Re: [NetBehaviour] bug report about furtherfield.org
Hi list I have a proposal to make: Would it not be convenient to seperate posts about technicalities to be collected on a seperate list, instead of intervening with more content bases posts? Just a thought Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 30 Jan 2011, at 14:13, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: Thanks Yann for the heads up. Will follow it up. : ) Ruth -Original Message- From: Yann Le Guennec i...@x-arn.org Reply-to: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] bug report about furtherfield.org Date: Sat, 29 Jan 2011 23:20:31 +0100 POC Le 29/01/2011 23:14, Yann Le Guennec a écrit : troubles with accentuated (accented?) latin characters http://www.furtherfield.org/netbehaviour/rectangle-central-0 what follows will not be imported from the netbehaviour list to the new furtherfield website : é à è hello world this is a test ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CCLXVI
Protester splashed by the powers of global capitalism Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 30 Jan 2011, at 19:37, martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com wrote: pedestrian. On 30 Jan 2011, at 18:11, dave miller wrote: cranberries? On 30 January 2011 14:35, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: MANIK...JANUARY...2011... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
Wow! Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 25 Jan 2011, at 01:56, lucille c c.luci...@gmail.com wrote: ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] The First Virtual Art Fair Starts Tomorrow
Contextualizing and virtualizing is destroying the sensual experience Talking about talking about experiencing is replacing experiencing Did you see, That?! This phrase is a common way to avoid the reflection on what one actually has been seeing Instead of experiencing the direct influence the 'world' imposes on the senses, attentention is distracted from it, directed away from this experience so not to fully being imprinted by it Same goes for talking, writing about writing, the internet and ultimately of art 'ann sich' By putting the accent on the dialogue the impression looses its grip and frees the spectator from staying caught in the sensual confrontation To fully understand a work of art one needs to make possible to maintain the contact with its aura, by artifically transporting and seperating this, art looses its workings and what is left are commodifiable artefacts These artefacts are discussed and analyzed over and over, covering the artwork with an acidic manteau of intellectual dust, slowly destroyingits intrinsic value Let's focus on the question: What did you see instead of Did you see, That! When approaching art such a way the right question is asked and interpretation about the art object is made possible, by posing the latter question the residual, human opinions about it are communicated and eventually incorporated in the vocubalary of the so called artworld and replacing the original with diluted derivates http://www.toutfait.com/issues/issue_3/Collections/rrs/images/urinal_b.jpg Starting with introducing his conceptual ideas in the artworld Marcel Duchamp betrayed future artists in not being able to experiencing their art but instead succeeded in persuading the artworld to embrace the intangible and immaterial, resulting in the era of abstract expressionism to conceptual art to pop art and finally web/net art Lastly, when looking to Duchamps readymade, Fountain, signed R. Mutt 1917, one sees - not being influenced by heresay and arttheory - the most obvious thing what depicts his artwork; namely just an urinal, nothing else One century of indoctrinating art theoretical bullshit really pisses me off!! AA 2011 Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 21 Jan 2011, at 10:27, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: http://happyfamousartists.blogspot.com/2011/01/first-virtual-art-fair-starts-in-2-days.html from jan 22-30, u can visit the vip art fair which will take place entirely on the internet. the fair is going to bring together some of the best galleries, and is said to have the potential of becoming the art fair concept for the future. read more in the economist, on art fag city, in the telegraph wall street journal. I post this in the expectation of examples of prior art. :-) ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] [AA2010] Ueber die Wahrheit - Virtual Sculpture
Thank you Alan, of giving me the feeling that I am not the only one, who is really pissed of!! Together we stand, united we fall Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 20 Jan 2011, at 16:47, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: It doesn't feel like a problem. We're just banned. Everything costs; if you're not part of an institution (university, gallery, museum, mommy- daddy trust fund, corporation), you're not even part of the problem or solution - you're just not there. The people I know who actually make money from their work are all showing in Chelsea, invest, have money already, big money brings big money. Our income the past couple of years has just been negative. I can post all I want online and show online, but even to get into shows I'm not invited to, I have to pay jury fees; to go to conferences, there are fees, to breathe there are fees. We're really glad here health care might really be repealed; we'll die off earlier. And our friends are so rich! - Alan == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ current text http://www.alansondheim.org/qw.txt == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] OpenLase
Far out! Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 17 Jan 2011, at 11:31, James Morris jwm.art@gmail.com wrote: open source laser projectors using the JACK open source real time audio server. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEG68O6jpjo ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Congratulations to the Tunesian People!
