Re: [NTG-context] context meeting

2008-08-28 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, August 27, 2008 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Hi,

 I really enjoyed myself at last weeks's meeting. Mojca and friends have
 done a great job. In addition to a filled up program we had a wonderful
 day going around Slovenia (incredibly silent outside the facilities and
 a sky full of stars, something impossible in nl), terrific bonfires,

This ConTeXt meeting has been for me a really wonderful
chance to get back in the loop of the TeX world in general
and the ConTeXt world in particular. My most grateful thanks
go to the organizers (and the participants!) for the the
wonderful week spent in Slovenia.

 I probably forget a few things

You mean, like, git?

8-D

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[NTG-context] Layers in ConTeXt

2007-07-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

I have a couple of questions concerning the use of layers in
ConTeXt. I'm working with Luigi Scarso on a layout which is
characterized by some fixed-position elements surrounding
the actual main body of text.

For the fixed-position elements, I'm using layers. However,
my ConTeXt is a little rusty[*], so there are a couple of
things which I need hints for.

The first one is very simple: is there a way to 'fix' the
layer's content until they change? I've currently set them
as page backgrounds, but their content gets reset on each
new page.

The second question is slightly more complex: is there a way
to add contents to a layer, rather than replacing the
current layer content? Something like a macro

\addtolayer[layername][hoffset=whatever(optional)]{additional content}

Thanks in advance,

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Giuseppe Oblomov Bilotta

P.S. To prove that it's really me, I'll signal two minor
typos in the context source:

core-tab.tex:88:%D   {inintable, ifsplittables}

(first should be ifintable), and

page-lyr.tex:81:  \c!x=\zeropoint,\c!y=\zeropoint,\c!position=\v!no,
page-lyr.tex:87:  \c!location=rb,\c!position=\v!no,\c!page=,

position=no is set twice in the same setup.

[*] I've been out of the loop for a couple of years, the
University has sucked up most of my time. I was never too
happy with it, and I'm planning on a comeback :D

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Re: [NTG-context] Layers in ConTeXt

2007-07-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, July 13, 2007 Peter Rolf wrote:

 Hi Guiseppe,

 welcome back ;)

Thanks :) (btw, it's gIUseppe :D)

 Giuseppe Bilotta schrieb:
 The first one is very simple: is there a way to 'fix' the
 layer's content until they change? I've currently set them
 as page backgrounds, but their content gets reset on each
 new page.
 use a collector (Details, p.75) instead; I have no experience with them,
 but setup should be the same as for layer.

 % - - - - -
 \definecollector[foo][state=repeat]

 \starttext
 \switchtobodyfont[32pt]

 \setcollector[foo]{\strut eat more...}
 \flushcollector[foo]

 \page[yes]

 \setcollector[foo][hoffset=6cm]{\strut poppler}
 \flushcollector[foo]

 \stoptext
 % - - - - -

Excellent, thanks.

BTW, just to show how out of the loop I am, where can I get
the Details manual? :D

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Re: [NTG-context] Layers in ConTeXt

2007-07-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, July 13, 2007 Peter Rolf wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta schrieb:
 The first one is very simple: is there a way to 'fix' the
 layer's content until they change? I've currently set them
 as page backgrounds, but their content gets reset on each
 new page.
 use a collector (Details, p.75) instead; I have no experience with them,
 but setup should be the same as for layer.
 
 % - - - - -
 \definecollector[foo][state=repeat]

 Excellent, thanks.
 
 BTW, just to show how out of the loop I am, where can I get
 the Details manual? :D
 
 http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/details.pdf

Oh yeah thanks. I'll be able to get a few more tricks from
that.

I've found that [state=repeat] works for layers too. I
wonder if there are any technical differences between them
...

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[NTG-context] Linetables ROW alignment

2007-07-14 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all again,

I'm using linetables, because despite their lack of
documentation they've been rather easy to set up to achieve
the effects I needed (colors, alignment, etc).

I have a small problem with the title row though, because I
would like its entries to be all typeset centered (whereas
the rest of columns has them partly left and partly right
aligned) but apparently there is no (easy) way to override
alignment in a single row. In particular,

\setuplinetable[r][1][align=middle]

doesn't work, even though all other specifications (color,
background, style) work as expected.

I think that if a row alignment is required, it should be
applied and take precedente over column alignment. Any
suggestions?

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P.S. Looking at core-ltb.tex I've found that \BH and \EH are
mapped to \linetableBR and \linetableER. Is this
intentional, or a cut-n-paste error? The way it is now,
\linetableBH and \linetableEH are never triggered ...

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[NTG-context] Section marking forgotten on next even page?

2007-07-14 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

why does \page[even] reset the section marks? Shouldn't this
feature be configurable by the user?

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Re: [NTG-context] Layers in ConTeXt

2007-07-15 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Saturday, July 14, 2007 Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 On Fri, 13 Jul 2007, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Hello all,

 Welcome back Giuseppe. I had benifitted a lot from your efforts of
 improving the math support in ConTeXt. Had it not been for the amsl
 module, I might have never switched to ConTeXt and would have missed a
 lot of fun.

Thanks :) I really hope I'll be able to get back at ConTeXt
development and/or other contributions to the TeX world.

 This is how I would do it. Not sure if this is the best way. Use
 tokens to keep track of the current information that should go to the
 layer, and repeat the layer on each page.

 \newtoks\testtoks

 \definelayer[test]
  [ width=\paperwidth,
   height=\paperheight,
  ]

 \startsetups make:test
 \setlayer[test][x=5cm,y=3cm]{\framed[align=normal,width=5cm]{\the\testtoks}}
 \stopsetups

 \setupbackgrounds[page][setups=make:test,background=test]

An interesting approach. I really need to learn to use
setups.

In the end, as the layout specifications got defined more
accurately, it turns out the number and position of the
layer elements is much less flexible than I originally
thought, so I don't need this approach anymore, but I'll
keep it in mind for future needs.

One thing that I've noticed with repeating layers is that
they appear also on 'empty' pages (as in those left by
forcing an even or odd page). Is it possible to suppress
then in those cases? Do the blank pages left by these
commands have a particular setup that can be tweaked?

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[NTG-context] Symmetrical layer positioning?

2007-07-16 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

is there a secret power switch to tell ConTeXt that a
particular layer has different positioning depending on
wether it's on a left or right page?

I can of course do it manually, either by changing the layer
position on each page or by using two layers instead of one,
but I wanted to know if there was a more straightforward way
that I was missing.

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Re: [NTG-context] Symmetrical layer positioning?

2007-07-16 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, July 16, 2007 Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Hello all,

 is there a secret power switch to tell ConTeXt that a
 particular layer has different positioning depending on
 wether it's on a left or right page?

 You can possible use setups and use \doifoddpageelse to set the
 layers. See

 http://archive.contextgarden.net/thread/20061102.171506.2fa793e2.en.html

Thanks a lot. I don't know if using presets is actually
going to reduce the coding, though.

In the mean time, I've found that layers have a doublesided
option. This apparently allows you to override the
left/right settings of a layer, so I tried

\definelayer[title][
  x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdtit,
  y=\topspace,
  width=\wdtit,
  height=\httit,
  state=repeat,
  doublesided=true,
]

\setuplayer[lefttitle][
  x=\backspace,
]

\definelayer[desc][
  x=\backspace,
  y=\topspace,
  width=\wddesc,
  height=\htdesc,
  state=repeat,
  doublesided=true,
]

\setuplayer[leftdesc][
  x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wddesc,
]

\definelayer[figs][
  x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdfig,
  y=\dimexpr\topspace+\makeupheight-\htfig,
  width=\wdfig,
  height=\htfig,
]

\setuplayer[leftfigs][
  x=\backspace,
]

\setupbackgrounds[page][background={color,title,desc,figs},backgroundcolor=elux-ultralight]


However, the 'main' setup is always used, the left one is
never used. Am I doing something wrong?

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Re: [NTG-context] Symmetrical layer positioning?

2007-07-16 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, July 16, 2007 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Monday, July 16, 2007 Aditya Mahajan wrote:

 On Mon, 16 Jul 2007, Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Hello all,

 is there a secret power switch to tell ConTeXt that a
 particular layer has different positioning depending on
 wether it's on a left or right page?

 You can possible use setups and use \doifoddpageelse to set the
 layers. See

 http://archive.contextgarden.net/thread/20061102.171506.2fa793e2.en.html

 Thanks a lot. I don't know if using presets is actually
 going to reduce the coding, though.

