Re: [NTG-context] Thumb indexes

2005-02-15 Thread cormullion
h h extern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said on 2005-02-13, 15:18 (+0100 GMT):

> \unprotected \def\rawsectionnumber#1{\countervalue{\??se#1}} % will be in 
> kernel
> [...] 

Awesome (and scary) stuff. Works great, too.

> you may only read this answer if you also put it in the wiki

OK, Iâll have a go.

Thanks for your help again.
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[NTG-context] texsync - help

2005-02-15 Thread Ciro A. Soto
I just discover the existance of texsync by browsing
the manuals.
I tried to update the manuals and it worked fine in a
$HOME/tmp directory.

I am kind of skeptical in updating the whole context
installation because I don't know the proper
destination option.

I installed tex using texlive2004, and it created a
directory /usr/local/texlive2004/  in my Fedora3
linux.

I wonder if the following command would do
the job wihout harm:
 
texsync --full --update --force
--destination=/usr/local/texlive2004

and what else should I do afterward.

thank you
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Re: [NTG-context] Typesetting products and components

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote:
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Randall Skelton wrote:

Is it possible to determine if texexec is being run on a product or a
component and have optional processing similar to different modes?

\ifx\currentproduct\empty
no product defined
\else
the product is \currentproduct
\fi
ah, that's indeed an option,
\doifelsenothing\currentproduct
  {no product defined}
  {the product is \currentproduct}
is a bit more robust (esp if currentproduct is something {bla\macro bla}
in that case, a quite readable approach is:
\startsetups todo:product:nop
  
\stopsetups
\startsetups todo:product:yes
  
\stopsetups
\doifelsenothing\currentproduct
  {\setups[todo:product:nop]}
  {\setups[todo:product:yes]}
or as variant on your ifx, a one-liner:
\setups[todo:product:\ifx\currentproduct\empty nop\else yes\fi]

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
missed one:
hyph_size.context = 1000 % hyphenation exceptions
ah, i didn't know that one, thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Typesetting products and components

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Randall Skelton wrote:
generated for the set of components.  Is it appropriate to want to do
this or have I misunderstood the role of projects, products and
components entirely.
as long as you understand the logic behind your choices it;s ok
I'll add a system mode: (put this in cont-new.tex)
\startvariables  dutch english
 germanczech
 italian   romanian
environment: omgeving  environment
 umgebung  prostredi
 ambiente  mediu
  component: onderdeel component
 komponentekomponenta
 componentecomponenta
product: produkt   product
 produkt   produkt
 prodotto  produs
project: project   project
 projekt   projekt
 progetto  proiect
\stopvariables
\unprotect
\let\currentcomponent\v!text
\def\donextlevel#1#2#3#4#5#6#7\\%
  {\pushmacro\currentcomponent
   \let\currentcomponent#1
   \setsystemmode\currentcomponent
   \beforesplitstring#7\at.\to#2\relax
   \ifcase\filelevel\relax
 \starttext
 \def\project ##1 {#3{##1}}%
 \def\environment ##1 {#4{##1}}%
 \def\product ##1 {#5{##1}}%
 \def\component   ##1 {#6{##1}}%
   \fi
   \increment\filelevel\relax
   \fullexpandoneargafter\addtocommalist{#1}\loadedfiles}
\def\doprevlevel
  {\popmacro\currentcomponent
   \setsystemmode\currentcomponent
   \ifnum\filelevel=\plusone
 \expandafter\stoptext
   \else
 \decrement\filelevel\relax
 \expandafter\endinput
   \fi}
\def\startproject #1 %
  {\donextlevel\v!project\currentproject
 \donotexecutefile\doexecutefileonce
 \doexecutefileonce\doexecutefile#1\\}
\def\startproduct #1 %
  {\doateverystarttext
   \donextlevel\v!product\currentproduct
 \doexecutefileonce\doexecutefileonce
 \donotexecutefile\doexecutefile#1\\}
\def\startcomponent #1 %
  {\doateverystarttext
   \donextlevel\v!component\currentcomponent
 \doexecutefileonce\doexecutefileonce
 \donotexecutefile\doexecutefile#1\\}
\def\startenvironment #1 %
  {\donextlevel\v!environment\currentenvironment
 \donotexecutefile\doexecutefileonce
 \donotexecutefile\donotexecutefile#1\\}
\protect
\starttext
% \startproject test
% 1: \startmode[*project] project \stopmode \endgraf
% 2: \startmode[*product] product \stopmode \endgraf
% \stopproject
\startproduct test
1: \startmode[*project] project \stopmode \endgraf
2: \startmode[*product] product \stopmode \endgraf
\stopproduct
\stoptext

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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs in starttables

2005-02-15 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Peter Münster wrote:
> 
> > Here is some code, that I tried, but without success:
> 
> how ancient is your context?

