[NetBehaviour] HARMONY
Hi Michael, I like this one because there's good balance between colage,colour and tekstual background. All those elemnts are in harmony. http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/9353420500/ Best wishes MANIK ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: 3D Printed Readymades
I should say it again because it's meter of principles: there's only one ready
made until Rob's re-define that area of human understanding of that phenomenon
... its ''Bottle rack'' / M.Duchamp, 1914/. Different between ''Bottle rack''
and other Duchamp's ''readymades'' is similar with different between monotheism
and polytheism. Fact that Duchamp sometime call his ''readymades'' as ''ready-
made added'' show us that he has some kind of intuitive knowledge about epochal
and unique nature / essence / of, shall I tell - ''monotheistic'' universe of
this one and only ready made (''Bottle rack'' 1914). If you could multiply
Universe you could multiply readymades. That was, in short what Rob Myers make
/ in intention, execution is matter of technique / .
If you thing about *ready made* same as of any word which human kind use than
we waste space and energy without reason.
Of course: all I say about ready mades have no implications on Rob's work. He
made, actually, / and that's the positive ''absurd'' we should try to
understand / condition to ready made became something which we could accept
only in endless number of copies. He ''invent'' *holly ghost* with repetition
of one ''ready made added'' and that act (repetition) made of *One and only*
Ready made existing - live principal, from object he / Rob / jump in immanent,
dialectic reason which is base of ready made as object. This is operation
similar to inventing resurrections and endless repeat of Christ, his born and
dying who became paradigmatic and iconic first in religion and now in new
''art religion'' / sorry, Rob, but you did that :) take care the other time!/.
So far we have two history of readymades: one with Duchamp's ''Bottle
rack''/monotheistic, object, aural / and other with Myers 3D replicas;
polytheistic, repeating, digital. I hope we understand each other and all
implications of Rob Myers act which is epochal as real beginning of XXI century
hipper-conceptual art based on new technology ... We even could say - it is
first NMA art piece who change complexity of ''old'' art history without
rejecting some of best thing we have there. In Goethe's sense, it's not
''original'' art without influence, because as Goethe say /paraphrase/:''When
somebody tell me about some poet that he's absolutely original I deeply
doubt,because humanity is chained, and that's impossible to be along, original
without any influence or connections with past ...''
There's one article about that issue. I haven't read it because I wasn't in
mud, but who know ... It could be usefully for something/somebody (
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/how-duchamp-made-a-splash-and-changed-art-forever-6156613.html
)... MANIK ... JULY ... 2013 ...
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From: Radovan Misovic
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Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2013 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] 3D Printed Readymades
Great idea! A recode project of readymades :)
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From: "mez breeze"
To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity"
Sent: Tuesday, 2 July, 2013 11:39:22 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] 3D Printed Readymades
Agreed. Blogging it right now...
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 7:27 AM, ruth catlow
wrote:
Brilliant!
On 02/07/2013 11:56, Rob Myers wrote:
> A blog post at about 3D printing art that starts with my shareable
> readymades and continues with a show at the Warhol museum:
>
> English: http://blog.maketank.it/2013/07/dadaist-warhol-3d-printing/
>
> Italian: http://blog.maketank.it/it/2013/07/stampa3d-warhol-dada/
>
> "We find ourselves at the beginning of a question about the value and
> reception of art in this new world in which I can print off a Dadaist
> readymade at home; a world that Gutenberg opened up with the printing
> press, that Benjamin explored within the increasing quality of
> lithography and photographic prints."
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[NetBehaviour] PUZZLE
PUZZLE Posted by MARIJA VAUDA PILIPOVIC | Mon Jul 8th, 2013 ... http://www.tumblr.com/dashboard ... MANIK ...JULY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: manik To: netbehaviour Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: RIOT RIOT Posted by MARIJA VAUDA PILIPOVIC | Mon Jul 8th, 2013 ...PUZZLE RIOT ... MANIK ... JULY ... 2013 ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: RIOT
... http://www.tumblr.com/dashboard ... MANIK ...JULY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: manik To: netbehaviour Sent: Monday, July 08, 2013 11:57 AM Subject: RIOT RIOT Posted by MARIJA VAUDA PILIPOVIC | Mon Jul 8th, 2013 ...PUZZLE RIOT ... MANIK ... JULY ... 2013 ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] RIOT
RIOT Posted by MARIJA VAUDA PILIPOVIC | Mon Jul 8th, 2013 ...PUZZLE RIOT ... MANIK ... JULY ... 2013 ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] MARXIST
MARXIST Posted by MARIJA VAUDA PILIPOVIC | Mon Jul 8th, 2013 PUSSY RIOT:'' PEOPLE AFRAID OF US BECAUSE WE ARE MARXIST.'' ... MANIK ... JULY ... 2013 ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: MAKING ART HISTORY
... WE DON'T THINK IT'S IMPORTANT HOW *THEY* ''DEFINE'' ROB'S STATUS IN ART HIERARCHY. ROB IS, IN EVERY CASE, NEW APPEARANCE IN ART WORLD AND, MAYBE BY MISTAKE, MAYBE WITH FULL KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THAT, *THEY* PUT THIS DEFINITION IN FRONT OF ROB. HE REALLY DEFINE HIS POSITION - IN ART WORLD, IN WORLD OF ART THEORY AND PRAXIS /IN ART HISTORY AS WELL /, IN WAY HE ACT AND EXISTING AS ARTIST. FINALLY, I THINK ROB SHOULD LIKE THAT CHARACTERIZATION OF HIS PERSON IN ''ART WORLD'' BECAUSE HE'S AVANTGUARDE OF SOMETHING WHAT IS ,REALLY, GOING TO CHANGE NAME AND PURPOSE. IN FEW WORDS: IT WON'T BE ''ART'' ANYMORE. MAYBE SOME KIND OF ''TECHNE'' BUT NOT NECESSARY UNDER THAT NAME ... MANIK ... JULY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: ruth catlow To: manik ; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2013 7:57 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] MAKING ART HISTORY but what do they mean "Rob Myers, self-defined artist"? On 03/07/2013 06:51, manik wrote: ... http://blog.maketank.it/2013/07/dadaist-warhol-3d-printing/ ...CONGRATULATIONS! ... MANIK... JULY ... 2013 ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] MAKING ART HISTORY
... http://blog.maketank.it/2013/07/dadaist-warhol-3d-printing/ ...CONGRATULATIONS! ... MANIK... JULY ... 2013 ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] WELCOME
... CROATIA - WELCOME IN UE ! ... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jasenovac_concentration_camp ... MANIK ... JULY ... 2013 ...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: HOBBY
...Oh! Art IS my hobby already, no doubt : no exhibition, no sale, no text about my art, no art production ... nothing ... So - question is not what I want ... It's about how that fact / my-art-as-my-hobby (for example I watch exhibitions on TV especially Koons with blue bowls and Hirst with all those nice dots,or Ai Weiwei with million chairs ... I look at all those nice art and think to my self:'' When I was artist, where was my intelligence, if I can, actually ask my self about stuff that maybe never existed before,not before-not now /my intelligence, I mean/ ...I ask my self where was my poor brain to make billions of dots like Yoyoy Kusama, or Hirst, to make proper art existention, to live in NYC,or Berlin, or London? Now my new position in Art World is evident and ambivalent. That's The Fact and not depend of my wish, or expectations/. How does that now influence and which kind of effect does that product in wider social context, micro and macro Art world, local, of course :-? ... ( For example - Artists association of Serbia / U.L.U.S / ; my health and pension insurance goes trough that institution, or association ; if I want to be honest man I should apply my new status and admit that I exist next to The Art World for few years as hobby artist and quit from all that benefits. If / just imagine / I get blood transfusion in moment when /hypothetical situation/ some 'professional artist' need that blood and, considered his position in Art hierarchy deserve that blood more than I as hobby artist / which is last blood in hospital, thought ...?/ ... Am I tricks? Is my art background good enough, even in in new hobby-st position, to take life to real, declared and accordance with that a certificate in Art World poor artist who need that blood? ... And beside he's '' proof '' ... Just imagine my moral confusion!!! It's not easy after thirty years of existing in body and mind of professional artist put whole life in new shape of some ''hobby-st''. Maybe I should sign my mail as ''MANIK HOBBY ARTIST''?... Or something like that? Maybe somebody from disassociated and indifferent Netbehaviour crowd could give me some advice? ... (HOBBY) MANIK ... JUNE ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: marc garrett To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] HOBBY only if yo want it to be ;-) ...My hobby became - not to make art. Is that art too?...MANIK ... JUNE ... 2013 ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- ---> A living - breathing - thriving networked neighbourhood - proud of free culture - claiming it with others ;) Other reviews,articles,interviews http://www.furtherfield.org/reviews.php Furtherfield - online arts community, platforms for creating, viewing, discussing and learning about experimental practices at the intersections of art, technology and social change. http://www.furtherfield.org Furtherfield Gallery - Finsbury Park (London). http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community. http://www.netbehaviour.org http://identi.ca/furtherfield http://twitter.com/furtherfield ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] HOBBY
...My hobby became - not to make art. Is that art too?...MANIK ... JUNE ... 2013 ... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] IF
... IF YOU COULD SODOMYZE - YOU COULD GOMORYZE ... MANIK ... JUNE ... 2013 ...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] GLICH
... GLICH COULDN'T BE KITSCH ( WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THAT, HONESLY ) ... MANIK ... JUN ... 2013 ...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] An Introduction to Radical Thinkers at the ICA
Slavoj Žižek couldn't be ''radical'' thinker. One who make simulacrum of radical thinking can't be radical thinker at same time. He is multiplied, but he's not in position to be his own tween *radical* brother - thinker, beside other ''really'' radical tween brother who is in deep shadow of his false-radical brother. Actually, nobody ever seen him. He's just a legend. ...MANIK ...MAY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: "netbehaviour" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 5:15 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] An Introduction to Radical Thinkers at the ICA An Introduction to Radical Thinkers at the ICA—Preliminary readings The following extracts, free to download, accompany An Introduction to Radical Thinkers: a fortnightly series of events at the Institute of Contemporary Arts (ICA), London. http://www.versobooks.com/blogs/1270-an-introduction-to-radical-thinkers-at-the-ica-preliminary-readings "Our groundbreaking Radical Thinkers series publishes beautifully designed and affordably priced editions of important works of theory and philosophy. From Adorno to Žižek, the series now exceeds 80 published titles and counts over 300,000 copies sold." You can see them all here - http://www.versobooks.com/series_collections/5-radical-thinkers ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] '' Time, Space and Existence ''
For '' la Biennale di Venezia 2013 '' GLOBAL ART AFFAIRS FOUNDATION / http://www.globalartaffairs.org/ / under original and extraordinary specific topic : '' Time, Space and Existence '' offer to us one wider selection where we could see recent names and po/i/ethics which are in focus of corporativ circles. What is going to be our '' time, space and existence '' in next few years? That's the task which is going to be solve in great exhibition under always obedient eye of curators from team ''PERSONAL STRUCTURES''. No doubt that they are 'persons', but we are not sure about structure. Maybe they are just body with external organs, which mean that their '' structure '' lie in other places. Long time we are def for ancknowlegment that under most of NGO teams beat one, corporative heart. In time of 60-is it was ''NATO - /h/ art '', in our '' time, space and existence '' ... that's something similar but under different name / to keep ''privacy'' from curios eyes /. Well, we know that, all of you know that we know that you know ... and nothing /'' That's the way things happened!''/. But beside, one bit strange idea ocurre our mind after that letter / about our '' time, space and existence ... '':'' Isn't it more illuminating for all of us to see the names of firm, bank, trust, corporation who pay expenses for exhibitions instead to try to remember names of artist all over the world, sometimes with strange names ... funny names ... etc. Names of artists are ephemeral and easy for replaceable ... As Eduardo Valle send the other day mail ''FINAZISM AND ART '' and finally bring some light in our obscure naivety ... We suggest that , in future, instead names of artist and curators simple and clear *they* put names of institutions who, actually, pay the way we should / or should and must ? / see our '' time, space and existence '' to be present in their world of '' Time is money!'' . Artist are not ones who make '' time, space and existence ...'', artist, in best case, confirm that divine *structure*... MANIK ... MAY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: n...@globalartaffairs.org To: ma...@sbb.rs Sent: Monday, May 13, 2013 5:57 PM Subject: PERSONAL STRUCTURES at 55th Venice Biennale 2013 - Palazzo Bembo - Rialto PERSONAL STRUCTURES 55th International Art Exhibition la Biennale di Venezia EXHIBITION TITLE PERSONAL STRUCTURES VENUEPalazzo Bembo (by Rialto bridge, on Canal Grande) LOCATION Riva del Carbon, San Marco 4785 - 30124, Venice, Italy ORGANIZERGLOBAL ART AFFAIRS FOUNDATION CURATORS Francesca Crudo, Sarah Gold, Carol Rolla & Valeria Romagnini OPENING PERIOD 1 June - 24 November 2013, open every day from 10 am to 6 pm, Closed on Tuesday WEBSITEwww.venice-exhibitions.org www.personalstructures.org www.globalartaffairs.org www.palazzobembo.org As part of the 55th International Art Exhibition - la Biennale di Venezia, PERSONAL STRUCTURES presents a large combination of established artists and artists whose practice is less well known. Coming from different parts of the world and expressing themselves in divers ways, what they have in common is a dedication to the concepts Time, Space and Existence. The exhibition is curated by Francesca Crudo, Sarah Gold, Carol Rolla and Valeria Romagnini. PERSONAL STRUCTURES is held at Venice's prestigious Palazzo Bembo, which overlooks the Grand Canal and is located near the Rialto Bridge. Each artist presents recent artworks, either site-specific, especially made for this exhibition, or coming directly from the artist's studio. Some rooms at Palazzo Bembo will be entirely dedicated to the presentation of single artists, while others will host a combination of projects and works. Their strong statements give each of the rooms a very specific atmosphere. The exhibition features a broad variety of artistic media, such as: videos, sculptures, paintings, photos, installations with light and performance. Since the participating artists originate from diverse cultures and are of very different age, Time, Space and Existence are highlighted from unusual points of view. PERSONAL STRUCTURES therefore stimulates a more conscious relation from the spectator towards his daily surrounding and aims to increase the awareness of their own personal Existence as human beings within a specific Space and Time. The following artists have been invited to be part of the exhibition: Chul Hyun Ahn (KOR), Yoshitaka Amano (JPN), Alice