Hi Peter I share your concerns, but wish the Tunesians at least a couple of days in freedom and hope for a better future The role the army will play shall be crucial for times ahead and until now they did allright, contrary to the corrupt looting police forces Also it will fuel a big gulf of courage to oppositional forces in Libanon and Egypt. Do not forget that once Arafat's PLO had his headquarters in Tunis until the US drove him out of Beirut See: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?36781-Bombing-of-the-PLO-headquarters-in-Tunis We still have to fear the double speak of the American administration Best Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 15 Jan 2011, at 08:46, Peter O'Doherty m...@peterodoherty.net wrote: On 01/15/2011 03:51 AM, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards wrote: Ben Ali fled with his corrupt family to Saudi Arabia Needed a proper haircut! Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Very good news indeed but I can't help being pessimistic about the future of Tunisia. I can think of few examples of post-conflict society or countries struggling to become so (Ukraine, Bosnia, Irak, Ireland) where the void hasn't been filled by capitalist profiteers. Let's hope the Tunisian opposition has some good plans. Best, Peter -- //= - Peter O'Doherty - http://www.peterodoherty.net - m...@peterodoherty.net - facebook: Peter-ODoherty //= ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Shiva Mantra
For now I am God, Destroyer of All the Worlds (3x) You are but a hungry Fly Feasting on a dead Horse's Eye For now I am God, Destroyer of All the Worlds Written as a rememberance to the Saba massacre in West Beirut 1982 Listen: http://burgerwaanzin.nl/Dwarfcraft%20Great%20Destroyer.mp3 Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Congratulations to the Tunesian People!
Ben Ali fled with his corrupt family to Saudi Arabia Needed a proper haircut! Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Contemporary Art @ Boğaziçi - Interview Project, 2010
Hi, Suze Hupkes, Yeditepe University / Hogeschool Utrecht, did an interview with me as part of the Contemporary Art @ Boğaziçi - Interview Project, 2010, Instanbul Contemporary Art Museum (IsCAM) Read it at: http://www.nictoglobe.com/new/room/New%20Room/2006/Andreas%20maria%20jacobs.html Enjoy! 'My head is my life and my life is my head.' Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] 2011 prime and more
From: http://www.meddr.nl/2011/01/01/2011-is-een-priemgetal-en-teve/ Sorry in Dutch, but Babelfish is your interlanguage friend! Best Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 2 Jan 2011, at 00:32, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Wow, where is this from, thanks! - Alan On Sat, 1 Jan 2011, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards wrote: Hi Apart from being a prime, 2011 is the sum of 11 consecutive prime numbers starting at 157! Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 1 Jan 2011, at 18:30, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Do let us know about the write-in campaign! I want to add that I'd be careful of group runnings of a non-profit; I've seen politics develop constantly that way, and almost always not for the better. One of the things that, in the US, seemed the most problematic, was the idea of matching funds - suddenly the *donor* appears who wants some decision-making powers. One of the great things about Furtherfield is its openness and the kindness of people here - it's wonderful - and in a way that, and the creative work that emerges - are the most important things! Happy New Years! - Alan, glad we have the prime number (2011) back == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ current text http://www.alansondheim.org/qv.txt == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ current text http://www.alansondheim.org/qv.txt == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] supporting furtherfield?
