Re: [ob] ADRO mantapp tuh...
The statement of Mr tbumi is partially correct Mr Rei..due to typical of Indonesian investor Cheers, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 4/7/10, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] ADRO mantapp tuh... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 7, 2010, 3:13 PM Harga nominal ratusan rupiah tdk berarti murah pak, kudu lihat PER juga kan... 2010/4/7 Bumi t_b...@yahoo. co.id Sip : tbumi ADRO, BUMI dan INCO masih ada potensial turun. GZCO, NIKL dan UNSP potensial naik masih sangat besar karena fundamentalnya tak kalah dgn emiten ADRO, BUMI DAN INCO. Harga GZCO, NIKL dan UNSP masih di ratusan rupiah sehingga terjangkau oleh setiap pemain. -- Sent from my coal-powered phone.
Re: [ob] PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO, Which one is the best (tebak kapan adro nyusul bumi kita tercinta??)
Or PTBA Price to chase ASII Price? Cheers, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO, Which one is the best (tebak kapan adro nyusul bumi kita tercinta??) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 5:37 PM yes we bought ADRO. go adroo , gila lu ndr mbah kira kira 2 minggu lagi adro nyalip bumi ? --- On Sat, 4/3/10, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Subject: Re: [ob] PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO, Which one is the best To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 11:36 AM Ini buat Invest yah... karena kalo short term sih kita musti liat: - Capitalisasi pasar, berat engga ngangkatnya pada wave 5 ?. Jadi kalo trading sih kita berhubungan dengan TA, Elliott wave dan strategi/taktik BD yg lagi digelar... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ivan ipan...@... wrote: Nah lho mbah sudah berpindah ke laen hati ney... Jatuh cinta ma ADRO nih yee... Sent from my BullBerry® Stupidphone -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:23:36 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO, Which one is the best DATA untuk analisa: - http://www.investda ta.net/QZ94COA6. TXT Didapat data untuk PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO: - Gross margin: 54, 37, 40 PTBA punya selesih harga jual - cost yg terbaik. - Operating profit: 39, 28, 36 ITMG punya laba operasi yg terkecil - Net profit: 30, 22, 16 PTBA bisa menghasilkan laba bersih hampir 2x lebih besar dibanding ADRO (30 vs 16) Tapi perbandingan laba operasi PTBA dan ADRO yg mempengaruhi Valuasi saham tidak terlalu berbeda jauh 39 vs 36, jadi ADRO masih oke. - DER: 0,4 0,5 1,4 ADRO punya ratio Utang yg lebih besar dari competitornya, ini akan memperbesar biaya bunga dan mengurangi ROE. - ROE: 47, 42 dan 25 PTBA is the best, ADRO perlu tambah modal biar ROE nya naik. - PER: 15, 10 dan 14 ITMG termurah dalam skala PER - COP: 11, 8, 6 ADRO termurah dalam skala COP - CLOP: 12, 9 dan 9 ITMG dan ADRO sama murahnya. - Sales Growth: 24, 14, 48 ADRO the best, ITMG the worst - Operating Profit Growth: 42, 28, 135 ADRO is the BEST ABIS, Sale naik 48% tapi laba operasi naik 135%, ini KEREN ABIS !!! Kesimpulan: - ADRO THE BEST... hehehe...
Re: [ob] PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO, Which one is the best (tebak kapan adro nyusul bumi kita tercinta??)
Or PTBA Price to chase ASII Price? Cheers, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sat, 4/3/10, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO, Which one is the best (tebak kapan adro nyusul bumi kita tercinta??) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 5:37 PM yes we bought ADRO. go adroo , gila lu ndr mbah kira kira 2 minggu lagi adro nyalip bumi ? --- On Sat, 4/3/10, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Subject: Re: [ob] PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO, Which one is the best To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Saturday, April 3, 2010, 11:36 AM Ini buat Invest yah... karena kalo short term sih kita musti liat: - Capitalisasi pasar, berat engga ngangkatnya pada wave 5 ?. Jadi kalo trading sih kita berhubungan dengan TA, Elliott wave dan strategi/taktik BD yg lagi digelar... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, ivan ipan...@... wrote: Nah lho mbah sudah berpindah ke laen hati ney... Jatuh cinta ma ADRO nih yee... Sent from my BullBerry® Stupidphone -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:23:36 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO, Which one is the best DATA untuk analisa: - http://www.investda ta.net/QZ94COA6. TXT Didapat data untuk PTBA, ITMG dan ADRO: - Gross margin: 54, 37, 40 PTBA punya selesih harga jual - cost yg terbaik. - Operating profit: 39, 28, 36 ITMG punya laba operasi yg terkecil - Net profit: 30, 22, 16 PTBA bisa menghasilkan laba bersih hampir 2x lebih besar dibanding ADRO (30 vs 16) Tapi perbandingan laba operasi PTBA dan ADRO yg mempengaruhi Valuasi saham tidak terlalu berbeda jauh 39 vs 36, jadi ADRO masih oke. - DER: 0,4 0,5 1,4 ADRO punya ratio Utang yg lebih besar dari competitornya, ini akan memperbesar biaya bunga dan mengurangi ROE. - ROE: 47, 42 dan 25 PTBA is the best, ADRO perlu tambah modal biar ROE nya naik. - PER: 15, 10 dan 14 ITMG termurah dalam skala PER - COP: 11, 8, 6 ADRO termurah dalam skala COP - CLOP: 12, 9 dan 9 ITMG dan ADRO sama murahnya. - Sales Growth: 24, 14, 48 ADRO the best, ITMG the worst - Operating Profit Growth: 42, 28, 135 ADRO is the BEST ABIS, Sale naik 48% tapi laba operasi naik 135%, ini KEREN ABIS !!! Kesimpulan: - ADRO THE BEST... hehehe...
Re: [ob] BUMI -, ADRO, PTBA, ITMG +
Hi Billy You just like one of my friends, always use this phrase Tanyain Gw Donk..haha Cheers, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 11/23/09, billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com wrote: From: billy_budiman92 billybudima...@gmail.com Subject: [ob] BUMI -, ADRO, PTBA, ITMG + To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 23, 2009, 10:46 AM tanya kenapa ? Embah ada view ?
Re: [ob] TAL mining global
Lower USD turn into GOLD rally which will drive UP the OIL. (2007 Case) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 9/8/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: [ob] TAL mining global To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 4:12 PM TAL mining global http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi.png - Apakah pasar lari ke commodity ? atau - Commodity diangkat untuk menutupi efek AIG China dan kejatuhan USD ?
Re: [ob] Re: Index SSEC -3.09%
They are just simply RIDICULOUS... Comments by a top Chinese leader Monday seemed to say Beijing plans to stick by its easy monetary policy for the foreseeable future, in light of uncertainties over the pace of recovery Easy monetary policy is the one of tools for recovery. The latest problem in SSEC was tightening in credit market. Now easy monetary for the foreseeable future means that there will be soft loan for everyone. The ONLY trade off for this is INFLATION. So FUNNY! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 8/25/09, t_bumi t_b...@yahoo.co.id wrote: From: t_bumi t_b...@yahoo.co.id Subject: [ob] Re: Index SSEC -3.09% To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 25, 2009, 6:28 AM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bozz Trader powerman.trader@ ... wrote: Jam segini index Shanghai sudah minus berdara dara mungkin ada yg bisa kasih koment ada apa yah Mbah ? BT Sip : tbumi http://www.cnbc. com/id/32545804
Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade?
At least, keep your stocks until Wednesday because Thursday will tell you bout something or could be everything. Best regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Wong Cilik gajahpelan...@gmail.com wrote: From: Wong Cilik gajahpelan...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:55 AM Thanks 2009/8/23 SyIFA Fund syifa.f...@yahoo. com
Re: [ob] ASII in the position to trade?
And more... SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 8/24/09, I_R_G_7_I ruzli...@gmail.com wrote: From: I_R_G_7_I ruzli...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] ASII in the position to trade? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 6:27 AM GDP US On 24/08/2009, paramanandana@ yahoo.com paramanandana@ yahoo.com wrote: What will be the triger of that something? Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: SyIFA Fund syifa.f...@yahoo. com Date: Sun, 23 Aug 2009 23:06:29 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? At least, keep your stocks until Wednesday because Thursday will tell you bout something or could be everything. Best regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 8/24/09, Wong Cilik gajahpelanduk@ gmail.com wrote: From: Wong Cilik gajahpelanduk@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, August 24, 2009, 5:55 AM Thanks 2009/8/23 SyIFA Fund syifa.fund@ yahoo. com -- Sent from my mobile device
Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade?
Why should be oil? Before and at the time of CRISIS, OIL had been blamed to be the CRISIS catalyst. But NOW the OIL position has been changed by speculators, where OIL price is monitoring to be the reason for RECOVERY. So hike up in OIL price can be looked as Recovery is starting to begin. Remember about my comment about OIL long long time ago. It won't reach below US$35 and my estimation that they will stay around US$75 - US$80 at the end of the year (conservative). Too many factors to be played with in OIL analysis. And remember that August won't be the JUDGEMENT month, September will do! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 8:29 AM Tapi kalo harga minyak naik/turun banyak overnight hanya krn berita ekonomi yg encouraging/ discouraging, bukankah itu hanya spekulasi Mbah?... 2009/8/23 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Jika harga minyak jatuh dibawah cost untuk suatu sumur, logikanya sumur itu ditutup. Dan sebaliknya jika harga minyak naik lagi diatas costnya maka suatu sumur yg sudah di abandon akan dioperasionalkan lagi. Ketika harga minyak jatuh dibawah 40 dollar otomatis jumlah rig berkurang. Sebaliknya jika harga minyak mulai tinggi lagi seperti sekarang maka jumlah rig yg dibutuhkan bertambah lagi. Pertambahan jumlah rig tentunya suatu investasi karena rig itu mahal biayanya tapi ini belum menjawab apakah harga minyak saat ini Demand Driven atau cuman permainan harga di bursa saja. Otoritas pun sebenarnya sudah tahu bahwa harga minyak itu merupakah ajang spekulasi dan permainan, ini yg membuat otoritas membuat aturan untuk meredam spekulasi harga minyak yg akan segera berlaku. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, TimurLaut i4...@... wrote: Total rig counts (Baker Hughes) di US turun drastis dari 1553 pada jan 2009 menjadi 895 rigs pada june 2009. Sejak june 2009, total rig counts di US naik dan terakhir 21 Aug 2009 naik 17 rigs dari 14 Aug 2009. Terlampir adalah US rig counts sejak tahun 2000. Silahkan interpretasi sendiri apakah kenaikan harga minyak ini merupakan fundamental driven atau speculative driven. Kalau menurut saya, jumlah rig counts adalah representasi dari tingkat kepercayaan perusahaan minyak atas naik harga minyak, jika mereka percaya bahwa naiknya harga minyak adalah spekulatif, then rig counts tidak akan naik. Data lengkapnya bisa dilihat di; http://investor. shareholder. com/bhi/rig_ counts/rc_ index.cfm btw, skrg ini berhubung hurricane season di Gulf of Mexico, maka meningkatnya harga minyak bisa saja merupakan spekulasi andai terjadi kerusakan fasilitas akibat hurricane. -TL _ _ __ From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:43:44 PM Subject: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? Embah sih bukan ahli harga minyak, jadi cuman bisa jadi PENGAMAT doang... Tapi ini dari sejarah: - Dulu minyak topnya sampai mencapai 145 atau 147, lupa euy... - Ketika minyak lagi bergerak dari 100 ke 145, para BD commodity cuci gudang pelan pelan, dan ketika udah sampai 145, harga minyak dibuat CRASH. Saat ini minyak 73,8, apakah ini FUNDAMENTAL DRIVEN atau SPECULATIVE DRIVEN seperti awal crash 2008, embah ENGGA TAHU, ada yg bisa bantu jawab ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, YUTA yuta.tiziano@ ... wrote: Embah. Saya tidak ngerti TA, mungkin saja minyak akan naik sampai USD 77-78 sebelum koreksi lagi. Tetapi dari segi fundamental, sepertinya harga sekarang overshoot. Alasannya: - mesin2 pabrik belum full swing karena demand yg masih lemah dan lay off yg masih berlanjut - efisiensi terus menerus akan menekan pemakaian operational cost (minyak) - mobil hemat bahan bakar terus diluncurkan - ratusan kapal masih unemployeed dan idle di beberapa ports besar - BDI yang masih terus koreksi -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2009 15:08:07 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? Grafik minyaknya ada koreksi: http://metalprices. com/PubCharts/ PublicCharts. aspx?metal= cl%20nymex type\ =Cweight=LB days=3size= Mbg=cs= 1cid=0 http://metalprices. com/PubCharts/ PublicCharts. aspx?metal= cl%20nymex typ\ e=Cweight=LB days=3size= Mbg=cs= 1cid=0
Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade?