 TeXExec 5.2.4 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

executable : pdfetex
format : cont-en
 inputfile : test
output : standard
 interface : en
  current mode : none
   TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.4)
 (/opt/teTeX/texmf-dist/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2005.2.15  int: english  mes: english



"Without success" means: I don't get anything similar to \starttablehead or
\starttabletail

The head and the foot appear, but not on each page. I think, I just don't
know how to use all these command the right way...

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list

2005-02-15 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Hans Hagen wrote:
Jack M. Lyon wrote:
locate and edit:
 kpsewhich texmf.cnf
(or: texmfstart --direct  kpse:texf.cnf)
adapt:
missed one:
hyph_size.context = 1000 % hyphenation exceptions
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Re: [NTG-context] Typesetting products and components

2005-02-15 Thread Peter Münster
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Randall Skelton wrote:

> Is it possible to determine if texexec is being run on a product or a
> component and have optional processing similar to different modes?

\ifx\currentproduct\empty
no product defined
\else
the product is \currentproduct
\fi

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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs in starttables

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Münster wrote:
Here is some code, that I tried, but without success:
how ancient is your context?
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] What's (in) a module?

2005-02-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
On Feb 15, 2005, at 6:32 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:
It's a file in my $HOMETEXMF which doesn't have lsR files. I ran 
mktexlsr nevertheless, but to no avail. I really fail to 
understand...
weird; can you run with: \tracefilestrue
Ha! That did it! tracefiles showed that ConTeXt was expecting a file 
name with six or less characters after t-; my module was called 
t-utfgreek, so ConTeXt was looking for t-utfgre and couldn't find it. 
Renaming to t-utfgre.tex solved the problem. Is this restriction 
hard-coded into the core or could it be changed somewhere?

So what about that CTAN directory? Would be a good idea, right?
Best
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Re: [NTG-context] paragraphs in starttables

2005-02-15 Thread Peter Münster
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005, Hans Hagen wrote:

> bTABle ... it can split if you say
> 
> \setupTABLE[split=yes] % splitmethod=a|b
> 
> you can make head, foot and body sections as well as define alternative
> headers for the split off parts

Ok, I'm going to try bTABLE. How can I define header and tail for each
page? Is there any reference for this table type, I only found enattab.pdf
with some examples.
Here is some code, that I tried, but without success:

\starttext

\bTABLE[split=yes,splitmethod=a] % splitmethod=b gives an error

\bTABLEhead
\bTR \bTD top of the page \eTD \eTR
\eTABLEhead

\bTABLEfoot
\bTR \bTD bottom of the page \eTD \eTR
\eTABLEfoot

\bTABLEnext
\bTR \bTD next one \eTD \eTR
\eTABLEnext

\bTABLEbody
\dorecurse{50}{\bTR \bTD the body \eTD \eTR}
\eTABLEbody

\eTABLE

\stoptext

TIA for any help.
Greetings, Peter

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Jack M. Lyon wrote:
locate and edit:
 kpsewhich texmf.cnf
(or: texmfstart --direct  kpse:texf.cnf)
adapt:
buf_size.context =  20 % needed for omega bug
extra_mem_bot.context= 200
extra_mem_top.context= 400
font_max.context =2000
font_mem_size.context= 100
hash_extra.context   =   65000
main_memory.context  = 150
max_strings.context  =  20
nest_size.context= 500
obj_tab_size.context =  30 % 8388607
pdf_mem_size.context =  50 % 524288
dest_names_size.context  =  30 % 131072
param_size.context   =   1
pool_free.context=   47500
pool_size.context= 125
save_size.context=   5
stack_size.context   =   1
string_vacancies.context =   9
trie_size.context=  25 % patterns
regenerate the formats since they depend on such settings
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Re: [NTG-context] What's (in) a module?

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:
It's a file in my $HOMETEXMF which doesn't have lsR files. I ran 
mktexlsr nevertheless, but to no avail. I really fail to understand...
weird; can you run with: \tracefilestrue
I guess Adam was in touch with you. unicode vectors and modules for 
adding support for utf extended Greek are approaching completion. Maybe 
we can think where to put the stuff (five fonts at least). Maybe a 
CTAN/Context directory would be a good thing.
indeed
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Re: [NTG-context] What's (in) a module?