Re: [NetBehaviour] Glitch As Symbolic Form
Text we could read here is one more example of Rob's extraordinary gift to wrote clear and deep at the same time. One who never herd for *glitch art* after that text could say than he know what's that all about :) That text, also, inspire us to think about our position in 'never-ending-now' which most people call time. Isn't it our / almost / duty to find our personal and intimate GLITCH (?) because assuredness that war and violence must be and stay only and irreplaceable way to keep world in 'living amplitude' mean keep up with attitude that ''mistake'' as aesthetic category must be or ''cultivate fake ignorance'' ( we are witnesses of new fashion who insist on ''childish'' painting and false naivety ), or it's '' no doubt '' corporativ art who serve only to make things bigger and more expensive, to make *spectacular* things! Instead of church, now corporativ ideology and their institutions take care about Anish sculpture, Koons work, Marina performance and Hirst butterfly ... This is sort of mega mental glitch without chance to became human art again and we 'mortal' people have nothing to do with that, even without irony - it's divine intrigue. So what's glitch art ? Its our right to find dark corner in our brain and see what's there without fear of consequences. Temptation's are horrible. Put on side of main-stream, without influence, money and always in mistrust we must exept our glitch not as ''I don't fucking care'' excuse to make stupid things, we should acccept our glitch as safe point in dark, point we could put our leg to make next step. Most of other calculation's are, actualy indulgence to post - neo - liberal butcher store and ideology who became day by day, more and more base for totalitarian society. ...MANIK ... MAY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2013 8:27 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Glitch As Symbolic Form Glitch as an aesthetic signifier of technological presence dates back at least to the 1980s. Look at The Vaught-Kampf machine in Blade Runner (1982) or the titular character in Max Headroom (1985). The use of Glitch use as an artistic aesthetic in itself has accelerated with the democratisation of technologies that make technology that prodcues glitches obsolescent. When a technology becomes redundant, its previous technical inefficiencies become available for aesthetic recuperation and appreciation. The hiss and crackle of vinyl records, to be ignored or reduced as far as possible by the mid-20th century audiophile, became signifiers of historical authenticity in 1990s Trip Hop. The lens flare, light seepage and colour shift of cheap mass-produced chemical film-based cameras have been turned from annoyances to fetishes with Lomography and Instagram. And the glitches of poor video connections or corrupted floppy disks have followed a similar path in Glitch art. This is a process of ironisation. Irony changes or inverts content without altering form. Meaning is introduced into systems by ironising non-signifying forms. It is modified and modulated by further ironising those forms. The glitches that once frustrated media professionals and home users of electronic meadia are ironised into aesthetic form in Glitch Art. Glitch Art sits in the historical tradition of process art and chance art. Automatism and chance acts in Dada, Surrealism, Situationism and the Oulipo. Scatter art. Generative and algorithmic art. And action painting, which provides the useful concept of "all-over composition" as a way of avoiding a requirement of specific, localisable intent in aesthetically evaluating an image. Glitch art also sits in the historical traditions of remix art,detournement and décollage. The knowledge that the image has been altered is key to its aesthetic reception. It's tempting to talk about the creative destruction of capitalism and to damn Glitch as neoliberal apologia, but that's too easy and would leave the speaker too comfortable. It is also very tempting to try and place Glitch Art within the traditions of anti-aesthetics or of nominalistic/found art, or to compare the use of image corruption to artistic outsourcing or crowdsourcing in terms of artistic abrogation of authorship. But Glitch is at least curated by the artist, and its generation requires an engagement with the specificity of digital media that they are not supposed to have. The Glitch artist is artisan, not manager, and Glitch art is sublime, not trial. Panofsky's extension of the idea of symbolic form to perspective can be applied to Glitch as form. Glitch is effect (a body of effects) that generates *critical* form. The patterns of noise or confoundi
Re: [NetBehaviour] on lying
...Lying belong to ethic area. Our director Emir Kusturica few days ago announce his new film about Kosovo Shiptars / West prefer to call them ''Albanians from Kosovo'' ... it's bullshit like calling Croat - Serbs from Croatia (!) /and crime they made by taking organs from live people, mostly Serbs and Romans, and sold them abroad. In that short interview he said that Hollywood didn't make good film about ex Yugoslavia civil war because they based those films on lye ( films with R.Gere, A.Jolie ... for example ... and several other less important). That's how art and lie make controversial, but very often political incorrect 'cooperation', or propaganda. Actually, lye in art is only arbitrary attempt to tell something about what's happened in past time no metter is story based on fact or on personal 'imagination'. Is there anybody who believe in every fact from story about Robin Hood? ... MANIK ... MARCH ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:16 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] on lying Hi y'all, Here is a short thing I wrote on lying: http://www.terminalapsu.org/2013/03/30/on-lying/ Best, Curt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Fw: there are facts in philosophy
Hi Michael, Your picture actualize ethic problem considered role of creative people in global social environment. After your explanation I can see better what was your intention / things are more complicated than it look on first sight /. Subversive acting trough art is on edge; sometimes it's more than subversion and became part of transcend, aesthetic, mental world of art. Often we are carefulness and under all kind of stress, and we forgot that 'moral right' which artist have as creative man/woman / to disturb and attack our habits trough art / is more important than our comfortable position of spectator. BTW. picture is painted very good:) Best MANIK - Original Message - From: Michael Szpakowski To: manik ; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2013 10:34 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Fw: there are facts in philosophy Hi Manik I would have thought you both might have appreciated the impetus behind a BIG STATEMENT IN CAPITAL LETTERS ( in fact it was only when I read your reply that I realised that a big subconscious influence on the piece was. M***K) You're absolutely right to observe the amount of effort that went into it - it is a painting in addition to whatever else it is. For the record I *do* think the status of Heidegger, as a huge influence on both artistic and philosophical discourse, remains an important and deeply problematic one. From "everybody knows" it can be a short distance to "everybody forgets". I don't think its anything to do with "forgiveness". The question of whether I ( or any one else for that matter) "forgive" Heidegger is neither here not there. Lastly, I absolutely agree that Nazi ideology remains a terrible threat - there was a feature on Golden Dawn, the Greek Nazi outfit, on channel 4 news the other night in which one of their MPs openly talked, laughing, of taking the gold teeth out of the mouths of immigrants and making soap and lampshades of their skin. your friend ( I hope) michael ------ From: manik To: netbehaviour Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2013 11:36 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Fw: there are facts in philosophy ...We couldn't understand why we have in front of our eyes so hard labor to describe Heidegger nazi background (source Wikipedia, thanks Annie! ). We don't know educated man who haven't heard for that fact about his life and work. Is this the fact who help us to think that history exist in shape we / but who are 'we'; one who are closse to power (?), or 'we' who fight agains nazi 60 years ago?/.We always get answer in key of politics coretnes and closse eyes toward actual happening in EU? How came Bill Clinton have only part of one sentence considered his role in NATO war against Serbia 1999 / Main Subject - USA was lider, of course / in which is just kind of observer.That's happened in same Wikipedia who describe Heidegger as 'fellow traveler' considered his role in nazi party ? How came Hana Arent forgiwe Heidegger but 'we' can't forgive him? What's the reason 'we' re-actualise Hedegger's nazi membership? Is that cover of sad truth that nazism IS winer( after 60 years - yes! ) but it's wining ideology in West civisation /Bulgaria,Poland,Romania send huge number of workers in Germany and that's why they survive in EU /.That's only one examply in number of similar significant sign who give us correct diagram of intercorses in EU. We know who is boss! Is there any goal /except conquare Rusia / they, nazi, didn't reach? German is leading nation in Europe and their word is decisive for every question in economy in EU, and more So, Hedegger left us his philosophy and his politics wrong judgement, but nazi as active and liding ideology is live, rich and well ... MANIK ... MARCH ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: Annie Abrahams To: Michael Szpakowski Cc: netbehaviour Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] there are facts in philosophy Often I prefer paintings to words, not this time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidegger_and_Nazism The relationship between the German philosopher Martin Heidegger and Nazism is a controversial subject. Heidegger joined the Nazi Party (NSDAP) on May 1, 1933, ten days after being elected Rector of the University of Freiburg. A year later, in April 1934, he resigned the Rectorship and stopped taking part in Nazi Party meetings, but remained a member of the Party until its dismantling at the end of World War II. Heidegger had held high hopes of reforming the university system with the help of Nazism as a Conservative Revolution, but, by the
[NetBehaviour] Fw: there are facts in philosophy
...We couldn't understand why we have in front of our eyes so hard labor to describe Heidegger nazi background (source Wikipedia, thanks Annie! ). We don't know educated man who haven't heard for that fact about his life and work. Is this the fact who help us to think that history exist in shape we / but who are 'we'; one who are closse to power (?), or 'we' who fight agains nazi 60 years ago?/.We always get answer in key of politics coretnes and closse eyes toward actual happening in EU? How came Bill Clinton have only part of one sentence considered his role in NATO war against Serbia 1999 / Main Subject - USA was lider, of course / in which is just kind of observer.That's happened in same Wikipedia who describe Heidegger as 'fellow traveler' considered his role in nazi party ? How came Hana Arent forgiwe Heidegger but 'we' can't forgive him? What's the reason 'we' re-actualise Hedegger's nazi membership? Is that cover of sad truth that nazism IS winer( after 60 years - yes! ) but it's wining ideology in West civisation /Bulgaria,Poland,Romania send huge number of workers in Germany and that's why they survive in EU /.That's only one examply in number of similar significant sign who give us correct diagram of intercorses in EU. We know who is boss! Is there any goal /except conquare Rusia / they, nazi, didn't reach? German is leading nation in Europe and their word is decisive for every question in economy in EU, and more So, Hedegger left us his philosophy and his politics wrong judgement, but nazi as active and liding ideology is live, rich and well ... MANIK ... MARCH ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: Annie Abrahams To: Michael Szpakowski Cc: netbehaviour Sent: Wednesday, March 06, 2013 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] there are facts in philosophy Often I prefer paintings to words, not this time. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidegger_and_Nazism The relationship between the German philosopher Martin Heidegger and Nazism is a controversial subject. Heidegger joined the Nazi Party (NSDAP) on May 1, 1933, ten days after being elected Rector of the University of Freiburg. A year later, in April 1934, he resigned the Rectorship and stopped taking part in Nazi Party meetings, but remained a member of the Party until its dismantling at the end of World War II. Heidegger had held high hopes of reforming the university system with the help of Nazism as a Conservative Revolution, but, by the end of the War, had become expendable and was even prevented from teaching. The denazification hearings immediately after World War II led to Heidegger's dismissal from Freiburg, banning him from teaching; after several years of investigation, the French military finally classified Heidegger in 1949 as a Mitläufer or Nazi follower (Mitläufer : person who gives into peer pressure without participation nor resistance nor inner conviction, unlike a fellow traveler, literally "with-runner" similar to "lemming-like"). The teaching ban was lifted in 1951 and he was granted emeritus status in 1953, but he was never allowed to resume his philosophy chair. His involvement with Nazism and the relation between his philosophy and National Socialism are still highly controversial, especially because he never apologized nor expressed regret,[1] except privately when he called his rectorship and the related political engagement "the greatest stupidity of his life" (die größte Dummheit seines Lebens).[2] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidegger_et_le_nazisme On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 5:48 PM, Michael Szpakowski wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/8534703986/in/photostream cheers michael ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: NA and Intentionality