 In the mean time, I've found that layers have a doublesided
 option. This apparently allows you to override the
 left/right settings of a layer, so I tried

 \definelayer[title][
   x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdtit,
   y=\topspace,
   width=\wdtit,
   height=\httit,
   state=repeat,
   doublesided=true,
 ]

 \setuplayer[lefttitle][
   x=\backspace,
 ]

 \definelayer[desc][
   x=\backspace,
   y=\topspace,
   width=\wddesc,
   height=\htdesc,
   state=repeat,
   doublesided=true,
 ]

 \setuplayer[leftdesc][
   x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wddesc,
 ]

 \definelayer[figs][
   x=\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdfig,
   y=\dimexpr\topspace+\makeupheight-\htfig,
   width=\wdfig,
   height=\htfig,
 ]

 \setuplayer[leftfigs][
   x=\backspace,
 ]

 \setupbackgrounds[page][background={color,title,desc,figs},backgroundcolor=elux-ultralight]


 However, the 'main' setup is always used, the left one is
 never used. Am I doing something wrong?

Apparently, I mistook what the doublesided option does for
layers. I've currently solved the problem in the following
way:

\unexpanded\def\titlexpos{%
  \ifodd\realpageno\dimexpr\wdinside+\wdall-\wdtit\else\wdinside\fi
}

\definelayer[title][
  x=\titlexpos,
  y=\topspace,
  width=\wdtit,
  height=\httit,
]

\unexpanded\def\descxpos{%
  \ifodd\realpageno\wdinside\else\dimexpr\wdinside+\wdall-\wddesc\fi
}

\definelayer[desc][
  x=\descxpos,
  y=\topspace,
  width=\wddesc,
  height=\htdesc,
]

\unexpanded\def\figsxpos{%
  \ifodd\realpageno\dimexpr\backspace+\wdall-\wdfig\else\wdinside\fi
}

\definelayer[figs][
  x=\figsxpos,
  y=\dimexpr\topspace+\makeupheight-\htfig,
  width=\wdfig,
  height=\htfig,
]

\setupbackgrounds[page][background={color,title,desc,figs},backgroundcolor=elux-ultralight]


However, this solution doesn't strike me as particularly
elegant. I've seen in page-lyr.tex that support for
left/right layers is currently in progress, but if I read
the code correctly it just creates three layers (name,
leftname, rightname) and they have to be filled
individually. It would be nice to have a simpler interface
to repeated layers with position recalculated on each page.

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Re: [NTG-context] Symmetrical layer positioning?

2007-07-17 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, July 17, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 2007/7/17, Giuseppe Bilotta [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Apparently, I mistook what the doublesided option does for
 layers. I've currently solved the problem in the following
 way:

 \definelayer[test][doublesided=yes]

 \setlayer[test][odd][..,..=..,..]{content}

 \setlayer[test][even][..,..=..,..]{content}

Indeed, but if I want both sides to always have the same
content, I need to double-code every content insertion, or
write a macro to do that for me. It just moves the trickery
somewhere else :)

My expectation was that when \setlayer is used without
specification on a doublesided layer, it would set the
content for both sides. Alternatively, a way to specify
(even via presets) a position which is page-parity dependent
would be a good thing.

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[NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit

2007-07-19 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

I have to place a number of images into some given-size
frames in a layer. The images should be scaled
proportionally to fit into the frame. The code I'm working
with is:

\defineframed[framedimg][
  frame=on,framecolor=elux,
  background=color,
  backgroundcolor=white,
  width=\wdfig,
  height=\htfigone,
  offset=overlay,
]

\setlayer[figs][voffset=\nextfigvoff]{%
  \framedimg{%
\externalfigure[#1][
  factor=fit,
  % maxwidth=\wdfig,
  % maxheight=\htfigone,
  % frame=on,
]%
  }%
}%

where \wdfig, \htfigone are the frame size and \nextfigvoff
is the vertical offset which must be placed. I've tried
factor=fit, factor=max, but in both cases I get images which
cross the boundaries of the frame, mostly in the horizontal
direction. If I add the maxwidth/maxheight specification,
images don't get scaled at all.

I would expect factor=fit to scale the image in such a way
that the biggest direction fits into the enclosing box,
while factor=max would scale the image in such a way that
the smallest direction fits into the enclosing box. Instead,
in both cases the vertical direction is being fitted, with
no apparent consideration for the horizontal direction.

What am I doing wrong and what should I do to fix it?

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Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit

2007-07-20 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, July 20, 2007 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Hello all,

 I have to place a number of images into some given-size
 frames in a layer. The images should be scaled
 proportionally to fit into the frame. The code I'm working
 with is:

 \defineframed[framedimg][
   frame=on,framecolor=elux,
   background=color,
   backgroundcolor=white,
   width=\wdfig,
   height=\htfigone,
   offset=overlay,
 ]

 \setlayer[figs][voffset=\nextfigvoff]{%
   \framedimg{%
 \externalfigure[#1][
   factor=fit,
   % maxwidth=\wdfig,
   % maxheight=\htfigone,
   % frame=on,
 ]%
   }%
 }%

 where \wdfig, \htfigone are the frame size and \nextfigvoff
 is the vertical offset which must be placed. I've tried
 factor=fit, factor=max, but in both cases I get images which
 cross the boundaries of the frame, mostly in the horizontal
 direction. If I add the maxwidth/maxheight specification,
 images don't get scaled at all.

 I would expect factor=fit to scale the image in such a way
 that the biggest direction fits into the enclosing box,
 while factor=max would scale the image in such a way that
 the smallest direction fits into the enclosing box. Instead,
 in both cases the vertical direction is being fitted, with
 no apparent consideration for the horizontal direction.

 What am I doing wrong and what should I do to fix it?

Ok, I've tried studying the source and I really think that
the way factor scaling is computed is wrong. However, the
fix is nontrivial, and a somewhat thorough checking should
be implemented, with earlier check for the factor value
(fit, max, broad), since the logic selecting which dimension
to scale depends on the kind of scaling.

Anyway, I've found a temporary solutin to my problem by
using a very large value of scale=, coupled with appropriate
maxwidth and maxheight values.

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Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit

2007-07-22 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Saturday, July 21, 2007 Brian R. Landy wrote:

 Hi,

 What version of ConTeXt are you using?  I just noticed a difference a
 few days ago between the version installed by TeXLive 2007 and the
 April 2007 release (tested locally  through contextgarden) placing
 an image into a natural table, using factor=max.  I'll post an
 example in a separate thread shortly.

According to the log:

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.04.17 12:51 MKII  fmt: 2007.7.17  int: english/english

It's the one shipped with Debian.

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Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit

2007-07-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, July 23, 2007 luigi scarso wrote:

 the fit assumes operating on a page not in a box; an alternative is:

 \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]
   
 {\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=4cm,maxheight=5cm,width=10cm]}

 i.e. setting the maximum values

 hmm,
 \frame can be slow.
 Maybe something like \vbox to4cm{\hsize=5cm ..} ?

Well, I'm already in a frame so it's not a problem.

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Re: [NTG-context] \setupheader: leftstyle rightstyle

2007-07-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, July 22, 2007 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 However, there seems to be a little bug. This works perfectly well for
 section (\getmarking[section]), but for chapter the chapter labels
 seem to be erased after the first appearance.

Do you have a \page[even] in between? I've found that the
markings of the last section get cleared when an empty page
is inserted. See also my thread “Section marking forgotten
on next even page?”

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Re: [NTG-context] factor=fit images don't fit

2007-07-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, July 22, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:

 the fit assumes operating on a page not in a box;

Ah, didn't know that. I couldn't even tell from the sources,
since it uses enclosing box dimensions and not page or paper
sizes. I suspect the logic is broken at the page level too
though, let me explain why.

Currently, if I understand the code correctly, factor=fit
expands the figure to have its major direction fit, while
factor=max expands the figure to have its minor direction
fit.

Instead, the behavior I would expect from fit (resp. max) is
for the *expansion ratio* to be the minimum (resp. maximum)
of the expansion ratios in the two directions (not the sizes
in those directions, but the ratio between the sizes of the
figure and the container). The difference is noticeable when
the container and contained have different aspect ratios.

Consider for example a 20x30mm figure in a 50x150mm page
(strange numbers, just used to show what I mean): with the
current code, using 'fit' would consider the largest
dimension (30) and thus calculate a factor of 150/30 = 5,
but this gives us an image which is 100x150mm, i.e. an image
that doesn't fit! Whereas, if we computed the ratios 50/20 =
2.5 and 150/30 = 5, we would know that the ratio to be
picked was 2.5 in 'fit' and 5 in 'max'.

