[NetBehaviour] As Can Be OST
Hello again, Netbehavior! I've just released an original soundtrack https://bmaygibson.bandcamp.com/ for my documentary, *As Can Be*. It is free streaming and is also available for purchase. Proceeds go towards 8mm processing and development costs. A trailer for the film is here http://www.bmaygibson.com/filmm/. Hey, thanks! B ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] don trust -- tron dust
Many thanks to you Mez and Michael for you kind words and time! On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 5:55 AM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.comwrote: I really recommend this. Brian was kind enough to send me a preview copy and I hoped to be able to write something about it but life and the start of the new academic year caught up with me. I feel bad because it is a really great piece of work. Anyone who has seen any of Brian's video work will immediately recognise here too the union of poetry - heady, strange, sensual - and discipline (and I mean the kind of discipline that is the pre-requisite of elegance, not discipline as some abstract moral quality) that characterises that work. There's a third factor, too, and for me it's a key measure or indicator or whether something detains me personally - all Brian's work is deeply human and humane. There's warmth and quirk and playfulness and sadness and tragedy and near despair, too - one feels addressed all the while by a companion human consciousness, a fellow sensibility - in some ways mysterious, and ineluctably other, in others so familiar as to feel a continuation of our own being. I'm too old to know whether one can dance to any of it but it certainly chugs along in the most contagious of ways. So, Brian, sorry this is belated; everyone else - give it a listen. cheers michael -- *From:* brian gibson baiow...@gmail.com *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2012 12:47 AM *Subject:* [NetBehaviour] don trust -- tron dust Hello all, I've just released a new collection of sample based sounds under my digital freeloading alias Don Trust. It is out on the free net label wombnet http://wombnet.blogspot.com/. A review and free download can be found herehttp://wombnet.blogspot.com/2012/10/don-trust-tron-dust.html . Or you can stream it here http://dontrust.bandcamp.com/album/tron-dust. I'm Brian Gibson. Send me 31,000 dollars. Thank you. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- instantconductors.com glimpsecontrol.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] don trust -- tron dust
Hello all, I've just released a new collection of sample based sounds under my digital freeloading alias Don Trust. It is out on the free net label wombnethttp://wombnet.blogspot.com/ . A review and free download can be found herehttp://wombnet.blogspot.com/2012/10/don-trust-tron-dust.html . Or you can stream it here http://dontrust.bandcamp.com/album/tron-dust. I'm Brian Gibson. Send me 31,000 dollars. Thank you. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] aint, lamb pants, etc
Hey thanks, Simon! On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:29 AM, Simon Mclennan mitjafash...@hotmail.comwrote: This is great! germolene all round Simon On 22 May 2012, at 02:00, brian gibson wrote: I now feel somehow reactivated. Thanks James, mez, Mark. Recently and out of the blue I was asked to do a 20 minute Don Trust set for Peter Nelson's show Eclectic Music For Mind And Bodhi. It has been airing this month on Dandelion Radio. aint don http://glimpsecontrol.com/dontrust/aint%20don%20(dandelion).mp3((mp3)) aint donhttp://glimpsecontrol.com/dontrust/aint%20don%20(dandelion).mp3.zip((zip)) root beers, bd ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] g[s]li[p]b
but blue blood lamb for who? On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 7:50 PM, mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com wrote: ...steers + bloody R[l]a[r]m[b]s, all chewed. On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:40 AM, ppl wrote: seer is rush ham's hue, not fortune ...i'm knot able enuff 4 the [s]lip of u? I'm not lick-able enough for the knot of ewe ...i'm not likeable enough 4 the se[a]riousness of u? i'm not serious enough for the likes of you. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- instantconductors.com/albums glimpsecontrol.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] aint, lamb pants, etc
I now feel somehow reactivated. Thanks James, mez, Mark. Recently and out of the blue I was asked to do a 20 minute Don Trust set for Peter Nelson's show Eclectic Music For Mind And Bodhi. It has been airing this month on Dandelion Radio. aint don http://glimpsecontrol.com/dontrust/aint%20don%20(dandelion).mp3((mp3)) aint donhttp://glimpsecontrol.com/dontrust/aint%20don%20(dandelion).mp3.zip((zip)) root beers, bd ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] g[s]li[p]b
not did then do done rue On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:03 PM, mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 10:54 AM, various collaborators wrote: i'm not serious enough for the likes of you. ...i'm not likeable enough 4 the se[a]riousness of u. I'm not lick-able enough for the knot of ewe. ...i'm knot able enuff 4 the [s]lip of u? seer is rush ham's hue, not fortune ...steers + bloody R[l]a[r]m[b]s, all chewed. but blue blood lamb for who? for all but those who do ...+ can, + c, + mew[l]. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] g[s]li[p]b
._ © pee yew On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:49 PM, mez breeze netwur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 9:03 PM, various collaborators wrote: i'm not serious enough for the likes of you. ...i'm not likeable enough 4 the se[a]riousness of u. I'm not lick-able enough for the knot of ewe. ...i'm knot able enuff 4 the [s]lip of u? seer is rush ham's hue, not fortune ...steers + bloody R[l]a[r]m[b]s, all chewed. but blue blood lamb for who? for all but those who do ...+ can, + c, + mew[l]. not did then do done rue [we stink of goldblood hue]. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Loud trash
In time helmet trash king wings gone new day morning light pet sing hammer stance everybody did you see have you been? Last week on bridge arrested 9 years old stop that kid police state future jeopardize chance know mean but respond do (periphery not) crashed leave roll right. Waiting. Wrong. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] trad ukulele playing @ ground zero
swept away, alan. thanks. brian On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: trad ukulele playing @ ground zero http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/traduke1.mp3 barely listenable, http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/traduke2.mp3 this will make you dizzy and uncomfortable, trad ukulele playing @ ground zero ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] what happens when
all these plus naked probably tell you i haven't updated yet all act like know but truth oblivious broke english teach broke keep learned it school days gone now onto past expression memory minds collectives and groups and dancers and old and it aint not news on democracy then market share harry and all kinds of dougs and erics and franks and dougs and erins and franks got sound though ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Brooklyn Experimental Music Festival
Hello Netbehaviourists, All this neighbor talk has me thinking (i think...) I will be playing a show as Instant Conductors on Saturday May 7th at the large and lofty loft in which I reside (well at least for now -- we've got the boot). Below are the words a fellow collaborator wrote about the event. Perhaps you'll come! Cheers, Brian +X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+X+ After a decade of hosting shows and events, the Newsonic Loft is coming to a close this spring. It all started back in 2001 with a series of rooftop bbqs and experimental music shows, so to celebrate the end of the space, I've put together a day-long celebration of experimental and improvised musics. It all begins with a free rooftop bbq followed by 14 acts of some of Brooklyn's finest experimental musicians, a lighting instal...lation by White Light Prism, and a late night after party. It's going to be a special event, don't miss out! Spread the word, bring your friends Brooklyn Experimental Music Festival Saturday May 7 Doors at 5pm Newsonic, 76 Rutledge St., Brooklyn, New York Free before 8pm, $10 after 8 5pm - Free Rooftop BBQ 7pm - Brooklyn Raga Association 7:45 - Brandon Evans solo 8:00 - Che Chen Robbie Lee 8:30 - Philip Gayle 8:45 - Kevin Uehlinger's Alchemusic 9:15 - Instant Conductors 9:45 - Silver Ash 10:15 - Long Distance Posion 10:45 - Jackson Moore Trio 11:15 - Foxglove 11:45 - Mike Pride Bass Trio 12:15 - Brian Chase, Seth Misterka, and Matthew Welch 1:00 - Talibam! + Brooklyn Raga Association - http://brooklynragaassociation.bandcamp.com/ Combining traditional Indian Instruments with electronics and psychedelic jamming, the Brooklyn Raga Association explores an otherworldly ground between East and West, Raga and Psych-Rock. Brandon Evans, Solo - http://www.allmusic.com/artist/brandon-evans-p411349 Multi-Instrumentalist Brandon Evans, a protege of Sonny Simmons and Anthony Braxton returns to the scene for his first live performance in several years. Che Chen and Robbie Lee - http://www.myspace.com/telegraphharp Che Chen Robbie Lee are Brooklyn based multi-instrumentalists who have been steadily and intensively developing their unique approach to free improvisation over the last several years. Using a shifting constellation of instruments that has included bass clarinets, baroque recorders, reed and pipe organs, renaissance keyboard instruments, flutes, saxophones, bowed and plucked strings, little drums, bells, tape machines and their voices, Che Chen and Robbie Lee create earthy, slow moving improvisations that are informed as much by the ethnic folk traditions of the world as they are by 20th century composition and improvisation. Philip Gayle - http://www.philipgayle.com/ Philip Gayle has slowly been churning ears with his truly singular take on acoustic improvising for the past ten years. New York City-via-Houston based, he has avoided much notice from wide ranging auidences despite his string of releases and critical praise. Dean Roberts lauded in Opprobrium that Gayle's playing on his '97 debut Keguribap is wildly individualistic ... this makes a lot of [his] contemporaries/predecessors seem overrated in the eternal search for expansion on the instrument. Gayle seems to talk with trees, moving wind and desert elements with hollowed bodies, wooden fret boards and steel strings. Assorted percussion, gongs and toys also fliter in. Kevin Uehlinger's Alchemusic - www.myspace.com/ku3 Pianist, composer and astrologer Kevin Uehlinger returns to Newsonic with his Alchemusic compositions, derived from principles of molecular biology and the I Ching. Kevin is another veteran of the Middletown scene of the late 90s. He has recorded with Anthony Braxton and performed with Wadada Leo Smith, Jessica Pavone, and Harris Eisenstadt, among others. Tonight he brings a rhythm section comprised of drummer Adam Kriney (La Otracina, Brooklyn Raga Association) guitarist Alex Kennedy-Grant (Madame Robot, Humboldt Fog) and bassist Taylor Bergren-Chrisman together with a classic Middletown-circa-1996 horn section of Jackson Moore, John Speck, Seth Misterka, and Brandon Evans with some other surprise guests - and sounds - possible as well. Instant Conductors - www.instantconductors.com/ Instant Conductors is a patch-work of video's collected and collaged, slowed or sped in rotation with live instrument additives, projected and displayed on four television screens. Silver Ash - http://www.generaterecords.net/C3R013.htm Silver Ash is a collaborative effort between percussionist Jeff Arnal, guitarist Aaron Dugan (x-Matisyahu), and electronics guru Casey Block. They are releasing a new 7 this spring on Generate Records. Long Distance Poison - http://soundcloud.com/longdistancepoison Long Distance Poison is a Brooklyn based void drone band. LDP can be located someplace in the analog wilderness amidst the likes of early Tangerine Dream, Kluster, John Carpenter and Terry Riley. Erica Bradbury, Casey Block, and Nathan Cearley use old Moogs, Arps,
Re: [NetBehaviour] Three Crying-Out Songs for John Fahey
beautiful and just right, alan. with thanks, brian On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Three Crying-Out Songs for John Fahey http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/cryingout1.mp3 http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/cryingout2.mp3 http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/cryingout3.mp3 solo electric oud, voice ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Cariou vs. Prince: THE COPYRIGHT BUNGLE
money seems the issue. and a call for respect. regardless of how much a piece is altered it's existence is impossible without the original. to profit off the back of another artist is disgusting. fight for rights, but forget not morals. and either way no law will stop a real artist from creating whatever she/he wants. brian On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 1:55 PM, dave miller dave.miller...@gmail.comwrote: But as artists what should concern us is that it is a decision regarding art that significantly reduces what it is possible to do in art. I totally agree Rob, this is important - copyright law should not stop artists from being free to transform source material into something original and new. dave On 1 April 2011 18:31, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 01/04/11 17:29, Catherine Daly wrote: It is actually pretty consistent with recent decisions in music and literature re: copyright. It may or may not be consistent with recent bad decisions in literature and music that have misguidedly reduced the scope of free expression in the name of enforcing commercial interests. But as artists what should concern us is that it is a decision regarding art that significantly reduces what it is possible to do in art. Plus, he's appropriated 40 entire images and superimposed on them. He hasn't altered the base image of the one picture I saw. Except by collaging it and painting on or around it to produce a noticeably new combined image. Reports of the case have been very careful to show only the most similar (parts of) images. And yet I doubt anyone would lose money if asked to bet on which was the original and which was the adaptation even for those. It seems part of his intent was to reduce the marketability of the original images (not of the small pieces of other images). But his greater profit than the maker of the base images is very much on point. Well, no, as literature and music cases show. You don't have to be making more money than the rightsholder for their loss of revenue or your profit motive to be a factor in the four step test. But, is this fair use because it is parody? No. It is fair use because it is transformative. It changes the appearance and tone of the source material into something original and new. Which part of destroy the art are people not getting? - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- instantconductors.com glimpsecontrol.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Cariou vs. Prince: THE COPYRIGHT BUNGLE
