Re: [NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
On 2013-11-17 Jan Tosovsky wrote: I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the procedure explained here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors. thanks a lot to all who participated on this issue, especially to Khaled for fixing the internal font processing. Now Palatino font doesn't need to be patched on client side which simplifies the font setup significantly. I've updated that Wiki page accordingly. Feel free to correct me. Jan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
On 2013-11-17 Jan Tosovsky wrote:
I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the procedure
explained here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV
That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors.
almost fixed now using this procedure:
1) Create a new LFG file
local fix_pala = {
comment = Switching i.sc glyphs indexes,
fixes = function(data)
local descriptions = data.descriptions
descriptions[983201].index = 1170
descriptions[983261].index = 1110
end
}
return {
name = pala,
comment = Switching the small capped 'i' to a dotless variant in
Palatino Linotype.,
treatments = {
[pala.ttf] = fix_pala,
[palai.ttf] = fix_pala,
[palab.ttf] = fix_pala,
[palabi.ttf] = fix_pala,
},
}
2) Place it into the folder where other LFG files are stored
(tex\texmf-context\tex\context\fonts)
3) Execute 'mtxrun --generate' command to include newly added LFG file
into a file database
4) Specify a new font feature referencing to this goodie in the source file:
\definefontfeature[dotlessi][mode=base,goodies=pala]
\definefontfamily[palatino][rm][Palatino
Linotype][features={default,quality,dotlessi}]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\starttext
{Athenians \smallcaps{Athenians}}\par
{Athenians \sc{Athenians}}\par
{\it Athenians \smallcaps{Athenians}}\par
{\bf Athenians \smallcaps{Athenians}}\par
{\bi Athenians \smallcaps{Athenians}}\par
\stoptext
5) Trigger the generating
It works except the regular font style. In this case \smallcaps option
behaves differently than for e.g. \it or \bf styles. I am quite confused.
Moreover, when faked caps are switched on using \sc, it works. Can anybody
explain what is happening here?
Thanks, Jan
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Re: [NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
On 2013-11-27 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/27/2013 9:16 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2013-11-27 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/27/2013 12:40 AM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2013-11-17 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/17/2013 12:23 PM, honyk wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the
procedure explained here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV
That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors.
This LFG core settings:
unicodes = {
[a.sc] = 97, (1)
[b.sc] = 983261, (2)
},
(1) replaces all small 'a' into small caps variants - just for
testing purposes
(2) doesn't replace small caps 'i' to small caps 'b', but when small
caps text is selected, b is copied into the clipboard - so some
replacement is performed, but incomplete.
this mechanism assumes that the shapes match the one that unicode
expects so the (default) tounicode is used ... originally this features
was meant for fonts with a faulty mapping (some dingbat fonts have
that)
So a different approach is needed. In another thread we've found out that
there are two glyphs of the same name:
glyph index | glyph name
1110| i.sc/ small caps dotlessi
1170| i.sc/ small caps i
Currently when 'i' is to be rendered as small caps, 1170 is used, but I'd
like to use 1110 instead.
Can this be specified using a LFG file?
Thanks, Jan
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Re: [NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
On 11/27/2013 12:40 AM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2013-11-17 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/17/2013 12:23 PM, honyk wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the procedure
explained here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV
That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors.
there are several ways to apply patches runtime, see *.lfg files (and
also fonts-mkiv.pdf)
1) I've created a sample LFG file
2) placed it into the folder where other LFG files are stored
3) removed pala.tma and pala.tmc files from the cache
4) triggered the generating
My pala.lfg file seems to be ignored:
return {
name = pala,
comment = Switching the small capped 'i' to a dotless variant in
Palatino Linotype.,
remapping = {
tounicode = true,
unicodes = {
[i.sc] = 983201,
},
},
}
1) How the LFG file is matched with the font? Is it via the 'name'
parameter, pala in my case? Does that name equals to the file title
without an extension or something else?
2) Should I see that comment in the log or is it just a remark for editors?
3) Can I emulate this patch via direct editing of pala.tma file? When I
change the 'unicodes' value there, it has no impact on generating (nothing
changes in the output).
you have to load them ... see fonts-mkiv.pdf
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| www.pragma-pod.nl
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Re: [NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
On 2013-11-27 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/27/2013 12:40 AM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2013-11-17 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/17/2013 12:23 PM, honyk wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the procedure
explained here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV
That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors.
there are several ways to apply patches runtime, see *.lfg files
(and also fonts-mkiv.pdf)
1) I've created a sample LFG file
2) placed it into the folder where other LFG files are stored
3) removed pala.tma and pala.tmc files from the cache
4) triggered the generating
My pala.lfg file seems to be ignored:
return {
name = pala,
comment = Switching the small capped 'i' to a dotless variant
in Palatino Linotype.,
remapping = {
tounicode = true,
unicodes = {
[i.sc] = 983201,
},
},
}
you have to load them ... see fonts-mkiv.pdf
Thanks, I got it. Two next steps are required and one turned out as
redundant.
1) Create a sample LFG file
2) Place it into the folder where other LFG files are stored
3) NEW! Execute 'mtxrun --generate' command to include newly added LFG file
into a file database
4) NEW! Specify a new font feature referencing to this goodie:
\definefontfeature[dotlessi][mode=base,goodies=pala,unicoding=yes]
\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Palatino
Linotype][features={default,quality,dotlessi}]
5) Trigger the generating
It does something, but not what I need :-)
My MWE:
\definefontfeature[dotlessi][mode=base,goodies=pala,unicoding=yes]
\definefontfamily[palatino][rm][Palatino
Linotype][features={default,quality,dotlessi}]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\starttext
Athenians \sc{Athenians}
\stoptext
This LFG core settings:
unicodes = {
[a.sc] = 97, (1)
[b.sc] = 983261, (2)
},
(1) replaces all small 'a' into small caps variants - just for testing
purposes
(2) doesn't replace small caps 'i' to small caps 'b', but when small caps
text is selected, b is copied into the clipboard - so some replacement is
performed, but incomplete.
Maybe other tables need to be tweaked as well...
Has anybody any experience with this?
Thanks, Jan
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Re: [NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
On 11/27/2013 9:16 PM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2013-11-27 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/27/2013 12:40 AM, Jan Tosovsky wrote:
On 2013-11-17 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/17/2013 12:23 PM, honyk wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the procedure
explained here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV
That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors.
there are several ways to apply patches runtime, see *.lfg files
(and also fonts-mkiv.pdf)
1) I've created a sample LFG file
2) placed it into the folder where other LFG files are stored
3) removed pala.tma and pala.tmc files from the cache
4) triggered the generating
My pala.lfg file seems to be ignored:
return {
name = pala,
comment = Switching the small capped 'i' to a dotless variant
in Palatino Linotype.,
remapping = {
tounicode = true,
unicodes = {
[i.sc] = 983201,
},
},
}
you have to load them ... see fonts-mkiv.pdf
Thanks, I got it. Two next steps are required and one turned out as
redundant.
1) Create a sample LFG file
2) Place it into the folder where other LFG files are stored
3) NEW! Execute 'mtxrun --generate' command to include newly added LFG file
into a file database
4) NEW! Specify a new font feature referencing to this goodie:
\definefontfeature[dotlessi][mode=base,goodies=pala,unicoding=yes]
\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][Palatino
Linotype][features={default,quality,dotlessi}]
5) Trigger the generating
It does something, but not what I need :-)
My MWE:
\definefontfeature[dotlessi][mode=base,goodies=pala,unicoding=yes]
\definefontfamily[palatino][rm][Palatino
Linotype][features={default,quality,dotlessi}]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\starttext
Athenians \sc{Athenians}
\stoptext
This LFG core settings:
unicodes = {
[a.sc] = 97, (1)
[b.sc] = 983261, (2)
},
(1) replaces all small 'a' into small caps variants - just for testing
purposes
(2) doesn't replace small caps 'i' to small caps 'b', but when small caps
text is selected, b is copied into the clipboard - so some replacement is
performed, but incomplete.
