[VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 12.2 (vote candidate 2)

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear community,

This is our second voting candidate for the 12.2 release of Apache
NetBeans. It is built off the same commit as 12.2-rc3. Please note
all requirements below for validating sources and convenience binaries
before voting.

Apache NetBeans 12.2 constitutes all clusters in the Apache NetBeans
Git repository, which together provide the NetBeans Platform (i.e., the
underlying application framework), as well as all the modules that
provide the Java SE, Java EE, PHP, JavaScript and Groovy features of
Apache NetBeans.

Build artifacts are available here :
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/vc2
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-platform/12.2/vc2

They were built by the Jenkins pipeline and moved to their place :
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/20/

We are primarily voting on :
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/vc2/netbeans-12.2-source.zip

SHA512 :
84e7584689e0993ee60e9af8ccad2ba247bad8562ab742bf24d19ab56f29ac131943ab54fcf850588e04a00bdd9fea40909e1b91f47c8f545f89cae29144af8e

KEYS file :
https://downloads.apache.org/netbeans/KEYS

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Associated to the primary source item you will have (generated with
pipeline mentioned above)
* under https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans/12.2/vc2
binaries associated to the source
netbeans-12.2-bin.zip
as well as update content under nbms folder

* under 
https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/netbeans/netbeans-platform/12.2/vc2

you will find platform cluster build
netbeans-platform-12.2-bin.zip
netbeans-platform-12.2-source.zip

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Release specific wiki page :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+12.2

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Voting requirements

Before voting +1 you are required to download the signed source code
package, compile it as provided, and test the resulting executable on
your own platform, along with also verifying that the package meets
the requirements of the ASF policy on releases - see
http://www.apache.org/legal/release-policy.html#management

In particular, you should (at least) follow these steps.

1. Download the artefact to be voted on and unzip it.

2. Check that the artefact does not contain any jar files, except for:
    - 
platform/autoupdate.services/test/unit/src/org/netbeans/api/autoupdate/data/empty.jar
    - enterprise/glassfish.common/test/unit/data/nottaDir-4_1_2.jar
    - enterprise/glassfish.common/test/unit/data/subdir/nottaDir-5.0.jar
    - enterprise/payara.common/test/unit/data/nottaDir-4_1_2.jar
    - enterprise/payara.common/test/unit/data/subdir/nottaDir-5.0.jar
    which are only jars by their name

3. Verify the cryptographic signatures, the NOTICE and LICENSE file

4. Build it using the README provided by the artifact.

5. Look in nbbuild/netbeans for the NetBeans installation created by
the build process and try running it.

In addition to checking the sources, you should check the associated
convenience binary zips and nbms at the artifact links above.
As well as checking any artifact functions correctly, you should check
that it has been correctly signed by a PMC member, and that the source
being voted on is sufficient to build the relevant binary.

Separate votes will be held on other convenience binaries, including
installers and Maven artifacts. Those will be dependent on this vote
passing.

This vote is going to be open at least 72 hours, vote with +1, 0, and
-1 as usual. (please justify -1)

Please mark your vote with (binding) if you're an Apache NetBeans PMC
member to help with voting admin.

NetBeans 12.2 will be released if and when this vote passes.

Thank you to all contributors for all your hard work!

Best wishes,

Laszlo Kishalmi
Release Manager for Apache NetBeans 12.2





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Re: Apache NetBeans 12.2-rc3 is Available for Express Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Thank you!

We have the required number of positive feedback, I'm switching the flag 
on rc3 and upload the vc2 for the next round.



On 11/20/20 11:32 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:

+1  Launched for me on Big Sur.

I have several JDKs installed, it launched using 1.8 (the oldest JDK I 
have), That appears to be because I had the JAVA_HOME environment 
variable set to that.


I unset JAVA_HOME with “launchctl unsetenv JAVA_HOME” and launched NB 
again - this time it used JDK 16-lanai (the latest I have installed) 
 and complained that it could not enable the JavaFX module.  (My 
JDK-16 doesn’t have JavaFX modules in it)

But it “worked".


Scott

On Nov 20, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi 
mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Thank you!

Now I'm waiting for a confirmation on another user on BigSur. I'm 
sorry Jarda, I have to ignore your +0.1, but I appreciate your effort!


On 11/20/20 6:12 AM, Josh Juneau wrote:

+1 (worked well on OS X 10.14.6)

Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE 12.2-rc3
Java: 11.0.5; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.5+10-LTS
Runtime: OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11.0.5+10-LTS
System: Mac OS X version 10.14.6 running on x86_64; UTF-8; en_US (nb)

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com <mailto:juneau...@gmail.com>
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau 
<https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866>


On 11/19/20, 1:45 PM, "Laszlo Kishalmi"  
wrote:


Dear Apache NetBeans community,

The third, and hopefully FINAL release candidate of Apache 
NetBeans 12.2

is available.

This one blocker, one trivial and one documentation fix is in this
release as of:

[NETBEANS-5042] Launcher can't find Java Home on MacOS BigSur --
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2547
[NETBEANS-5043] Go to Declaration does not work in VSCode 
extension --

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2548
PR-2546 End user oriented README.md and dedicated BUILD.md --
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2546


Technically these codechanges only affects the MacOS launcher 
and the

upcoming VS Code Extension.

I'm waiting for two positive tests from different individuals 
that the
MacOS launcher works with BugSur and also two test that we did 
not break

the MacOS launcher on older Mac versions.

Please reply to this mail! Once I get those, I'm going to push 
another

set of artifacts for voting.

See the Artifacts on Jenkins:

https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/19/artifact/dist/netbeans/

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Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 12.2


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Re: Apache NetBeans 12.2-rc3 is Available for Express Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Thank you!

We have the required number of positive feedback, I'm switching the flag 
on rc3 and upload the vc2 for the next round.


On 11/20/20 11:32 AM, Scott Palmer wrote:

+1  Launched for me on Big Sur.

I have several JDKs installed, it launched using 1.8 (the oldest JDK I 
have), That appears to be because I had the JAVA_HOME environment 
variable set to that.


I unset JAVA_HOME with “launchctl unsetenv JAVA_HOME” and launched NB 
again - this time it used JDK 16-lanai (the latest I have installed) 
 and complained that it could not enable the JavaFX module.  (My 
JDK-16 doesn’t have JavaFX modules in it)

But it “worked".


Scott

On Nov 20, 2020, at 2:10 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi 
mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Thank you!

Now I'm waiting for a confirmation on another user on BigSur. I'm 
sorry Jarda, I have to ignore your +0.1, but I appreciate your effort!


On 11/20/20 6:12 AM, Josh Juneau wrote:

+1 (worked well on OS X 10.14.6)

Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE 12.2-rc3
Java: 11.0.5; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.5+10-LTS
Runtime: OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11.0.5+10-LTS
System: Mac OS X version 10.14.6 running on x86_64; UTF-8; en_US (nb)

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com <mailto:juneau...@gmail.com>
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau 
<https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866>


On 11/19/20, 1:45 PM, "Laszlo Kishalmi"  
wrote:


Dear Apache NetBeans community,

The third, and hopefully FINAL release candidate of Apache 
NetBeans 12.2

is available.

This one blocker, one trivial and one documentation fix is in this
release as of:

[NETBEANS-5042] Launcher can't find Java Home on MacOS BigSur --
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2547
[NETBEANS-5043] Go to Declaration does not work in VSCode 
extension --

https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2548
PR-2546 End user oriented README.md and dedicated BUILD.md --
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2546


Technically these codechanges only affects the MacOS launcher 
and the

upcoming VS Code Extension.

I'm waiting for two positive tests from different individuals 
that the
MacOS launcher works with BugSur and also two test that we did 
not break

the MacOS launcher on older Mac versions.

