[NTG-context] docs (was: Re: Microtype in ConTeXt)
On Sat, Mar 27 2010, Michael Saunders wrote: Notice that Yan Zhou isn't complaining that the docs are old. Our problem is that they are sketchy and rambling, bits and pieces of this and that without any systematic explanations. Often they are just some unexplained code samples that communicate nothing (unless you happen to be the guy who invented the language). I can't think of one command that is fully explained along with all its possible parameters. The wiki is better written, but even less complete. It might not be possible to do better, but this is a huge obstacle to anyone who actually wants to use ConTeXt. The docs hint at a lot of features that sound better than LaTeX, but actually getting them to work is a different story. Hello Michael, See also here: http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20100308.123128.f65942c8.en.html Cheers, Peter -- Contact information: http://pmrb.free.fr/contact/ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] docs (was: Re: Microtype in ConTeXt)
Peter, that post of Hans's mainly argues that the old manual is good
enough and then goes on to talk about development. For example:
Even an old manual can quite well describe functionality as much
didn't change.
It can if it ever did. I don't think cont-eni.pdf etc., describe the
functionality well at all.
As one can visually get all kind of output and as
typographical elements can interfere the ultimate manual would
show $n!$ variants and become quite unreadable. There is no easy
way out of this.
There is: describe each option concisely and abstractly, then you
need only be concerned with $n$ elements. Almost every LaTeX package
manages to do this successfully, and they are very usable.
More documentation would not help all users.
There needn't be more. It needn't be lengthy, just clear, complete,
and concise.
There are quite some options that were never meant for
usage beyond our own, but as we ship the full product, they become
visible. No, they are not documented apart from the source. Yes,
if useful they should be documented but why by me?
Because you are probably the only person on earth who understands
them. Getting that knowledge out of your head and into others' will
require an act of communication.
I only work on a manual (or article or whatever) if it's fun to do.
That may be the problem!
Hans, Here are some constructive suggestions. I hope you take them seriously:
If you ever write another manual, perhaps when MKIV is complete,
1. Start from scratch. Throw away the old material.
2. Forbid yourself the use of code examples. They are a crutch which
impedes communication. First, write the whole manual with normal,
abstract, expository prose. When it's complete and explains
everything fully---when it {\em makes sense}--- {\em then} illustrate
it with as many code samples as you like.
3. Have a standard format, a sort of checklist, for what must be said
about each argument, parameter, command and group of commands:
---What is its function?
---How is it used?
---What is it used for (what effect is it supposed to achieve)?
---What are the options?
A regular format like this will make it much easier on you. You'll
have a regular structure that you simply have to fill in. It might
even make the task more fun.
4. Get someone to serve as an editor.
These will solve most of your writing problems. I look forward to a
new manual someday.
Thanks,
-- Michael
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Re: [NTG-context] docs (was: Re: Microtype in ConTeXt)
That may be the problem! For what it's worth, I agree with you, Michael. ConTeXt developers seem to be unable to express their ideas clearly. It's sad to see such deficient communication skills, and it's to be expected that if they go on all their knowledge is going to be lost. You're right, again, and I thank you for pointing this simple fact that, alas, only a few have noticed until now. Hopefully we will see better than unintelligible scribbles being passed out as documentation in the future. Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] docs
Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. For a newcommer, is Mk II the best choice ? -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? or Is ConTeXt (CTX) compatible with TeX ? I wish to alternate french german texts (so they can be translated in other languages). rb Wanderer, kommst du nach LuaTeX, dann hoff nicht zuviel, sonst hast du PeX ;-) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:01 PM, R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr wrote: Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: read-and-answer-in-0seconds -. For a newcommer, is Mk II the best choice ? yes -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? yes or Is ConTeXt (CTX) compatible with TeX ? yes -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
2009/5/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. On the one hand it's a good idea to write an introduction / a tutorial for something you don't know, because you'll learn it that way. On the other hand it's a very bad idea to write about something you don't know. On the third hand I'm just writing a German introduction for someone who will use ConTeXt MkIV for scripts of a private medical school. As soon as it's usable, I'll release it open source. There are my old intro slides at http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-1lang=de - but they're from 2003 and thus heavily outdated. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