Theoriginal is a pastiche of documentary styles produced without compensating its models. this is the nature of all! surely you understand the difference between inspiration and blatant theft? the line may be blurry, but to pretend there is no line at all... to profit off the back of another artist is disgusting. That means that schools, genres, and media are disgusting. well... genres and media* are* disgusting. but yes, students should be encouraged to experiment and take direction from/with materials provided/found in their studies. i view this repurposing of other's work as a way to practice, not as a way to make a living. But this law can suppress anything you create if it fails an arbitrary test of originality. perhaps suppress your ability to make money from said creation. i've made several videos and albums created entirely from sampled material. haven't sold a lick. haven't heard from any lawyers or government. at this point it seems the creation is not what is illegal. it's what you do with that creation. respecting your adamance, brian On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 04/01/2011 07:21 PM, brian gibson wrote: money seems the issue. and a call for respect. regardless of how much a piece is altered Theoriginal is a pastiche of documentary styles produced without compensating its models. If documentary photography had the same standards applied to it that we are being asked to apply to art, it would be declared illegal and immoral. it's existence is impossible without the original. This is true of all representational art, however transformative. to profit off the back of another artist is disgusting. That means that schools, genres, and media are disgusting. fight for rights, but forget not morals. and either way no law will stop a real artist from creating whatever she/he wants. But this law can suppress anything you create if it fails an arbitrary test of originality. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- instantconductors.com glimpsecontrol.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Cariou vs. Prince: THE COPYRIGHT BUNGLE
Even when artists have not appropriated they have always stood on the shoulders of others, for techniques, for subject matter, for an appraoch to that subject matter, for materials, for everything i suppose i owe you and Doron royalties then, Michael ;) On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com wrote: And in a reductio ad absurdum the argument could be applied to *any* kind of representation, by whatever means, of *anything* where someone feels they have some intellectual property rights. Even when artists have not appropriated they have always stood on the shoulders of others, for techniques, for subject matter, for an appraoch to that subject matter, for materials, for everything. Human beings are irredeemably social in all they do and art is no exception. michael --- On Fri, 4/1/11, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: From: Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Cariou vs. Prince: THE COPYRIGHT BUNGLE To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Friday, April 1, 2011, 11:27 PM On 01/04/11 21:51, bob catchpole wrote: Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Yes. [...]early in the history of photography, there was a series of judicial decisions that could well have changed the course of photography substantially. Courts were asked whether the photographer, amateur or professional, required permission before he could capture and print whatever image he wanted. Their answer was no.[^31] The arguments in favor of requiring permission will sound surprisingly familiar. The photographer was taking something from the person or building whose photograph he shot - pirating something of value.[...] http://www.jus.uio.no/sisu/free_culture.lawrence_lessig/plain.txt - Rob. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] What One Can Find
Hello Martha, Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention. Unfortunately, I can find no reason for these problems. I've tested this movie, and others on the site with three computers and get smooth playback on all. The file for 'What One Can Find' is 93.1MB... perhaps this is the issue? I've uploaded a smaller version herehttp://glimpsecontrol.com/!nstant/what_one_can_find_SMALL.mov . It's a bit blocky in moments, but sometimes it's even more fun that way. I appreciate your interest and hope you'll be able to view it ! Thanks again, Brian On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Martha Deed mld...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Brian-- This looked like something I would like to view. But it crashed my Quicktime plugin 3 times. I tried loading something else from glimpsecontrol.com, and the same thing happened. Tried loading a QuickTime from a different site -- something I hadn't seen before, so not cached -- and that worked. So -- something with your website? What is the size of the file? Could that be it? Anyhow, the splashpage is very inviting. . . Thanks for posting this. All best, Martha The Lost Shoehttp://www.chapbookpublisher.com/shop.html The Lost Shoe videohttp://www.sporkworld.org/Deed/lostshoe.mov this is visual poetry by Millie Niss (27 March 2010 release) this is visual poetry by Martha Deed (24 August 2010 release)http://thisisvisualpoetry.com Heat and 500 Favourite Words (Released July 2010)http://chapbookpublisher.com/tiny-shop.html On 2/13/2011 11:50 PM, brian gibson wrote: [image: what one can find] http://glimpsecontrol.com/%21nstant/what_one_can_find.mov*what one can find* (click image to play quicktime)http://glimpsecontrol.com/%21nstant/what_one_can_find.mov In late December, in motion with company. The sun and snow and birds and Hands. ___ NetBehaviour mailing listNetBehaviour@netbehaviour.orghttp://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] What One Can Find
Thanks, Martha ! And your Snow Haiku is breathtaking, really. The fragmented flight and deer and perching birds slow fading into snow unknown. . . (( for those who have not yet seen :: http://dvblog.org/?p=7652 )) Stay warm, Brian On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Martha Deed mld...@verizon.net wrote: Dear Brian-- Probably was the file size. Thanks so much for going to the trouble of uploading a smaller version. . . Well, I was right. I am very susceptible to the charms of road videos -- and yours is great. Love the transitions, the cell phone tower. And the city scenes? Could be Minneapolis or Chicago or Cleveland or Buffalo -- or many other places. You have also done something with sky that is far from cliche. Or Providence, Rhode Island. Yep. Recognize some streets. Just couldn't remember which city I was in when I saw them. . . Sorry not to be more constructive in my critique. . . All best, Martha The Lost Shoehttp://www.chapbookpublisher.com/shop.html The Lost Shoe videohttp://www.sporkworld.org/Deed/lostshoe.mov this is visual poetry by Millie Niss (27 March 2010 release) this is visual poetry by Martha Deed (24 August 2010 release)http://thisisvisualpoetry.com Heat and 500 Favourite Words (Released July 2010)http://chapbookpublisher.com/tiny-shop.html On 2/14/2011 11:19 AM, brian gibson wrote: Hello Martha, Thanks a lot for bringing this to my attention. Unfortunately, I can find no reason for these problems. I've tested this movie, and others on the site with three computers and get smooth playback on all. The file for 'What One Can Find' is 93.1MB... perhaps this is the issue? I've uploaded a smaller version herehttp://glimpsecontrol.com/%21nstant/what_one_can_find_SMALL.mov . It's a bit blocky in moments, but sometimes it's even more fun that way. I appreciate your interest and hope you'll be able to view it ! Thanks again, Brian On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Martha Deed mld...@verizon.net wrote: Hi Brian-- This looked like something I would like to view. But it crashed my Quicktime plugin 3 times. I tried loading something else from glimpsecontrol.com, and the same thing happened. Tried loading a QuickTime from a different site -- something I hadn't seen before, so not cached -- and that worked. So -- something with your website? What is the size of the file? Could that be it? Anyhow, the splashpage is very inviting. . . Thanks for posting this. All best, Martha The Lost Shoehttp://www.chapbookpublisher.com/shop.html The Lost Shoe videohttp://www.sporkworld.org/Deed/lostshoe.mov this is visual poetry by Millie Niss (27 March 2010 release) this is visual poetry by Martha Deed (24 August 2010 release)http://thisisvisualpoetry.com Heat and 500 Favourite Words (Released July 2010)http://chapbookpublisher.com/tiny-shop.html On 2/13/2011 11:50 PM, brian gibson wrote: [image: what one can find] http://glimpsecontrol.com/%21nstant/what_one_can_find.mov*what one can find* (click image to play quicktime)http://glimpsecontrol.com/%21nstant/what_one_can_find.mov In late December, in motion with company. The sun and snow and birds and Hands. ___ NetBehaviour mailing listNetBehaviour@netbehaviour.orghttp://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing listNetBehaviour@netbehaviour.orghttp://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- instantconductors.com glimpsecontrol.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] What One Can Find
[image: what one can find] http://glimpsecontrol.com/!nstant/what_one_can_find.mov*what one can find* (click image to play quicktime)http://glimpsecontrol.com/!nstant/what_one_can_find.mov In late December, in motion with company. The sun and snow and birds and Hands. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] elaborate toy
[image: elaborate toy] http://glimpsecontrol.com/baio/elaborate_toy.mov*elaborate toy* (click image to play quicktime) http://glimpsecontrol.com/baio/elaborate_toy.mov my grandmother videos me fumbling with her uncle’s accordion while the wind plays the chimes on her front porch. alongside sounds of my mother’s piano on christmas day. from the recently revamped instantconductors.com best to you and yours, brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] From today...
nothing to add except my thanks for having the discussion in front of us. brian On Thu, Oct 14, 2010 at 6:04 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Think we're pretty much in agreement here! Thanks for the discussion, Alan On Thu, 14 Oct 2010, Curt Cloninger wrote: The best art teaching I've seen (and hopefully articipated in) was Lutz Presser's in Tasmania, and David Askevold's at Nova Scotia; in both cases, they/we assumed the students were already artists/agents, and treated them as such. So making art became a cooperative effort - sharing techniques when needed, but not imposing anything. And believe it or not, everyone rose to the occasion. It's as if nothing was taught at all but everything was learned. It was astonishing. This sits well with me as a pedagogical practice. It makes me think of Ranciere's Ignorant Schoolmaster. If I am the teacher/explicator with the correct answer, then in order to liberate my students with my wisdom and knowledge, I first have to convince them that they aren't yet liberated. This is a form of oppression masquarading as emancipation. As the situationists say, Don't liberate me. I'll take care of that. I, as the teacher, don't arbitrate/decide what matters. But the student still must decide this for herself. That is her own pragmatic question as a practicing artist. Because she has been thrown into the world with a body that can act on things and with a limited amount of time to live. She is the steward of this body and time. So the art work she makes must at least matter to her; otherwise she would spend her time, money, and bodily energy on some other activity she deemed more worthy. What kind of pedagogy best comes alongside my student and helps her discover what matters to her? That becomes my own pragmatic question as a practicing teacher. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] as the wind
goog_1724065489 as_the_wind.mov http://glimpsecontrol.com/baio/as_the_wind.mov ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] three new york films
only inauthentic appreciation the danger ... mutual appreciation is but the key ! On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 12:19 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.comwrote: Thanks Dave, I'm really glad you like them. Aware of the danger of this turning into a mutual appreciation society but the Rooney cartoon made me laugh a lot! warmest michael --- On Tue, 9/7/10, dave miller dave.miller...@gmail.com wrote: From: dave miller dave.miller...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] three new york films To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Tuesday, September 7, 2010, 4:48 PM hi michael These are great - and really interesting that your using StreetView to get pictures of places. Such a great idea. I also followed through one of your links - to http://www.intelligentagent.com - I like what you say about Artists Statements - they're like applying corporate conventions to artists. I've used them myself, but never get it right - what you say is true - that an artist is least equipped to tell us what their work is about. The comments you and Ruth have made on my work in the past has been really helpful and revealing to me - helping me realise things I never saw in my work. cheers, dave On 7 September 2010 10:29, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com wrote: http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/vlog/ScenesOfProvincialLife.cgi/2010/09 never been there, but what a stretch of my imagination it colonises! cheers michael ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- -- Art Portfolio: http://davemiller.org Art Blog: http://davemiller.org/art_blog Illustrations: http://davemiller.org/illustrations/ Prints for sale: http://www.etsy.com/shop/visualstories Etsy Blog: http://etsy-visualstories.blogspot.com/ -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] found these words from a forgotten night
so when it starts iron cast and rank but gone like the rest into now bloom boom dead soon but humid air rise saw children all around old sounds born new arm rest chancellor laugh contact both eyes finale might be worth something. remember a thing or two but most not. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Deep Language, by Alan Sondheim, Salt Publishing, 2010