Please reply to this mail! Once I get those, I'm going to push 
another

set of artifacts for voting.

See the Artifacts on Jenkins:

https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/19/artifact/dist/netbeans/

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Laszlo Kishalmi
Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 12.2


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Re: Apache NetBeans 12.2-rc3 is Available for Express Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Thank you!

Now I'm waiting for a confirmation on another user on BigSur. I'm sorry 
Jarda, I have to ignore your +0.1, but I appreciate your effort!


On 11/20/20 6:12 AM, Josh Juneau wrote:

+1 (worked well on OS X 10.14.6)

Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE 12.2-rc3
Java: 11.0.5; OpenJDK 64-Bit Server VM 11.0.5+10-LTS
Runtime: OpenJDK Runtime Environment 11.0.5+10-LTS
System: Mac OS X version 10.14.6 running on x86_64; UTF-8; en_US (nb)

Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau 
<https://www.apress.com/index.php/author/author/view/id/1866>
  


On 11/19/20, 1:45 PM, "Laszlo Kishalmi"  wrote:

 Dear Apache NetBeans community,

 The third, and hopefully FINAL release candidate of Apache NetBeans 12.2
 is available.

 This one blocker, one trivial and one documentation fix is in this
 release as of:

 [NETBEANS-5042] Launcher can't find Java Home on MacOS BigSur --
 https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2547
 [NETBEANS-5043] Go to Declaration does not work in VSCode extension --
 https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2548
 PR-2546 End user oriented README.md and dedicated BUILD.md --
 https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2546


 Technically these codechanges only affects the MacOS launcher and the
 upcoming VS Code Extension.

 I'm waiting for two positive tests from different individuals that the
 MacOS launcher works with BugSur and also two test that we did not break
 the MacOS launcher on older Mac versions.

 Please reply to this mail! Once I get those, I'm going to push another
 set of artifacts for voting.

 See the Artifacts on Jenkins:
 
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/19/artifact/dist/netbeans/

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 Laszlo Kishalmi
 Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 12.2


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Apache NetBeans 12.2-rc3 is Available for Express Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear Apache NetBeans community,

The third, and hopefully FINAL release candidate of Apache NetBeans 12.2 
is available.


This one blocker, one trivial and one documentation fix is in this 
release as of:


[NETBEANS-5042] Launcher can't find Java Home on MacOS BigSur -- 
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2547
[NETBEANS-5043] Go to Declaration does not work in VSCode extension -- 
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2548
PR-2546 End user oriented README.md and dedicated BUILD.md -- 
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2546



Technically these codechanges only affects the MacOS launcher and the 
upcoming VS Code Extension.


I'm waiting for two positive tests from different individuals that the 
MacOS launcher works with BugSur and also two test that we did not break 
the MacOS launcher on older Mac versions.


Please reply to this mail! Once I get those, I'm going to push another 
set of artifacts for voting.


See the Artifacts on Jenkins: 
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/19/artifact/dist/netbeans/


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Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 12.2


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Re: Apache NetBeans 12.2-rc2 is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well,

So far there is no open blocker issue reported against NetBeans. 
Supporting an OS which just released to the public would be nice, but it 
wasn't really in the scope in the last 3 months.


As far as I knew the situation, some people reported weird rendering 
issues, which could be the JDK, and lately that our Mac installer does 
not work on BugSur, which have the work around of using our zip 
distribution.


These could be covered in the Release Notes. If we have real issues to 
act on, those could be fixed in 12.3 (must be reported first though)


Again, we are releasing the Source code. Though convenience binaries are 
important, we cannot be expected to support every new and shiny right 
after it is released.


So we are still on track with the 15th of November cut of 12.2 release.


On 11/13/20 12:33 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:


I think we need to look at these new Mac related issues and shouldn’t 
release 12.2 until we have some response or plan around that.


Gj

On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 at 08:51, Laszlo Kishalmi 
mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote:


Dear Apache NetBeans community,

The second, and hopefully final release candidate of Apache NetBeans
12.2 is available.

This one is fixing one blocker issue [NETBEANS-5007] No restart of
language server after change of JDK home

as of: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2531

Technically this codechange only affects the upcoming VSCode
Extension,
so our target date for cutting the release is still 15th of November.


**The following rules are applied to the PR-s :**

As this is a release candidate, if everything goes right the release
build would be cut from the very same git commit as this one.

Only fixes for blocker issues are allowed this time! The rules are
the
following:
- The blocker issue, if found has to be announced and discussed on
the
developer mailing list first. Please note that if you have concern
about
the the licensing of some files/component please raise it now as
those
are considered blocking.
- If there would be an eventual need of fix, please:
- Mark the milestone as: 12.2
- Please add me (lkishalmi) as an additional reviewer

That would also indicate that we do another release candidate when
the
issue is fixed.

I've merged all the changes happened for NetBeans12.2-rc2 to the
master
as well:
- If you feel the PR is ready for 12.3 then mark that milestone
- Add the usual reviewers
- API/SPI changes are fine
- Structural changes are welcome if needed

If everything goes right the Next action would be the vote on the
release from 15th of November!


The NetBeans 12.2-rc2 artifacts are here:

https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist



Link to the binary zip:

https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-rc2-bin.zip


SHA512:

5b9f8194f997ce72c4f4a4cec2b32c6c0422cc5d1a3bc7a2862e813797998b7474a5f93979fb1bb8e3222b31fbe03260a452d116fdca65238c520cde01174891

The sources are here:

https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-rc2-source.zip


SHA512:

9152c7ea1e87403ed4855ebbafbdcd431725bd1b685ad8dfeefb7c7418d1545a2eaf996e94df379516f22a6d3d41171c09571810df19e40a7d1cf5e5e578e269

Release schedule :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Bug Priority Guidelines :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Bug+Priority+Guidelines



Thank you for your contributions!

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Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 12.2


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Apache NetBeans 12.2-rc2 is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear Apache NetBeans community,

The second, and hopefully final release candidate of Apache NetBeans 
12.2 is available.


This one is fixing one blocker issue [NETBEANS-5007] No restart of 
language server after change of JDK home


as of: https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2531

Technically this codechange only affects the upcoming VSCode Extension, 
so our target date for cutting the release is still 15th of November.



**The following rules are applied to the PR-s :**

As this is a release candidate, if everything goes right the release 
build would be cut from the very same git commit as this one.


Only fixes for blocker issues are allowed this time! The rules are the 
following:
- The blocker issue, if found has to be announced and discussed on the 
developer mailing list first. Please note that if you have concern about 
the the licensing of some files/component please raise it now as those 
are considered blocking.

- If there would be an eventual need of fix, please:
- Mark the milestone as: 12.2
- Please add me (lkishalmi) as an additional reviewer

That would also indicate that we do another release candidate when the 
issue is fixed.


I've merged all the changes happened for NetBeans12.2-rc2 to the master 
as well:

- If you feel the PR is ready for 12.3 then mark that milestone
- Add the usual reviewers
- API/SPI changes are fine
- Structural changes are welcome if needed

If everything goes right the Next action would be the vote on the 
release from 15th of November!



The NetBeans 12.2-rc2 artifacts are here:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist 



Link to the binary zip:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-rc2-bin.zip 

SHA512: 
5b9f8194f997ce72c4f4a4cec2b32c6c0422cc5d1a3bc7a2862e813797998b7474a5f93979fb1bb8e3222b31fbe03260a452d116fdca65238c520cde01174891


The sources are here:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/17/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-rc2-source.zip 

SHA512: 
9152c7ea1e87403ed4855ebbafbdcd431725bd1b685ad8dfeefb7c7418d1545a2eaf996e94df379516f22a6d3d41171c09571810df19e40a7d1cf5e5e578e269


Release schedule :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Bug Priority Guidelines :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Bug+Priority+Guidelines 



Thank you for your contributions!