2009/5/14 R. Bastian rbast...@free.fr: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? no, if you know Wolfgang :-D Regards -- Diego Depaoli ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 14 May 2009, R. Bastian wrote: Hi, I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. therefor I cant do anything without your help. A first series of question: -. For a newcommer, is Mk II the best choice ? Yes. But the only major difference (from the user's point of view) in MkII and MkIV is typescript definitions. Other commands are mostly same. -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? For the most part no. You can use ConTeXt without knowing anything about catcodes, text encodings (always use unicode), \hbox and \vbox (use \framed etc), and \halign (use tables and mathalignments). You need to know a bit about font handling, but ConTeXt does that completely differently from TeX. or Is ConTeXt (CTX) compatible with TeX ? It is compatible in the sense that a plain tex document will work in Context. You may not always get the same output as the defaults are different. I wish to alternate french german texts (so they can be translated in other languages). Also see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_on_Excursion%2C_translations The wiki page is old and the svn repo is not accessible right now, but someone started translating it into french. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
R. Bastian wrote: -. Is it necessary to know TeX ? I assume it depends on what you are planning to do with ConTeXt. I've been using ConTeXt for at least five years now, but I've never touched TeX (nor LaTeX nor any others, just ConTeXt). I've got a vague idea what it is about and that's it. Some points though: - background in something else than WYSIWYG editing (What You See Is What You Get = Word, for example) helps a lot. Before I started with ConTeXt I'd already done my share of html and I've learned to do structured documents also in word processing (i.e. mark it heading 1 instead of make that big and black). - I do ConTeXt pretty much with the learn-as-you-go philosophy and when I really have to learn something, I'm pretty determined; most of my ConTeXt usage is at work and if something needs to be done, it has to get done and I can't back off if it seems difficult first. (It took me two days, lot of swearing and a few questions on this mailing list to achieve my first ConTeXt doc in Cyrillic, but I did it in the end. Now it is of course as easy as can be...) - depends on the operationg system and user's backgrouns, too. Those who've used linux/mainframe are probably less likely to be upset by ConTeXt while your average Mac/Windows user may go crazy at the steep start of the learning curve; I'd done some unix and that definitely increased my tolerance. There are days when I swear and yell and curse myself for going over from Word to ConTeXt. But on 9 days out of 10 I pat myself on the back for making the switch. Especially on those styles when MS Word defies all of my attempts to keep a document structurally styled... That's my five cents, Mari ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 14 May 2009 09:49:46 -0400 (EDT) Aditya Mahajan adit...@umich.edu scribit: On Thu, 14 May 2009, R. Bastian wrote: [...] I wish to alternate french german texts (so they can be translated in other languages). Also see http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_on_Excursion%2C_translations The wiki page is old and the svn repo is not accessible right now, but someone started translating it into french. Thanks, but I will write the source in the following manner: \german Was meinst Du? \bavarian Woas moanst? \french Que veux-tu dire ? It is not necessaury to make texian acrobaties: the extraction can be done by a little Python-script Aditya ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 14 May 2009 14:45:20 +0200 Henning Hraban Ramm hra...@fiee.net scribit: 2009/5/14 luigi scarso luigi.sca...@gmail.com: I would write a french german intro-source for (quasi absolute) newcomers which need to have a working system producing PDF texts. But I know nothing about ConTeXt. On the one hand it's a good idea to write an introduction / a tutorial for something you don't know, because you'll learn it that way. On the other hand it's a very bad idea to write about something you don't know. On the third hand I'm just writing a German introduction for someone who will use ConTeXt MkIV for scripts of a private medical school. As soon as it's usable, I'll release it open source. There are my old intro slides at http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-1lang=de - but they're from 2003 and thus heavily outdated. Very fine. I will study the source. Greetlings, Hraban ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] docs
Am 14.05.2009 um 17:12 schrieb R. Bastian: Thanks, but I will write the source in the following manner: \german Was meinst Du? \bavarian Woas moanst? \french Que veux-tu dire ? When you want you complete document in one language you can write \startmode[de] Was meinst du? \stopmode \startmode[fr] Que veux-tu dire ? \stopmode and call context with context --modes=de filename for the german version. For a version with the text for two languages on facing pages you can use your example code as it is with the streams module. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] docs in source, was Re: xml misc
- documentation. (where's lxml_in_luatex documentation? I guess in sources) yes Could anyone write few lines in the wiki to explain how and where to extract doc information from sources? I'm always finding some difficulties in snooping inside ConTeXt Or if it is discussed on the mailing list I can wikify the results. Best -a- -- luigi __ _ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net __ _ -- Andrea Valle -- CIRMA - DAMS Università degli Studi di Torino -- http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Docs package request