Hi Apart from being a prime, 2011 is the sum of 11 consecutive prime numbers starting at 157! Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 1 Jan 2011, at 18:30, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Do let us know about the write-in campaign! I want to add that I'd be careful of group runnings of a non-profit; I've seen politics develop constantly that way, and almost always not for the better. One of the things that, in the US, seemed the most problematic, was the idea of matching funds - suddenly the *donor* appears who wants some decision-making powers. One of the great things about Furtherfield is its openness and the kindness of people here - it's wonderful - and in a way that, and the creative work that emerges - are the most important things! Happy New Years! - Alan, glad we have the prime number (2011) back == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ current text http://www.alansondheim.org/qv.txt == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] May E-Poetry Presentation precis (Buffalo, NY)
Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 29 Dec 2010, at 09:06, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: May E-Poetry Presentation precis (Buffalo, NY) I will talk about the fluid semiotics of virtual world productions, in terms of Kristevan semiosis and fluid logics governing both avatar and object behaviors through scriptings and 'signage' embedded in scripts or within the visible local and fluid landscape itself. I will relate all of this to the future of human/organic society on the planet, with or without the Internet, and I will do this in fifteen minutes. I would like audio- video output for laptop, but will not need online connectivity. Theses: 1. Culture is always already virtual. Agree, but also a truism 2. Culture is always already abject and inscriptive. Agree, but what is the point? 3. Abjection and inscription are entangled, irresolute, corroding both truth functions and definitions. Agree 4. Culture is all the way down; every organism is a priori cultural. Agree partly, what are the cultural products of for instance bacteria? 5. Culture is intimately related to alterity. 6. Virtual worlds permit logical, physical, organic, sexual, linguistic, and psychological flows, without fundamental basis. I doubt that 7. Virtual worlds are the future of the exploration of inscription, culture, and the imaginary. Disagree, virtuality leads to nothing at all, more ideology, more make believe and still more nonsensical quasi science 8. A parabola leads from virtual worlds to the true-real physical world, which is already produced, itself as virtual. This makes no sense 9. Physics is the structure of the true-real physical world. Obviously 10. The appetition of physical returns us to thesis 1. Logically ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] May E-Poetry Presentation precis (Buffalo, NY)
Hi Simon As a bactery myself I thought that culture was the total of human thought and practises and not the way life grows on a petri dish. But that's problably an 'art' related term not suited for discussions dealing with humans What are we talking about biology or humanities? Or maybe the concept of 'autopoiesis' viewed as a post gnostic? Adamos as the bringer of truth for herbal life? Or is this supposed to be 'cross cultural'? I am very sorry, but being aquintant with the works of Guattari and the father of cybernetics; Norbert Wiener, I am having difficulties with the obviousness of these theses Some interesting works: See: Fransisco Varela et al.: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Varela Guatari:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Félix_Guattari Norbert Wiener:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 29 Dec 2010, at 12:24, Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk wrote: Bacteria is the very definition of culture! As Les Patterson (sometime cultural attache for Australia) said, culture - that's what grows between your toes. Best Simon On 29/12/2010 08:53, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: 4. Culture is all the way down; every organism is a priori cultural. Agree partly, what are the cultural products of for instance bacteria? Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ s.bi...@eca.ac.uk http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] cixa : Ephemerides : Memory the Mechanical Eye
Wow!! Finally someone who is making sense! Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 29 Dec 2010, at 19:17, Aditya Mandayam manda...@cs.stanford.edu wrote: Photography is brutal. A photograph is the end result of a vicious performing act. The vocabulary surrounding a photograph is violent. There are shutters and filters and bellows; aberrations and distortions; solarizers, polarizers, sensitizers; developers, fixers, stoppers; these, in conjunction with those other progeny of the industrial revolution, are used to shoot subjects, to capture them. A darkroom is simply that: a camera obscura. It is at once terrifying and purposeful in its intent. Film paper, once exposed to the tyranny of that which lies without, may not lie naked again until they have been rehabilitated, until they have recovered to a state deemed meaningful: an object to be consumed. This process of selection is exquisite in its sadism; we now have machines that make light of these macabre methods. The earliest foto is a blink. A blink is a preventative mechanism. One blinks to see better. One blinks to lubricate. A blink is also a pause. The seeds of photography were sown when we first noticed the images formed on the inside of eyelids, at once black and pinkorange, shape-shifting and electric. The sneeze came next. Now we had a sound to emulate: the shutter. The Eye is King. The Mind is his Queen. We now live within that panopoly of apparati the mechanical Eye has birthed: chortles, sniffles, chuckles, giggles; cracks, queefs, farts, wheezes; yawns, moans, grimaces, frissons; burps belches, whispers snores. http://cixa.org/ephemerides/mame.php ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] May E-Poetry Presentation precis (Buffalo, NY)
