's why they had to make Cars 2. - Original Message - From: Bill Brentmailto:bbr...@pipeline.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' maybe if they focused on production quality rather than production cost - maybe if the focus was on making good movies rather than loud flashy ones maybe if Walt had lived just a few mor years :-( -Original Message- Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edumailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edumailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
haha Funniest riposte I've read so far today. Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:34:04 + From: jeffrey.wal...@fisglobal.com Subject: Re: OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Pulled the Lone Ranger over cost? How much can two horses and a mask cost? From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip W. Ayling Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:06 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' While John Carter was in production, Disney had already pulled the plug on The Lone Ranger over cost, though even in its revised form it is a very expensive movie. Before John Carter started filming they had already spent significant money buying treatments for 2 sequels; money that might have been spent on marketing. In my opinion, part of the problem is that they aren't just making movies. It about greenlighting the creation of a product. What kind of deal can we make on the action figures, what's the right time frame for releasing the video game, can we create a ride in a theme park, will people come to see the traveling ice show, can we get Lady Gaga to sing a song in the film that has nothing to do with the artistic needs of the movie. So much money is tied up in other money making media possibilities, that the synergistic possibilities and ancillary markets are often focused on to the detriment of the film itself. All that has to be lined up as part of the film approval process and it changes everything. Cars was not Pixar/Disney's biggest or best film, but it sold more toys than any of the others; that's why they had to make Cars 2. - Original Message - From: Bill Brent To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' maybe if they focused on production quality rather than production cost - maybe if the focus was on making good movies rather than loud flashy ones maybe if Walt had lived just a few mor years :-( -Original Message- Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
Apparently over $260mm! Let’s just say that Tonto makes some big wampum! From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Walton, Jeffrey Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 2:34 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' Pulled the Lone Ranger over cost? How much can two horses and a mask cost? From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip W. Ayling Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:06 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' While John Carter was in production, Disney had already pulled the plug on The Lone Ranger over cost, though even in its revised form it is a very expensive movie. Before John Carter started filming they had already spent significant money buying treatments for 2 sequels; money that might have been spent on marketing. In my opinion, part of the problem is that they aren't just making movies. It about greenlighting the creation of a product. What kind of deal can we make on the action figures, what's the right time frame for releasing the video game, can we create a ride in a theme park, will people come to see the traveling ice show, can we get Lady Gaga to sing a song in the film that has nothing to do with the artistic needs of the movie. So much money is tied up in other money making media possibilities, that the synergistic possibilities and ancillary markets are often focused on to the detriment of the film itself. All that has to be lined up as part of the film approval process and it changes everything. Cars was not Pixar/Disney's biggest or best film, but it sold more toys than any of the others; that's why they had to make Cars 2. - Original Message - From: Bill Brentmailto:bbr...@pipeline.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDUmailto:MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' maybe if they focused on production quality rather than production cost - maybe if the focus was on making good movies rather than loud flashy ones maybe if Walt had lived just a few mor years :-( -Original Message- Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edumailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.comhttp://www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edumailto:lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you.
Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.'
Over one million dollars per day - Original Message - From: Walton, Jeffrey To: Phillip W. Ayling ; MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:34 PM Subject: RE: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' Pulled the Lone Ranger over cost? How much can two horses and a mask cost? From: MoPo List [mailto:mopo-l@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU] On Behalf Of Phillip W. Ayling Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 12:06 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' While John Carter was in production, Disney had already pulled the plug on The Lone Ranger over cost, though even in its revised form it is a very expensive movie. Before John Carter started filming they had already spent significant money buying treatments for 2 sequels; money that might have been spent on marketing. In my opinion, part of the problem is that they aren't just making movies. It about greenlighting the creation of a product. What kind of deal can we make on the action figures, what's the right time frame for releasing the video game, can we create a ride in a theme park, will people come to see the traveling ice show, can we get Lady Gaga to sing a song in the film that has nothing to do with the artistic needs of the movie. So much money is tied up in other money making media possibilities, that the synergistic possibilities and ancillary markets are often focused on to the detriment of the film itself. All that has to be lined up as part of the film approval process and it changes everything. Cars was not Pixar/Disney's biggest or best film, but it sold more toys than any of the others; that's why they had to make Cars 2. - Original Message - From: Bill Brent To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 8:34 AM Subject: Re: [MOPO] OT: Disney expects $120 million operating loss due to 'John Carter.' maybe if they focused on production quality rather than production cost - maybe if the focus was on making good movies rather than loud flashy ones maybe if Walt had lived just a few mor years :-( -Original Message- Partly in response to costly projects such as John Carter, Disney executives say they have taken a tougher look at production budgets for its films, Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. _ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient, please: (i) delete the message and all copies; (ii) do not disclose, distribute or use the message in any manner; and (iii) notify the sender immediately. In addition, please be aware that any message addressed to our domain is subject to archiving and review by persons other than the intended recipient. Thank you. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
