newsfetch
Has anyone tried a program called newsfectch. newsfetch is a powerfull utility to fetch news from an NNTP server and stores in the mailbox format. The files created by newsfetch can be used with any mail reader Could this be used as a standard news mailing program in cooperation with mutt? -- /helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession." Fingerprint: 2F76 2856 776A 3E07 9F3E 452A 17D9 9B28 D75E 0A36 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! 1024D/D75E0A36
Re: newsfetch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] proclaimed on mutt-users that: Has anyone tried a program called newsfectch. url, please newsfetch is a powerfull utility to fetch news from an NNTP server and stores in the mailbox format. The files created by newsfetch can be used with any mail reader sounds like a fetchmail variant - but the whole point of an nntp server is fetching just those mails from the server that you _need_, not the whole kit and kaboodle. Could this be used as a standard news mailing program in cooperation with mutt? Use slrn - it is sufficiently like mutt :) -- Suresh Ramasubramanian | sureshr at staff.juno.com You can't carve your way to success without cutting remarks.
Re: threading problem
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 08:37:25AM +0200, Byrial Jensen wrote: On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 03:18:07 +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: When Mutt does threading, it pays attention to the message times. Right, and that is indeed the problem. 1003: Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:56:48 +0100 Subject: Mapping problem Message 1001 was sent at "Sat, 20 May 2000 07:33:38 EDT", that is 11.33.38 + (UT) Message 1003 was sent at "Sat, 20 May 2000 12:56:48 +0100", that is 11.56.48 + (UT) So message 1001 seems to be sent before than message 1003, and therefore Mutt will not treat it as a reply to message 1003. Good observation. That sure seems to be the problem. In looking again at the header of the original poster's message (1003), I noticed: Received: (qmail 12169 invoked from network); 20 May 2000 10:57:35 - Date: Sat, 20 May 2000 12:56:48 +0100 All the times in the Received: headers and the From header are consistent, but the original poster's clock seems to be fast by an hour. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: I want a different sort of macro
On Tue, May 23, 2000 at 08:52:07PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: Byrial Jensen proclaimed on mutt-users that: But macros work! Just what the doctor ordered. So we can use editor macros to change mailboxes to those folders with long names that are so hard to type, rather than create symlinks or hard links in the shell for them! -- Greg MathesonPractitioners talk about what Chinmin College, Taiwan they do. Theorists talk about [EMAIL PROTECTED] they haven't done.
Re: Location of signature in replies
By the way, where are you finding netiquette rules for email? I am curious. The standard reference is RFC 1855. (One place you can find this is http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html .) As with most RFCs, this is A much better reference is any standard book on good writing. Just because you use a keyboard instead of a pen (or a quill, for that matter) does not change the fact that you are communicating :) Are you telling me I need to check the spelling of e-mail messages and check for use of proper grammar too ?? ;-) You're exactly right though. Writing an e-mail message does *not* negate all the "rules" ! Regards, Hall
Re: threading problem
Gary Johnson muttered: All the times in the Received: headers and the From header are consistent, but the original poster's clock seems to be fast by an hour. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA So, to get the threading in the way to want it just set the Date: header of that message to a reasonable value and you'll be fine. Michael -- If you teach your children to like computers and to know how to gamble then they'll always be interested in something and won't come to no real harm. PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
pgp
Hi guys. I figure that PGP is probably a separate issue, but I'd like to learn about how to use it with mutt. Now, there's a little on it in the manual, but I guess it assumes that you already know what you're doing with PGP, and have some kind of software already installed. I've seen mention of GNU PGP. Is this what most are using? If so, I'll worry about installing that and working with it before worrying about mutt issues. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, 1Z22, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
Re: pgp