Well Simon, I will check out this acclaimed genius right away! Helas, I thought he/she ? was a neo gnostic, but sadly it appears I was mistaken Can't wait to be initiated though Best Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 29 Dec 2010, at 22:26, Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk wrote: Hi Andreas I fear you are simply unaware of the Ocker wisdom that is Les Patterson's socio-political vision. It's not so much cross-cultural as sub- cultured. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F7E7lAp-hM I'm familiar, as I am sure most on Netbehaviour are, with Gutattari, Weiner and Varela (there are some strained connections in that mix) but Patterson demonstrates why we might need to broaden our cultural frameworks. Best Simon On 29/12/2010 17:51, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi Simon As a bactery myself I thought that culture was the total of human thought and practises and not the way life grows on a petri dish. But that's problably an 'art' related term not suited for discussions dealing with humans What are we talking about biology or humanities? Or maybe the concept of 'autopoiesis' viewed as a post gnostic? Adamos as the bringer of truth for herbal life? Or is this supposed to be 'cross cultural'? I am very sorry, but being aquintant with the works of Guattari and the father of cybernetics; Norbert Wiener, I am having difficulties with the obviousness of these theses Some interesting works: See: Fransisco Varela et al.: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Varela Guatari:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Félix_Guattari Norbert Wiener:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 29 Dec 2010, at 12:24, Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk wrote: Bacteria is the very definition of culture! As Les Patterson (sometime cultural attache for Australia) said, culture - that's what grows between your toes. Best Simon On 29/12/2010 08:53, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: 4. Culture is all the way down; every organism is a priori cultural. Agree partly, what are the cultural products of for instance bacteria? Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ s.bi...@eca.ac.uk http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ s.bi...@eca.ac.uk http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] May E-Poetry Presentation precis (Buffalo, NY)
H! It turns out that LP *) is like Andy Warhola a fictional comedian of the first rank, how could I knew that!, seriously as I am Nevertheless Varela et al. did a very nice job investigating in machine/men interaction / diffusion / convolution etc etc and lay the base of what current practioners might call 'bioart' But stating that virtuality is our new heaven on earth is not being funny but being stupid likewise everything Second Life related I once was there and was shocked by the almost fascistic social behaviour I was welcomed with For me a very bad sign and not a concept or cultural endaveour to delve deeper into, I am more interested in evaluating its underlying authoritarian, libido driven societal power constructs Best Andreas Maria Jacobs 'Culture stinks more than Ten dead Rats' *) http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Les_Patterson w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 29 Dec 2010, at 22:40, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Well Simon, I will check out this acclaimed genius right away! Helas, I thought he/she ? was a neo gnostic, but sadly it appears I was mistaken Can't wait to be initiated though Best Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 29 Dec 2010, at 22:26, Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk wrote: Hi Andreas I fear you are simply unaware of the Ocker wisdom that is Les Patterson's socio-political vision. It's not so much cross-cultural as sub- cultured. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F7E7lAp-hM I'm familiar, as I am sure most on Netbehaviour are, with Gutattari, Weiner and Varela (there are some strained connections in that mix) but Patterson demonstrates why we might need to broaden our cultural frameworks. Best Simon On 29/12/2010 17:51, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Hi Simon As a bactery myself I thought that culture was the total of human thought and practises and not the way life grows on a petri dish. But that's problably an 'art' related term not suited for discussions dealing with humans What are we talking about biology or humanities? Or maybe the concept of 'autopoiesis' viewed as a post gnostic? Adamos as the bringer of truth for herbal life? Or is this supposed to be 'cross cultural'? I am very sorry, but being aquintant with the works of Guattari and the father of cybernetics; Norbert Wiener, I am having difficulties with the obviousness of these theses Some interesting works: See: Fransisco Varela et al.: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francisco_Varela Guatari:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Félix_Guattari Norbert Wiener:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norbert_Wiener Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 29 Dec 2010, at 12:24, Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk wrote: Bacteria is the very definition of culture! As Les Patterson (sometime cultural attache for Australia) said, culture - that's what grows between your toes. Best Simon On 29/12/2010 08:53, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: 4. Culture is all the way down; every organism is a priori cultural. Agree partly, what are the cultural products of for instance bacteria? Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ s.bi...@eca.ac.uk http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk/ s.bi...@eca.ac.uk http://www.elmcip.net/ http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.