Maybe other tables need to be tweaked as well...
Has anybody any experience with this?
this mechanism assumes that the shapes match the one that unicode
expects so the (default) tounicode is used ... originally this features
was meant for fonts with a faulty mapping (some dingbat fonts have that)
Hans
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| www.pragma-pod.nl
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Re: [NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
On 2013-11-17 Hans Hagen wrote:
On 11/17/2013 12:23 PM, honyk wrote:
Hello Everyone,
I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the procedure
explained here:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV
That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors.
there are several ways to apply patches runtime, see *.lfg files (and
also fonts-mkiv.pdf)
1) I've created a sample LFG file
2) placed it into the folder where other LFG files are stored
3) removed pala.tma and pala.tmc files from the cache
4) triggered the generating
My pala.lfg file seems to be ignored:
return {
name = pala,
comment = Switching the small capped 'i' to a dotless variant in
Palatino Linotype.,
remapping = {
tounicode = true,
unicodes = {
[i.sc] = 983201,
},
},
}
1) How the LFG file is matched with the font? Is it via the 'name'
parameter, pala in my case? Does that name equals to the file title
without an extension or something else?
2) Should I see that comment in the log or is it just a remark for editors?
3) Can I emulate this patch via direct editing of pala.tma file? When I
change the 'unicodes' value there, it has no impact on generating (nothing
changes in the output).
Thanks, Jan
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[NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
Hello Everyone, I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the procedure explained here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors. I've changed fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] to fonts.handlers.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] which compiles, but it does nothing. I've also tried this variant, but that 'patch' function is never called even though I clear my font cache every run: \startluacode local fonts= fonts local otf = fonts.handlers.otf local patches = otf.enhancers.patches local register = patches.register local report = patches.report function patch (data,filename) report(I am here) report(processing data %s, table.serialize(data)) end register(after,prepare glyphs,^pala, patch) \stopluacode Any idea? Thanks, Jan ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino patch for the current ConTeXt version
On 11/17/2013 12:23 PM, honyk wrote: Hello Everyone, I am trying to fix a Palatino small caps issue using the procedure explained here: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV That fix seems to be obsolete nowadays and returning errors. I've changed fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] to fonts.handlers.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] which compiles, but it does nothing. I've also tried this variant, but that 'patch' function is never called even though I clear my font cache every run: \startluacode local fonts= fonts local otf = fonts.handlers.otf local patches = otf.enhancers.patches local register = patches.register local report = patches.report function patch (data,filename) report(I am here) report(processing data %s, table.serialize(data)) end register(after,prepare glyphs,^pala, patch) \stopluacode Any idea? patches are applied when a font is cached so you need to wipe the cache after defining such a patch there are several ways to apply patches runtime, see *.lfg files (and also fonts-mkiv.pdf) Hans -- - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 18:16, Paul Schalck schick...@web.de wrote: Thank you very much, Taco, especially for the detailed explanations you gave! It works like a charm. I've made a new Wiki page (my first one), mainly based on your answer: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV I follow this example to test fonts Palatino. It works perfectly. Thanks! But when I do some math with \startformula ... \stopformula, I got LMRoman12-Regular and LMMathItalic12-Regular in my PDF. My stupid question: How to use math symbols of Palatino ? Thanks, ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
On 6-8-2010 9:20, Vnpenguin wrote: On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 18:16, Paul Schalckschick...@web.de wrote: Thank you very much, Taco, especially for the detailed explanations you gave! It works like a charm. I've made a new Wiki page (my first one), mainly based on your answer: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV I follow this example to test fonts Palatino. It works perfectly. Thanks! But when I do some math with \startformula ... \stopformula, I got LMRoman12-Regular and LMMathItalic12-Regular in my PDF. My stupid question: How to use math symbols of Palatino ? use the ones based on the px fonts (search for palatino in font-otf.mkiv) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 09:24, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: Thank you very much, Taco, especially for the detailed explanations you gave! It works like a charm. I've made a new Wiki page (my first one), mainly based on your answer: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV I follow this example to test fonts Palatino. It works perfectly. Thanks! But when I do some math with \startformula ... \stopformula, I got LMRoman12-Regular and LMMathItalic12-Regular in my PDF. My stupid question: How to use math symbols of Palatino ? use the ones based on the px fonts (search for palatino in font-otf.mkiv) Do you mean type-otf.mkiv ? I can't found font-otf.mkiv in my minimal installation here. I tried to add: \starttypescript [math][palatino][all] \loadfontgoodies[px-math] \definefontsynonym[mathroman][pxm...@px-math] \stoptypescript into the example code. But it does not work. Could you give me some idea please ? Thanks ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
On 6-8-2010 10:02, Vnpenguin wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 09:24, Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl wrote: Thank you very much, Taco, especially for the detailed explanations you gave! It works like a charm. I've made a new Wiki page (my first one), mainly based on your answer: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV I follow this example to test fonts Palatino. It works perfectly. Thanks! But when I do some math with \startformula ... \stopformula, I got LMRoman12-Regular and LMMathItalic12-Regular in my PDF. My stupid question: How to use math symbols of Palatino ? use the ones based on the px fonts (search for palatino in font-otf.mkiv) Do you mean type-otf.mkiv ? I can't found font-otf.mkiv in my minimal installation here. I tried to add: \starttypescript [math][palatino][all] \loadfontgoodies[px-math] \definefontsynonym[mathroman][pxm...@px-math] \stoptypescript into the example code. But it does not work. Could you give me some idea please ? depends on how your other typescript looks - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 12:34, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 6-8-2010 10:02, Vnpenguin wrote: On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 09:24, Hans Hagenpra...@wxs.nl wrote: Thank you very much, Taco, especially for the detailed explanations you gave! It works like a charm. I've made a new Wiki page (my first one), mainly based on your answer: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV I follow this example to test fonts Palatino. It works perfectly. Thanks! But when I do some math with \startformula ... \stopformula, I got LMRoman12-Regular and LMMathItalic12-Regular in my PDF. My stupid question: How to use math symbols of Palatino ? use the ones based on the px fonts (search for palatino in font-otf.mkiv) Do you mean type-otf.mkiv ? I can't found font-otf.mkiv in my minimal installation here. I tried to add: \starttypescript [math][palatino][all] \loadfontgoodies[px-math] \definefontsynonym[mathroman][pxm...@px-math] \stoptypescript into the example code. But it does not work. Could you give me some idea please ? depends on how your other typescript looks I take simply the example on wiki, no more no less : http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV Thanks ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
On 6-8-2010 1:40, Vnpenguin wrote: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV \definetypeface[PalatinoLinotype][mm][math][palatino][default] - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 13:46, Hans Hagen pra...@wxs.nl wrote: On 6-8-2010 1:40, Vnpenguin wrote: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV \definetypeface[PalatinoLinotype][mm][math][palatino][default] Voilà, it works now. Thank you so much for your help, Cheers, ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
Hi, I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! Rio ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
Riobard wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! [example missing] Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