Hello ! just get gpg on http://www.gnupg.org read the README file and create your pair of keys to use gpg with mutt, just add this line in your muttrc : source ~/.mutt/gpg.rc you can find gpg.rc in $PREFIX/doc/mutt/samples Antoine On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 10:37:55AM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote: Hi guys. I figure that PGP is probably a separate issue, but I'd like to learn about how to use it with mutt. Now, there's a little on it in the manual, but I guess it assumes that you already know what you're doing with PGP, and have some kind of software already installed. I've seen mention of GNU PGP. Is this what most are using? If so, I'll worry about installing that and working with it before worrying about mutt issues. Thanks, Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, 1Z22, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
Re: pgp
On 2000-05-24 10:37:55 -0400, Michael Soulier wrote: Hi guys. I figure that PGP is probably a separate issue, but I'd like to learn about how to use it with mutt. Now, there's a little on it in the manual, but I guess it assumes that you already know what you're doing with PGP, and have some kind of software already installed. I've seen mention of GNU PGP. Is this what most are using? If so, I'll worry about installing that and working with it before worrying about mutt issues. Just in case your system has a /dev/random device, you should most likely NOT use pgp 5.0i. pgp 2.6 might be a good idea, as may be gnupg. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: threading problem
Michael Tatge: So, to get the threading in the way to want it just set the Date: header of that message to a reasonable value and you'll be fine. that's cool! whenever you suspect something's fishy, you just wade thru your email to check the sequence of dates? or did you already write the program for that? -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[OT] on quoting
On Tue, 23 May 2000, Corey G. wrote: new text full quote Mutt should print a warning if a user wants to send mail and has quoted the way Corey did :) IMHO this quoting style is extremly annoying. Does anyone have a link to good documentation where I might point people using this style to? Somethink like the German http://learn.to/quote yours, peter -- PGP encrypted messages prefered. http://www.cosy.sbg.ac.at/~ppalfrad/
Re: pgp
clemensF writes: Thomas Roessler: Just in case your system has a /dev/random device, you should most likely NOT use pgp 5.0i. pgp 2.6 might be a why's that? PGP 5.0ii's reading of random data from /dev/random does not work. Instead of random numbers, a stream of bytes with the value "1" is read. This makes generated keys predictable under certain cirumstances. To my knowlegde, this has not been widely published yet.
corrupt mail
Hey guys. I'm using mutt 1.2 on HP/UX 10.20, and I keep running into problems with corrupt mailboxes. My inbox is having problems. It's like an incoming mail is overwriting portions of a previous mail. At first I thought it might be Netscape attempting to access the files, so I've redirected my mailbox to a new directory that Netscape wouldn't access, but it's still happening. Has anyone run into this? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, 1Z22, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
Re: Idea: saving vs. deleting
At 2:34 PM EDT on May 24 Marius Gedminas sent off: I suggest adding a new status flag: `d' to indicate that the deletion of this message resulted from decode-save, save-message, or decrypt-save. I like the idea, but d is already used to indicate messages with deleted attachments. How about s? -- coude tat: When the person with the spectrometer gets more telescope time. - D. Kaisler Robert I. Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html
Re: Idea: saving vs. deleting
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 08:34:24PM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: I suggest adding a new status flag: `d' to indicate that the deletion of this message resulted from decode-save, save-message, or decrypt-save. What do you think? Sounds like a great idea to me. =) - Myrddin -- ICQ: 22404528 Why Vegan? http://www.firstmagic.com/vegan --
Re: Binding bug + minor annoyance.
David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One way might be to have mutt ship with no bindings and let you roll all of your own ;-) This tongue-in-cheek comment is actually not a bad idea: Do not hard-code any of the keybindings in the Mutt source, but instead set the defaults in the system Muttrc. This way, it is possible for a site to implement their preferred keybinding policies, without having to "un-Elm-ify" Mutt every time you want to get proper generic bindings. -- David DeSimone | "The doctrine of human equality reposes on this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | that there is no man really clever who has not Hewlett-Packard | found that he is stupid." -- Gilbert K. Chesterson Richardson IT|PGP: 5B 47 34 9F 3B 9A B0 0D AB A6 15 F1 BB BE 8C 44
Re: pgp
On 2000-05-24 19:53:03 +0200, clemensF wrote: Just in case your system has a /dev/random device, you should most likely NOT use pgp 5.0i. pgp 2.6 might be a why's that? In short: The keys generated are more or less bad. See also http://cryptome.org/cipn052400.htm#pgp. -- http://www.guug.de/~roessler/
Re: 1.2 older than 1.0.1?