Or I misintepreting the meaning of 'fit' and 'max'?

  an alternative is:

 \framed[width=5cm,height4cm]
   
 {\externalfigure[mill.png][maxwidth=4cm,maxheight=5cm,width=10cm]}

 i.e. setting the maximum values

I hadn't thought about using width and maxwidth (and
maxheight) at the same time, thanks. Of course, I'd rather
have 'fit' and 'max' usable in boxes :)

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[NTG-context] Typo in xtag-pre.tex

2007-07-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base$ grep letterhar *
xtag-pre.tex:\defineXMLentities [tex-hat]{\letterhar}{\^{}}
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/share/texmf/tex/context/base$ grep letterhat *
cont-new.tex:   \let\normalsuper\letterhat
cont-new.tex:  {\let\normalsuper\letterhat
syst-chr.tex:.catcode `.^ 12 .xdef .letterhat B.string^E
xtag-ini.tex:\letcatcodecommand\xmlcatcodesr `\^ \letterhat
xtag-map.tex:   \defineXMLentity[tex-hat]\letterhat
xtag-raw.tex:\defineXMLentity [tex-hat]{\letterhat}
xtag-run.tex:   .catcode`.^=.@@active .let^.letterhat

I suspect xtag-pre should read letterha*t* and not
letterha*r* ...

Should these kind of bugs be reported to the bugtracker too,
or maybe just there?

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[NTG-context] Framing a linetable?

2007-07-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

is it possible to put a frame around a linetable?

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[NTG-context] Linetable columns with natural width

2007-07-24 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

I really like linetables, but there's one thing I'm having
problems with: setting its column to have a 'natural' width
depending on maximum content width, and letting ConTeXt
calculate this automatically. Is it possible?

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[NTG-context] Vertical align inside a frame?

2007-07-27 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

how do I tell ConTeXt that I want the frame content to be
top, bottom or middle aligned? I found no way to specify
*vertical* alignment except by nesting frames and specifying
the location= of the inner frame as desired. Am I missing
something obvious?

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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical align inside a frame?

2007-07-28 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Saturday, July 28, 2007 Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

 Are you maybe looking for p. 254 of cont-eni.pdf?

Oh yes! top and bottom. Thanks a lot!

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Re: [NTG-context] Vertical align inside a frame?

2007-07-28 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Saturday, July 28, 2007 Patrick Gundlach wrote:

 Hi Giuseppe,

 the location= of the inner frame as desired. Am I missing
 something obvious?

 I don't think so, this was an example from Hans:

 \framed[width=2cm,align=middle,location=hanging]{location\\equals\\hanging}
 \framed[width=2cm,align=middle,location=depth]  {location\\equals\\depth}
 \framed[width=2cm,align=middle,location=height] {location\\equals\\height}
 B}

[snip]

Yeah, this is what I was thinking too. But as Thomas pointed
out, top and bottom can be used to tune the internal
vertical alignment.

 PS: welcome back!

Thanks :)

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Re: [NTG-context] Framing a linetable?

2007-07-28 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, July 24, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 is it possible to put a frame around a linetable?

 you mean the whole table?

 probably a matter of hooks; linetables work page-wise which may
 complicate things a bit so it has to be applied piecewise

I've been experimenting with this a little.

Putting the whole linetable inside a frame doesn't work
because of the \nointerlinelineskip in

\ifdim\topskipgap=\zeropoint\else¶
  \verticalstrut\nobreak\kern-\struttotal\kern-\parskip\nobreak\nointerlineskip 
% fix topskip¶
\fi¶

in \flushlinetableparts -- if I comment out this section of
the code, the table gets placed, but the frame is somewhat
short.

This is in fact a bug in linetables which I noticed before,
even though it didn't affect me until recently: if the last
line in a table is a \vtop (\linetablemode is 0) with more
than one line of text, the flattening of its depth in
\flushlinetableparts

\dp\tablebox\linetablepart\strutdepth

causes the text after the table to appear *in* the table
itself.

So I commented out the depth smashing, and the frame now has
the correct size.

There is one more thing missing, though, and it's the fact
that the table is typeset halfway to the right of the frame,
as if a large indentation was placed before each line. If I
manage to squeeze out this last bug, I can frame the table
automatically which will be a great advantage for me.

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[NTG-context] Linetable height (actually, depth) bug

2007-07-28 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

as I mentioned in the 'framing a linetable' thread, there is
a bug in the stable (march '07) version of ConTeXt
concerning the linetable *depth*.

Example file:

\setupcolors[state=start]

\starttext
\setuplinetable[r][2][height=30pt,background=color,backgroundcolor=blue]
\startlinetable
\BR \BC one \EC \BC two \EC \ER
\BR \BC three \EC \BC four \EC \ER
\stoplinetable
more text
\stoptext


more text will appear in the blue area of the second line,
instead of after the linetable, because the depth of the
table lines are smashed to be one strutdepth in
\flushlinetableparts

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Re: [NTG-context] Non-printing macro disturbs line justification.

2007-07-29 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Saturday, July 28, 2007 John R. Culleton wrote:

 I did a big project in Context and becuse I wanted to use the special
 features of eplain's interface to makeindex I wrote my own indexing
 macro. Every place I inserted a call to this macro extra space
 appeared at that point.  Here is my macro:

 \def\sidx#1{\write\ind{\\indexentry{#1}{\the\pageno}}}

 I had to retreat to the regular Context indexing tag.  Can someone
 spot the flaw in my definition?

Don't know if it's significant, but what if you use \slash
instead of \\ ?

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[NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats

2007-07-31 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

here's a test document:


\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

\newbox\testbox

\starttext

\setbox\testbox\vbox{%
\placefigure[outer,none,fit]{}{%
  \framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}%
}%

\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
}

\box\testbox

\page

\setbox\testbox\vbox{%
\placefigure[outer,none,fit]{}{%
  \framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}%
}%

\startitemize
\item some test
\item \input knuth
\item \input tufte
\stopitemize
}


\box\testbox
\stoptext


As you may notice, items think the placefigure refers to all
of them, so that if a particular item is bigger than the
figure height, it will wrap correctly around the
(inexistent) box, otherwise it will just side it.

Interesting, the same thing does *not* happen when not going
through a box, but typesetting things directly in the page.
However, for my application I need to typeset the sidefloat
and the itemization in a box, so I hit the bug ...

Suggestions?

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Re: [NTG-context] Linetable height (actually, depth) bug

2007-07-31 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, July 29, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 as I mentioned in the 'framing a linetable' thread, there is
 a bug in the stable (march '07) version of ConTeXt
 concerning the linetable *depth*.
 
 Example file:
 
 \setupcolors[state=start]
 
 \starttext
 \setuplinetable[r][2][height=30pt,background=color,backgroundcolor=blue]
 \startlinetable
 \BR \BC one \EC \BC two \EC \ER
 \BR \BC three \EC \BC four \EC \ER
 \stoplinetable
 more text
 \stoptext
 
 
 more text will appear in the blue area of the second line,
 instead of after the linetable, because the depth of the
 table lines are smashed to be one strutdepth in
 \flushlinetableparts

 can you test with the version from the beta if this problem is still there?

I just tried with

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.07.29 22:06 MKII  fmt: 2007.7.31  int: english/english

and I get the same problem.

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Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats

2007-07-31 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism.

 \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

 \usemodule[streams]
 \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth]

 \newbox\giuseppe

 \starttext

 \startstreamlayer[giuseppe]
 \placefigure
   [outer,none,fit]
   {}
   {\framed[width=.2\hsize,height=.2\hsize,offset=none]{}}

 \startitemize
 \item some test
 \item \input knuth
 \item \input tufte
 \stopitemize
 \stopstreamlayer

 \vbox{\placestreamlayer[giuseppe]}

 \stoptext

Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course,
I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox
wouldn't do it ...

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Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats

2007-07-31 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

 you can use ConTeXt's stream mechanism.

 \setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided]

 \usemodule[streams]
 \definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\textwidth]

I've noticed that specifying width= in the streamlayer
definition is not enough to force the stream width. If the
width is different from the textwidth, I have to use
something like

\startsetups streamlayer:giuseppe:settings
  \overloadtextwidth\gbwidth
\stopsetups

I would have expected

\definestreamlayer[giuseppe][width=\gbwidth]

to handle this automatically though.

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Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats

2007-07-31 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, July 31, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Ah, excellent, it works perfectly, thanks a lot! Of course,
 I'm still curious about the reason why a standard vbox
 wouldn't do it ...

 sidefloats hook into the output routine and that does ot work in a box;

Makes sense.

 streams intercept the page stream (nasty but neat); expect more of that
 kind of stuff

You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an
extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being
255 by default but which could be changed at runtime,
choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally
thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense
complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and
Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made
more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it
would have been a useful addition.

(Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that
luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see
that the project has been taken over when I disappeared
without a trace :P)

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Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats

2007-08-01 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 You know, seeing how streams work made me think about an
 extension I was considering for Alpeh: \pageboxnumber, being
 255 by default but which could be changed at runtime,
 choosing which box was used to build the MVL. I originally
 thought about it because my mathematically aesthetical sense
 complained that box 255 had to be used in e-TeX and
 Omega/Aleph as well (the last box number in each system made
 more sense), but now that I see your streams idea I think it
 would have been a useful addition.

 this will become configurable in luatex

Ah, good to know.

