Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
If reporting them means the birds are under constant harassment then yes, they shouldn’t get reported. Guidelines like those promoted by the ABA should mean something. Or they can get reported to groups that can have some control over their memberships. This is in no way a criticism of the Listserve, just recognition of the fact that the Listserve can be viewed by anyone, whether they subscribe or not. Mike Cooper Ridge, NY Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 3:43 PM, ArieGilbert wrote: > > Great. More sightings that wont get reported. > > They're doing this in bkln and upstate. > > Yay. > > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > Original message > From: Mike > Date: 9/27/18 2:25 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Patricia Lindsay > Cc: NYS Birds > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County > > I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see > photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to > them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing > the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. There’s > currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we > some day exceeded that. > The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public > group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. > > Mike Cooper > Ridge > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay > > wrote: > > > > Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two > > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, > > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get > > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and > > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were > > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and > > preen in peace. > > > > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a > > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to > > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first > > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE > > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this > > would not be a pleasant study and left. > > > > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common > > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo > > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other > > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or > > rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another > > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the > > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, > > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the > > birds. > > > > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. > > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up > > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. > > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in > > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so > > constantly. > > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. > > > > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this > > morning by Shai. > > > > Patricia Lindsay > > Bay Shore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > > > ARCHIVES: > > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2)
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
If reporting them means the birds are under constant harassment then yes, they shouldn’t get reported. Guidelines like those promoted by the ABA should mean something. Or they can get reported to groups that can have some control over their memberships. This is in no way a criticism of the Listserve, just recognition of the fact that the Listserve can be viewed by anyone, whether they subscribe or not. Mike Cooper Ridge, NY Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 3:43 PM, ArieGilbert wrote: > > Great. More sightings that wont get reported. > > They're doing this in bkln and upstate. > > Yay. > > > > > Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device > > Original message > From: Mike > Date: 9/27/18 2:25 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: Patricia Lindsay > Cc: NYS Birds > Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County > > I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see > photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to > them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing > the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. There’s > currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we > some day exceeded that. > The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public > group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. > > Mike Cooper > Ridge > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay > > wrote: > > > > Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two > > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, > > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get > > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and > > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were > > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and > > preen in peace. > > > > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a > > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to > > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first > > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE > > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this > > would not be a pleasant study and left. > > > > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common > > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo > > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other > > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or > > rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another > > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the > > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, > > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the > > birds. > > > > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. > > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up > > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. > > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in > > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so > > constantly. > > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. > > > > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this > > morning by Shai. > > > > Patricia Lindsay > > Bay Shore > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > > > ARCHIVES: > > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > > > -- > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2)
[nysbirds-l] Queens County Bird Club Big Sit