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Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 12.2


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Apache NetBeans 12.2-rc1 is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear Apache NetBeans community,

The first, and hopefully final release candidate of Apache NetBeans 12.2 
is available.


As per the release schedule, NB 12.2 is a non-LTS release, and will
not have a full NetCAT process. However, feedback and testing from
those on the dev@ and netcat@ lists would still be appreciated,
particularly around new features. Please file issues in JIRA as
necessary, with the affects and fix versions set to 12.2. Please take
note of the Bug Priority Guidelines (link below), in particular so
that we can address critical and blocking issues if they arise.

**The following rules are applied to the PR-s :**

As this is a release candidate, if everything goes right the release 
build would be cut from the very same git commit as this one.


Only fixes for blocker issues are allowed this time! The rules are the 
following:
- The blocker issue, if found has to be announced and discussed on the 
developer mailing list first. Please note that if you have concern about 
the the licensing of some files/component please raise it now as those 
are considered blocking.

- If there would be an eventual need of fix, please:
- Mark the milestone as: 12.2
- Please add me (lkishalmi) as an additional reviewer

That would also indicate that we do another release candidate when the 
issue is fixed.


I've merged all the changes happened for NetBeans12.2-rc1 to the master, 
so from now let the master branch be the base of your development for 12.3:

- If you feel the PR is ready for 12.3 then mark that milestone
- Add the usual reviewers
- API/SPI changes are fine
- Structural changes are welcome if needed

Changes from NetBeans 12.2-beta3:

In summary: mostly polishing work for the VSCode extension and PHP. See 
the details at:


https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/15/changes


If everything goes right the Next action would be the vote on the 
release from 15th of November!



The NetBeans 12.2-rc1 artifacts are here:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/16/artifact/dist 



Link to the binary zip:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/16/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-rc1-bin.zip 

SHA512: 
a66d7c2815fbeaa1f6b72f1b3f813601faf7989eb5512856d935f3d1332f21b7b0a7b49cfedb9eb7507e4ea827141fd68520c335b65098582d623644ca918c0d


The sources are here:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/16/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-rc1-source.zip 

SHA512: 
642599c5c479512be8d6f7b21d88a601b0d2a52aeb476c901bf298479e3713e5e9eb3a5daabcb491e2f1d5c17fb0819bedd535b4ec4a5fd7f094b3bdd07672b9


The PRs already integrated into 12.2-rc1 are:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pulls?q=is%3Aclosed+milestone%3A12.2

The NB 12.2 Wiki page is shaping up, thanks to Geertjan, it would be 
good if the contributors could provide more screenshots, as this page 
will be the base of the website feature page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+12.2


Release schedule :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Bug Priority Guidelines :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Bug+Priority+Guidelines 



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FYI: Slight change in the release schedule.

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

The schedule I've proposed earlier and what is on the web page is 
mixing/cramping the things around the cut of beta4 / vote candidate 1/ 
rc1 and the voting a bit.


I've proposed:

5th November:

- Merge release branch to master
- Merge release branch to release122
- Publish 12.2-rc1 for voting
- Start the Voting process
- Hopefully creation of the 12.2 webpages start at least now.

That is 7th of November now, as adjusted with the previous schedule. The 
merges would happen and the 12.2-rc1 will be cut. The voting round will 
not start though.
I would ask everyone to test the 12.2-rc1 as it would be a release, 
licenses, binaries, etc. (That check can be made right now on beta3 as 
well). 12.2-rc1 will be open for fixes only for blocker issues. No 
patching no polishing. Ideally the release would be cut from the same 
git commit as 12.2-rc1 on 15th of November.
We can still have the release voted and announced before the end of 
November.


In the unfortunate event, that we need to patch something on 12.2-rc1 a 
new rc will be cut on the same day as the patch has arrived, and I might 
push the 15th of November date a bit further.


Beside making things more clear, the reason behind this is, that it is 
relatively cheap to cut new beta-s/ rc-s using Jenkins. It is more 
expensive put out a version for vote, then release.


As an update for the current progress:

12.2 is shaping up nicely, only minor polishing changes are happening.

As expected some changes are already happening on master for 12.3


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Fwd: Apache NetBeans 12.2-beta3 is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

 Forwarded Message 
Subject:Apache NetBeans 12.2-beta3 is Available for Testing!
Date:   Fri, 30 Oct 2020 00:31:43 -0700
From:   Laszlo Kishalmi 
To: Apache NetBeans 



Dear Apache NetBeans community,

The third, and final beta build for Apache NetBeans 12.2 is available.

As per the release schedule, NB 12.2 is a non-LTS release, and will
not have a full NetCAT process. However, feedback and testing from
those on the dev@ and netcat@ lists would still be appreciated,
particularly around new features. Please file issues in JIRA as
necessary, with the affects and fix versions set to 12.2. Please take
note of the Bug Priority Guidelines (link below), in particular so
that we can address critical and blocking issues if they arise.

**The following rules are still applied to the PR-s :**
For fixes, that potentially would be delivered in 12.2:
- Base it from the branch named: delivery
- Mark the milestone as: 12.2
- Please add me (lkishalmi) as an additional reviewer
- API changes are strongly discouraged.

For upcoming features, API/SPI changes, that potentially will be 
released in 12.3:

- Base it on master
- If you feel the PR is ready for 12.3 then mark that milestone
- Add the usual reviewers
- API/SPI changes are fine
- Structural changes (e.g. moving modules between clusters) are 
discouraged. (In order to make the weekly delivery branch merge easy.)


Please do what's needs to be done on the PR reviews either for master or 
the delivery branch. Let the pile burn!


All the open PR-s for 12.2 has been integrated, however two of them 
missed the release train.


- https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2455 Fix: Multiple 
CustomIndexer with same Mime-Type use the priority of the IndexerFactory 
+ Tooltip of columns in result-table
- https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/2409 [NETBEANS-4881] 
Automatically detect & list Payara Platform version in the server 
registration panel


The issue which sabotaged most of our Ctrl+ has been fixed. 
Give this one a good spin! Report and fix the annoying bugs!


If everything goes right the Next one will be the vote/release candidate 
on 7th of November!



The NetBeans 12.2-beta3 artifacts are here:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/12/artifact/dist

Link to the binary zip:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/12/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-beta3-bin.zip
SHA512: 
3720e032c4983701eb6a5e14778be9e46387428b03c99e9f3649aae03ae6ff354c7341f48e49bd108e7f39fbcd801995981404f54aa154d423b9ecdd4316c335


The sources are here:
https://ci-builds.apache.org/job/Netbeans/job/netbeans-TLP/job/netbeans/job/release122/12/artifact/dist/netbeans/netbeans-12.2-beta3-source.zip
SHA512: 
9fc9bcd36ece1885a12ddd5da30cf5083fc184d2b10e087926ab6b3295b5e7ea343edea61b44fd77b48d7158ac9287869a9e697510cd3994e05242c47f2f380f


The PRs already integrated into 12.2-beta3 are:
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pulls?q=is%3Aclosed+milestone%3A12.2

The NB 12.2 Wiki page is shaping up, thanks to Geertjan, it would be 
good if the contributors could provide more screenshots, as this page 
will be the base of the website feature page:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+12.2


Release schedule :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Release+Schedule

Bug Priority Guidelines :
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Bug+Priority+Guidelines

Thank you for your contributions!

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Release Manager for Apache 12.2

Re: No Jakarta EE 8 in the list of "Java EE" version

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

The server plugin needs to support that. AFAIK it is only Glassfish 5.1 
which reports that compatibility correctly.