@allan Same things go for Europe and maybe even more so for the UK After WW2 and after receiving economic 'aid' the Marshall program, Europe was restyled in a neolib replica of american signature Resulting in the loss of its own specific mores i.e. on social experimental based economies viz. Marx/Lenin, Brecht/Weil and the influences of the French revolution and freethinkers like Baruch d'Espinoza Maybe in losing the war both from the Nazis and from its liberators, Europe struggled hard and is still struggling to overcome this defeat, intellectually, polito-economical and artistic Andy Warhol is a good example of a non european attitude towards the ethics of capitalized art, whereas In Europe there is a more distant relation with commodifying art. He uses art as a economical way to express its freedom in doing so art lost its a significant intrinsic value cf. Walter Benjamin's writings As such he started a trend later immitated and copied by European artists as well So class struggle changed it route from working class liberation towards a broader path: liberating middle class from its alleged dependance on financial governance both corporate and governemental In partying with both sides art made itself suspicious so to say; a toy for the nouveau rich and the political ignorant middle classes This has done no good for the love of the common people for everything art related, on the contrary it had provoked a enormous amount of hate and envy towards its merits In this situation people just stop distinguishing between the individual expression and the connection with its economical environment Julian Assange tries to break up also this very dilemma by demanding not only openness from governement and corporate power but also for openness from a broader and public audience Hence there is something to look forward, what was about time Best Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 11 Dec 2010, at 19:45, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: What Chomsky said then is even truer today; in a way Mike Davis' City of Quartz with its analysis of enclaves/home owners' associations said it all. I don't want to veer the discussion off-course, just point out that it's difficult to judge behavio(u)r from a distance. For example I personally like Warhol and found/find him much more of a cultural disturbance, being here, than he might appear elsewhere. As for the rise in the art market and alliance w/ capital, I wouldn't blame the artists so much as the deep infrastructural changes that have occurred in both the US and Europe; before Soho's collapse, as prices started to rise, sales seemed mainly to be to Europeans. In the US the relative collapse of granting organizations to individual artists weeded out a lot of subver- sion - not to mention the usual attacks against Serrano, Mappelthorpe, etc. But that is a long and complex story. - Alan On Sat, 11 Dec 2010, Ana Vald?s wrote: Your post touched me, Alan. I have several friends in NY and they are in dispair, they all voted for Obama not because they were democrats but because they wanted a real change. And now they discovered the system is so mighty it can reproduce itself and Obama is the continuity of Bush, not the opposite. I met Noam Chomsky first time 1984, I did a long interview with him for a large Swedish newespaper. We met in his tiny room at the MIT, he cooked Nicaraguan coffe in a Primus kitchen. He told me Ana don't be naiv. The Democrats and the Republicans are the same party, with similar agendas and the politic class is ruthless in the both. Ana On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 7:14 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: I don't want to justify attitudes in the US and can't speak for Rhizome for that matter but I do want to say that what's going on here - Wikileaks is not as important or violent as some of the other things going on. Some examples - Obama keeping the Bush onslaught on the Environmental Protection Agency in place; his backing the Bush tax cuts for the rich; the failure of health-care; the daily dose of ugly racism and ignorance from the heart of the Republican party; the increase in violent crime (at least here in NY) and increase in homelessness; the long soup kitchen lines; the arrogance of the rich and railroading of grass-roots organizations; the onslaught against immigration and anchor babies; the constant lies and viciousness of Fox News, Rush Limbaugh, and others; the constant war in Afghanistan and clandestine wars elsewhere; the ugliness of a Congress that can't even grant the 9/11 workers decent healthcare; the hatred of Muslims; the national debt creating an economy tottering on the brink of chaos; minor things like open season for bear hunting in New Jersey; the closing of firehouses and other basic
Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.
Subversion is not a political attitude, it is a way of life inline: IMG_8005.JPG Shame on our justice systems and the prosecution of our idealistic motivated youth, which are threatened all over the world by the fillistines called judges More examples of injustice in our so called democracies: Hungary: Asisstence given by child birth at home, imprisoned until at least January 2011 Source : chtodelat Us Chigaco Three young women accused of travelling to Palestine put on trial by the FBI Source: hufftington post And so it goes on and on and on What is there to stop falling in a cynical state of mind and a profound sadness about the failure of the human project? How to survive in a bitter and cold world without shared ethical and moral principles ? I am deeply depressed by the current situation and can hardly believe it will be better during my lifetime Liberators turn out to be ursurpators in the very end Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 11 Dec 2010, at 11:24, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Angles On Anonymous. A number of readers are sending in links related to Anonymous, the Internet phenomenon — don't call them a group — behind the controversial DDoS attacks on commercial entities that fail to support WikiLeaks. The best insight into Anonymous comes from the Economist's Babbage blogger, who hung out in one of their IRC channels (http://www.economist.com/blogs/babbage/2010/12/more_wikileaks). Reader nk497 points out that UK users looking to join Anonymous's DDoS army should be aware they could face a jail term of up to two years (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/security/363523/wikileaks-protest-tool-could-carry-two-year-jail-stretch ); simply downloading the LOIC software used in the DDoSing could suffice to earn a conviction. One 16-year-old has been arrested (http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/12/first-arrest-made-in-wikileaks-revenge-attacks.ars ) in The Netherlands and is charged with participating in the DDoS. Reader ancientribe sends in coverage of a claim by one security outfit that several existing criminal botnets have joined forces (http://www.darkreading.com/database-security/167901020/security/attacks-breaches/228800076/botnet-operators-set-to-join-operation-payback.html ) with Anonymous's Operation: Payback. And reader Stoobalou notes a Thing.co.uk story on a manifesto of sorts (http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/12/10/who-are-anonymous-and-what-do-they-want/ ) that purports to come from ANON OPS, even though Anonymous disclaims any central spokesperson or entity - press release here (http://dump.no/files/467072ba2a42/ANONOPS_The_Press_Release.pdf) PDF. From Slashdot.org wishing you well. marc ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Angles On Anonymous.