nice! and congratulations on the print, etc.. ...will huddle in a maddening corner... am in need of a copy. once the pay check's in.. beautiful cover too. you on design? brian On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Deep Language, by Alan Sondheim, Salt Publishing, 2010 Salt Publishing has just brought out my Deep Language; the URL is http://www.saltpublishing.com/books/smp/9781844718030.htm Please consider ordering this; it's inexpensive, and helps support Salt. If you don't want the book, please check out the publisher's other listings - Salt is one of the few independent companies who are not publish-on-demand; their books are found in bookstores, there are review copies, and so forth. They really need your support; they have a number of wonderful writers, and their paperbacks are high quality. Salt is at http://www.saltpublishing.com/ and they are very cool. Deep Language, Alan Sondheim EAN13: 9781844718030 ISBN: 9781844718030 Author: Alan Sondheim Title: Deep Language Series: Salt Modern Poets Audience: General/trade Publisher: Salt Publishing Pub date: 30-Jul-10 Extent: 260pp Height: 246 mm Width: 189 mm Thickness: 15 mm Weight: 390 gms Supplier: Gardners Books Supplier: Ingram Book Group Supplier: Inbooks (James Bennett) Availability: NP Price: GBP 12.99 Price: USD 16.95 Rights: World PAPERBACK / SOFTBACK 20% off at the UK Bookstore! 12.99 10.39 20% off at the US Bookstore! $16.95 $13.56 Short description/annotation: A series of short texts or poems that revel in structured and unstructured language, with all the gaps and excitement that happens when language is stressed to the limit. Main description: In Sondheim.s Deep Language, writing detours through digital and other media, returning with new forms and genres, new ways of thinking philosophy, the body, religion, and everything else. This is a series of poems that revel in structured and unstructured language, with all the gaps and excitement that happens when language is stressed to the limit. These pieces cohere, interrelate, interpenetrate; they develop the concept of deep language in any number of fascinating ways, ranging from intuitive writing to the use of scripts, code, and programming to elucidate hidden meanings . where none may have existed before. Excerpt from book: bunnies the bunnies made strange calls, odd calls, gruntings, not the thumpings but the gruntings - ..I say. .there is a chair.. . Wittgenstein in translation . right over the other lupus. ears, just like that! .-:anyway the rabbits did this five or six times in a row and it seemed fairlyclear they were playing and right in front of us in the middle of the night. Honestly, you should have seen them! I never saw such a thing! I never knew rabbits could do such a thing! .Do not try to analyse your own inner experience.. - Wittgenstein in translation -:i pucker my lips constantly in the absence of the shakuhachi. i know its murmuring burbling abbling brook. now i.m at a loss, having transformed bAbbling into something else entirely . in any case, when i die, these three instruments will huddle in a maddening corner, bubbling with mournful murmuring cries . .Not it.s looking like him.. - Wittgenstein in translation . ]]] here is a space. the one rabbit runs straight at the other and the other rabbit jumps vertically at the very last moment over the first rabbit and landf in the same spot.that.s .lands.. ..:: Write through my the bunnies made strange calls, odd calls, gruntings, not the thumpings but the gruntings . ..I say. .there is a chair.. - Wittgenstein in translation . right over the other lupus. ears, just like that! .-! Unpublished endorsement: Alan Sondheim writes. In fear of death . literal fear, real fear, symbolic fear . he uses anything and everything at his disposal to make and unmake himself and all of us as statements, words, part-words, characters. Alan Sondheim is one of the precious few who joyfully . and in abject misery . risks these terrors of writing for us, for our pleasure and our undoing. What happens? Language disposes of us. As if that were not all that is required of any writer, Alan Sondheim is also the poet, the artist, the maker who has most profoundly immersed himself and his work in the life-changing code-forms . of networked computation . that have the world and its .genesis redux. in their grip. John Cayley Unpublished endorsement: Pioneer of experimental sensibility in multiple performance media Alan Sondheim tangles us up in these hypnotically repetitive, abject, slyly humorous and childishly gleeful, philosophically, aesthetically, theoretically and psychologically dense and insightful poems that are also essays, diasporic riffs and incantations, true confessions, Platonic dialogues, shtick, tantrums, aphorisms and manifesti. And that.s just the first 5 pieces! Maria Damon
[NetBehaviour] or so
hey people people just released a free album of sound for video at brian m gibson http://brianmgibson.bandcamp.com/album/or-so rickety, brian -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Video self-portrait - The Idea of Karen Blissett
quite beautiful work, karen(s). ...brian On Fri, Jul 23, 2010 at 8:23 AM, karenbliss...@myself.com wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFgdh_L7wEk -Original Message- From: karen blissett karen.bliss...@googlemail.com To: syndic...@ck13.org; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Fri, Jul 23, 2010 12:08 pm Subject: [NetBehaviour] Video self-portrait - The Idea of Karen Blissett Hi All, A video self-portrait called 'The Idea of Karen Blissett', in which I contemplate my future multiple identity, has just been featured on DVblog. http://dvblog.org/?p=6578 Thanks DVblog Karen -- Open, Free, Public and Distributed at last. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Invitation to join me
so we are all karens without loggin in i am not karen.. nor do i karen to be. brian On Tue, Jul 20, 2010 at 3:45 PM, hi...@34n118w.net wrote: dia log u ...glue o ad I exist only in data except here but here means nothing once I hit send so we are all karens without loggin in Hello James, We had an ongoing dialogue before one was many Karens. Here is a collection of images submitted to netbehaviour before: http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20090908/c596a850/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20091007/4c62d762/attachment.jpeg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20100203/0ef974f2/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071220/1d11c9dd/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071114/d38ec032/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071113/a1d6223c/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071112/eecc0558/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071119/59ff1e6c/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071127/9e79e12d/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071130/66b3dc76/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071207/bb6ad1d7/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20071209/3f76561e/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20100313/3b7818ab/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20100211/02f18038/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20100203/eb4e88e6/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20100107/b0455468/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20080211/69dc48ff/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20080223/b76eaf62/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20080323/c5e15357/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20091113/6418cd74/attachment.jpg http://www.netbehaviour.org/pipermail/netbehaviour/attachments/20091029/672677b8/attachment.jpg Karen also has a facebook account - all Karens have passwords to this. The images are there also. Karen. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] redefine and
situation proportion known young seen think first call stat show witness model victim learn line comment moment leave absolute time never walk seldom aggressor aught value quick hands case report text any focus opportunity repeated sticking redefine kids and redefine and kids sticking repeated opportunity focus any text report case hands quick value aught agressor seldom walk never time absolute leave moment comment line learn victim model witness show stat call first think seen young known proportion situation proportion known young seen think first call stat show witness model victim learn line comment moment leave it moment absolute time -- g http://glimpsecontrol.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] shut up gibson
found this while scrubbing through some bollywood movie for work. made me smile uncontrollably. http://glimpsecontrol.com/movin/shutup_gibson.mov ..gibson is glimpsecontrol.com + instantconductors.com + baiowulf.com + lucidunison.com + nhq.cc + suitmachine.tumblr.com + shut up gibson! ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Media Art and Teenage
? saddie benning http://www.vdb.org/smackn.acgi$artistdetail?BENNINGS. On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: Sadie Benning? Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk si...@littlepig.org.uk Skype: simonbiggsuk http:// www.littlepig.org.uk/ Research Professor edinburgh college of art http://www.eca.ac.uk/ *C*reative *I*nterdisciplinary *R*esearch into *C*o*L*laborative *E*nvironments http://www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ *E*lectronic *L*iterature as a *M*odel of *C*reativity and *I*nnovation in *P*ractice http://www.elmcip.net/ *C*entre for *F*ilm, *P*erformance and *M*edia *A*rts http:// www.ed.ac.uk/schools-departments/film-performance-media-arts -- *From: *anniea a...@bram.org *Reply-To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Date: *Tue, 1 Jun 2010 16:59:17 +0200 *To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] Media Art and Teenage Hi Lauren, I was a bit like Michael, but also I cant find the name of the artist I was thinking about Some ten or even more years ago an American young girl had a videotoycamera for her birthday and starts after a sort of emotional shock, if I remember well, filmimg her life. The videos are very low tech and beautifull. Maybe my mail triggers someome elses mind :) Yours Annie On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:44 AM, lwri...@turnercontemporary.org wrote: Hi Michael, Ruth, Many thanks for the suggestions – really really helpful. I had that Axel Stockburger piece on my list already, but not the rest. The show’s finally beginning to coalesce a bit, but I still felt I’d not found quite the right work to look critically at the role of technology in teenagers’ lives. So some really good tips in there. If anyone else has thoughts do keep them coming! xxlaw -- *From:* netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org [ mailto:netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.orgnetbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Szpakowski *Sent:* 31 May 2010 14:27 *To:* NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity *Subject:* Re: [NetBehaviour] Media Art and Teenage Hi Lauren I felt guilty about not replying to this for ages but I couldn't think of *anything* teenager related, which says quite a lot about me , I think. Ruth's reply prompted me think a bit harder and I remembered Michael Daines who was a bit of a star on Rhizome as a teenager in the 2001 or so. The one that people remember is the body of michael daines but he also made a couple of other good things including a rather droll work called it is now safe to turn off your computer . There's a Rhizome memory lane editorial here: http://rhizome.org/editorial/2707 I couldn't find any of the actual pieces though.. hope it's all going well! michael --- On *Mon, 5/31/10, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org* wrote: From: Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Media Art and Teenage To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Cc: LWright lwri...@turnercontemporary.org Date: Monday, May 31, 2010, 1:15 PM Hi Lauren, Sorry for the tardy reply Been meaning to get back to you with a few suggestions. Jeanie finlay makes beautiful work (film, live, networked media, all sorts) with different groups of people Including this, Teenland, film http://www.jeaniefinlay.com/wordpress/?p=3 Classic early (and controversial) netart notable for it's uncomfortable intimacy and heat http://www.mouchette.org/ I found this on Turbulence---Beyond the Fire is an interactive documentary by Sesh Kannan which tells the stories of *teenage* war refugees and their journeys to the U.S. http://archive.itvs.org/beyondthefire/ Although this probably wouldn't make ideal gallery viewing, an online component of this nature might connect with the experience of a section of local Margate teenagers. Could be a great spur for work with the gallery education/outreach programme An old favourite of mine is *Boys in the Hood* - video, Axel Stockburger http://art-action.org/proposition/catalogue/detail_cat.php?codeoeuvre=B13152lang=enqui=realioeuvre=B13152 interviews with players of the controversial computer game Grand Theft Auto. The players deliver their perspective of the narrative space of the game by giving detailed descriptions of locations, movements, and actions in the game. These subjective accounts of a shared space lead to a diffusion of the borders between ‘real’ and ‘virtual’. This from the 2008 Whitney Bienniale sounded pretty spectacular http://whitney.org/www/2008biennial/www/?section=eventspage=at_park_performances *Teenage Lontano *Marina Rosenfield invited 40 teenagers to engage in a musical performance. Under a speaker installation suspended overhead in the vast Drill hall, each teenager
Re: [NetBehaviour] here you go you bunch of expletives
.. .http://images.paraorkut.com/img/funnypics/images/m/middle_finger-12764.jpg On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 10:19 PM, Roboslob robots_have_no_...@it-all.comwrote: making fun of politeness on the internet it's very nice to be very nice even when you don't feel like it you should always converse as though you were conversing to the entire world, because in fact you are as far as you know but what if you don't care that the world knows you're an expletive? what if you want the world to be listening? what to do what to do... where's my confidence when i need it? all time is real-time, nothing is planned, life comes and goes here you have it there you don't. wow this went in an entirely unexpected direction didn't it. oh well, i didn't want to go to work today anyway. what a shitty ending ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ``On the difference between free speech and free beer: free culture as ?people want to be free?''