On 9/21/20 3:09 AM, Richard Grin wrote:

Thanks for you work, Josh.

There is still this little problem with NetBeans 12.1. When do you 
plan to fix it?


I'm preparing a course on Jakarta EE for beginners. I use NetBeans (I 
think it is the best IDE for a course) and it's a little bit 
embarrassing.


Richard

Le 25/07/2020 à 17:48, Josh Juneau a écrit :

Thank Glenn, glad to hear that works. I'll work on getting Jakarta EE
8-compatible servers working properly within the IDE.


Josh Juneau
juneau...@gmail.com
http://jj-blogger.blogspot.com
https://www.apress.com/us/search?query=Juneau




On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 12:18 PM Glenn Holmer 


wrote:


On 7/23/20 8:27 PM, Josh Juneau wrote:

Thanks for the feedback.  There is an issue right now when you have a
server pre-selected, I believe, and I'll have to fix that. You 
should be
able to create a New Maven Web Application with the Jakarta EE 8 
option

if

you select no server for now.
Yes, thanks, that works. I can create a new Jakarta EE 8 project 
with no
server selected, then change it to Payara (Project Properties/Run) 
after

opening the project.

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 6:12 PM Glenn Holmer 


wrote:


On 7/23/20 9:25 AM, Josh Juneau wrote:
It should be working with GlassFish 5.1.0.  However, I just 
tested and

Jakarta EE 8 is not showing up with GlassFish 5.1.0.  I will need to

debug

and repair that issue.

I'm having trouble with this as well. I've got the latest Payara
(5.2020.3, released 07/20) registered in NetBeans (can see apps, JDBC
pools, ) but in the "New Web Application" dialog, step 3 
(Settings),
with "Payara Server" selected, I see "Java EE 8 Web" but not 
Jakarta EE

8 (under "Java EE Version").

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Re: Apache NetBeans 12.1-beta1 available for testing

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Thanks Neil!

On the Gradle side:

- Gradle is enabled with Java SE

- Added support for Generated Directories and proper handling of 
annotation processors


On the Launcher side:

- Launcher shall detect JDK installed by SDKMAN on Linux and Mac


On 7/22/20 11:10 AM, Neil C Smith wrote:

On Wed, 22 Jul 2020 at 18:54, Geertjan Wielenga  wrote:

Happy to fill out the empty page -- what are the top 5 or so of these and
what can be considered the release drivers for this?

The only release driver is the date! :-)

In terms of bigger features, there's the lightweight C/C++ support -
Jan added a readme at
https://github.com/apache/netbeans/tree/master/cpplite  This could do
with some good testing during beta too!

There's been a lot of PHP additions - Junichi may have a good grasp of
major changes and what needs testing.

Jakarta EE 8, auto save?

My 2c - please add to it everyone, particularly if you want to
highlight things that should get some attention during beta!

Best wishes,

Neil

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Re: JavaFX and NetCAT 12.0

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

I'm on it, I hope to deliver both the project templates and the testcase 
for beta3, however it is the RM decision to take that or not.


On 4/2/20 8:27 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Not supported yet at this stage, i.e., no project template for it in any
case -- I suggest we focus on Maven for JavaFX for NetCAT 12.0, unless
someone can put a test case together covering Gradle.

Gj

On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 5:23 PM Scott Palmer  wrote:


On Apr 2, 2020, at 10:09 AM, Ernie Rael  wrote:

On 4/2/2020 6:31 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Hi all,

I propose we keep things short and sweet for JavaFX in NetCAT 12.0:

https://netbeans-vm.apache.org/synergy/client/app/#/specification/452

What do we think about the above -- now that we have Ernie's great work
done on the OpenJFX archetypes, in 12.0 Beta 2, the running and

debugging

should now be seamless.

There are four cases: IDE-JDK-version (8, 11+) vs JavaFX-version (8,

11+). In beta2 jdk8 is a mess with error badges and failed compiles. With
recent NB and archetype changes, which are in master and so should be in
beta3, all four combos should work cleanly.

I also ran into some problems with maven project creation (

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-4083), any maven project
not just fx. There's a PR pending/approved but it hasn't made it into
master yet. (hint)

What about Gradle-based JavaFX projects?



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Issues for first contributors?

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

There is an increased activity here, since I've started my holiday. I've 
also got some issues with potentially easy to fix for first 
contributors. I thought we could mark such issues and add a query yo the 
"How to Participate" section of our Wiki.


Maybe someone has an idea to encourage more QA involvement beside of the 
NetCat movement?


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Re: testing done?

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well it would be good to know which modules are you using, like you are 
developing some UI with Nod JS.


Also you could make some heapdump if you feel the slowness. ore even 
before and after that.


A sample project and steps to follow to reproduce the issue.

More details the better.

On 3/28/19 8:51 AM, pe...@webparity.net wrote:

I use WIN 10 PRO on all my machines.

My home system is a 2 TB drive, not SSD, my work computer is a 250 GB SSD drive.

My home system NB 10 seems to be "stable" for now... better than my work 
computer.

My Work computer has CARBON BLACK for the Anti-virus and I'm VPN to my 
corporate network through my home network.

My home system uses Trend Micro Titanium for Anti-virus.

The slowness is more on my work system (ACER LAPTOP) and my home computer is a 
2 year old HP Pavilion Desktop with 16 GB memory.

My work computer (ACER LAPTOP) has only 8 GB memory.

Whatever else you need, I'll send.

Thank you


Peter Borreggine
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Angular/Bootstrap/NodeJS/Databases/HTML5/CSS3/Responsive Web Design/SEO
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Cc: Geertjan Wielenga ; joe schmo 
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Subject: Re: testing done?

Well, let’s start by understanding your environment. Which operating system are 
you on? Which JDK?

Gj

On Thu, 28 Mar 2019 at 15:30,  wrote:


Also, when I click SAVE, it takes forever or not at all and I have to
KILL NBs.

I'm running NB's on a 250 gb SSD Drive so there's NO excuse for this
not working.  I don't understand, people.

Please advise because 10 and 11 for me are NOT reliable.


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Subject: RE: testing done?

All,

I'm experiencing a lag when using NB 10. I format and get a message,
"it's taking too long..."

Scrolling is DELAYED... 1 - 3s...

I've changed the -J-Xms1024m but boosting it up to 2048 like I did for
NB
8.2 which works without issues.  NB 10 and 11 LOCKS UP after a while
and have to close it with Task Manager.

I click Garbage collection and the number stays around 748/1024.

I’m concerned that I can't use the best of NB 10 and 11 but cannot. I
have to revert back to using 8.2 since 10 and 11 are not stable...

ANY SUGGESTIONS would be greatly appreciated. I've been using NB since
2013. My company is pushing me to use InteliJ and Eclipse, both which SUCK!

Thoughts, please?

netbeans_default_options="-J-XX:+UseStringDeduplication -J-Xss2m
-J-Xms1024m -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2
-J-Dapple.laf.useScreenMenuBar=true
-J-Dapple.awt.graphics.UseQuartz=true -J-Dsun.java2d.noddraw=true
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-J--add-opens=java.desktop/javax.swing=ALL-UNNAMED
-J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt=ALL-UNNAMED
-J--add-opens=java.desktop/java.awt.event=ALL-UNNAMED
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Re: Prepare for Apache NetBeans 11.0 vc4

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

The 11.0-vc4 files are here:

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-11.0-vc4/

The Apache Wiki seems to be down/inaccessible at the moment. I need to 
update the release page on the vc4 info before sending out the vote thread.


So if you feel safe to start the community survey with that binary 
above, then go for it. I have some errands to do now, so I can act on 
the wiki and the vote thread later today.