 (Oh yes, I should really get back to Aleph. I see that
 luatex builds on that too. I must say that I'm glad to see
 that the project has been taken over when I disappeared
 without a trace :P)

 well, luatex renders aleph kind of obsolete -)

Yeah, I got that impression :)

 also, luatex has pdf output (also for aleph stuff)

This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also,
as part of my “getting back into the loop”, do you think
there's some where/some how I can give a hand?

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Re: [NTG-context] Boxed items don't like sidefloats

2007-08-02 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, August 1, 2007 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 This is a very good thing. I have big hopes up for it. Also,
 as part of my ?getting back into the loop?, do you think
 there's some where/some how I can give a hand?

 well, mplib ... apart from going megapost (your speciality) 3d will be
 added and since you're the mathemagician who can think in 6 dimensions ...

Ah, this is something I can more probably involve my
university with. While my advisor doesn't care much about
TeX per se, numerical things are much more of its taste.

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Re: [NTG-context] [ot] \relax

2007-08-10 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, August 10, 2007 luigi scarso wrote:

 Martina was born on thursday,August 09 2007 (09/08/07).
 Mum and  baby are allright, daddy  a bit blurred, as the photo says .

Congratulazioni! :) Ora comincia il bello ...

Congratulations! :) Now the fun starts ...

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Re: [NTG-context] installing MKIV

2007-08-11 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, August 10, 2007 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Actually, /usr/bin/luatex --luaonly could be used as
 shebang. It doesn't work on all systems, but it should work
 on most modern installations.

 Yes, but #!/usr/bin/env luatex --luaonly is much less portable, and
 tex-related binaries are hardly ever in fixed locations.

Oh right, env. Well, it works on my system even with env,
but I know, I'm just lucky :)

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[NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
I just upgraded my MiKTeX and ConTeXt, and I found out that
ConTeXt tries to load Latin Modern regardless of my choice.
Example document:


\setupbodyfont[ppl,rm,12pt]%

\starttext
Hello, world!
\stoptext


Discarding my \setupbodyfont, ConTeXt tries to load
ec-lmr12.

Suggestions?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, July 6, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Adam Lindsay wrote:
 Giuseppe Bilotta said this at Wed, 6 Jul 2005 14:02:10 +0200:
 
 
\setupbodyfont[ppl,rm,12pt]%
 
 
 ppl is defined in type-pre, which is apparently deprecated in the latest
 ConTeXt.

 \usetypescript[palatino][ec]
 \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]

 instead

ConTeXt still tries to load lmr12, though:

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (MiKTeX 2.4) (preloaded 
format=cont-en 2005.7.6)  6 JUL 2005 15:47
entering extended mode
**tesi.tex
(tesi.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2005.06.27  fmt: 2005.7.6  int: english  mes: english

language: language en is active
protectionstate 0
system  : cont-new loaded
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\cont-new.tex
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color   : palette rollover is available
)
system  : cont-old loaded
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\cont-old.tex
loading : Context Old Macros
)
system  : cont-fil loaded
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\cont-fil.tex
loading : Context File Synonyms
)
system  : cont-sys.rme loaded
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\user\cont-sys.rme
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\./type-exa.tex)
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\./type-syn.tex)
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\./type-enc.tex)
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\./type-dis.tex)
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\./type-siz.tex)
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\./type-map.tex)
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\./type-spe.tex)
(C:\localtexmf\tex\context\base\./type-akb.tex))
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
! Font \*12ptrmtf*=ec-lmr12 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.
to be read again 
   \relax 
\xxdododefinefont ...tspec {#4}\newfontidentifier 
  \let \localrelativefontsiz...

\fontstrategy ...ame #1\csname #2#3#4#5\endcsname 
  \tryingfontfalse \fi 
inserted text ...yle \fontalternative \fontsize 
  \fi \iftryingfont \fontstr...

\synchronizefont ...strategy \the \fontstrategies 
  \relax \fi \ifskipfontchar...
argument \getvalue [EMAIL PROTECTED]@ \fontstyle }
   \edef \fontstyle {\fontstyle }\if...
...
l.1 
\usetypescript[palatino][ec]
? x
 
Here is how much of TeX's memory you used:
 636 strings out of 61510
 10115 string characters out of 652806
 478845 words of memory out of 1054075
 36224 multiletter control sequences out of 6
 7 words of font info for 0 fonts, out of 50 for 1000
 156 hyphenation exceptions out of 4999
 27i,0n,26p,200b,473s stack positions out of 1500i,500n,5000p,20b,32768s
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, July 6, 2005 luigi.scarso wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:


ConTeXt still tries to load lmr12, though:

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.21a-2.2 (MiKTeX
2.4) (preloaded format=cont-en 2005.7.6)  6 JUL 2005 15:47
entering extended mode
**tesi.tex
(tesi.tex
  

 I N   B O C C A   A L   L U P O  !!!

Crepi il lupo! :)

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, July 6, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 this is weird, esp since this is pretty old untouched stuff

I'll bet it's because lm is the new default font, so
regardless of what I try to load it still tries to get that,
first thing.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, July 6, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 ! Font \*12ptrmtf*=ec-lmr12 not loadable: Metric (TFM) file not found.

 maybe its a fall back font that is loaded here; in any case, you need to have
 latin modern on your machine (well, you want that any way in order to 
 hyphenate
 italian -)

By no reason I should *need* Latin Modern. I want to use Palatino,
not Latin Modern. If ConTeXt can't find a font, it should
complain about *that* font missing.

I also tried Otared's suggestion. Same thing. Regardless of
what's in the document, ConTeXt *still* tries loading Latin
Modern. Why?

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Re: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, July 6, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 I just upgraded my MiKTeX and ConTeXt, and I found out that
 ConTeXt tries to load Latin Modern regardless of my choice.
 Example document:

 
 \setupbodyfont[ppl,rm,12pt]%

 \starttext
 Hello, world!
 \stoptext
 

 Discarding my \setupbodyfont, ConTeXt tries to load
 ec-lmr12.

 Suggestions?

Ok, in the end my solution was to \let\preloadfonts\relax in
my cont-loc.

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Re[4]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, July 6, 2005 Otared Kavian wrote:

 \usetypescript [adobekb]   [ec]

Thank you very much. This, combined with the suppression of
\preloadfonts, fixed all of my problems.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-06 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, July 6, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 By no reason I should *need* Latin Modern. I want to use Palatino,
 not Latin Modern. If ConTeXt can't find a font, it should
 complain about *that* font missing.

 Context behaves precisely like before: it loads the fallback family at
 \everyjob. It absolutely has to, because otherwise plain compatibility
 wouldn't work (when typesetting is done without or before \starttext)

 This one-liner:

$ pdfetex \cont-en \\bye

 also loads ec-cmr12, as well as some latin moderns, and the whole set
 of cmr math fonts.

 The only reason why people notice now is that they do not have
 lmr12 while everybody had cmr12.

The fallback being a fallback, it should be something that
everybody has for sure. So it should stay cmr12. This, at
least, is MNHO.

Is there a way to set the fall-back font? (In cont-usr or
something)

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Wednesday, July 6, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 The fallback being a fallback, it should be something that
 everybody has for sure. So it should stay cmr12. This, at
 least, is MNHO.
 
 Is there a way to set the fall-back font? (In cont-usr or
 something)

 actually, lmr will be in all distributions, if it isn't
 already; it will replace cmr (at least the non math part)
 [either or not by map file entries]; the reason why i push
 it a bit is (1) it needs testing and (2) well, i want to
 push usage, and (3) it is simply a better solution esp
 with accented characters.

 So, even if you use cmr12, it will be mapped onto lmr12
 (either in (con)tex(t) or by means of a map file); don't
 worry, it is compatible; (although there may be future
 variants that have improvements)

Yes, but my point is that I *don't* use cmr (at least not in
this document), so I see no reason why ConTeXt shoud load
lmr :)

So, how do I set my preferred fall-back font?

BTW, does ConTeXt support the pazo family of fonts?

http://www.ctan.org/tex-archive/help/Catalogue/entries/mathpazo.html

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[NTG-context] \openlineheight not set

2005-07-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
It seems that \setupbodyfont does not set \openlineheight, I
have to call \switchtobodyfont to call it. Is this as
intended?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-08 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, July 7, 2005 Adam Lindsay wrote:

 Me neither, but they look to be of good quality, but of lesser glyph
 coverage (lacking AMS symbols) than the PX fonts. That said, the basic
 three fonts are 99.8% glyph compatible with the existing PX support.

So ConTeXt uses the PX family for math support when Palatino
is in use?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Why does ConTeXt try to load Latin Modern?

2005-07-08 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, July 8, 2005 Adam Lindsay wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta said this at Fri, 8 Jul 2005 10:11:01 +0200:

Thursday, July 7, 2005 Adam Lindsay wrote:

 Me neither, but they look to be of good quality, but of lesser glyph
 coverage (lacking AMS symbols) than the PX fonts. That said, the basic
 three fonts are 99.8% glyph compatible with the existing PX support.