On 2-8-2010 3:35, Riobard wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! in type-otf.mkii, search for xmath and add the following in that section \starttypescript [math] [palatino] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Palatino-Roman-Upright] \definefontsynonym [MathExtension] [Palatino-Math-Extension] \definefontsynonym [MathItalic][Palatino-Math-Italic] \definefontsynonym [MathSymbol][Palatino-Math-Symbols] \definefontsynonym [MathAlpha] [Palatino-Math-SymbolsA] \definefontsynonym [MathBeta] [Palatino-Math-SymbolsB] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [math] [palatino] [name] \definefontsynonym [OldStyle] [MathItalic] \definefontsynonym [Fraktur] [eufm10] \definefontsynonym [Blackboard] [MathBeta] \definefontsynonym [Gothic] [eufm10] \definefontsynonym [Calligraphic] [eusm10] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [math] [times] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Times-Roman-Upright] \definefontsynonym [MathExtension] [Times-Math-Extension] \definefontsynonym [MathItalic][Times-Math-Italic] \definefontsynonym [MathSymbol][Times-Math-Symbols] \definefontsynonym [MathAlpha] [Times-Math-SymbolsA] \definefontsynonym [MathBeta] [Times-Math-SymbolsB] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [math] [times] [name] \definefontsynonym [OldStyle] [MathItalic] \definefontsynonym [Fraktur] [eufm10] \definefontsynonym [Blackboard] [MathBeta] \definefontsynonym [Gothic] [eufm10] \definefontsynonym [Calligraphic] [eusm10] \stoptypescript - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
Sorry, the example is here (forgot to paste it; my bad): \usetypescript[palatino] \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino][default] \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino][default] \setupbodyfont[palatino,11pt] On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote: Riobard wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! [example missing] Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 16:00, Hans Hagen wrote: On 2-8-2010 3:35, Riobard wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! in type-otf.mkii, search for xmath and add the following in that section \starttypescript [math] [palatino] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Palatino-Roman-Upright] ... In TeX Live that doesn't work and in minimals it has no influence. \usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino] kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 uplri8a.pfb mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for uplri8a.pfb. mktexpk: perhaps uplri8a.pfb is missing from the map file. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ** WARNING ** Could not locate a virtual/physical font for TFM rpxpplri. ** WARNING ** This font is mapped to a physical font uplri8a.pfb. ** WARNING ** Please check if kpathsea library can find this font: uplri8a.pfb ** ERROR ** Cannot proceed without .vf or physical font for PDF output... Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
You'll these few lines: \usetypescript[palatino] \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino][default] \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino][default] \setupbodyfont[palatino,11pt] then modify as suggested by Hans. Works for me with the latest beta of minimals. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Mojca Miklavec mojca.miklavec.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 16:00, Hans Hagen wrote: On 2-8-2010 3:35, Riobard wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! in type-otf.mkii, search for xmath and add the following in that section \starttypescript [math] [palatino] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Palatino-Roman-Upright] ... In TeX Live that doesn't work and in minimals it has no influence. \usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino] kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 uplri8a.pfb mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for uplri8a.pfb. mktexpk: perhaps uplri8a.pfb is missing from the map file. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ** WARNING ** Could not locate a virtual/physical font for TFM rpxpplri. ** WARNING ** This font is mapped to a physical font uplri8a.pfb. ** WARNING ** Please check if kpathsea library can find this font: uplri8a.pfb ** ERROR ** Cannot proceed without .vf or physical font for PDF output... Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
Hi,
On 06/29/2010 11:15 AM, Paul Schalck wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to use the full glyph range of the Palatino Linotype font
shipped with XP (version 1.40; significantly different from the Windows
7 one) under MKIV. Everything works fine (oldstyle figures, sups for
instance), except that the small cap i character has a dot whereas it
shouldn't.
I borrowed one of the fonts from my wife's XP install (pala.ttf).
The short answer: the font is borked, complain to Microsoft.
The long answer: lookups are name-based, and if there are two glyphs
with the same name, you can't know which one is used in any particular
piece of software.
As far as I can see, it has to do with the messy name list of the
glyphs. Both the normal small cap i and the small cap dotted i are named
i.sc
The one with a dot is meant for Turkish.
Moreover, the small cap glyphs have no unicode numbers in this font, so
I cannot pick them manually with \char or even with \charX.
Any ideas how I can get the right dottless i?
Context always maps all unencoded glyphs into a private area starting
at 0xF. For this font, the first i.sc (the one without dot) is at
0xF00AF and has glyph index 0x456, and the second is at 0xF00EB
with glyph index 0x492.
To find these numbers, run a file like this:
\usemodule[fnt-10]
\starttext
\ShowCompleteFont{file:pala.ttf}{20pt}{1}
\stoptext
This means that to get the dotless version, you could enter \charF00AF
Really long answer: to fix the problem nicely, we have to rename one of
the two glyphs.
This could be done in an external editor, but as this is a system font,
that may not be wise or even possible. Luckily, context allows to do
this using a patching system that is active during initial font loading
time (when the cache is generated).
In the following, we will be patching the generated cache file before
it is saved (by putting some lua code at the beginning of your test
file). Remember that you have to delete the generated cache
files after each iteration. In my case, they were /opt/tex/texmf-
cache/luatex-cache/context/c24894930eb65eadf7b71f1e305ff518/fonts/otf/pala.tm*.
If you forget to do this step in between runs,
nothing will change in the output!
The existing font patches are in font-pat.lua, and from that file it is
possible to deduce that something like this is the correct program
structure, theoretically:
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
-- to be filled in
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
The two arguments to the patch function are the data table from the
luafontloader and the font file name, respectively. The function
should patch the data table to our liking and does not have to return
anything.
In order to have a good look at the data, the first thing to do is to
dump the data to a file. Put this code at the top of your test file,
delete the data cache files, and run:
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
io.savedata(filename .. '.lua', table.serialize(data))
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
\definefontfeature [...]
Afterwards, open pala.ttf.lua (or pala.TTF.lua. not sure how this works
out on an actual XP install) in an editor for browsing.
Looking at the lua code in pala.ttf.lua, you will see that there
is a pretty large sub-array called 'glyphs', which happens to be
indexed by glyph id. There are two entries in that sub-array called
'i.sc' and we will want to change the second of those to 'i.scturkish'
(the one at 0x492, the number we discovered above).
Change the lua code to the code below, save your test file, delete the
data cache again, and rerun.
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
data.glyphs[0x492].name = a.scturkish
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
That's one problem fixed. If you look at the test's pdf, it will now
have dotless i's in the smallcaps. But now we have broken the
turkish smallcaps code (it will now also use the first i.sc, which is
wrong) so it is nice to fix that as well. Some searching back and forth
through the pala.ttf.lua code reveals that there are two lookups that
use i.sc: ss_latn_l_13_s (for normal latin) and ss_latn_l_14_s (for
turkish). These lookups are part of the glyph definition of 'i' which
lives at 0x92 (I found that number in the earlier font dump, but you
could also count the entries in pala.ttf.lua, if you are bored or like
counting stuff).
Named lookups are small arrays (you can deduce that from the double
braces in pala.ttf.lua), so the needed patch is:
data.glyphs[0x92].lookups[ss_latn_l_14_s][1].specification.variant=a.scturkish
And that will fix the turkish lookup. Now, I want to make sure we
only run this code for palatino version 1.40 (it should be obvious
why), and it is nice to do a terminal message as well. (note: testing
for just the font version ignores the fact that different vendors may
use the same font name for different fonts,
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com wrote:
Hi,
On 06/29/2010 11:15 AM, Paul Schalck wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to use the full glyph range of the Palatino Linotype font
shipped with XP (version 1.40; significantly different from the Windows
7 one) under MKIV. Everything works fine (oldstyle figures, sups for
instance), except that the small cap i character has a dot whereas it
shouldn't.