On 3/19/19 10:50 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
And unless there are objections I'd like to start the PPMC vote thread 
for Apache NetBeans 11 as soon as vc4 is available -- which means the 
Community Acceptance Survey will run in parallel with the vote thread 
on the dev alias.


Gj

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 2:43 PM Jiří Kovalský 
mailto:jiri.koval...@oracle.com>> wrote:


Thanks for the update Laszlo. I have the Community Acceptance survey
prepared so please ping me when the URL [1] starts to work and I will
open the survey.

[1]

https://dist.apache.org/repos/dist/dev/incubator/netbeans/incubating-netbeans/incubating-11.0-vc4/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc4-bin.zip

-Jirka

Dne 17. 03. 19 v 1:45 Laszlo Kishalmi napsal(a):

> Dear all,
>
> It seems we are really close to our vc4 date. We are standing
pretty
> good, the only real blocker
>

https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__issues.apache.org_jira_browse_NETBEANS-2D2246=DwICaQ=RoP1YumCXCgaWHvlZYR8PZh8Bv7qIrMUB65eapI_JnE=8_Pz0x0SKeT5e3IehhQKCbQ2xl3tz40jnCU133NrdP4=D_SCGSI88_vryEPi2suejMXlCxO1v0ggM2qM_HDeMRw=lNiOHdm_r4IYcn6adAvyWDbcvdQiQUjqnddYDbCwUZ4=

> is almost ready.
>
> If you know anything else that should make into this release,
please
> speak up, I'm going to do the PRs and some testing later today and
> create vc4 tomorrow. This time we are going to vote on that as
well. I
> know Geertjan is working hard to arrange everything for the
graduation,
> but that seems to happen more likely in April, than this March,
so we
> are going to make the incubator dance this time.
>
> Please remember:
>
> Whatever PR you feel is needed to be included into the release
shall be
> marked with *Need Cherry Picking* label on GitHub!
>
>
> Laszlo Kishalmi
>
> Volunteer RM of Apache NetBeans 11.0
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Prepare for Apache NetBeans 11.0 vc4

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

It seems we are really close to our vc4 date. We are standing pretty 
good, the only real blocker 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2246 is almost ready.


If you know anything else that should make into this release, please 
speak up, I'm going to do the PRs and some testing later today and 
create vc4 tomorrow. This time we are going to vote on that as well. I 
know Geertjan is working hard to arrange everything for the graduation, 
but that seems to happen more likely in April, than this March, so we 
are going to make the incubator dance this time.


Please remember:

Whatever PR you feel is needed to be included into the release shall be 
marked with *Need Cherry Picking* label on GitHub!



Laszlo Kishalmi

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Apache NetBeans 11.0-vc3 Is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear Community,

I'd like to announce that the third build for testing form release110 
branch is available for download.


We are very close to the RC and I'd wish that this build could reach an 
RC quality, but there are a few glitches to patch and I'm going to 
travel in the next few days. So this build is again for testing purpose 
only, we are not going to do the release dance and voting around it.


Right now the redirect of the plugin portal 11.0 is not yet in place so 
you need to add the 10.0 plugin portal to be able to use the Oracle JS 
parser:


The link of the 10.0 Plugin Portal is: 
http://plugins.netbeans.org/nbpluginportal/updates/10.0/catalog.xml.gz


See the artifacts here:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/395/artifact/dist/

This time please check the source package, build-ability, licensing etc. 
as well:


https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/395/artifact/dist/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc3-source.zip

RAT Report: 
https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/395/artifact/rat-release-temp/nbbuild/build/rat-report.txt


The binary you most likely need is:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/395/artifact/dist/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc3-bin.zip

The SHA512 sums if you would like to check them are provided there as 
well as here:


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Prepare for Apache NetBeans 11.0 vc3

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

First of all thank you for the increased activity, PR-s are getting 
approved and merged!


Initially we started this release cycle with about one week slide, I 
think cutting a vc3 tomorrow with at least 11 new PR included would put 
us back on the track.


Please also start to concentrate on our blocker issues! I'm going to 
send out a more detailed summary on them after this mail.


Please remember:

Whatever PR you feel is needed to be included into the release shall be 
marked with *Need Cherry Picking* label on GitHub!



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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0-vc2 Is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well, that rule has been announced with the "Apache NetBeans 11.0 has 
been Branched!" email as:


Also from now on, whatever PR you feel is needed to be included into the 
release shall be marked with *Need Cherry Picking* label on GitHub!


I'm going to add the reminder for the "Prepare for ..." emails.

FYI: The workflow I (we) follow is:

1. Generally PR-s going to hit master first

2. If someone thinks that PR has to be merged to the release branch put 
a *Need Cherry Picking* label on it


3. From time to time, I've collect those merged and marked PR-s and do 
the cherry pick. I remove the *Need Cherry Picking* label from the PR.


4. If I'm facing with some merge issues, I contact the author to create 
a separate PR based on the release branch.


5. In some cases (like update the splash screen) PR-s only valid to the 
release branch, so simple merge would do.




On 2/27/19 8:59 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
Great! I made a mistake — should have merged the Oracle JS Parser 
enablement so that it could have been tried out, and a few others. 
Maybe a quick mail from the RM two or three days prior to doing the vc 
to remind that only merged prs marked for cherry picking will be 
cherry picked.


But my bad for not merging mine.

Gj


On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Laszlo Kishalmi 
mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I'm sorry I was late with the administration.

I've taken care of the cherry picks for the merged and closed PR-s
as always.

I've updated the release page with the details.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0
<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0>

On 2/27/19 12:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Awesome!

Has everything marked as needing cherry picking been cherry
picked?

What is the difference between vc2 and vc1, i.e., what issues
and pull
requests are included?

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Laszlo Kishalmi
mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>>
wrote:

Dear Community,

I'd like to announce that the second build for testing
form release110
branch is available for download.

As this build is again for testing purpose only, we are
not going to do
the release dance and voting around it.

See the artifacts here:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/389
<https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/389>
/artifact/dist/

The binary you most likely need is:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/389
<https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/389>
/artifact/dist/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc2-bin.zip

The SHA512 sums if you would like to check them are
provided there as well
as here:

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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0-vc2 Is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

I'm sorry I was late with the administration.

I've taken care of the cherry picks for the merged and closed PR-s as 
always.


I've updated the release page with the details.

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0


On 2/27/19 12:14 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

Awesome!

Has everything marked as needing cherry picking been cherry picked?

What is the difference between vc2 and vc1, i.e., what issues and pull
requests are included?

Gj

On Wednesday, February 27, 2019, Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:


Dear Community,

I'd like to announce that the second build for testing form release110
branch is available for download.

As this build is again for testing purpose only, we are not going to do
the release dance and voting around it.

See the artifacts here:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/389
/artifact/dist/

The binary you most likely need is:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/389
/artifact/dist/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc2-bin.zip

The SHA512 sums if you would like to check them are provided there as well
as here:

079f672f17cf408ceb5cdece874da74cd544bd8681e8aba30c6d919c10a3
0f8f452006619615030cd1e9b0702d5a5424e48f44aec066acf29f0d3d338adfafd9
./incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc2-bin.zip
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Apache NetBeans 11.0-vc2 Is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear Community,

I'd like to announce that the second build for testing form release110 
branch is available for download.


As this build is again for testing purpose only, we are not going to do 
the release dance and voting around it.


See the artifacts here:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/389/artifact/dist/

The binary you most likely need is:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/389/artifact/dist/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc2-bin.zip

The SHA512 sums if you would like to check them are provided there as 
well as here:


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Apache NetBeans 11.0-vc1 Is Available for Testing!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear Community,

I'd like to announce that the first build for testing form release110 
branch is available for download.


