Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
This idea that unemployment is a lagging indicator is the biggest (and longest-running) prevarication of all the myriad lies being pushed by the government with the cheer-leading assistance of the news media. Since consumers drive sales (at any level you care to name), if there are more and more consumers out of work and, more important, unable to find new work, then sales at all levels go down and stay down. The economy simply cannot recover if real average-consumer sales don't at least start creeping up. Any other hopeful indicators the supposed experts -- you know them, all those geniuses who missed the obvious signs of the impending real estate and banking collapse two years ago -- well, those hopeful signs just so much wishful thinking -- and the masking effect of those few who still have money to burn picking up recession-priced bargains. In other words, a few people/companies going around snapping up foreclosed or near-foreclosure properties/businesses/inventories at 40 cents on the dollar is not really an increase in sales and hardly what any sensible person would call a hopeful sign. At the very least, the widespread layoffs have to stop and then a few companies/projects have to start hiring *before* you can even think about the economy *really* starting to recover. We may begin to see some of that by the end of this year as the $500 billion unfunded dollars they have been printing up and dumping into infrastructure projects all across the nation really starts cranking up this summer once the snows melt. But that's why we're now seeing all this propaganda (and the $15 billion jobs package they are trying to pass). If you can convince employers that the economy is recovering you can get them to step 1): stop firing any more people and maybe even step 2): get them to hire a couple of people at much reduced wages than they would have had to pay those people 4 years ago. No real point in us debating this here, however, since it is being debated/discussed/screamed about just about everywhere else but here. -- JR wise1...@aol.com wrote: Bruce...I totally agree. I see people unemployed, losing their homes, going bankrupt, etc. But then again..employment is a lagging indicator. The businesses that caused and felt the pain are the first to heal. Then the common folk. I dunno either. On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
All this is very tiresome. I can hear all this on CNN, FoxNews (no!) and MSNBC. Let's get back to film posters before I chime in with my two cents worth and bore you all fucking to death. Kirby On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:47 PM, James Richard wrote: This idea that unemployment is a lagging indicator is the biggest (and longest-running) prevarication of all the myriad lies being pushed by the government with the cheer-leading assistance of the news media. Since consumers drive sales (at any level you care to name), if there are more and more consumers out of work and, more important, unable to find new work, then sales at all levels go down and stay down. The economy simply cannot recover if real average-consumer sales don't at least start creeping up. Any other hopeful indicators the supposed experts -- you know them, all those geniuses who missed the obvious signs of the impending real estate and banking collapse two years ago -- well, those hopeful signs just so much wishful thinking -- and the masking effect of those few who still have money to burn picking up recession-priced bargains. In other words, a few people/companies going around snapping up foreclosed or near-foreclosure properties/businesses/inventories at 40 cents on the dollar is not really an increase in sales and hardly what any sensible person would call a hopeful sign. At the very least, the widespread layoffs have to stop and then a few companies/projects have to start hiring *before* you can even think about the economy *really* starting to recover. We may begin to see some of that by the end of this year as the $500 billion unfunded dollars they have been printing up and dumping into infrastructure projects all across the nation really starts cranking up this summer once the snows melt. But that's why we're now seeing all this propaganda (and the $15 billion jobs package they are trying to pass). If you can convince employers that the economy is recovering you can get them to step 1): stop firing any more people and maybe even step 2): get them to hire a couple of people at much reduced wages than they would have had to pay those people 4 years ago. No real point in us debating this here, however, since it is being debated/discussed/screamed about just about everywhere else but here. -- JR wise1...@aol.com wrote: Bruce...I totally agree. I see people unemployed, losing their homes, going bankrupt, etc. But then again..employment is a lagging indicator. The businesses that caused and felt the pain are the first to heal. Then the common folk. I dunno either. On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