2005-02-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
On Feb 15, 2005, at 5:32 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:
1. What constitutes a module? I wrote a couple of definitions and put 
them in a file t-foo.tex. When I write "\input t-foo" in the preamble 
of my document, everything works fine (so the file is found by TeX). 
When I say \usemodule[t-foo] or \usemodule[foo], I get "system
  : no macros found in module foo" and, obviously, "undefined control 
sequence." So: is there any special form for a module? I'm very 
curious because I defined a set of similar macros in another module, 
and everything works fine.
did you run mktexlsr?
It's a file in my $HOMETEXMF which doesn't have lsR files. I ran 
mktexlsr nevertheless, but to no avail. I really fail to understand...


2. Is it possible to use a certain encoding file, enco-bar.tex, for 
parts of a file only? Could one define a macro (in a module???) that 
would do something like \switchtoencoding[bar] and switch back to the 
file's default encoding afterwards?
you're talking about font encodings?
\definetypeface [PalatinoA] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] 
[encoding=texnansi]

\definetypeface [PalatinoB] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] 
[encoding=ec]

Yes, I'm talking about font encodings. For the utf greek stuff, I 
defined a file enco-agr to provide the named glyphs, which I call by 
adding \useencoding[agr]. But I just realized that this will only add 
these named files, not overload the other names in the default 
encoding, so I guess that's a non-problem after all.

I guess Adam was in touch with you. unicode vectors and modules for 
adding support for utf extended Greek are approaching completion. Maybe 
we can think where to put the stuff (five fonts at least). Maybe a 
CTAN/Context directory would be a good thing.

Thanks
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] What's (in) a module?

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A.Schmitz wrote:
1. What constitutes a module? I wrote a couple of definitions and put 
them in a file t-foo.tex. When I write "\input t-foo" in the preamble of 
my document, everything works fine (so the file is found by TeX). When I 
say \usemodule[t-foo] or \usemodule[foo], I get "system  : no 
macros found in module foo" and, obviously, "undefined control 
sequence." So: is there any special form for a module? I'm very curious 
because I defined a set of similar macros in another module, and 
everything works fine.
did you run mktexlsr?
2. Is it possible to use a certain encoding file, enco-bar.tex, for 
parts of a file only? Could one define a macro (in a module???) that 
would do something like \switchtoencoding[bar] and switch back to the 
file's default encoding afterwards?
you're talking about font encodings?
\definetypeface [PalatinoA] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] 
[encoding=texnansi]
\definetypeface [PalatinoB] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default] [encoding=ec]
works ok; typefaces live in their own namespace
if you're talking about input encoding, you can switch regimes whenever you want
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[NTG-context] What's (in) a module?

2005-02-15 Thread Thomas A . Schmitz
Two maybe related questions:
1. What constitutes a module? I wrote a couple of definitions and put 
them in a file t-foo.tex. When I write "\input t-foo" in the preamble 
of my document, everything works fine (so the file is found by TeX). 
When I say \usemodule[t-foo] or \usemodule[foo], I get "system  
: no macros found in module foo" and, obviously, "undefined control 
sequence." So: is there any special form for a module? I'm very curious 
because I defined a set of similar macros in another module, and 
everything works fine.

2. Is it possible to use a certain encoding file, enco-bar.tex, for 
parts of a file only? Could one define a macro (in a module???) that 
would do something like \switchtoencoding[bar] and switch back to the 
file's default encoding afterwards?

Thanks to all, best
Thomas
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Re: [NTG-context] Choosing an encoding - what are the consequences?

2005-02-15 Thread Adam Lindsay
Stefan Wachter said this at Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:38:02 +0100:

>I am on the burdensome path to understanding font handling in ConText. 
>Now I wonder what the consequences are with choosing certain encodings.

I'll give an answer based on what I understand. Mind you, I'm lucky
enough to write almost exclusively in English, where it's not an issue.

>For example if I choose "8a" encoding (called "Adobe standard encoding"):

Okay, as far as I know, ConTeXt doesn't have an 8a/Adobe encoding vector
defined yet.

>1. There are lots of empty slots in this encoding. What does ConText do 
>if a symbol that is to be typeset is not contained in an encoding?

It falls back to the enco-def encoding, where it substitutes or composes
a character from known (or expected) defaults.

>2. Can I ommit the 8a encoding in map files when PDF documents are 
>generated (because it is the Adobe standard encoding)?

Dunno. But it's worth finding out! :)

>3. Somewhere I read that "texnansi" is a preferred encoding. Why?

I think it's got the most useful (to Hans) glyphs packed in there. 
There's the secondary fact that the built-in fonts shipped with most
distributions don't include it, and Hans seems to view most pre-
fabricated TFM files with some suspicion. If you build a local TFM file
with texfont, then you know what you're getting!