... SIGNS V.S IMAGES - WORDS V.S SENSE ... TIME V.S MONEY ... SEPARATION, NOT AMALGATION ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Monday, February 25, 2013 9:48 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] NA and Intentionality On 23/02/13 03:08, Patrick Lichty wrote: > It seems > that NA is an ongoing reflection upon the continuum of control over the > generation of the image, our beliefs regarding its aesthetics, and what > the > intentions or politics are behind the creation of the New Aesthetic image. "The generation of the image" covers a multitude of sins: these images are phenomena generated by political processes (including economic and military ones) with a common core in totalizing digital command and control. They are signs... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: I am free too
... BECAUSE YOU WROTE ''FREE'' INSTEAD FREE ... THAT'S FUNNY ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: Eduardo Valle To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 3:41 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too I wonder why the people make jokes when hear the words "free" software ... From: mark.r.hanc...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 23 Feb 2013 13:00:36 + To: szp...@yahoo.com; netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too Free Ruth Catlows for the price of fun? On 23 Feb 2013, at 12:56, Michael Szpakowski wrote: -- From: ruth catlow To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 12:35 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too I am free, two, one! On 22/02/2013 15:40, James Morris wrote: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UxCOP22vus > > > > > > On 22/02/13 Eduardo Valle wrote: >> Moore , Intel DICTATORSHIP and Programmed obsolescence told me that >> You F(R) EE . Thats Why more and more there is descredit and jokes >> about the the very free software movement. But Thats ok let them be >> the same as others that advocates for Internet and Freedom ... >> Probabilidade they are the same ... Rob, UK is not part of EUROPE ? >> Island mentality... The British Emp?re and the fans Monarchy and the >> Queen... ?t. Least that in Brasil does not exist as Strong as in >> EUROPE ... >> >>> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:31:44 + >>> From: r...@robmyers.org >>> To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too >>> >>> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:19:56 +, ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: >>>> Don't forget me too! Free! To be ignored! To be dismissed! These >>>> are my freedoms! I earnt them! My data on this is open! >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljbcRu3tiU >>> >>> - Rob. >>> >>> ___ >>> NetBehaviour mailing list >>> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >>> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour >> > ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: ''NON - FREE''
... THERE'S NO ANSWER WITHOUT QUESTION ... THERE'S NO ''FREEDOM'' WITHOUT OPOSITE OF FREEDOM ... IF YOU HAVE ANSWER, WE HOPE IT'S FREE TO TELL US ... IF YOU DO THAT - NOBEL PRICE'S FOR YOUR RESEARCH TEAM IS ON HORIZON ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: "Bjørn Magnhildøen" To: "manik" ; "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2013 11:48 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ''NON - FREE'' > what if freedom is a death drive - do you go for it or not? > and you better not be bound by your answer, nor the question > > On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 11:28 AM, manik wrote: >> ... MANIK DON'T THINK THAT ROB WANT ONLY HIS PERSONAL FREEDOM ... BUT >> WHAT >> IF *WE* NEUTRALIZE CORPORATE PEOPLE TO TAKE OUR FREEDOM, WE MAKE THEM NOT >> FREE ( TO DO WHAT THEY USE TO DO )?... IS ''NON - FREE'' STATE IMMANENT >> TO >> HUMAN RACE? ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... >> >> ___ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] ''NON - FREE''
... MANIK DON'T THINK THAT ROB WANT ONLY HIS PERSONAL FREEDOM ... BUT WHAT IF *WE* NEUTRALIZE CORPORATE PEOPLE TO TAKE OUR FREEDOM, WE MAKE THEM NOT FREE ( TO DO WHAT THEY USE TO DO )?... IS ''NON - FREE'' STATE IMMANENT TO HUMAN RACE? ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] NOT FREE
... MANIK CAN'T BE FREE BECAUSE HE WROTE BYRD INSTEAD BIRD ... IS THERE ANY WAY FOR HIM TO MAKE ANY SUCCESS WITHOUT KNOWING ENGLISH ? ... MAYBE FOR HIM TO BE FREE MEAN TO BE SUCCESSFUL ... BE 'FREE' MEAN TO BE IN POSITION TO OPEN ONE DOOR TO GET CHANCE FOR BE IN POSITION TO OPEN ANOTHER DOOR ... WANT TO BE FREE, IN SOCIAL SPACE, IS ARTIFICIAL NEED ... BE FREE IS KIND OF BELIEF ... NOT NECESSARILY PROFITABLY, BUT NOT NECESSARILY BAD ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] FREE PEOPLE
... MANIK WONDER IS THERE ANY MORE FREE PEOPLE ? ... IT'S GOOD TO KNOW FOR THOSE RARE BYRDS ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: I am free too
... JAMES IS FREE MORE THAN TWO DAYS ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: "James Morris" To: Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UxCOP22vus On 22/02/13 Eduardo Valle wrote: >Moore , Intel DICTATORSHIP and Programmed obsolescence told me that >You F(R) EE . Thats Why more and more there is descredit and jokes >about the the very free software movement. But Thats ok let them be >the same as others that advocates for Internet and Freedom ... >Probabilidade they are the same ... Rob, UK is not part of EUROPE ? >Island mentality... The British Empíre and the fans Monarchy and the >Queen... Át. Least that in Brasil does not exist as Strong as in >EUROPE ... > >> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:31:44 + >> From: r...@robmyers.org >> To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too >> >> On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:19:56 +, ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: >> > Don't forget me too! Free! To be ignored! To be dismissed! These >> > are my freedoms! I earnt them! My data on this is open! >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljbcRu3tiU >> >> - Rob. >> >> ___ >> NetBehaviour mailing list >> NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org >> http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > -- http://jwm-art.net/ image/audio/text/code/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: I am free too
... IT SEEMS TO ME EDUARDO IS FREE ... TO ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: Eduardo Valle To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:07 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too Moore , Intel DICTATORSHIP and Programmed obsolescence told me that You F(R) EE . Thats Why more and more there is descredit and jokes about the the very free software movement. But Thats ok let them be the same as others that advocates for Internet and Freedom ... Probabilidade they are the same ... Rob, UK is not part of EUROPE ? Island mentality... The British Empíre and the fans Monarchy and the Queen... Át. Least that in Brasil does not exist as Strong as in EUROPE ... > Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2013 12:31:44 + > From: r...@robmyers.org > To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too > > On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:19:56 +, ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: > > Don't forget me too! Free! To be ignored! To be dismissed! These are > > my freedoms! I earnt them! My data on this is open! > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljbcRu3tiU > > - Rob. > > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Fw: I am free too
... NO DOUBT! ... ROB MYERS IS FREE ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 1:31 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I am free too On Fri, 22 Feb 2013 05:19:56 +, ja...@jwm-art.net wrote: > Don't forget me too! Free! To be ignored! To be dismissed! These are > my freedoms! I earnt them! My data on this is open! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yljbcRu3tiU - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] New Digital Culture Unit @ Goldsmiths
... FREE New Digital Culture ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... <>___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] HERE/THERE
...FREE HERE/THERE ... OCCUPY BLACK/WHITE ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... <<69635_469838919750185_927631965_n.jpg>>___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] POPE
... FREE POPE ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... <<579812_469823393085071_30381850_n.jpg>>___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] FREE
... FREE MANIK ... MANIK ... FEBRUARY ... 2013 ... <<487665_469812476419496_207359582_n.jpg>>___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] WOODEN BIKE
...WORLD WITHOUT WOODEN BIKE IS NOT COMPLETE...MANIK...JANUARY...2013...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] ROYAL MAIL
...FREE ROYAL MAIL...MANIK...JANUARY...2013...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] FREE PAST
...FREE PAST ! HITLER IS GOOD GUY BECAUSE HE KILL HITLER...MANIK...JANUARY...2013...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] THAT
...THAT NEVER LOOK LIKE SOMETHING ELSE...MANIK...JANUARY...2013...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Links
This work remind on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Tinguely .It's nice to see something so funny and scary! Happy New Year to all! ...MANIK...DECEMBER...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Monday, December 31, 2012 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Links > On Mon, 31 Dec 2012 13:46:16 +0100, Antonio wrote: >> >> thanks a lot for your updates >> just one thing, you posted twice the same link: > > Oops! Thank you for catching that. It should have been: > > "The New Artist" - > > http://www.the-new-artist.info/ > > Happy new year! > > - Rob. > > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] spicy sausage pasta
..THIS IS ''BUCHNO OLJE''AND IT'S GOOD FOR PROSTATE...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012... - Original Message - From: "Simon Biggs" To: ; "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Cc: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] spicy sausage pasta Slovenia is a great place for roast pumpkin oil. They make it up on the mountains along with sav blanc that gives Marlborough a run for its money... The co-director of Kibla's uncle makes mean versions of both! Sent from a mobile device, thus the brevity. Simon Biggs si...@littlepig.org.uk s.bi...@ed.ac.uk http://www.littlepig.org.uk On 25 Oct 2012, at 18:31, helen varley jamieson wrote: pumpkinseed oil (kurbiskernöl) is the most amazing oil for drizzling onto salads & just about anything else that you want to add a good nutty flavour to - including ice cream! & if you are in austria you can buy kurbiskernöl potato chips (crisps) & these are really some kind of taste heaven ... :) On 25/10/12 4:08 PM, Aymeric Mansoux wrote: > pro tip: cook with rice oil and invest in very good oil(s) (olive, > argan, pumpkin seed, sesame, etc) to flavour food once cooked with just > a few drops. > > Simon Biggs said : >> Depends on the olive oil. There's oil for cooking and oil for drizzling. >> >> best >> >> Simon >> >> >> On 25 Oct 2012, at 13:13, dave miller wrote: >> >>> I think you shouldnt really cook with olive oil, add it once the food is >>> cooked >>> dave >>> >>> On 25 October 2012 13:07, Simon Biggs wrote: >>>> I'd question the use of mushrooms and the lid. Also, avoid adding cold >>>> olive >>>> oil to cooking food - it makes it greasy. Add raw ingredients to hot >>>> oil >>>> and, preferably, heat the bare pan before adding the oil. >>>> >>>> best >>>> >>>> Simon >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25 Oct 2012, at 12:57, James Morris wrote: >>>> >>>> spicy sausage pasta >>>> >>>> ingrediethod >>>> >>>> 3 x chilli sausages fry in pan with olive oil >>>> lemon drop chilli choped thrown in pan >>>> more olive oil because everything burn/stick >>>> garlic chopped throw in pan >>>> jalepno chilli chopped throw in pan >>>> more olive oil because everything burn/stick >>>> cillegia chilli chopped throw in pan >>>> white onion chopped throw in pan >>>> several mushrooms chopped throw in pan >>>> remove sausages when partly cooked and chop them back into pan >>>> small tin of chopped tomatos in juice in pan >>>> several cherry tomatos chopped in pan >>>> sprinkling of salt in pan >>>> sprinkling of ground pepper in pan >>>> chop herbs from garden and put in pan >>>> lid on >>>> put new pan filled with water on top heat >>>> wait for boilling >>>> write recipe on facebook >>>> decide not to put on facebook after all but email to inappropriate >>>> mailing >>>> list instead >>>> put pasta in boiling water >>>> wait for cooked >>>> eat >>>> go to work >>>> >>>> -- helen varley jamieson: creative catalyst he...@creative-catalyst.com http://www.creative-catalyst.com http://www.make-shift.net http://www.upstage.org.nz ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] SAUSAGE