Dear Hans, Would it be possible to add a complete documentation package zip to this page: http://www.pragma-ade.com/download-1.htm Basically it would just be the /ConTeXt/doc folder and nothing else. This is far easier for absolute beginners than navigating the website and playing with wget and getting the directory structure right etc. Right now I am telling interested parties to download mswincontesxt.zip, extract the docs directory, and fire up showcase.pdf. Having a docs zip package would make it even easier. Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] Docs package request
On Wed, 31 May 2006 12:37:59 -0600, Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Basically it would just be the /ConTeXt/doc folder and nothing else. I see that things have changed; it's now the /context/docroot/documents folder that I am talking about. Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ ntg-context mailing list ntg-context@ntg.nl http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 13:34:20 -0600 Idris Samawi Hamid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I think bibliographies are VERY basic. I edit an academic journal; each article has to have its own bib and m-bib can only be used once per document, and the (old) version I use has a few bugs (will try the latest version after some mission-critical stuff is out; I've (amateurishly) hacked the old version so that it at least does what I want for now). Hello Idris, If you tell me what you want from the bib package, chances are that it will be added (if you don't, it won't be). Generally, without feature requests there will never be any new features, and without bug reports bugs will never get fixed. So: if anybody has requests for the bib package, let me know. Greetings, Taco ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
William D. Neumann wrote: And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take. I would love to use ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much easier, not just layout and design. Unfortunately, it's inability to play like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, mean eh .. what's wrong with the footnotes? Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Fri, 25 Jun 2004, Hans Hagen wrote: William D. Neumann wrote: And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take. I would love to use ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much easier, not just layout and design. Unfortunately, it's inability to play like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, mean eh .. what's wrong with the footnotes? Set a page in two column with footnotes set to span just the column where the mark is placed (I forget the full commands to do this... I could look them up, but you probably know what they are...). Now, place a footnote. In LaTeX, you get something that looks like: text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text[1] texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text -- text text text text [1] footnote foot text text text text footnote footnote text text text text footnote footnote text text text text In ConTeXt you get something like: text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text[1] texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text -- [1] footnote foot footnote footnote footnote footnote That is, the other column doesn't flow around the footnote in the other column, wasting space and looking ugly. I asked at least twice on this list how to fix this and received no fixes. If you have a fix, I would be *very* pleased to hear about it... William D. Neumann --- Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days. -- Jarvis Cocker Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers. -- Tony-A (some guy on /.) ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
William D. Neumann wrote: In LaTeX, you get something that looks like: text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text[1] texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text -- text text text text [1] footnote foot text text text text footnote footnote text text text text footnote footnote text text text text In ConTeXt you get something like: text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text[1] texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text text text text texttext text text text -- [1] footnote foot footnote footnote footnote footnote That is, the other column doesn't flow around the footnote in the other column, wasting space and looking ugly. I asked at least twice on this list how to fix this and received no fixes. If you have a fix, I would be *very* pleased to hear about it... there is \setupfootnotes[location=columns] but i just found out that that is broken (i have to adapt that to the new multiple footnotes mechanism); will do that btw, in that case footnotes are placed in the last column (the reason why footnotes by default end up on the page is that there can be mixed multi-single column usage Hans ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
