Re: [NTG-context] Command for specifying et al limit

2022-09-26 Thread Alan Braslau via ntg-context
On Mon, 26 Sep 2022 21:40:14 -0600
Alan Braslau via ntg-context  wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:25 +
> Jethro Djan via ntg-context  wrote:
> 
> > \setupbtx[
> >   dataset=ref,
> >   etaldisplay = 1,
> >   etallimit = 1,
> > ]
> 
> Remove extra spaces.

Sorry,

Try

\setupbtx
  [apa:list]
  [etaldisplay=1,
   etallimit=1]

and drop the 

\definebtxrendering
  [ref]


I have not tested your example, but the bibliography subsystem creates
many inherited namespaces, so changing parameters in a general
namespace after inheritance has occurred (in the definitions) has no
effect.

Of course, the etaldisplay and etallimits are set to the APA standard
in the APA definitions.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] Command for specifying et al limit

2022-09-26 Thread Alan Braslau via ntg-context
On Sat, 24 Sep 2022 18:57:25 +
Jethro Djan via ntg-context  wrote:

> \setupbtx[
>   dataset=ref,
>   etaldisplay = 1,
>   etallimit = 1,
> ]

Remove extra spaces.

Alan
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Re: [NTG-context] new hash for buffer (as file)

2022-09-26 Thread Max Chernoff via ntg-context
Hi Hans, Pablo,


> > But I do agree that the line ending handling seems a little odd. I find it
> > surprising that the buffers internally use CR line endings since no systems
> > in the past 20 years use that.
> 
> how about tex ...
> 
> \number\endlinechar
> \number\numexpr`M-`A+1\relax % plain sets up `^^M

Argh, how could I have forgotten about that. Yes, that makes complete
sense.

> > First, run "chcp 65001" before running "context" and record the size of the
> > file written. Then, run "chcp 1251" and run "context" again. Hopefully the
> > file size doesn't change; but if it does, then that means that the binary
> > content of any file written will depend on the system's default code page,
> > which would complicate making reproducible hashes.
>
> if that were the case nothing would work .. so it's bytes in - bytes out

Ok good, that's what I was expecting. I've unfortunately used some
programs that even fairly recently depended on the system code page, so
I'm always a little cautious.

> Hi Max,
> 
> I realized later that I was doing something wrong. My fault here.

Glad that you've figured it out.

> I thought that ConTeXt would output the same character encoding as in
> the source file when saving a buffer.

Yes, Hans confirmed that that is correct. 

Thanks,
-- Max


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Re: [NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/26/2022 11:04 PM, Angel M Alganza via ntg-context wrote:

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 10:44:55PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:


mtxrun --script pdf --info oeps.pdf


$ mtxrun --script pdf --info a6.pdf
mtx-pdf | filename  > a6.pdf
mtx-pdf | pdf version   > 1.7
mtx-pdf | major version > 1
mtx-pdf | minor version > 7
mtx-pdf | number of pages   > 1
mtx-pdf | title > a6
mtx-pdf | creator   > LuaMetaTeX 2.09 20220429 + ConTeXt 
LMTX 2022.05.11 11:36

mtx-pdf | producer  > LuaMetaTeX-2.09
mtx-pdf | author    > 
mtx-pdf | creation date > D:20220920071929+02'00'
mtx-pdf | modification date > D:20220920071929+02'00'
mtx-pdf | cropbox   > pages: 1-1, width: 841.889758, 
height: 595.27559



mtxrun --script pdf --fonts oeps.pdf


$ mtxrun --script pdf --fonts a6.pdf
mtx-pdf | id   basefont   encoding  
subtype   unicode characters
mtx-pdf | mtx-pdf | Fm1.F1   KBVQDT+LMRoman8-Regular
no encoding   Type0 no vector   , - A B C D F G H I J K L M N O P R 
S T V Z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v x y z Á á é í ñ ó ú
mtx-pdf | Fm1.F2   PISBZT+LMRoman6-Regular    no encoding   
Type0 no vector   M a d e i l n
mtx-pdf | Fm2.F1   KBVQDT+LMRoman8-Regular    no encoding   
Type0 no vector   , - A B C D F G H I J K L M N O P R S T V Z a b c 
d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v x y z Á á é í ñ ó ú
mtx-pdf | Fm3.F1   KBVQDT+LMRoman8-Regular    no encoding   
Type0 no vector   , - A B C D F G H I J K L M N O P R S T V Z a b c 
d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v x y z Á á é í ñ ó ú
mtx-pdf | Fm4.F3   VGDDRM+LMRoman12-Regular   no encoding   
Type0 no vector   0 2 3
mtx-pdf | Fm4.F4   BBBAHN+LMMono8-Regular no encoding   
Type0 no vector   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A D F J M N O S a b c e g h i 
l m n o p r s t u v y

mtx-pdf |

Does that help?

looks ok to me

Hans


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Re: [NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/26/2022 8:26 PM, Angel M Alganza via ntg-context wrote:


I didn't know any of the poppler-utils, thank you!