Sorry for my late response Wong Cilik...Here you are! Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching: JUDGEMENT MONTH Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:43 AM From: SyIFA Fund syifa.f...@yahoo.comAdd sender to Contacts To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Great RUN is always followed by Correction (if do not want to mention FALL): - September is the worst month empirically, BUT different conditions may apply either (maybe this year's September can be the BLACK SWAN) - Market has been UP more than 50%. (there can be a limited UP) - Some executives in BIG companies has realized their profits through insider selling (nothing that acknowledged to be worsen than THIS one) - Keeping interest rates low v.s increasing interest rates; always a trade off works there (Central Bank focus on what purpose?) - Production cost is rising while no boost up in price, unemployment continue to hit new record, deleveraging consumers, etc. So, September will be the JUDGEMENT MONTH for all of us, not the August one! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Wong Cilik gajahpelan...@gmail.com wrote: From: Wong Cilik gajahpelan...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 11:21 AM What do you mean with judgment month? Is it the very risky month, a downturn month, or just a junction month to see whether economy goes up or down? Or just that a junction month for Oil alone, not the economy as a whole? Thanks for your insight. 2009/8/22 SyIFA Fund syifa.f...@yahoo. com Why should be oil? Before and at the time of CRISIS, OIL had been blamed to be the CRISIS catalyst. But NOW the OIL position has been changed by speculators, where OIL price is monitoring to be the reason for RECOVERY. So hike up in OIL price can be looked as Recovery is starting to begin. Remember about my comment about OIL long long time ago. It won't reach below US$35 and my estimation that they will stay around US$75 - US$80 at the end of the year (conservative) . Too many factors to be played with in OIL analysis. And remember that August won't be the JUDGEMENT month, September will do! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sun, 8/23/09, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, August 23, 2009, 8:29 AM Tapi kalo harga minyak naik/turun banyak overnight hanya krn berita ekonomi yg encouraging/ discouraging, bukankah itu hanya spekulasi Mbah?... 2009/8/23 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Jika harga minyak jatuh dibawah cost untuk suatu sumur, logikanya sumur itu ditutup. Dan sebaliknya jika harga minyak naik lagi diatas costnya maka suatu sumur yg sudah di abandon akan dioperasionalkan lagi. Ketika harga minyak jatuh dibawah 40 dollar otomatis jumlah rig berkurang. Sebaliknya jika harga minyak mulai tinggi lagi seperti sekarang maka jumlah rig yg dibutuhkan bertambah lagi. Pertambahan jumlah rig tentunya suatu investasi karena rig itu mahal biayanya tapi ini belum menjawab apakah harga minyak saat ini Demand Driven atau cuman permainan harga di bursa saja. Otoritas pun sebenarnya sudah tahu bahwa harga minyak itu merupakah ajang spekulasi dan permainan, ini yg membuat otoritas membuat aturan untuk meredam spekulasi harga minyak yg akan segera berlaku. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, TimurLaut i4...@... wrote: Total rig counts (Baker Hughes) di US turun drastis dari 1553 pada jan 2009 menjadi 895 rigs pada june 2009. Sejak june 2009, total rig counts di US naik dan terakhir 21 Aug 2009 naik 17 rigs dari 14 Aug 2009. Terlampir adalah US rig counts sejak tahun 2000. Silahkan interpretasi sendiri apakah kenaikan harga minyak ini merupakan fundamental driven atau speculative driven. Kalau menurut saya, jumlah rig counts adalah representasi dari tingkat kepercayaan perusahaan minyak atas naik harga minyak, jika mereka percaya bahwa naiknya harga minyak adalah spekulatif, then rig counts tidak akan naik. Data lengkapnya bisa dilihat di; http://investor. shareholder. com/bhi/rig_ counts/rc_ index.cfm btw, skrg ini berhubung hurricane season di Gulf of Mexico, maka meningkatnya harga minyak bisa saja merupakan spekulasi andai terjadi kerusakan fasilitas akibat hurricane. -TL _ _ __ From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 10:43:44 PM Subject: [ob] Re: ASII in the position to trade? Embah sih bukan ahli harga minyak, jadi cuman bisa jadi PENGAMAT doang... Tapi ini dari sejarah: - Dulu minyak topnya sampai mencapai 145 atau 147, lupa euy... - Ketika minyak lagi bergerak dari 100 ke 145, para BD commodity cuci gudang pelan pelan, dan
Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching
Great RUN is always followed by Correction (if do not want to mention FALL): - September is the worst month empirically, BUT different conditions may apply either (maybe this year's September can be the BLACK SWAN) - Market has been UP more than 50%. (there can be a limited UP) - Some executives in BIG companies has realized their profits through insider selling (nothing that acknowledged to be worsen than THIS one) - Keeping interest rates low v.s increasing interest rates; always a trade off works there (Central Bank focus on what purpose?) - Production cost is rising while no boost up in price, unemployment continue to hit new record, deleveraging consumers, etc. So, September will be the JUDGEMENT Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 1:54 AM Iya pak, makanya masih akan naik menurut saya walau sdh tdk banyak...skrg saja sdh agak berat kan. 2009/8/15 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com Yup TAL pak... Tapi kalo ngeshort barang sendiri sekarang disaat belum ijo kita yg retail rugi. Kalo bozz sih seneng2 aja... Semakin banyak yg nyerap barang dia. Naik lagi dijual lagi... Mirip dgn yg dibilang ama pak HMIN, ga akan langsung dibanting. Mungkin momentumnya kali ini mirip2 crash 2005. Dimana obligasi jatuh semua.. Selama september dibuat sengsara. Lagian masih ke 2500 kok janjinya. Hehehe kita nikmati aja hari selasa. From: Rei Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:07:46 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching Bukannya itu time to sell pak? TAL tuh... 2009/8/15 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com My personal opinion. . Yg mau short sekarang atau bandar mau banting sekarang malah rugi... WHY Kemarin malam sampe lunch time tadi 1. Dinner time kemarin, di sushi resto gt, segerombolan ibu bilang planning untuk masuk market... Bilang no fear lahh apa lah gitu.. Maklum dengerin sambil nguping2 gitu. 2. Tadi pagi havin dimsum di meja sebelah juga ribut bilangin saham buy ini lahh itu lahh masih belum naik tertinggi dll... 3. Sampe ngopi tadi sore pada ada yg bilang masih mau belanja.. Pada happy dow merah kemarin... Plus RM di bank bilang suruh beli reksadana mumpung ok. Mumpung belum 2800. Skrg masyarakat indo lagi raging to buy 4 indikator itu mnrt saya bahwa market udah kepanasan. Kalo buy to trade msh ok.. Untuk invest.. Tunggu dulu. Jadi kalo superbozz hari selasa malah naikin bursa berapa byk duit yg bs diraup Get d point kan? Tapi klo lgsg mau dibanting ya silahkan... I'm ready bozz From: Rei Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:15:26 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching No commo EL? BUMI won't be left behind by Bozz... On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote: Yeah but bullish without correction is very dangerous than can lead to structural damage. I'm always bullish for long term, for 3 yrs at least. Elaine 2009/8/15 Spiderman nadya...@yahoo. co.id El, bukannya kemaren baru bilang bullish..?? N recomment invest di BNBR n BMTR group... ?? Sekarang jd bearish lagi.. N stock pick nya juga beda lagi... Kalo senin regional asia ijo.. Bilang bullish n invest lagi? Sent from my StrawBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat BEJ From: Elaine Sui Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:19:53 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching He told us
Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching
Great RUN is always followed by Correction (if do not want to mention FALL): - September is the worst month empirically, BUT different conditions may apply either (maybe this year's September can be the BLACK SWAN) - Market has been UP more than 50%. (there can be a limited UP) - Some executives in BIG companies has realized their profits through insider selling (nothing that acknowledged to be worsen than THIS one) - Keeping interest rates low v.s increasing interest rates; always a trade off works there (Central Bank focus on what purpose?) - Production cost is rising while no boost up in price, unemployment continue to hit new record, deleveraging consumers, etc. So, September will be the JUDGEMENT MONTH Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 1:54 AM Iya pak, makanya masih akan naik menurut saya walau sdh tdk banyak...skrg saja sdh agak berat kan. 2009/8/15 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com Yup TAL pak... Tapi kalo ngeshort barang sendiri sekarang disaat belum ijo kita yg retail rugi. Kalo bozz sih seneng2 aja... Semakin banyak yg nyerap barang dia. Naik lagi dijual lagi... Mirip dgn yg dibilang ama pak HMIN, ga akan langsung dibanting. Mungkin momentumnya kali ini mirip2 crash 2005. Dimana obligasi jatuh semua.. Selama september dibuat sengsara. Lagian masih ke 2500 kok janjinya. Hehehe kita nikmati aja hari selasa. From: Rei Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:07:46 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching Bukannya itu time to sell pak? TAL tuh... 2009/8/15 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com My personal opinion. . Yg mau short sekarang atau bandar mau banting sekarang malah rugi... WHY Kemarin malam sampe lunch time tadi 1. Dinner time kemarin, di sushi resto gt, segerombolan ibu bilang planning untuk masuk market... Bilang no fear lahh apa lah gitu.. Maklum dengerin sambil nguping2 gitu. 2. Tadi pagi havin dimsum di meja sebelah juga ribut bilangin saham buy ini lahh itu lahh masih belum naik tertinggi dll... 3. Sampe ngopi tadi sore pada ada yg bilang masih mau belanja.. Pada happy dow merah kemarin... Plus RM di bank bilang suruh beli reksadana mumpung ok. Mumpung belum 2800. Skrg masyarakat indo lagi raging to buy 4 indikator itu mnrt saya bahwa market udah kepanasan. Kalo buy to trade msh ok.. Untuk invest.. Tunggu dulu. Jadi kalo superbozz hari selasa malah naikin bursa berapa byk duit yg bs diraup Get d point kan? Tapi klo lgsg mau dibanting ya silahkan... I'm ready bozz From: Rei Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:15:26 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching No commo EL? BUMI won't be left behind by Bozz... On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote: Yeah but bullish without correction is very dangerous than can lead to structural damage. I'm always bullish for long term, for 3 yrs at least. Elaine 2009/8/15 Spiderman nadya...@yahoo. co.id El, bukannya kemaren baru bilang bullish..?? N recomment invest di BNBR n BMTR group... ?? Sekarang jd bearish lagi.. N stock pick nya juga beda lagi... Kalo senin regional asia ijo.. Bilang bullish n invest lagi? Sent from my StrawBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat BEJ From: Elaine Sui Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:19:53 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching He told us to short. I agree with him, that's the lowest cost to make profit without hurting the valuation. We will see a BIG correction and we should be happy for it, because it will BOUNCE BACK BIG enough as well. Issues (please study first): deflation, unemployment (related to bad consumer spending report, in United Fuckin' States) China: protection and tight money policy int. rate rise Local: H1N1, unstable IDR. And I'm worried about Obama safety vs Israel as he's a bit hard on them especially on West Bank settlement. Hopefully he doesn't end up like Lincoln or Kennedy. Nobody can control the market behaviour, but some ppl are good at EXPLOITING and TAKING ADVANTAGE of it. When it comes, BUY BUY BUY and again BUY. My stock picks: domestic sector: telecomms, infrastructure, cement, construction, tobaccos Think long term, the economic power is shifting to Asia. This correction is a BLESSING in DISGUISE. How low? I don't know, that's JT/TT job to measure as it is very technical (possibly at long term support or something, or moving average of 200d). I will provide a macro view, JT/TT provides the entry/exists, Art and Embah will be the
Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching: JUDGEMENT MONTH
Great RUN is always followed by Correction (if do not want to mention FALL): - September is the worst month empirically, BUT different conditions may apply either (maybe this year's September can be the BLACK SWAN) - Market has been UP more than 50%. (there can be a limited UP) - Some executives in BIG companies has realized their profits through insider selling (nothing that acknowledged to be worsen than THIS one) - Keeping interest rates low v.s increasing interest rates; always a trade off works there (Central Bank focus on what purpose?) - Production cost is rising while no boost up in price, unemployment continue to hit new record, deleveraging consumers, etc. So, September will be the JUDGEMENT MONTH for all of us, not the August one! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sun, 8/16/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 16, 2009, 1:54 AM Iya pak, makanya masih akan naik menurut saya walau sdh tdk banyak...skrg saja sdh agak berat kan. 2009/8/15 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com Yup TAL pak... Tapi kalo ngeshort barang sendiri sekarang disaat belum ijo kita yg retail rugi. Kalo bozz sih seneng2 aja... Semakin banyak yg nyerap barang dia. Naik lagi dijual lagi... Mirip dgn yg dibilang ama pak HMIN, ga akan langsung dibanting. Mungkin momentumnya kali ini mirip2 crash 2005. Dimana obligasi jatuh semua.. Selama september dibuat sengsara. Lagian masih ke 2500 kok janjinya. Hehehe kita nikmati aja hari selasa. From: Rei Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 22:07:46 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching Bukannya itu time to sell pak? TAL tuh... 2009/8/15 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com My personal opinion. . Yg mau short sekarang atau bandar mau banting sekarang malah rugi... WHY Kemarin malam sampe lunch time tadi 1. Dinner time kemarin, di sushi resto gt, segerombolan ibu bilang planning untuk masuk market... Bilang no fear lahh apa lah gitu.. Maklum dengerin sambil nguping2 gitu. 2. Tadi pagi havin dimsum di meja sebelah juga ribut bilangin saham buy ini lahh itu lahh masih belum naik tertinggi dll... 3. Sampe ngopi tadi sore pada ada yg bilang masih mau belanja.. Pada happy dow merah kemarin... Plus RM di bank bilang suruh beli reksadana mumpung ok. Mumpung belum 2800. Skrg masyarakat indo lagi raging to buy 4 indikator itu mnrt saya bahwa market udah kepanasan. Kalo buy to trade msh ok.. Untuk invest.. Tunggu dulu. Jadi kalo superbozz hari selasa malah naikin bursa berapa byk duit yg bs diraup Get d point kan? Tapi klo lgsg mau dibanting ya silahkan... I'm ready bozz From: Rei Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 21:15:26 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching No commo EL? BUMI won't be left behind by Bozz... On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 6:50 PM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote: Yeah but bullish without correction is very dangerous than can lead to structural damage. I'm always bullish for long term, for 3 yrs at least. Elaine 2009/8/15 Spiderman nadya...@yahoo. co.id El, bukannya kemaren baru bilang bullish..?? N recomment invest di BNBR n BMTR group... ?? Sekarang jd bearish lagi.. N stock pick nya juga beda lagi... Kalo senin regional asia ijo.. Bilang bullish n invest lagi? Sent from my StrawBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat BEJ From: Elaine Sui Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2009 18:19:53 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Analis Hebat dan Baik Hati + Last wish to I Ching He told us to short. I agree with him, that's the lowest cost to make profit without hurting the valuation. We will see a BIG correction and we should be happy for it, because it will BOUNCE BACK BIG enough as well. Issues (please study first): deflation, unemployment (related to bad consumer spending report, in United Fuckin' States) China: protection and tight money policy int. rate rise Local: H1N1, unstable IDR. And I'm worried about Obama safety vs Israel as he's a bit hard on them especially on West Bank settlement. Hopefully he doesn't end up like Lincoln or Kennedy. Nobody can control the market behaviour, but some ppl are good at EXPLOITING and TAKING ADVANTAGE of it. When it comes, BUY BUY BUY and again BUY. My stock picks: domestic sector: telecomms, infrastructure, cement, construction, tobaccos Think long term, the economic power is shifting to Asia. This correction is a BLESSING in DISGUISE. How low? I don't know, that's JT/TT job to measure as it is very technical (possibly at long term support or something, or moving average of 200d). I will provide a macro view, JT/TT provides the
Re: [ob] Re: BUMI dijagain bener
HIDE SEEK BUMI: Please pay attention to 1st support at 2650. If 2650 break then you should think twice to HOLD or BUY them more. ANTM: Potential resistance breakout at 2425, but pay close attention to BUMI if you are a portfolio manager. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Thu, 8/6/09, Huang Cui cuiwa...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Huang Cui cuiwa...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: BUMI dijagain bener To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, August 6, 2009, 3:38 AM kayaknya skenarionya sama dgn sewaktu bumi di 1950di jagain 1 pekan...eh tiba2 tembus ke 1600 aneh ditarik lagi mang sampe skrgapakah akan berulang lagi ??? --- On Wed, 8/5/09, Vernichtung gambler.bej@ gmail.com wrote: From: Vernichtung gambler.bej@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: BUMI dijagain bener To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, August 5, 2009, 11:31 PM Distro belum selesai? 2009/8/6 T Halim tedha...@yahoo. com Benar kata pak JT, BUMI di pagerin bener di paling bawah cuman 2650.. Whats up?
Re: Bls: [ob] Ada yg bisa kasih gambaran Inco (TP, trading range)? Pak JT?
Just Hold ANTM for your child Pak Rei Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Thu, 7/23/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] Ada yg bisa kasih gambaran Inco (TP, trading range)? Pak JT? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, July 23, 2009, 7:52 AM Antm sih nanti aja pak jualannya, tunggu nickel sdh balik ke level 30K or more hehehe Itu saya lho, gak usah diikutin lah, too long to wait mungkin. Inco pengen tahu aja nih, memang mirip lah sama Antm cuma koq kayaknya Antm lbh diminati dibanding Inco... 2009/7/23 David Hartanto adharta...@yahoo. co.id He..he..he.. ANTM yang lagi mulai gerak tuh, Bos. --- Pada Kam, 23/7/09, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com menulis: Dari: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Judul: [ob] Ada yg bisa kasih gambaran Inco (TP, trading range)? Pak JT? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 23 Juli, 2009, 2:44 PM Pak Hans? Thanks sebelumnya!! ! Akses email lebih cepat. Yahoo! menyarankan Anda meng-upgrade browser ke Internet Explorer 8 baru yang dioptimalkan untuk Yahoo! Dapatkan di sini! (Gratis)
Re: [ob] Elaine... We need more correction not just 200-300 point..
Does Elaine name come from the article below? LOL :) Elaine M. Garzarelli (born in Springfield, Pennsylvania) is an American financial analyst. Garzarelli received her first degree from New York University[1] and went on to receive her doctorate from Drexel University in 1977.[2] While working as a stock analyst, she became known for predicting Black Monday, the stock market crash of 1987. More accurately, her financial analysis indicated that the market was overvalued, leading her to sell about 50% of the stocks in her fund while making other hedges against a crash. The timing of her actions—Black Monday came about a week later—led to her being dubbed as someone who had predicted the crash. Her later comments that I felt awkward because I got so much attention. A few weeks after that I made a negative comment, and the market dropped 120 points that day. The Wall Street Journal wrote that I had moved the stock market, and I was very uncomfortable. My career was going very nicely until then, and it was too much attention. It was a lot of pressure. indicate her discomfort with being put on a pedestal as a seer with a crystal ball.[3] In the spring of 2003, shortly before a prolonged multi-year bull market, she predicted a stock market stuck in a holding pattern for years.[4] Garzarelli was a partner and managing director at several major brokerage firms until 1995 when she founded her own business, Garzarelli Research, Inc.. For eleven years she had been ranked first team in Quantitative Analysis in Institutional Investor magazine's all-star poll. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 7/7/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote: From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Elaine... We need more correction not just 200-300 point.. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, July 7, 2009, 6:42 AM Ah, you just love me, don't you.. ok Hans, you're a technical expert right? Now open your chart, look at it, what do you see? Elaine 2009/7/6 Hans Kwee h...@bumianyar. net Mungkin banyak yang merasa mampu mendikte pasar. mengarahkan pasar sesuai keinginannya. tetapi benarkah itu, kalau itu terjadi apakah pasar masih akan bergerak... kalau ada yang mampu mendikte pasar 1. sy pecaya orang itu pasti mampu memindahkan uang seluruh dunia ke kantongnya. kalau dia mampu melakukannya kenapa harus memberitahu orang banyak... nanti jangan2 semua orang ikut dia sehingga pasar berhenti. ada yang bisa memberikan pandangan... 2. atau hanya sebuah tebakan yang untung2 an untuk menapatkan reputasi dan sensai... 3. atau berusahan memprovokasi orang lain agar mengikuti keinginannya sehingga mendapatkan barang di bawah... lebih baik sy percaya dgn harga yang berubah menjadi candle maaf pendapat pribadi saya, tanpa maksud menyinggun siapapaun... sekali lagi maaf... terima kasih Hans - Original Message - From: Elaine Sui To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:10 PM Subject: Re: [ob] Elaine... We need more correction not just 200-300 point.. Can, can. Easy fo me lah, hard to you all lolz.. Elaine 2009/7/6 elvira raven elviraraven@ yahoo.com Lanjutkan Elaine..