As this build is for testing purpose only, we are not going to do the 
release dance and voting around it.


See the artifacts here:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/384/artifact/dist/

The binary you most likely need is:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/384/artifact/dist/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc1-bin.zip

The SHA512 sums if you would like to check them are provided there as 
well as here:


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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 has been Branched!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Glad to hear!

Thank you for the feedback!

It seems I had some weird issue and needed to reboot my machine to get 
the nb-javac installed correctly, which is really weird for Ubuntu. 
(Though I got a stale NFS drive mount in the system.)


On 2/13/19 9:01 AM, Eduardo Quintanilla wrote:

The nb-javac installation is working for me.

Product Version: Apache NetBeans IDE Dev (Build 
incubator-netbeans-release-384-on-20190213)
Java: 1.8.0_191; Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM 25.191-b12
Runtime: Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment 1.8.0_191-b12
System: Windows 10 version 10.0 running on amd64; Cp1252; en_US (nb)

Eduardo Quintanilla
Software Developer
Block Networks

-Original Message-
From: Geertjan Wielenga 
Sent: miércoles, 13 de febrero de 2019 10:46 a. m.
To: Laszlo Kishalmi 
Cc: netcat 
Subject: Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 has been Branched!

For me, it works fine, I have it all set up and everything enabled.

Gj

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 5:34 PM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:


Well, there is a reason why I haven't "announced" it yet.

This version has an issue installing nb-javac library, at least for
me, AFAIK that makes most of the Java stuff un-testable.

Well if this is out, please check it, maybe it is just my local issue!

On 2/13/19 7:54 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

We appear to now have our first candidate, applicable for NetCAT and
any other testing we want to do, on a common basis:



https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/384/artifact/
dist/

In particular, use this one from the link above, the binary of
NetBeans

IDE

11.0 vc1:



https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/384/artifact/
dist/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc1-bin.zip

Gj

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 9:17 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Awesome!

Gj

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 8:47 AM Laszlo Kishalmi <

laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>

wrote:


Dear all,

With a little help and push on the PR-s, I've created the
release110 branch to host our Apache NetBeans 11.0 codeline.

The first vc1 is currently building from it. I still have to
check,

sign

and upload that to staging before the NetCat team (and anyone else
who would like to test it) can grab it.

Unfortunately it is nearly midnight for me, so I'm going to have
some sleep now.

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/384/

Laszlo Kishalmi


P.S.:

Also from now on, whatever PR you feel is needed to be included
into

the

release shall be marked with *Need Cherry Picking* label on GitHub!



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Re: Apache NetBeans 11.0 has been Branched!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well, there is a reason why I haven't "announced" it yet.

This version has an issue installing nb-javac library, at least for me, 
AFAIK that makes most of the Java stuff un-testable.


Well if this is out, please check it, maybe it is just my local issue!

On 2/13/19 7:54 AM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:

We appear to now have our first candidate, applicable for NetCAT and any
other testing we want to do, on a common basis:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/384/artifact/dist/

In particular, use this one from the link above, the binary of NetBeans IDE
11.0 vc1:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/384/artifact/dist/incubating-netbeans-11.0-vc1-bin.zip

Gj

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 9:17 AM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com> wrote:


Awesome!

Gj

On Wed, Feb 13, 2019 at 8:47 AM Laszlo Kishalmi 
wrote:


Dear all,

With a little help and push on the PR-s, I've created the release110
branch to host our Apache NetBeans 11.0 codeline.

The first vc1 is currently building from it. I still have to check, sign
and upload that to staging before the NetCat team (and anyone else who
would like to test it) can grab it.

Unfortunately it is nearly midnight for me, so I'm going to have some
sleep now.

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-release/384/

Laszlo Kishalmi


P.S.:

Also from now on, whatever PR you feel is needed to be included into the
release shall be marked with *Need Cherry Picking* label on GitHub!



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Re: Are we ready for branching for Apache NetBeans 11.0?

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

It seems we are having a shock that the branching for 11.0 is on our neck.

Please take some time and go over the PR-s, merge everything which makes 
sense.


As a last act of being assumed RM I've created the task for Apache 
NetBeans 11.0 Release by cloning the previous release task.


I really hope I've kept track of everything happened during the last 
release and shall be taking care of again:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-2052

On 2/3/19 11:33 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Dear all,

For most of the community it is already the 4th of February 2019.

According to our schedule 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0 
master shall be branched today.
I'm traveling from Oregon to California today, but later on I can do 
the branch later. Technically we can wait for 6th-7th with the branch, 
which I'd recommend seeing the state of the stranding PR-s.


Also we would need a Splash Screen prepared for Apache NetBeans 11.0 
and probably it would be good if the master would got its "Dev" Splash 
Screen back.


Also please check at leas the Blocker and Critical issues.

Thank you in advance!

Laszlo Kishalmi

Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans (hopefully not incubating 
this time) 11.0




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Are we ready for branching for Apache NetBeans 11.0

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

For most of the community it is already the 4th of February 2019.

According to our schedule 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11.0 
master shall be branched today.
I'm traveling from Oregon to California today, but later on I can do the 
branch later. Technically we can wait for 6th-7th with the branch, which 
I'd recommend seeing the state of the stranding PR-s.


Also we would need a Splash Screen prepared for Apache NetBeans 11.0 and 
probably it would be good if the master would got its "Dev" Splash 
Screen back.


Also please check at leas the Blocker and Critical issues.

Thank you in advance!

Laszlo Kishalmi

Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans (hopefully not incubating 
this time) 11.0



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Branching is around the corner!

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

According to our release schedule: 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Apache+NetBeans+11


The next release branch creation is less than two weeks from now!

Please create your PR-s also try to make them reviewed and merged!

As you know after the release branch has been created the PR's needs to 
be marked with cherry-pick to be considered to be included in the release.


Also I have not heard too much from the NetCat team recently, I wish 
they could update the Release Schedule table on the wiki.


Thank you!


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Gradle Support landed on master JIRA and NetCat updates are required

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

I've merged the Gradle Support into master. The first build with that:

https://builds.apache.org/job/incubator-netbeans-linux/975/artifact/nbbuild/

We need to add some components to our JIRA, unlike for Maven I'm 
thinking of one component called: *gradle-support* and later on probably 
gradle-javaee (or gradle-jakartaee whatever is trendy these days).


Also we need to came up with new tests for NetCat team.

Re: [DISCUSS] Apache NetBeans roadmap updates

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well, it is not that simple.

Having major plugins to have their own release means that you shall 
replicate at least some of the release infrastructure/process/people 
work for it.


On the other hand one of the greatest values of NetBeans is that it just 
works out of the box. Having some plugins create their own releases 
means moving to the Eclipse model as plugins might creating frictions 
from release to release between each other and the IDE. I had to listen 
countless discussions of my colleges which version of eclipse to use 
with which version of plugins, until the Eclipse distribution creators 
showed up. So I would not go that route.


Having two releases per year with 3 month patch releases sounds fair to me.

For those who want the new and shiny, there was always a possibility to 
use the development version.


 On 11/13/18 8:03 AM, Alexander Romanenko wrote:

Sorry if this was discussed before and I missed it.
Are there any reasons why major plugins cannot have their own release
schedule? From org perspective, i think (1) puts less pressure on testers
to test all features at once, including ones they are not familiar with.
(2) less pressure from users about not having access to plugins that are
"complete" months ago but have to wait for arbitrary global release date.

вт, 13 нояб. 2018 г. в 9:59, Neil C Smith :


On Tue, 13 Nov 2018, 14:16 Emilian Bold 
Two releases per year seems more manageable.