So ConTeXt uses the PX family for math support when Palatino
is in use?

 That's my understanding of it, yes.
 Reading more about it yesterday, that does indeed sound non-optimal.

 Can you say what the requirements would be for improving Palatino math
 support would be?

Well, all things considered I would say that augmenting the
mathpazo collection would be the best thing.

 (And have you tried my little typescript hack?)

Yes. It works perfectly, thanks :)

 For those trying to follow along:

 Young Ryu's pxmath:
 * Current ConTeXt choice
 + Complete AMS glyph coverage
 - Some spacing bugs
 - No longer supported, and deprecated in LaTeX world

 Diego Puga's mathpazo:
 * LaTeX's preferred choice (of free fonts)
 + heavily tested spacing
 - only 'basic' math support

 I think some sort of hybrid is possible. Without relying on virtual
 fonts, it would be necessary to make a choice between the two blackboard
 options.

Is it possible to set mathpazo as the default math font for
Palatino, and setting px as the fallback?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] How to override a font in a typescript

2005-07-08 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, July 8, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 Practical example: when I set up palatino, the typescript
 file set 'modern' as the typeface (which again tries to load
 the lm files :))
 
 Assume now that I want to overrule that choice, and only
 that choice. Can I do this from within my source file?

 one problem is that a typescript not always defines rm, ss tt mm so that 
 leaves
 you with holes in your font system; one option is to nil the preloader in for
 instance the palatino typescript; put this in your local copy of cont-sys.tex:

 \let\preloadfonts\relax
 \usetypescript[palatino][\defaultencoding]
 \setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]

I already nihiled preloadfonts in my cont-loc. Otherwise, I
wouldn't have been able to compile anything so far :)

The problem is that the Palatino typescript *explictily*
mentions 'modern' as its tt font (scaled by 1.75). I would
like to override that in my source file. Is this possible?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] How to override a font in a typescript

2005-07-08 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, July 8, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 you can define any typescript that you want, so

 \starttypescript [my-palatino] [ec]

\definetypeface [palatino] [rm] [serif] [palatino] [default]
 [encoding=\typescripttwo]
\definetypeface [palatino] [tt] [mono]  [courier]   [default]
 [encoding=\typescripttwo,rscale=1.075] % probably smaller, say .95
\definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math]  [palatino]
 [default] [encoding=default]

 \stoptypescript

 \usetypescript[my-palatino][ec] ...

Ok so far, but having to rewrite all of it just to override a
single value seems excessive, to me. Isn't there a simple
way to only override only some things?

I had tried a \definetypeface line on its own, but it didn't
seem to work ...

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[NTG-context] Preliminary support for the Luxi typeface

2005-07-08 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
I couldn't find the appropriate typescript definition in
ConTeXt, so here's the initial stuff:

\starttypescript[mono][luxi][\defaultencoding]
  \definefontsynonym[Luxi]   [\defaultencoding-ul9r8a] 
[encoding=\defaultencoding]
  \definefontsynonym[LuxiBold]   [\defaultencoding-ul9b8a] 
[encoding=\defaultencoding]
  \definefontsynonym[LuxiOblique]
[\defaultencoding-ul9ro8a][encoding=\defaultencoding]
  \definefontsynonym[LuxiBoldOblique]
[\defaultencoding-ul9bo8a][encoding=\defaultencoding]
\stoptypescript

% Maybe should map Slanted, not Italic
\starttypescript[mono][luxi][name]
  \definefontsynonym[Mono][Luxi]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoBold][LuxiBold]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoItalic][LuxiOblique]
  \definefontsynonym[MonoBoldItalic][LuxiBoldOblique]
\stoptypescript

Of course there's the usual Berry name mapping needed if you only
have the LaTeX metrics, which go to the regular expression

ul9[rb]o?8[artc]

as usual.

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[NTG-context] Need more documentation on tables

2005-09-10 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Ok, even with the wiki and all the manuals around (which are
getting obsolete, too) there is definitely too little
documentation on the various tabulation formats.

The biggest problem is that each table type has its ability,
but there is nothing that can do everything.

Simplest example, I'm currently having a problem using a
start/stoptabulate (which I need because \RC  friends don't
work in start/stoptable) but I don't know how to span
multiple columns (which can be done in start/stoptable with
\use, which doesn't work in start/stoptabulate)

What am I supposed to do?

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Re: [NTG-context] Need more documentation on tables

2005-09-11 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Saturday, September 10, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Ok, even with the wiki and all the manuals around (which are
 getting obsolete, too) there is definitely too little
 documentation on the various tabulation formats.

 The biggest problem is that each table type has its ability,
 but there is nothing that can do everything.

 Simplest example, I'm currently having a problem using a
 start/stoptabulate (which I need because \RC  friends don't
 work in start/stoptable) but I don't know how to span
 multiple columns (which can be done in start/stoptable with
 \use, which doesn't work in start/stoptabulate)

 What am I supposed to do?

Read the sources, of course. Once I found about \ReFormat in
the TaBlE mechanism, I was done. It's more verbose than the
tabulate way, but it works perfectly.

Should I write some documentation about TaBlE preambles and
commands (for the Wiki), or would it be against some rule
about its ($$$) documentation?

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[NTG-context] Switching to smaller font more thoroughly

2005-09-11 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
For a particular table, I need to switch to a smaller body
font. Currently I'm using

{\tfxx
\placetable etc

\par}

but this way the math in the table doesn't get switched. Is
there a way to make a more thorough switch? I tried
\switchtobodyfont but it didn't work ...

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Switching to smaller font more thoroughly

2005-09-12 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 12, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 For a particular table, I need to switch to a smaller body
 font. Currently I'm using
 
 {\tfxx
 \placetable etc
 
 \par}
 
 but this way the math in the table doesn't get switched. Is
 there a way to make a more thorough switch? I tried
 \switchtobodyfont but it didn't work ...

 Have you tried to put the \swichtobodyfont inside the
 argument?

\placetable[here][tables]{Caption}{
   \switchtobodyfont[5pt]
   etc.
}

It doesn't work either way.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Disappearing figures

2005-09-12 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 12, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Same problem here, even with only this:

\starttext
\externalfigure[curves.1]
\stoptext

 I've copied curves.1 from the tests dir to its parent,
 and I still get a 'not found' on the second run. Makes no
 sense.


Interestingly, it's even *much* slower (probably because it
goes looking for files trying every possible extension)

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] No parindent?

2005-09-12 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 12, 2005 Idris Samawi Hamid wrote:

 This is a known bug-) Try declaring indentation twice,

 \setupindenting[medium,next]
 \setupindenting[medium,next]

 It worked 4 me-)

Bingo!

(And keep your hopes up, I'm steadly heading towards the end
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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Need more documentation on tables

2005-09-12 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 12, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Ok, even with the wiki and all the manuals around (which are
getting obsolete, too) there is definitely too little
documentation on the various tabulation formats.

The biggest problem is that each table type has its ability,
but there is nothing that can do everything.

Simplest example, I'm currently having a problem using a
start/stoptabulate (which I need because \RC  friends don't
work in start/stoptable) but I don't know how to span
multiple columns (which can be done in start/stoptable with
\use, which doesn't work in start/stoptabulate)

What am I supposed to do?
  

 maybe bTABLE cum suis 

No, table is actually all right. I seem to have met a bug,
though. The key c doesn't seem to work in a \ReFormat

\placetable[here][approx-1-0.11269]{Results for curve 1, radius 0.11269}
{\tfxx
\starttable[|l|l|r|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|]
\HL
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Method}%
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Options}%
\NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Iterations}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error\%}%
\NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{$L^2$}%
\SR
\HL
\NC Kinch\NC \NC 0\NC 0\NC 01891\NC 16\NC 7785\NC 0\NC 00761\%\NC\AR
\NC Legendre\NC direct, 2 samples\NC 8\NC 0\NC 01468\NC 13\NC 02819\NC 0\NC 
0074\%\NC\AR
\NC Legendre\NC Kinch, 2 samples\NC 8\NC 0\NC 01468\NC 13\NC 02819\NC 0\NC 
0074\%\NC\AR
\HL
\stoptable
\par
}

Am I supposed to be using a terminator different from \SR?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Switching to smaller font more thoroughly

2005-09-12 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 12, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:



 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 
 
   \placetable[here][tables]{Caption}{
  \switchtobodyfont[5pt]
  etc.
   }
 
 
 It doesn't work either way.

 Do you have an example?

See the example I just posted in the Need more
documentation on tables thread.

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[NTG-context] No small caps?