I borrowed one of the fonts from my wife's XP install (pala.ttf).
The short answer: the font is borked, complain to Microsoft.
The long answer: lookups are name-based, and if there are two glyphs
with the same name, you can't know which one is used in any particular
piece of software.
As far as I can see, it has to do with the messy name list of the
glyphs. Both the normal small cap i and the small cap dotted i are named
i.sc
The one with a dot is meant for Turkish.
Moreover, the small cap glyphs have no unicode numbers in this font, so
I cannot pick them manually with \char or even with \charX.
Any ideas how I can get the right dottless i?
Context always maps all unencoded glyphs into a private area starting
at 0xF. For this font, the first i.sc (the one without dot) is at
0xF00AF and has glyph index 0x456, and the second is at 0xF00EB
with glyph index 0x492.
To find these numbers, run a file like this:
\usemodule[fnt-10]
\starttext
\ShowCompleteFont{file:pala.ttf}{20pt}{1}
\stoptext
This means that to get the dotless version, you could enter \charF00AF
Really long answer: to fix the problem nicely, we have to rename one of
the two glyphs.
This could be done in an external editor, but as this is a system font,
that may not be wise or even possible. Luckily, context allows to do
this using a patching system that is active during initial font loading
time (when the cache is generated).
In the following, we will be patching the generated cache file before
it is saved (by putting some lua code at the beginning of your test
file). Remember that you have to delete the generated cache
files after each iteration. In my case, they were /opt/tex/texmf-
cache/luatex-cache/context/c24894930eb65eadf7b71f1e305ff518/fonts/otf/pala.tm*.
If you forget to do this step in between runs,
nothing will change in the output!
The existing font patches are in font-pat.lua, and from that file it is
possible to deduce that something like this is the correct program
structure, theoretically:
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
-- to be filled in
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
The two arguments to the patch function are the data table from the
luafontloader and the font file name, respectively. The function
should patch the data table to our liking and does not have to return
anything.
In order to have a good look at the data, the first thing to do is to
dump the data to a file. Put this code at the top of your test file,
delete the data cache files, and run:
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
io.savedata(filename .. '.lua', table.serialize(data))
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
\definefontfeature [...]
Afterwards, open pala.ttf.lua (or pala.TTF.lua. not sure how this works
out on an actual XP install) in an editor for browsing.
Looking at the lua code in pala.ttf.lua, you will see that there
is a pretty large sub-array called 'glyphs', which happens to be
indexed by glyph id. There are two entries in that sub-array called
'i.sc' and we will want to change the second of those to 'i.scturkish'
(the one at 0x492, the number we discovered above).
Change the lua code to the code below, save your test file, delete the
data cache again, and rerun.
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
data.glyphs[0x492].name = a.scturkish
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
That's one problem fixed. If you look at the test's pdf, it will now
have dotless i's in the smallcaps. But now we have broken the
turkish smallcaps code (it will now also use the first i.sc, which is
wrong) so it is nice to fix that as well. Some searching back and forth
through the pala.ttf.lua code reveals that there are two lookups that
use i.sc: ss_latn_l_13_s (for normal latin) and ss_latn_l_14_s (for
turkish). These lookups are part of the glyph definition of 'i' which
lives at 0x92 (I found that number in the earlier font dump, but you
could also count the entries in pala.ttf.lua, if you are bored or like
counting stuff).
Named lookups are small arrays (you can deduce that from the double
braces in pala.ttf.lua), so the needed patch is:
data.glyphs[0x92].lookups[ss_latn_l_14_s][1].specification.variant=a.scturkish
And that will fix the turkish lookup. Now, I want to make sure we
only run this code for palatino version 1.40 (it should be obvious
why), and it is nice to do a
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
Thank you very much, Taco, especially for the detailed explanations you
gave! It works like a charm. I've made a new Wiki page (my first one),
mainly based on your answer:
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Palatino_Linotype_under_MKIV
- Original Message -
From: Taco Hoekwater t...@elvenkind.com
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users ntg-context@ntg.nl
Cc: Paul Schalck schick...@web.de
Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
Hi,
On 06/29/2010 11:15 AM, Paul Schalck wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to use the full glyph range of the Palatino Linotype font
shipped with XP (version 1.40; significantly different from the Windows
7 one) under MKIV. Everything works fine (oldstyle figures, sups for
instance), except that the small cap i character has a dot whereas it
shouldn't.
I borrowed one of the fonts from my wife's XP install (pala.ttf).
The short answer: the font is borked, complain to Microsoft.
The long answer: lookups are name-based, and if there are two glyphs
with the same name, you can't know which one is used in any particular
piece of software.
As far as I can see, it has to do with the messy name list of the
glyphs. Both the normal small cap i and the small cap dotted i are named
i.sc
The one with a dot is meant for Turkish.
Moreover, the small cap glyphs have no unicode numbers in this font, so
I cannot pick them manually with \char or even with \charX.
Any ideas how I can get the right dottless i?
Context always maps all unencoded glyphs into a private area starting
at 0xF. For this font, the first i.sc (the one without dot) is at
0xF00AF and has glyph index 0x456, and the second is at 0xF00EB
with glyph index 0x492.
To find these numbers, run a file like this:
\usemodule[fnt-10]
\starttext
\ShowCompleteFont{file:pala.ttf}{20pt}{1}
\stoptext
This means that to get the dotless version, you could enter \charF00AF
Really long answer: to fix the problem nicely, we have to rename one of
the two glyphs.
This could be done in an external editor, but as this is a system font,
that may not be wise or even possible. Luckily, context allows to do
this using a patching system that is active during initial font loading
time (when the cache is generated).
In the following, we will be patching the generated cache file before
it is saved (by putting some lua code at the beginning of your test
file). Remember that you have to delete the generated cache
files after each iteration. In my case, they were /opt/tex/texmf-
cache/luatex-cache/context/c24894930eb65eadf7b71f1e305ff518/fonts/otf/pala.tm*.
If you forget to do this step in between runs,
nothing will change in the output!
The existing font patches are in font-pat.lua, and from that file it is
possible to deduce that something like this is the correct program
structure, theoretically:
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
-- to be filled in
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
The two arguments to the patch function are the data table from the
luafontloader and the font file name, respectively. The function
should patch the data table to our liking and does not have to return
anything.
In order to have a good look at the data, the first thing to do is to
dump the data to a file. Put this code at the top of your test file,
delete the data cache files, and run:
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
io.savedata(filename .. '.lua', table.serialize(data))
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
\definefontfeature [...]
Afterwards, open pala.ttf.lua (or pala.TTF.lua. not sure how this works
out on an actual XP install) in an editor for browsing.
Looking at the lua code in pala.ttf.lua, you will see that there
is a pretty large sub-array called 'glyphs', which happens to be
indexed by glyph id. There are two entries in that sub-array called
'i.sc' and we will want to change the second of those to 'i.scturkish'
(the one at 0x492, the number we discovered above).
Change the lua code to the code below, save your test file, delete the
data cache again, and rerun.
\startluacode
function palapatch (data,filename)
data.glyphs[0x492].name = a.scturkish
end
fonts.otf.enhancers.patches[^pala] = palapatch
\stopluacode
That's one problem fixed. If you look at the test's pdf, it will now
have dotless i's in the smallcaps. But now we have broken the
turkish smallcaps code (it will now also use the first i.sc, which is
wrong) so it is nice to fix that as well. Some searching back and forth
through the pala.ttf.lua code reveals that there are two lookups that
use i.sc: ss_latn_l_13_s (for normal latin) and ss_latn_l_14_s (for
turkish). These lookups are part of the glyph definition of 'i' which
lives at 0x92 (I found that number in the earlier font dump, but you
could also count the entries in pala.ttf.lua, if you are bored or like
counting stuff).