I agree with you, kirby. It was tiresome from the get go, especially in a forum like this. the political discussions should be kept out. On Mar 7, 2010, at 3:07 PM, Kirby McDaniel wrote: All this is very tiresome. I can hear all this on CNN, FoxNews (no!) and MSNBC. Let's get back to film posters before I chime in with my two cents worth and bore you all fucking to death. Kirby On Mar 7, 2010, at 2:47 PM, James Richard wrote: This idea that unemployment is a lagging indicator is the biggest (and longest-running) prevarication of all the myriad lies being pushed by the government with the cheer-leading assistance of the news media. Since consumers drive sales (at any level you care to name), if there are more and more consumers out of work and, more important, unable to find new work, then sales at all levels go down and stay down. The economy simply cannot recover if real average-consumer sales don't at least start creeping up. Any other hopeful indicators the supposed experts -- you know them, all those geniuses who missed the obvious signs of the impending real estate and banking collapse two years ago -- well, those hopeful signs just so much wishful thinking -- and the masking effect of those few who still have money to burn picking up recession-priced bargains. In other words, a few people/companies going around snapping up foreclosed or near-foreclosure properties/businesses/inventories at 40 cents on the dollar is not really an increase in sales and hardly what any sensible person would call a hopeful sign. At the very least, the widespread layoffs have to stop and then a few companies/projects have to start hiring *before* you can even think about the economy *really* starting to recover. We may begin to see some of that by the end of this year as the $500 billion unfunded dollars they have been printing up and dumping into infrastructure projects all across the nation really starts cranking up this summer once the snows melt. But that's why we're now seeing all this propaganda (and the $15 billion jobs package they are trying to pass). If you can convince employers that the economy is recovering you can get them to step 1): stop firing any more people and maybe even step 2): get them to hire a couple of people at much reduced wages than they would have had to pay those people 4 years ago. No real point in us debating this here, however, since it is being debated/discussed/screamed about just about everywhere else but here. -- JR wise1...@aol.com wrote: Bruce...I totally agree. I see people unemployed, losing their homes, going bankrupt, etc. But then again..employment is a lagging indicator. The businesses that caused and felt the pain are the first to heal. Then the common folk. I dunno either. On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
For the past two years when we were being told that the economy was in the tank (2008 and 2009) we had our best two years since we've been in business. First quarter of this year we've had a slight downturn which may be attributable to the weather rather than the economy. jim Check out our shop video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-n2AznLA8o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCP7PaO-2tk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCP7PaO-2tkfeature=related feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fojAZcbvL7E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fojAZcbvL7Efeature=related feature=related jim episale Unshredded Nostalgia 323 South main St. Route 9 Barnegat, N.J. 08005 800-872-9990 609-660-2626 http://www.unshreddednostalgia.com Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of Cory Glaberson Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:31 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us? What's interesting about this question is the disconnect between what people see around them and what is happening in the economy. Our economy is too large and diverse for any one person's experience to really encompass it. How do we know what is happening in Silcon Valley, or the Texas oil fields. We can't - but we trust what we experience ourselves even though we know its not a complete sample. WE just can't help thinking our small slice of the world is the whole world. Its not an intellectually sound argument - but it is an emotionally powerful one. The really interesting question is why is distrust of our basic institutions is so high right now? We all should have a healthy skepticism of the what our institutions are telling us- but in some quarters its reached an extremely high level. This is NOT healthy. It causes people to do irrational things like buy gold and stock up on guns and can goods. I don't understand this thinking at all. -Original Message- From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 6:25 pm Subject: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us? This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
Certain Trades/Business's are starting to come out of the recession the building/constuction industry being one of them. Most Trades/Business's follow after the building/constuction and is a good indication that things are getting better, I do believe things are getting better but it might take a few years to get it back to where it was 3 years ago. Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 18:25:19 -0600 From: brucehershen...@gmail.com Subject: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us? To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