The Queens County Bird Club will be having our 5th Annual Big Sit on Saturday, October 13, at the Battery Harris Platform at Fort Tilden, Queens. Some of us will be there pre-dawn and we will continue until it is too dark to bird. If the weather is forecast to be absolutely horrific we will postpone until Sunday, October 14 (and I'll send out an email on Friday evening,10/12). Good birds in past years include Parasitic Jaeger, Great Horned Owl, Red-headed Woodpecker, Philadelphia Vireo, Dickcissel, and Orange-crowned Warbler. Our all time high count is 76 species though we nearly matched that last year with 74. If we get good northwest winds we could end up with quite a show of landbird and raptor migration. So come on out, bring coffee and snacks, stay for fifteen minutes, all day, or for any amount of time in between. Hope to see you there! Good Birding, Corey Finger -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Queens County Bird Club Big Sit
The Queens County Bird Club will be having our 5th Annual Big Sit on Saturday, October 13, at the Battery Harris Platform at Fort Tilden, Queens. Some of us will be there pre-dawn and we will continue until it is too dark to bird. If the weather is forecast to be absolutely horrific we will postpone until Sunday, October 14 (and I'll send out an email on Friday evening,10/12). Good birds in past years include Parasitic Jaeger, Great Horned Owl, Red-headed Woodpecker, Philadelphia Vireo, Dickcissel, and Orange-crowned Warbler. Our all time high count is 76 species though we nearly matched that last year with 74. If we get good northwest winds we could end up with quite a show of landbird and raptor migration. So come on out, bring coffee and snacks, stay for fifteen minutes, all day, or for any amount of time in between. Hope to see you there! Good Birding, Corey Finger -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Some Thoughts on Recent Bird Movements
Hi all, Bob Lewis's report of about seven Lesser Black-backed Gulls at Robert Moses SP yesterday would have caused a sensation just 20 years ago. I vividly recall Pat's and my excitement at finding four LBBGs in one day, including one of the first juveniles ever reliably recorded from Long Island, plus a presumptive hybrid LBBG x HERG, on 12 Oct 2002: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S24431327 https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S27002766 https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S27002767 Flash forward to today, and Bob's count highlights how few LBBGs remained just one day after Tuesday's storm roosts of 61 birds. This illustrates not only how much and how quickly things have changed, but also illuminates the manner in which these birds are occurring most abundantly on Long Island--not primarily as as winter residents, as we used to think, but as passage migrants and summering non-breeders. It was probably just bad luck that Bob found none at all at Jones Beach, where 61 (identical to the count at RMSP!) were present during the storm, but showing a very different age distribution: RMSP 5 juvs, 14 SY, 13 older imms, 28 ads JBWE 2 juvs; 20 SY, 24 older imms, 15 ads Experience has shown that Second-Year and Third-Year birds occur most numerously as summering non-breeders, but also to an unknown extent as migrants, whereas juveniles and adults occur in a more stereotyped fashion as southbound passage migrants: https://www.nybirds.org/KBsearch/y2009v59n4/y2009v59n4p337fogarty.pdf# https://www.nybirds.org/KBsearch/y2011v61n1/y2011v61n1p35-36mitra.pdf# My thought is that the RMSP birds comprised largely migrants, whereas the JBWE flock consisted of a mix of lingering summer birds plus migrants added in. Given these considerations, as well as the recent spate of juvenile northern gulls (Sabine's in Broome, Black-legged Kittiwake in Brooklyn and Suffolk, and Bonaparte's scattered sparsely around), I've been searching parking lots and puddles up and down the shores of Region 10 these past few days, hoping, perhaps, to find a Red-necked Phalarope (only failure so far). With Cackling Goose arriving in Queens on Sunday, Pink-footed Goose in northern NYS on Tuesday, and Ross's Goose in Rhode Island today, there's an strong scent of Greenland and the Arctic in the air. We used to debate whether late October Barnacle Geese were "too" early--apparently not! Shai Mitra Bay Shore -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Some Thoughts on Recent Bird Movements
Hi all, Bob Lewis's report of about seven Lesser Black-backed Gulls at Robert Moses SP yesterday would have caused a sensation just 20 years ago. I vividly recall Pat's and my excitement at finding four LBBGs in one day, including one of the first juveniles ever reliably recorded from Long Island, plus a presumptive hybrid LBBG x HERG, on 12 Oct 2002: https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S24431327 https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S27002766 https://ebird.org/view/checklist/S27002767 Flash forward to today, and Bob's count highlights how few LBBGs remained just one day after Tuesday's storm roosts of 61 birds. This illustrates not only how much and how quickly things have changed, but also illuminates the manner in which these birds are occurring most abundantly on Long Island--not primarily as as winter residents, as we used to think, but as passage migrants and summering non-breeders. It was probably just bad luck that Bob found none at all at Jones Beach, where 61 (identical to the count at RMSP!) were present during the storm, but showing a very different age distribution: RMSP 5 juvs, 14 SY, 13 older imms, 28 ads JBWE 2 juvs; 20 SY, 24 older imms, 15 ads Experience has shown that Second-Year and Third-Year birds occur most numerously as summering non-breeders, but also to an unknown extent as migrants, whereas juveniles and adults occur in a more stereotyped fashion as southbound passage migrants: https://www.nybirds.org/KBsearch/y2009v59n4/y2009v59n4p337fogarty.pdf# https://www.nybirds.org/KBsearch/y2011v61n1/y2011v61n1p35-36mitra.pdf# My thought is that the RMSP birds comprised largely migrants, whereas the JBWE flock consisted of a mix of lingering summer birds plus migrants added in. Given these considerations, as well as the recent spate of juvenile northern gulls (Sabine's in Broome, Black-legged Kittiwake in Brooklyn and Suffolk, and Bonaparte's scattered sparsely around), I've been searching parking lots and puddles up and down the shores of Region 10 these past few days, hoping, perhaps, to find a Red-necked Phalarope (only failure so far). With Cackling Goose arriving in Queens on Sunday, Pink-footed Goose in northern NYS on Tuesday, and Ross's Goose in Rhode Island today, there's an strong scent of Greenland and the Arctic in the air. We used to debate whether late October Barnacle Geese were "too" early--apparently not! Shai Mitra Bay Shore -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Thursday's Blue Jays - 2725