Named lookups are small
[NTG-context] Palatino Linotype under MKIV
Hi,
I'm trying to use the full glyph range of the Palatino Linotype font shipped
with XP (version 1.40; significantly different from the Windows 7 one) under
MKIV. Everything works fine (oldstyle figures, sups for instance), except
that the small cap i character has a dot whereas it shouldn't.
Here's a test file. The result, produced on WinXP / ConTeXt beta 2010-06-23,
is attached.
\definefontfeature[palatinolt-default][script=latn,kern=yes,liga=yes,trep=yes,tlig=yes,protrusion=quality]
\definefontfeature[palatinolt-smcp][script=latn,kern=yes,liga=yes,trep=yes,tlig=yes,protrusion=quality,smcp=yes,onum=yes]
\definefontfeature[palatinolt-sups][mode=node,script=latn,kern=yes,liga=yes,trep=yes,tlig=yes,protrusion=quality,sups=yes]
\starttypescript[serif][palatinolt][name]
\usetypescript[serif][fallback]
\definefontsynonym[Serif][file:pala.ttf][features=palatinolt-default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold][file:palab.ttf][features=palatinolt-default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][file:palai.ttf][features=palatinolt-default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][file:palabi.ttf][features=palatinolt-default]
\definefontsynonym[SerifCaps][file:pala.ttf][features=palatinolt-smcp]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface[palatinolt][rm][serif][palatinolt][default]
\setupbodyfont[palatinolt]
\enableprotruding\setuppagenumbering[location=]
\starttext
{\sc \input knuth }
\stoptext
As far as I can see, it has to do with the messy name list of the glyphs.
Both the normal small cap i and the small cap dotted i are named i.sc, but
the wrong one is picked when the smcp feature is activated. Moreover, the
small cap glyphs have no unicode numbers in this font, so I cannot pick them
manually with \char or even with \charX.
Any ideas how I can get the right dottless i?
palatinolt_mkiv_test.pdf
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[NTG-context] Palatino, smallcaps, and oldstyle.
Hi,
Something is wrong with palatino smallcaps and oldstyle. The attached
image shows the output of the following test file.
\usetypescript[palatino]
\setupbodyfont[palatino]
\setfontfeature{oldstyle}
\starttext
Definition
\smallcaps{Definition}
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Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
Am 2006-01-20 um 21:29 schrieb VnPenguin: The Gentium typescript is already in the typescripts.zip for a long time. With curiosity, does your typescripts for Gentium support T5 encoding ? :) We use Gentium ok for Vietnamese utf-8 here (Openoffice, Abiword,) and it will be nice if you could provide vietnamese support ... :) My type scripts always use \defaultencoding - that's not always the best, but mostly... (One could use a list of appropriate encodings instead.) I don't yet provide support files for t5 encoding, only ex, texnansi and qx. But it would be no problem to make them for Gentium (and other fonts that contain the glyphs). But I must think about a better structure of my fonts list before... (http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4) Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] palatino fonts
Hi, In a previous post, sjoerd mentioned fonts from the tower of babel project (russia). http://newstar.rinet.ru/downl.php?lan=en#dict There you can also download fonts, like some palatino and a cjk font. To me it looks quite illegal: the palatino variant has indeed over 2500 glyphs but also contains copyright notices (heidelberg/linotype as well as microsoft). When fonts lack glyphs one normally may make companions, but that;s not the case here: same name, probably same glyphs as in the original. i wonder why they were not yet taken off line. Stealing fonts happens, but here they didn't even bother to disguise the original name and author. Ok, I may be wrong and it may be a donation to the project, but even then it should be mentioned in the copyryright. (Somehow I'm pretty sure that the designer of the Palatino (Hermann Zapf) is not aware or this rip-off.) LInotype now ships the Palatino Nova, but that does not mean that the old one is obsolete and free. Technically you can configure the context unicode handler to take chars from multiple fonts, so my advise is to use another font or a combination of fonts. Maybe it's worth investigating which free fonts contain the glyphs you need. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
Am 2006-01-20 um 10:23 schrieb Hans Hagen: Technically you can configure the context unicode handler to take chars from multiple fonts, so my advise is to use another font or a combination of fonts. Maybe it's worth investigating which free fonts contain the glyphs you need. Of course this one is illegal, but I can understand their intention to collect all the glyphs in one font (they don't normally use TeX, I guess). I know no font that contains every kind of Latin/Greek based glyph (as this does); Gentium is aiming that target, but it lacks cyrillic at the moment (and it doesn't look like it would be further developed, even if they released the sources some months ago). And there isn't a bold variant either. http://scripts.sil.org/Gentium Other projects: - Linux Libertine is just ugly (0 is only a circle!?) http://linuxlibertine.sourceforge.net/ - Junicode is interesting, but also lacks Cyrillic http://www.engl.virginia.edu/OE/junicode/junicode.html - more? And as far as I can see, the Babel folks even had to make up some glyphs for their project. Sure, it would be far better if they had contributed to one of the above projects (or perhaps one of the GUST projects or just use TeX) instead stealing a commercial font. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Sure, it would be far better if they had contributed to one of the above projects (or perhaps one of the GUST projects or just use TeX) instead stealing a commercial font. indeed, they could have made a companion font to the urw paladio Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Gentium is aiming that target, but it lacks cyrillic at the moment (and it doesn't look like it would be further developed, even if they released the sources some months ago). What makes you say that? I heard that Victor Gaultney will release a new version soonish, and that it will have bold and bold italic. And the status part of the Gentium website looks like they are actively developing the font. Best Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
Hello all, I just had a look the the Gentium fonts and I like them. Did anybody start to make them available in Context? And does anybody know if there will be a math font set available? Kind regards Wolfgang Thomas A. Schmitz schrieb: On Jan 20, 2006, at 10:47 AM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Gentium is aiming that target, but it lacks cyrillic at the moment (and it doesn't look like it would be further developed, even if they released the sources some months ago). What makes you say that? I heard that Victor Gaultney will release a new version soonish, and that it will have bold and bold italic. And the status part of the Gentium website looks like they are actively developing the font. Best Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
I can send you typescript, map, and tfms off-list if you want. Thomas On Jan 20, 2006, at 3:02 PM, Wolfgang Zillig wrote: I just had a look the the Gentium fonts and I like them. Did anybody start to make them available in Context? ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
indeed, they could have made a companion font to the urw paladio Hans Then it would be a hans serif! ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
Am 2006-01-20 um 16:39 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: I can send you typescript, map, and tfms off-list if you want. What about putting them to the modules section of contextgarden or to Hraban's server (the first place where someone would search for typescripts :) The Gentium typescript is already in the typescripts.zip for a long time. Since I read the I'm allowed to re-distribute the font, I'll prepare a package soon, but I should rework my fonts page (or better the whole site)... Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://contextgarden.net http://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] palatino fonts
On 1/20/06, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Gentium typescript is already in the typescripts.zip for a long time. Since I read the I'm allowed to re-distribute the font, I'll prepare a package soon, but I should rework my fonts page (or better the whole site)... With curiosity, does your typescripts for Gentium support T5 encoding ? :) We use Gentium ok for Vietnamese utf-8 here (Openoffice, Abiword,) and it will be nice if you could provide vietnamese support ... :) Thank you, -- http://vnoss.org Vietnamese Open Source Software Community ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