Hi Marc Thank for your remarks We are amidst the demolishing of the results of 20 years of class strugle I - speaking for myself - feel lost Lost in possibilities in gaining a life in this society, lost in this hellish world where the most brute and intellectual incapable rules Its like the 30s when artists, intellectuals were prey to the machinations of the ruling class And yes indeed the 'art' world is feeding its egocentric lifestyle at the costs of common human capital, a trend started with the rise of Andy Warhol and the distgusting 'pop' artists When during the last 30 years, capital got tightly connected with 'art', art ceased to exsist, that's the state we're currently in. Let's face it Richard Florida ideas together with the overvalued works of Marshall McLuhan harmed society more than it gained from it Not surprisingly both exponents of the new american class of neolibs wanna bee intellectuals These ideas are constantly pushed and used in governemental and corporate neolib think tanks across the world Art without esthetics or moral is not art it is just advertizing Tonite I will play What did you learned at school today, little boy of mine, by Pete Seeger Radio Patapoe free radio from Amsterdam The Netherlands 16:30 to 19:30 CEST http://icecast.freeteam.nl/patapoe.m3u Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 11 Dec 2010, at 13:28, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Andreas, Subversion is not a political attitude, it is a way of life... Being a decent human being is considered either negative or a criminal activity in itself. I have not noticed many art groups in the UK other than ourselves and Mute, discussing all these issues as openly. Across the sea, Rhizome.org in America is 'silent' regarding the wikileaks or student cuts around the world - I would of hoped the individuals who run the platform would be brave enough to activate some kind of dialogue around it. And I suppose, what it tells me is that, they do not care enough to push these things into the public for mutual dialogue. Yes, I know it may threaten funding, but we have the same problems here. Next week live on Resonance fm, our last broadcast this year - we are holding a minute silence 'live' on the radio to mourn the death of education. All this stuff threatens the existence of furtherfield and the space we have in London plus many projects we are involved in, most of them socially engaged - and that's what the government wants to happen. And all those peer 'art' groups who do not openly challenge the powers that be will be invested in, such as those similar to Rhizome.org because they tow the line - and lets not forget that this is not just a national issue, it is an international, neoliberlist attack on humanities. And I will not 'ever' forgive those who have so conveniently kept silent, when as others have at least tried to make real changes in culture; deeper than promoting top-down artists and institutional drone-art, and product and technologically determined (so called) art, conveyor belt products. Techno-bling is boring, boring, boring, and shallow. We have already been warned to stop discussing the current crisis regarding cuts and the neoliberlaist situation with our own community, by friends who are well connected to others in power, who are watching us - and it really feels strange and distressing to know that by openly discussing this with you and others, that I may be risking the future of our independent, creative and brilliant individuals and groups who are part our networked communities... wishing you well. marc Shame on our justice systems and the prosecution of our idealistic motivated youth, which are threatened all over the world by the fillistines called judges More examples of injustice in our so called democracies: Hungary: Asisstence given by child birth at home, imprisoned until at least January 2011 Source : chtodelat Us Chigaco Three young women accused of travelling to Palestine put on trial by the FBI Source: hufftington post And so it goes on and on and on What is there to stop falling in a cynical state of mind and a profound sadness about the failure of the human project? How to survive in a bitter and cold world without shared ethical and moral principles ? I am deeply depressed by the current situation and can hardly believe it will be better during my lifetime Liberators turn out to be ursurpators in the very end Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 11 Dec 2010, at 11:24, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Angles On Anonymous. A number of readers are sending in links related to Anonymous, the Internet phenomenon — don't call them a group — behind the controversial DDoS attacks on commercial entities that fail to
[NetBehaviour] Fwd: nettime-ann Bibliotheca Philosophica Hermetica in Danger