2005-09-12 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
I have Palatino as main font set up with

\usetypescript[adobekb][8r]
\loadmapfile[context-base]
\usetypescript[palatino][8r]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]
\switchtobodyfont[12pt]

Plus I have

\setupcapitals[sc=yes]
\definestartstop[abstract]
[before={\sc Abstract.\hskip1em}]


But

\starttext
\startabstract
In this article we will analyze a few techniques that can be
used to approximate, by means of Bézier cubics, envelopes of
circles centered on Bézier cubics. Such an approximation is
useful, if not necessary, in several applications in many
branches of computer graphics, ranging from CAD to outline
font conversions.
\stopabstract
\stoptext

does not give me Abstract in small caps.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Switching to smaller font more thoroughly

2005-09-12 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 12, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Monday, September 12, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

\setuptables[bodyfont=small]
\setuptabulate[bodyfont=small]

the reason is that spacing depends on the bodyfont size
so it need to be controlled somehow

What if want it for only some of the tables?
  

 \placetable
   {some clever things}
   {\setuptable[...]
\starttable}


The math still comes up full-sized, though. Could be an
unexpected interaction with the nath package ...

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] No small caps?

2005-09-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 12, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:


 The corrected input is:

\usetypescript[adobekb][ec]
\definefontsynonym [ec-uplr8a-capitalized-800]
   [pplrc8t]  [encoding=ec]
\loadmapfile[context-base]
\usetypescript[palatino][ec]
\setupbodyfont[palatino,rm,12pt]
\switchtobodyfont[12pt]

I made a similar fix for 8r. I also had to install the fpls
package (SC and OsF for URW Palladio) ... and now pdfetex
1.21a produces a flaky pdf! (xref table at the end is
incomplete)

I'll tru to debug the problem ...

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[NTG-context] Bold BibTeX refs in text?

2005-09-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
This is my bibliography set up

\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database={mrabbrev,bezier}]
\setuppublications[numbering=yes,
   sorttype=cite,
   numbercommand=\bracketed,
   refcommand=num]

I would have liked the in-text bibtex refs to come out in
bold, so I tried:

\setupcite[num][before={\start\bf},after={\stop}]

but this isn't working. I'm pretty sure I'm missing
something obvious here ...

While we're at it, the reference compression method is a
little too aggressive: I have a \cite[onething,another] and
it gives me [1--2] in text ... in this case [1,2] would be
better, IMO. Compression is good if you have three or more
consecutive refs.

BTW, how do I add the whole database to the reference list?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Bold BibTeX refs in text?

2005-09-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 Mojca Miklavec wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 I would have liked the in-text bibtex refs to come out in
 bold, so I tried:
 
 \setupcite[num][before={\start\bf},after={\stop}]

 \setupcite[num][left={[\start\bf},right={\stop]}]

Aha! Left and right, not before and after.

 BTW, how do I add the whole database to the reference list?

 Do you mean \setuppublications[criterium=all] (to print all the
 publications in the database, even the uncited ones) or perhaps
 \setupbibtex[database=filename]?

criterium=all, thanks.

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[NTG-context] [BIB] Extra space before surname

2005-09-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello,

I just noticed that there is an extra space before the
surname if there is no von part.

My setup:

\def\bracketed#1{[#1]}

\usemodule[bib]
\setupbibtex[database={mrabbrev,bezier}]
\setuppublications[numbering=yes,
   sorttype=cite,
   criterium=all,
   numbercommand=\bracketed,
   refcommand=num]
\setupcite[num][left={\start\bf[},right={]\stop}]


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Re[2]: [NTG-context] [BIB] Extra space before surname

2005-09-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:



 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 Hello,
 
 I just noticed that there is an extra space before the
 surname if there is no von part.

 Sounds like a familiar bug. Please try this (and let me
 know if it works or not):

\usemodule[bib]
%
% next 3 lines hopefully fix a bug
%
\let\bibdoif  \doifnotemptyvalue
\let\bibdoifnot   \doifemptyvalue
\def\bibdoifelse#1#2#3{\doifemptyvalueelse{#1}{#3}{#2}}

Looks like something else is needed:

title   : - \headtext {pubs}
(./bez-art.tuo
! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again 
   \penalty 
\nonbreakablespace -\penalty 
  \!!tenthousand \ 
argument P.~
  E.
\bibdoif #1-[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ifx \csname #1
 \endcsname \empty \expandafter \gobbleonear...

\invertedshortauthor ...c!juniorsep }\bibdoif {#4}
  {#4\unskip }
\@@ar@@1 ...author\the \scratchcounter \endcsname 
  \ifnum \etallimitcounter ...
...
l.105 ...ion {bezier93}}{2::0:0:9:0:0:0:0::20}{20}
  


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Re[2]: [NTG-context] [BIB] Extra space before surname

2005-09-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

   \def\invertedshortauthor#1#2#3#4#5%
{\doifnotempty{#2}{#2\bibalternative\c!vonsep}%
 #3\bibalternative\c!surnamesep
 \doifnotempty{#5}{#5\bibalternative\c!juniorsep}%
 \doifnotempty{#4}{#4\unskip}}


No luck ...

subject : - \headtext {pubs}
(./bez-art.tuo
! Missing \endcsname inserted.
to be read again 
   \vtop 
\bottomaccent #1#2#3#4#5-\dontleavehmode \vtop 
{\forgetall \baselineskip \z...

\dohandleaccent ...acterencoding #1\endcsname {#2}
  \fi \fi \fi 
\invertedshortauthor ...nsep}#3\bibalternative \c 
  !surnamesep \doifnotempty ...

\@@ar@@1 ...author\the \scratchcounter \endcsname 
  \ifnum \etallimitcounter ...

\redoloop -\expandrecursecontent 
  \endofloop 
...
l.159 ...ion {bezier93}}{2::0:0:7:1:0:0:0::25}{25}


 (we slowly are getting to the point where it is easier on you to
   send me the actual document and a list of errors in t-bib :))

Can do that, if you want :)

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] [BIB] Extra space before surname

2005-09-13 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 oh, I'm sorry. Wrap the definition in \unprotect ... \protect,
 please.

Bingo.

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Re[3]: [NTG-context] Need more documentation on tables

2005-09-15 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 12, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 No, table is actually all right. I seem to have met a bug,
 though. The key c doesn't seem to work in a \ReFormat

 \placetable[here][approx-1-0.11269]{Results for curve 1, radius 0.11269}
 {\tfxx
 \starttable[|l|l|r|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|ra.o0|l|]
 \HL
 \NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Method}%
 \NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Options}%
 \NC\ReFormat[Bc]{Iterations}%
 \NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error}%
 \NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{Error\%}%
 \NC\use2\ReFormat[Bc]{$L^2$}%
 \SR
 \HL
 \NC Kinch\NC \NC 0\NC 0\NC 01891\NC 16\NC 7785\NC 0\NC 00761\%\NC\AR
 \NC Legendre\NC direct, 2 samples\NC 8\NC 0\NC 01468\NC
 13\NC 02819\NC 0\NC 0074\%\NC\AR
 \NC Legendre\NC Kinch, 2 samples\NC 8\NC 0\NC 01468\NC
 13\NC 02819\NC 0\NC 0074\%\NC\AR
 \HL
 \stoptable
 \par
 }

 Am I supposed to be using a terminator different from \SR?


Any news on this? I really need it for my thesis ...

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[NTG-context] Including images in included files in subdirectory

2005-09-16 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Situation:

Tree structure:

main.tex
subdir/inc.tex
subdir/fig.1

in main .tex


\include subdir/inc.tex


in subdir/inc.tex


\externalfigure[fig.1]


texexecing main.tex doesn't find the figure fig.1

subdir/inc.tex must use


\externalfigure[subdir/fig.1]


for the figure to be found.

IMO this is a bug. Image should be checked for existence
using as base the directory of the current input file
*first*, then in the others.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Need more documentation on tables

2005-09-16 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, September 15, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 \def\!tfReFormat#1%
   {\the \!taLeftGlue
   
 \vbox{\forgetall\ialign{\span\the\!taDataColumnTemplate\cr#1\cr}}%
\the \!taRightGlue
\kern\zeropoint} % prevents \unskip

 put this in cont-new.tex (or core-tab.tex); it replaces a thrd-tab macro.

And it works, thank you very much.

Now to find a way to have 100 floats hanging around without
killing TeX ...

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Including images in included files in subdirectory

2005-09-16 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, September 16, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 I agree with Willi and Wolfgang's remarks, but I also agree with
 Giuseppe that the behaviour is a bit weird. Assuming context
 will not be changed, something about this should be written
 down somewhere (in manual or Wiki).


Good point. It's all right if it's WAD (Working As
Designed), but it would be less surprising if it was
documented :)

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[NTG-context] A side by side float that takes advantage of the margin

2005-09-16 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
I have a situation when I have to put side by side two
floats (a table and figure). My current code is

\placetable[here][label]{caption}%
{\\placesidebyside
{table code}{figure code}
}

The problem is that sometimes the combined width of table
and figure is bigger than the textwidth. I would like the
combo to be centered across the page, not starting from the
left margin of the text and invading the right margin only.