Otherwise, the only option about your documents is guessing.

mtxrun --script pdf --info oeps.pdf

mtxrun --script pdf --fonts oeps.pdf

the second one also shows what characters are in there

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Angel M Alganza via ntg-context

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 10:44:55PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:


mtxrun --script pdf --info oeps.pdf


$ mtxrun --script pdf --info a6.pdf
mtx-pdf | filename  > a6.pdf
mtx-pdf | pdf version   > 1.7
mtx-pdf | major version > 1
mtx-pdf | minor version > 7
mtx-pdf | number of pages   > 1
mtx-pdf | title > a6
mtx-pdf | creator   > LuaMetaTeX 2.09 20220429 + ConTeXt LMTX 
2022.05.11 11:36
mtx-pdf | producer  > LuaMetaTeX-2.09
mtx-pdf | author> 
mtx-pdf | creation date > D:20220920071929+02'00'
mtx-pdf | modification date > D:20220920071929+02'00'
mtx-pdf | cropbox   > pages: 1-1, width: 841.889758, height: 
595.27559


mtxrun --script pdf --fonts oeps.pdf


$ mtxrun --script pdf --fonts a6.pdf
mtx-pdf | id   basefont   encoding  subtype   
unicode characters
mtx-pdf | 
mtx-pdf | Fm1.F1   KBVQDT+LMRoman8-Regularno encoding   Type0 no vector   , - A B C D F G H I J K L M N O P R S T V Z a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v x y z Á á é í ñ ó ú

mtx-pdf | Fm1.F2   PISBZT+LMRoman6-Regularno encoding   Type0 
no vector   M a d e i l n
mtx-pdf | Fm2.F1   KBVQDT+LMRoman8-Regularno encoding   Type0 
no vector   , - A B C D F G H I J K L M N O P R S T V Z a b c d e f g h i j k l 
m n o p q r s t u v x y z Á á é í ñ ó ú
mtx-pdf | Fm3.F1   KBVQDT+LMRoman8-Regularno encoding   Type0 
no vector   , - A B C D F G H I J K L M N O P R S T V Z a b c d e f g h i j k l 
m n o p q r s t u v x y z Á á é í ñ ó ú
mtx-pdf | Fm4.F3   VGDDRM+LMRoman12-Regular   no encoding   Type0 
no vector   0 2 3
mtx-pdf | Fm4.F4   BBBAHN+LMMono8-Regular no encoding   Type0 
no vector   0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 A D F J M N O S a b c e g h i l m n o p r s t u 
v y
mtx-pdf |

Does that help?

Ángel
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/26/2022 8:26 PM, Angel M Alganza via ntg-context wrote:


I didn't know any of the poppler-utils, thank you!


mtxrun --script pdf --info oeps.pdf

mtxrun --script pdf --fonts oeps.pdf

the second one also shows what characters are in there

Hans

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Angel M Alganza via ntg-context

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 07:10:40PM +0200, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:


BTW, is TeX Gyre Heros the font with missing chars in the printed
version of your PDF document?


It doesn't seem to be that:

$ pdffonts a6.pdf
name type  encoding emb sub 
uni object ID
 -  --- --- 
--- -
KBVQDT+LMRoman8-Regular  CID Type 0C   Identity-H   yes yes 
yes  2  0
PISBZT+LMRoman6-Regular  CID Type 0C   Identity-H   yes yes 
yes  3  0
VGDDRM+LMRoman12-Regular CID Type 0C   Identity-H   yes yes 
yes  9  0
BBBAHN+LMMono8-Regular   CID Type 0C   Identity-H   yes yes 
yes 10  0


There might be a workaround (or a way of testing this), compiling the
PDF document with LuaTeX instead of with LuaMetaTeX.


It seems it is compiled with LuaTeX:

$ pdfinfo a6.pdf
Title:  a6
Creator:LuaMetaTeX 2.09 20220429 + ConTeXt LMTX 2022.05.11 11:36
Producer:   LuaMetaTeX-2.09
CreationDate:   Tue Sep 20 07:19:29 2022 CEST
ModDate:Tue Sep 20 07:19:29 2022 CEST
Tagged: no
UserProperties: no
Suspects:   no
Form:   none
JavaScript: no
Pages:  1
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4)
Page rot:   0
File size:  25630 bytes
Optimized:  no
PDF version:1.7


If you compile it invoking "context source.tex", use "context --luatex
source.tex".