oh, it does.. On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote: I think freedom should come in furs. On 5/27/10, Rob Myers r...@robmyers.org wrote: On 05/27/2010 03:34 PM, patrick simons wrote: Free the free erm three? Freedoms seem to come in fours. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- Sent from my mobile device * Pall Thayer artist http://www.this.is/pallit * ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] moni
and today long hour meeting lunch with past ride through arrive then home discuss chance but options not olgar tonight harsh curb down kent turn switch light off as shabbat favor south william roll toward shower cold heat shorts temporary convinced to leave sandwich train they knocked out flat first stop fish'd max people famous sigh next trophy near father-style beverage choice break smoke want to leave don't return in stand listen move notice her smile stop notebook pen out rainforest line junk plant drawing fold in pocket approach ask permission her passion answer film photography 6x9 history antoini (later find nights/far/views/doors/strait obligation) in moment of leave gift stone known eye'd tiger assure bow exit now to dream ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Jazz Lounge prelims - sounds for tomorrow night
alan disappointed i'll miss this one please continue to let us know about these my word, this music brian On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:11 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Jazz Lounge prelims - Myk, Azure, and myself playing. We're playing tomorrow night at the Jazz Lounge - http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/rh4.mp3 http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/rh3.mp3 http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/rh2.mp3 http://espdisk.com/alansondheim/rh1.mp3 So this was a departure, Myk on acoustic steel-string carbon-fiber guitar - I'm no the usual various including kamanche which I probably won't bring - but the rest is there - more jazz-oriented maybe - a kind of mellowness - maybe the attempt car-bombing - maybe just the teetering of worlds - in any case, come tomorrow night if you're in the vicinity - if not, or even if you do, have a listen to these. By the way, the poor recording is the result of very soft music and very loud outside noise - and our place was at maybe 84-85 degrees at the time - Alan The AMA Trio and Secret Orchestra at the Jazz Lounge, Tuesday May 4th Tuesday May 4th ESP LIVE @ The Jazz Lounge An experimental music series the 1st Tuesday of every month 520 Dekalb Avenue, Brooklyn, NY 11205 - G train to Bedford/Nostrand Show starts promptly at 8:30! 8:30 pm Alan Sondheim (ESP 1048, ESP 1082) Azure Carter - voice Myk Freidman - lap-steel guitar Alan Sondheim - electric saz, electric oud, cura cumbus, maybe kamache 9:30 pm Secret Orchestra David Gould - drums, percussion Yuko Fujiyama - piano Clif Jackson - bass More about Alan Sondheim: Alan Sondheim was born in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania; he lives with his partner, Azure Carter, in Brooklyn NY. He holds a B.A. and M.A. from Brown University in English. A new-media artist, writer, and theorist, he has exhibited, performed and lectured widely. Current interests include aesthetics and productions of virtual environ- ments and installations, mapping with motion capture and 3d laser scanners, Buddhist philosophy and its relation to avatars and online environments, and experimental choreography. Alan recorded two albums for ESP-Disk' in the 60s which melded free improvisation with electronic instrumentation. His latest recordings have been issued on Porter Records, Fire Museum Qbico. More about Azure Carter: Azure Carter has been writing and performing her own songs for a number of years; she also performs with Foofwa d'Imobilite and Alan Sondheim. Azure is working on her own performances and sets, which are documented online. She has appeared in a number of videos, and sings with Myk Freedman and Alan Sondheim. More about Myk Freedman: Myk Freedman is a 29-year-old lap steel player, composer, arranger, and band leader. In 2003 he moved from Toronto to NYC to study music and pursue the American Dream. Since then, he has preformed with John Zorn, William Parker, Elliot Sharp, Cyro Baptista and Kenney Wessel, as well as with countless others. Myk's compositions have been recorded by many of his own groups, as well as by ensembles: The MK Groove Orchestra, In a China Shop and MARTIN HAYNES, a Toronto duo made up of Justin Haynes and Jean Martin who released an entire record dedicated to his music entitled, FREEDMAN. His arrangements have been premiered at world famous venues such as The Blue Note, John Zorn's The Stone, The Knitting Factory and the 2004 Distillery Jazz Festival where he was nominated for the Emerging Artist Award. As the leader of Saint Dirt Elementary School, Myk has released three positively received albums on Canadian labels, Oval Window Records, Barnyard Records, and Rat Drifting. He splits his time between New York and North York (Ontario) and is currently completing his second songbook of fake folk music. More about Secret Orchestra: Secret Orchestra is an original group initiated by Clif Jackson in 2007 after the trio had already played together as a rhythm section in various other projects. It became apparent that they had a connection and shared osme similar musical ideas. However, they also brought their very different backgrounds into the mix creating a strong dynamic and a wide spectrum of musical space to play in. Although Clif is the 'leader' of the group and writes a lot of the music, he is the youngest member and defers to the knowledge and experience of his elder band mates. Yuko contributes original compositions, as well, and they all contribute to arrangements and aesthetics when appropriate. Furthermore, improvisation is at the center of their music, leaving all of them open to create their own parts or to work within the composer's guidelines. Through a mix of composition and improvisation the overall musical aesthetic is grounded in a sense of direction and an exploration of colors, textures, silence, and rhythmic and melodic structures. -- Adam Downey Director of Promotions ESP-Disk'
[NetBehaviour] birdlife
birdlife http://glimpsecontrol.com/birdlife.mov (quicktime link) :: in woodstock, new york some weeks ago :: drum cut, 35% into 35+75%, ehren shorday :: doubles on multilayered organ with andreas van ingen not tired enough for 3:17am, brian -- glimpsecontrol.com instantconductors.com (exists now) ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIV
will even this truly satisfy manik? content with shithole, brian On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 4:59 PM, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: ...MANIK HAVE SERIOUS CAREER BEHIND...WHICH INCLUDE EXHIBITION IN BEST GALERIES IN BELGRADE...OUR VIDEO WAS SHOWN ALL AROUND EUROPE...AFTER ALL OF THAT WE ARE NOT INTERESTED TO MAKE EXHIBITION IN SOME SHITHOLE GALERIES...THAT'S FOR ART STUDENTS...YOU MISS POIN OF ALL OUR STORY...OF COURSE MANIK ESPECT TO HAVE EXHIBITION IN TATE OR GUGENHEIM...OR PLACE LIKE THAT...OR YOU THINK IT'S NOT FOR MANIK.../?/...MANIK...MAY...2010... - Original Message - From: Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2010 7:47 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CIV I wonder if this isn't the result of an absent somewhat self-sustaining art community? In NY, there are numerous venues - it's almost impossible to get into a museum etc. (that's blue-chip stuff) - but it's not difficult to set up a show somewhere, or show at a smaller space - it's a much broader base. This is especially true for dancer/musician/performer - these things can be done fast and there are a lot of venues - everyone I know here shows somewhere, including people who aren't making money from their work. So the big deals are still there, but they're with big artists who are also brokers - it's a different kind of corruption, but it's one that's easier on bottom-feeders. A big problem is the relation between art and design - so many young artists are concerned with making it and the political/critical edge isn't there so much. On the other hand earlier on, people like Vito Acconci and Dan Graham seemed ruthless here - ambition was everything. - Alan On Sat, 1 May 2010, manik wrote: ...ART BUREAUCRACY IS EXTENSION OF CORPORATIVE *IDEA*...THEY EXISTED TO EXPLOIT RESOURCE WHICH ART MAKE TROUGH HER SHORT INDEPENDENT HISTORY/ARTIFACTS...REAL ESTATE.../ETC.../SO CALLED *AESTHETIC*AS SCIENCE IS NOTHING ELSE THAN ONE MORE PLAYGROUND FOR MARKET...ART BUREAUCRACY LIKE CLERKS BUY AND SELL...NOTHING MORE ...NOTHING LESS...*BIG* NAMES OF CURATORS...ARTISTS... AND ART BROKERS ARE LIKE HEAP IN SOME BIG STOCK MARKET...THEIR NAMES ARE EPHEMERAL...THEIR ROLE IN ART IS MOSTLY DISHONEST...EXAMPLE...IF YOU WANT TO MAKE SOME EXHIBITION IN MY COUNTRY YOU MUST CONTACT SOME STATE INSTITUTION...NOT SOME NET.CHARACTER LIKE MANIK OR SOMETHING...DEAL IS BETWEEN TWO SIMILAR INSTITUTIONS...MINISTRY IN SERBIA STEP IN DEAL WITH RECIPROCAL MINISTRY OF OTHER COUNTRY AND FLOW OF MONEY IS ESTABLISHED... INDIVIDUAL IS JUST SIGNATURE ON CHECK WHO GIVE LEGALITY TO THIS DREGS...FOR ARTIST LEFT SOME SMALL CHANGE AND *GLORY*... FINALLY *ART BUREAUCRACY* DECIDE WHAT'S ART AND WHO COULD BE ARTIST...ARTIST'S ARE COLLATERAL DAMAGE NOW ...THEY LIVE IN WORST UTOPIA EVER...IN WORLD OF *WESTERN POTLATCH* /.BATAILLE-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Bataille/...BUT WITHOUT IT'S ETHIC BASE...EXTINGUISHED AND HUMILIATE ARTIST IS HAPPY TO GIVE TO FAT *ART BUREAUCRACY*HIS BLOOD...IN RETURN THEY CAN SHIT OVER HIM AND HIS SURVIVAL...THAT'S LOOK TO US LIKE WORST PERVERSION...EVER...MANIK...MAY DAY...2010... == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour __ NOD32 4979 (20100328) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] flock buck a tier
*logical shampoo vision* clapping, brian On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 7:05 PM, James Morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: flock buck a tier , tired ours, eyes, sleeting shrine tremolo forceps tweening bird charmers for logical shampoo vision specter gran channel linguistic health flannels bus famine compilation pharmacy twoddle rubber necking flecks twitter-bishop compositing guilty cosine bubble frottage bulbous gritty destitute icicle-test bicycle blessed get flocking box dump sprintf %d\n ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] in the flesh?
in the flesh http://glimpsecontrol.com/flesh/in_the_flesh.mov (quicktime link) during work i often will hear a song and become inspired. unfortunately i have a lot of tasks to finish, so play time is limited. my favorite quick edit for audio manipulation is slowing the speed. weeks ago i made a slow edit from a luther wright and the wrongs song called 'in the flesh?'. last night i shot footage of the wind and things on our roof. today i combined the two withmy last 15 minutes on the clock. above, the result. below, original and altered audio. in the flesh? http://glimpsecontrol.com/flesh/intheflesh.mp3 (luther wright and the wrongs version) in the flesh http://glimpsecontrol.com/flesh/intheflesh40percentile.mp3(at 40 percent) in the text, brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS CXXXXIII