...Are there in song some sexual insinuation?:)...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 9:36 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] SAUSAGE On 10/25/2012 07:11 PM, manik wrote: > - Original Message ----- > *From:* manik <mailto:ma...@ptt.yu> > *To:* l...@rhizome.org <mailto:l...@rhizome.org> > *Sent:* Friday, February 04, 2005 9:32 PM > *Subject:* RHIZOME_RAW: ELECTRIC SAUSAGE > > */\/\//\/\/\/\//\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/* > **/>>>/*/DIGITAL/*SAUSAGE*<<<* > *\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\/\//\/\/\/* :-D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZZ_J4A4X9Q - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] SAUSAGE
- Original Message - From: manik To: l...@rhizome.org Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:32 PM Subject: RHIZOME_RAW: ELECTRIC SAUSAGE /\/\//\/\/\/\//\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ >>>DIGITALSAUSAGE<<< \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\//\/\/\//\/\/\/___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Again - none of us in ArtReview's Power 100 list
...BANKER WHO USE TO WALK NAKED IN HIS YARD:)...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012... - Original Message - From: To: "manik" ; "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 1:42 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Again - none of us in ArtReview's Power 100 list > William Blake was a fat-cat banker! > > Sent using BlackBerry® from Orange > > -Original Message- > From: "manik" > Sender: netbehaviour-boun...@netbehaviour.org > Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 13:23:50 > To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed > creativity > Reply-To: manik , >NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity > > Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Again - none of us in ArtReview's Power 100 > list > > ...OR ''CORPORATIVE VISIONARIES''?...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012... > - Original Message - > From: "dave miller" > To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" > > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:17 AM > Subject: [NetBehaviour] Again - none of us in ArtReview's Power 100 list > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/oct/18/artreview-power-100-list-world > > "dominated by visionaries" > > Maybe the furtherfield gallery will be in there next year? Or better > we make our own list? > > dave > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour > ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Again - none of us in ArtReview's Power 100 list
...OR ''CORPORATIVE VISIONARIES''?...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012... - Original Message - From: "dave miller" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2012 10:17 AM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Again - none of us in ArtReview's Power 100 list http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/oct/18/artreview-power-100-list-world "dominated by visionaries" Maybe the furtherfield gallery will be in there next year? Or better we make our own list? dave ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] THE BEST
...THIS IS THE BEST I CAN MAKE THIS MOMENT...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] WORKING CLASS HERO
... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziwsjE1O4Ow&feature=relmfu ...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] CONCEPTUAL DOG
- Original Message - From: manik To: netbehaviour Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:17 PM Subject: CONCEPTUAL DOG conceptualartconcconceptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualrtconceptualarconceptuala conceptualartconcconceptu alarteptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualrtconceptualarconceptua conceptualartconcconc eptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualart conceptualrtconceptualarconcept conceptualartconc conceptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptual artconceptualrtconceptualarcon conceptualartco ncconceptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptualartconce oalartconceptualrtconc conceptualartc oncconceptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptualartco ptualartconceptualrtconcep conceptualart concepualarteptualartconceptualaconceptualartonce ptu lartconceptualrtconcep conceptualartconceptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptu eptualrtconceptualarconceptualac conceptualartco t conceptualaconcconceptualaconc cconceptualartept conceptualrtconceptualarconcept onceptualartconc conceptualrtconceptualarconceptu conceptualartconc conceptualrtconceptualarconceptual conceptualartconc conceptualrtconceptualarconceptualac conceptualartco nce alarteptualartconceptualartc ptualartconceptualartconceptualrtconcept conceptualart concc eptualarteptualartconceptualartc ceptu alartconceptualartconceptualrtconceptual conceptualart concconcptualarteptualartconceptualartconc ptuala rtconceptualartconceptualrtconceptualarc conceptualart concconce ptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptualar tconceptualartconceptualrtconceptualarc conceptualartc oncconceptualarteptualartconceptualartconc eptualartco nceptualartconceptualrtconceptualarco conceptualartc oncconcept ualarteptualartconceptualart conceptualartc onceptualartconceptualrtconceptual conceptualartconcconceptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualrtconceptualarconceptual conceptualartconcconceptualarteptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualartconceptualrtconceptualarconceptual ...MANIK...11.8.2005...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] MANIK INTERNATIONAL UNION
Thanks Alen, This days we try to put together MANIKS works made in new media.'MANIK INTERNATIONAL UNION' was in Caterina Davinio selection in Bienale de Venezia /2007,I think/,but not in 'original' version as we can see here.We find few works could be interesting for re-presentation on Netbehaviour.Well see... Beside,yes,elections in USA are here!We've forget that fact:) Best wishes MANIK - Original Message - From: "Alan Sondheim" To: "manik" ; "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 4:52 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] MANIK INTERNATIONAL UNION > > > This is just amazing! I love the twisting and fury; here in the USA with > the elections coming up, I think I should bury myself upside. > > == > blog: http://nikuko.blogspot.com/ (main blog) > email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 347-383-8552 > music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ > current text http://www.alansondheim.org/rq.txt > == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] CONCEPTUAL DOG
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[NetBehaviour] Fw: FREE TAX
Free art @ lessiseasier.net Le 10 oct. 2012 à 08:44, "manik" a écrit : ...FREE TAX FOR HIRST&WEIWEI...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour - Original Message - From: Choubard To: manik ; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:19 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] FREE TAX Free art @ lessiseasier.net Le 10 oct. 2012 à 08:44, "manik" a écrit : ...FREE TAX FOR HIRST&WEIWEI...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] FREE TAX
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[NetBehaviour] FREE ANGELA
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[NetBehaviour] FREE VLADIMIR UMANETS
...Free 26-Year-Old Vladimir Umanets...MANIK...OCTOBER...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Pop Mantra #4 (Rain Down On Me): Documentation
Hi, Last hour of your performance was the best,you became one thing/sound/ with guitar.Very,very good! (Of course,last hour is result of previous 10:!) MANIK...SEPTEMBER...2012... - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Monday, September 24, 2012 7:11 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Pop Mantra #4 (Rain Down On Me): Documentation Here is video documentation of my recent 8 hour blindfold performance: http://deepyoung.org/current/rain/ Best, Curt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] THE WORKING CLASS LOVE NEOPLASTICISM 1
Hi James, There's double negative particle(gram.) in Serbian language/for example;it's usual to say,on Serbian-"I don't have nothing.''/that mean,considered English,that I/or somebody/don't have nothing-he have something(but it's clear,for ones who talk Serbian that Subject who speak really have nothing). So,when you say ;"I have nothing..."it's clear that you possess 'nothing'. So,when MANIK put workers in sexual relationship in front of some picture who refer on neoplasticism,he/MANIK/act according rule in his/Serbian/grammar.In that logic neither workers fuck each other,neither they love neoplasticism,but in some different grammar/theory/it's possible to do that/both/. That's how MANIK put things together/sometimes/. Later on we shall manipulate with complete different logic,grammar or philosophical contents to show plural of /workers and wider/ issue...There's one goal behind that action:MANIK wish to examine using different methods possibility to act efficiency using jagged and rich possibility of art/techne/. ...MANIK...AUGUST...2012... - Original Message - From: "James Morris" To: Cc: "manik" Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] THE WORKING CLASS LOVE NEOPLASTICISM 1 > On 16/08/12 "manik" wrote: >> >> >>...THE WORKING CLASS LOVE NEOPLASTICISM...MANIK...AUGUST...2012... > > do we fuck. > ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] two paintings
Ontology-where's artist in membrane between two worlds/two in one/?Where's spectator in perspective of art?What's Object and what is Subject of that transparency?Gesture show border between being and infinity/that is Angels flight(dance)/...MANIK...AUGUST...2012... - Original Message - From: Michael Szpakowski To: netbehaviour Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:38 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] two paintings painting after a photograph by jake longstreth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/7794505146/in/photostream geraniums on the afternoon of 14th august 2012: http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/7794514348/in/photostream/ cheers m. -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] THE WORKING CLASS LOVE NEOPLASTICISM 1
...DO YOU?.../:-/...MANIK...AUGUST...2012... - Original Message - From: "James Morris" To: Cc: "manik" Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2012 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] THE WORKING CLASS LOVE NEOPLASTICISM 1 > On 16/08/12 "manik" wrote: >> >> >>...THE WORKING CLASS LOVE NEOPLASTICISM...MANIK...AUGUST...2012... > > do we fuck. > ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] on a boat
Your drawings possess quality /a bit rare/;mental readiness to go into new /discipline/and natural gift to express trough that discipline.Result is always on edge to set in motion many questions relevant to 'art world' today-here and now.What's necessary to be a 'good in drawing','painting'...etc.Is that old fashioned ' overcome of formal level'/?/,or it's personal courage to come 'face to face' with discipline,put in front of 'professional eye' results of personal adventure/in drawing/and be *cool*,because there's no lie,there's no bad acting in that undertaking...In front of our eye are,yours- Michaels,drawing-as precious gift to 'reality' which is just another name for common exertion to put some spirit of personal courage and gift in matter called 'art'. Best MANIK - Original Message - From: Michael Szpakowski To: netbehaviour Sent: Monday, August 13, 2012 11:16 AM Subject: [NetBehaviour] on a boat http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/sets/72157631039924672/ cheers michael -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] MANIK ALIVE 51
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[NetBehaviour] L'IMPOSSIBLE
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Links
...http://www.scribd.com/doc/47820892/L-Impossible-Nemogu%C4%87e ...L'IMPOSSIBLE - New Aesthetic Magazine,Belgrade ,1930...The New God creation...MANIK...MAY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Links > On Fri, 11 May 2012 08:12:05 +0100, ruth catlow wrote: >> Thanks Rob, >> >> I agree. Well worth the read. An illuminating article after all the >> "clopping" ; ) >> >> Though even in this account the machines are imbued with agency and >> autonomy - strangely disconnected from natural and (human) political >> and >> economic forces that drive technological developments. > > Manuel de Landa aside, Charlesworth describes: > > "...this fantasy of machine agency that seems to lurk in the New > Aesthetic’s enthusiasm..." > > the machines do move, he writes: > > "...but only because humans have deployed them to do so..." > > Crucially: > > "The New Aesthetics is a demand-side aesthetics. It doesn’t matter who > transmits, only what is received. Say Sterling: > > ‘Valorizing machine-generated imagery is like valorizing the > unconscious mind. Like Surrealist imagery, it is cool, weird, > provocative, suggestive, otherworldly, but it is also impoverished.’ > > It may seem impoverished, but without a more robust concept of the > creative, initiating human subject, it is also an accurate reflection of > the current condition." > > This is politically and philosophically damning, but not for TNA: for > its chosen subjects. > > The TNA tumblr was *visual rhetoric*. It very successfully demonstrated > the quantitatively distinct current historical moment of pervasive > digital distortion of the real. To ask it to do something else is to ask > it to be less successful at what it did. And if it had been less > successful at what it did, we wouldn't all be arguing about it. We > cannot exhaustively replace new pictures with old texts. > > The messenger is now so filled with lead that we could use him as a > pencil. So let's write. > > - Rob. > > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] the 4th search...