Re: [ob] HARI INI MELEGAKAN ......
1680 for testing their next support Pak JT..haha Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 6/30/09, JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: JT™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] HARI INI MELEGAKAN .. To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 30, 2009, 4:13 PM 1600nya buat IHSG apa saham tertentu nih Pak DE? Hehe... (Ti-ati kalo tebakan ama Boss DE.., musti detail !..., hehehe) Sent From BullBerry® “TA is not 100% Fool Proof, Never Trade Without Stop Order”From: Dean Earwicker Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:47:53 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] HARI INI MELEGAKAN .. Ayo lah kita buktikan siapa yang paling bandar* Billy vs DE. Skill vs experience. Sebelum tgl 8 Juli, 1600 tembus. Ayo Bill, berani tarohan kayang sampe monas? Saya engga pake indikator, cuma pake mata lihat chart polos. Yang menang, berhak nonton transformer bareng Aimee, makan malam sama EL dana bobo sama TBumi. Regards, DE * becanda Pada 30 Juni 2009 22:33, h...@bumianyar. net menulis: Pak... Kenapa setelah lewat tgl 30 Juni dibilang ihsg gak mungkin ke 1600 dan 1630. Menurut sy semua mungkin di pasar. Dalam trading kita tidak perlu fokus di prediksi tetapi di antisipasi gerakan harga. Semua mungkin dipasar dan tidak ada yg tidak mustahil. Thx HansSent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... !From: FromBuitenzorg Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 11:47:52 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] HARI INI MELEGAKAN .. HARI2 menjelang Pilpres, hari ini melegakan dan yang paling penting indeks (IHSG) masih bertengger di atas 2000-an :)Artinya indeks 1600/1630 sudah batal, karena tgl 30 Juni sudah terlewati dg aman dan nyaman. Seperti yg dikatakan kalo melewati 30 juni akan amanSelanjutnya apabila nanti Presiden terpilih sesuai keinginan PASAR, maka hampir dapat dipastikan akan BULLISH... Rgrds
Re: [ob] BUMI: Menuju Rp 2.800 ?
Oil market will experience rebound in very short term period related to China Announcement. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 6/29/09, Data Saham datasaha...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Data Saham datasaha...@yahoo.com Subject: [ob] BUMI: Menuju Rp 2.800 ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 29, 2009, 7:19 AM VIVAnews - Fundamental yang menjanjikan dan aksi korporasi emiten yang bernilai positif diprediksi bisa mendongkrak harga saham PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) ke level Rp 2.800 sampai akhir tahun ini. Menurut analis sekuritas asing David Cornelis, fundamental dan aksi korporasi perseroan masih dinanti para pelaku pasar. Seperti keputusan Mappi (Masyarakat Profesi Penilai Indonesia), terkait akuisisinya terhadap PT Fajar Bumi Sakti, kata dia kepada VIVAnews di Jakarta, Senin, 29 Juni 2009. Dia menambahkan, aksi-aksi korporasi perusahaan lainya termasuk negosiasi dalam memasok 10 juta ton batu bara ke China dan India dan rencana pembagian dividen Bumi Resources juga selalu dinanti pelaku pasar. David mengakui, rencana ekspansi strategis perseroan dalam meningkatkan pendapatan dengan cara menaikkan kapasitas produksi dari 50 juta ton di 2009, menjadi dua kali lipatnya dalam tiga tahun ke depan tentunya memberikan angin segar bagi kinerja dan pergerakan saham Bumi di pasar modal. Sehingga, dirinya mengatakan fundamental perseroan sampai saat ini tidak ada masalah. Apalagi, bila harga minyak mentah dunia meningkat, tentunya harga komoditas batu bara memberikan sentimen positif bagi kinerja Bumi. Sedang terkait gadai (jamin) aset untuk dapat utang, menurut dia, juga menjadi persoalan yang perlu ditakutkan dan sifatnya normal aja, asal sesuai dengan prosedur dan memenuhi keterbukaan informasi kepada publik dan pemegang saham pada khususnya. David memproyeksikan, pendapatan perseroan pada tahun ini akan mencapai US$3,22 miliar dan pada 2010 diprediksi sebesar US$3,46 miliar. Sedangkan laba bersih sampai akhir 2009 mencapai US$320 juta dan tahun berikutnya sebesar US$365 juta. Memang dibanding 2008, ada penurunan target karena keuntungan Bumi dialihkan untuk membayar utang. Tapi kan, malah bagus kalau perseroan bebas utang, tuturnya. Lebih lanjut, dia mengatakan dilihat dari valuasi BUMI termasuk menjanjikan dan masih menarik untuk dikoleksi. Sebab, price to earning ratio (PER) cukup murah dibanding sektornya. PER sektor batu bara 9 kali dan PER regional sekitar 12, sedang BUMI 8 kali, ujar David. David merekomendasikan, beli saat harga melemah (buy on Weakness), sebab ditinjau dari sisi teknis BUMI masih bergerak konsolidasi dalam jangka pendek. Namun, untuk jangka menengah-panjang saham cenderung bergerak di tren menguat (bullish). Target harga sampai akhir 2009, BUMI bisa menembus level Rp 2.800, kata dia. Sementara itu, analis PT Optima Securities Ikhsan Binarto menyarankan pelaku pasar untuk menyimpan saham Bumi untuk jangka pendek karena harga berpeluang menembus level Rp 1.990-2.000. Sinyal beli kembali muncul, disertai masuknya dana asing (capital inflow) ke saham perseroan, ujarnya. Dia mengakui, mesti volume transaksi masih terbilang rata-rata dan belum ada kenaikan signifikan tapi dari indikator fast stochastic memperkuat bakal terjadinya tren menguat pada BUMI. Memang, indikator RSI (relative strenght index) dan Williams%R netral, kata Ikhsan.
Re: [ob] bumi dan indf-----ANY COMMENT?IS THIS INFO VALID?
From IQ Plus: IQP, (26/6) - Bumi Resources telah mencapai kesepakatan untuk menerima hasil penilaian MAPPI dengan pemilik Fajar Bumi namun atas dasar kepemilikan 50 % bukan atas dasar kepemilikan yang lebih tinggi yakni 76,7 %, demikian Dileep Srivistava dalam keterangannya. Menurutnya perseroan telah melakukan diskusi secara intensif dengan pemilik fajar sejak penyampaian hasil penilaian MAPPI pada 8 juni lalu. Sebelumnya MAPPI menilai akuisisi BUMI terhadap Fajar Bumi senilai Rp370 miliar terhadap 76,8 % terlalu mahal. End (AF) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 6/26/09, billy_wta billybudima...@yahoo.com wrote: From: billy_wta billybudima...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] bumi dan indf To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 26, 2009, 3:52 AM Ayo UNVR, Maju hajar 9,250. Mumpung udah kepala 9 nih, jiakakaka, happy happy, sambil nunggu INDF dan BUMI ke 2,000. UNVR duluan lah, hehehehehe GBU --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Peter Alimin captivated@ ... wrote: yang jelas ane lg takut.. UNVR break new high, mentang2 pion BBCA lg ga bs digunain To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com From: billybudiman20@ ... Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 03:27:21 + Subject: Re: [ob] bumi dan indf Jiakakakkaa, awas ntar om arto ngamuk, BUMI balik ke 2,300, INDF balik ke 2,200, NGAREP.COM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bozz Trader powerman.trader@ wrote: Kalau ane lihat nggak ada yg duluan karena due due nye juge nggak akan nyampe di 2000 .firasat.com _ From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 9:38 AM To: ob Subject: [ob] bumi dan indf bumi dan indf duluan mana yang ke 2000..? DISCLAIMER ON _ _ _ _ __ Apakah Anda Yahoo!? Lelah menerima spam? Surat Yahoo! memiliki perlindungan terbaik terhadap spam http://id.mail. yahoo.com _ _ _ _ _ _ Join the Fantasy Football club and win cash prizes here! http://fantasyfootb all.id.msn. com
Re: [ob] Mental makin kuat
The BAD sign is BOZZ still flood the market and collect almost nothing compared
to the volume that they have been sold until NOW. If BUMI can't be closed above
1700, I'm afraid that tomorrow will be the same old story (although DOW is in
green area tonight).
Regards,
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote:
From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id
Subject: Re: [ob] Mental makin kuat
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:37 AM
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
Setuju sekali...makanya jangan sok2an nantang bozz di milis hehehe...we are
all NOTHING compared to bozz...
Pak Rei,
Engga semua gara gara Bozz, penurunan IHSG sudah diprediksikan
sejak tgl 15/06/08. Liat buktinya:
- http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ pwlihsgzz. htm
4 hari sebelum grafik ini dibuat terjadi distribusi karena
index komoditas di US sudah mulai turun. Lalu distribusi
terus berlanjut. Embah bilang BOZZ itu KEJAM, dia akan
beli BALIK diharga YG MURAH..
Kebetulan index DJ jatuh, jadi moment ini digunakan.
Kalo pake logika BuyBack diharga murah maka CRASH ini sebenarnya
PREDICTABLE tapi waktunya UNpredictable.
Jadi DISTRUSI yg GEDE sudah terjadi lama tapi IHSG masih
bisa bertahan, tapi sekarang sebenarnya bukan distribusi lagi,
tapi memaksa orang CUT LOSS...
Nah masalahnya: meskipun distribusi yg terjadi kecil, LOWnya
dilevel berapa ini si Bozz yg ngatur.
Mudah mudahan saja 1888.8 menjadi LOWnya, tapi kalo 1888.8
sampe JEBOL lagi, terpaksa kita terbirit birit lagi.
Targetnya sebenarnya Komoditi jadi kalo BUMI rebound, semua
komoditi akan rebound ..
BUMI LOW 1670, saat ini rebound 1700, ihsg -58... Mudah
mudahan rebound dah...
2009/6/23 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_ 2...@...
kalo emang masih semangat siapin ember, berarti indikator psikologis trader
masih kuat.
bisa jadi malah di HIT BOZZ supaya sampe mentalnya down.
moga2 mereka juga tau batasnya. kalo sampe di buat bear lagi.. akhirnya
repot semua dehh
**
**
*ThomaS FredericK*
--- On *Tue, 6/23/09, I believe in Elaine siangmalamphoto@ ...*wrote:
From: I believe in Elaine siangmalamphoto@ ...
Subject: Re: [ob] Mental makin kuat
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:41 AM
Bener juga ya , kalo di 2008 mah sampe terganggu makan dan tidur ,
sekarang malah makin semangat siapin ember .
FYI , porto masih 60% saham . Tapi dengan 40% yang sdh cash out , saya
yakin kalo indeks beneran ke 16xx , bisa menghasilkan jauh lebih besar dari
yg 60% itu hehehe 
- -
*From*: Kevin Hogan
*Date*: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:49:48 +0700
*To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
*Subject*: [ob] Mental makin kuat
Pernah mengalami yg lebih menegangkan di tahun 2008. Penurunan indeks
sekarang kok sepertinya biasa2 aja. Udah mati rasa nih. Beberapa saham udah
cut loss kemarin. Jadi sudah terbiasa. Untuk yg belum sempet mengalami crash
seperti tahun 2008, sebelum masuk pasar saham lebih baik siapin mental, ilmu
TA, FA, dll. Itu yg saya rasakan dan sekarang makin PD.
Re: [ob] Mental makin kuat
Until they can get at a very very low price Pak Rei, we can take a calculator
and ready to calculate, it gonna be SOON and should not be TODAY.
Regards,
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund
--- On Tue, 6/23/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [ob] Mental makin kuat
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 7:57 AM
Tapi Mbah, bright side-nya penurunan ini diharapkan utk menjadi dasar
kenaikan yg lebih tinggi lagi. Kapannya itu masih tanda tanya hehehe
2009/6/23 Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com
LOWnya dilevel berapa ini si Bozz yg ngatur...
Itu maksud saya Mbah.Saya ingat postingan pak Oen Mbah yg menyatakan akan
terjadinya koreksi dikarenakan index sdh ketinggian, asing ingin masuk (tentu
di level yg berbeda dgn level ritel masuk dong), pilpres, dll. Apa mau
komoditas turun dan DJI juga makanya bozz dapat angin...tapi biarkan saja bozz
bekerja jadi kita bisa ikut masuk sesuai dgn kepercayaan masing2 apakah sdh
murah apa belum. Yg masih harapin 1600 ya tentu gak usah masuk, ya harapin
rebound dalam waktu dekat tentu masuk sekarang. Yg masih bingung, ya
minggir...hehe
No body knows index akan ke berapa walau panduan dari chart ada tapi bozz juga
tahu antisipasi pasar di berapa, adanya juga cuma tebak2an.com :-) Saya malah
takut kalo ritel makan terus malah akan diturunin terus sampai the last man
standing lagi. Wah...
2009/6/23 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote:
Setuju sekali...makanya jangan sok2an nantang bozz di milis hehehe...we are
all NOTHING compared to bozz...
Pak Rei,
Engga semua gara gara Bozz, penurunan IHSG sudah diprediksikan
sejak tgl 15/06/08. Liat buktinya:
- http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ pwlihsgzz. htm
4 hari sebelum grafik ini dibuat terjadi distribusi karena
index komoditas di US sudah mulai turun. Lalu distribusi
terus berlanjut. Embah bilang BOZZ itu KEJAM, dia akan
beli BALIK diharga YG MURAH..
Kebetulan index DJ jatuh, jadi moment ini digunakan.
Kalo pake logika BuyBack diharga murah maka CRASH ini sebenarnya
PREDICTABLE tapi waktunya UNpredictable.
Jadi DISTRUSI yg GEDE sudah terjadi lama tapi IHSG masih
bisa bertahan, tapi sekarang sebenarnya bukan distribusi lagi,
tapi memaksa orang CUT LOSS...
Nah masalahnya: meskipun distribusi yg terjadi kecil, LOWnya
dilevel berapa ini si Bozz yg ngatur.
Mudah mudahan saja 1888.8 menjadi LOWnya, tapi kalo 1888.8
sampe JEBOL lagi, terpaksa kita terbirit birit lagi.
Targetnya sebenarnya Komoditi jadi kalo BUMI rebound, semua
komoditi akan rebound ..
BUMI LOW 1670, saat ini rebound 1700, ihsg -58... Mudah
mudahan rebound dah...
2009/6/23 Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ ...
kalo emang masih semangat siapin ember, berarti indikator psikologis trader
masih kuat.
bisa jadi malah di HIT BOZZ supaya sampe mentalnya down.
moga2 mereka juga tau batasnya. kalo sampe di buat bear lagi.. akhirnya
repot semua dehh
**
**
*ThomaS FredericK*
--- On *Tue, 6/23/09, I believe in Elaine siangmalamphoto@ ...*wrote:
From: I believe in Elaine siangmalamphoto@ ...
Subject: Re: [ob] Mental makin kuat
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 1:41 AM
Bener juga ya , kalo di 2008 mah sampe terganggu makan dan tidur ,
sekarang malah makin semangat siapin ember .
FYI , porto masih 60% saham . Tapi dengan 40% yang sdh cash out , saya
yakin kalo indeks beneran ke 16xx , bisa menghasilkan jauh lebih besar dari
yg 60% itu hehehe 
- -
*From*: Kevin Hogan
*Date*: Tue, 23 Jun 2009 11:49:48 +0700
*To*: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
*Subject*: [ob] Mental makin kuat
Pernah mengalami yg lebih menegangkan di tahun 2008. Penurunan indeks
sekarang kok sepertinya biasa2 aja. Udah mati rasa nih. Beberapa saham udah
cut loss kemarin. Jadi sudah terbiasa. Untuk yg belum sempet mengalami crash
seperti tahun 2008, sebelum masuk pasar saham lebih baik siapin mental, ilmu
TA, FA, dll. Itu yg saya rasakan dan sekarang makin PD.