When I try that I get:

$ context --luatex a6lua.tex 
mtx-context | redirect luametatex -> luatex: luatex --luaonly "/mnt/tex/tex/texmf-linux-64/bin/mtxrun.lua" --script mtx-context --luatex a6lua.tex --redirected

mtxrun  | unknown script 'mtx-context.lua' or 'mtx-mtx-context.lua'


But the way to know for sure which tools generated your PDF document and
whether fonts are embedded, "pdfinfo your-file.pdf" and "pdffonts
your-file.pdf" are your friends.


I didn't know any of the poppler-utils, thank you!


Otherwise, the only option about your documents is guessing.


I guess.  :-)

Ángel
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Re: [NTG-context] new hash for buffer (as file)

2022-09-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/26/2022 7:24 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

On 9/26/22 02:05, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:


Hi Pablo,


But now I don’t understand is the following issue: if the saved file
contains "\r\n", why does basic Notepad the new lines?

"\r\n" are the chars to get new lines in Windows. Or what am I missing here?


I'm not too sure what you're asking here, but Notepad was somewhat-
recently updated to handle both CRLF and LF line endings:

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/extended-eol-in-notepad/


Hi Max,

I realized later that I was doing something wrong. My fault here.


[...]
Also, you should probably check to make sure that the results of the
file don't depend on the current code page on Windows. Try writing out a
buffer from ConTeXt with the following contents:

АБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯабвгдежзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя

First, run "chcp 65001" before running "context" and record the size of the
file written. Then, run "chcp 1251" and run "context" again. Hopefully the
file size doesn't change; but if it does, then that means that the binary
content of any file written will depend on the system's default code page,
which would complicate making reproducible hashes.


For more than two decades, all my TeX sources are written in UTF-8.

I thought that ConTeXt would output the same character encoding as in
the source file when saving a buffer.

I haven’t found this issue and I’d say that all my saved buffers are
UTF-8 encoded.

the magic is in

savedata(name,replacenewlines(content),"\n",option == v_append)

because tex reads in and then lost what it saw (cr lf crlf) we use the 
line endings of the operating system (good old typewriters and windows 
use cr+lf and old macs uses cr while linux uses lf)


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Re: [NTG-context] new hash for buffer (as file)

2022-09-26 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 9/26/22 02:05, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:
>
> Hi Pablo,
>
>> But now I don’t understand is the following issue: if the saved file
>> contains "\r\n", why does basic Notepad the new lines?
>>
>> "\r\n" are the chars to get new lines in Windows. Or what am I missing here?
>
> I'm not too sure what you're asking here, but Notepad was somewhat-
> recently updated to handle both CRLF and LF line endings:
>
>https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/extended-eol-in-notepad/

Hi Max,

I realized later that I was doing something wrong. My fault here.

> [...]
> Also, you should probably check to make sure that the results of the
> file don't depend on the current code page on Windows. Try writing out a
> buffer from ConTeXt with the following contents:
>
>АБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯабвгдежзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя
>
> First, run "chcp 65001" before running "context" and record the size of the
> file written. Then, run "chcp 1251" and run "context" again. Hopefully the
> file size doesn't change; but if it does, then that means that the binary
> content of any file written will depend on the system's default code page,
> which would complicate making reproducible hashes.

For more than two decades, all my TeX sources are written in UTF-8.

I thought that ConTeXt would output the same character encoding as in
the source file when saving a buffer.

I haven’t found this issue and I’d say that all my saved buffers are
UTF-8 encoded.

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer

2022-09-26 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 9/26/22 16:44, Willi Egger via ntg-context wrote:
> Hi Pablo,
>
> Hraban refers to Paulo Ney de Souza from US. He recently joined the
> ConTeXt meeting and indeed he mentioned that TUG had a fund raising
> campaign which was successful.
Many thanks for your replies, Hraban and Willi.

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Re: [NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context
On 9/26/22 16:06, Angel M Alganza via ntg-context wrote:
> Hello,

Hi Ángel,

> [...]
> I tried printing the same file (from the same USB drive) into a
> different printer, this time connected to a computer, and sending the
> file from it, which worked just fine.  My guess is that the first
> printer in missing the font the document uses, whereas the second
> printer received the font from the computer (Devuan Linux), which has
> the appropriate font.  Could that be correct?