...MAN!MANIK TALK ABOUT ONE WORD AND ONE 'COINCIDENCE'...PUT YOUR SELF TOGETHER...please :-D..MANIK...MAY...2012... - Original Message - From: Sebastian Elk To: manik Cc: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity ; regist...@deepyoung.org ; coldba...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] the 4th search... Manik, Later we built this, we misunderstood and built this. But then that doesn't answer your sequence. As intended you are implying the planes that land in Lincoln, Nebraska will be too late for any of the passengers to avoid losing three months to immediate choices with the color blue dimming enough for grain prices to raise. These are only current projects and their implications cone out considerably. But I doubt you intended any of that, as there are sequences in your words that are either entirely without or such contradictions as to be impossible given the current physics of things. I will give you a small increase, but will watch you with concern. cheers, Sebastian. On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 4:12 PM, manik wrote: Same time we've/MANIK/ put our comment on one fb.post(...ANNIHILATION...INDIFFERENCE...ETHIC/AESTHETIC 'FAST FOOD'...NICE PINK BABY AND PIECES OF DEAD BODY ARE THE SAME IN SCOPE OF 'NEW RIDERS ON THE PURPLE SAGE'-HIS MAJESTY ''THE META CONSUMER''...MANIK...MAY...2012),Alan Sondheim put his text on Netbehaviour,part of this text:''LIGHTS FLOOR CHAIRS 1996 no ..t... th... i. non. th... i. no ..t... annihilation to th. Th... a.. all th. a...ntin. .i.ni.i..., annihilation., o. lo.. in .- i.on o. .o..l.t. annihilation. It i. th. thin. o. ...hani.., thin. o. o. .a, o. .a, annihilation, an. la.. - o. ..lln..., ...ation, an. .o.. on. .ho ha. .on. to annihilation. I ... no .oo. in thi.."); .o..th, a..ol.t. annihilation o... a ...a..at.. a..a. W. .no. ..o. Ch..no..l in ton - .. t..t. a.. a .tain ..on .n.., annihilation /.../etc./A.Sondheim:LIGHTS FLOOR CHAIRS,4. maj 2012 9:06/ It's too unusual /that word as theme in same time/we talking about minutes/,published in two social spaces ,without any insight in intentions,deal or sign from 'other side' ...We thought it's better to keep that as our souvenir in our 'coincidence' imaginary 'Museum'.But;Curt send his post and it was 'sign' that we should keep our 'ghost from bottle'. COINCIDENCE OR RULE?THAT IS THE QUESTION. ...MANIK...MAY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Curt Cloninger" To: "Sebastian Elk" <4thsea...@gmail.com> Cc: ; ; Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] the 4th search... http://cabinetmagazine.org/issues/28/foer.php http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j99oAuQ81qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3jadcTkgp1qb58eqo1_400.jpg http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3jao192co1qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j99epNiq1qb58eqo1_500.jpg http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j98w4XhW1qb58eqo1_400.jpg http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j97vthLU1qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j970EXd51qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j96ny3kZ1qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j95zOCLP1qb58eqo1_1280.png http://livingproofmag.com/mag/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/monster-book-cover.jpg , curt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] the 4th search...
Same time we've/MANIK/ put our comment on one fb.post(...ANNIHILATION...INDIFFERENCE...ETHIC/AESTHETIC 'FAST FOOD'...NICE PINK BABY AND PIECES OF DEAD BODY ARE THE SAME IN SCOPE OF 'NEW RIDERS ON THE PURPLE SAGE'-HIS MAJESTY ''THE META CONSUMER''...MANIK...MAY...2012),Alan Sondheim put his text on Netbehaviour,part of this text:''LIGHTS FLOOR CHAIRS 1996 no ..t... th... i. non. th... i. no ..t... annihilation to th. Th... a.. all th. a...ntin. .i.ni.i..., annihilation., o. lo.. in .- i.on o. .o..l.t. annihilation. It i. th. thin. o. ...hani.., thin. o. o. .a, o. .a, annihilation, an. la.. - o. ..lln..., ...ation, an. .o.. on. .ho ha. .on. to annihilation. I ... no .oo. in thi.."); .o..th, a..ol.t. annihilation o... a ...a..at.. a..a. W. .no. ..o. Ch..no..l in ton - .. t..t. a.. a .tain ..on .n.., annihilation /.../etc./A.Sondheim:LIGHTS FLOOR CHAIRS,4. maj 2012 9:06/ It's too unusual /that word as theme in same time/we talking about minutes/,published in two social spaces ,without any insight in intentions,deal or sign from 'other side' ...We thought it's better to keep that as our souvenir in our 'coincidence' imaginary 'Museum'.But;Curt send his post and it was 'sign' that we should keep our 'ghost from bottle'. COINCIDENCE OR RULE?THAT IS THE QUESTION. ...MANIK...MAY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Curt Cloninger" To: "Sebastian Elk" <4thsea...@gmail.com> Cc: ; ; Sent: Saturday, May 05, 2012 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] the 4th search... http://cabinetmagazine.org/issues/28/foer.php http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j99oAuQ81qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3jadcTkgp1qb58eqo1_400.jpg http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3jao192co1qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j99epNiq1qb58eqo1_500.jpg http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j98w4XhW1qb58eqo1_400.jpg http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j97vthLU1qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j970EXd51qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j96ny3kZ1qb58eqo1_1280.jpg http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3j95zOCLP1qb58eqo1_1280.png http://livingproofmag.com/mag/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/monster-book-cover.jpg , curt ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] May Day greetings
...WE THOUGHT NOBODY'S GOING TO MENTION THIS DAY...NO METER IS THERE OR ISN'T THERE 'WORKERS' AND 'WORKING CLASS'-WORK STILL EXIST/?/...OR NOT/!?/...MANIK...1.MAY...2012... - Original Message - From: Michael Szpakowski To: netbehaviour Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 4:20 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] May Day greetings Comrade Lenin is sweeping rubbish from the world: -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Edvard Munch's own film recordings
...When we have opportunity to see how was Munch's excitement in making movie our extension trough time became more richer...We never thought Munch could make movie!!!...Thank's...MANIK...APRIL...2012... - Original Message - From: "marc garrett" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 1:40 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Edvard Munch's own film recordings Edvard Munch's own film recordings http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ6Hl7DeIdU&feature=share# The Painter with a Movie Camera It was quite a surprise when a moving picture camera was brought to the Munch Museum several years ago. It was a so-called Pathé-Baby with a 9,5 mm. film cassette and a projector in a specially made traveller's case. The advanced traveller's camera was said to have belonged to Edvard Munch, a fact confirmed by a viewing of the four accompanying films, which had originally been developed at Nerlien's in Oslo. In connection with Munch's exhibition of Honour at the National Gallery in Berlin in the spring of 1927 he went on an extended trip to the Continent, during which he also visited Dresden before returning to Oslo in May. One of the cassette films were taken in Dresden, the other three in Oslo and Aker. All the shots seem to be from that summer. The film from Dresden can be identified through the shots from the Schlossplatz overlooking the river Elbe and of the equestrian statue of the Saxon King Albert. This is obviously Munch's first experiment in cinema; and the film consists mainly of brief sequences from the centre of the city. Munch seems to have been fascinated by the street life. The camera has captured tramways, cars and horsedrawn carriages running in all directions, dwelling on the crowd of people passing in the street, and focussing on a man and woman laboriously shifting a cart. It is characteristic of the reel that most people have their backs turned, suggesting that they were unaware of being filmed; Munch probably sought out places from where he could film in secret. The next film was mainly taken in the garden of Ekely, where Munch's old terrier is lying in the sunshine. Munch thought, according to Christian Gierløff, that 'the soul of an old wise man had taken place in the dog'. The film sweeps over the landscape anc captures a building in the neighbourhood. The next scene is of Dronningparken, and then from in front of the Palace, but most of the film was taken at and around Karl Johan Street, where he stood outside Kirkeristen filming the busy street life. Munch filmed people rushing about and cars passing by, panning through 180 degrees. He seems to have wanted to capture the pulse of life by moving the camera. He also created contrasting scenes: He stops at a menu-card at the entrance of a restaurant, just as he stops at an oil and colour shop to film the display through the window. The fourth film shows, in sweeping movements, parts of Solveien at Nordstrand, where his aunt and his sister lived. Inger's statuesque figure is seen and in a brief moment the head of his aunt fills out the whole picture. A longer close-up sequence of a fence rail is taken with an "Impressionist" approach. The last part of the film is of Munch himself at the foot of the stairs at Ekely. Munch enters from the right, approaches the lens, bends down and gazes directly into the lens. After this he gets up and walks slowly out of the picture. Parts of his body -- for instance, a longer shot of his jacket with his handkerchief in the pocket -- fill out the picture, giving the scene the sense of a radical experiment. Such short close-ups had been discussed by Fernand Léger the previous year in his article 'A New Realism -- The Object: Its Plastic and Cinematic Value'. However, the closest source of inspiration is probably experimental film, which Munch must have been exposed to during his many travels abroad in the years 1925-1927. The Russian film artist Dziga Vertov was very much in vogue in this period, having already, in a manifesto in 1922, launched a new kind of documentary film: instead of fusing a plot the artist should convey impressions of reality through a new kind of rythm like that of a musical composer. One of Vertovs bestknown works, The Man with the Movie Camera, was built up through street scenes, deliberate blurring through movement, double-exposure effects, such as shots through windows, and stopping at, for instance, a poster to give the effect of a still life. Munch seems to have tried out exactly the same kind of effects, and his camera was especially good for such sequences. Vertov was the first film artist introduced in Das Kunstblatt (May 1929), perhaps his style was viewed in unison with the programme of The New Objectivity. From: Arne Eggum, Munch and Photography (New Haven, Yale university Press, 1989) __
Re: [NetBehaviour] Re REFLECTIONS : Reflections on the _NewAesthetic_
...SAME AS JACK THE RIPER WAS PART OF NEW RIDERS OF THE PURPLE SAGE...MANIK...APRIL...2012... - Original Message - From: "Antonio Roberts" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Friday, April 27, 2012 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Re REFLECTIONS : Reflections on the _NewAesthetic_ Wasn't the New Aesthetic part of Nu Rave? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_rave That's so 2008... On 20 April 2012 18:19, Rob Myers wrote: > On 04/20/2012 09:01 AM, manik wrote: >> ...WE'VE SEEN NEW AESTHETIC IN PAIR OF NEW CHINESE >> SNEAKERS...MANIK...APRIL...2012... > > This sounds right. > > - Rob. > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- anto...@hellocatfood.com http://www.hellocatfood.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] ER GO
...ERGOMANIK...MANIK...APRIL...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] MANIK exhibition
Thank you Michael! I wish to tell that Marija /part of MANIK/have exhibition in Maribor / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maribor / which is this year European Capital of Culture. Exhibition's in ''Gallery Rrrudolf''/painting we show here are from that exhib. called...''MANIK ALIVE''/63 paintings,acrilyc on canvas,size between 25x35 and smaller.../. I'm not there because nobody from Europe couldn't believe that we/MANIK/ have no money to go there together:):( But who care...Life's short and main part of them goes to bureaucracy. God luck and best wishes ...MANIK IN TWO PART...:-D...APRIL...2012... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] SEPARATE PART
...AESTHETIC MOVEMENT COULD BE SEPARATE OR PART OF THE NEW AESTHETIC OR FROM THE OLD AESTHETIC...MANIK...APRIL...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] NEW OLD
...THE NEW AESTHETIC IS DIFFERENT THAN THE OLD AESTHETIC...MANIK...APRIL...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Re REFLECTIONS : Reflections on the _New Aesthetic_