I had another good morning out in the yard today, with a nice diversity of migrants and of course, a lot of Blue Jays. Tuesday was a washout here, but yesterday I had 562 Blue Jays before the rain started around 9:30. This morning was rain-free. I was outside by sunrise (6:57) to mostly clear skies and 44 degrees F with light south winds. The first Blue Jay passed over at 7:10, and by the time I had to leave for a previously scheduled appointment in the late morning, I had totaled 2,725 Jays: 486 between 6:57 and 7:57 748 between 7:57 and 8:57 1172 between 8:57 and 9:57 319 between 9:57 and 10:27. There were plenty of other birds on the move today too. Here is a list of the birds that appeared to be migrating: Canada Goose - 233 Common Loon - 1 Sharp-shinned Hawk - 3 Cooper's Hawk - 1 Red-bellied Woodpecker - 5 Northern Flicker - 1 Blue-headed Vireo - 2 Red-eyed Vireo - 1 American Crow - 6 Common Raven - 2 Black-capped Chickadee - 71 Red-breasted Nuthatch - 4 White-breasted Nuthatch - 9 Brown Creeper - 2 Golden-crowned Kinglet - 2 Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 1 American Robin - 40 Cedar Waxwing - 8 American Goldfinch - 21 White-throated Sparrow - 1 Rusty Blackbird - 5 Magnolia Warbler - 8 Yellow-rumped Warbler - 6 Rose-breasted Grosbeak - 1 Mickey Scilingo Constantia, Oswego County mickey.scili...@gte.net 315-679-6299 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Thursday's Blue Jays - 2725
I had another good morning out in the yard today, with a nice diversity of migrants and of course, a lot of Blue Jays. Tuesday was a washout here, but yesterday I had 562 Blue Jays before the rain started around 9:30. This morning was rain-free. I was outside by sunrise (6:57) to mostly clear skies and 44 degrees F with light south winds. The first Blue Jay passed over at 7:10, and by the time I had to leave for a previously scheduled appointment in the late morning, I had totaled 2,725 Jays: 486 between 6:57 and 7:57 748 between 7:57 and 8:57 1172 between 8:57 and 9:57 319 between 9:57 and 10:27. There were plenty of other birds on the move today too. Here is a list of the birds that appeared to be migrating: Canada Goose - 233 Common Loon - 1 Sharp-shinned Hawk - 3 Cooper's Hawk - 1 Red-bellied Woodpecker - 5 Northern Flicker - 1 Blue-headed Vireo - 2 Red-eyed Vireo - 1 American Crow - 6 Common Raven - 2 Black-capped Chickadee - 71 Red-breasted Nuthatch - 4 White-breasted Nuthatch - 9 Brown Creeper - 2 Golden-crowned Kinglet - 2 Ruby-crowned Kinglet - 1 American Robin - 40 Cedar Waxwing - 8 American Goldfinch - 21 White-throated Sparrow - 1 Rusty Blackbird - 5 Magnolia Warbler - 8 Yellow-rumped Warbler - 6 Rose-breasted Grosbeak - 1 Mickey Scilingo Constantia, Oswego County mickey.scili...@gte.net 315-679-6299 -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. There’s currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we some day exceeded that. The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. Mike Cooper Ridge Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay wrote: > > Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and > preen in peace. > > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this > would not be a pleasant study and left. > > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or > rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the > birds. > > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so > constantly. > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. > > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this > morning by Shai. > > Patricia Lindsay > Bay Shore > > > > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see photographers. I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders. There’s currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we some day exceeded that. The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. Mike Cooper Ridge Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay wrote: > > Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and > preen in peace. > > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this > would not be a pleasant study and left. > > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or > rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the > birds. > > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so > constantly. > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. > > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this > morning by Shai. > > Patricia Lindsay > Bay Shore > > > > > > > > -- > > NYSbirds-L List Info: > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm > http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm > > ARCHIVES: > 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html > 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L > 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 > > Please submit your observations to eBird: > http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ > > -- > -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and preen in peace. I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this would not be a pleasant study and left. I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the birds. PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so constantly. And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this morning by Shai. Patricia Lindsay Bay Shore -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and preen in peace. I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this would not be a pleasant study and left. I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or rest as well. And give other birders a chance to see them! Another birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when the truck, already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the birds. PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance. PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle. Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so constantly. And please have respect for others trying to see the birds. The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this morning by Shai. Patricia Lindsay Bay Shore -- NYSbirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsWELCOME.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsRULES.htm http://www.NortheastBirding.com/NYSbirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/nysbirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/NYSBirds-L 3) http://birding.aba.org/maillist/NY01 Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