...MANIK, fully loaded... On Sat, May 1, 2010 at 1:25 AM, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: ...MANIK IS NOT HERE TO DISCUSS ABOUT HIS QUALITU...ALSO WE ARE NOT HERE TO PROMOTE GOOD ENGLISH...WE ARE NOT HERE EVEN TO DISCUSS *SOCIAL NETWORK*...WE SHAL REFER ON SOME BASIC PROBLEM IN OUR EGZISTENCE...MANIK'S PROBLEM IS NOT POLITICS...WE ARE VERY FREE TO EXPRES OUR POLITICS OPINION...IT SEEM TO US THAT NOBODY ACTUALY DOESN'T CARE FOR THATSO...WHAT'S THE CATCH...ARTISTS LIKE ASHLEY,MOODY...EVEN LIKE OPIE OR BANKSY HAVE STRONG SOCIAL BACKGROUND...WHICH MEAN THEY KNOW WHERE TO PLACE THEIR GOODS...MANIK HAVE NOTHING LIKE THAT...HE IS UNDER ECONOMIC BLOKADEWHICH LEAD US TO HIPER-POLITIC FALL...THIS FALL IS CAUSED BY GLOBAL/NEOLIBERAL PENETRATION ON EAST/*DRANG NACH OST*/...COUNTRIES WHO SUROUNDED RUSSIA ARE UNDER HUGE INFLUENCE OF WESTERN CAPITAL/NOT QUANTITATIVE...MORE GOOOD CALCULABLE... ESPETIALY IN ART...SOROS..FOR EXAMPLE... MAKE VERY CHEAP INFRASTRUCTURE IN THOSE COUNTRIES...HE KNOW THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO DESTROY NATIONAL ENTITY/IDENTITY BY DESTROY NATIONAL CULTURE/ACTUALY THAT'S NAZI RECIPE...FIRST BOMB IN SECOND WORLD WAR ...HERE IN BELGRADE DESTROY NATIONAL LIBRARY...BEFORE THAT SPY STOLE OLDEST AND MOST IMPORTANT BOOKS FROM XI AND XII CENTURY WITH FIRST TRACE OF SERBIAN CULTURAL AND ETHNIC IDENTITY...SIMILAR THING HAPPENED NOW...OUR NATIONAL MUSEUM IS CLOSSED...MUSEUM OF CONTEMPORAY ART IS ALSO CLOSS...CROWD IN CONTEMPORARY MUSEUM VERE ACTUALY FORMER EMPLOY IN SOROS *OPEN SOCIETY*...DOZEN ARTIST WHO SERVE TO SOROS SPY TRAVEL AND EGZIBIT IN REGION/IT'S STILL NOT ALLOW THEM TO SHOW THEIR PATHETIC SECOND-CLASS 'ART'IN DEWELOP WESTERN COUNTRIES...THEY COULD MAKE EXHIBITION IN BOSNIA,BULGARIA,HUNGARY...ETC...MEANWHILE BY SOME UNBELIEVABLE MIRACLE SOROS CROWD PASS FROM SOROS SALARY ON STATE BUDGET...WE COULD EXPECT EVEN SOME SERBIAN STATE DONATION FOR MR.SOROS PERSONALY AS PETTTIT SIGN OF THEIR GRATITUDE...SO...FROM VERY BEGINNING MANIK WAS AGAINST SOROS INFLUENCE ON SERBIAN ART...YEAR BY YEAR WE WERE UNDER ECONOMIC PRESURE...NEVER GET CALL FOR EXHIBITION WHO GUARANTY RANSOM...HERE'S STIL OLD *ETATE*SYSTEM OF VALUATION AND BUYING UP OF ART WORKS...ONE PICTURE FOR CONTEPORARY ART MUSEUM COLECTION COULD PROVIDE ENOUGH MONEY FOR TWO...THREE YEARS LIVING...WE NEVER GET ANY CALL FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT... ALTHOUGH WE SHOW OUR WORK ON MOST PRESTIGE EXHIBITION IN SERBIA...INCLUDING MUSEUM OF CONTEMPORARY ART...BUT IT WAS FEW YEARS AGO...NOW WE ARE IN THE MARGINS...OUT OF ANY ECONOMIC STREAM/THERE'S NO *MIDDLE CLASS* IN SERBIA...OUR SOCIETY IS 3%OF VERY RICH PEOPLE WHO USE SO CALLED TRASITION TO BECAME ENORMOUS RICH...REST OF CITIZEN ARE VERY POORTHEY ARE PEOPLE VERY FAR FROM ART AND STUF LIKE THAT...THERE'S NO ART MARKET IN SERBIA...WE TRY TO SHOW OUR WORK TO PEOPLE ON THE WEST...WE EXPECT THAT THEY HAVE SENSE FOR QUALITY AND BRAVE HART TO FOLOW THEYR AESTHETIC VISION...MANIK ARE EXCELLENT ARTISTS...BUT IN BUREAUCRACY ART WORLD NOBODY HAVE NO COURAGE TO BUY MANIK'S WORK...WE ARE TIRED AND DISGUST BY COMMENT/EVEN SOME MITCHEL ON NETBEHAVIOUR FIND ENOUGH IMPUDENCE TO DISCUS MANIK'S WORK/WHY DON'T HE DISCUS MR.KOONS OR DAMIEN HEARST/... FIRST ON RHIZOME...NOW ON NETBEVIOUR WE GET PLENTY OF COMPLIMENT...EVEN ANNIEAUO DISCUS ABOU HER FREE WILL TO WROTE OUR OUR NAME AS SHE WANT TO...WITHOUT ANY CONSCIENCE ABOUT HOW PATHETIC IT IS CONSIDERED MANIK'S SITUATION...WE HAVE NO MONEY...WE ARE GOING TO BE TRAMP IN SHORT TIME...MANIK DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU THINK/IF YOU THINK/...HOW'S THAT LOOK TO LIVE WITH 100EUROS FOR MONTH...DID YOU EVER THINK ABOUT SCANDAL LIKE THAT...WHERE YOU LIVE SPOILED BUREAUCRAT...OBVIOUS YOUR WORLD IS NOT THE SAME WORLD AS MANIK'S...WE ARE *INVISIBLE PEOPLE*...WE ARE *OTHER*FOR YOU...WE ARE SILHOUETTE OF WORKERS WHO GO OUT ON NIGHT STREET OF CITY AND FRIGHTENED TO DEATH TARDY CLERKS WHO HURRY TO THEYR WORM HOME/PARAPHRASE H.G. WELLS/...MANIK...THE FIRST MAY...2010... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] on a roof
thank you for watching and listening, michael. :) On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.comwrote: fantastic! Quite, quite ravishing both visually and sonically! michael --- On *Fri, 4/23/10, brian gibson baiow...@gmail.com* wrote: From: brian gibson baiow...@gmail.com Subject: [NetBehaviour] on a roof To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 12:24 AM on a roof http://glimpsecontrol.com/onaroof.mov (quicktime link) video samples include: - two jennifers (ananda and electrik) on a roof with tambourine and sleigh bell - speed altered siren (captured through skylight) - myself on bass line additives - john o’hara drum session, cut to mix - ehren shorday guitarin’ it - johnny o’ on that trumpet -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.orghttp://us.mc1107.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=netbehavi...@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] on a roof
many thanks, alan. the link to your mail archive is news to me. entirely fascinating and thorough.. going to have to spend some more time with this. brian On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Also want to chime in here - quite liked this and it's odd quietness/ intensity - Alan On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, brian gibson wrote: thank you for watching and listening, michael. :) On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com wrote: fantastic! Quite, quite ravishing both visually and sonically! michael --- On Fri, 4/23/10, brian gibson baiow...@gmail.com wrote: From: brian gibson baiow...@gmail.com Subject: [NetBehaviour] on a roof To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Friday, April 23, 2010, 12:24 AM on a roof (quicktime link) video samples include: - two jennifers (ananda and electrik) on a roof with tambourine and sleigh bell - speed altered siren (captured through skylight) - myself on bass line additives - john o?hara drum session, cut to mix - ehren shorday guitarin? it - johnny o?on that trumpet -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org music archive: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ==
The first haircut of Roland Barthes The first meal of Jacques Derrida The first tree of Agnes Varda The first interview of Michael Jackson The first words of Alphonso Lingis The first blue sky of Kathy Acker The first smile of Vito Acconci The first floor of Foofwa d'Imobilite The first touch of Jimmy Carter The first walk of Luce Iregaray The first friend of Allen Ginsberg The first tears of Rene Levesque The first photograph of Michel Foucault The first sitting of Monica Vitti The first rain of Isadore Ducasse The first sighing of Anne Bradstreet The first breath of Marina Abramovic The first sleep of Charlie Parker The first drink of Hermann Weyl The first prayer of Opal Whitely The first touch of Johannes Birringer The first good times of Al McKenzie The first diary of Evelyn Weiss The first thought of Sarah Bernhardt The first memoir of Joseph Fuerman The first goodbye of Simone Signoret The first laugh of Nicole Miller The first book of Ludwig Wittgenstein The first singing of Lucille Ball The first memory of Marguerite Young The first movement of David Marr The first yawn of Armand Schwerner The first lightning of Valeska Gert The first cup of Alan Sondheim The first bird of Andy Karp The first gasp of Michelangelo Antonioni The first sorrow of Anita O'Day The first bed of Buddy Bolden The first swordplay of Robert Fanning The first writing of Karl Marx The first happiness of Martina Navratilova The first gesture of Donald Knuth The first whisper by Merce Cunningham The first thing seen by Azure Carter The first mountain of Terry Fox The first food of Cherie Kanjorski The first hiccup of Ossi Oswalda The first coastline of Kaja Silverman The first one seen of Rainer Maria Rilke On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 3:45 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: The last haircut of Roland Barthes The last meal of Jacques Derrida The last tree of Agnes Varda The last interview of Michael Jackson The last words of Alphonso Lingis The last blue sky of Kathy Acker The last smile of Vito Acconci The last floor of Foofwa d'Imobilite The last touch of Jimmy Carter The last walk of Luce Iregaray The last friend of Allen Ginsberg The last tears of Rene Levesque The last photograph of Michel Foucault The last sitting of Monica Vitti The last rain of Isadore Ducasse The last sighing of Anne Bradstreet The last breath of Marina Abramovic The last sleep of Charlie Parker The last drink of Hermann Weyl The last prayer of Opal Whitely The last touch of Johannes Birringer The last good times of Al McKenzie The last diary of Evelyn Weiss The last thought of Sarah Bernhardt The last memoir of Joseph Fuerman The last goodbye of Simone Signoret The last laugh of Nicole Miller The last book of Ludwig Wittgenstein The last singing of Lucille Ball The last memory of Marguerite Young The last movement of David Marr The last yawn of Armand Schwerner The last lightning of Valeska Gert The last cup of Alan Sondheim The last bird of Andy Karp The last gasp of Michelangelo Antonioni The last sorrow of Anita O'Day The last bed of Buddy Bolden The last swordplay of Robert Fanning The last writing of Karl Marx The last happiness of Martina Navratilova The last gesture of Donald Knuth The last whisper by Merce Cunningham The last thing seen by Azure Carter The last mountain of Terry Fox The last food of Cherie Kanjorski The last hiccup of Ossi Oswalda The last coastline of Kaja Silverman The last one seen of Rainer Maria Rilke ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] on a roof
on a roof http://glimpsecontrol.com/onaroof.mov (quicktime link) video samples include: - two jennifers (ananda and electrik) on a roof with tambourine and sleigh bell - speed altered siren (captured through skylight) - myself on bass line additives - john o’hara drum session, cut to mix - ehren shorday guitarin’ it - johnny o’ on that trumpet ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] make your baby
made http://glimpsecontrol.com/made.png. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Most students use Wikipedia, avoid telling profs about it.
keep at em..:) On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Jim Andrews j...@vispo.com wrote: Bearcat is clearly a deletionist. They are a real problem, and not just for well-referenced notable articles about art. They are convinced (and convince each other) that they are making Wikipedia better by removing articles based not so much on technicalities as on ostentatious ignorance of Wikipedia's own stated aims and criteria. They are wrong. - Rob. Given our discussion, I determined to give trying to get that article on wikipedia another go. And I find that the article has been undeleted, now, which is good. Though there is no indication who undeleted it in the 'history' section. No history of the deletions at all, actually. I see it has been worked on by several people, now. Including the ding bat deletionist who deleted it three or four times, three of which were for bad reasons. They added internal links and categories. I hadn't checked on it in a couple of months, was getting tired of the stupid deletions for bad reasons. My account had also been deleted. Had to recreate it today. ja http://vispo.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com attachment: bookmark.png___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Systems of Romance: Chris Carter- The Space Between Cassette.
yes. thanka, marc. On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 4:28 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Systems of Romance: Chris Carter- The Space Between Cassette. Today's artist should need no introduction, as he's a member of several pioneering electronic acts including the likes of Throbbing Gristle and Chris and Cosey/Carter Tutti. Though Chris Carter lent his skills primarily to these outfits, the English musician recorded several of his own more electronic and less abrasive pieces on the side. http://systemsofromance.blogspot.com/2009/04/chris-carter-space-between-cassette.html ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] IMPORTANT STATEMENTS LXXXIX
even if an eighth full. we've had the blueshttp://glimpsecontrol.com/barfday/Blind%20Blake%20-%20Buck-Town%20Blues.mp3before. http://glimpsecontrol.com/barfday/Blind%20Blake%20-%20Buck-Town%20Blues.mp3 On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 6:54 AM, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: *...IS YOUR EMPTINESS MORE EMPTY THAN MINE...MANIK...FEBRUARY...2010...* ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] one.II.3.
onehttp://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxt5h0PBYU1qzzmvwo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1266197839Signature=MrDHeu1ckKu31pyD0AXu2NZO7ss%3D . IIhttp://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxnfb2NT241qzzmvwo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1266197766Signature=rZiAWi%2FY9oGO5WoI9Adfrj621UQ%3D . 3http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_kxru07jsUa1qzzmvwo1_1280.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0RYTHV9YYQ4W5Q3HQMG2Expires=1266197311Signature=q6Rp6Vh1ZRCBa9IlEGiWghP1F48%3D . at. suit http://suitmachine.tumblr.com. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] why can't we be friends?