Re: [ob] New message from ELAINE di Facebook
That's good Pak Rei, do you still remember that some OB members were laugh on us to hold PTBA several times ago, right? I've heard that they gonna do some BIG corporate actions (disclaimer: ON :)). So, shall we see another WILD ride of PTBA? Hmmmtalking about recent correction, we think that it's not a BIG deal. One of the joke for yesterday was some of traders whom we called last night told us that correction is due to JK opportunity to WIN the presidential election is increasing (What the H#ck is this? Is this the reason behind correction..LOL)and they confirmed by this morning that most of college students had choosen SBY to be reelected in instant voting. So, does IT mean that market is going UP again today? (What the H#ck again?LOL)Hahaha...what a funny Bource! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 6/19/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] New message from ELAINE di Facebook To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 1:53 AM Bukan...saya jelaskan sekali lagi, saya belum out 1 lot pun pak :-) 2009/6/18 jku...@yahoo. com Tadi saya ambil PTBA, itu barang pak Rei bukan? He he Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT From: Rei Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 22:25:40 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] New message from ELAINE di Facebook Kalo dari kacamata saya, sudah pasti gitu Mbah hehe... Vol kecil, persentasi jatuh besar...mestinya BOW. Bahagia lah yg beli tadi walau dikit/sedang. .. always see the big pic, not small ones...tapi kalo besok merah berat jgn ludahi saya ya hehehehe On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:54 PM, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote: Embah lagi mikir, sepertinya ADA SESUATU YG ENGGA BERES HARI INI. Jatuhnya TERLALU DALAM dan TERLALU CEPAT, seperti lagi MAKSA CUT LOSS... Siapa tahu cuman JEBAKAN DOANG Any idea Guys ?. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, noknik anip...@... wrote: embah kalau kita simpan saham kita dan nggak CL.. kira-kira ke depan masih OK nggak ya Mbah... trauma nih dg okt crashthe point is apkh trennya msh naik mbah dan ini adalah koreksi? suwun nggih... 2009/6/18 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Nyopetin duit BD itu gampang Tapi sekali BD balas dendam, rumah satu kampung DIGARONG... Trader dimilis OB udah kebanyakan yg pinter pinter jadi terpaksa DIGARONG hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com, Lucky Trader soluckytrader@ wrote: Very wise... In the market, the most difficult is how to fight and control our self. Ain't sure, why Ms EL doesn't wanna join with OB. Her view is really valuable for us. EL WW MS YU [?][?] -LT On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:04 PM, johannes johannes bejojoe@wrote: Elaine Sui http://www.facebook .com/profile. php?id=165926173 4ref=nf Think investing like raising a child. Sometimes the child is nice, sometimes he's a bit naughty. He can be sick, catch cold, and you have to take care of him. At the end, when the mother gets old, the boy already became a man, and he will take care of you in return. -- nokniik
Re: [ob] Market @FEAR Level
A Quote: BUY Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 6/19/09, anrusing data anru.s...@gmail.com wrote: From: anrusing data anru.s...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Market @FEAR Level To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, June 19, 2009, 3:06 AM setuju pak... hanya timingnya itu yg sulit... ada rekomen? 2009/6/19 hst auto hsta...@gmail. com Be Fear When Market Greedy. Be Greedy when market Fear. Apakah berlaku untuk saat ini??? who knows.
Re: [ob] Trs: [cenayank_saham] Bedah radar alap-alap Minggu ke 2, Juni 2009 (part 2....)
BUMI new HIGH is not yet reached.Ups Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 6/9/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Trs: [cenayank_saham] Bedah radar alap-alap Minggu ke 2, Juni 2009 (part 2) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009, 7:54 AM saya lihatnya per saham sih pak... tapi I could be wrong lah... On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:51 PM, kusumo k kusu...@gmail. com wrote: kalo liat weekly sectoral bukannya udah pada new high ya pak rei ? ato saya salah liat nggak yaaduh bisa gak shopping neh kalo salah liat :) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote: Tapi kenapa koq tdk pada buat new high lagi kalo bullish... :) On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:39 PM, kusumo k kusu...@gmail. com wrote: Overbought but people keep buying kan equal bullish :) Tukang kangkung lagi pulang kampung mengkalee... . On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Yudizz yudiz...@gmail. com wrote: Hampir semua saham favorit di BEI overbought, dan hampir semuanya masih naik terus. Sebenarnya mereka2 yang saat ini beli itu masih rasional apa nggak sih? Regards, Yudizz Powered by BEI Berbullish™ May The BULL Be With You From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Cenayank Saham Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 2:25 PM To: Obrolan Bandar Subject: [ob] Trs: [cenayank_saham] Bedah radar alap-alap Minggu ke 2, Juni 2009 (part 2) FYI - Pesan Diteruskan Terkirim: Senin, 8 Juni, 2009 10:56:22 Topik: [cenayank_saham] Bedah radar alap-alap Minggu ke 2, Juni 2009 (part 2) Dear friends, Saya tidak tau apa saham anda..tapi siapa tau anda punya saham-saham spt dibawah ini.. Sekedar untuk panduan : SMGR : from Overbought, run to Middle Area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 5.100,- Near Support : RP. 4.750,- Next Support : Rp. 4.275,- Near Resistance : Rp. 5.250,- TLKM : at Overbought area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 7.750,- Near Support : Rp. 7.550,- Next Support : Rp. 7.000,- Near Resistance : Rp. 8.100,- Next Resistance : Rp. 8.650,- ISAT : Avg. Buy, run to Overbought area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 5.150,- Near Support : Rp. 4.850,- Near Resistance : Rp. 5.750,- Next Resistance : Rp. 6.650,- MEDC : at Middle area (Long term Bullish) 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 3.500,- Near Support : Rp. 3.350,- Next Support : Rp. 3.125,- Near Resistance : Rp. 3.825,- Next Resistance : Rp. 4.300,- SMCB : Avg. Buy, run to Overbought area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 1.080,- Neat Support : Rp. 1.060,- Next Support : Rp. 980,- Near Resistance : Rp. 1.140,- Next Resistance : Rp. 1.530,- INTP : at Middle area to Oversold Area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 6.700,- Near Support : Rp. 6.500,- Next Support : Rp. 6.050,- Near Resistance : Rp. 7.250,- Next Resistance : Rp. 8.000,- ASII : at Overbought area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 24.150,- Near Support : Rp. 21.800,- Next Support : Rp. 19.400,- Near Resistance : Rp. 24.800,- Next Resistance : Rp. 26.600,- HEXA : at Overbought Area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 2.175,- Near Support : Rp. 2.025,- Next Support : Rp. 1.720,- Near Resistance : Rp. 2.325,- Next Resistance : Rp. 2.625,- BLTA : Avg. Buy, run to Overbought area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 910,- Near Support : Rp. 870,- Next Support : Rp. 740,- Near Resistance : Rp. 940,- Next Resistance : Rp. 1.110,- INKP : at Middle Area to Overbought area 05/06/2009 closing price : Rp. 1.680,- Near Support : Rp. 1.620,- Next Support : Rp. 1.300,- Near Resistance : Rp. 1.940,- Next Resistance : Rp. 2.575,- Salam, JH **Seminar : Tips n Tricks Trading for Newbie with JH, 27 Juni 2009 @ Hotel Ibis Tamarin, Jakarta Pusat. For information just contact : +62 21 97843427 (Erika)**
Re: [ob] Morgan Stanley Jadi Pemegang Saham MIRA
Finally, it has been disclosed. Thanks to TS for this so long time. Cover your GAP soon! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Yudizz yudiz...@gmail.com wrote: From: Yudizz yudiz...@gmail.com Subject: [ob] Morgan Stanley Jadi Pemegang Saham MIRA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 1:41 PM Pantesan kemarin MIRA geraknya kaya orang mabuk. Mau siap2 ke bulan rupanya KONTAN - INVESTASI http://www.kontan. co.id/index. php/investasi/ news/15240/ Morgan-Stanley- Jadi-Pemegang- Saham-MIRA Senin, 08 Juni 2009 | 19:15 Investasi Asing Morgan Stanley Jadi Pemegang Saham MIRA JAKARTA. Pasar saham yang sudah mulai membaik ini mendorong asing mulai masuk ke Indonesia. PT Mitra International Resources Tbk (MIRA) pun mendapat getahnya. Berdasarkan Daftar Pemegang Saham (DPS) pada 5 Juni tercatat Morgan Stanley Co. Intl Plc masuk menjadi salah satu pemegang saham MIRA. Bahkan jumlah saham yang tercatat cukup besar yaitu sebesar 19,17 persen. Angka ini terbilang cukup besar. Sebab setelah Mitra International ini beralih bisnis menjadi perusahaan penunjang minyak dan gas komposisi kepemilikan saham terbesar ada di tangan publik. Dalam rilis disebut bahwa nilai kepemilikan saham publik sebesar 61,78 persen. Vinkan Ayu Wulandari, Media Relation berharap dengan tercatatnya Morgan Stanley akan dapat meningkatkan kepercayaan investor asing pada MIRA. Diharapkan memberi arah positif terhadap keputusan-keputusan investasi berikutnya dari para investor baik asing maupun lokal, ujarnya. Avanty Nurdiana Powered by BEI Berbullish™ May The BULL Be With You
Re: [ob] Morgan Stanley Jadi Pemegang Saham MIRA
A Man behind all of these. I can't mention u a Name. UU ITE related haha. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 6/8/09, anru.s...@gmail.com anru.s...@gmail.com wrote: From: anru.s...@gmail.com anru.s...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Morgan Stanley Jadi Pemegang Saham MIRA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 4:03 PM TS maksudnya Tutup Sendiri? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: SyIFA Fund Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 08:05:01 -0700 (PDT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] Morgan Stanley Jadi Pemegang Saham MIRA Finally, it has been disclosed. Thanks to TS for this so long time. Cover your GAP soon! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 6/8/09, Yudizz yudiz...@gmail. com wrote: From: Yudizz yudiz...@gmail. com Subject: [ob] Morgan Stanley Jadi Pemegang Saham MIRA To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, June 8, 2009, 1:41 PM Pantesan kemarin MIRA geraknya kaya orang mabuk. Mau siap2 ke bulan rupanya KONTAN - INVESTASI http://www.kontan. co.id/index. php/investasi/ news/15240/ Morgan-Stanley- Jadi-Pemegang- Saham-MIRA Senin, 08 Juni 2009 | 19:15 Investasi Asing Morgan Stanley Jadi Pemegang Saham MIRA JAKARTA. Pasar saham yang sudah mulai membaik ini mendorong asing mulai masuk ke Indonesia. PT Mitra International Resources Tbk (MIRA) pun mendapat getahnya. Berdasarkan Daftar Pemegang Saham (DPS) pada 5 Juni tercatat Morgan Stanley Co. Intl Plc masuk menjadi salah satu pemegang saham MIRA. Bahkan jumlah saham yang tercatat cukup besar yaitu sebesar 19,17 persen. Angka ini terbilang cukup besar. Sebab setelah Mitra International ini beralih bisnis menjadi perusahaan penunjang minyak dan gas komposisi kepemilikan saham terbesar ada di tangan publik. Dalam rilis disebut bahwa nilai kepemilikan saham publik sebesar 61,78 persen. Vinkan Ayu Wulandari, Media Relation berharap dengan tercatatnya Morgan Stanley akan dapat meningkatkan kepercayaan investor asing pada MIRA. Diharapkan memberi arah positif terhadap keputusan-keputusan investasi berikutnya dari para investor baik asing maupun lokal, ujarnya. Avanty Nurdiana Powered by BEI Berbullish™ May The BULL Be With You
Re: [ob] fokus BUMI
Bu Fifi, BUMI is going down to 1900, OK BOS BG? then do your contrarian movement!Regards,SF FMWhere you can trust your fund--- On Wed, 6/3/09, fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.com wrote:From: fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [ob] fokus BUMITo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 10:57 AM 2009/6/3 fifi young fifiyoung03@ gmail.com Emang dasar bozz BG geblek...diomongin di OB, sengaja die contrarian.. .Udah deh... kita tutup mulut aja deh...SILENCE IS GOLDEN... Lagian... saham laen banyak yang lebih menarik koq...emang die aje... ? wkwkwk... 2009/6/3 re...@trade funky81.trader@ gmail.com Setuju pak, silent is gold. Kayak dulu pas di harga 1xxx an Sent from TradingBerry®sponsored by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: "Ruz7" Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:57:18 +To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: Re: [ob] fokus BUMI Iya Om ArtoBUMI di Minusin 2%, Indeks turun tajam, pada panic and CL, eh 5 menit mau Clossing di jadiin 2175 lg.BD nya Contrarian terus,,, kita juga keep silent aja kali yah ? Powered By FREN BondBerry. (Bayar Pake Daun). Indeksbei3000® From: artomoro9 Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 17:42:53 +0800 (SGT)To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [ob] fokus BUMI barusan tadi pagi saya masih ngomongin hajatan BUMI, eh malah embah kena gangguan, dan embah pesan gak ngomongin hajatan bumi lagi. selama embah belum kasi WARNING ALERT DI BG, saya akan tenang tenang saja. oot: hari ini bumi kembali ke harga 2175 dan ihsg +12 point. regards, artomoro masih bungkusin kado BG. DISCLAIMER ON the DOW..--- Pada Rab, 3/6/09, Peter Alimin captiva...@live. .com menulis: Dari: Peter Alimin captiva...@live. comTopik: RE: [ob] fokus BUMIKepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 3 Juni, 2009, 2:30 AM Makanya jenderal arto berani (inilah.com/Wirasatr ia) INILAH.COM, Jakarta - Pergerakan saham PT Bumi Resources (BUMI), Rabu (3/6) berpotensi melemah seiring kenaikan signifikan kemarin. Namun investor direkomendasikan buy on weakness untuk saham ini. Pelaku pasar bisa masuk pada level Rp 2.000-2.025. Betrand Raynaldi, analis Panca Global Securities mengatakan, pergerakan saham BUMI hari ini berpeluang turun. Pasalnya, secara teknikal, kenaikan kemarin yang signifikan memancing pelaku pasar melakukan aksi ambil untung. Pada perdagangan kemarin BUMI sempat naik ke level Rp 2.325 per lembar dan kemudian ditutup melemah 25 poin. “Kemungkinan hari ini akan melanjutkan pelemahan kemarin ke level Rp 2.000,” katanya kepada INILAH.COM, di Jakarta, Rabu (3/6). Pada perdagangan sesi pertama, Rabu (3/6) BUMI ditutup stagnan pada Rp 2.175. Harga tertinggi BUMI pada angka Rp 2.250 dan terendah Rp 2.125. Volume transaksi mencapai 526,01 ribu lembar saham senilai Rp 572,2 miliar dan frekuensi 4,205 kali. Untuk BUMI, Betrand merekomendasikan buy jika harga saham produsen batubara thermal ini menyentuh level Rp 2.000 hingga Rp 2.025 per lembar. Betrand memperkirakan BUMI akan turun hingga level support Rp 2.000. Sedangkan level resistan BUMI hari ini berada pada posisi Rp 2.200 meskipun kecenderungannya turun. Pergerakan bursa regional pun berpeluang tidak terlalu berpengaruh besar pada pergerakan BUMI. Pasalnya, bursa regional hari ini bergerak sangat tipis. Nikkei naik sangat tipis 47,35 poin (0,49%) ke level 9,751,66. “Saya pikir tidak terlalu banyak pengaruh,” katanya. Namun, jika bursa regional kebanyakan ditutup positif, meski tipis mungkin itu juga akan menahan pelemahan indeks. “Rekomendasi untuk BUMIbuy on weakness. Saya pikir level Rp 2.000 hingga Rp 2.025 bisa masuk untuk BUMI,” imbuhnya. Bertrand menandaskan lebih baik buy on weakness BUMI atau jual terlebih dahulu, sell on strength seiring potensi terjadinya aksi profit taking. “Tapi untuk trend sepekan ini ini indeks masih menguat. Sementara hari ini, indeks kemungkinan turun, dan BUMI pun juga turun,” imbuhnyaalagi. Bagaimana dengan pengaruh hasil evaluasi Masyarakat Asosiasi Profesi Penilai Indonesia (Mappi) atas akuisisi BUMI sebelumnya? Menurut Betrand, secara psikologis akan berpengaruh ke investor. Namun, jika bicara fundamental sebenarnya tidak banyak berpengaruh. Pasalnya, kalaupun Mappi mengatakan akuisisi itu terlalu mahal, hal itu juga akan menguntungkan BUMI. Jika ternyata kemahalan, Mappi akan merekomendasikan level harga yang wajar.Kemudian, jika BEI membolehkan akuisisi itu, dengan syarat harganya turun, hal itu justru menguntungkan karena harganya yang diturunkan. Jika BUMI tidak mau menurunkan harga akuisisi dan kemudian dibatalkan, itu juga masih menguntungkan BUMI. ”Entah dibatalkan ataupun diteruskan tetap menguntungkan BUMI,” timpalnya. Jika Mappi mengatakan harga akuisisi itu terlalu murah, bagi
Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low
Agree Mbah, second session will be in deeper red compared to first session. Contributed by BUMI and ANTM I guess. (disclaimer;ON) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 5/18/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: Re: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 18, 2009, 4:37 AM - Trend IHSG masih cenderung turun (lihat gambar IHSG) - Tadi pagi Trader masih dipaksa Cut Loss, agar IHSG bisa diangkat. - Meskipun index turun, index dicoba diangkat sebisa mungkin agar bisa dilakukan distribusi lagi. - Jadi GUNAKAN SAJA ayunan keatas sampai dia tidak kuat naik. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, [ M S ] mimpi.saham@ ... wrote: Selama weekend embah banyak sekali posting untuk megetahui apa yang akan terjadi hari ini. Apakah sekarang sudah bisa ditarik kesimpulan? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 03:37:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] Wave 4 is going up from low Wave 4 is going up from low http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg. png
[ob] I'm Telling You, I'm not Joking
Profits are localized, losses are nationalized. Be careful guys! SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 5/11/09, SyIFA Fund syifa.f...@yahoo.com wrote: From: SyIFA Fund syifa.f...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: embah main petak umpet kah? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 11:10 AM Golf stick with two balls and bring us to JAIL. :) (Just Joke Mbah do not blame me V) One of my analyst has warned me about B#$! two working days ago, when IT' s closed to 2000, you should be aware. Some Repos has been done, but some are still stuck and some people that did MARGIN will get hurt. Do not greedy too much on IT. But tomorrow will convince where the market is going on. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 5/11/09, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: embah main petak umpet kah? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 9:51 AM bukannya kaya stik golf... Regards, DE Pada 11 Mei 2009 15:40, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com menulis: tambahan hari ini semua candle kayak hidung Pinokio On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote: Intinya BD kalau mau short bisa tinggal cangcut heheheh, kita jaga2 aja ikutan nebeng 2009/5/11 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Furin Ongko furin.ongko@ ... wrote: *tunggu komando deh makan di angka brapa mbah ? Furin Ongko Jumat sudah distribusi.. . BD 90% duitnya berputar di BUMI. IHSG -21. Kalo BUMI turun, pikir 2x kalo mau beli lagi... BUMI masih 2050 +6,2% Jadi patokannya: LIAT AJA BUMI ...