...WE'VE SEEN NEW AESTHETIC IN PAIR OF NEW CHINESE SNEAKERS...MANIK...APRIL...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Links: MANIK ALIVE 1
...AS ALWAYS - ROB'S RIGHT!...WE'VE FORGOT TO THINK ABOUT ON KAWARA...HE'S GOOD IN 'ALIVE' :)...MANIK...APRIL...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Friday, April 13, 2012 10:09 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Links: MANIK ALIVE 1 On 04/13/2012 10:57 AM, manik wrote: > ...MANIK ALIVE...APRIL...2012... http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=man+alive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_Alive http://www.mitchmagee.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/i_am_still_alive1079637166.jpg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Kawara ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] phake kapes
RIMAN SURFACE...MANIK...APRIL...2012. http://rhizome.org/discuss/view/49741/ ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour..<>___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Belays without Orders
...''GEOMETRY WITHOUT SPACE''/A.ARTAUD/...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: "Curt Cloninger" To: Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:30 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Belays without Orders 1946: http://squarewhiteworld.com/2009/12/10/stop-screaming-ideas-are-the-voids-of-the-body-penetrating-connexions-self-serving-excerpts-from-stephen-barbers-the-screaming-body/ 2011: http://francoisegamma.computersclub.org 1980: http://lab404.com/273/deleuze_guattari.pdf ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] TODAY
...YES...IT WAS YESTERDAY...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: martin mitchell To: manik ; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] TODAY OH NO! it was yesterday. m. On 19 Mar 2012, at 21:02, manik wrote: ...TODAY IS GREAT DAY IN HISTORY OF ART ...MANIK...MARCH...2012... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour martin mitchell martinmitc...@mac.com ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] TODAY
...TODAY IS GREAT DAY IN HISTORY OF ART ...MANIK...MARCH...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
...we wish to remind you on Alexandra Reill from Wiena...she is left oriented artist capable to explain her social engagement trough art...thanks!...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: ruth catlow To: netbehaviour@netbehaviour.org Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2012 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts Super happy to see Rob's Balloon Dog getting seen as part of this exhibition : ) Annie... Well perhaps Format (technical) stands for Form (artistic) I'm not sure I could (or would want to) find and define a "female" format but v. disheartened by what is either an unfortunate oversight or just a pure evil exclusion of work by women. There are many many many examples - these are just a tiny sliver of women who could have contributed a format to the project. I hesitate to make a list because of all the brilliant things that will then be excluded but just to show that this isn't just hot air. De Geuzen (Renee Turner, Riek Sijbring and Femke Snelting)- Female Icons and Anxiety Monitor Mary Flanagan - many many many, including Domestic - personal history told around the flaming walls of a gamespace Helen Varley Jamieson and Paula Crutchlow - Make-Shift - participatory (audiences of two physical spaces) linked by artists' dramaturgy Upstage - Avatar Body Collision - cyberformance software platform and performance programme Annie Abrahams - The Big Kiss, Huit Clos, Angry Women +many many- networked performance Liz Sterry - Kay's Blog, real-world reconstruction of social life online Ele Carpenter - Embroidered Digital Commons - stitching together of Craft and Code cultures of knowledge sharing and politics. Alison Craighead Amy Alexander Kate Armstrong Kate Rich Francesca fa Rimini Coco Fusco Natalie Jeremijenko Laurie Anderson Mez Breeze Kelli Dipple Nina Pope and Karen Guthrie :) R On 17/03/2012 10:14, Annie Abrahams wrote: of course I am glad, happy for Rob to be in this show I posted because I was thinking, am thinking about gender and power, influence, attention, - feel quit confused about it, but noticed form@t didn't include "female" formats and made me think about if these exist yes they must, they do Can we find good examples? And why they are omitted? does form@t mean control? is the show a formalistic exposure? I know that the initiator of the online art presentations in Jeu de Paume is a women - she invited Christophe Bruno - an artist I know and appreciate - she is having a lot of difficulties defending online art. Does the institution need a strong male presence to "try to be convincing"? Is it a sign of times not changing? Are we still at the Three Guineas time of Virginia Woolf yours Annie Can we find good examples of fem@le Form@ts? On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 9:35 PM, Rob Myers wrote: On 16/03/12 18:32, Annie Abrahams wrote: > no ladies in the show at all can't they format? Some are in the "Magic Ring" project, although none are mentioned on the front page, no. :-/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- 29 12 2011 Annie Abrahams on Greek television http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eE36dwhLgg 4'26'' http://www.bram.org ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts
...congratulations Rob!...IMO,we could see in that selected work one well define part of NMA...it's important as way ...that could define space for different thinking about society,tecnology and artist as 'Subject in new epoch of computing' ...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 7:02 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Découvrez Form@ts > My Balloon Dog (commissioned by Furtherfield) is in a show at the Jeu de > Paum's virtual space along with work by Vuk Ćosić, Slub, FAT Lab, and > others: > > http://espacevirtuel.jeudepaume.org/formts-2-1388/ > > "Balloon Dog est une modélisation en trois dimensions, téléchargeable > gratuitement sous la licence Creative Commons, modifiable et imprimable > sur une imprimante 3D..." > > :-) > > - Rob. > ___ > NetBehaviour mailing list > NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org > http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening Standard yesterday
...it's not insignificant to tell that 40 years ago G&G weren't part of some 'corporate art'...world was different and beside CIA art/see M.Andre memories and interviews/most of artist were naive enough to believe that art could change The World...but power of spin doctors was faster than huge and,in hierarchy,conservative 'world of art'...corporatation 'see' faster and better because they bought best people in that branch...G&G became symbol of sexual hipper-freedom/in compare with hippie sex. revolution/...same as Hearst take death and pills,body of death and 'medicine body'/beside 'body of low-you must identify you self in quart of low,body of termination/with numbers and lists/...and so on...'corporative art' make mental simulation of danger,body of animal/ Oleg Kulik- man-dog/...no matter is he state or corporate artist he have specific rule in system of power distribution...Ai Wei.. make fake ancient jar with cola sign on it and with this work he melt West and Chinese art in something new...beside-that new is more 'Neo-Modern' in 'look' than post-modern...all those things belong to 'power of corporation/of course you should considered some state as *corporation*,why not/...idealistic projection about artist in cave who reach nirvana/art by meditation is really story for kids...like mine who picking from soil some new and exclusive issue will find reflexion in some art form...maybe last two genial painters/people who make miracle with colors and brashes-L.Freud and Basquiat are dead/...theres so many interesting artists who are very good with what they do/Chinese who have people who laugh,with same expression on face,Yoyoi, Koons...and many other...world today is full of good artists and good art...but not more than that...but that *more* was from Gioto,or Rublev something we looking for in art...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2012 9:02 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening Standard yesterday On 14/03/12 12:03, dave miller wrote: > Here's an article arguing that G&G are not fascists: > http://www.newmediastudies.com/art/gilbert.htm > > and an interview "We are searching for the truth" > http://www.jca-online.com/gilbertandgeorge.html I really, really, really do believe that they are acting, and that they decided to do so four decades ago. I admire their constancy. And I think that they are aesthetically interesting because of their social aesthetics. This is perilously close to them being interesting because of their politics, but I plead irony in their defence. I also believe that this is not in any way above criticism given how the world has changed in the last four decades. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening Standard yesterday
- Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening Standard yesterday On 06/03/12 22:41, manik wrote: > > so...Gilbert & George are Buddhas of ''Corporation Art'' same as I love this description. -Nice gentlemans:) > Damien,Hockney,...name them...of course there's people who still believe > in > art but it's better for them to change name of their work...instead 'art' > they could name that as 'techne'...it's not important to make REVOLUTION > on > the first place...for beginning it's good to make revolution in language > of > revolution/you could replace word 'revolution' with word > 'art'/techne/...MANIK...MARCH...2012... I think it's not so important to name what you are doing as you do it. The name may be a limit. -How can we wrote novel without words?In my new novel all other novels are pure,white paper.But my own novel is full of words!Contradictio in adjecto:) But I dp cling to "art", although I doubt many people would regard much of what I do or like as art. :-) -We find that question is about goes on the other side.Sometime like that,sometime like That.Same as Andy get Nole last time,but next time..hm...life's short and sensless.And tragic ...too... - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] ARTISTS SIDE
...NO,WE WANT ARTISTS TO BE GODS...MANIK WANT ALL ARTISTS.ALL PEOPLE WITH LIGHT IN EYES TO BE GODS...FOR REST WE DON'T CARE...IT'S UP TO THEM TO MAKE THEIR WAR'S AND BOMBS...FOOD FOR ALL:)...SAME AS WE ARE SLAVES NOW WE WANT OTHER PEOPLE TO BE SLAVES AND WORK FOR ARTIST;)...PURE AESTHETIC...L'ART POUR L'ARTIST... IN 2112!OR 2012?...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] ARTISTS SIDE On 07/03/12 22:47, manik wrote: > ...WE HOPE ONE DAY... ART /TECHNE/ WITH EXCLUSIVE CREATIVE CONTROL FROM > ARTISTS SIDE... ONLY ... COULD BE POSSIBLE ...MANIK...MARCH...2012... But free for the people to experience, and to become artists in turn? - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] MAGMA CARTA
...in one newspaper her,in Belgrade,something like 'Guardian' in UK we
participate in net. discussion about 'How survive with 100Euro per month'/or
something/...MANIK explain his
situation considered money and one kind person told him to *work something*
and make art in 'free time'...''To live in free time...?'' Was MANIK's
Answer
I don't understand your words''artist gotta eat''...Even worm must eat/?/Why
to stop our consideration of wonderful world of art on that insignificant
level?...After all MANIK as name and date goes right after 'friends
posters'/just watch again 'MAGMA CARTA',it's pure phenomenology,there's
nothing for you to be confused/.
Is there somebody who is going to change his/her mind because of fact that
artist must eat?After all MANIK wrote that in his text ''Conquer of
indifference''/Rhizome_Raw about teen years ago,on Serbian language,easy to
find/.
So...MANIK's intention wasn't to preach people/artists/to eat rocks instead
burger... our intention was to make art work('MAGMA CARTA') in place where
art 'doesn't live anymore'...in empty paper glasses of secret offices,in
body liquids who change place from one to another hole,in one filthy
praeelection game with money who,in any case,goes somewhere else,only
insignificant part goes in art /it's not your duty to know that...just be
careful before put private impression in front of people/public/,because you
couldn't or rather 'you don't want to know all filthy game around one net.
art fair in Belgrade, city who have no museums anymore'/?/
In lie where MANIK doesn't want to exist every eye is
$...MANIK...MARCH...2012...
- Original Message -
From: "Rob Myers"
To:
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] MAGMA CARTA
On 09/03/12 19:40, manik wrote:
> <http://www.domomladine.org/>
This reminds me of the artist who paints gallery show invitation cards.
I can't remember their name just at the moment.
Posters with just the logos on would identify the event more uniquely
than the work it contains. This is the aesthetic people must see as a
neccessary condition of the event being possible.
All that said, artists gotta eat...
- Rob.
