Re: [NTG-context] no recent message listed in the web interface

[Jean-Pierre Delange via ntg-context]

That’ what I trad :

Starting: Sun Jan 1 10:21:44 CET 2023
Ending: Tue Apr 11 15:13:54 CEST 2023

Jean-Pierre Delange 


> Le 30 avr. 2023 à 15:48, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context  
> a écrit :
> 
> Dear list,
> 
> I‘m afraid that
> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2023/108157.html is the
> most recent message displayed for 2023 in the web interface
> (https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2023/date.html#108157).
> 
> Although the list has been distributing messages to subscribers and I
> received them, I guess that the server software update might have
> something to do with this.
> 
> Just for the record, I contacted Taco privately two weeks ago. No reply,
> but I understand that obviously he is busy with other things.
> 
> Before sending him another message on the issue, I would like to ask
> whether anyone could confirm that recent messages (from this week)
> aren’nt being listed at
> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2023/date.html.
> 
> Many thanks for your help,
> 
> Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] cannot generate format file with current latest

[Hans Hagen via ntg-context]

On 4/30/2023 3:19 PM, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context wrote:

Dear list,

I have just updated to current latest (2023.04.27 17:04).

I always delete cache with "mtxrun --generate" after an update.

When I try to create the format file with "context --make --all", I get
the following error message:

lua error   > lua error on line 645 in file context.mkxl:

token call, execute: ...ext/base/mkxl/cldf-pos.lmt:18: attempt to index
a nil value (global 'posit') stack traceback:

you're running the wrong binary

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Re: [NTG-context] cannot generate format file with current latest

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

On 4/30/23 16:32, Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context wrote:
>> On 30 Apr 2023, at 14:19, Pablo Rodriguez wrote:
>> I have just updated to current latest (2023.04.27 17:04).
>>
>> I always delete cache with "mtxrun --generate" after an update.
>>
>> When I try to create the format file with "context --make --all", I get
>> the following error message:
>> [...]
>> Could anyone confirm the issue?
> 
> No. Working fine for me on a Mac using that version, both before and
> after running "make all" and "generate".

Many thanks for your fast reply, Bruce.

For some strange reason, binaries weren’t updated to latest ones.

Copying them from a brand-new install fixes the issue.

I wonder whether other Linux64 users experienced this.

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo

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Re: [NTG-context] cannot generate format file with current latest

[Bruce Horrocks via ntg-context]

> On 30 Apr 2023, at 14:19, Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear list,
> 
> I have just updated to current latest (2023.04.27 17:04).
> 
> I always delete cache with "mtxrun --generate" after an update.
> 
> When I try to create the format file with "context --make --all", I get
> the following error message:
> 
> lua error   > lua error on line 645 in file context.mkxl:
> 
> token call, execute: ...ext/base/mkxl/cldf-pos.lmt:18: attempt to index
> a nil value (global 'posit') stack traceback:
> ...ext/base/mkxl/cldf-pos.lmt:18: in local 'code'
> ...ext/base/mkiv/util-lua.lua:96: in field 'loadedluacode'
> ...ext/base/mkiv/luat-env.lua:108: in field 'luafilechunk'
> ...ext/base/mkxl/luat-cod.lmt:82: in function 'lua.registercode'
> [ctxlua]:1: in main chunk
> 
> A number should have been here; I inserted '0'. (If you can't figure out
> why I needed to see a number, look up 'weird error' in the index to The
> TeXbook.)
> 
> Could anyone confirm the issue?

No. Working fine for me on a Mac using that version, both before and after 
running "make all" and "generate".

—
Bruce Horrocks
Hampshire, UK

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[NTG-context] no recent message listed in the web interface

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

Dear list,

I‘m afraid that
https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2023/108157.html is the
most recent message displayed for 2023 in the web interface
(https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2023/date.html#108157).

Although the list has been distributing messages to subscribers and I
received them, I guess that the server software update might have
something to do with this.

Just for the record, I contacted Taco privately two weeks ago. No reply,
but I understand that obviously he is busy with other things.

Before sending him another message on the issue, I would like to ask
whether anyone could confirm that recent messages (from this week)
aren’nt being listed at
https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2023/date.html.

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo
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[NTG-context] cannot generate format file with current latest

[Pablo Rodriguez via ntg-context]

Dear list,

I have just updated to current latest (2023.04.27 17:04).

I always delete cache with "mtxrun --generate" after an update.

When I try to create the format file with "context --make --all", I get
the following error message:

lua error   > lua error on line 645 in file context.mkxl:

token call, execute: ...ext/base/mkxl/cldf-pos.lmt:18: attempt to index
a nil value (global 'posit') stack traceback:
...ext/base/mkxl/cldf-pos.lmt:18: in local 'code'
...ext/base/mkiv/util-lua.lua:96: in field 'loadedluacode'
...ext/base/mkiv/luat-env.lua:108: in field 'luafilechunk'
...ext/base/mkxl/luat-cod.lmt:82: in function 'lua.registercode'
[ctxlua]:1: in main chunk

A number should have been here; I inserted '0'. (If you can't figure out
why I needed to see a number, look up 'weird error' in the index to The
TeXbook.)

Could anyone confirm the issue?

Many thanks for your help,

Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] Linebreaking in Japanese in ConTeXt

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Gerben Wierda via ntg-context schrieb am 30.04.2023 um 10:48:
On 30 Apr 2023, at 10:04, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context 
mailto:ntg-context@ntg.nl>> wrote:


 begin example
\definefontfamily [noto-jp] [rm] [Noto Serif CJK JP]
\definefontfamily [noto-jp] [ss] [Noto Sans CJK JP]
\definetypeface   [noto-jp] [mm] [math] [pagella] [default]

\setupbodyfont [noto-jp]

\mainlanguage [ja]

\setscript [nihongo]


Thank you.