Re: [ob] Re: embah main petak umpet kah?
Golf stick with two balls and bring us to JAIL. :) (Just Joke Mbah do not blame me V) One of my analyst has warned me about B#$! two working days ago, when IT' s closed to 2000, you should be aware. Some Repos has been done, but some are still stuck and some people that did MARGIN will get hurt. Do not greedy too much on IT. But tomorrow will convince where the market is going on. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 5/11/09, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] Re: embah main petak umpet kah? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, May 11, 2009, 9:51 AM bukannya kaya stik golf... Regards, DE Pada 11 Mei 2009 15:40, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com menulis: tambahan hari ini semua candle kayak hidung Pinokio On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 3:38 PM, James Arifin james.arifin@ gmail.com wrote: Intinya BD kalau mau short bisa tinggal cangcut heheheh, kita jaga2 aja ikutan nebeng 2009/5/11 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Furin Ongko furin.ongko@ ... wrote: *tunggu komando deh makan di angka brapa mbah ? Furin Ongko Jumat sudah distribusi.. . BD 90% duitnya berputar di BUMI. IHSG -21. Kalo BUMI turun, pikir 2x kalo mau beli lagi... BUMI masih 2050 +6,2% Jadi patokannya: LIAT AJA BUMI ...
RE: to Prof.JT - Re: [ob] BUMI lagi murah... !!!!
Done Mr JT Good Job! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 4/22/09, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: to Prof.JT- Re: [ob] BUMI lagi murah... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, April 22, 2009, 7:31 AM BUMI ?? sabar.., biarin aja dulu kasih jalan yg mau keluar… cerita bumi kan masih panjang.., ane tadi pagi sih udah amankan dulu.., alhamdulilah bisa keluar at very good price…, nanti masuk lagi, biarin aja dipentoeng dulu.., ntar kita sikat lagi !! hehe JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of tora Sent: 22 April 2009 14:16 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: to Prof.JT - Re: [ob] BUMI lagi murah... Prof, gimana Prof ngeliat ini ? opportunity ? - Original Message - From: d_rsmawan To: sa...@yahoogroups. com ; obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 2:12 PM Subject: [ob] BUMI lagi murah... BUMI, murah lagi... Pasar merespon agak negatif... Pemilu semakin seru... persaingan semakin ketat, orang indonesia pinter-pinter No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.12.2/2072 - Release Date: 04/21/09 16:48:00
Re: [ob] Bakrie kuasai 25% transaksi saham - NEXT RUN
Next RUN - IDR unexpectedly increased (it seems temporary movement but it is NOT). Keep riskless interest rate @ 7% would be nice. Then welcome the FREE FLOW OF FUND FROM ABROAD. First, IT has been shown in fixed income market and government securities auction where yield has been decreased. After fixed income market and government securities auction have been fixed by fund flow, NOW it's time for stock market fixing. - Commodities movement start from steel then continued by Coal and Oil Gas and others (especially for Oil Gas, recently employment cut off will be bad for production and hopefully decrease in inventory while demand will continue to increase following recovery that will be driven by HUGE stimulus). I've posted long time ago that based on my survey on BIG Oil Gas companies that price of Oil Gas would never touch usd 35. So welcome the RECOVERY. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 4/20/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: Re: [ob] Bakrie kuasai 25% transaksi saham To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, April 20, 2009, 3:47 AM Kalo market udah mau DIAJAK MAEN, harga bisa naik tak tertahan lagi. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Ferry Wachjudi ferry.wachjudi@ ... wrote: berarti si EL sedang di Tokyo nich! Thanks Rgds, Ferry W. http://budidaya- jamur-tiram. blogspot. com/ - Original Message - From: Data Saham To: junior_trader@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 8:18 PM Subject: [ob] Bakrie kuasai 25% transaksi saham Sinarmas menjadi broker beli bersih terbesar saham Bakrie Brothers a.. Cetak JAKARTA: Transaksi tujuh saham yang tergabung dalam Grup Bakrie sepanjang pekan lalu menembus Rp6,23 triliun, atau 25% dari nilai total transaksi saham di bursa Rp24,56 triliun. Berdasarkan statistik Bursa Efek Indonesia (BEI), seluruh saham Grup Bakrie menembus jajaran 10 besar saham dengan volume transaksi terbesar pada sepanjang pekan lalu. Dari segi nilai transaksi, hanya saham Bumi yang masuk 10 besar yang menduduki peringkat pertama karena nilai transaksinya mencapai Rp3,42 triliun, mengalahkan saham PT Telekomunikasi Indonesia Tbk Rp1,63 triliun. Saham PT Bakrie Brothers Tbk mencetak peringkat pertama volume transaksi terbesar setelah pada pekan lalu sebanyak 7,16 miliar saham diperdagangkan. Anak perusahaan Bakrie Brothers lainnya seperti PT Bakrie Telecom Tbk dan PT Darma Henwa Tbk berada di peringkat ketiga dan keempat dengan volume transaksi 5,89 miliar dan 5,44 miliar saham. Saham PT Bakrieland Development Tbk di posisi ketiga dengan volume 4,11 miliar saham, PT Bumi Resources Tbk 3,07 miliar, dan PT Bakrie Sumatera Plantations Tbk 1,75 miliar. Saham PT Energi Mega Persada Tbk berada di urutan kesembilan dengan volume 1,25 miliar saham. Secara total, sebanyak 28,67 miliar saham Grup Bakrie ini diperdagangkan pada pekan lalu senilai Rp6,23 triliun. Jika dibandingkan dengan total transaksi saham di BEI yang mencapai Rp24,56 triliun, ketujuh saham Grup Bakrie menguasai lebih dari 25% nilai transaksi. Direktur Bakrie Brothers Dileep Srivastava mengatakan fundamental saham Bumi dan laju bisnis perseroan menjadi poin terkuat yang mendorong pergerakan saham Grup Bakrie. Laju saham itu terjadi seiring dengan penilaian beberapa pihak bahwa harga saham Bumi masih di bawah parameter valuasi. Saya sedang berada di Tokyo untuk non-deal roadshow dalam pertemuan antara pemegang saham dan investor. Kami melihat bahwa faktor itu yang meningkatkan kepercayaan investor terhadap saham Grup Bakrie, termasuk Bumi, ujar Dileep. Direktur Utama BEI Erry Firmansyah mengatakan sejak dulu saham grup itu memang paling likuid. Sekarang saat kondisi pasar membaik, sahamnya diburu pemodal lagi. Perburuan pemodal itu sempat membangunkan saham Bakrie Brothers dari stagnasinya di level Rp50, level terendah di pasar, yang telah berlangsung sejak 2 Desember 2008. Pada Kamis pekan lalu, secara tiba-tiba harga sahamnya melonjak 36% atau Rp18 ke level Rp68 dengan total transaksi senilai Rp217,81 miliar. Sebelumnya meski stagnan di level Rp50, saham Bakrie Brothers selalu diperdagangkan terutama di pasar negosiasi. Setelah saham holding Bakrie ini bangkit kembali, harga saham anak usahanya kini semakin menggeliat. Data transaksi pekan lalu menunjukkan saham Bakrie Telecom, Energi Mega, dan Darma Henwa juga ikut melonjak 24%, 16%, dan 13%. Analis Bhakti Securities Budi Ruseno mengatakan kenaikan harga saham Bakrie Brothers relatif tertinggal dibandingkan dengan harga saham lain yang lebih dulu naik pada beberapa
Re: [ob] EL saham 50an yang mau ke 100???
Pak JT 's pockets is empty and he mentioned "healthy deep fried (Mbah termination :p)" to be collected...hehe... naughty boy Pak JT :) Regards,SF FM Where you can trust your fund--- On Tue, 4/14/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [ob] EL saham 50an yang mau ke 100???To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Tuesday, April 14, 2009, 10:19 AM JT sudah mention the stocks, nanti yangkut you can timpuk saja si JT.. lolz..Elaine On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 3:18 PM, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: My hand is full EL…, ini beneran BOW sampe BOWKE…, got no more cash…, celengan dah di Bobok…, Cuma margin yg belum dikerahin..., tunggu 1600.., will trade at full margin… Saham gocapan gacoan ane…, DEWA, BTEL, KIJA, TRUB.., and of course BUMI hehehe.. JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui Sent: 14 April 2009 14:45 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] EL saham 50an yang mau ke 100??? Just pick the most liquid ones. JT please assist, Elaine sedang mau meeting. Elaine On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Mo Cuan syarif...@yahoo. com wrote: EL, Please pick the 50's which will be rocketed to 100 in the very near future... CNKO, SIPD, BTEL,TRUB,KIJA etc?? +++ mo cuan ngikut EL aja dehsoalnya ATT tuh (akurasi tingkat tinggi) hehehe... No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.287 / Virus Database: 270.11.54/2056 - Release Date: 04/13/09 17:56:00
Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan index
So impatient of you :) Regards,SF FMWhere you can trust your fund--- On Wed, 4/8/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.com wrote:From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [ob] BD mencoba menahan indexTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, April 8, 2009, 7:52 AM BUY Bukit Asam lolz.. Elaine2009/4/8 agung39 agun...@yahoo. com PTBA jadi penahan indexs... Sudah mulai ijo dikit dikit... Kayaknya jangan diomongin ya, ntar dibatalin :) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, "Yudizz" y_d...@... wrote: Ah nggak juga... Saya trader tapi masih ada posisi 75%. Kalo udah winning position mah enak2 aja sih. Jangan lihat index, lihat per saham aja. Sekarang saya lagi kejar setora nih, kayaknya kalo index beneran duduk manis di atas 1600 saya mau inject dana. Happy cuan, Yudizz Send from My BlackBearish powerred by AXIS, GSM Yang Baik - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: mailto:obrolan-bandar- dig...@yahoogrou ps.com mailto:obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: obrolan-bandar- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/
Re: [ob] PTBA
It's not necessarily for you to do ave up...actually you can do ave down. We're just postponed to hike IT up before gen election. after gen election, the wave will be confirmed our movement in IT. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 4/7/09, Halim Perdana ir_r...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Halim Perdana ir_r...@yahoo.com Subject: [ob] PTBA To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 2:47 AM Pak JT dan senior lain, PTBA bisa ditunggu diberapa untuk ave up?
Re: [ob] bukit asam manis - Before and After
Kinda like itlike itbuy..buyRegards,SF FMWhere you can trust your fund--- On Fri, 4/3/09, Kevin Hogan kvn...@gmail.com wrote:From: Kevin Hogan kvn...@gmail.comSubject: Re: [ob] bukit asam manis - Before and AfterTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Friday, April 3, 2009, 8:09 AM PTBA ini saham yg paling sip. Numpang lagi ah di 7000. Terus tarik yah BD nanti di 7500. AsoyOn Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 2:42 PM, rad10 ru54k tv.k...@gmail. com wrote: Komporin PTBA… klo BD nya gak mau naekin,… mending komporin retail aja copetin BD bareng2. PTBA Presentation March 2009 Friday, March 27, 2009 Total Revenue FY08 increased by 75% YoY to IDR 7.2 trillions. Net Profit FY08 increased by 135% YoY to IDR 1.71 trillions. Sales volume FY08 increased by 18% YoY to 12.8 million tons Coal transportation in FY08 increased by 29% YoY to 10.3 million tons Production volume FY08 increased by 16% YoY to 10.8 million tons. Target sales volume FY09 increased by 19% to 14.5 million tons. The increase in the existing railway transportation capacity and the increase in coal trading volume are major factors for growth in short-term. Mine mouth power plant and new railway transportation projects are major factors for growth in medium and long-term. 65% owned by government, free float 35% Record level of dividend of 50% since 2001 From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 10:48 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: RE: [ob] bukit asam manis - Before and After PTBA UPDATE 10.48 wib - Close diatas 7150 dengan heavy volume should trigger up move…, Good Luck JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: 31 Maret 2009 10:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Cc: jsxtra...@yahoogrou ps.com Subject: RE: [ob] bukit asam manis Tunggu di 6500-6600 aja.., target terdekat 7150.., kalau sekarang risk reward fifity-fifty. ., break and close 7150 (trigger buy) dengan volume diatas rata-rata, bisa average up and ride to 7500…, will have a closer look later on. JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: 31 Maret 2009 10:07 To: ob Subject: [ob] bukit asam manis dear all, especially prof JT. sekarang jam 10.04 ,ptba 6850. ihsg 1444. minta tolong prof JT menerawang project saya di PTBA tp sekitar 7500 an. apakah ada gangguan cukup berarti selama beberapa hari terakhir?? trims.. DISCLAIMER ONtheway No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.11.31/2029 - Release Date: 03/30/09 17:56:00
Re: [ob] Ask about technical correction - THE CHOICE ?
It's just a matter of time Mbah. I think it just too late to buy anything for now (but who' know what'll be happened tomorrow) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Thu, 4/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: Re: [ob] Ask about technical correction - THE CHOICE ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, April 2, 2009, 8:16 AM Inflow/ouflow tidak selalu sama dengan BULLISH... Tapi kalo BD mau jualan, market HARUS BULLISH !!! - Kalo anda percaya BD mau jualan maka market PASTI BULISH - Kalo anda percaya BD masih mau belanja, index bisa turun lagi. Anda pilih yg mana ?. Note: - Yg penting sore ini harus NGEJOZZ, EL bener lagi... hehehe... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Massive inflows? So what I heard is true. That means no more crash (correction is ok of course) then hehe Elaine? What do you think... I keep on buying, well actually almost done. On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 3:04 PM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ... wrote: Elaine vs Technicalists (except trainers [?]) 2:0 *No, I don't have to wait until market is closed. I've told you that we'd see massive inflows. Elaine* On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ... wrote: Elaine vs Technicalists (aka losers by nature) 1:0 *Elaine* On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 8:17 AM, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ... wrote: *Today is the day. I see all of the responders were expecting a correction (while I'm expecting to get big gain in 2 days). Elaine mau tahu how effective their prediction is against mine. Elaine* * * On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Ferry Wachjudi ferry.wachjudi@ wrote: kemarin bilangnya dlm 2 hari bisa untung 30%, sekarang sudah lain lagi . Thanks Rgds, Ferry W. http://budidaya- jamur-tiram. blogspot. com/ - Original Message - *From:* Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ... *To:* obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com *Sent:* Monday, March 30, 2009 10:52 PM *Subject:* [ob] Ask about technical correction *Dear all, from your technical perspective, is it acceptable to have a correction this week? (means most trader should be in cash/short position now). Thanks. Elaine*
Re: [ob] P.JT : Napa PTBA di tahan abiz ?