Dear reader, please forward this request for the petition Express your protest against the dissolution of the Bibliotheca Philosophica Hermetica (Ritman Library) http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/ritmanlibrary/ http://www.ritmanlibrary.nl/ IS A UNIQUE LIBRARY IN THE WORLD !!! Express your protest against the dissolution of the Bibliotheca Philosophica Hermetica (Ritman Library) It is widely known that the Bibliotheca Philosophica Hermetica in Amsterdam, founded by J.R. Ritman, was in great danger in the 1990s, when the ING bank took possession of the collection and threatened to sell it. Fortunately, the Dutch government intervened: the BPH was put on the list of protected Dutch heritage, and the State eventually acquired over 40% of it. The books remained at the same physical location, integrated with the rest of the collection, and the government would eventually acquire all of it. As part of this process, there were great plans for further expansion. Largely due to the financial crisis and a change of government this was taking somewhat longer than originally anticipated, but nobody doubted that the library was safe. Last week this turned out to be incorrect. An extremely valuable medieval manuscript owned by the BPH (The Grail of Rochefoucauld) was put on sale at Sotheby’s, and this triggered a reaction from the Friesland Bank, which took possession of the library, that had appa rently been brought in as collateral, in order to get back a 15 mill ion euro loan from mr Ritman. At present the BPH is closed, and inte nse negotiations are going on behind closed doors. It is impossible at this moment to predict the outcome, but there is no doubt that th e situation is extremely serious. There is a very real possibility t hat the Friesland bank will try to sell at least the ca. 60% of the library that is still owned by mr Ritman, and nobody knows what impl ications this will have for the rest of the collection and the BPH a s a whole, including its staff. The brand-new government of the Neth erlands has announced a program of radical financial cuts in the cul ture section and elsewhere, which makes a renewed intervention from that side highly unlikely. If the Ritman library would go down, this would mean an enormous blow to international scholarship in hermetic studies. The damage would be irreversible. By signing this petition you express your concern, and ask the Dutch government and the Friesland bank to do their utmost to ensure that the collection will be saved and will remain available for the international scholarly community. Additionally, you can express your concern by means of a signed letter. The initiative for this petition comes from the Center for History of Hermetic Philosophy and related currents at the University of Amsterdam (organizationally independent of the BPH, and not in any danger itself), so please send your letter to its director: Prof. Wouter J. Hanegraaff, Oude Turfmarkt 141-147, 1012 GC Amsterdam, The Netherlands. ___ nettime-ann mailing list nettime-...@nettime.org http://www.nettime.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/nettime-ann ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Live Now! La Resocialiste Edicion International
http://icecast.freeteam.nl/patapoe.m3u Spoken Dub Manifesto Paris ,France Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] stress test NOW
FYI NOT working from iphone Will check laptop later Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 17 Nov 2010, at 10:55, helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com wrote: hi all, if you have time, please click on this link now leave it open for about half an hour: http://www.creative-catalyst.com/make-shift/makeshift.html let us know whether you are getting everything - 2 audiovisual streams on the left, the UpStage interface on the right. we have 8 audience in there already, we are hoping to get at least as many as we had on monday (38) thanks very much for your help! h : ) helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.avatarbodycollision.org http://www.upstage.org.nz ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: La Resocialiste - Edition International
Yelling at deaf people trying to lip read is impolite, I certainly agree Relating artistic endeavours with the social behaviour and the more general problematic political system of minorities on the other hand is beyond my comprehension Andreas Maria Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 13 Nov 2010, at 18:12, martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com wrote: no different from yelling at people who are deaf but trying to lip read. martin On 13 Nov 2010, at 15:13, De wraak van Baltassar Geraards wrote: As for Andreas sounds like elitist bollocks. I presume you ment my post? Bit of a narrow-sighted opinion, or should I say a dyslectic opinion? Andreas Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl Begin forwarded message: From: martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com Date: 13 November 2010 15:31:47 CET To: ajaco c/o bid aj...