Am 24.06.2004 um 16:13 schrieb Maurice Diamantini: A ConTeXt reference book would be much like an uptodate cont-eni.pdf manual. It would be comparable to the couple LaTeX Lamport + Latex Compagnon Would be, should be, yes. But the reference cont-eni.pdf doesn't talk about math nor biblio. Both are extensions from my point of view. Even if math is typical for TeX, it's not typical for ConTeXt. I think the typical university user is content with LaTeX. ConTeXt is for those who like to design their own layout. I seldom need any formula - TeX/ConTeXt is for me simply the system of choice for big documents (books), presentations and everything scriptable. (For most of my work I use InDesign.) Also there is several means to do tables, and it seams that the two main context reference documents (gettingStart and cont-eni.pdf) doesn't talk about the same table system. Morever, neither of them talk about the last most supported table system which seams to be enattab.pdf!! Yes, that's confusing. I made an overview in my german docs, will transfer it to the Wiki soon. And every latex package has its own docs that you should read - some are books itself (e.g. komascript). Doen't know about it, doen't need it, so I'm glab it is not in the latex manuals :-) The KOMA classes are an enhanced replacement for the standard LaTeX classes my Markus Kohm. If you use LaTeX it's a pity if you don't know them! I think the simplest thing to do is a to make a lite introduction documentation for use as a guide about which docs should be seen as reference (which table to use, how to to biblio, ...) Again, I don't think that bibliographies are basic. But I'm no scientific user. Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004 21:12:34 +0200, Henning Hraban Ramm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I don't think that bibliographies are basic. But I'm no scientific user. Actually, I think bibliographies are VERY basic. I edit an academic journal; each article has to have its own bib and m-bib can only be used once per document, and the (old) version I use has a few bugs (will try the latest version after some mission-critical stuff is out; I've (amateurishly) hacked the old version so that it at least does what I want for now). But ConTeXt really needs a full-fledged bibliography solution as part of the basic package I think. Question: in what context (no pun intended) do you use InDesign? Where is ConTeXt not so applicable? Best Idris -- Professor Idris Samawi Hamid Department of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
On Thu, 24 Jun 2004, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: Even if math is typical for TeX, it's not typical for ConTeXt. I think the typical university user is content with LaTeX. ConTeXt is for those who like to design their own layout. And that's, unfortunately, a poor view to take. I would love to use ConTeXt for more of my academic writing, as it makes a lot of tasks much easier, not just layout and design. Unfortunately, it's inability to play like LaTeX when it comes to even such basic things as footnotes, means that I have to constantly turn back to LaTeX whenever I need to write something for work or school. Again, I don't think that bibliographies are basic. But I'm no scientific user. And for those of us who are, bibliographies are *crucial* and should be considered a basic part of any tpesetting program that wants to be taken seriously. And while m-bib is usually sufficient, it too has enough quirks that it's just not worth the time to even bother if you want to submit a paper that has a special format requirement for the bibliographies. William D. Neumann --- Well I could be a genius, if I just put my mind to it. And I...I could do anything, if only I could get 'round to it. Oh we were brought up on the space-race, now they expect you to clean toilets. When you've seen how big the world is, how can you make do with this? If you want me, I'll be sleeping in - sleeping in throughout these glory days. -- Jarvis Cocker Think of XML as Lisp for COBOL programmers. -- Tony-A (some guy on /.) ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs
Am 24.06.2004 um 21:34 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid: Question: in what context (no pun intended) do you use InDesign? Where is ConTeXt not so applicable? My main work (at home) is a bimonthly magazine (unitarische blätter for german unitarian religious fellowship); I know Hans (and perhaps some others) could do it with ConTeXt, but not me; I prefer to work visible if I use a lot of pictures and a non-scriptable layout. Further I use it as text processor for letters etc., but therefore I ever wanted to make a ConTeXt environment. At work (a daily newspaper) we use InDesign for all the ads - that is, I work there as a programmer and sysadmin, so I don't really work with InDesign but only test its PostScript code or PDFs. (Today I recognized that it always writes OPI comments for TIFFs and never for EPS, independent from your output options; further it can't separate duplex EPS from PhotoShop, only DCS...) Sorry for being OT. At work I use ConTeXt for presentations (e.g. Acrobat tutorial) and flowcharts. At home for books, my address book, my ConTeXt tutorial and some small stuff. Grüßlis vom Hraban! --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
Re: [NTG-context] docs naming scheme (was: Examples...)
Am Donnerstag, 20.11.03, um 17:53 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Ralph Pöllath: But that leads me to another question: What's with the naming scheme? It sure doesn't make it easier to memorize which of the many documentation PDFs covers what - unless there is in fact a reason behind it, in which case I'd like to know :-) What starts with m ist mostly a manual (except e.g. magazines, that start with mag); an i oder s means an interactive/screen version, if there's also an p (paper or print) version; sometimes there are language versions, so eni is english interactive, while nlp is nederlandse print. What starts with pre has to do with presentations. What starts with x is about XML. Grüßlis vom Hraban! -- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ ___ ntg-context mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