We've been with this stock since 2003 and it's priced 1800 only by the market. One lesson that we'd learned until now. Buy them at rationally LOW Price and take your time wait so you can see how WILD its movement. Have a nice ride. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 3/24/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [ob] P.JT : Napa PTBA di tahan abiz ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 11:43 AM Hold lamaan aja pak...this is a good stock! Recommended by experts juga (bukan saya lho)... 2009/3/24 rad10 ru54k tv.k...@gmail. com Orang sabar disayang Elaine loh pak toto…. Hahhaahhaaa… Buktinya INCO tuuh… 5 hari bolak balik 2100-2150 and every single day close at 2125. Hari ini sapa yg sangka INCO ngamuk… sepertinya besok INCO bakalan lanjut lagi niih. Liat volume yg segede gaban, hampir 6X lipat volume kemaren. Pak rei,… ane temanin PTBAnya dah… Mudah2an besok giliran PTBA dibuat orgasm sama non Elaine… Hehehe….. @Elaine… I could’ve easily kissed you rite now!! Mercy mon’ami!!! sm;)e From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Rei Sent: Tuesday, March 24, 2009 5:31 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [ob] P.JT : Napa PTBA di tahan abiz ? Gak apa...dah biasa...give me! 2009/3/24 toto aja tototj...@gmail. com yakin mau pada beli PTBA ? ntar ikutan pegel kyq saya liatin yang lain terbang PTBA jalan di tempat. 2009/3/24 Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Saya gak nimpukin koq...malah mau nambah lagi kalo harga bagus. On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:12 PM, ruzli indeksbei3000@ gmail.com wrote: Pak Halim dan Pak Rei INPEST ... INPEST ...INPEST PAK :) Pada 24 Maret 2009 15:07, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2000@ yahoo.com menulis: kalo saya jadi pak Halim... hajar dulu 7050.. banyak yg membayangi.. . hehehehehehehe PEACE Pak HALIM.. Joking! Thank You! ThomaS FredericK --- On Tue, 3/24/09, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo. com Subject: RE: [ob] P.JT : Napa PTBA di tahan abiz ? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, March 24, 2009, 3:03 AM Hadohh Pak…, kenapa baru mau masuk sekarang, dari kemarin kan dah sering di posting ttg PTBA waktu di 6500’an.., rasanya saya sempet post trigger buy-nya kalau close diatas 6750…, kalau sekarang mah Pak Halim and Pak Rei udh siap-siap nimpukin tuh…. Hahaha.., coba tanya Pak Halim, masih aman ngga kalau masuk di 6950.. JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Dvc Mm Sent: 24 Maret 2009 14:37 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [ob] P.JT : Napa PTBA di tahan abiz ? Pd saat BC berlomba2 ke kutub utara, Bozz rasanya gak rela kalo PTBA ikutan. Mohon diintipin dunk, entry yg pas di brp? Thx - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links (Yahoo! ID required) http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: Tolong intipin BISI, apa sudah bisa j ump in?
They just dumped IT down, so we can get more and more each day...hehe Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sat, 3/21/09, Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaysta...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: Tolong intipin BISI, apa sudah bisa j ump in? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:43 AM Yes kong...pokoknya kalo saya (trader tentu beda ya krn mereka harus lbh gesit jadi gak boleh sampai nyangkut dan disamping itu juga tdk boleh sampai ketinggalan kereta jadi penentuan entry/exit level itu sangat sulit. Kalo kita lain kong, buy when there is fear asalkan saham yg dibeli bukan saham bagong hehe 2009/3/20 SbudianaYCS sbudi...@yahoo. com.sg Rei, Itu teori paling benar, sy jg pake cara itu. Good Luck Always, SB Sent from my BlackBerry ® wireless device From: Rei Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 15:37:52 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: Tolong intipin BISI, apa sudah bisa j ump in? Yg pasti lagi ada sesuatu nih di Ptba, entah apa maunya bandar... Saya sih masuk aja, ntar turun masuk lagi...sabar aja :) 2009/3/19 Yudizz y_d...@mail2web. com Bukannya kata berita kemarin, asing banyak yang berminat waktu YU ngajak PTBA roadshow ke Amerika..?? Aah, lagi2 fucking with fundamental. . Regards, Yudizz Send from My BlackBearish powerred by AXIS, GSM Yang Baik --- original message --- From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: Tolong intipin BISI, apa sudah bisa jump in? Date: 19th March 2009 Time: 3:30:05 pm Hari ini sih belum ngetes ya pak, gak tahu deh kalo besok (Jum'at lho)... semoga mental. Ada berita apa soh Ptba kalo asing getol banget buang. 2009/3/19 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo. com Yup..., mudah2an OB'er ngga ada yg main asal tubruk aja., btw, PTBA juga agak mengkhawatirkan ya.., let see 6450 jebol ngga, sementara jangan ada yg masuk dulu..., kita liat powernya saat tes 6450 JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com[mailto: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Paulus Tangke Allo Sent: 19 Maret 2009 15:19 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT: Tolong intipin BISI, apa sudah bisa jump in? dan kelihatannya volumenya lebih besar daripada volume waktu nembus resistan (sekitar tanggal 18 desember-an) . jadi emang beneran serem yah.. --pta 2009/3/19 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo. com jsxtrader%40yahoo.com: 15.10 Wib Support ngga kuat nahan harga, jebol dengan Volume…, hindari dulu deh. JT
Re: [obrolan-bandar] coal price turun ke 65.32 di globalcoal
Coal is REALLY still attractive for us Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 3/4/09, ruzli indeksbei3...@gmail.com wrote: From: ruzli indeksbei3...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] coal price turun ke 65.32 di globalcoal To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, March 4, 2009, 12:59 AM Rabu, 2009 Maret 04 Associated Press Coal companies shares up at the close of trading Shares of some top coal companies were up at the close of trading: Arch Coal rose $.65 or 5.4 percent, to $12.66. Consol Energy rose $.99 or 4.4 percent, to $23.57. Massey Energy rose $.29 or 2.9 percent, to $10.25. Peabody Energy rose $1.21 or 5.9 percent, to $21.64. 2009/3/1 artomoro9 artomo...@yahoo. co.id: harga coal di : http://www.globalco al.com/news/ coalnews. cfm 27-Feb-09 = 65.32 apa yang akan terjadi pada saham berbasis COAL..?? ptbukitasam, indotambang, indika energy, adaro, and BUMI...?? tambahan : Indonesia says January coal exports seen down 35 pct Indonesia exported an estimated 8.82 million tonnes of coal in January, down 35 percent from 13.51 million tonnes in December 2008, trade ministry data showed on Wednesday. Reuters - 11-Feb-09 DISCLAIMER ONthe way.. _ _ __ Lebih bergaul dan terhubung dengan lebih baik. Tambah lebih banyak teman ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FAT BOY PART 2 (Alert for Little Ratu Sima)
Touch the Untouchable, See the Unseen, Beat the Unbeaten and then Hook the Sky Up. That's how we did our last job Sir. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 2/27/09, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FAT BOY PART 2 (Alert for Little Ratu Sima) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 10:04 AM Yes Sir, saya juga gak berani msk dilevel ini.., too risky lah, volumenya jg biasa2 aja..., saya tunggu dibawah atau setelah break 1250 aja..., td saya cuma ingin sampaikan dan tunjukan bahwa candle stick bisa 'mengecoh' jika kita tidak melihat isi dari candle tsb .. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: datasahamku datasaha...@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 09:56:53 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: FAT BOY PART 2 (Alert for Little Ratu Sima) kemungkinan masih akan naik tipis setelah itu hati2 krn bisa jadi PT.. klo lihat RR-nya blm berani masuk pak soalnya dah ketinggalan kreta :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, JsxTrader jsxtra...@... wrote: I double check EL., technically speaking we can say ANTM close at 1230., Hanya 13 lot yg bikin ANTM close 1200.., compare to buy order at 1230, it is very insignificant.., jadi yg terekam di chart bisa kita diabaikan.. Harusnya terbentuk Candle bullish engulfing. Have a nice weekend. JT From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: 27 Februari 2009 16:15 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] FAT BOY PART 2 (Alert for Little Ratu Sima) NO WORRY my EL.., practically ANTM TUTUP ATAS., Cuma kalah cepet sama timpukan 1 lot doang., insignificant., so we can say ANTM close at 1230 !! JT From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Elaine Sui Sent: 27 Februari 2009 16:05 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FAT BOY PART 2 (Alert for Little Ratu Sima) Ouch, that was close. Should've closed at 1230. Elaine On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@... wrote: you mean gold miners as like antm el? Thank You! Error! Filename not specified. ThomaS FredericK --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Elaine Sui elainesu...@... wrote: From: Elaine Sui elainesu...@... Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] FAT BOY PART 2 (Alert for Little Ratu Sima) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 27, 2009, 2:43 AM lol I don't think anyone has followed me, except that lucky bastard 'Boys and Girls' , he wants volume, I'll give him volume. It should be clear now why I have to short financials. When both hands are full, we're set and ready to fly. Come fly with me. Anyway, today's just a small gift from me for this weekend. IDX is red, I know, but there will be another gift, so relax. Anyone have faith with this cute Gold Miners of mine? Elaine 2009/2/27 Mo Cuan syarif...@yahoo. mailto:syarif...@... com Salut !!! timing nya passektor pas...stock pick tidak diragukan... HEBRING EUY! mo cuan udah jualan gak sampe mentok AR :) --- On Fri, 2/27/09, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com mailto:elainesu...@... wrote: From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ mailto:elainesu...@... gmail.com Damn I'm good. Elaine No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1974 - Release Date: 02/26/09 14:51:00 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.3/1974 - Release Date: 02/26/09 14:51:00 + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?
Too many diversification will kill you Change one thing to change everything Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Iwan iwa...@indosat.net.id wrote: From: Iwan iwa...@indosat.net.id Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:14 AM susah tau, dapat 75 di INCO, hilang 50 di BBRI, cuan 25 dipotong komisi, habi - Original Message - From: artomoro9 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? cari recehan masih bisa kok DISCLAIMER ONthe way --- Pada Rab, 25/2/09, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo. com Topik: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 25 Februari, 2009, 11:59 PM Cakep !! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: ron sur Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:55:41 +0800 (SGT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Mbah BBCA udah mulai naik --- Pada Rab, 25/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 25 Februari, 2009, 11:41 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dario kurniawan darioamran1976@ ... wrote: mbah udah give up ama market ?? Ini pertanyaan orang ama embah... Embah merasa pertanyaan ini sebaiknya dijawab bersama sama. Dari jawaban2 yg masuk yg tentunya BERBEDA BEDA, yg berkepentingan bisa mengambil DECISION. Dario Amran --- Pada Kam, 26/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 26 Februari, 2009, 2:18 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Kidod25 kidod25@ wrote: PER BUMI udah 1 mbah, mau ke 0,01??? he he he Apakah anda menyarankan LIWKIDASI semua kecuali BUMI ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Ada yg tanya seperti begini, ini pertanyaan yg sangat penting, jadi embah lemparkan aja ke floor biar dibahas bersama sama: Kapan investor balik ke BEI ?: - 31 Maret 09, penyampaian lap keuangan final 2008, IHSG akan bergejolak karena banyak laporan keuangan yg akan mirip INCO dan BDMN yang performancenya jatuh pada Q4 terutama emiten sektor commodity. - 30 April penyampaian lap keuangan Q1 2009, IHSG kembali bergejolak karena: - Performance Q1/2009 akan jatuh BANGET dibanding Q1/2008 terutama sektor commodity. - Dampak resesi global akan NAMPAK pada laporan Q1/2009. - Minggu kedua April ada pemilu legislatif, investor akan wait and see. Apakah Investor akan mulai masuk ke BEI pada pertengahan April sesudah pemilu ?. Pada saat ini mungkin sudah jelas apakah DOW akan kelevel 6000 ? dan apakah IHSG balik kelevel 900 ?. Gimana menurut teman2 ?. Apakah sesudah pemilu presiden bulan September ?. Tapi ini kejauhan, mungkin Dow udah rebound dari LOWnya saat itu
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?
Still hold but not too much anymore Mbah (we're rebalancing portfolio right now)hit and hold for a week and RUN for another week (HIT RUN but in weekly)...but we still believe that for current condition, holding cash is better than holding stocks. Obama influence is not as strong as it seems (or else it can be said OVER). One suggestion from us: Too many diversification will kill you! Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Thu, 2/26/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:52 AM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, SyIFA Fund syifa.fund@ ... wrote: Too many diversification will kill you Change one thing to change everything Bagaimana para Hedge Fund, apakah TERPAKSA tidak likwidasi karena kalo dilikwidasi, bubaran dong Fundnya... becanda... Gimana insight anda ?. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Thu, 2/26/09, Iwan iwa...@... wrote: From: Iwan iwa...@... Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Thursday, February 26, 2009, 8:14 AM  susah tau, dapat 75 di INCO, hilang 50 di BBRI, cuan 25 dipotong komisi, habi  - Original Message - From: artomoro9 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 3:06 PM Subject: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? cari recehan masih bisa kok DISCLAIMER ONthe way --- Pada Rab, 25/2/09, JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JsxTrader™ jsxtra...@yahoo. com Topik: Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 25 Februari, 2009, 11:59 PM Cakep !! Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® From: ron sur Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2009 15:55:41 +0800 (SGT) To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Mbah BBCA udah mulai naik --- Pada Rab, 25/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id Topik: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Rabu, 25 Februari, 2009, 11:41 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, dario kurniawan darioamran1976@ ... wrote: mbah udah give up ama market ?? Ini pertanyaan orang ama embah... Embah merasa pertanyaan ini sebaiknya dijawab bersama sama. Dari jawaban2 yg masuk yg tentunya BERBEDA BEDA, yg berkepentingan bisa mengambil DECISION. Dario Amran --- Pada Kam, 26/2/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... menulis: Dari: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... Topik: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 26 Februari, 2009, 2:18 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Kidod25 kidod25@ wrote: PER BUMI udah 1 mbah, mau ke 0,01??? he he he Apakah anda menyarankan LIWKIDASI semua kecuali BUMI ? --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ? Ada yg tanya seperti begini, ini pertanyaan yg sangat penting, jadi embah lemparkan aja ke floor biar dibahas bersama
Re: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar]DJI False Break mulu?
But their rebound is REALLY supported by the volume, will see that AGAIN tonight...BERNANKE has called me up last night ,,,and his statement will be used to leverage the market UP. Hopefully. BTW, where will our ANTM move today? Pak JT, sorry for not let ANTM below 10X0 as you want :) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 2/24/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar]DJI False Break mulu? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 24, 2009, 11:29 PM Volatilitas saham Bank US sangat EXTRIM !!! Terlampir grafik Bank of America, Citigroup dan index perbankan US.. http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ usindex.png --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Boys n Girls boysngirls@ ... wrote: tegang amat sih... enjoy aja masa sih BEI berani gap up 2% ha.ha... kalau bener mah timpuk aja... anyway..kalau coal rally. aku rasa bukan BUMI yang bikin orang senyum betul gak pak JT.. kemarin sudah pas bener kan ... apalagi kalau pakai scale exponential. .. hari ini bisa terbang tuh. the forgotten stock :D ha.ha. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:57 AM, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: Index batubara US naik +11,4% tadi malam... BUMI akan VOLATILE pagi ini... Internet/OLT bakal problem FOR SURE --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, anru.sing@ wrote: Siapa berani bilang nanti ihsg bakal hijau. Ayo siapa? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: \::Pak_AA: \: abdul.rahman. rahim@ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:05:58 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Subject: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI False Break mulu? DJI tutup 3,3% pak JT Yg sempet pasang ember Selasa panen de On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:48 PM, JsxTrader™ jsxtrader@ wrote: Wow, barusan sempet intip dow sdh +176..., hmmm, apakah kemari false breakdown juga? Hanya ngerjain yg pasang stop loss? Waulahualam, tapi katanya sih, kalau important low gagal di test, it's bullish... Smoga kuat sampe closing... Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! -Original Message- From: Bill isxtrader@ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:05:07 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI False Break mulu? Wah, ini sih namanya ujian he...he...he. ... Saya yakin Pak JT yg legendaris sudah cukup mengerti. Suatu kehormatan dan senang berkenalan dengan anda Pak. Maksud saya sederhana saja, Di DJI kebanyakan trader sudah tahu bahwa titik stop loss harus ditaruh di titik2 yang tidak umum dan cenderung agak menjauh dari titik breakout. Unfortunately the other side know as well. So both the hunters and the sitting ducks know... Nah mungkin (sekali lagi mungkin, karena saya yakin Pak hmin yang sarat pengalaman juga sudah mengerti) saat perburuan stop loss itu sering dikira sebagai breakout. Pengecualian kalau PPT sedang beraksi :) Mudah2an jawaban saya yang pemula dan baru belajar ini mendapat nilai yang bagus..he..he. .he... - Original Message - From: JsxTrader™ jsxtrader@ To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 1:48 AM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI False Break mulu? Boleh di share lebih jauh lagi Pak Bill.., kurang begitu nangkep saya. Thanks Pak. Regards, JT
RE: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar]DJI False Break mulu?