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 04:08:55PM -0300, Richard Spencer wrote: Hello all! I wasn't able to install latest mutt rpm. According to the error message, I _already_have_ the newest package :-( # rpm -U /home/rks/ftp/mutt-1.2i-1.cfp.rhl6.i386.rpm error: package mutt-1.0.1i-8 (which is newer then mutt-1.2i-1.cfp.rhl6) is already installed Whaaat'ssuuup? btw...I tried rpm -U does anyone use rpm -F? Use the '--force' option to override. - Myrddin -- ICQ: 22404528 Why Vegan? http://www.firstmagic.com/vegan --
set print
Ok, according to my manual, the $print variable, if set... print Type: quadoption Default: ask-no Controls whether or not Mutt asks for confirmation before printing. This is useful for people (like me) who accidentally hit ``p'' often. I have "set print" in my .muttrc file, but when I hit "p", it doesn't ask for confirmation. Does it need to be set to something like 1, or "y", or something? Mike -- Michael P. Soulier, 1Z22, SKY Tel: 613-765-4699 (ESN: 39-54699) Optical Networks, Nortel Networks "...the word HACK is used as a verb to indicate a massive amount of nerd-like effort." -Harley Hahn, A Student's Guide to UNIX
Re: 1.2 older than 1.0.1?
I wasn't able to install latest mutt rpm. According to the error message, I _already_have_ the newest package :-( # rpm -U /home/rks/ftp/mutt-1.2i-1.cfp.rhl6.i386.rpm error: package mutt-1.0.1i-8 (which is newer then mutt-1.2i-1.cfp.rhl6) is already installed I do use RPMs, but have never built one, so I'm no expert... ;-) But, maybe the person who built either package had a wrong system date ??? There is a BUILDTIME file that may be a factor. What you *could* do is simply "rpm -e mutt". This will remove the global Muttrc file, so back it up in case you're using it. If you're using a .muttrc in your home dir, rpm won't touch it. Then, install the 1.2 package with either "rpm -i mutt-1.2..." or "rpm -U mutt-1.2..." Good luck! Hall
Re: Idea: saving vs. deleting
At 3:51 PM EDT on May 24 Marius Gedminas sent off: On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 01:50:29PM -0400, Rob Reid wrote: At 2:34 PM EDT on May 24 Marius Gedminas sent off: I suggest adding a new status flag: `d' to indicate that the deletion of this message resulted from decode-save, save-message, or decrypt-save. I like the idea, but d is already used to indicate messages with deleted attachments. How about s? That's too already used for PGP signed but unverified messages. Maybe `w' (written)? I only see (capital) S whether or not I've tried to verify the signature. Is this a new feature ( 0.95)? (I'm giving the alpha/beta version extra testing...otherwise known as waiting for 1.2.1.) -- "It is bad luck to be superstitious." - Andrew Mathis Robert I. Reid [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/ PGP Key: http://astro.utoronto.ca/~reid/pgp.html
Re: set print
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 03:54:23PM -0400, Michael Soulier wrote: Ok, according to my manual, the $print variable, if set... print Type: quadoption Default: ask-no Controls whether or not Mutt asks for confirmation before printing. This is useful for people (like me) who accidentally hit ``p'' often. I have "set print" in my .muttrc file, but when I hit "p", it doesn't ask for confirmation. Does it need to be set to something like 1, or "y", or something? Yes. Use set print=ask-yes # or ask-no Marius Gedminas -- When in danger, or in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Re: Idea: saving vs. deleting
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 03:36:09PM -0400, Rob Reid wrote: I like the idea, but d is already used to indicate messages with deleted attachments. How about s? That's too already used for PGP signed but unverified messages. Maybe `w' (written)? I only see (capital) S whether or not I've tried to verify the signature. Is this a new feature ( 0.95)? (I'm giving the alpha/beta version extra testing...otherwise known as waiting for 1.2.1.) Perhaps. I'm using 1.2. I don't remember when that was introduced. Marius Gedminas -- As easy as 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716
Re: Location of signature in replies
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 07:36:06AM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote: By the way, where are you finding netiquette rules for email? I am curious. The standard reference is RFC 1855. (One place you can find this is http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html .) As with most RFCs, this is A much better reference is any standard book on good writing. Just because you use a keyboard instead of a pen (or a quill, for that matter) does not change the fact that you are communicating :) Are you telling me I need to check the spelling of e-mail messages and check for use of proper grammar too ?? ;-) You're exactly right though. Writing an e-mail message does *not* negate all the "rules" ! You guys just will not give up until I follow the rules. I like persistence and therefore will try to follow the RFC. Everyone should be happy now. Regards, Hall ---end quoted text--- -- Best Regards, Corey
Re: Binding bug + minor annoyance.