How can I achieve this?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] A side by side float that takes advantage of the margin

2005-09-16 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, September 16, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:



 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 I have a situation when I have to put side by side two
 floats (a table and figure). My current code is
 
 \placetable[here][label]{caption}%
 {\\placesidebyside
 {table code}{figure code}
 }

 Have you tried \centerline  (may not work)?

   \placetable[here][label]{caption}%
 {\centerline{\placesidebyside{table code}{figure code}}}

It works, but it needs a \scantokens inside the centerline
because of the active stuff in the tables setups.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] lilypond inclusion + pdf crop (getting off-topic)

2005-09-17 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, September 16, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Adam Lindsay wrote:


This cuts very close to my day job, yet I never would have imagined
ConTeXt could enable this for people...
  

 wait till you see what a lua enhancec context can do (playing with it
 now) -)

Perl, Ruby, Lua ... what next?

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[NTG-context] Complex layout question

2005-09-17 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hi all, I have a LARGE (we're talking about the hundred
scale) number of floats I would like to distribute across a
document. These are paired (a table and a figure). The
layout that results from coupling them side by side doesn't
satisfy me, so I was looking for a different approach. I
would like them to be distributed across the pages by
placing the tables at the top left and the figure at the
bottom right, text flowing around them. Since there is a
very large number of floats, I would like this placement to
be automatic: From now on, do this until you run out of
text/floats

I already did something like the following

\newcount\curvenum
\global\curvenum=1
\def\newpar{
\oldpar
\glet\par\oldpar
\input tests/curves-\the\curvenum.tex
\global\advance\curvenum1
\ifnum\curvenum8\let\par\newpar\fi
}
\let\oldpar\par
\let\par\newpar

to delay-load floats, since loading them all at once fills
up the main memory. But how to achieve the layout?

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[NTG-context] Top-aligned startcombination?

2005-09-18 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
I have \start/\stopcombinations where the elements in a row
have different heights, and the combinations bottom-align
them. Is there a way to top-align them?

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[NTG-context] No math font???

2005-09-18 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Strange ... this simple document

\starttext
\startformula
a^2+b^2 = 1
\stopformula
\stoptext

says the formula had to be deleted for lack of symbol fonts
... do I have a flaky installation?

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Re: [NTG-context] No math font???

2005-09-18 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, September 18, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Strange ... this simple document

 \starttext
 \startformula
 a^2+b^2 = 1
 \stopformula
 \stoptext

 says the formula had to be deleted for lack of symbol fonts
 ... do I have a flaky installation?

Bah. Forget this, I forgot I was set up to not preload
fonts.

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Re[3]: [NTG-context] Switching to smaller font more thoroughly

2005-09-18 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Tuesday, September 13, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Monday, September 12, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Monday, September 12, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

\setuptables[bodyfont=small]
\setuptabulate[bodyfont=small]

the reason is that spacing depends on the bodyfont size
so it need to be controlled somehow

What if want it for only some of the tables?
  

 \placetable
   {some clever things}
   {\setuptable[...]
\starttable}


 The math still comes up full-sized, though. Could be an
 unexpected interaction with the nath package ...


No, it was because I had disabled \preloadfonts.
Interesting. Is this intentional or unintended? It would
seem that without preloadfonts math never gets properly
initialized.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] lilypond inclusion + pdf crop (getting off-topic)

2005-09-18 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, September 18, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Perl, Ruby, Lua ... what next?
  

 megapost (by Giuseppe Bilotta) 
 lualeph  (by Giuseppe Bilotta) 

 i'm told that he will start with that when he finished his thesis -)

Who's this nutcase? ;)

Seriously, as long as it keeps being hobbistic, I'd better
stick to a single project at a time :)

 (btw, could you do your thesis work without megapost? i
 thought that it was a prerequisite) 

No, my thesis only deals with the theory behind Kinch's
method to convert fonts, and how it can be improved.
Megapost would only fit the scene because it could be
possible to implement such conversion directly in it,
whereas metapost doesn't have enough precision.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Complex layout question

2005-09-19 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, September 18, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Hi all, I have a LARGE (we're talking about the hundred
scale) number of floats I would like to distribute across a
document. These are paired (a table and a figure). The
layout that results from coupling them side by side doesn't
satisfy me, so I was looking for a different approach. I
would like them to be distributed across the pages by
placing the tables at the top left and the figure at the
bottom right, text flowing around them. Since there is a
very large number of floats, I would like this placement to
be automatic: From now on, do this until you run out of
text/floats
  

 the text flowing around is is beyond current tex (fyi:
 this is one of the things we hav ein mind with the lua
 extensions combined with karl skoupy's arbitary par shape
 handling; too long term for your thesis) 

Actually, these urgent matters are for an article which
deals with the main topic of the thesis, but the thesis will
have to be ready in a couple of months at most so it's still
too close :)

 so, let's see what other options are there. 

 - side by side is still an option: move them partially
 into the outer margins (details.pdf shows how to do this) 

 - put two/three of them per page, using the postponing
 mechanism, that way you probably don't run into memory
 problems 

 - or use a very narrow layout (wide page) and put all graphic in the margin 
 area

 (i can help with setting up those layouts if needed) 

I went for the side-by-side option, using
\start/stopcombinations because \placesidebyside put the
figure and table too close together.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Top-aligned startcombination?

2005-09-19 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Monday, September 19, 2005 Wolfgang Zillig wrote:

 Perhaps this exaple helps (fron cont-eni.pdf, p254). Here it is done
 with a test in a box, but should be possible with figures as well.

 Wolfgang

 \setupframed[width=.2\hsize,height=3cm,align=middle]
 \startcombination[4]
 {\framed[bottom=\vss,top=\vss]{just\\in the\\middle}}
 {\type{top=\vss}\crlf\type{bottom=\vss}}
 {\framed[bottom=\vss,top=] {just\\in the\\middle}}
 {\type{top=} \crlf\type{bottom=\vss}}
 {\framed[bottom=,top=\vss] {just\\in the\\middle}}
 {\type{top=\vss}\crlf\type{top=}}
 {\framed[bottom=,top=] {just\\in the\\middle}}
 {\type{top=} \crlf\type{bottom=}}
 \stopcombination

I had tried putting a \vfill after the table, but it wasn't
working ...

Anyway, I'm thinking that in my case I probably need to
define my own combination.

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Re: [NTG-context] Re: Need more documentation on tables

2005-09-19 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, September 15, 2005 Patrick Gundlach wrote:


 [...]

 Should I write some documentation about TaBlE preambles and
 commands (for the Wiki), 

 Giuseppe, please do so.

Done

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Table

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Re: [NTG-context] Bold next table row?

2005-09-19 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, September 18, 2005 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

 Is there a way to enforce the next table row (in
 \starttable...\stoptable) to be in bold?

 I know I can change the color with \\CL[color] ...

Anybody knows if this is possible or not?

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[NTG-context] Block of text with natrual width but right-aligned

2005-09-22 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
I have a few lines that I need to push towards the right
maring. The lines should all have their natural width, and
be all left-aligned to the left of the block, but the block
itself should be right aligned. Like the following

  First line of text   |
  Second line of text  |
  One more line of text|


How do I achieve this?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Block of text with natrual width but right-aligned

2005-09-22 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Thursday, September 22, 2005 Adam Lindsay wrote:

 Talking to myself...

 Adam Lindsay said this at Thu, 22 Sep 2005 11:22:18 +0100:

(I played with location= in \framedtext, but it didn't have the results
I expected.)
 (Silly mistake...)

 \defineframedtext[Giuseppe]
 [align=raggedright,width=fit,offset=0pt,
  frame=off,location=right]

 \startGiuseppe
 One line\\
 Two lines\\
 And a couple more
 \stopGiuseppe
 \input ward \par
 \startGiuseppe
 Here is\\
 another short text to demonstrate things.
 \stopGiuseppe

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[NTG-context] bib module: support \noopsort

2005-10-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello Taco,

would it be possible for your module to support the
\noopsort command you can find in some .bib files?
Basically, a key like

key = {\noopsort{value1}}value2

will print as value2 but be sorted under value1 (details in
the bibtex references?

For the time being I'm just putting a \let\noopsort\relax in
my document.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] bib module: support \noopsort

2005-10-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Friday, October 7, 2005 Taco Hoekwater wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:
 Hello Taco,
 
 would it be possible for your module to support the
 \noopsort command you can find in some .bib files?

 Sure, will do (new beta later today).

THanks.

 For the time being I'm just putting a \let\noopsort\relax in
 my document.

 That's wrong, I think. Should be \def\noopsort#1{}, yes?