How do I change that in my setup?

My setup is creating the same stuff in different languages from XML 
input (LMTX using lua and METAPOST), which means I need to adapt the 
following setup (cyrillic and greek shown as the other languages with 
different character sets I use)


\startmode[JA]
\setuplanguage[ja][patterns={ja}]\mainlanguage[ja]
\stopmode


When your document prints only text in a single language change the 
setup above to


    \startmode [JA]
        \setscript [nihongo]
        \mainlanguage [ja]
    \stopmode

but for documents which use multiple script/languages at the same time 
replace the previous setup with


    \startsetups [japanese]
        \setscript [nihongo]
    \stopsetups

    \setuplanguage [ja] [setups=japanese]

and add \language[ja] before japanese text to ensure linebreaking is 
enabled.


Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Linebreaking in Japanese in ConTeXt

[Gerben Wierda via ntg-context]

> On 30 Apr 2023, at 10:04, Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context 
>  wrote:
> 
>  begin example
> \definefontfamily [noto-jp] [rm] [Noto Serif CJK JP]
> \definefontfamily [noto-jp] [ss] [Noto Sans CJK JP]
> \definetypeface   [noto-jp] [mm] [math] [pagella] [default]
> 
> \setupbodyfont [noto-jp]
> 
> \mainlanguage [ja]
> 
> \setscript [nihongo]

Thank you.

How do I change that in my setup?

My setup is creating the same stuff in different languages from XML input (LMTX 
using lua and METAPOST), which means I need to adapt the following setup 
(cyrillic and greek shown as the other languages with different character sets 
I use)

\startmode[JA]
\setuplanguage[ja][patterns={ja}]\mainlanguage[ja]
\stopmode

\definefallbackfamily
  [archimate]
  [ss]
  [Helvetica]
  [preset=range:cyrillic,
   tf=style:light,
   it=style:lightoblique,
   bf=style:regular,
   bi=style:oblique,
   force=yes,
   rscale=1.0]
 \definefallbackfamily
  [archimate]
  [ss]
  [Helvetica]
  [preset=range:greek,
   tf=style:light,
   it=style:lightoblique,
   bf=style:regular,
   bi=style:oblique,
   force=yes]
\definefallbackfamily
  [archimate]
  [ss]
  [Hiragino Sans]
  [preset=range:japanese,
   tf=style:W3,
   it=style:W3,
   bf=style:W5,
   bi=style:W5,
   force=yes]
 
\definefontfamily [archimate] [ss] [Optima]

\setupbodyfont[archimate]

\starttext

lua code creates METAPOST code which creates images with embedded ConTeXt 
'vboxes' which again contain language-setting ConTeXt code for each piece of 
text.

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Re: [NTG-context] Linebreaking in Japanese in ConTeXt

[Wolfgang Schuster via ntg-context]

Gerben Wierda via ntg-context schrieb am 30.04.2023 um 09:12:
I am currently testing with a Japanese translation of something I 
originally created in English using the ConTeXt engine (LMTX).


I run into the fact that Japanese has no use for whitespace, so most 
of the time TeX has no idea where to break. Is there something I can 
tell ConTeXt to solve this for me or do I have to alk with the 
translator to put whitespace in the correct places (kind of breaks the 
automatic linebreaking of TeX, though)?


Below is a example with some dummy text for a document which contains 
only japanese. The main points are


    1. to use a font which is suitable for japanese, e.g. Noto 
Serif/Sans CJK JP and


    2. enable line breaking with \setscript[nihongo].

The \mainlanguage setting is only needed to get japanese labels for 
chapter, float titles etc.


When you have a document with mixed scripts the approach below doesn't 
work because
spacing around braces and other punctuation marks is wrong for non 
japanese text,
this can be fixed but you have to include language switches in your 
document.


Wolfgang

 begin example
\definefontfamily [noto-jp] [rm] [Noto Serif CJK JP]
\definefontfamily [noto-jp] [ss] [Noto Sans CJK JP]
\definetypeface   [noto-jp] [mm] [math] [pagella] [default]

\setupbodyfont [noto-jp]

\mainlanguage [ja]

\setscript [nihongo]

\starttext

\startbuffer
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Re: [NTG-context] Linebreaking in Japanese in ConTeXt

[Gerben Wierda via ntg-context]

> On 30 Apr 2023, at 09:12, Gerben Wierda via ntg-context  
> wrote:
> 
> I am currently testing with a Japanese translation of something I originally 
> created in English using the ConTeXt engine (LMTX).
> 
> I run into the fact that Japanese has no use for whitespace, so most of the 
> time TeX has no idea where to break. Is there something I can tell ConTeXt to 
> solve this for me or do I have to alk with the translator to put whitespace 
> in the correct places (kind of breaks the automatic linebreaking of TeX, 
> though)?

I forgot to add. I use:

\setuplanguage[ja][patterns={ja}]\mainlanguage[ja]

G
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[NTG-context] Linebreaking in Japanese in ConTeXt

[Gerben Wierda via ntg-context]

I am currently testing with a Japanese translation of something I originally 
created in English using the ConTeXt engine (LMTX).

I run into the fact that Japanese has no use for whitespace, so most of the 
time TeX has no idea where to break. Is there something I can tell ConTeXt to 
solve this for me or do I have to alk with the translator to put whitespace in 
the correct places (kind of breaks the automatic linebreaking of TeX, though)?

Gerben Wierda (LinkedIn , Mastodon 
)
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Book: Chess and the Art of Enterprise Architecture 
Book: Mastering ArchiMate 

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