David Arnold wrote: Changing each occurrence of TEXMFMAIN in type-tmf.dat to TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE,TEXMFGW produces the following result: Quiz Four.tex texnansi-adobe-utopia.tex QuizFour.auxtexnansi-bitstrea-charter.tex QuizFour.logtexnansi-public-antp.tex QuizFour.pdftexnansi-urw-bookman.tex QuizFour.textexnansi-urw-courier.tex StroyPractice texnansi-urw-helvetica.tex calctexnansi-urw-ncntrsbk.tex de texnansi-urw-palatino.tex junk.logtexnansi-urw-times.tex junk.m texnansi-urw-zapfchan.tex junk.pdftype-tmf-gw.dat junk.textype-tmf-gw.dat~ makeFilter.mtype-tmf.dat looks ok to me; the final test is to process those tex files ... Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
David Arnold wrote: Hans et al, Changing each occurrence of TEXMFMAIN in type-tmf.dat to TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE,TEXMFGW produces the following result: At a first glance, that looked fine. But I still have to catch up on a lot of e-mail ;-) Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
Hans et al, Changing each occurrence of TEXMFMAIN in type-tmf.dat to TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE,TEXMFGW produces the following result: 011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ sudo texfont type-tmf-gw.dat TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 processing batch file : type-tmf-gw.dat batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=public --co=antp -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE,TEXMFGW TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN checking root : TEXMFTE mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done. encoding vector : texnansi vendor name : public source path : /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/ afm/public/antp font collection : antp texmf font root : /usr/local/tetex/share/texmf.local pdftex map file : texnansi-public-antp.map processing files : all on afm path locating afm files : using pattern /usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/fonts/afm/public/antp/*.afm locating afm files : using pattern * no map file at : /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/ map/pdftex/context/texnansi-public-antp.map font identifier : AntykwaPoltawskiego-Bold - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-antpb (from antpb) generating new vf : texnansi-antpb (from texnansi-raw-antpb) font identifier : AntykwaPoltawskiego-BoldItalic - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-antpbi (from antpbi) generating new vf : texnansi-antpbi (from texnansi-raw-antpbi) font identifier : AntykwaPoltawskiego-Regular - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-antpr (from antpr) generating new vf : texnansi-antpr (from texnansi-raw-antpr) font identifier : AntykwaPoltawskiego-Italic - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-antpri (from antpri) generating new vf : texnansi-antpri (from texnansi-raw-antpri) updating map file : texnansi-public-antp.map generating : ls-r databases mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done. batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=helvetica -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE,TEXMFGW TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN checking root : TEXMFTE mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done. encoding vector : texnansi vendor name : urw source path : /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/fonts/ afm/urw/helvetic font collection : helvetic texmf font root : /usr/local/tetex/share/texmf.local pdftex map file : texnansi-urw-helvetica.map processing files : all on afm path locating afm files : using pattern /usr/local/teTeX/share/ texmf.tetex/fonts/afm/urw/helvetic/*.afm locating afm files : using pattern * no map file at : /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/fonts/ map/pdftex/context/texnansi-urw-helvetica.map font identifier : NimbusSanL-Bold - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-uhvb8a (from uhvb8a) generating new vf : texnansi-uhvb8a (from texnansi-raw-uhvb8a) font identifier : NimbusSanL-BoldCond - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-uhvb8ac (from uhvb8ac) generating new vf : texnansi-uhvb8ac (from texnansi-raw-uhvb8ac) font identifier : NimbusSanL-BoldItal - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-uhvbo8a (from uhvbo8a) generating new vf : texnansi-uhvbo8a (from texnansi-raw-uhvbo8a) font identifier : NimbusSanL-BoldCondItal - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-uhvbo8ac (from uhvbo8ac) generating new vf : texnansi-uhvbo8ac (from texnansi-raw-uhvbo8ac) font identifier : NimbusSanL-Regu - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-uhvr8a (from uhvr8a) generating new vf : texnansi-uhvr8a (from texnansi-raw-uhvr8a) font identifier : NimbusSanL-ReguCond - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-uhvr8ac (from uhvr8ac) generating new vf : texnansi-uhvr8ac (from texnansi-raw-uhvr8ac) font identifier : NimbusSanL-ReguItal - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-uhvro8a (from uhvro8a) generating new vf : texnansi-uhvro8a (from texnansi-raw-uhvro8a) font identifier : NimbusSanL-ReguCondItal - text - tfm + vf generating raw tfm/vpl : texnansi-raw-uhvro8ac (from uhvro8ac) generating new vf : texnansi-uhvro8ac (from texnansi-raw-uhvro8ac) updating map file : texnansi-urw-helvetica.map generating : ls-r databases mktexlsr: Updating /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/ls-R... mktexlsr: Done. batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=courier -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE,TEXMFGW TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN checking root : TEXMFTE mktexlsr:
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
Adam Lindsay wrote: Anyway, back to an earlier suggestion by Hans, --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE seems to work for me, except in the case of Adobe Utopia. In that case, --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFGW should work. Actually, I see the Utopia lines replicated for tl2003+. Should it not be: --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFGW,TEXMFEXTRA ? i need to check what happened with utopia; it seems to be free now (though the licence is kind of unknown; seems to belong to the x consortium now) [That said, I'm getting perplexing results on a texfont --en=ec type- tmf.dat install: there's an insistence on creating bitmaps for these fonts!] eh .. strange, esp at your machine ... Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
David, Sorry I've been quiet on this front. I've been busy with other, non- ConTeXt things for a while, and am in the process of re-engaging with it. In order to run type-tmf.dat, you need a way around the hard-coded -- rootlist=TEXMFMAIN that's in the .dat file. gwTeX keeps the fonts we need in what it calls the TEXMFTE directory. My brutish workaround is as follows: 1) Go to some temp directory. 2) copy type-tmf into that directory: cp /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/data/type-tmf.dat . 3) munge type-tmf to something more gwTeX friendly: sed s/TEXMFMAIN/TEXMFTE/ type-tmf.dat type-tmf-gw.dat (literally: replace every occurrence of TEXMFMAIN with TEXMFTE and put it in type-tmf-gw.dat) 4) run texfont (prepend with sudo if you have errors): texfont type-tmf-gw.dat 5) run it again, if you want the ec encoding: texfont --en=ec type-tmf-gw.dat 6) process one or two test files to see if it really worked: texexec --once --mode=compact texnansi-urw-bookman.tex I hope that works for you. Gerben, Hans, can you think of a way to make this workaround unnecessary? adam David Arnold said this at Tue, 22 Nov 2005 09:08:17 -0800: Hans, When I try: 011-101:/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/data davidarnold$ sudo texfont --encoding=texnansi -batch type-tmf.dat I get a slew of messages similar to this last one: TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 slant factor : 0.167 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/ncntrsbk --help : show some more info Some extra information: texexec --verbose reports: applications will use : /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf This last file is attached. On Nov 22, 2005, at 7:32 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: David Arnold wrote: Taco et al, OK, this didn't work. Log file attached. ? ?\usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] ? \switchtobodyfont[palatino] ? \starttext ? Hello World! ? \stoptext no logfile -) for that one you need to run texfont --encoding=texnansi --batch type-tmf.dat (since you are familiar with texnansi although better than ec, this encoding was never really supported in distributions, only by mouh, which is why you need to generate metrics yourself) This one worked. ?\usetypescript[adobekb][8r,ec] ? \usetypescript[palatino][ec] ? \switchtobodyfont[palatino] ? \starttext ? Hello World! ? \stoptext Two questions: 1. I don't know why one worked and the other didn't. What files could I look at in my tex tree that would give a hint as to which to use? 2. How can I make the first one work? use texfont (or take cont-fnt from the website) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context David Arnold College of the Redwoods Mathematics Department Eureka, CA 95501 (707) 476-4222 http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