But that's only my interpretation.
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[NTG-context] [Fwd: CTAN upload: URW Letter Gothic fonts]

2005-02-15 Thread Tobias Burnus
Hi,
yet another URW++ font - this time a typewriter font.
Tobias
 Original Message 
CTAN Announcements 
Send by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
11.02.2005 16:47
   To:   ctan-ann@dante.de
   Subject:  CTAN upload: URW Letter Gothic fonts
On Fri, 11 Feb 2005, Walter Schmidt upoloaded a bundel called
 lettergothic
containing:
(1) the PostScript font family Letter Gothic, which URW
has made available for free under the Aladdin Free Public
License, see 
(2) font metrics, macros etc. to use the fonts with LaTeX;
this material is released under LPPL
Because of the Aladdin license, the bundle has been installed in:
  nonfree/fonts/urw/lettergothic
Thanks for the upload.
For the CTAN Team
 Rainer Schöpf
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Jack M. Lyon wrote:
Sorry, the name of my file, is hyphen.tex, not hyphen.text. Slip of the
finger. :)
bad name, that will replace the main us hyphen file, which nowadays is called 
hyphen.tex (used to be ushyph ushyp1 ushyp2 and whatever)

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Jack M. Lyon wrote:
Ah, but now I run into another problem. ConTeXt will only accept about
twenty-two words in a list. I need to include about 100. Even if I use
multiple lists, it can't handle more words. Does anyone have a solution for
this? Maybe there's another way to set up a hyphenation exception list.
context? probably tex itself; what happens when you increse the mem settings in 
texmf.cnf?

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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Taco Hoekwater wrote:
Vit Zyka wrote:
 > ... should work
\input hyphenlist
\input hyphenlist.tex

And, with that filename, the next two variants will not work:
 \input{hyphenlist}
 \input{hyphenlist}.tex
That is, unless you went through the trouble of
creating a file with braces in the name ;-)
some time agho on this list someone was doing that -)
so, (unless i spoiled it again),
  \externalfigure[who{wants}such{names}.pdf]
should work
btw, the latest greatest tex binaries accept
\input "olderversionsonwindowsalreadyhadthisfeature"
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Re: [NTG-context] Hyphenation exception list

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Jack M. Lyon wrote:
Then, I'd like to keep these in a separate file that I can call from any
ConTeXt document, something like this:
\input{hyphenlist}
\input hyphenlist
or more robust
\readfile{hyphenlist}
  {\writestatus{myself}{loading went ok}}
  {\writestatus{myself}{i've messed up}}

When I try this, however (for a file named hyphenlist.text), I get this
error message:
! I can't find file `{hyph}'.
because that's not your filename (the {'s)
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Re: [NTG-context] patterns

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Willi Egger wrote:
After running mktexlsr I started texmfstart cxtools --patternfiles all
in the alpha-context/tex directory. All pat and hyp files where then 
transferred into a new directory ..\texmf-local\pattern. Again mktexlsr 
was run.
btw, i just made a more clever loader (fallbacks and such); will upload 
later
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[NTG-context] Choosing an encoding - what are the consequences?

2005-02-15 Thread Stefan Wachter
Hi all!
I am on the burdensome path to understanding font handling in ConText. 
Now I wonder what the consequences are with choosing certain encodings.

For example if I choose "8a" encoding (called "Adobe standard encoding"):
1. There are lots of empty slots in this encoding. What does ConText do 
if a symbol that is to be typeset is not contained in an encoding?

2. Can I ommit the 8a encoding in map files when PDF documents are 
generated (because it is the Adobe standard encoding)?

3. Somewhere I read that "texnansi" is a preferred encoding. Why?
Thanks for your attention,
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[NTG-context] Re: Why uses Context 8r encoding used instead of the specified ec encoding?

2005-02-15 Thread Stefan Wachter
Hi Thomas,
thanks for the wealth of information. I see much clearer now.
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Re: [NTG-context] patterns

2005-02-15 Thread Hans Hagen
Willi Egger wrote:
After running mktexlsr I started texmfstart cxtools --patternfiles all
in the alpha-context/tex directory. All pat and hyp files where then 
transferred into a new directory ..\texmf-local\pattern. Again mktexlsr 
was run.
texmf-local\pattern is not in the searchpath, so either put in in base or in 
parallel, like in:

texmf-local\tex\context\patterns
language: patterns cz for cz loaded (n=13,e=il2,m=il2)
(c:\ALPHA-~1\tex\texmf/tex/csplain/czhyphen.tex
! Undefined control sequence.
l.36 .a4d\'e
i'm a bit puzzled, because the old system should still work; maybe some mix up; 
anyway, the czech patterns are kind of special because they are in the wrong 
location in the texmf tree (czech patterns are a persistent problem, politics 
involved and such)

I know, that I am doing things, which I am unable to understand 
completely. Still I wonder what the problem is.
Hans
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