why can't we be loop http://glimpsecontrol.com/whycantwe_loo.mov -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
common sense never told me to be a nihilist.. common sense told me to make video. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 12:42 PM, martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.comwrote: Have no idea what this means .. They want some video art that engages current international socio-economic events to put in an exhibition. Common sense tells us it's meaningless. Just cannot write anymore... this is embarrassing nonsense. martin mitchell. On 7 Jan 2010, at 17:11, james morris wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4feature=PlayListp=5840AC014CA20F89playnext=1playnext_from=PLindex=56 :) On 7/1/2010, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: Seems clear to me. They want some video art that engages current international socio-economic events to put in an exhibition. Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments CIRCLE research group www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:50:15 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel Variable Economies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January Is this another example of administrative gobbledegook ...! Have no idear of what you are trying to describe. martin mitchell [ artist ]. On 7 Jan 2010, at 11:25, Helen Sloan wrote: Hello This is my first post here and it's a call - sorry. I really enjoyed the Dark Mountain debate and the one that's emerging on Second Life so far. Meantime, I hope this is of interest and do contact if you want more info. Happy New Year Helen Helen Sloan SCAN CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS: Multichannel 3 Title: Variable Economies Variable Economies provides the theme for the programme of works for Multichannel 2010. The theme implies the current global economic downturn, decreased availability of resources influenced by human intervention in the natural environment, shifts in national and global political emphasis, and formally in relation to the making of artist film and video. For Multichannel 2010 artists are invited to submit works for selection that touch upon the themes of the programme in terms of the use of the medium/material of film and video. Multichannel is a screening programme of artists film and video, organised and curated by ArtSway and SCAN in ArtSway¹s galleries. The programme, which previously took place at ArtSway in 2007 and 2008, will once again feature both established practitioners, as well as ground breaking video works by artists from across the UK, and around the world. This year we are pleased to announce that Animate Projects will partner on Multichannel. The selection panel for Multichannel 3 is: Gary Thomas, Co-director Animate Projects; Helen Sloan, Director, SCAN; Peter Bonnell, Curator, ArtSway. Criteria/ Format of works for selection: Please submit your work for viewing on DVD. Should your piece be selected, we will ask you to supply your work as raw uncompressed files preferably on MiniDV, uncompressed .mpg or ..avi. Duration: We will accept pieces of any duration but please be aware that the screenings last up to 2 hours and shorter pieces will take preference. In exceptional circumstances we may be able to consider one-off screenings of longer pieces. Open to: artists of any age, in any part of the world, working in the format of film or video. Deadline for submitting works: Thursday 28 January 2010 Selection panel meets: Week beginning 8 February 2010 Notification of selection result: 26 February 2010 Exhibition of Multichannel 3 at ArtSway: 2 April - 11 April 2010 Contact and address to send work: Peter Bonnell, Curator, ArtSway, Station Road, Sway, SO41 6BA, UK For more information please contact Peter on +44 (0)1590 682260 (+4) or email: pe...@artsway.org.uk mailto:pe...@artsway.org.uk ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour Edinburgh College of Art (eca) is a charity registered in Scotland, number SC009201 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org
Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
how does one expect another to only use vocabulary that martin is comfortable with? On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 1:34 PM, martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.comwrote: It's not the moving image event itself but the nonsensical language used to describe ideas you are looking for inside of those projected images onto a screen. How does one translate into another language part of dogmatic statements like 'running past', 'flag up' or 'socio economic' ! C.N.A.S. On 7 Jan 2010, at 18:14, Helen Sloan wrote: Martin and List Noone is censored in terms of submitting to this programme. It is open to all. I was merely suggesting that if the approach of the programme feels uncomfortable, it may not be the right one to be involved in. If anyone wishes to contact me about submitting work or any aspect of Multichannel, then please get in touch. Helen On 7/1/10 18:01, martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com wrote: Interesting animation on you tube 'puffing away'. Ok.. idea is perhaps to do with self destruction of planet earth by human beings that assume to be in control of their own destiny, a problem for self aware human beings to try and resolve through creative and artistic actions such as being a member of the crew on Sea Shepherd but that is method of confrontation, maybe I'll think about image content closer to home in the East End of London that might reflect destruction of living artists environment by construction of new Olympic Park. Please no more of this 'international socio-economic events language ..! martin mitchell. Crispy Nails Animation Studio On 7 Jan 2010, at 17:11, james morris wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4feature=PlayListp=5840AC014CA20F89playnext=1playnext_from=PLindex=56 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4amp;feature=PlayListamp;p=5840AC014CA20F89amp;playnext=1amp;playnext_from=PLamp;index=56http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4feature=PlayListp=5840AC014CA20F89playnext=1playnext_from=PLindex=56 :) On 7/1/2010, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: Seems clear to me. They want some video art that engages current international socio-economic events to put in an exhibition. Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments CIRCLE research group www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk From: martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com Reply-To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:50:15 + To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel Variable Economies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January Is this another example of administrative gobbledegook ...! Have no idear of what you are trying to describe. martin mitchell [ artist ]. On 7 Jan 2010, at 11:25, Helen Sloan wrote: Hello This is my first post here and it's a call - sorry. I really enjoyed the Dark Mountain debate and the one that's emerging on Second Life so far. Meantime, I hope this is of interest and do contact if you want more info. Happy New Year Helen Helen Sloan SCAN CALL FOR SUBMISSIONS: Multichannel 3 Title: Variable Economies Variable Economies provides the theme for the programme of works for Multichannel 2010. The theme implies the current global economic downturn, decreased availability of resources influenced by human intervention in the natural environment, shifts in national and global political emphasis, and formally in relation to the making of artist film and video. For Multichannel 2010 artists are invited to submit works for selection that touch upon the themes of the programme in terms of the use of the medium/material of film and video. Multichannel is a screening programme of artists film and video, organised and curated by ArtSway and SCAN in ArtSway’s galleries. The programme, which previously took place at ArtSway in 2007 and 2008, will once again feature both established practitioners, as well as ground breaking video works by artists from across the UK, and around the world. This year we are pleased to announce that Animate Projects will partner on Multichannel. The selection panel for Multichannel 3 is: Gary Thomas, Co-director Animate Projects; Helen Sloan, Director, SCAN; Peter Bonnell, Curator, ArtSway. Criteria/ Format of works for selection: Please submit your work for viewing on DVD. Should your piece be selected, we will ask you to supply your work as raw uncompressed files preferably on MiniDV, uncompressed .mpg or ..avi. Duration: We will accept pieces of any duration but please be aware that the screenings last up to 2 hours and shorter pieces will take preference. In exceptional
Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January
jesus, mart, you are narrow as a sparrow. its safe to say simon is an artist, an academic, a human, a descendent of biggs and more.. and this is said without even really knowing the man.. 'a man is either and artist or an academic.' what an absurd and dangerous idea. get rid of all those boxes in your head. life is easier than you think. On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 7:03 PM, martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.comwrote: Is this an academic statement:-You need to get out more... Spent 7 hours today walking along Lea Valley making digital images of snow and ice effects .. On 7 Jan 2010, at 23:57, Simon Biggs wrote: You need to get out more... Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk *C*reative *I*nterdisciplinary *R*esearch into *C*o*L*laborative *E* nvironments CIRCLE research group www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk -- *From: *martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com *Reply-To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Date: *Thu, 07 Jan 2010 23:55:00 + *To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January It was used without any description of a subject matter, I'm not a politician or economist merely an artist, on reading had no idea about what writer was referring to, I do not read dreadful daily papers or listen to office management language which the original statement was concerned with, spending as much time allowed me aside from basic human needs and desires, in my studio creating mostly digital imagery.Sensible an individual on this site linked a message to . I'm Singing ... on YouTube .. immediately understood idea behind administrative statement. On 7 Jan 2010, at 23:41, Simon Biggs wrote: It wasn’t Helen who used the term “socio-economic”, it was me. Why is that term difficult? It seems clear to me. It evokes those aspects of the social that are primarily to do with exchange; material and otherwise. I’d be interested to know why it might be a difficult term for some people to process, as it might help me tune my language in the future. I like to be precise. Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk *C*reative *I*nterdisciplinary *R*esearch into *C*o*L*laborative *E* nvironments CIRCLE research group www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk x-msg://96/si...@littlepig.org.uk www.littlepig.org.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk AIM/Skype: simonbiggsuk -- *From: *martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com x-msg: //96/martinmitc...@mac.com *Reply-To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org x-msg://96/netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Date: *Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:34:02 + *To: *NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org x-msg://96/netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org *Subject: *Re: [NetBehaviour] Call for Submissions: Multichannel VariableEconomies Screening Programme Deadline 28th January It's not the moving image event itself but the nonsensical language used to describe ideas you are looking for inside of those projected images onto a screen. How does one translate into another language part of dogmatic statements like 'running past', 'flag up' or 'socio economic' ! C.N.A.S. On 7 Jan 2010, at 18:14, Helen Sloan wrote: Martin and List Noone is censored in terms of submitting to this programme. It is open to all. I was merely suggesting that if the approach of the programme feels uncomfortable, it may not be the right one to be involved in. If anyone wishes to contact me about submitting work or any aspect of Multichannel, then please get in touch. Helen On 7/1/10 18:01, martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com x-msg: //96/martinmitc...@mac.com wrote: Interesting animation on you tube 'puffing away'. Ok.. idea is perhaps to do with self destruction of planet earth by human beings that assume to be in control of their own destiny, a problem for self aware human beings to try and resolve through creative and artistic actions such as being a member of the crew on Sea Shepherd but that is method of confrontation, maybe I'll think about image content closer to home in the East End of London that might reflect destruction of living artists environment by construction of new Olympic Park. Please no more of this 'international socio-economic events language ..! martin mitchell. Crispy Nails Animation Studio On 7 Jan 2010, at 17:11, james morris wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHoCd1pTJx4feature=PlayListp=5840AC014CA20F89playnext=1playnext_from=PLindex=56
Re: [NetBehaviour] What's in your wallet?*
http://baiowulf.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/desk.png rootbeers, brian On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.comwrote: :) m. --- On Thu, 12/17/09, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote: From: Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] What's in your wallet?* To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 10:17 PM The desktop I posted today was my work 'puter. Here's my laptop: http://pallit.lhi.is/dtop2.png Michael Szpakowski wrote: http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/desktop.jpg cheers michael --- On Thu, 12/17/09, anniea a...@bram.org wrote: From: anniea a...@bram.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] What's in your wallet?* To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Thursday, December 17, 2009, 12:20 PM http://bram.org/images/desktop.png On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 1:02 PM, Pall Thayer pallt...@gmail.com wrote: http://pallit.lhi.is/dtop.png On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: What's in your wallet?* http://www.alansondheim.org/top.jpg Thanks to James Morris who creates brilliant works on his laptop screen, and to the people on Cybermind, who, years ago, sent out images of their desktop screens as a kind of home-sharing. I'm hoping other people might show their screens as well at this point. Thanks, Alan * annoying U.S. ad for something or other. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- * Pall Thayer artist http://www.this.is/pallit * ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- Documentation Doubel Blind (love) http://aabrahams.wordpress.com/2009/12/09/double-blind-love-documentation/ On Collaboration : http://bram.org/collaboration/index.php -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Mellifluous
all those words and more are these. On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: Mellifluous http://www.alansondheim.org/theatersong.jpg http://www.alansondheim.org/theateruke2.mp4 http://www.alansondheim.org/theatersong.mp4 http://www.alansondheim.org/theateruke3.mp4 The sixty features of a melodic voice; the sixty mellifluous speech. 1. flexible 2. soft 3. attractive 4. delightful 5. pure 6. faultless 7. clear 8. pleasantly soothing 9. worthy of hearing 10. not harmful 11. beautiful 12. subdued 13. not coarse 14. not rough 15. completely subdued 16. beautiful to hear 17. refreshing for body 18. refreshing for mind 19. pleasing the heart 20. generating pleasure and happiness 21. completely without sadness 22. being the object of universal knowledge 23. being the object of thorough understanding 24. completely clear 25. producing pleasure 26. producing manifest pleasure 27. producing universal knowledge 28. producing thorough understanding 29. logical 30. relevant 31. free of repetition 32. possessing the strength of a lion's roar 33. producing the sound of an elephant 34. producing the sound of a cloud (thunder) 35. producing the sound of a Naga (serpent-spirit) 36. producing the sound of Gandharva (a celestial musician) 37. producing the melody of a sparrow 38. producing the melody of Brahma 39. producing the sound of a jivanjivaka bird 40. pleasant as the melodies of the lord of gods 41. producing the sound of a dundubhi drum 42. free of arrogance 43. not degraded 44. harmonious to all sounds 45. free of corrupted words 46. not incomplete 47. not crying 48. not depressed 49. extremely joyous 50. pervasive 51. perfected 52. flowing 53. elegantly connected 54. making all sounds complete 55. satisfying all senses 56. non-abusive 57. unchanging 58. unwavering 59. popular in all circles 60. possessing the best of all components (from Tsepak Rigzin, Tibetan-English Dictionary of Buddhist Terminology) mellifluous Moby Thesaurus words for mellifluous: accordant, achingly sweet, affable, agreeable, agreeable-sounding, ambrosial, amiable, amicable, appealing, ariose, arioso, bittersweet, blissful, candied, canorous, cantabile, catchy, cheerful, compatible, complaisant, congenial, cordial, desirable, dulcet, en rapport, enjoyable, euphonic, euphonious, euphonous, fair, fair and pleasant, felicific, felicitous, fine, fine-toned, genial, golden, golden-tongued, golden-voiced, good, goodly, gracious, grateful, gratifying, harmonious, heart-warming, honeyed, honeysweet, likable, liquid, melic, melliferous, mellifluent, mellisonant, mellow, melodic, melodious, music-flowing, music-like, musical, nectareous, nectarous, nice, pleasant, pleasant-sounding, pleasing, pleasurable, pleasure-giving, pleasureful, rewarding, rich, sacchariferous, satisfying, silver-toned, silver-tongued, silver-voiced, silvery, singable, songful, songlike, sonorous, sour-sweet, sugarcoated, sugared, sugarsweet, sugary, sweet, sweet and pungent, sweet and sour, sweet as sugar, sweet-flowing, sweet-sounding, sweetened, sweetish, syrupy, tunable, tuneful, welcome (from Moby Thesaurus II by Grady Ward, 1.0 [moby-thes]) ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] thisboxoftext
thisboxoftext thisboxoftext thisboxoftext thisboxoftext ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] privacy @ this box of text, iron != chrome