Pak JThow bout pickpocketing ANTM?hehe Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 2/25/09, JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar]DJI False Break mulu? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2009, 4:05 AM Bottom terbentuk karena seller (tekanan jual) berkurang, bukan karena buyer (minat beli) tambah banyak…, kalau case ihsg hari ini saya pikir karena banyakan yg jualan, yg beli bukan gak ada, cuma udah pada pinter-pinter nawar boss…, maunya diskon abis, apalagi trader wanita kaya Neng Feli an Bu Fifi…., hahaha.. canda ya Ibu-ibu… Ntar sore juga rasanya naik lah…, Cuma temporary SD imbalance aja…., biasa, BD juga kan Trader…, even Mbah sekarang juga Trading….ya kan Mbah?…. hehehe… JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: 25 Februari 2009 10:52 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI False Break mulu? Pak JT, nanya aja nih.. IHSG turun lagi pdhl dow ijo tebel, ini karena kekurangan buyer apa kebanyakan seller? Regards, DE 2009/2/25 JsxTrader jsxtra...@yahoo. com Udaahhh Mbah... jangan Cuma rekomendasi, teriak serbu aja buat BBRI, mantep tuh Hehehe, ngomporin.com JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 25 Februari 2009 9:26 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com Subject: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI False Break mulu? Pak Halim, Jangan takut ngasih rekomendasi kemilis... Kalo takut terus, kapan bisa sharing kemilis.. Santai aja, nih embah sharing BBRI --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com, JsxTraderâ„¢ jsxtra...@.. . wrote: Siap boss.., hehe.., ouii teman2, Pak Hamim lagi punya barang bagus tuh.., coba tanya2hahaha Gosipbanget. com. Powered by Telkomsel BlackBerry® -Original Message- From: Boys n Girls boysngi...@. .. Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:23:58 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com Subject: Re: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI False Break mulu? tegang amat sih... enjoy aja masa sih BEI berani gap up 2% ha.ha... kalau bener mah timpuk aja... anyway..kalau coal rally. aku rasa bukan BUMI yang bikin orang senyum betul gak pak JT.. kemarin sudah pas bener kan ... apalagi kalau pakai scale exponential. .. hari ini bisa terbang tuh. the forgotten stock :D ha.ha. On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 5:57 AM, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: Index batubara US naik +11,4% tadi malam... BUMI akan VOLATILE pagi ini... Internet/OLT bakal problem FOR SURE --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, anru.sing@ wrote: Siapa berani bilang nanti ihsg bakal hijau. Ayo siapa? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT -Original Message- From: \::Pak_AA:\: abdul.rahman. rahim@ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:05:58 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Subject: DJI closed +3,3% Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI False Break mulu? DJI tutup 3,3% pak JT Yg sempet pasang ember Selasa panen de On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 8:48 PM, JsxTrader™ jsxtrader@ wrote: Wow, barusan sempet intip dow sdh +176..., hmmm, apakah kemari false breakdown juga? Hanya ngerjain yg pasang stop loss? Waulahualam, tapi katanya sih, kalau important low gagal di test, it's bullish... Smoga kuat sampe closing... Sent from my BlackBerry(R) smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! -Original Message- From: Bill isxtrader@ Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2009 02:05:07 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. .com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] DJI False Break mulu? Wah, ini sih namanya ujian he...he...he. ... Saya yakin Pak JT yg legendaris sudah cukup mengerti. Suatu kehormatan dan senang berkenalan dengan anda Pak. Maksud saya sederhana saja, Di DJI kebanyakan trader sudah tahu bahwa titik stop loss harus ditaruh di titik2 yang tidak umum dan cenderung agak menjauh dari titik breakout. Unfortunately the other side know as well. So both the hunters and the sitting ducks know... Nah mungkin (sekali lagi mungkin, karena saya yakin Pak hmin yang sarat pengalaman juga sudah mengerti) saat perburuan stop loss itu sering dikira sebagai breakout. Pengecualian kalau PPT sedang beraksi :) Mudah2an jawaban saya yang pemula
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI technical sesi 1, The TRUTH is unveiled... (Buat Lalat muda !!!)
Yes...after trading session and completing BUY/SELL is a good choice of time to speak out loud Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 2/20/09, cakt...@gmail.com cakt...@gmail.com wrote: From: cakt...@gmail.com cakt...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI technical sesi 1, The TRUTH is unveiled... (Buat Lalat muda !!!) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 5:54 AM Walah kok pake kode2an sgalaapa tuh yg lagi dipanasin... kali aja bisa bantu manasin.Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: JT Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2009 20:47:57 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI technical sesi 1, The TRUTH is unveiled... (Buat Lalat muda !!!) Gak bakal sepi lah, kan bisa diskusi topic yg lain…, tapi yg dihindari ngomongin technical trading (saat trading hour), misalnya CL di XX, buy di XX, sell di XX, next test XX, support di XX, awas ada signal reversal !!, etc…etc, pokoke yg bersifat taktis lah… Lagian kalau bikin analisa ditengah jalankan secara teknis kan memang kurang valid, karena yg dianggap valid adalah harga closing…., TA’er tau itu, masalahnya newbie belum tentu paham, ntar main tubruk aja repot, padahal chart-nya “belum jadi” … hehe…, iya kalau cuan gak apa, kalau nyangkut kite yg gak enak…, ntar dibilang ngebanyol.., tulisannya pake emoticon orang ketawa segala lagi… hahaha BTW, jadi motor gede mau main nih… hehe, boleh makan kanan apa ngantri boss? Advise dong….. JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf Of artomoro9 Sent: 19 Februari 2009 18:59 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI technical sesi 1, The TRUTH is unveiled... (Buat Lalat muda !!!) saya setuju mr JT, saya juga akan kurangi posting yg sekiranya nanti malah jadi flood di milis ob. ini warung yg semua orang liat dan baca. contoh : kebon saya di serang HAMA hahahhaha... ... gagal panen jadinya. btw : apakah dengan pernyataan prof JT ini, warung akan sepi??? warung boleh sepi tapi market akan selalu ada keramaian. bumi...?? upp. hampir keceplosan lagi. regards, artomoro ( lagi istirahat maculi kebon, bruuum brm, lagi manasin motor gede, mau keliling desa aja dulu) --- Pada Kam, 19/2/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Topik: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI technical sesi 1, The TRUTH is unveiled... (Buat Lalat muda !!!) Kepada: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Kamis, 19 Februari, 2009, 3:00 AMBener banget itu Mbah.., apalagi saat ini saya pikir hampir semua orang trading, mungkin termasuk si BOZZ juga..., Jadi memang TAKTIK trading sebaiknya tidak diungkapkan di milis, jadi saya rasa sebaiknya kita UNDERGROUND dulu lah, sampai situasi membaik. Mengenai HEXA kemarin, saya hanya jawab pertanyaan seseorang, ternyata direspond dan di counter sama BD. Kedepannya saya hanya akan jawab pertanyaan teman-teman setelah sesi trading selesai, agar tidak mengganggu yg punya hajat. Pemahaman TA yg tidak sama seringkali juga menimbulkan salah interpretasi dan malah bisa menjerumuskan, ini yg saya tidak mau. Contohnya ‘next test’.., sering kali diartikan sebagai ‘target’, padahal jelas maksudnya bukan itu.., jadi kedepannya kita akan kurangi analisa atau statement saat trading hour sedang berjalan, ini untuk menghindari lalat2 muda kesundut running trade.., hehe Rgds, JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps..com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 19 Februari 2009 16:37 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI technical sesi 1, The TRUTH is unveiled (Buat Lalat muda !!!) Medan perang BURSA merupakan medan perang yg SANGAT DINAMIS. TAKTIK MUSLIHAT merupakan senjata yg paling canggih untuk MENGECOH dan mengalahkan lawan Sesuatu taktik yg diexpose dimilis akan mengakibatkan perubahan taktik yg sedang dijalankan. Jadi soal HEXA itu engga perlu dibicarain nanti pak Oentoeng bisa ketawa terbahak bahak. Contoh taktik perang bursa (BD's EXIT STRATEGY): - Anggap si Aimee BENAR ketika dia bilang bursa bakal ancur. TAPI faktanya bisa terjadi kejadian yg SEBALIKNYA. Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail. com.. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.237 / Virus Database: 270.11.0/1959 - Release Date: 02/18/09 20:55:00
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today?
It can't through that number i think, it's just too late...you can get a good bargain at 1100 this morning actually but you don't. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 2/17/09, thom chris thom_chris2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: thom chris thom_chris2...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 4:01 AM 1040?.. hehe --- On Mon, 2/16/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 9:31 PM Blom ada signal apa-apa pak, lagi akumulasi berat kayaknya.., liat aja tuh riset pada downgrade.., jd masih belum mau jalan lah, ntar kalau udh selesai baru dikeluarin berita2 bagus. Sementara saya tunggu di 10x0.. Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by ISATFrom: charles2416 Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 08:28:29 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM today? Prof JT, ANTM gimana yah hari ini? Last 2 days, Harga turun, Volume juga ikut nyusut. Apa artinya? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.24/1954 - Release Date: 2/15/2009 6:09 PM
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI (TP Rp550) - Merrill Lynch: 4Q08 results preview
Yes Mama Loren (ML) want to buy them cheapso, are you gonna give them to Mama Loren? Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 2/17/09, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.com wrote: From: simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI (TP Rp550) - Merrill Lynch: 4Q08 results preview To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, saham yahoogroups sa...@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2009, 5:11 AM Maaf Mama lagi cari barang murah neh.Jadi yg percaya silahkan apalagi mau buang barang. FY08 results likely below our expectations Bumi is expected to release its fully audited FY08 results on 31 March. We expect EBITDA to grow 210% to US$1.47bn and net profit 136% to US$700mn. However, we sense BUMI's operating income will come in below our and market's expectations (US$1.3bn) due to sales-volume slippage, as well as rising demurrage and commission fees. This is likely to be offset by a lower tax rate. Operating performance could be below our expectations The main culprits we see are slippage in sales volume and higher costs due to rising demurrage and commission fees, which are likely to offset falling diesel prices. Some 1-2 shipments deferrals and a breakdown in ship loaders were reported in 4Q. In addition, we could see a higher demurrage fee due to heavy rainfall. We see potential volume slippage up to 4mn t and higher sales/GA expense by roughly US$3/t. Lower tax rate offers potential silver lining Historically, the company has booked a lower tax rate due to accumulated losses carried forward. For instance, up to 9M08, it booked an accumulated fiscal loss of US$88mn, mainly due to a US$113mn loss carry-forward. We believe this trend is likely to be sustained this year, which points to a positive deferred tax, and hence a lower tax rate. We have assumed an effective tax rate of 25%. 2009 estimates look a tad aggressive compared with 2008 We expect Bumi to expand its sales volume from 52mn t (after factoring in the volume slippage) in 2008 to 58mn t in 2009. This is while there is rising concern over L/C requirements and a global decline in coal demand. Before a new trade policy on L/C requirement took effect on 5 January, we believe none of Bumi's customers were required to pay through L/C. This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient please telephone or e-mail the sender and delete this message and all attachments from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or any attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, error-free or virus-free. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors, omissions or consequences which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. This message is provided for informational purposes and is not intended to nor will it create any binding legal relations. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Pilihan
Don't you put ANTM on the list? Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Unto Tjahjono unto.tjahj...@mail2web.com wrote: From: Unto Tjahjono unto.tjahj...@mail2web.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Saham Pilihan To: Obrolan Bandar @ obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 3:30 AM BBRI, BDMN, BLTA, BMRI, HEXA, UNTR, JPRS, SMGR, LTLS, SOBI. Mohon pencerahan mengenai saham tsb diatas u minggu ini. Tks. powered by strawberry@ Nokia 6220
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM (TP Rp900) - Merrill Lynch: Potential difficulties offset attractive price
Ohh...ML just CAUTIOUS like usual. Underground mining is difficult?come onML analyst should go to Aceh and Kalimantan and should see that underground mining is no longer difficult...just hire the Australian to do that. And IF you guys carefully read this ML analyst report, you can see too many conflicts in her writing. That make me CAUTIOUS also..hehe...PEACE. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 2/16/09, simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.com wrote: From: simon bolenang simon_bolen...@yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM (TP Rp900) - Merrill Lynch: Potential difficulties offset attractive price To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, saham yahoogroups sa...@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 5:46 AM Muted reaction to recent gold asset acquisition ANTM has signed a Heads of Agreement to transfer ownership of PT Cibaliung Sumber Daya (CSD) from Arc Exploration to ANTM. ANTM will settle Arc's US$8mn debt to ANZ. The move should effectively make ANTM the sole owner of the undeveloped Cibaliung gold mine, in which CSD has a 95% stake. While we think the price is attractive, our reaction is muted given past project delays and mining difficulty. Mining is by underground cut-and-fill stoping with decline access. Cibaliung mining not straightforward, in our view True, ANTM might get Cibaliung for a cheap price: US$8mn for a 95% stake in Cibaliung, which has 412,000 oz reserves (US$20.4/oz) . And we understand Arc has spent a substantial amount to develop the mine. However, considering project commissioning has been delayed for around two years on capex overrun, some financing difficulty and some development phase delays, we are now at the wait and see stage. ANTM is targeting to spend an additional US$35-40mn to bring it into operation in 2H10. ANTM still largely a nickel company after the acquisition We view Cibaliung more as a replacement for ANTM's Pongkor gold mine rather than a significant addition. As of December 2007, Pongkor gold reserve was 742,750 oz, which we estimate can last for another 3-4 years based on historical peak production. By 2011 we expect ANTM to still be largely a nickel producer, with nickel contributing about 70% of total revenue. Our stance: still cautious near term We have yet to see a rebound in nickel price with LME inventory still creeping up and the global economy yet to recover. We await FY08 results to get fuller details, and indicators to what lies ahead. ANTM has warned of a potential derivative loss, which we believe could negatively impact its cash position. As of Sep 2008, its net cash was ~US$260mn. This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient please telephone or e-mail the sender and delete this message and all attachments from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or any attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, error-free or virus-free. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors, omissions or consequences which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. This message is provided for informational purposes and is not intended to nor will it create any binding legal relations. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM (TP Rp900) - Merrill Lynch: Potential difficulties offset attractive price
Give it to me baby..aha...aha,,(The Offspring:1998) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 2/16/09, Kabu Nusi megasho...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Kabu Nusi megasho...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM (TP Rp900) - Merrill Lynch: Potential difficulties offset attractive price To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 6:22 AM PIECES of CAKEs, I'll love it --- On Mon, 2/16/09, indeksbei3000@ gmail.com indeksbei3000@ gmail.com wrote: From: indeksbei3000@ gmail.com indeksbei3000@ gmail..com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM (TP Rp900) - Merrill Lynch: Potential difficulties offset attractive price To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 6:13 AM Yup. 900.. Come on ML Bring it on. I am READY.. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! From: Rei Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 13:09:29 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM (TP Rp900) - Merrill Lynch: Potential difficulties offset attractive price Shtlet it be...if they give us 900, we would be very happy!!! On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 1:07 PM, SyIFA Fund syifa.f...@yahoo. com wrote: Ohh...ML just CAUTIOUS like usual. Underground mining is difficult?come onML analyst should go to Aceh and Kalimantan and should see that underground mining is no longer difficult... just hire the Australian to do that. And IF you guys carefully read this ML analyst report, you can see too many conflicts in her writing. That make me CAUTIOUS also..hehe.. ..PEACE. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 2/16/09, simon bolenang simon_bolenang@ yahoo.com wrote: From: simon bolenang simon_bolenang@ yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ANTM (TP Rp900) - Merrill Lynch: Potential difficulties offset attractive price To: obrolan-bandar yahoogroups obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, saham yahoogroups sa...@yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, February 16, 2009, 5:46 AM Muted reaction to recent gold asset acquisition ANTM has signed a Heads of Agreement to transfer ownership of PT Cibaliung Sumber Daya (CSD) from Arc Exploration to ANTM. ANTM will settle Arc's US$8mn debt to ANZ. The move should effectively make ANTM the sole owner of the undeveloped Cibaliung gold mine, in which CSD has a 95% stake.. While we think the price is attractive, our reaction is muted given past project delays and mining difficulty. Mining is by underground cut-and-fill stoping with decline access. Cibaliung mining not straightforward, in our view True, ANTM might get Cibaliung for a cheap price: US$8mn for a 95% stake in Cibaliung, which has 412,000 oz reserves (US$20.4/oz) . And we understand Arc has spent a substantial amount to develop the mine. However, considering project commissioning has been delayed for around two years on capex overrun, some financing difficulty and some development phase delays, we are now at the wait and see stage. ANTM is targeting to spend an additional US$35-40mn to bring it into operation in 2H10. ANTM still largely a nickel company after the acquisition We view Cibaliung more as a replacement for ANTM's Pongkor gold mine rather than a significant addition. As of December 2007, Pongkor gold reserve was 742,750 oz, which we estimate can last for another 3-4 years based on historical peak production. By 2011 we expect ANTM to still be largely a nickel producer, with nickel contributing about 70% of total revenue. Our stance: still cautious near term We have yet to see a rebound in nickel price with LME inventory still creeping up and the global economy yet to recover. We await FY08 results to get fuller details, and indicators to what lies ahead. ANTM has warned of a potential derivative loss, which we believe could negatively impact its cash position. As of Sep 2008, its net cash was ~US$260mn. This message and any attachment are confidential and may be privileged or otherwise protected from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient please telephone or e-mail the sender and delete this message and all attachments from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy this message or any attachment or disclose the contents to any other person. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure, error-free or virus-free. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors, omissions or consequences which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. This message is provided for informational purposes and is not intended to nor will it create any binding legal relations. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. This message should not be construed as a solicitation or offer to buy or sell any securities or related financial instruments.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR
Sssshh.do not talk too much dude..hehe SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 2/10/09, y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com wrote: From: y_dizz y_d...@mail2web.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 8:22 AM Ssst... Udah deh jangan diobrolin lagi. Kemarin aja kita baru berandai2 ke 5500, eh BDnya udah ngambek. Jangan sampe tuh BD ngamuk... Regards, Yudizz --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, indeksbei3000@ ... wrote: Belum waktunya Pak. Sabar. :) Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Sinyal Bagus XL, Nyambung Teruuusss... ! -Original Message- From: Rei highwaystar91@ ... Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:10:42 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] UNTR Pak JT, Untr gak kemana2 nih...bisa dishare gak bos? Tks!!!