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Re: [NetBehaviour] Resonate-New Media festival in Belgrade 16/17 March
...THIS IS CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF ''FONDATION ART'' FAIR... FEW PEOPLE GET MONEY...OTHER GET 'GLORY' AND OPPORTUNITY TO SEE BELGRADE-...*CITY OF CLOSED MUSEUMS*...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: Tatjana Vukelic To: NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Sent: Friday, March 09, 2012 4:31 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Resonate-New Media festival in Belgrade 16/17 March Dear All, I would like to inform you about this great festival which will take place in Belgrade, Serbia Tickets are officially sold out but you can find some people selling on festival fb page. Anyway you can check night program. http://resonate.io/2012/#home https://www.facebook.com/resonate.io best Tatjana http://cargocollective.com/toytica -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] ARTISTS SIDE
...WE HOPE ONE DAY... ART /TECHNE/ WITH EXCLUSIVE CREATIVE CONTROL FROM ARTISTS SIDE... ONLY ... COULD BE POSSIBLE ...MANIK...MARCH...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening Standard yesterday
...Gilbert & George are artists whose 'golden time' was at the end of 60-ies...and...so on... until recent time...meanwhile art became something meta-aesthetic...one part's ''Foundation art'' who was paid from sponsors who want to see how particular 'art' problem could influence in some specific society/for example in society in transition/...some foundations like 'ProHelvetia' , 'Soros open society fond'...etc...trough form of 'social research','workshops' and similar ideologematic activism try to establish kind of culture close to one which they thing it's proper for that/particular/society...artist as indivudal,Subject of his own art became mouse in one great laboratory caled''Foundation Art''...for they *work*those,so called 'artist' get some $ depend from which country they are/maybe you cold remember few Bulgarian artist who were popular during the 90-ies/at least in Balcan/...now we can't even remember their names...one of them claim that ''he is best artist in Bulgaria because he 'make' more than 100 000$ from different foundation with his participation in some regional exhibitions''/that's also art,oh,yes!/...now he hardly can remember his own name...he do his job,Bulgaria became part of EU and nobody need his art anymore...more interesting's case with ''Corporation Art''...Marina Abramovic was interesting artist who start carrier in Belgrade during late 60-ies...every sense that time she was good performing artist but she/in her word:'spend much more time siting on the phone and collecting money than working art'...all that's chan'ge in one exhibition in Sarajevo in mid 90-ies during the civil war in former Yugoslavia..she give her work and her carrier from one of good/even very good/example of 'Foundation Art' became part of ''Corporation art''...it's not so hard to make that small step...just give up from your people and take another flag...but it wasn't act of leaving her art,or make it better...i find her work in last two decade interesting in one level-it's very fanny...i mean realy funny in sense i laugh when i look at her work...it's still art..of course...why not...but who is going to show pain,solitude,desperate/?/...i'm sure Marina is not the one... so...Gilbert & George are Buddhas of ''Corporation Art'' same as Damien,Hockney,...name them...of course there's people who still believe in art but it's better for them to change name of their work...instead 'art' they could name that as 'techne'...it's not important to make REVOLUTION on the first place...for beginning it's good to make revolution in language of revolution/you could replace word 'revolution' with word 'art'/techne/...MANIK...MARCH...2012... - Original Message - From: "marc garrett" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] Read this about Gilbert & George in the Evening Standard yesterday Hi Dave, Why anyone would listen to or even give their opinions any weight is beyond me. I think it's obvious that G&G are elitists, and would not wish to lose any income from their bourgeois client base. They are on the side of the exploiters - it's good business sense as far as they are concerned. Who gives a shit whether they work from 5. am or not - many work just as hard for much less, and are losing their jobs, communities, and much more - they are not relevant. wishing you well. marc > http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/arts/visual-arts/wed-rather-side-with-the-bankers-than-some-vegan-protester-twit-on-benefits-say-gilbert-and-george-7537242.html > "By the mid-Seventies they were already a fully fledged double-act. > Sexually libertarian, revolutionary even, they have always been > politically conservative and are harsh judges of those who do not > share their work ethic. They both dismiss the St Paul’s protesters as > “hippies” and “idiots” and would rather side with the bankers than > “some vegan twit on benefits”, they think Boris Johnson is “a > wonderful modern person” and believe fiercely in “making money”. > “We make our art, we try to sell it. We are doing it day and night, we > are here at 5am trying to do it every day for the last 40 years. > That’s fantastic, no?” says Gilbert." > > > I think ... If their work is supposed to be some sort of comment on > the world around them, then it's very surface/ un - informed. They > live a stone's throw from The City and yet appear to be completely > oblivious - and disinterested - in
Re: [NetBehaviour] Regarding Artbollocks
...AS MA/rija/and NIK/ola-MANIK SAID TO EACH OTHER WHEN THEY RIDE ROB'S FIRST TEXT/IT WAS TEEN YEARS AGO,OR MORE/:''THAT'S THE MAN!''/WHO IS GOING TO CHANGE THINGS IN THE WORLD OF ART...THAT MEAN WORLD IN GENERALLY...WHO IS CAPABLE TO HIDE HIS FREEDOM AS ESSENCE ,NOT TO SHOW FALSE WORLD WHO CAN REPLACE FREEDOM/IT'S TOO EASY TO MAKE,THAT'S WHAT MOST OF 'INTELLECTUALS' DO FOR LIVING...FOR SALARY...BUT,ROB EARN HIS MONEY AND BUILD RESPECT BECAUSE HE KNOW HOW TO SEPARATE THOSE TWO SYSTEM...WHEN WE THOUGHT ABOUT OUR LIFES WITHOUT MONEY BUT FREE...WE ALWAYS THOUGHT HOW HARD IS ROB'S POSITION-TO EARN MONEY FOR FAMILY AND THINK AS FREE MAN...WORLD WILL BE MUCH BETTER PLACE WITH PEOPLE WHO COULD UNDERSTAND WHAT'S ROB'S SPACE IN OUR WORLD...THIS IS ETHIC,INTELLECTUAL AND CREATIVE FREEDOM IN WORLD WITH ENTIRE DIFFERENT GOAL...EVERY GOOD NEWS ABOUT ROB IS GOD NEWS FOR EVERY CREATIVE PERSON IN THE WORLD OF ART...THANKS ROB!...MANIK...FEBRUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Monday, February 20, 2012 10:01 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] Regarding Artbollocks I wrote my artbollocks-mode.el script, a "minor mode" for the Emacs text editor that highlights egregious grammatical errors and artspeak, to help me write reviews for Furtherfield. So I'm surprised and pleased to see it getting wider use outside of art review writing: http://sachachua.com/blog/2011/12/emacs-artbollocks-mode-el-and-writing-more-clearly/ http://tychoish.com/rhizome/assisted-editing/ (Thanks to cwebber - http://dustycloud.org for the links.) You can get artbollocks-mode.el here: https://gitorious.org/robmyers/scripts - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists
...YOU ARE ONE OF BEST PHOTOGRAPHER WE'VE SEEN ON NET LAST YEARS...IT'S ORIGINAL AND ROUGH WORK...MANIK...FEBRUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: "James Morris" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 4:04 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] worries about blacklists Hi, I recently noticed that facebook warns people about links to my website being malicious and surbl.org blacklists my domain name as associated with spam. >From what I can tell, some email clients allow filtering of messages based upon these blacklists such as multi.surbl.org or ws.surbl.org and it is within these lists where my domain is listed in. Spam filters which use these lists scan the message _body_ and if a reference to a blacklisted domain is found then the message is regarded as spam. I'm rather disappointed about this and it's lead me to wonder if maybe something I've posted here is to blame. I know I've been argumentative at times and been reactionary to things I dislike but I hope that the actual work I've posted (not so much recent work) over the years has made up for it. The artist career thing for me never took off and academically the degree was as far as I got. Programming has become my focus and due to that I find little time for anything else. With that in mind I'm left making posts on the occasional inspired impulse. Hence the mobile-shot audio-clips and photographs from while I'm at (factory)work. Or screenshots of software I'm trying to develop. Seems like I'm producing less and less art. But does it have to be art to post here? I tend to focus on the "creativity" in the title to help me justify my posts here. I have a memory (real or imagined) of when I first subscribed of asked Marc if it was ok and he said 'for now'. The thing is I don't want to unsubscribe just because I'm not an artist any more, but the impulses to post *random*stuff* are likely to be around for a while... Unless people speak up to disuade me and give good reasons for why and etc James. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] I'M SHOCKED
...FACEBOO-PLACEBO... http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=314137011956087&set=a.197342273635562.39451.133753149994475&type=1&theater ... MANIK...FEBRUARY...2012...___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] To My Old Master.