well, thanks james. and i'd imagine i should be sorry. just did not know. however, iron does not look to be available for mac.. suggestions or alternatives would be greatly appreciated. people on the list- i sincerely hope this is not offensive to your privacy? obliviously, brian On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 9:05 PM, james morris ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: this box of text inspect html class=webkit-indent-blockquote but there's no css defining any classes! what uses webkit-indent-blockquote (front-page-express!? quack! quack!) google chrome uses webkit-indent-blockquote do google: chrome is evil do google: chrome privacy conclusion: brian gibson may be using google chrome and so i should be the one to make him worry about his privacy in his using of it, plus privacy is a theme on this list and i can justify it that way too. check: http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron_chrome_vs_iron.php ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] television
television http://glimpsecontrol.com/television.mov two apartments ago my favorite pastime was scoring cell phone photographs of closed caption gold mines off the television. i began organizing a collection (which you can view herehttp://glimpsecontrol.com/telev.html ) and made this little video yesterday. with thanks. and hands, brian -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Exhibition plan for DIWO at the Dark Mountain
hi ruth! thanks for including me in this :) wish i could be there in the flesh.. as for my name.. just 'brian gibson' is fine. baiowulf is kind of a childhood thing that has stuck.. thanks again and again! brian On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Andrej Tisma a...@eunet.rs wrote: Dear Marc, I am glad you got it now, and you replied. You know my email address changed since April, because we all users in Serbia got rs instead of yu (which standed for Yugoslavia) at the end, so maybe that is why my contribution didn't come to the list. Now I cahnged my email address in the list account and it got through. But I am glad it is not too late. I sent this to the list on Nov. 11 for the first time, and several times repeatedly, but it never went through it seams. Thanks and all the best, keep the good work. Andrej Hi Andre, No problem, will sort out tomorrow :-) wishing you well thanks... marc I have been compiling sound all day, will check regarding sound at the space tomorrow. Hi Marc,I hear you are working on presentation of sound works for the show. I never got a confirmation that you received my sound work contribution I sent weeks ago, I also mentioned in the chat on Friday. But couldn't get to you because you were busy.So plese, one more time I am reminding you about it: Virus Detected http://www.atisma.com/sound/VirusDetected.mp3 Plese confirm that you have received it and tah you will include it in show. Love, Andrej Tisma ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] TIME
time for lunch.. On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 12:36 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: I know I didn't... marc ...WHO INVENTED TIME... MANIK,NOVEMBER 2009... - Original Message - From: marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 2:13 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] TIME Time is invented marc TIME IS LOVE Bob manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote Wed, 18 November, 2009 22:38:31 TIME IS MONEY... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour __ NOD32 4618 (20091118) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fw: Fw: Fw: Fw: DIWO accidental voyagethroughboredom
dark. light. On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 6:43 PM, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: ...*yes?* *no?* ... MANIK,NOVEMBER 2009... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] songs again and again
some immaculately beautiful stupidity. On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 2:27 AM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: songs again and again eo1-4, Azure Carter, voice, myself, electric oud eo5, myself, electric oud http://www.alansondheim.org/eo1.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/eo2.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/eo3.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/eo4.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/eo5.mp3 you'd listen to the ensemble first. you'd take note of the bass response and the tricks, and playing in and out of tune, and the shame of playing out of tune. you'd then note, something's present as if murmuring was an order of the day, sounding through the improbable dance of fingers on a particularly ungainly solid-body instrument somewhat poorly made by tharwat saber, egyptian, eleven strings, tuning ADeadg. you'd stay way from these instruments with overdetermined tradition, but this is strange enough, open to new ways of playing. i curse myself for playing at all, it's a useless enterprise, idiotic, narcissistic, not even dance-play, just wood. http://www.yourworldinstruments.com/product-p/oud-32.htm - an example. stupid stupid stupid stupid stupid. ok it sounds good. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] 2x4
2x4.html http://glimpsecontrol.com/2x4.html thought i lost this.. but then i didn't. -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] 2x4
and actually your html from earlier sparked the memory of it.. so thanks for that! brian -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Renee Turner geu...@xs4all.nl wrote: super! Excellent find :-) Renee www.geuzen.org www.fudgethefacts.com On Nov 2, 2009, at 9:00 PM, brian gibson wrote: 2x4.html http://glimpsecontrol.com/2x4.html thought i lost this.. but then i didn't. -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] diwo :::: fox news
fox newshttp://a22.video2.blip.tv/243967149/Baiowulf-FoxNews684.mov?bri=5.7brs=2346 -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO: a host of whys
hi dougald, i'm so sorry. http://glimpsecontrol.com/baio/sorry_loopWEB.mov and i hope this doesnt seem overly sarcastic and stupid to you. i think it's really funny and it seemed appropriate or something. following suit with introductions and explanations.. i am brian. i live in south williamsburg, brooklyn. (alan, you are near? maybe we'll cross paths one day) for rent money i am a dvd author of documentaries, art films and scholastic children's movies. in the moments spare i make videos, music, drawings, etc (glimpsecontrol http://www.glimpsecontrol.com) i lurk on this site (hence my lack of welcoming) ..i feel to young to do anything but.. much much much to learn, much. BUT! i feel i've learned the most from netbehaviour when everyone is arguing. not to say the moments they (we) all come together aren't beautiful and momentous.. but the clashing of such strong and constructed ideas, to me, is more proving of unison than any string of compliments. the fact that you were able to pull any response from this group is fascinating and admirable, no? as for the manifesto, (and this may be youth talking..) but i don't care about it that much.. well.. not as much as i care about the ripple it has created. it has made us all think a little harder and sharpen our ideas, challenging our opinions about what we envision the future to hold. oh, but also too, it has led to a string of thoughtful posts from several of my favorite contributors (and the posts even rhyme with one another!) oh. and marc. you are the man. i think you are made of steel and live in a castle made of numbers. thanks for doing this thing. it's a sweet ride. (i think we should start a bimonthly 'thank marc' day..h..) ok, this was supposed to be short. rootbeers, brian On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 7:16 PM, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: ...I DO FEEL I... MANIK,OCTOBER 2009... - Original Message - From: Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO: a host of whys I agree with Annie, and want to add the list is a community, work and discussing ranging from personal to lab to collab, but it's all with others; even with the pieces I put up, created for the most part out of context here, are always within context, always collab (rarely commented on, probably not read/watched/heard that much), that collab comes from without as well as within, collab is transported. Oddly DIWO sounds sexual as well (perhaps others have pointed that out), touching (literally) on the dance-work we've been doing with others (short however of doing _it_). I do feel if I were in England I'd be visiting everyone I could face-to- face, which is still for me the best kind of intimacy; I've met for example Simon Biggs, which was wonderful, so in a way I hear/see him through his words here. And it's an odd list, with people emotionally intimate at times as well, which is a gift. I've not been able to collab in a formal sense here, generally I'm uncomfortable with that. As far as manifestos go, they've always been a problem for me (as are most political and artistic pronouncement, protocols, protocol sentences). As far as welcoming people to this (or other lists), I've almost never been welcomed myself, that doesn't seem how most lists, even communal lists, work, and as I said above, my work's rarely commented on, so be it; I have to take responsibility for that as well as for my untoward production. - Alan On Sat, 31 Oct 2009, anniea wrote: *Do* = act *It* What? make a show *With* = this is the difficult part *Others *Who? not me (I wanted to put a list of the names of all subscribers, but as I am not an administrator I don't have access to the list of subscribers) I (Annie Abrahams, artist working on computermediated communication?) never like manifestos, I am some one who likes to think, to observe and to act, no so much to talk and discuss , but I do respect Dougalds position and work and I am very glad you (Dougald) are observing us and hopefully participating in, just trying to do something as simple as make a show together. *At* Where? HTTP gallery *The* = the, no capital *Dark*, Let there be light *Mountain* is too far away, too high == email archive: http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ webpage http://www.alansondheim.org sondheimat gmail.com, panix.com == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour __ NOD32 4561 (20091031) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org
Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO - HTML Cinema Presents Alan Sondheim's 'Poseurs' -PS
um.. bedtime is getting pushed back tonight. thanks for the heads up, michael. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.comwrote: I should have said I used the marvellous 'Reductionizer' for this: http://www.donrelyea.com/reductionizer_project.htm m. --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com Subject: DIWO - HTML Cinema Presents Alan Sondheim's 'Poseurs' To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 10:31 PM http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/diwo2009/sondheim/ curiously, this seems to work better in IE than Firefox. cheers m. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO - HTML Cinema Presents Alan Sondheim's 'Poseurs' -PS
ah, but only on windows.. a harsh realization. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:44 AM, brian gibson baiow...@gmail.com wrote: um.. bedtime is getting pushed back tonight. thanks for the heads up, michael. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.comwrote: I should have said I used the marvellous 'Reductionizer' for this: http://www.donrelyea.com/reductionizer_project.htm m. --- On Sat, 10/31/09, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com Subject: DIWO - HTML Cinema Presents Alan Sondheim's 'Poseurs' To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Saturday, October 31, 2009, 10:31 PM http://www.somedancersandmusicians.com/diwo2009/sondheim/ curiously, this seems to work better in IE than Firefox. cheers m. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] beautiful evammusik
evammovinghttp://a3.video3.blip.tv/0160001455076/Baiowulf-evammoving803.m4v?bri=3.8brs=1324 On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:52 AM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: beautiful evammusik pump organ music which makes me smile and takes me somewhere beyond my own troubles into a beautiful and deep realm where all things are possible where all things are possible http://www.alansondheim.org/evammusic.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/evammusik.mp3 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Diwo Re: unsigned head5
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 7:27 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com attachment: unsigned_head_thump.jpg___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] I MUST SAY
..i must not say i don't... On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:53 PM, manik ma...@sbb.rs wrote: *...I MUST SAY I THINK...* MANIK,OCTOBER 2009... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO at The Dark Mountain
honesty, opinions and debate are uncivilized now? maybe a definition of civilization, or rather how the word is intended to be perceived by diwo at dark mountain, is in order. while arguments for both sides are clear and warranted, my favorite statement thusfar: I will not be diverted by the manifesto in a literal way, I will exploit it so I can use my imagination according to my needs to understand it on my terms with a flexible mind, like an artist does :-) this thread has kept me refreshing my mailbox.. thanks netbehaviour. brian On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:07 PM, karen blissett karen.bliss...@googlemail.com wrote: well, we certainly have proved how uncivilized we are on here ;-( On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:45 PM, Michael Szpakowski szp...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Bob that's a very genial response to my somewhat grumpy rant :) I have to disagree, though. It's not a story - it's a polemic. It contains things which I believe to be true and I attempt, successfully or no, to demonstrate their truth or at least to indicate reasons for believing them to be so. The notion that we can at random call such things stories indicates a dose of the postmodern disease where, as with Humpty Dumpty, a word mean just what I choose it to mean -- neither more nor less. The same thing applies to the (ab)usage of the word civilisation in the manifesto. cheers michael --- On Wed, 10/28/09, bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: From: bob catchpole bobcatchp...@yahoo.co.uk Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DIWO at The Dark Mountain To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Date: Wednesday, October 28, 2009, 4:40 PM Michael, I believe your posting can be read as an important 'story'... a passionately expressed piece of writing about the incredible dilemna we're in... Bob Michael Szpakowski wrote Wednesday, 28 October, 2009 13:41:46 I live for art but if I *am* in a boat going over a cataract I don't paint a picture of it Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] it rains.
when it rains, it pours. thanks for these, alan. On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 5:32 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: it rains. What happens when you can't get the sound right? The day's overcast again, until 6:30 last night I recorded and recorded, making a mess of things. rainday4 I replaced, still trying, while rainday5 sputters like a dirt bike without the excuse of dirt; it makes its own. The music I do sounds more and more oppressive, one instrument, one sound, in a fast-forward world of tantric-sonic generation and completion. It's the last vestige of the artisan in me, last vestige of primitive accumulation, if nothing but notes, and here even less than that. I'm my own medicine wagon, taking my own medicine, remaining incurable. The files below are replacements, just as I am; they shudder, just as I do, one foot in the grave, the other, for good measure, dragged behind. When the rhythm no longer holds, the center fails; each of these pieces is a metaphor, either replete at the surface and empty at the heart, or - more likely - replete at the heart with emptied, emptied surface. http://www.alansondheim.org/rainyday4.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/rainyday5.mp3 I am the it that rains. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] unwhisperable
hi everyone, and a new songhttp://baiowulf.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/unwhisperable.mp3 . shears, brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] A fabric with vision
Researchers create flexible lensless camera from web of light-detecting fibers Elizabeth A. Thomson, News Office July 8, 2009 Imagine a soldier's uniform made of a special fabric that allows him to look in all directions and identify threats that are to his side or even behind him. In work that could turn such science fiction into reality, MIT researchers have developed light-detecting fibers that, when weaved into a web, act as a flexible camera. Fabric composed of these fibers could be joined to a computer that could provide information on a small display screen attached to a visor, providing the soldier greater awareness of his surroundings ...more http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2009/flexible-0708.html ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] are you in new york ?
hi marc, this would be fantastic ! please, let me know when you are around + brian On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Brian, mmm - we could do something in a month's time :-) marc hello all you netbehaviour people, anyone up for a collaboration on some digital video? something in the vein of absurd narrative? let me know. want to see some of my previous work before deciding whether or not to respond? can't blame you.. glimpsecontrol.com http://glimpsecontrol.com/ ey! brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] are you in new york ?
aha.. no need for apology, marc.online would be just as fantastic! so, with slight rewording.. please, let me know when you have free time :) brian On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:40 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Oh Brian, I meant do something on-line... Unfortunately, myself Ruth are unable to travel long distances for the next 4 months because we have taken the pledge with some others, not to fly by plane. Sorry for the confusion ;-( marc hi marc, this would be fantastic ! please, let me know when you are around + brian On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 12:57 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org mailto:marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Brian, mmm - we could do something in a month's time :-) marc hello all you netbehaviour people, anyone up for a collaboration on some digital video? something in the vein of absurd narrative? let me know. want to see some of my previous work before deciding whether or not to respond? can't blame you.. glimpsecontrol.com http://glimpsecontrol.com http://glimpsecontrol.com/ ey! brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto: NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto:NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com http://glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com http://baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] are you in new york ?