From my experience, this is possible, but maybe not highly probable.

By default, ConTeXt includes fonts by default, as far as I can remember
(I have been using it for over a decade).

> In all previous ocasions I used the version of ConTeXt included in
> Texlive on Devuan, but a few months ago I decided to install ConTeXt
> using the official distribution instead.  Could that explain the change
> in behaviour I'm seeing?  Could it be that the previous versions I used
> somehow embeded the fonts into the PDF file but the current one doesn't?

Again, I’d very surprised if that were the case.

BTW, is TeX Gyre Heros the font with missing chars in the printed
version of your PDF document?

I think that your printer is having issues with the embedded font in
your PDF document.

There might be a workaround (or a way of testing this), compiling the
PDF document with LuaTeX instead of with LuaMetaTeX.

If you compile it invoking "context source.tex", use "context --luatex
source.tex".

It might be that your printer has problems with the way LuaMetaTeX
embeds the fonts in the PDF (while it has none with LuaTeX).

But the way to know for sure which tools generated your PDF document and
whether fonts are embedded, "pdfinfo your-file.pdf" and "pdffonts
your-file.pdf" are your friends.

Both infos for the following source:

  \setupbodyfont[helvetica]
  \starttext
  \input zapf
  \stoptext

$ pdffonts a.pdf
name  type encoding emb sub uni object ID
-   --- --- --- -
TeXGyreHeros-Regular  CID Type 0C  Identity-H   yes yes yes  1  0

$ pdfinfo a.pdf
Title:  a
Creator:LuaMetaTeX 2.10 20220918 + ConTeXt LMTX 2022.09.11 20:44
Producer:   LuaMetaTeX-2.10
CreationDate:   Mon Sep 26 18:29:02 2022 CEST
ModDate:Mon Sep 26 18:29:02 2022 CEST
Tagged: no
UserProperties: no
Suspects:   no
Form:   none
JavaScript: no
Pages:  1
Encrypted:  no
Page size:  595.276 x 841.89 pts (A4)
Page rot:   0
File size:  7531 bytes
Optimized:  no
PDF version:1.7

Otherwise, the only option about your documents is guessing.

Just in case it might help,

Pablo



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Re: [NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Angel M Alganza via ntg-context

On Mon, Sep 26, 2022 at 04:54:31PM +0200, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:

i assume that you use mkiv or lmtx in which case fonts are embedded in 


I guess I'm using LMTX, but I don't know how to tell for sure, since
I downloaded the installer from 


https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Installation

for Linux and a previous version for OpenBSD 32bits as well
(unfortunately there isn't one now anymore) and install it from it.


the pdf file ... does the viewer show the file ok?


I thought I should have said that as soon as I pressed "y" (send in Mutt
:-) on my original email.  Yes, MuPDF shows the complete file without
any problem, all letters and numbers are there, as well as in the
printout I got from printing from a coworker computer (Devuan) to their
printer.

Ángel
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Re: [NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/26/2022 4:06 PM, Angel M Alganza via ntg-context wrote:

Hello,

I have a document that includes some grids (drawn with \grid) as well as
alphanumeric information (letters and numbers) which contents (the info,
not the grids) I modify every year and then print it out.  I've been
using it without any problem for a few (maybe 4 or 5) years but, this
time, only the grid showed up on the printout, but none of the letters
or numbers would, using the same printer I used every time before.  I
always copy the PDF file into a USB stick that I bring to the
(departamental) printer, plug it in the printer and directly print from it.

I tried printing the same file (from the same USB drive) into a
different printer, this time connected to a computer, and sending the
file from it, which worked just fine.  My guess is that the first
printer in missing the font the document uses, whereas the second
printer received the font from the computer (Devuan Linux), which has
the appropriate font.  Could that be correct?

In all previous ocasions I used the version of ConTeXt included in
Texlive on Devuan, but a few months ago I decided to install ConTeXt
using the official distribution instead.  Could that explain the change
in behaviour I'm seeing?  Could it be that the previous versions I used
somehow embeded the fonts into the PDF file but the current one doesn't?
And, if that's really the case, how could I force the font to be
included into the PDF file?  I remember I read something like that a
very long time ago (probably about LaTeX, not ConTeXt), but I haven't
found how to do it now in a few searches on the documentation.
i assume that you use mkiv or lmtx in which case fonts are embedded in 
the pdf file ... does the viewer show the file ok?


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Re: [NTG-context] PDF viewer

2022-09-26 Thread Willi Egger via ntg-context
Hi Pablo,

Hraban refers to Paulo Ney de Souza from US. He recently joined the ConTeXt 
meeting and indeed he mentioned that TUG had a fund raising campaign which was 
successful.