@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: La Resocialiste - Edition International Interesting full on eyeball visuals, different to simply reading emails. As for Andreas sounds like elitist bollocks. martin On 13 Nov 2010, at 13:17, ajaco c/o bid wrote: Hi Martin et al. What do you think of the accesibility of the following (art) website: http://burgerwaanzin.nl La Resocialiste Edition International ? I purposely disrupt the readability of the constituent texts as part of the artistic process. I do not think that is riduculous or insulting for visible impaired persons. Or should I not do that, considering the possibility that a visible impaired has a look. So I put a textbox in braille!! Not for the visible impaired! Would that ease your mind? Andreas Has anyone thought of the visual consequences for visually impaired people, blue type on such a yellow background is very difficult for me to read, daft as the previous grey background. Think of of disability web standards they do exist, for an artists/creatives email site to display such behaviour is ridiculous, please have plain white background with black type. martin... On 13 Nov 2010, at 12:39, marc garrett wrote: Hi Fung-Lin, Much Thanks... Here's the original link http://tinyurl.com/24zqlu8 marc R.I.P Henryk Gorecki http://www.mutanteggplant.com/vitro-nasu/2010/11/12/r-i-p-henryk-gorecki/ F.L. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] mmmmm
You are right! Sorry for the missing link: Neodllism : new ways of windows hacking Neosoism ( soi?) software or insult? Neolaism ( lai?) library as information? Andreas Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 14 Nov 2010, at 13:52, James Morris jwm.art@gmail.com wrote: Neodllism is surely windows related, perhaps you meant Neosoism or Neolaism? ;-) On 14 November 2010 12:30, Andreas Maria aj...@xs4all.nl wrote: Fractal life forms functioning as pointers towards vaste amounts of garbage collected waste, barely capable of keeping track of the loose ends, resulting in an apocalyptic 'out of memory' error. Neolibidonism: new ways to have sex 1 Neolibertarism: new ways to have sex 2 Neolibertairism: new ways to have sex 3 Neolibiadonism: new ways to love yourself Neoabondonism: new ways to escape yourself Neodllism: new ways of unix hacking 1 Neolibisme: new ways of unix hacking 2 Neolibrarism: new ways of reading Neolibraryism: new ways of reading a book in a library Neolibelism: new ways of sueing another Neolubricanism: new ways of smoothening Neoliposuctionism: new ways of cosmetic modifications To be put in self-referential cultural-political social frameworks, adorned with highly intellectual conceptualizing remarks and to be exposed in public places to provoke discussions of which the outcomes are already settled: We lost! Andreas Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 18 Oct 2010, at 12:44, James Morris jwm.art@gmail.com wrote: plah plah plah plah plah plah ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: La Resocialiste - Edition International
#wb10 - Web Biennial 10 - A. Andreas, The Brahamian Intelligence ... 20 feb 2008 … LA RESOCIALISTE … Paris, 1970 Le phénomène de la folie ne peut être séparé du problème du langage, d'un langage … Andreas Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl On 14 Nov 2010, at 16:48, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org wrote: H, language IS important but testy semantic wrangling is really unproductive- it can cause otherwise open people to withdraw. I propose good nature, patience and imagination as a strategy for working with difference. : ) Utopian Ruth -Original Message- From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org Reply-to: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Fwd: La Resocialiste - Edition International Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 14:46:59 + On 11/14/2010 01:38 PM, martin mitchell wrote: minorities = discrimination Such old fashioned language! What's a fashionable way of referring to the subset(s) of society in question? - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fwd: La Resocialiste - Edition International
As for Andreas sounds like elitist bollocks. I presume you ment my post? Bit of a narrow-sighted opinion, or should I say a dyslectic opinion? Andreas Jacobs w: http://www.nictoglobe.com w: http://burgerwaanzin.nl Begin forwarded message: From: martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com Date: 13 November 2010 15:31:47 CET To: ajaco c/o bid aj...@xs4all.nl Subject: Re: La Resocialiste - Edition International Interesting full on eyeball visuals, different to simply reading emails. As for Andreas sounds like elitist bollocks. martin On 13 Nov 2010, at 13:17, ajaco c/o bid wrote: Hi Martin et al. What do you think of the accesibility of the following (art)website: http://burgerwaanzin.nl La Resocialiste Edition International ? I purposely disrupt the readability of the constituent texts as part of the artistic process. I do not think that is riduculous or insulting for visible impaired persons. Or should I not do that, considering the possibility that a visible impaired has a look. So I put a textbox in braille!! Not for the visible impaired! Would that ease your mind? Andreas Has anyone thought of the visual consequences for visually impaired people, blue type on such a yellow background is very difficult for me to read, daft as the previous grey background. Think of of disability web standards they do exist, for an artists/creatives email site to display such behaviour is ridiculous, please have plain white background with black type. martin... On 13 Nov 2010, at 12:39, marc garrett wrote: Hi Fung-Lin, Much Thanks... Here's the original link http://tinyurl.com/24zqlu8 marc R.I.P Henryk Gorecki http://www.mutanteggplant.com/vitro-nasu/2010/11/12/r-i-p-henryk-gorecki/ F.L. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