hello all you netbehaviour people, anyone up for a collaboration on some digital video? something in the vein of absurd narrative? let me know. want to see some of my previous work before deciding whether or not to respond? can't blame you.. glimpsecontrol.com ey! brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] atoll
good afternoon all, a new video: atoll http://glimpsecontrol.com/atollWEBBB.mov and thanks! brian -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com lucidunison.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] yooouuutuuube
from a friend, to eye, to you. http://www.yooouuutuuube.com/ brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] meeting mosaic man
sunday in the east village of new york city. meeting mosaic manhttp://lucidunison.tumblr.com/post/97972739/meeting-mosaic-man-b ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] eye lens
eye lens http://glimpsecontrol.com/baio/eyelens_WEB.mov for those with 2 minutes ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] songs?
am floored by untitled on steel.thanks for that. and the rest too. brian On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 1:13 PM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.orgwrote: Hi Mark, On a more detailed listen - I love this stuff :-) marc songs to sing and dance to - well, not exactly... http://www.myspace.com/untitledonsteel ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] you can either
hello all, a new one. http://glimpsecontrol.com/instant/you_can_eitherWEB.mov and the mp3. http://glimpsecontrol.com/instant/you_can_either.mp3 good luck today, brian -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] url corrected here, apologies -
inducing. beautiful. On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 3:35 PM, Alan Sondheim sondh...@panix.com wrote: two phenomenologies of acoustic architecture, please have a listen Monk Parakeets (Quaker Parrots) nesting at Greenwood Cemetary in Brooklyn - three large nests at the entrance. the sound is digitally slowed-down to reveal the interaction between digital artifacts and call structures and details. a sense of the _space_ of the calls is clear. http://www.alansondheim.org/quarterparrot.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/tenthparrot.mp3 three audio pieces from a sound version of the Second Life installation, detailing an invisible but definable virtual path among sources. something here resonates with the classical Greek chorus and Sarah Bernardt; the space is evocative, choratic. http://www.alansondheim.org/hardlyremember1.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/hardlyremember2.mp3 http://www.alansondheim.org/hardlyremember3.mp3 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] getting onto furtherfield.org
works like a charm over here.. not even a delay in load. On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:43 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi all, I wonder if you can help us? Some are having trouble getting www.furtherfield.org on their browser - could some others do us a favour and visit the link and let us know if it's ok? thanks again... marc ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] dylan, simone, supremes temptations
mixed in one. http://glimpsecontrol.com/suitmachine/here_comes_the_respect_ma.mp3 created under the alias suit machine. -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] editing
it go a little something like this..editing.mp3http://glimpsecontrol.com/instant/editing.mp3 oh, and new post on baiowulf http://www.baiowulf.com if you have a few minutes for video. your time is gold. brian -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] My Stuff 2...
hello marc, some exciting audio ! these 5 on loop to get me through this work day safely. thanks brian On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:09 AM, karen blissett karen.bliss...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello James, Like your image and like Marc's music - all is refreshing. karen... On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:30 PM, james of jwm-art net ja...@jwm-art.netwrote: Hi Marc, I like souls_settled_within... In keeping with your lofi asthetic... and me finally being able to connect to the net through linux (after 7 years) i've attached a little piccie :) unfortunately i live in a gprs network but my girlfriend has 3g network (and my computer) so later i'll check out the others. james. On 5/3/2009, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Hi Dave, Again, much thanks for listening, Even though it seems like a band because I have used 'Ouch Those Monkeys', as a group name for these in the past; the sound and or music, is engineered, mixed, played all by me. Some are new, some old. A couple from 2002 even, such as 'Outer Limits' - they consciously lo-tech and the even some of the lyrics to a few of the songs are nearly 20 years old. ' The War Against Imagination' lyrics were written originally in 1990. Some lyrics, just a couple of years. Although I lyrics more recently written in other tunes etc... wishing you well. marc hi marc really great - thanks for posting these - did you do them recently? And is it just you, or is there a band playing? hope you're well dave 2009/3/5 marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org mailto:marc.garr...@furtherfield.org My Stuff 2... Another selection of past songs/sounds that I have created - enjoy... Perhaps the best way to appreciate these are as, net art sounds - sketches expressed via the Internet. I am in the process of re-editing and creating more tracks - enjoy :-) marc The Outer Limits. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/outer_limits(128).mp3http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/outer_limits%28128%29.mp3 http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/outer_limits%28128%29.mp3 Jello Ain't Yello. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/jello_ain%27t_yello.mp3 Venus Vs Warz. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/venus%20vs%20warz.mp3 Souls Are Settled Within Not Seeing. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/souls_settled_within(64k).mp3http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/souls_settled_within%2864k%29.mp3 http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/souls_settled_within%2864k%29.mp3 The War Against Imagination. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/war_against.mp3 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org mailto: NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Two with Doron
hey, thanks for watching edward ! On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Edward Picot edw...@edwardpicot.com wrote: These are just fantastic, especially OkCharlie, which manages to be fingerclickin' funky and toecurlingly clever at the same time. It's also got a real sense of personality in that little grin Doron gives as he lifts his cup of coffee. - Edward ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Exhibition by Doron Golan and Michael Szpakowski - Thereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent...
good god yall why am i not in north london On Fri, Dec 19, 2008 at 5:15 AM, marc garrett marc.garr...@furtherfield.org wrote: Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent: An exhibition at HTTP Gallery in London by Doron Golan and Michael Szpakowski. Private View 7-9pm Fri 16th January 2009 Open 16 January - 1 March 2009 Fri-Sun 12noon-5pm Unit A2, Arena Design Centre, 71 Ashfield Rd, London N4 1NY. http://www.http.uk.net/ Collaboration is working together. Can two people work together without ever having met? Doron Golan and Michael Szpakowski demonstrates that they can... Whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent: The exhibition takes its title from Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus by the philosopher of language Ludwig Wittgenstein. It explores a collaboration between two artists across geographical distance through the ineffable language of image. Israeli video artist and filmmaker Doron Golan and British artist, composer and educator Michael Szpakowski both make digital films, which they share through websites and email lists, exploring the mystery of everyday life and of being a human in this place and time. Over the years, the two artists have developed a dialogue and friendship through the exchange of their work. Since 2005 they have collaborated to found and curate DVblog.org, a groundbreaking early platform for art films on the Internet. And yet they've never met face to face. HTTP Gallery in North London is pleased to host the first meeting between Golan and Szpakowski and their art, in real space. Making their online collaborative process physical, the central installation has three elements: a new silent film by each of the artists with a new musical composition by Szpakowski. Bearing their shared sympathies in mind, the artists have independently determined the length and subjects of their films. As a result, the correspondences and resonances between the works are as yet unknown, and will change constantly. The collaborative installation will be accompanied by elements of their independent practices, including a new installation by Szpakowski utilising video and silver birch branches and a selection of Golan's recent videos, engaging with elements of life in the Middle East and his native Israel, to which he has returned after many years living in New York City. For more information about the exhibition artists: http://www.http.uk.net/exhibitions/golan_szpakowski/index.shtml Location Details: http://www.http.uk.net/docs/gettingto.shtml -- HTTP Gallery based near North London's thriving Green Lanes area is London's first dedicated gallery for networked and new media art. Working with artists from around the world, HTTP provides experimental approaches to exhibiting artworks simultaneously in physical and virtual space, and for online projects that explore participative and collaborative art practice. Projects on DVD, real-time, webcast, software art and live art also play a role in their curatorial work. Past Exhibitions: http://www.http.uk.net/docs/exhib12/exhibitions12.shtml HTTP Gallery is run by furtherfield.org http://www.furtherfield.org ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] loft party
*Newsonic Holiday Party* *an evening of experimental rock, jazz, and noise in hasidic williamburg* join us for another legendary underground loft extravaganza. free admission! live music from *Starstrewn and Tattered* http://www.myspace.com/starstrewnandtattered *Junk House Butt House * http://www.myspace.com/junkhousebutthouse *Bot* http://www.myspace.com/botmetal *Talibam!* http://www.myspace.com/talibam *Fan-Tan* http://www.myspace.com/fantanrock *Lampa* http://www.myspace.com/lampa *Jewel Thief * * * *+ Dynasty Electric DJs and video projections by brian gibson* *Friday December 12*9pm - late 76 Rutledge St., Brooklyn Free Admission Cheap Drinks MAP: http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=enclient=firefox-arls=org.mozilla:en-US:officialhs=llUq=76+rutledge+st.,+brooklyn,+nyum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Xoi=geocode_resultresnum=1ct=title Come early! *Free beer from 9-10*. open invitation. bring your friends. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] My Stuff...
amazing. thank you On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:38 PM, marc garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: My Stuff... A selection of past songs/sounds that I have created - enjoy... marc Valentines Day. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/valentines_day.mp3 I Eat The World. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/i_eat_the_world.mp3 K1ll1ng by Numb3rs. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/killing_by_numbers.mp3 Reaching Outwards. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/reaching_outwards_(cannibals)2.mp3 Run Monkey Run. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/run_monkey-run_128kb.mp3 Safehouse. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/safehouse.mp3 Cyber Sex Sensation. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/cyber_sex_sensation.mp3 fLESH-TONAL FEEDBACK... http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/flesh_tonal_feed_back.mp3 Quirksome Life. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/quirksome_life.mp3 Meeting of Minds. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/meeting_of_minds_(64k).mp3 Armchairs - Part of the Crowd. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/armchairs_part_of_the_crowd_64kb.mp3 Gravity - it has weight http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/gravity.mp3 Nature's Trapping http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/natures_trapping.mp3 Bright Starz. http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/bright%20starz.mp3 FAT (bodies homeless on the streets). http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/fat.mp3 Rubbery Gates http://www.furtherfield.org/otmonkeys/musik/rubbery_gates.mp3 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] where the numbers at?
3 new pdf files up at glimpsecontrol.com under DRAWdraw. thanks, brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Team records 'music' from stars - Like Aphex Twin music.
wow a million thank yous On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:21 PM, aymeric mansoux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: marc garrett said : Team records 'music' from stars - Like Aphex Twin music. By Pallab Ghosh Science correspondent, BBC News. Scientists have recorded the sound of three stars similar to our Sun using France's Corot space telescope. The subtly pulsating, haunting sounds are very similar to artist Aphex Twin's minimalistic nineties album 'Selected Ambient Works, Vol. 2,' only stripping away what little melody it had and leaving just the beat. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7687286.stm Reminds me of Lustmord He used such sounds in 94 as material for an album ARECIBO/Trans Plutonian Transmissions http://www.discogs.com/release/114042 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arecibo_Observatory#Arecibo_in_popular_culture nice one if you like darkambient. a. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] unaimed one, unaimed two
all! couple new ones. http://baiowulf.com/?p=335 ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] never herd
just posted 13 new songs @ http://glimpsecontrol.com/musiccc.html ..if only you have time for a few! ,brian glimpsecontrol.com baiowulf.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] choosing its weapons
new audiovisual piece up. http://baiowulf.com/?p=310 thanks brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] lincoln
hello all, just posted a new video i shot and made music for.. http://baiowulf.com/?p=307 hope you have the time. thanks, brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] grab the helmet
Hi Renee! thanks so much for your time and kind words! for the original 3 tracks I actually only captured the audio (though i still have the video on tape..) it wasn't until I actually faced up to this being a longer term project that I began to capture the video too.. to be honest these 3 tracks took me off guard a little.. so to answer your question more directly- I doubt there will be videos for the 3.. at least video with the corresponding instruments that is.. I currently have 6 or 7 tracks in the works for a full length type thing.. all future works will have videos.. will certainly post them to netbehaviour. appreciate your link to freesound- amazing! I had not come across this before. many thanks! brian On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 3:32 AM, Renee Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brian, I thoroughly enjoyed this, especially, Wagnall funk is now on paperback! Are you planning on making videos for all of the pieces? And as an aside, are you familiar with thefreesoundproject http://www.freesound.org/ ? It's a great resource for sounds (the good, the bad and the ugly ;-). It could be interesting to feed your music or a few samples back into something like this for further re-mixing. all the best with your work...and thanks again for posting it to the list :-) Renee On 13 Aug 2008, at 16:11, Brian Gibson wrote: hello all, name is brian. new to the list and loving it. i've recently made a 3 track e.p. type thing and would love to share- www.glimpsecontrol.com/grabthehelmet.html all sounds are recorded with my mini dv camera and edited in final cut pro. there is a 4th song with the video layer accompaniment at http://baiowulf.com/?p=298 your time is appreciated! brian ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour http://www.fudgethefacts.com/ http://www.geuzen.org/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