David DeSimone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 24 May 2000: This tongue-in-cheek comment is actually not a bad idea: Do not hard-code any of the keybindings in the Mutt source, but instead set the defaults in the system Muttrc. This way, it is possible for a site to implement their preferred keybinding policies, without having to "un-Elm-ify" Mutt every time you want to get proper generic bindings. That's good as an option, but then the problem would be that you can't have an independent stand-alone binary that works even with no resource files... It would be useless (without a .muttrc), you couldn't even add your own commands inside it because : wouldn't have been defined. :-) Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / I don't want the whole world, I just want your half.
bounced messages
Do bounced messages include attachments? -- /helfman "At any given moment, you may find the ticket to the circus that has always been in your possession." Fingerprint: 2F76 2856 776A 3E07 9F3E 452A 17D9 9B28 D75E 0A36 GnuPG http://www.gnupg.org Get Private! 1024D/D75E0A36
Re: threading problem
clemensF muttered: Michael Tatge: So, to get the threading in the way to want it just set the Date: header of that message to a reasonable value and you'll be fine. that's cool! whenever you suspect something's fishy, you just wade thru your email to check the sequence of dates? or did you already write the program for that? I didn't do that, it was the original poster, that already did it. If he for God's sake can't live with the wrong threading, editing the header seems to be the easiest workaround. If you find this cool, buy a coat. You'll be warmer then. :) Michael -- RAM wasn't built in a day. PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
deleting and undeleting
Hi everyone, Once again proving myself a total newbie :-), I would like to know whether there is anyway in which I can undelete a message which "sits" in the middle of 10 other deleted messages, without having to undelete the first four - does this make any kind of sense to you? Thank you for any tips, Manuel
Re: bounced messages
[EMAIL PROTECTED] muttered: Do bounced messages include attachments? Yepp! HTH, Michael -- Usage: fortune -P [] -a [xsz] [Q: [file]] [rKe9] -v6[+] dataspec ... inputdir PGP-fingerprint: DECA E9D2 EBDD 0FE0 0A65 40FA 5967 ACA1 0B57 7C13
Re: deleting and undeleting
Manuel Arriaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 25 May 2000: Once again proving myself a total newbie :-), I would like to know whether there is anyway in which I can undelete a message which "sits" in the middle of 10 other deleted messages, without having to undelete the first four - does this make any kind of sense to you? You can use the next-entry and previous-entry functions, bound to K and J (yes capitals) by default. These do not skip deleted messages. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning -- Isaiah 5:11
Re: deleting and undeleting
* Manuel Arriaga ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [000524 09:57]: Once again proving myself a total newbie :-), I would like to know whether there is anyway in which I can undelete a message which "sits" in the middle of 10 other deleted messages, without having to undelete the first four - does this make any kind of sense to you? Just type the "number" of the message and mutt will "jump" to it. Then, hit your "d" key. Hall
Exclusive matching
Alice, Bob, and Carol want to find all email that was sent from any one
of them to BOTH of the others, but that was not sent to ANY fourth
person.
I can make mutt match all messages that include Alice, Bob, and Carol:
~L alice ~L bob ~L carol
My mailbox has a message from Carol to Alice, excluding Bob, which this
pattern does not match. Fine.
But I need still to exclude messages which are cc:ed to any fourth
party. The Mutt manual says:
4.2.1. Pattern Modifier
Note that patterns matching 'lists' of addresses (notably c,C,p,P and
t) match if there is at least one match in the whole list. If you want
to make sure that all elements of that list match, you need to prefix
your pattern with ^. This example matches all mails which only has
recipients from Germany.
If I read that correctly, then this pattern:
^ ~L alice | ~L bob | ~L carol
should exclude messages to Dave. It doesn't -- it matches everything.
