Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases
Evan, I didn't say that that these posters were worth more than the original year of issue posters. I said that there were some titles that had re-release posters that had enjoyed some appreciation. Certainly those two titles are examples of what I meant. There are a few titles where the reissue is a better poster than the original, in my opinion. The 1934 STATE FAIR comes to mind. The early Fox reissue is better than the original I think. There may be a poster where the reissue is worth more money than the original, but no examples come to mind immediately. What is true, I think, is that it is not unusual for a reissue poster to actually be scarcer than the original. I would cite NORTH BY NORTHWEST as an example of that. If you combine this fact with an appealing element of design - like the image of Hitch on Mount Rushmore - one can easily see why demand for a poster may be growing. A growing demand with a scarcer supply. Appreciation. Kirby On Aug 28, 2011, at 9:18 PM, Evan Zweifel wrote: There's really very few posters where a re-issue poster is worth more than the original. You mentioned two. I would add the re-issue 1-sheets for The Killers and The Pride of the Yankees. Are there others?? However, sometimes I wonder what would happen to the market for these re-issues, if the studio re-released the film now with a killer 1-sheet. Evan - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:50:24 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases Rich, I'll take all those original GONE WITH THE WIND and WIZARD OF OZ posters that you haven't sold. Addressing Phillips question, I think that reissue posters, if they are good designs - for example, the NORTH BY NORTHWEST reissue - THE HUSTLER reissue - have enjoyed some appreciation. Other reissues, which seemed to have been indifferently designed, like the 1962 MGM reissues (those films were reissued to get some cash flow for MGM which was hemorrhaging funds to Brando's BOUNTY) still have the reissue stigma that the old-hand collectors assigned to them. Here's a kicker: some video release posters are quite good and can generate some interest from time to time. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: the Universal horror monsters are eternal horror characters and there are always loads of fans for them Dorothy and Rhett don't have many fans anymore At 03:51 PM 8/28/2011, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: I realize that the value of posters is set generally by the consumer marketplace in large measure, and can be affected as well by speculation and trends. It is my opinion, and I don't know how to verify it, that super high end items like King Kong, Frankenstein, and Dracula, not only bring very high prices for original release material, but generate high prices across the whole range of different sizes for most of their re-release posters. Even somewhat lesser titles like Ghost of Frankenstein or AC meet Frankenstein sell well on re-release. On the other hand, and putting aside films where maybe there is one very iconic size and image (say the one sheet for Gilda), it seems to me that re-release material from films where any original paper commands high prices, like Robin Hood, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, Flash Gordon or It Happened One Night, seem to drop off much more dramatically from the prices that original release material brings. Anyone have an opinion to share? Thanks Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases
I think that the Universal Horror re-releases sell for about the same percentage that many other re-release posters bring. it's just their starting points for originals is so high that it makes it look like the re-releases bring an unusual percentage. Take the recent sale of the Werewolf Of London insert at Heritage for nearly $48,000. What does the re-release insert bring? Maybe 5% of that price on it's very best day and probably usually 3-4%. That seems like a pretty reasonable percentage for a re-release. Even what I would consider to be the King of re-release posters, the 1947 Dracula one-sheet (arguably the best poster on the film and possibly as rare as the original release one-sheets) which would bring a price greater than most any other film's original one-sheets could hope to sell for would only bring 12-15% of the price of a first release Dracula. - Original Message - From: Richard Halegua Comic Art To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2011 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases no Kirby he's referring to the fact that a 1931 Frankenstein poster is $250k, and that the 1938 re-issue is still a 10's of 1000$ poster that only a few can afford and why is this not true for those other titles. re-issues on those other titles are priced at a small % of original issues (Oz 1949 release cards being an exception) Frankenstein fans are only increasing, Rhett Butler fans peaked more than 30 years ago At 04:50 PM 8/28/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: Rich, I'll take all those original GONE WITH THE WIND and WIZARD OF OZ posters that you haven't sold. Addressing Phillips question, I think that reissue posters, if they are good designs - for example, the NORTH BY NORTHWEST reissue - THE HUSTLER reissue - have enjoyed some appreciation. Other reissues, which seemed to have been indifferently designed, like the 1962 MGM reissues (those films were reissued to get some cash flow for MGM which was hemorrhaging funds to Brando's BOUNTY) still have the reissue stigma that the old-hand collectors assigned to them. Here's a kicker: some video release posters are quite good and can generate some interest from time to time. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: the Universal horror monsters are eternal horror characters and there are always loads of fans for them Dorothy and Rhett don't have many fans anymore At 03:51 PM 8/28/2011, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: I realize that the value of posters is set generally by the consumer marketplace in large measure, and can be affected as well by speculation and trends. It is my opinion, and I don't know how to verify it, that super high end items like King Kong, Frankenstein, and Dracula, not only bring very high prices for original release material, but generate high prices across the whole range of different sizes for most of their re-release posters. Even somewhat lesser titles like Ghost of Frankenstein or AC meet Frankenstein sell well on re-release. On the other hand, and putting aside films where maybe there is one very iconic size and image (say the one sheet for Gilda), it seems to me that re-release material from films where any original paper commands high prices, like Robin Hood, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, Flash Gordon or It Happened One Night, seem to drop off much more dramatically from the prices that original release material brings. Anyone have an opinion to share? Thanks Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com
Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases
the Universal horror monsters are eternal horror characters and there are always loads of fans for them Dorothy and Rhett don't have many fans anymore At 03:51 PM 8/28/2011, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: I realize that the value of posters is set generally by the consumer marketplace in large measure, and can be affected as well by speculation and trends. It is my opinion, and I don't know how to verify it, that super high end items like King Kong, Frankenstein, and Dracula, not only bring very high prices for original release material, but generate high prices across the whole range of different sizes for most of their re-release posters. Even somewhat lesser titles like Ghost of Frankenstein or AC meet Frankenstein sell well on re-release. On the other hand, and putting aside films where maybe there is one very iconic size and image (say the one sheet for Gilda), it seems to me that re-release material from films where any original paper commands high prices, like Robin Hood, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, Flash Gordon or It Happened One Night, seem to drop off much more dramatically from the prices that original release material brings. Anyone have an opinion to share? Thanks Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases
Rich, I'll take all those original GONE WITH THE WIND and WIZARD OF OZ posters that you haven't sold. Addressing Phillips question, I think that reissue posters, if they are good designs - for example, the NORTH BY NORTHWEST reissue - THE HUSTLER reissue - have enjoyed some appreciation. Other reissues, which seemed to have been indifferently designed, like the 1962 MGM reissues (those films were reissued to get some cash flow for MGM which was hemorrhaging funds to Brando's BOUNTY) still have the reissue stigma that the old-hand collectors assigned to them. Here's a kicker: some video release posters are quite good and can generate some interest from time to time. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: the Universal horror monsters are eternal horror characters and there are always loads of fans for them Dorothy and Rhett don't have many fans anymore At 03:51 PM 8/28/2011, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: I realize that the value of posters is set generally by the consumer marketplace in large measure, and can be affected as well by speculation and trends. It is my opinion, and I don't know how to verify it, that super high end items like King Kong, Frankenstein, and Dracula, not only bring very high prices for original release material, but generate high prices across the whole range of different sizes for most of their re-release posters. Even somewhat lesser titles like Ghost of Frankenstein or AC meet Frankenstein sell well on re-release. On the other hand, and putting aside films where maybe there is one very iconic size and image (say the one sheet for Gilda), it seems to me that re-release material from films where any original paper commands high prices, like Robin Hood, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, Flash Gordon or It Happened One Night, seem to drop off much more dramatically from the prices that original release material brings. Anyone have an opinion to share? Thanks Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases
no Kirby he's referring to the fact that a 1931 Frankenstein poster is $250k, and that the 1938 re-issue is still a 10's of 1000$ poster that only a few can afford and why is this not true for those other titles. re-issues on those other titles are priced at a small % of original issues (Oz 1949 release cards being an exception) Frankenstein fans are only increasing, Rhett Butler fans peaked more than 30 years ago At 04:50 PM 8/28/2011, Kirby McDaniel wrote: Rich, I'll take all those original GONE WITH THE WIND and WIZARD OF OZ posters that you haven't sold. Addressing Phillips question, I think that reissue posters, if they are good designs - for example, the NORTH BY NORTHWEST reissue - THE HUSTLER reissue - have enjoyed some appreciation. Other reissues, which seemed to have been indifferently designed, like the 1962 MGM reissues (those films were reissued to get some cash flow for MGM which was hemorrhaging funds to Brando's BOUNTY) still have the reissue stigma that the old-hand collectors assigned to them. Here's a kicker: some video release posters are quite good and can generate some interest from time to time. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 http://www.movieart.netwww.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: the Universal horror monsters are eternal horror characters and there are always loads of fans for them Dorothy and Rhett don't have many fans anymore At 03:51 PM 8/28/2011, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: I realize that the value of posters is set generally by the consumer marketplace in large measure, and can be affected as well by speculation and trends. It is my opinion, and I don't know how to verify it, that super high end items like King Kong, Frankenstein, and Dracula, not only bring very high prices for original release material, but generate high prices across the whole range of different sizes for most of their re-release posters. Even somewhat lesser titles like Ghost of Frankenstein or AC meet Frankenstein sell well on re-release. On the other hand, and putting aside films where maybe there is one very iconic size and image (say the one sheet for Gilda), it seems to me that re-release material from films where any original paper commands high prices, like Robin Hood, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, Flash Gordon or It Happened One Night, seem to drop off much more dramatically from the prices that original release material brings. Anyone have an opinion to share? Thanks Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at http://www.filmfan.comwww.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: mailto:lists...@listserv.american.edulists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases
I have a 69 duotone blue/black Sound of music folded one sheet, I also have a 1980 re Gone with the wind one sheet and also some 1980 re-release GWTW bW stills and also a Chinatown folded one sheet. all in nice shape. all three posters and the stills. $375.00 sent postpaid. paypal or i take cards inhouse. all original theatrical posters. Tom 419-474-3065 Original Message From: ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Subject: Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 18:50:24 -0500 Rich, I'll take all those original GONE WITH THE WIND and WIZARD OF OZ posters that you haven't sold. Addressing Phillips question, I think that reissue posters, if they are good designs - for example, the NORTH BY NORTHWEST reissue - THE HUSTLER reissue - have enjoyed some appreciation. Other reissues, which seemed to have been indifferently designed, like the 1962 MGM reissues (those films were reissued to get some cash flow for MGM which was hemorrhaging funds to Brando's BOUNTY) still have the reissue stigma that the old-hand collectors assigned to them. Here's a kicker: some video release posters are quite good and can generate some interest from time to time. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: the Universal horror monsters are eternal horror characters and there are always loads of fans for them Dorothy and Rhett don't have many fans anymore At 03:51 PM 8/28/2011, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: I realize that the value of posters is set generally by the consumer marketplace in large measure, and can be affected as well by speculation and trends. It is my opinion, and I don't know how to verify it, that super high end items like King Kong, Frankenstein, and Dracula, not only bring very high prices for original release material, but generate high prices across the whole range of different sizes for most of their re-release posters. Even somewhat lesser titles like Ghost of Frankenstein or AC meet Frankenstein sell well on re-release. On the other hand, and putting aside films where maybe there is one very iconic size and image (say the one sheet for Gilda), it seems to me that re-release material from films where any original paper commands high prices, like Robin Hood, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, Flash Gordon or It Happened One Night, seem to drop off much more dramatically from the prices that original release material brings. Anyone have an opinion to share? Thanks Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content . Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases
There's really very few posters where a re-issue poster is worth more than the original. You mentioned two. I would add the re-issue 1-sheets for The Killers and The Pride of the Yankees. Are there others?? However, sometimes I wonder what would happen to the market for these re-issues, if the studio re-released the film now with a killer 1-sheet. Evan - Original Message - From: Kirby McDaniel ki...@movieart.net To: MoPo-L@LISTSERV.AMERICAN.EDU Sent: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 23:50:24 - (UTC) Subject: Re: [MOPO] Re-Releases Rich, I'll take all those original GONE WITH THE WIND and WIZARD OF OZ posters that you haven't sold. Addressing Phillips question, I think that reissue posters, if they are good designs - for example, the NORTH BY NORTHWEST reissue - THE HUSTLER reissue - have enjoyed some appreciation. Other reissues, which seemed to have been indifferently designed, like the 1962 MGM reissues (those films were reissued to get some cash flow for MGM which was hemorrhaging funds to Brando's BOUNTY) still have the reissue stigma that the old-hand collectors assigned to them. Here's a kicker: some video release posters are quite good and can generate some interest from time to time. Kirby McDaniel MovieArt Original Film Posters P.O. Box 4419 Austin TX 78765-4419 512 479 6680 www.movieart.net mobile 512 589 5112 On Aug 28, 2011, at 6:36 PM, Richard Halegua Comic Art wrote: the Universal horror monsters are eternal horror characters and there are always loads of fans for them Dorothy and Rhett don't have many fans anymore At 03:51 PM 8/28/2011, Phillip W. Ayling wrote: I realize that the value of posters is set generally by the consumer marketplace in large measure, and can be affected as well by speculation and trends. It is my opinion, and I don't know how to verify it, that super high end items like King Kong, Frankenstein, and Dracula, not only bring very high prices for original release material, but generate high prices across the whole range of different sizes for most of their re-release posters. Even somewhat lesser titles like Ghost of Frankenstein or AC meet Frankenstein sell well on re-release. On the other hand, and putting aside films where maybe there is one very iconic size and image (say the one sheet for Gilda), it seems to me that re-release material from films where any original paper commands high prices, like Robin Hood, Gone with the Wind, The Wizard of Oz, Flash Gordon or It Happened One Night, seem to drop off much more dramatically from the prices that original release material brings. Anyone have an opinion to share? Thanks Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content. Visit the MoPo Mailing List Web Site at www.filmfan.com ___ How to UNSUBSCRIBE from the MoPo Mailing List Send a message addressed to: lists...@listserv.american.edu In the BODY of your message type: SIGNOFF MOPO-L The author of this message is solely responsible for its content.