David, Sorry I've been quiet on this front. I've been busy with other, non- ConTeXt things for a while, and am in the process of re-engaging with it. In order to run type-tmf.dat, you need a way around the hard-coded -- rootlist=TEXMFMAIN that's in the .dat file. gwTeX keeps the fonts we need in what it calls the TEXMFTE directory. My brutish workaround is as follows: 1) Go to some temp directory. 2) copy type-tmf into that directory: cp /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/data/type-tmf.dat . 3) munge type-tmf to something more gwTeX friendly: sed s/TEXMFMAIN/TEXMFTE/ type-tmf.dat type-tmf-gw.dat (literally: replace every occurrence of TEXMFMAIN with TEXMFTE and put it in type-tmf-gw.dat) 4) run texfont (prepend with sudo if you have errors): texfont type-tmf-gw.dat 5) run it again, if you want the ec encoding: texfont --en=ec type-tmf-gw.dat 6) process one or two test files to see if it really worked: texexec --once --mode=compact texnansi-urw-bookman.tex I hope that works for you. Gerben, Hans, can you think of a way to make this workaround unnecessary? texfont and/or ConTeXt seems to be keyed to a certain distribution setup. I would say that for ConTeXt that is ok (though as far as I know Hans himself keeps the fonts in TEXMFFONTS or so, so he needs a specialized type-tmf.dat as well). That the default is TeX Live also seems to be fine to me. The easiest way would be if you can give this as an argument to texfonts. Another issue is that fonts can be in multiple trees. Some i-Packages may install in texmf.local (so it can be easily uninstalled), or fonts can be in texmf.tetex or texmf.gwtex). I do not know enough about texfont, but if Hans wants to work with me we can sort that out. After all, I probably have a good example of a non-TL multi-tree setup. BTW, there are support reasons why I do not use the TEXMFMAIN name or the standard texmf-dist directory name. G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
Adam Lindsay wrote: Gerben, Hans, can you think of a way to make this workaround unnecessary? doesn't --fontroot=. work? Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
Gerben Wierda wrote: texfont and/or ConTeXt seems to be keyed to a certain distribution setup. I would say that for ConTeXt that is ok (though as far as I know Hans himself keeps the fonts in TEXMFFONTS or so, so he needs a specialized type-tmf.dat as well). That the default is TeX Live also seems to be fine to me. the reason for a separate three texmffonts is that it permits me to update the main tree (wipe out, copy new) and still have my installed extra fonts (i tried to get a texmffonts var in the regular texmf.cnf but that was rejected: objection too many trees while in the meantime we have more trees in tl as well -) The easiest way would be if you can give this as an argument to texfonts. Another issue is that fonts can be in multiple trees. Some i-Packages may install in texmf.local (so it can be easily uninstalled), or fonts can be in texmf.tetex or texmf.gwtex). I do not know enough about texfont, but if Hans wants to work with me we can sort that out. After all, I probably have a good example of a non-TL multi-tree setup. BTW, there are support reasons why I do not use the TEXMFMAIN name or the standard texmf-dist directory name. ah, i see, so the problem is TEXMFMAIN in the dat file before we start hacking ... this --ro stands for --rootlist so it may be a list; so . --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMF.TETEX,TEXMF.GWTEX should work; can someone test that? Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
Gerben Wierda wrote: texfont and/or ConTeXt seems to be keyed to a certain distribution setup. I would say that for ConTeXt that is ok (though as far as I know Hans himself keeps the fonts in TEXMFFONTS or so, so he needs a specialized type-tmf.dat as well). That the default is TeX Live also seems to be fine to me. the reason for a separate three texmffonts is that it permits me to update the main tree (wipe out, copy new) and still have my installed extra fonts (i tried to get a texmffonts var in the regular texmf.cnf but that was rejected: objection too many trees while in the meantime we have more trees in tl as well -) The easiest way would be if you can give this as an argument to texfonts. Another issue is that fonts can be in multiple trees. Some i-Packages may install in texmf.local (so it can be easily uninstalled), or fonts can be in texmf.tetex or texmf.gwtex). I do not know enough about texfont, but if Hans wants to work with me we can sort that out. After all, I probably have a good example of a non-TL multi-tree setup. BTW, there are support reasons why I do not use the TEXMFMAIN name or the standard texmf-dist directory name. ah, i see, so the problem is TEXMFMAIN in the dat file before we start hacking ... this --ro stands for --rootlist so it may be a list; so . --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMF.TETEX,TEXMF.GWTEX --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE,TEXMFGW should work; can someone test that? Are these write or read trees? If it is write, then my guess is the default shoul dbe TEXMFLOCAL because officially that is the place where local site modifications should go. That would also survive an upgrade or install of TeX itself. G ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
Gerben Wierda wrote: Are these write or read trees? If it is write, then my guess is the default shoul dbe TEXMFLOCAL because officially that is the place where local site modifications should go. That would also survive an upgrade or install of TeX itself. these are read trees; the write trees are set with --fontroot Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
Adam, Hans, Taco, et al, Here's the result (GWTeX on Mac Tiger) of replacing TEXMFMAIN with TEXMFTE: 011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ texfont type-tmf-gw.dat TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 processing batch file : type-tmf-gw.dat batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=public --co=antp -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/public/antp --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=helvetica -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/helvetica --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=courier -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/courier --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=zapfchan -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/zapfchan --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=times --so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/times --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=times --so=auto --ca=* utmr8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 caps factor : 0.800 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/times --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=times --so=auto --sl=* utmr8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 slant factor : 0.167 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/times --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=times --so=auto --sl=* utmb8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 slant factor : 0.167 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/times --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=palatino -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/palatino --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=palatino -- so=auto --ca=* uplr8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 caps factor : 0.800 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/palatino --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=palatino -- so=auto --sl=* uplr8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 slant factor : 0.167 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/palatino --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=urw --co=palatino -- so=auto --sl=* uplb8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 slant factor : 0.167 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/palatino --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=adobe --co=utopia -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/adobe/utopia --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=adobe --co=utopia -- so=auto --ca=* putr8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 caps factor : 0.800 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/adobe/utopia --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=adobe --co=utopia -- so=auto --sl=* putr8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 slant factor : 0.167 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/adobe/utopia --help : show some more info batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=adobe --co=utopia -- so=auto --sl=* putb8a --ro=TEXMFMAIN TeXFont
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
David Arnold wrote: Adam, Hans, Taco, et al, Here's the result (GWTeX on Mac Tiger) of replacing TEXMFMAIN with TEXMFTE: 011-101:~/tmp davidarnold$ texfont type-tmf-gw.dat TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 processing batch file : type-tmf-gw.dat batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=public --co=antp -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN are you sure that you replaced it? Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: Getting texfont to do batch installs on gwTeX (was Re: [NTG-context] Palatino)