The point of 4 was to be more manageable though. Less changes, less
pressure for new features to meet deadlines (dropping 3 months less of an
issue)

I'm happy with either, but I don't think the current situation with lots of
changes / things still being donated is a good model for how this might
work once the dust settles.

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Re: Opinions after one week of use and PHPCS Fixer

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear Rodrigo,

First, I'm happy that you like Apache NetBeans.

Second, with the movement to Apache process, we have no development 
team. You could create a feature request, by having a JIRA account. You 
might have the chance that someone will pick it up, or better provide a 
PR with the feature implementation.


On 11/10/18 9:41 AM, Rodrigo Teixeira Andreotti wrote:

  Hello guys!
I've been using it for a week or so, VC3, it's working magnificently.

I am using it daily and it is much more polished than the last beta
available from oracle.

Today I was doing some testing with PHP CS Fixer, and this option since
netbeans 8.1 does not have many settings for execution.

For example, by default netbeans runs the tool using the --dry-run option,
which rolls the tool and generates an XML report with the diff, but the
tool is able to perform the on-the-fly changes, but in the netbeans does
not offer any context menu or location to configure this tool.

The ideal would be that in the context menu of the project we could select
if we just want to generate this report or already make the changes
directly in the code.

What do you think about it?

Members of the development team, could you insert a feature request for
this?

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Re: GTK UI and JDK 11

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well, according to the release notes the default setting on Windows 
should be "gasp" and on Linux should be "on", If you switch it to "gasp" 
on Linux then the anti-aliasing is gone.


On linux the rendering is also affected by the desktop font hinting 
policy, which (I do not know why) at least on Ubuntu is set to "Slight" 
If you set it to "Moderate" or "Full" the whole Linux UI got a better 
look including NetBeans fonts.


(Of course you need to use fonts which provides hints.)

On 11/6/18 9:20 AM, Aldo Brucale wrote:
I've found this answer on stackoverflow 
<https://stackoverflow.com/a/26882303/57441> suggesting to set 
-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=gasp. This setting seems to completely 
disable font anti-aliasing for all the UI elements, but to me it looks 
better than the other options. The anti-aliasing of the editor and 
output window fonts still doesn't look as good as it used to, but it's 
definitely usable.


On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 12:15, Aldo Brucale <mailto:bruc...@gmail.com>> wrote:


I've added a few screenshots to NETBEANS-1344

<https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344?focusedCommentId=16658817=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-16658817>

On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 18:07, Laszlo Kishalmi
mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Could you attach screenshots to
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344 showing
the difference between using Java 8, Java 10 and (Java 11 +
-J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 and -J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on)

I've just tested with Ubuntu 18.10 on Gnome 3 desktop.
NetBeans is kind of ugly even with the recommended settings.
Using Unity Desktop it looks as gorgeous as before. In order
to look consistently good, you need to use something else than
GTK LAF. Darcula works well.


On 10/18/2018 04:00 AM, Aldo Brucale wrote:

On Ubuntu 18.04 I've tried to set both
-J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 and
-J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on: Netbeans surely looks
better, but still not enough for my daily work. Except for
the tests, I'll stick with Java 8 or 10 for now.

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:00, Neil C Smith
    mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>> wrote:

On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 06:51, Laszlo Kishalmi
mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Blame JDK and Gnome.

I realise there are some open JDK bugs, but are we sure
how much is
JDK?  There's a lot of stuff going on in o.n.swing.plaf -
just
wondering if there's stuff going on in GtkLFCustoms
that's making
assumptions that no longer apply with GTK3?


https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/platform/o.n.swing.plaf/src/org/netbeans/swing/plaf/gtk

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NetBeans 10.0 Release Status (prepare for vc3)

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

We had quite an eventful week behind, some of you spent that 
testing/patching up the 10.0-vc2 release. Thank you for that!


Well according to our JIRA all blocker bugs are gone, and I've finished 
cherry picking every changes from master, the new Windows launchers have 
arrived as well, thanks to Jan. So I feel really good about our upcoming 
10.0.


I'm about to cut another voting candidate (I regard that as and rc1 now) 
tomorrow/day after tomorrow.

(Well I'm going to travel a lot tomorrow from Oregon to California by car)

There is only one PR I'd draw attention to which could make into the 10.0:

[NETBEANS-1576] PHP autocompletion partially broken 
(https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/1002)



Any other reasoned suggestion are welcome.

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Re: Some of my thought regarding NetCAT 10

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Can we have the ... part?

BTW, Could we just label the issues with NetCat (or maybe NetCat11) in 
the future NetCat processes?


I would like to add a public filter on NetCat issues and include in my 
dashboard:


https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/Dashboard.jspa?selectPageId=12332552


On 11/2/18 1:50 AM, mic...@owsiak.org wrote:

I guess, something like this, would be pretty close if we don't have tags and 
are still willing to filter NetCAT based bugs:


project = NETBEANS and createdDate  >= '2018/10/8' and createdDate <= 
'2018/10/31' and reporter in ('mkowsiak', 'jkovalsky', 'geertjan', 'alextech', ...) 
ORDER BY created DESC


Michal


Dnia 1 listopada 2018 o 12:10 Geertjan Wielenga 
 napisał(a):


Is there a way to get a list of all the issues filed through the NetCAT
program?

Gj

On Thu, Nov 1, 2018 at 9:36 AM  wrote:


Hello Jiri, hello Alexander,

here are my thoughts.


1. Tickets in strange state

The luxury of dedicated people paid by Sun/Oracle to pay attention to
bugs, develop features, respond to e-mails and the like are gone. With
the same argument statement "...the dev team cannot address each
issue..." makes no sense because there is no dev team. The dev team is
you.

I am afraid I support Alexander here. I bet there are people who have no
idea how to code using Java, yet still use NetBeans (e.g. PHP, HTML, C/C++).


Complaining about issues being ignored equals showing own
misunderstanding how open source software development works. Good news
is that you can filter the issues reported in October, trying to
reproduce them one by one, adding your investigations and setting their
status and/or priorities correctly. When do you plan to do that?

I also got impression (from what I have read on pages dedicated to the
process) that we should focus on testing only.

But, at the same time, I agree with you, Jiri. If there are no dedicated
developers anymore (I mean, people who are actually paid for developing
NetBeans), then, solving issues lays on volunteers and I won't raise this
kind of objections (not tackling the issues in Jira). Simply, the landscape
of NetBeans has changed and I need to adapt to it.


2. Tribe leaders are useless

I am afraid I disagree. True tribe leaders are precious asset for
NetCAT. They simply act as managers, communicating with their tribe
members, finding their strengths/weaknesses, then distributing the work
load, periodically checking the status/progress, reminding about
incomplete tasks, triaging issues, escalating the most serious ones to
the NetCAT program coordinators, organizing meetups, etc. If these do
not exist, everything falls on plates of NetCAT program coordinators
which are obviously overloaded which leaves NetCAT participants with
impression of chaos, ignorance or frustration.

OK, maybe it's still happening, maybe all these activities are still
taking place, but, to be honest, I haven't seen that this time that much.

I remember older editions of NetCAT, with weekly reports summarizing
activities, providing information to whole team, so it knew where it was
standing at any, given, time. So, this time, I thought that NetCAT was
targeted more towards solo players who want to decide for themselves how to
update docs, what to choose for testing, etc. Which, in fact, suits me
better :)

Michal

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Re: Internacionalization

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

There was a I18N support in NetBeans. AFAIK that will be in the 3rd 
donation from Oracle. It is going to land in our sourcetree soon. Till 
than just be prepared!


On 10/31/18 7:05 AM, Rodrigo Teixeira Andreotti wrote:

Hello!

is there any plan for the internationalization of Apache Netbeans?
If so, how can I help?
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Re: [editor] Appearance

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Right now I have no other idea than, mark:

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344

as BLOCKER and add -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 to the default command line 
parameters. It improves the UI on GTK+ LAF a lot, however still not 
perfect. It is going to be in 10.0 VC2.