Yes, of course.

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[NTG-context] Automatic next indent

2005-10-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all, and Hans in particular:

Some time ago

http://www.mail-archive.com/ntg-context@ref.ntg.nl/msg01744.html

I had proposed a patch that added the auto value to
some commmon indentnext options. I would *really* this to be
taken into consideration.

Rationale: things like formulas, itemgroups and the like
(basically, everything that allows indentnext) are
displays. Displays are parts of the document that are
embedded in a paragraph but are put in display by
appropriate indenting  other tricks. Now, there are cases
in which the paragraph continues after the display, and
cases when it doesn't.

So for example


Some text in a paragraph, plus other text,
still in the same paragraph
   and a displayed thing
and a continuation of the same paragraph
with some more text and other text


would be different from


Some text in a paragraph, plus other text,
still in the same paragraph
   and a displayed thing

In a separate pragraph, we have some other text


Note that the two cases should be handled separately: in the
first case, I *don't* want any indentation nor any blank
line; in the second case, I might want either or both.

indentnext=auto would NOT put an indent in cases like this:


some paragraph
\startdisplayedmaterial
displayed stuff (formula or itemgroup or anything else)
\stopdisplayedmaterial
still same paragraph


but WOULD put an indent here


some paragraph
\startdisplayedmaterial
displayed stuff (formula or itemgroup or anything else)
\stopdisplayedmaterial

Different paragraph


Hans, can you please consider it for inclusion? The patch is
somewhat out of date, given the age, but the principle
should be obvious.

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[NTG-context] Smart \in

2005-10-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all,

I have a document which is split into separate \parts. I
would like the \in command ( friends) to automatically add
the part reference when cross-referencing across parts.

Example:



\part[part:one]{Part one}

\chapter[ch:one]{Chapter one}

\chapter[ch:two]{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]

\part[part:two]{Part two}

\chater[ch:2-1]{Chapter two}

As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]


The first \in would say chapter~1, the second chapter~1,
part~1.

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[NTG-context] \setupregister - \setupindex

2005-10-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
I just noticed that \setupindex is not exactly the same as
\setupregister[index]; indeed, \setupindex does not allow
the syntax

\setupindex[form][options=values]

whereas

\setupregister[index][form][options=values]

is valid.

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[NTG-context] A particular form of index (register) coupling

2005-10-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello,

I have a register where all the entries appear once (and
only once) in a particular form (\index[def::]{entry}) but can appear any
number of times in the standard form (\index{entry}).

I would like the particular coupling to make all standard
form entries clickable and linking to the one and only
\index[def::]{entry}.

This could be of course generalized to some kind of
couplingcommand=\command#1#2 that is user-defineable ...

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[NTG-context] bib module: interaction (wish)

2005-10-07 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Hello all, and Taco in particular,

I'm a great fan of interaction, and I was wondering about
what kind of interaction the BibTeX module could support.

I'm thinking of two of them in particular. One of them is
the obvious link to list of references on click. However,
I'm also a great fan of balloons, so I was thinking of
something like a popup-on-hover showing the full reference,
thus sparing the need to go back-and-forth through the
document. (Can these things  be optimized so that the popup
is only stored once in the PDF?)

A potential problem would be with compressed citations, but
I guess that in this case making only the displayed numbers
active is the right solution.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Smart \in

2005-10-09 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Saturday, October 8, 2005 Hans Hagen wrote:

 Giuseppe Bilotta wrote:

Hello all,

I have a document which is split into separate \parts. I
would like the \in command ( friends) to automatically add
the part reference when cross-referencing across parts.

Example:



\part[part:one]{Part one}

\chapter[ch:one]{Chapter one}

\chapter[ch:two]{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]

\part[part:two]{Part two}

\chater[ch:2-1]{Chapter two}

As seen in \in chapter[ch:one]


The first \in would say chapter~1, the second chapter~1,
part~1.

  

 \setuphead[part][prefix=part]
 \setuphead[chapter][prefix=ch]

 \setuphead[chapter]prefix=+] % kind of automatic

 (actually, prefixes are blabla::whatever deep down in context)


Looks like I didn't make myself clear. I don't want the
label prefix to be automatic.

I want the reference to automatically add part ... (in the
text) when the current part is different from the part of
the referenced thing.

I see that the example was too verbose to be minimal
enough. Second go:


\starttext
\part{Part one}
\chapter[interest]{Chapter one}
\chapter{Chapter two}
As seen in \in chapter[interest]
\part{Part two}
\chapter{Chapter one of part two}
\chapter{Chapter two of part two}
As seen in \in chapter[interest]
\stoptext


If you compile this example, you'll see that both \in's
print the same output, but the second one is referring to
chapter 2 in part 1, and this is not clear (it seems it's
referring to chapter 1 in the same part), so it should add
, part 1 to make it clear.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Vowels with accent (teTeX - Linux)

2005-10-09 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, October 9, 2005 Jilani Khaldi wrote:

 \mainlanguage[italian]
 \setupbodyfont[12pt]
 \setuppapersize[A4]

\enableregime[il1] % il = iso-latin-1; change it
% based on the encoding you use in your editor

 \starttext
 perché, sarà, così, totò, più
 \stoptext

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[NTG-context] Please add Fraktur to the math fonts

2005-10-27 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
The Fraktur fonts are missing from the standard math
definitions. Currently, I have this kind of hack in t-amsl:

\definebodyfont [17.3pt,14.4pt,12pt,11pt,10pt,9pt] [mm] [mc=eufm10 sa 1]
\definebodyfont [8pt,7pt,6pt]  [mm] [mc=eufm7 sa 1]
\definebodyfont [5pt]  [mm] [mc=eufm5]

Basically, for what I can see, the problem is that mc= is
not defined in the default typescript files. Adding it would
be as simple as replicating the mi lines into mc lines, at
least for computer-modern  similar, since the actual font
used is the same.

Could this please be done for the official distribution?

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[NTG-context] Par break/justification problem

2005-10-27 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
I have a paragraph that is formed by two parts: these are
normally run together, except when the last line of the
first part ends at less than a certain amount max_amount
from the right margin. In this case, there should a
'seamless line break', i.e. a line break with the text still
fully justified to the right margin.

Example:

First part of the paragraph: second part is
run in and then the text continues.

Second example:

This is still the first part of the pagrah:
second part will now be put on the next line
but the last line of the first part should
be fully justified.

What kind of hskip/penalty/whatever combo should I put
between the first and last part for this to happen?

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Re: [NTG-context] Insufficient symbol fonts error

2005-10-30 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, October 30, 2005 Alan Bowen wrote:

 I am getting some puzzling errors when I try to use the Greek fonts
 in math formulae (to represent Greek numerals as written in mss.)

 In a short file, both
 \overbar{\grk{kj}} and
 $\overline{\hbox{\grk{kj}}}$
 work as expected, even when they occur in Greek text.

 But in a long, complicated file with lots of Greek etc. and  the same
 environment file, I get

 ! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.

Are you using the amsl or nath modules?

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Insufficient symbol fonts error

2005-10-30 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, October 30, 2005 Alan Bowen wrote:

 Giuseppe—

 I am not using either the amsl or the nath modules. Never had to
 before. (The file has compiled successfully in its current form, but
 that was about a week ago.)

 If I should be using one of these modules, which do you recommend?

Sorry, I wasn't suggesting you should use these modules :)
On the contrary, I just recently found a bug in them that gave an
error similar to the one you found, when using point sizes
over 12. Since I knew the fix for that I was hoping it was
your problem, but sadly it isn't.

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Re[2]: [NTG-context] Insufficient symbol fonts error

2005-10-30 Thread Giuseppe Bilotta
Sunday, October 30, 2005 Alan Bowen wrote:

 Giuseppe—

 I inserted
 \usemodule[t-amsl]
 into the preamble and got the same error message:
  ! Math formula deleted: Insufficient symbol fonts.

 But, when I inserted
 \usemodule[t-nath]
 the error message was
  !TeX capacity exceeded, sorry [input stack size=5000]
 which seems much more promising.

 Assuming that increasing the input stack is possible and desirable,
 how do I do it?

Please disregardi this, and remove the two modules. Since it
seems the 'Missing symbol fonts' problem only happens with a
big document, try the usual 'divide and conquer method':
terminate your document right after the formula that gives
the error, and progressively comment out halves of the
preceding text until you manage to isolate the chunk of text
preceding the formula that generates the error.

Example: say that that from \starttext to \stoptext there
are 300 lines, and that the formula is at the last line.
Then you comment the first 150 lines and see if the error
occurs. If it doesn't happen, you uncomment the first 150
and comment the subsequent 150 (Except for the formula, of
course). This way you can tell which half causes the error.
In the uncommented half that causes the error you repeat the
process (75 lines at a time), then again and again until you
manage to focus around the shortest document that causes the
error.

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