...THIS MORNING,BEFORE WE WROTE THIS LETTER,I PUT GRACE JONES IN OUR PHOTO COLLECTION...AND I THING TO MY SELF:''OH,WHAT A WONDERFULL LADY!''...COINCIDENCE/?/...YES!...LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE...THANKS FOR THAT LETTER!...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... From: "marc garrett" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:28 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] To My Old Master. To My Old Master. In August of 1865, a Colonel P.H. Anderson of Big Spring, Tennessee, wrote to his former slave, Jourdan Anderson, and requested that he come back to work on his farm. Jourdan — who, since being emancipated, had moved to Ohio, found paid work, and was now supporting his family — responded spectacularly by way of the letter seen below (a letter which, according to newspapers at the time, he dictated). http://www.lettersofnote.com/2012/01/to-my-old-master.html -- Other Info: Furtherfield - A living, breathing, thriving network http://www.furtherfield.org - for art, technology and social change since 1997 Also - Furtherfield Gallery& Social Space: http://www.furtherfield.org/gallery About Furtherfield: http://www.furtherfield.org/content/about Netbehaviour - Networked Artists List Community. http://www.netbehaviour.org http://identi.ca/furtherfield http://twitter.com/furtherfield ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] MANIK ABOUT WIKI
...FOR ME THIS ONE EXAMPLE/WITH JEW/IS ENOUGH CONSIDERED NATIONALISMS...I FIND MORE INTERESTING TENDENCY IN WIKIPEDIA TO SUPPORT MEMORYCID BECAUSE WE SHOULD DEMAND FACTS FOR EVERYBODY,FOR EVERY INNOCENT VICTIM:JEW,SERB,GREEK,LYBIAN...I FIND IT'S SCANDALIZE THAT CLINTON'S SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH MONICA LEWINSKY OCCUPY WHOLE PASSAGE,ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S MORE THAN 2000 DEAD SERBIAN CITIZEN WHO DOESN'T DESERVE EVEN ONE SENTENCE IN ARTICLE ABOUT CLINTON IN WIKIPEDIA,AND CLINTON'S ROLE IN THAT WAR/BOMBING SERBIA 1999/IS HIDEN...WE GIVE OUR BEST TO FIGHT AGAINST ANTI-SEMITISM TROUGH WROTE ON BLOGS,BUT WHAT CAN WE DO WITH CLINTON AND HIS CRIME?TO TELL TO SERBIAN AUDIENCE FACTS THEY KNOW VERY GOOD?..AS YOU KNOW WEST POWER/NATO/PUT LAST SUSPECT SERB IN HAGUE...BUT WHAT ABOUT CLINTON?...WE /I MEAN ALL PEOPLE ON THE WORLD/ HAVE RIGHT TO KNOW AT LEAST TRUTH AND FACTS ABOUT CLINTON AND HIS CRIME IN THAT WAR...WE MUST TAKE CARE ABOUT EVERY VICTIM OF WARS NO MATTER TO WHOM HE/SHE BELONG TO...IF WE WANT TO BE HONEST PEOPLE...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Alan Sondheim" To: "manik" ; "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:54 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] MANIK ABOUT WIKI > > > Really depressing, I wonder how many other hatreds are in Wikipedia > articles - are there any articles elsewhere on Wikipedia and nationalisms? > Just wondering... > > Alan > > On Wed, 18 Jan 2012, manik wrote: > >> "??? ?? , ?? ?? ? ? ?? ??? ?? >> ???." >> ''And we could see,from experience, that hate toward people for Jew is >> principle for survival.''/translate from Serbian to English/ >> /http://sr.wikiquote.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%83%D1%85_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0 >> %B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B0 / >> This is example from Wikipedia on Serbian...who want to spend few minute >> more he could see that this sentence stay on the end of Spinoza chosen >> quotation.From our experience- beginning and end of some text are most >> significant parts .So,it's obvious-somebody from Serbian board for >> wikipedia >> on Serbian language want to ruin our insight in Spinoza's philosophy by >> that/maybe even wrong quote/. Why?Who want to spread hate and >> antisemitism >> via wikipedia here,in Serbia?What could be reason for that?BTW:in Serbian >> blogs we could find significant anti Jew texts. >> This is just introduction in next:in wikipedia text about Bill Clinton / >> former president of USA/ and his role in bombing Serbia/1999/ take *part >> of >> one sentence*!!!Who work against truth in wikipedia???...And...Is that so >> very important what's happened in USA Congress considered obvious >> wikipedia >> tendency to act in posthistory style/arbitrary facts,cover up and leave >> put/. Maybe it's time to think about those things before we ''Occupy >> wikipedia space''/...he,ha,he.../...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... >> ? ??? ? Wikiquote >> sr.wikiquote.org >> >> > > == > eyebeam: http://eyebeam.org/blogs/alansondheim/ > email archive http://sondheim.rupamsunyata.org/ > web http://www.alansondheim.org / cell 347-383-8552 > music: http://www.espdisk.com/alansondheim/ > current text http://www.alansondheim.org/rh.txt > == ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] I'M SHOCKED IV
http://www.vitaminw.co/world/china-prostituting-defend-sex-workers-rights In China, Prostituting to Defend Sex Workers' Rights Mon January 16, 2012 by Oiwan Lam Well-known blogger and feminist activist Ye Haiyan, also known as Liumang Yan (Hooligan Sparrow), decided to provide sexual services to rural peasant workers on January 11 in defense of sex workers' rights after she witnessed a recent raid by police officers in a brothel in Guangxi province. ...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... <>___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] MANIK ABOUT WIKI
"Видесмо из искуства, да је мржња према народима за Јевреје начело одржања." ''And we could see,from experience, that hate toward people for Jew is principle for survival.''/translate from Serbian to English/ / http://sr.wikiquote.org/wiki/%D0%91%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%83%D1%85_%D0%A1%D0%BF%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B7%D0%B0 / This is example from Wikipedia on Serbian...who want to spend few minute more he could see that this sentence stay on the end of Spinoza chosen quotation.From our experience- beginning and end of some text are most significant parts .So,it's obvious-somebody from Serbian board for wikipedia on Serbian language want to ruin our insight in Spinoza's philosophy by that/maybe even wrong quote/. Why?Who want to spread hate and antisemitism via wikipedia here,in Serbia?What could be reason for that?BTW:in Serbian blogs we could find significant anti Jew texts. This is just introduction in next:in wikipedia text about Bill Clinton / former president of USA/ and his role in bombing Serbia/1999/ take *part of one sentence*!!!Who work against truth in wikipedia???...And...Is that so very important what's happened in USA Congress considered obvious wikipedia tendency to act in posthistory style/arbitrary facts,cover up and leave put/. Maybe it's time to think about those things before we ''Occupy wikipedia space''/...he,ha,he.../...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... Барух Спиноза – Wikiquote sr.wikiquote.org___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] Learn To Draw
...there's no such thing like 'learn to draw'...my learn to draw was long treatment because I was ill because of drawing...I invented my own treatment and I succeed to became man who draw...only way to draw is to be sick because of drawing...to fell sick when you even think on drawing...you are in panic...pencil is your drug and needle...you became dependent and same time you wish to be free...same as faith...you are in faith or you are out...it's good to know about God,Buddha or Allah...but difference between one who believe and one who not is essential and there's no such thing like:''I must go on training course for believers and I'll be believer same as you are now after I finished.''...but man is creature disposed to illusion and short cut and he want to believe that he's believer because one who believe have no way to ask his essence about how truth,deep and frankness is his believe...Avram was believer...he was so deep in faith,he was ready to cut his soon Isac throat...Gauguin left his family because he was sick of drawing...those are significant examples how's that with faith,love and art...there's no link for those stuff...for me art academy was something between prison and mental hospital...who think other way about drawing/art-techne/he is ready to join to ''Occupy Wall St...''or something politic correct which support system.../as we could see not so bad system for 99% as it was on pleasantness of sumer temperature.../drawing's too old...man make drawings and loose tail,fin,surplus of bone...drawing is old and mysterious process of getting ill and joy to be free/at same time/... to fly trough emptiness of paper like swallow double tail...one is line,the other is your life...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] DREAM/WE COULD BE SHOCKED V/
...WHITE WOMAN'S HAND WITH MANICURE TROW AND CUT IN SOME 'NOWHERE' LAND *IS* SHOCKED...NOT IN SAME WAY AS WE WHERE SHOCKED BY BARBARIAN KILLING GADAFY OR CUTTING FISH HEAD...MANIK EXAMINE WHERE'S /OF IS THERE ANY/LIMIT OF PSYCHOLOGICAL FACT *TO BE SHOCKED*...VIOLENCE IS ACT IN 'EMPTY SPACE' OF HUMAN BEHAVIOR...IN THAT SPACE ALL ETHIC OR HUMANITY DISAPPEAR AND EXACTLY THAT SHORTAGE GIVE DIFFERENT ALIBI TO PEOPLE...LIKE-''I WAS SHOCKED'',OR''IT WAS TO MUCH FOR ME'',OR ''MY NERVE WERE TOO WEAK''...BASIC MAN INCLINE TO VIOLENCE /MAYBE...EVEN/ MORE THAN TO GOOD ...AND WITH RISE THRESHOLD OF ACCEPTABLE 'SHOCK' PEOPLE LOOK FOR MORE AND MORE BIZARRE BECAUSE''...This brutality is therefore civilising for me.''...THAT'S SIGNIFICANT,BECAUSE ONE OF OUR FRIEND GET TO WORK SCENOGRAPHY IN IRANIAN FILM...IN ONE CLAUSE IN HIS CONTRACT WAS THAT HE NEVER 'RISE VOICE ON HIS ASSOCIATE'...AFTER YEAR AND HALF SPEND IN IRAN HIS IMPRESSION WERE ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE...''GOD ATMOSPHERE,GENTLENESS AND NICE MANNER...THAT'S WHAT HE UNDERLINE...BEFORE FEW DECADES THAT COUNTRY WAS IN HORRIBLE WAR WITH IRAQ...IS THAT GENERAL RULE TO REACH MOST BRUTAL LIFE TO REALIZE PREFERENCE OF PEACEABLE/?/...WE HAVE SERIOUS PROBLEM TO FIND ON OUR CABLE TV SOME FILM WITHOUT VIOLENCE...IS THAT JUST 'ART' OR PSYCHOLOGICAL/IDEOLOGICAL PREPARATION TO GET THAT *IN LIVE*/IN SERBIA...AGAIN.../OR IN WORLD/?/... MANIK...JANUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] DREAM/WE COULD BE SHOCKED V/ On 15/01/12 12:15, manik wrote: > > ...OUR MAINSTREAM DREAM...WE COULD BE SHOCKED...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... I am shocked to find that I *can* be shocked. This brutality is therefore civilising for me. - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] DREAM/WE COULD BE SHOCKED V/
...OUR MAINSTREAM DREAM...WE COULD BE SHOCKED...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... <>___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] fail better
Your drawings are like spring.From drawing,trough photography...music and video...we could see artist who's thought is clever and direct.Like your line,full of light. ...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: Martha Deed To: Michael Szpakowski ; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] fail better Dear Michael-- I really like these. I am especially interested in the variety in how finished they are. Quirky, imaginative, primitive at times, and actually made my fingers itch, though my drawings are not charming as yours are. This is an obsession to be fed, I think. Best, Martha Michael Szpakowski wrote: thank-you Joel... I don't honestly know how I expect people to react. I'm pretty obsessed at the moment... I know that drawing is something I really want to keep doing. warm wishes michael From: Joel Weishaus To: Michael Szpakowski ; NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:49 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] fail better Hi Michael; I like the drawings being held in front of the scene, and the page torn from the pad. -Joel - Original Message - From: Michael Szpakowski To: netbehaviour Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2012 3:42 AM Subject: [NetBehaviour] fail better http://www.flickr.com/photos/szpako/sets/72157628857713423/ cheers michael -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour -- ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] I'M SHOCKED II
...I BELIEVE NOTHING IMPORTANT HAPPENED IN ART OF AMBIQUITY SENS THAT TIME...MOST OF SLIGHTLY DISTURBING ART'S BASED ON ANECDOTE...BANKSY...LIKE SOAP...NOW WE UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE CALL THAT KIND OF ENTERTAINMENT-SOAP OPERA...SOAP ART-WASH THE SYSTEM ...ETC...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] I'M SHOCKED II On 11/01/12 11:59, manik wrote: > > ...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... http://rhizome.org/discuss/view/7843/ - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
[NetBehaviour] I'M SHOCKED II
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[NetBehaviour] SHOCKED
...I'M SHOCKED... MANIK...JANUARY...2012... ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] THE COLLECTED JOKES OF SLAVOJ ZIZEK
...BEST ZIZEK'S JOKE WAS ''NATO - LEFT HAND OF GOD''/HIS TXT.1999/:(...EVEN TODAY MANY SERBS DIE LAUGHING WHEN,OR IF THEY HEAR THAT JOKE/MOSTLY CAUSE OD DEATH IS 'JOKE CANCER CAUSED BY POWERED URANIUM OF NATO ZIZEK'S JOKE',OR HEART ATTACK CAUSED BY VIOLENT ZIZEK NATO LAUGHING ...HMMM...WHAT A FUNNY GUY!WHAT A FUNNY,FUNNY,FUNNY GUY...I FELL DEEP PITY AND WONDER HOW'S THAT 'WEST' CAN'T PROMOTE SOMETHING EVEN DECENCY IN PHILOSOPHY/?!?/...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: "marc garrett" To: "NetBehaviour for networked distributed creativity" Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 3:57 PM Subject: [NetBehaviour] THE COLLECTED JOKES OF SLAVOJ ZIZEK http://www.themickeymouseclub.biz/3.html ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] PEEL EGG
...''ETHIC IS AESTETIC'' IS SCIENCE...YOU SHOW ME EXAMPLE OF 'TECHNE' WITH LASER...BUT WE SEEK BOZON HERE...SUPSTANCE WHO PUT PHYSICS AND METAPHYSISC IN ONCE FOREWER DEFINE RELATIOSHIP...WE SEARCH FOR *MISSING PEOPLE*...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] PEEL EGG On 02/01/12 13:53, manik wrote: > ...IF IS THERE ALTERNATE METHOD THERE'S A LOT SPACE FOR FAILURE...ARE YOU > MONOTHEIST OR YOU BELIEVE IN MANY GODS/?/... :) ...ONE OR MANY...MANIK OR > MANY/K/?...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... I have the SCIENCE: http://www.akademifantasia.org/arts-and-culture/laser-beam-eggshells-arts/ :-D - Rob. ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
Re: [NetBehaviour] PEEL EGG
...IF IS THERE ALTERNATE METHOD THERE'S A LOT SPACE FOR FAILURE...ARE YOU MONOTHEIST OR YOU BELIEVE IN MANY GODS/?/... :) ...ONE OR MANY...MANIK OR MANY/K/?...MANIK...JANUARY...2012... - Original Message - From: "Rob Myers" To: Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [NetBehaviour] PEEL EGG On 02/01/12 11:39, manik wrote: > ...IS THERE ANY UNIVERSAL RECIPE FOR PERFECT PEEL EGGS/?/ http://www.wikihow.com/Peel-an-Egg ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org http://www.netbehaviour.org/mailman/listinfo/netbehaviour