recovery is clearly underway, however the game is changed, and the generations are going to be suffering in different ways the baby boomers who thought they were setting up their retirements by buying anything they could possibly spend their money on until finally making that incredibly stupid bet of buying real estate when the quickly rising prices made them think it was becoming a better deal (ignorance on display) are now going to be one of the brokest generations in recent history and will be drag on the economy for 2-3 decades the younger generations who will be paying down the debt that was fueled by the lower my taxes and increase my benefits mindset of the last twenty years will suffer tremendously will probably never experience the economic growth many of us born in the 40s-50s have resulting in a lowered quality of life for them a third factor is that the jobs that were lost are never coming back and what jobs do come back will be lower wage jobs adding to the burdens of these generations economic growth as we experienced from 1945-2000 is a thing of the past At 04:25 PM 3/5/2010, Bruce Hershenson wrote: This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
Bruce...I totally agree. I see people unemployed, losing their homes, going bankrupt, etc. But then again..employment is a lagging indicator. The businesses that caused and felt the pain are the first to heal. Then the common folk. I dunno either. On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
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I don't think the government is lying. Things are slowly improving. I guess it depends a lot on what state you live in. I notice that restaurants in New York are becoming crowded again. In January 2009, they were empty. Tourists have begun coming back to the city in droves and the legit theaters are selling out again. There also seems to be a lot more part-time and contract employment opportunities and several friends have reported being hired recently. FRANC -Original Message- From: MoPo List [mailto:mop...@listserv.american.edu] On Behalf Of wise1...@aol.com Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 7:50 PM To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us? Bruce...I totally agree. I see people unemployed, losing their homes, going bankrupt, etc. But then again..employment is a lagging indicator. The businesses that caused and felt the pain are the first to heal. Then the common folk. I dunno either. On Mar 5, 2010, at 4:25 PM, Bruce Hershenson wrote: This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
I think as a nation we're lying to ourselves. We kept running up debt and buying items that we didn't need and houses we couldn't afford. We also bought Hummers as if the oil was going to get cheaper and more would just materialize. Our economy is changing in big ways because we as a society didn't want to face the truth about its limits. Toochis From: Richard Halegua Comic Art sa...@comic-art.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, March 5, 2010 4:36:11 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us? recovery is clearly underway, however the game is changed, and the generations are going to be suffering in different ways the baby boomers who thought they were setting up their retirements by buying anything they could possibly spend their money on until finally making that incredibly stupid bet of buying real estate when the quickly rising prices made them think it was becoming a better deal (ignorance on display) are now going to be one of the brokest generations in recent history and will be drag on the economy for 2-3 decades the younger generations who will be paying down the debt that was fueled by the lower my taxes and increase my benefits mindset of the last twenty years will suffer tremendously will probably never experience the economic growth many of us born in the 40s-50s have resulting in a lowered quality of life for them a third factor is that the jobs that were lost are never coming back and what jobs do come back will be lower wage jobs adding to the burdens of these generations economic growth as we experienced from 1945-2000 is a thing of the past At 04:25 PM 3/5/2010, Bruce Hershenson wrote: This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us?
What's interesting about this question is the disconnect between what people see around them and what is happening in the economy. Our economy is too large and diverse for any one person's experience to really encompass it. How do we know what is happening in Silcon Valley, or the Texas oil fields. We can't - but we trust what we experience ourselves even though we know its not a complete sample. WE just can't help thinking our small slice of the world is the whole world. Its not an intellectually sound argument - but it is an emotionally powerful one. The really interesting question is why is distrust of our basic institutions is so high right now? We all should have a healthy skepticism of the what our institutions are telling us- but in some quarters its reached an extremely high level. This is NOT healthy. It causes people to do irrational things like buy gold and stock up on guns and can goods. I don't understand this thinking at all. -Original Message- From: Bruce Hershenson brucehershen...@gmail.com To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 6:25 pm Subject: [MOPO] Completely off topic: any of you think the government may be lying to us? This has nothing to do with movie posters, but I was wondering if any of you are wondering (as I am) if the government may be lying to us. I mean, in totalitarian countries, the governments used to endlessly broadcast good news, and record harvests, and increased production, in the hopes that people would swallow it. Lately, the government has been telling us that economic conditions are getting better, and that the recovery is under way, and I am thinking, Who I am to believe, the government, or my own lying eyes?. What say you? Bruce Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