Hans Hagen said this at Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:39:55 +0100: batch line : --en=texnansi --ve=public --co=antp -- so=auto --ro=TEXMFMAIN are you sure that you replaced it? It's weird. Looking through the rest of David's log, it replaced some of them, but not all. I never claimed to be a sed wizard. To David, I'd say open in a text editor and do a global find/replace. Anyway, back to an earlier suggestion by Hans, --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFTE seems to work for me, except in the case of Adobe Utopia. In that case, --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFGW should work. Actually, I see the Utopia lines replicated for tl2003+. Should it not be: --ro=TEXMFMAIN,TEXMFGW,TEXMFEXTRA ? [That said, I'm getting perplexing results on a texfont --en=ec type- tmf.dat install: there's an insistence on creating bitmaps for these fonts!] -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino
David Arnold wrote: All, Can someone give me a short test file to see if palatino will work on my system (GWTeX and Tiger). For a texfont-installed version of the metrics, this should work: \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \switchtobodyfont[palatino] \starttext Hello World! \stoptext For the psnfss (LaTeX) version, the minimal file is this: \usetypescript[adobekb][8r,ec] \usetypescript[palatino][ec] \switchtobodyfont[palatino] \starttext Hello World! \stoptext Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino
Taco et al,OK, this didn't work. Log file attached. \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \switchtobodyfont[palatino] \starttext Hello World! \stoptextThis one worked. \usetypescript[adobekb][8r,ec] \usetypescript[palatino][ec] \switchtobodyfont[palatino] \starttext Hello World! \stoptextTwo questions:1. I don't know why one worked and the other didn't. What files could I look at in my tex tree that would give a hint as to which to use?2. How can I make the first one work?On Nov 22, 2005, at 1:29 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: \usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] \switchtobodyfont[palatino] \starttext Hello World! \stoptext David ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino
David Arnold wrote: Taco et al, OK, this didn't work. Log file attached. � �\usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] � \switchtobodyfont[palatino] � \starttext � Hello World! � \stoptext no logfile -) for that one you need to run texfont --encoding=texnansi --batch type-tmf.dat (since you are familiar with texnansi although better than ec, this encoding was never really supported in distributions, only by mouh, which is why you need to generate metrics yourself) This one worked. �\usetypescript[adobekb][8r,ec] � \usetypescript[palatino][ec] � \switchtobodyfont[palatino] � \starttext � Hello World! � \stoptext Two questions: 1. I don't know why one worked and the other didn't. What files could I look at in my tex tree that would give a hint as to which to use? 2. How can I make the first one work? use texfont (or take cont-fnt from the website) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino
Hans, When I try: 011-101:/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/context/data davidarnold$ sudo texfont --encoding=texnansi -batch type-tmf.dat I get a slew of messages similar to this last one: TeXFont 2.2.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 2000-2004 slant factor : 0.167 checking root : TEXMFMAIN processing aborted : unknown subpath ../fonts/afm/urw/ncntrsbk --help : show some more info Some extra information: texexec --verbose reports: applications will use : /usr/local/teTeX/texmf.cnf This last file is attached. texmf.cnf Description: Binary data On Nov 22, 2005, at 7:32 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: David Arnold wrote: Taco et al, OK, this didn't work. Log file attached. � �\usetypescript[palatino][texnansi] � \switchtobodyfont[palatino] � \starttext � Hello World! � \stoptext no logfile -) for that one you need to run texfont --encoding=texnansi --batch type-tmf.dat (since you are familiar with texnansi although better than ec, this encoding was never really supported in distributions, only by mouh, which is why you need to generate metrics yourself) This one worked. �\usetypescript[adobekb][8r,ec] � \usetypescript[palatino][ec] � \switchtobodyfont[palatino] � \starttext � Hello World! � \stoptext Two questions: 1. I don't know why one worked and the other didn't. What files could I look at in my tex tree that would give a hint as to which to use? 2. How can I make the first one work? use texfont (or take cont-fnt from the website) Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context David Arnold College of the Redwoods Mathematics Department Eureka, CA 95501 (707) 476-4222 http://online.redwoods.edu/instruct/darnold/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Palatino
All, Can someone give me a short test file to see if palatino will work on my system (GWTeX and Tiger). David ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino truetype: help!
VnPenguin wrote: But unfortunatly my PDF has always CMR12 font, no Palatino at all :( I'm completly newbie with typescript font in ConTeXt. Same result here, and I don't understand why (however, I not very familiar with typescripts myself). Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino truetype: help!
VnPenguin wrote: \usetypescriptfile[type-pala] \usetypescript[MSPalatino] \usetypescript[MSPalatino][t5] or \usetypescript[MSPalatino][\defaultencoding] \setupbodyfont[MyPalatino,12pt] - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino truetype: help!
Taco Hoekwater said this at Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:42:04 +0200: Same result here, and I don't understand why (however, I not very familiar with typescripts myself). Hmm. What's the pdftex output at the font-inclusion stage? -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay, Computing Dept. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lancaster University, InfoLab21+44(0)1524/510.514 Lancaster, LA1 4WA, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/510.492 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Palatino truetype: help!
Hi all, I'm trying to use the font Palatino truetype with ConTeXt under teTeX 3.0 (FC4) by following the guide at http://home.salamander.com/~wmcclain/context-help.html : 1. I have already all 4 files: palabi.ttf, palab.ttf, palai.ttf, pala.ttf (under /usr/share/texmf/fonts/truetype/mscore folder) 2. I have already also all necessary tfm, vf (provided by vnTeX 3.0-rc1 of Han The Thanh) 3. I created a file named type-pala.tex with the following content: - begin type-pala.tex -- \usetypescriptfile[type-buy] \starttypescript[serif] [mspalatino][t5] \usetypescript[serif][fallback] \definefontsynonym [PalatinoLinotype-Roman] [lprr8v] [encoding=t5] \definefontsynonym [PalatinoLinotype-Bold] [lprb8v] [encoding=t5] \definefontsynonym [PalatinoLinotype-Italic] [lprri8v] [encoding=t5] \definefontsynonym [PalatinoLinotype-BoldItalic] [lprbi8v] [encoding=t5] \stoptypescript \starttypescript[serif] [mspalatino] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif] [PalatinoLinotype-Roman] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold] [PalatinoLinotype-Bold] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [PalatinoLinotype-Italic] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [PalatinoLinotype-BoldItalic] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [MSPalatino] [t5] \definetypeface [MyPalatino] [rm] [serif] [mspalatino] [default] [encoding=t5] \stoptypescript --- end of type-pala.tex and a test file : --- begin of test.tex \loadmapfile[mscorevn.map] \language[vn] \mainlanguage[vn] \enableregime[utf] \setupencoding[default=t5] \setupbodyfont[reset] \usetypescriptfile[type-pala] \usetypescript[MSPalatino] \setupbodyfont[MyPalatino,12pt] \starttext Vietnamese UTF-8 text here \stoptext - end of test.tex -- In the map file mscorevn.map ($HOME/texmf/fonts/map/pdftex/vnextra/mscorevn.map) I see : -- mscorevn.map -- lprr8v PalatinoLinotype-Roman T5UniEncoding ReEncodeFont t5uni.enc pala.ttf lprb8v PalatinoLinotype-Bold T5UniEncoding ReEncodeFont t5uni.enc palab.ttf lprri8v PalatinoLinotype-Italic T5UniEncoding ReEncodeFont t5uni.enc palai.ttf lprbi8v PalatinoLinotype-BoldItalic T5UniEncoding ReEncodeFont t5uni.enc palabi.ttf But unfortunatly my PDF has always CMR12 font, no Palatino at all :( I'm completly newbie with typescript font in ConTeXt. With pdflatex, I could use this Palatino font without any problem. Could you help me please , Thank you, Regards ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
[NTG-context] Palatino?
Hi gang, I have a problem on my system with the Palatino font. In type-enc, it's mapped to \definefontsynonym [Palatino] [\typescriptthree-uplr8a] [encoding=\typescriptthree] However, on my system (Gerben Wierda's installation), there is no texnansi- or EC- or whatever-uplr8a. Palatino works flawlessly with LaTeX, mapped to pplr8t, and of course, it works with ConTeXt if I create the tfms myself with texfont, but I thought there was some default support for Palatino. Am I missing something? Best Thomas ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