A look at the source code suggests that this is a misread, though, and
that "^" goes before any pattern component. Well, this pattern:
^~L alice | ^~L bob | ^~L carol
doesn't match anything at all.
I expect by combining these two, I get what I want:
~L alice ~L bob ~L carol (^~L alice | ^~L bob | ^~L carol)
But that doesn't work.
I briefly tried using parens in a regexp way -- e.g.,
~L (alice|bob|carol)
but that doesn't seem to work at all. And when I try escaping the
parens just to see what happens, I get "Unmatched ( or \(".
I'm not sure whether I have a bug, an intractable problem, or a clue
deficiency. Any tips? What's the right way to approach this? Mailing
lists/aliases are not really a solution for this particular problem.
Thanks. Here's my mutt -v. I attached a mailbox that contains 8
messages: 6 that I want matched, 1 that is from Carol to Alice, Bob,
and Dave, and 1 that does not include Bob. (The last two should not be
matched.) Ignore the "patches applied" part. :)
Mutt 1.3i (2000-05-09)
Copyright (C) 1996-2000 Michael R. Elkins and others.
Mutt comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY; for details type `mutt -vv'.
Mutt is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; type `mutt -vv' for details.
System: SunOS 5.8 [using slang 10309]
Compile options:
-DOMAIN
+DEBUG
-HOMESPOOL -USE_SETGID +USE_DOTLOCK +USE_FCNTL -USE_FLOCK
+USE_IMAP +USE_GSS +USE_SSL +USE_POP -HAVE_REGCOMP +USE_GNU_REGEX
+HAVE_COLOR +HAVE_PGP -BUFFY_SIZE -EXACT_ADDRESS +ENABLE_NLS
SENDMAIL="/usr/lib/sendmail"
MAILPATH="/var/mail"
SHAREDIR="/opt/pkgs/mutt-1.3/lib/mutt"
SYSCONFDIR="/opt/pkgs/mutt-1.3/etc"
ISPELL="/opt/bin/ispell"
Patches applied:
Patch Name: mutt-1.1.12.dgc.krb5.2
+ URI: http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt
+ Desc: Fix Kerberos 5 checking for pre-1.1 MIT in configure.in
Patch Name: mutt-1.1.12.skimo.exmhthread.1
+ Desc: Modify threading for exmh's (and others'?) oddball In-Reply-To:
Patch Name: mutt-1.3.dgc.xlabel.3
+ URI: http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt
+ Desc: Add in-line status-bar editor for X-Label: header
Patch Name: patch-1.1.14.waf.compose_status.1
+ Desc: Add summary format for Compose menu
To contact the developers, please mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
To report a bug, please use the muttbug utility.
Re: Exclusive matching
On 2000.05.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "David Champion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I attached a mailbox that contains 8 messages: 6 that I want matched, 1 that is from Carol to Alice, Bob, and Dave, and 1 that does not include Bob. (The last two should not be matched.) Oops. *Now* I attached a mailbox. example.mbox.gz
Re: deleting and undeleting
Manuel Arriaga [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 25 May 2000: But in my computer j and k jump messages marked for deletion. Yes, they do on my computer too. Use capital J and K (shift+j, shift+k) instead. Mikko -- // Mikko Hänninen, aka. Wizzu // [EMAIL PROTECTED] // http://www.iki.fi/wiz/ // The Corrs list maintainer // net.freak // DALnet IRC operator / // Interests: roleplaying, Linux, the Net, fantasy scifi, the Corrs / Foolproof operation: All parameters are hard coded.
Re: deleting and undeleting
Sometime ago, Manuel Arriaga said: Once again proving myself a total newbie :-), I would like to know whether there is anyway in which I can undelete a message which "sits" in the middle of 10 other deleted messages, without having to undelete the first four - does this make any kind of sense to you? Thank you for any tips, to delete, say the 10th message, press "10" (without the " ) Press "u". -neelakanth
Re: threading problem
On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 09:14:17PM +0200, Michael Tatge wrote: I didn't do that, it was the original poster, that already did it. If he for God's sake can't live with the wrong threading, editing the header seems to be the easiest workaround. If you find this cool, buy a coat. You'll be warmer then. :) I beg your pardon. The point of my original post was that there appeared to be an error in mutt's threading. I thought the error was worth fixing, or at least worth understanding. The point of editing the mailbox was to understand the problem, not to fix the threading. Now that I understand what's going on (an incorrectly-set clock), I can certainly live with it. -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: Location of signature in replies
Corey --
...and then Corey G. said...