Kind regards
Willi

> On 23 Sep 2022, at 17:23, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> On 9/22/22 20:07, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context wrote:
>> […]
>> I suggest we’ll discuss funding in the context group board, but there
>> was also a discussion about fundraising at the 2022 meeting that I
>> didn’t follow – I think Paulo said he had experience in fundraising?
> 
> Hi Hraban,
> 
> sorry if I’m misreading, but I’m afraid I wasn’t able to find any Paulo
> in the messages I have from this list.
> 
> Now I wonder who he might be.
> 
> Many thanks for your help,
> 
> Pablo
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[NTG-context] Missing letters and numbers in printout

2022-09-26 Thread Angel M Alganza via ntg-context

Hello,

I have a document that includes some grids (drawn with \grid) as well as
alphanumeric information (letters and numbers) which contents (the info,
not the grids) I modify every year and then print it out.  I've been
using it without any problem for a few (maybe 4 or 5) years but, this
time, only the grid showed up on the printout, but none of the letters
or numbers would, using the same printer I used every time before.  I
always copy the PDF file into a USB stick that I bring to the
(departamental) printer, plug it in the printer and directly print from it.

I tried printing the same file (from the same USB drive) into a
different printer, this time connected to a computer, and sending the
file from it, which worked just fine.  My guess is that the first
printer in missing the font the document uses, whereas the second
printer received the font from the computer (Devuan Linux), which has
the appropriate font.  Could that be correct?

In all previous ocasions I used the version of ConTeXt included in
Texlive on Devuan, but a few months ago I decided to install ConTeXt
using the official distribution instead.  Could that explain the change
in behaviour I'm seeing?  Could it be that the previous versions I used
somehow embeded the fonts into the PDF file but the current one doesn't?
And, if that's really the case, how could I force the font to be
included into the PDF file?  I remember I read something like that a
very long time ago (probably about LaTeX, not ConTeXt), but I haven't
found how to do it now in a few searches on the documentation.

Thak you for any help or advice.

Cheers,
Ángel
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Re: [NTG-context] IBM Plex updates

2022-09-26 Thread BPJ via ntg-context
Den mån 26 sep. 2022 09:11Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <
ntg-context@ntg.nl> skrev:

> Hi, just for information:
> There were new releases of the IBM Plex fonts recently:
> https://github.com/IBM/plex/releases
>
> They’re now at version 2.3. Some faces were annoyingly renamed (Semi
> Bold and Medium to SmBld and Medm).
>
> Hraban
>

Thank you for bringing this interesting type family to my attention!

/bpj

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Re: [NTG-context] new hash for buffer (as file)

2022-09-26 Thread Hans Hagen via ntg-context

On 9/26/2022 2:05 AM, Max Chernoff via ntg-context wrote:


Hi Pablo,


But now I don’t understand is the following issue: if the saved file
contains "\r\n", why does basic Notepad the new lines?

"\r\n" are the chars to get new lines in Windows. Or what am I missing here?


I'm not too sure what you're asking here, but Notepad was somewhat-
recently updated to handle both CRLF and LF line endings:

https://devblogs.microsoft.com/commandline/extended-eol-in-notepad/

But I do agree that the line ending handling seems a little odd. I find it

surprising that the buffers internally use CR line endings since no systems
in the past 20 years use that.


how about tex ...

\number\endlinechar
\number\numexpr`M-`A+1\relax % plain sets up `^^M

... you don't want to know how much hassle dealing with line endings in 
tex is



Also, you should probably check to make sure that the results of the
file don't depend on the current code page on Windows. Try writing out a
buffer from ConTeXt with the following contents:

АБВГДЕЖЗИЙКЛМНОПРСТУФХЦЧШЩЪЫЬЭЮЯабвгдежзийклмнопрстуфхцчшщъыьэюя

First, run "chcp 65001" before running "context" and record the size of the

file written. Then, run "chcp 1251" and run "context" again. Hopefully the
file size doesn't change; but if it does, then that means that the binary
content of any file written will depend on the system's default code page,
which would complicate making reproducible hashes.

if that were the case nothing would work .. so it's bytes in - bytes out

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[NTG-context] IBM Plex updates

2022-09-26 Thread Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context

Hi, just for information:
There were new releases of the IBM Plex fonts recently:
https://github.com/IBM/plex/releases

They’re now at version 2.3. Some faces were annoyingly renamed (Semi 
Bold and Medium to SmBld and Medm).


Hraban
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