On 10/26/18 12:33 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

On 10/26/2018 02:23 PM, Leo Donahue wrote:

In my NetBeans 10.0-vc1 (GTK+), I don't see check box outlines, or radio
buttons and on dialogs with scroll bars, those are also not visible (not
shown in this screenshot).

Apache NetBeans IDE Dev (Build incubator-netbeans-release-345-on-20181002)
Debian GNU/Linux 9.5 (stretch)
Linux 4.9.0-8-amd64 x86_64
openjdk version "11.0.1" 2018-10-16

image.png

Image didn't appear to make it through. Is it this?

https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344



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Re: Possible to add smooths scrolling to NB 10.0?

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

As there was no objection, I'm going to cherry pick the smooth scrolling 
into our release100 branch.



On 10/22/18 9:21 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Hi NetCat Team!

What do you say about this?

Talking with Geertjan we are about to cut another VC at the end of 
this week or early next week.


That one is going to have the new Windows Launchers as well.

On 10/15/18 5:04 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

Hello NetCATters,

If you haven't seen it, this came up on the dev list:

On 10/15/2018 11:17 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:
The real question is how it is affect the current NetCat process. If 
the
NetCat people fine with this cherry pick, then I'm good to go with 
this.

Can the people who've completed some editor testing have a look and make
sure this doesn't introduce any regressions? And those who reviewed the
test spec, does this need any additional wording to verify that the
feature works properly? The JIRA link below explains what's being 
changed.



On 10/15/2018 03:12 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:

in General I thought, that this feature:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-49 went into the NB
10.0 branch but it didn’t. Is it possible to cherry pick it anyway to
bring it up into NB 10.0 or not? Here is the PR for it:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/881 it was still
merged so it Needs a Cherry Pick.


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NetBeans 10.0vc2 is around the corner

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Dear all,

There were a bunch of changes landed in our release branch.
I'm going to cut another VC on Sunday night (It would be Monday morning 
in Europe)


I'd love to ship the new Windows Launchers as well, but I'm not going to 
delay the VC due to that.



Be prepared!

Laszlo Kishalmi

Volunteer Release Manager of Apache NetBeans 10.0


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Re: Possible to add smooths scrolling to NB 10.0?

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Hi NetCat Team!

What do you say about this?

Talking with Geertjan we are about to cut another VC at the end of this 
week or early next week.


That one is going to have the new Windows Launchers as well.

On 10/15/18 5:04 PM, Glenn Holmer wrote:

Hello NetCATters,

If you haven't seen it, this came up on the dev list:

On 10/15/2018 11:17 AM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

The real question is how it is affect the current NetCat process. If the
NetCat people fine with this cherry pick, then I'm good to go with this.

Can the people who've completed some editor testing have a look and make
sure this doesn't introduce any regressions? And those who reviewed the
test spec, does this need any additional wording to verify that the
feature works properly? The JIRA link below explains what's being changed.


On 10/15/2018 03:12 AM, Christian Lenz wrote:

in General I thought, that this feature:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-49 went into the NB
10.0 branch but it didn’t. Is it possible to cherry pick it anyway to
bring it up into NB 10.0 or not? Here is the PR for it:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/881 it was still
merged so it Needs a Cherry Pick.


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Re: GTK UI and JDK 11

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Could you attach screenshots to 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344  showing the 
difference between using Java 8, Java 10  and (Java 11 + 
-J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 and -J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on)


I've just tested with Ubuntu 18.10 on Gnome 3 desktop. NetBeans is kind 
of ugly even with the recommended settings. Using Unity Desktop it looks 
as gorgeous as before. In order to look consistently good, you need to 
use something else than GTK LAF. Darcula works well.



On 10/18/2018 04:00 AM, Aldo Brucale wrote:
On Ubuntu 18.04 I've tried to set both -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 and 
-J-Dawt.useSystemAAFontSettings=on: Netbeans surely looks better, but 
still not enough for my daily work. Except for the tests, I'll stick 
with Java 8 or 10 for now.


On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 11:00, Neil C Smith <mailto:neilcsm...@apache.org>> wrote:


On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 at 06:51, Laszlo Kishalmi
mailto:laszlo.kisha...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Blame JDK and Gnome.

I realise there are some open JDK bugs, but are we sure how much is
JDK?  There's a lot of stuff going on in o.n.swing.plaf - just
wondering if there's stuff going on in GtkLFCustoms that's making
assumptions that no longer apply with GTK3?


https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/master/platform/o.n.swing.plaf/src/org/netbeans/swing/plaf/gtk

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Re: GTK UI and JDK 11

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Blame JDK and Gnome.


On 10/16/2018 09:08 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

hmmm, just for me to know whom to curse; is this JDK's fault or Netbeans
fault? or all of the above?

On 10/15/18 8:59 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Well, hopefully it get fixed in JDK 12

(And maybe backported to this LTS)

Thill then I guess raise this issue as blocker and we are going to
force Gnone 2 to default.


On 10/15/2018 04:55 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

Yes, I can confirm it works. The GTK3 look has potential though.

On 10/15/18 8:47 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Could you confirm, that the proposed workaroung
-J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 works?


On 10/15/2018 04:31 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

Thanks Lazlo. Just updated it with my screenshots. This is very
important. Usability issues aside; I wouldn't show Netbeans at my
IntelIJ-shop office as it is.

On 10/15/18 7:46 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Found the JIRA as well:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344


On 10/15/2018 03:15 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

Is there anyone looking at Netbeans in Linux, GTK L and JDK 11? In
general it's beautiful, but there are a few annoyances. I can upload
some before/after pictures or create a new Jira ticket if there's
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Re: GTK UI and JDK 11

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Well, hopefully it get fixed in JDK 12

(And maybe backported to this LTS)

Thill then I guess raise this issue as blocker and we are going to force 
Gnone 2 to default.



On 10/15/2018 04:55 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

Yes, I can confirm it works. The GTK3 look has potential though.

On 10/15/18 8:47 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Could you confirm, that the proposed workaroung
-J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 works?


On 10/15/2018 04:31 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

Thanks Lazlo. Just updated it with my screenshots. This is very
important. Usability issues aside; I wouldn't show Netbeans at my
IntelIJ-shop office as it is.

On 10/15/18 7:46 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Found the JIRA as well:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344


On 10/15/2018 03:15 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

Is there anyone looking at Netbeans in Linux, GTK L and JDK 11? In
general it's beautiful, but there are a few annoyances. I can upload
some before/after pictures or create a new Jira ticket if there's
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Re: GTK UI and JDK 11

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

Could you confirm, that the proposed workaroung -J-Djdk.gtk.version=2.2 
works?



On 10/15/2018 04:31 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

Thanks Lazlo. Just updated it with my screenshots. This is very
important. Usability issues aside; I wouldn't show Netbeans at my
IntelIJ-shop office as it is.

On 10/15/18 7:46 PM, Laszlo Kishalmi wrote:

Found the JIRA as well:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344


On 10/15/2018 03:15 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

Is there anyone looking at Netbeans in Linux, GTK L and JDK 11? In
general it's beautiful, but there are a few annoyances. I can upload
some before/after pictures or create a new Jira ticket if there's
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Re: GTK UI and JDK 11

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Found the JIRA as well: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/NETBEANS-1344


On 10/15/2018 03:15 PM, Alied Pérez Martínez wrote:

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Re: GTK UI and JDK 11

[Laszlo Kishalmi]

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Look+and+Feel+Issues

There is no JIRA issues created so far though.
On Ubuntu it is not beautiful at all.



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