% On Wed, May 24, 2000 at 07:36:06AM -0400, Hall Stevenson wrote:
%By the way, where are you finding netiquette rules for email? I am
...
% http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1855.html .) As with most RFCs, this is
...
% You're exactly right though. Writing an e-mail message does *not* negate
% all the "rules" !
%
% You guys just will not give up until I follow the rules. I like
% persistence and therefore will try to follow the RFC.
Hey, cool. Yes, that will make lots of folks happy. This really boils
down to an age-old religious war :-)
%
% Everyone should be happy now.
Um... Well, if you *really* want to make everyone happy, you can be a
bit more agressive in your trimming; there was a gawdawful lot up there
even though you only needed to directly reference the most recent part.
I think that a common misconception (IMHO) these days is that the entire
past history of the email thread has to be included just in case someone
new gets added and needs to catch up. I figure that anyone new can
either pick up on the background or get bounced copies of the original
mail instead of sending this vastly- and quickly-growing note around.
But that's just *my* opinion :-)
%
%
% Regards,
% Hall
%
% ---end quoted text---
Another thing that might make mutt-mail more convenient for you is that
you don't need to include such a marker; when you run out of quoting
prefixes ('' chars or, in my case, '% ' chars, for example), then you've
run out of quoted text.
%
% --
% Best Regards,
% Corey
HTH HAND
:-D
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PGP signature
Re: deleting and undeleting
On Thu, May 25, 2000 at 03:21:13AM +0100, Manuel Arriaga wrote: Hi, Neelakanth and Mikko, Thank you both for the tips, but only Neelakanth's works with my: pressing a numeric key brings up the "jump to message:" minibuffer and allows me to reach any message (del/undel). But in my computer j and k jump messages marked for deletion. Read Mikko's message again. He said, You can use the next-entry and previous-entry functions, bound to K and J (yes capitals) by default. These do not skip deleted messages. To reiterate, lower-case (i.e., small) j and k do skip deleted messages; upper-case (i.e., capital, i.e., the ones you get by pressing the Shift key) J and K do not skip deleted messages. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | RF Communications Product Generation Unit | Spokane, Washington, USA
Re: deleting and undeleting
Manuel Arriaga: allows me to reach any message (del/undel). But in my computer j and k jump messages marked for deletion. he specifically told you to use capital letters, which work. -- clemens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Exclusive matching
On 2000.05.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"David Champion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A look at the source code suggests that this is a misread, though, and
that "^" goes before any pattern component. Well, this pattern:
^~L alice | ^~L bob | ^~L carol
doesn't match anything at all.
I'm still curious about this, but read on.
On 2000.05.24, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
"Mikko Hänninen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Wed, 24 May 2000:
I briefly tried using parens in a regexp way -- e.g.,
~L (alice|bob|carol)
but that doesn't seem to work at all.
I didn't look into this deeply, but just to throw an idea out --
did you try something like:
^~L (alice|bob|carol)
That was one of the first things I tried, but as you noted below, that
makes Mutt treat the '|' as a pattern separator.
parens just to see what happens, I get "Unmatched ( or \(".
That sounds like a parson problem... Hmm, yes, if you escape the ()'s,
then you need to escape the |'s too, or else they will be seen as as
separating patterns, as opposed to separating expressions within a
single pattern.
OK. I didn't need to escape the parens at all, just the pipes. This
expression is exactly what I'm looking for:
~L alice ~L bob ~L carol ^~L (alice\|bob\|carol)
(I was hoping that the parser would change the meaning of '|' inside
parens -- I didn't think of "\|" because I wasn't looking for a literal
pipe.)
Now, suppose I'm Alice. I'd like to be able to remove the "alice"
parts of that and let $alternates cover it, but I don't see any way to
do that. Is there some way to get $alternates into the expression?
Should there be? I'm happy with a "yes" to either question. :)
Thanks, Mikko!
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