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sering kalah diantrian....
Finally, I never realize to hold this stock...BUT after i taste the HEAVEN on ITit does really taste goodhehemy first time to BUY BUMI...at Mbah priceit's just too damned good..hehe SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 2/10/09, JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: JT jsxtra...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sering kalah diantrian To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 2:55 PM Yes BUMI sdh naik 100% sejak Mbah kasih challenge ttg titik mental BUMI (385).., BUMI sdh naik 60 % sejak Mr. Vincen Chase bilang 'Gak Nendang'.., BUMI sdh naik 50% sejak saya dan Pak Oen bersilang pendapat ttg akumulasi dan distribusi.. , BUMI sdh naik 35% sejak Pak DE bilang silence please.., BUMI sdh naik 25 % sejak Jendral Art kasih perintah BUY.., BUMI naik 14% dari support hari ini dimana Bu FIFI pasang ember besar di support 640. masih kurang nih?..., Tbumi hari ini kasih target 1000 perak tuh.., berarti masih ada ruang sekitar 35%.., kalau ngga tercapai, kita tau mesti nyalahin siapahahaha. .., becanda ya Om Tbum... H, Tahukah anda berapa persen ihsg naik SEJAK LOWEST EVER? Jadi perlu disyukuri lah..., mohon maaf, jika anda trader dan tidak cuan dari BUMI lately (I mean trader ya), something is wrong, dan anda harus coba cari tau salahnya dimana. Apakah akan lanjut atau tidak, atau balik lagi ke 200-300..., As a trader kita gak usah pusing, selama ada range to trade and trading volume, we should make it. Insya Allah Regards, JT -Original Message- From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: 10 Februari 2009 21:01 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sering kalah diantrian... . --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jku...@... wrote: Kata Embah angpao segunung, ini mah baru kakinya gunung...tahu dong? BUMI udah naek 100%, masih belon cukup ?. Mau angpao segunung ?. Engga takut nanti ketindihan ama gunung angpao ?.. hehehe... Tenang aja, di BEI saham yg bagus udah tinggal satu yaitu BUMI yg dikeluarin dari LQ45... hahaha... - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1942 - Release Date: 02/09/09 17:40:00
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI masih naik pagi ini
No one give any comments on BUMI movement? :) WOW SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Ferry Wachjudi ferry.wachj...@gmail.com wrote: From: Ferry Wachjudi ferry.wachj...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI masih naik pagi ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 5:26 PM siang gimana mbah?? Atau setelah jam 10:00 gimana? jsx_consultant wrote: BUMI masih naik pagi ini http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwbumi.htm
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00)
Just hire a forex analyst (and also a debt trader) and you'll know exactly what I mean Sir.Regards,SF FMWhere you can trust your fund--- On Wed, 2/4/09, Desmond Wira desmondw...@yahoo.com wrote:From: Desmond Wira desmondw...@yahoo.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00)To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comDate: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 8:00 AMPenurunan BI Rate akan mempermudah bank menyalurkan kredit, dengan begitu pertumbuhan kredit akan lebih baik, NPL makin kecil, dunia usaha bisa mendapat dana murah untuk operasional dan sektor riil akan tertolong. Pertumbuhan kredit nasional melambat di link tersebut dulu disebabkan suku bunga yang terlalu tinggi. Sekarang sudah diturunkan.Kalau faktor rupiah, semenjak sistem pelaporan transaksi valas, rupiah tidak banyak diperdagangkan, volume transaksi menupis. Sudah dari kemarin hot money kabur dari pasar uang.Jadi apa sebenarnya yang ditakutkan SF?Kalau Pak Ajo Ramon bilang karena AR yang dicapping, sekarang AR sudah kembali normal, malah untuk saham ketengan bisa 35%. Jadi sinyalemen AR tidak terbukti.Yang menjadi pertanyaan saya malah kenapa BI Rate turun market seperti adem ayem saja. Apa ada sebenarnya sampai pelaku pasar belum juga mau masuk?Salam DWFrom: dario kurniawan darioamran1...@yahoo.co.idTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 2:42:16 PMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00) ini yang di khawatirkan pak mbeling waktu itu, mudah2an Q2 membaik...http://economy.okezone.com/index.php/ReadStory/2009/02/04/277/189283/pertumbuhan-kredit-nasional-melambatDario Amran--- Pada Rab, 4/2/09, Ajo Ramon ajo.ra...@yahoo.com menulis:Dari: Ajo Ramon ajo.ra...@yahoo.comTopik: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00)Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comTanggal: Rabu, 4 Februari, 2009, 2:25 PMkeliatannya SF takut krn penurunan rate ini akan menyebabkan daya tarik rupiah berkurang, spread dg Fed semakin menurun sehingga hot money kabur lagi,,,kalo menurut saya sih Indonesia udah kehilangan daya tarik semenjak bursa di capping auto rejectnya,,,jadi sebaiknya BI rate diturunin aja lebih dalam supaya sektor riil bisa bernafas,,, From: fifi young fifiyoun...@gmail.comTo: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSent: Wednesday, February 4, 2009 12:28:09 PMSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00) With all due respect, can you be more specific?I mean, what are you afraid of?Thanks. 2009/2/4 SyIFA Fund syifa.f...@yahoo. com This is what i'm afraid ofRegards,SF FMWhere you can trust your fund--- On Wed, 2/4/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. idSubject: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00)To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comDate: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 3:04 AM BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00) Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat.Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00)
This is what i'm afraid of Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 2/4/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 3:04 AM BI rate turun 50 bps jadi 8,25% (Etrading 10:00)
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Should we Jump from The Train MBAH??
Market can't be a good indicator when liqudity is off the air. This can be resulted in stuck or higher price of stocks (such in last few days) but also can hammer the price of stocks (such today). We are in the same page. CONFUSE. If you are confuse (not so sure) with the market right now, what will we do?you knew the answer already :) SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 2/2/09, Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Thomas Frederick thomaszone_2...@yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Should we Jump from The Train MBAH?? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, February 2, 2009, 7:51 AM Should we Jump from The Train MBAH?? 1307 udah terlewati... bahkan dow fut dan regional tidak mendukung sama sekali. Cuman yang membuat bingung... tidak ada volume value pada market... Jd bingung dech skrg... what do u think mbah?? JUMP OUT?? Pak JT komen dong Thank You! ThomaS FredericK
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS
Today is probably not SELLING TIME. It just BUY TIME. BUY AND HOLD. Low liquidity in the market help to defense the pressure. So, thanks to low liquidity in the market (it's rare isn't IT?BUT it happens again... Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 1/21/09, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 3:25 AM yg tadi pagi panik short lupa liat fut yg + JT jsxtra...@yahoo. com wrote: Selama market masih bisa absorb, that’s OK…. Dan sampai 10.20 masih aman, belum ada tekanan yg berlebihan…, mungkin yg tadi pagi, coba-coba ngeshort…, kalau ditarik ke noceng lagi.., sakit gigi dia..…hehe.., let see... JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps..com] On Behalf Of jku...@yahoo. com Sent: 21 Januari 2009 10:10 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS Yg jualan ngotot pak JT. Apa nonton dulu ya? Sent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT From: jsxtrader Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 02:48:21 - To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PGAS OK, PGAS mulai ada yg absorb.., 9.43 mulai ada counter keatas.. JT --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsxtrader jsxtra...@.. . wrote: 1925-1950 support.., saya lagi amati, tadi pagi ada pressure kebawah, kalau ngga nongol lagi, aman.., kita tunggu agak siangan dikit --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Big Fat bigfatong@ wrote: Pak JT, PGAS gimana nih, ada ilham gak? minta saran dong. Boleh mulai di comot? --- On Wed, 1/21/09, JT jsxtrader@ wrote: From: JT jsxtrader@ Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Semoga DOW Bisa Tutup Minimal di 8.084 !! To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 2:32 AM kita tunggu dua hari kedepan…., mdh2an fail.. JT From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps..com] On Behalf Of januar bayu Sent: 21 Januari 2009 7:43 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Semoga DOW Bisa Tutup Minimal di 8.084 !! dow 8000 udah jebol pak... siap2 ajah deh... BUMI saya jual ajah deh, mumpung blm AR kiri lagi. On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 2:52 AM, rofik efendi fiplan1...@yahoo. com wrote: Semoga DOW tidak jebol 8.000. Kalau jebol SOS deh.Error! Filename not specified. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1903 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 2:34 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.10/1903 - Release Date: 1/20/2009 2:34 PM
RE: [SPAM]Re: [obrolan-bandar] Musuh Traders
musuh paling besar bagi banyak trader adalah opini mereka tentang kemana pasar bergerak. You should follow the market, unless you have a LOT of MONEY (BD) musuh paling besar berikutnya adalah opini dari orang lain tentang kemana pasar bergerak. Idem Jadi bertransaksilah dengan apa yang kamu lihat, BUKAN apa yang kamu dengar atau pikirkan. If you often look into the monitor, there will be more chance for you to do incorrect action --- On Mon, 1/19/09, Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: Aria Bela Nusa ariab...@centrin.net.id Subject: RE: [SPAM]Re: [obrolan-bandar] Musuh Traders To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 1:39 AM YUP – yg paling menentukan keberhasilan kita ialah bgm tindakan tepat yg diambil utk itu – pikiran (thought, opinion) + cara (alat/tools) sendiri belon/tidaklah cukup From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogrou ps..com] On Behalf Of Dean Earwicker Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 7:56 AM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [SPAM]Re: [obrolan-bandar] Musuh Traders Yaudah, kalo gitu saya mau tanya dong.. Coba kita lihat IHSG, apa yang kita lihat sekarang? Regards, DE Pada 19 Januari 2009 01:46, Dreamer visi_2...@yahoo. com menulis: Dikutip dari buku the master traders : musuh paling besar bagi banyak trader adalah opini mereka tentang kemana pasar bergerak. musuh paling besar berikutnya adalah opini dari orang lain tentang kemana pasar bergerak. Jadi bertransaksilah dengan apa yang kamu lihat, BUKAN apa yang kamu dengar atau pikirkan.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Sectoral Finance (166) - PENTINGNYA SUPPORT...
Conclusion Mbah? --- On Thu, 1/15/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index Sectoral Finance (166) - PENTINGNYA SUPPORT... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 7:29 AM Main saham saat index turun itu berbahaya, karena TIDAK ADA yang tahu sampai berapa turunnya. Support itu adalah level harga atau index dimana ADA PROBABILITY bahwa harga rebound akan dilevel tsb, tapi TIDAK ADA jaminan bahwa harga akan rebound pada level Support tsb. Begitu juga dengan level Support yg ada dibawahnya, bertambah rendah Supportnya tentu Probability reboundnya lebih besar, tapi TETAP tidak ada jaminan bahwa support tsb tidak akan jebol. Para trader yg main saham disaat bearish, mengambil opportunity BUY pada level Suport, TAPI ketika Level support tsb JEBOL, mereka akan EXIT dan menunggu pada Support dibawahnya LAGI. Jadi Technical Trading disini menjadi PERMAINAN yg bersifat PROBABILITAS. Jadi trader itu harus sadar bahwa mereka tidak selalu akan memang dalam SUATU permainan. TAPI jika taktik BUY pada support tsb DIULANG ULANG secara terus menurus maka HO KIE akan berpihak pada trader karena secara ilmiah MEMANG harga CENDERUNG rebound pada Level Support. Cuman harus diingat, bahwa Index lagi cenderung turun jadi permainan ini lagi melawan arus.. -- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, fuyi anip...@... wrote: kalau memang benarr tembus 166... ke bawah apa hrs CL or hold aja ya pak.. porto saya kebetulan dua-2 nya finance. tx 2009/1/15, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ...: Index Sectoral Finance (166) Saat ini index sectoral Finance lagi MENTEST level 166 yaitu level PREVIOUS HIGH SUPPORT. http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ pwlfina.htm
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG at Previous LOW support (1388)
Like one of my friend said TOP JuraganesorryTOP MbahIt's really CLEAR tonight where the big ship will go spinnakering itself. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 1/14/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: IHSG at Previous LOW support (1388) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 9:23 AM Gerakan SMGR dan UNVR, terutama UNVR termasuk gerakan yg EXTRA ORDINARY, jadi pasti ada KELANJUTANNYA. .. Padahal katanya UNVR udah Golden Cross MA50 dan MA200 jadi udah OKE banget, nyatanya ama BD diturunin -8% !!! Si BD pasti udah bisa nebak: - DJI entar malem atau - Nasib IHSG kedepan dipersimpangan ini (liat gambar) - Atau rencana gerakan BUMI besok. Yg jelas, gerakan UNVR tsb PASTI ada hubungannya. Kita tunggu aja DJI malem, mudah mudahan scenarionya jadi JELAS.. http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwihsg.htm --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Rei highwaystar91@ ... wrote: Speculate to buy Mbah? Apa analisa bandarmologinya utk hari ini nih? Thanks Mbah! On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 3:52 PM, jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar% 40yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: IHSG at Previous LOW support Want to speculate ?. SMGR -6% 3675 UNVR -8% 8000
Re: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bbca
Yes Mbah...it's just simple called camuflage...haha Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 1/13/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bbca To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 10:57 PM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, swan silo swan_groups@ ... wrote: apakah arah harga suatu saham ditentukan oleh net selling asing sebagai satu2nya faktor?. Embah malah engga percaya ama angka NET BUY/SELL ASING...hehehe. ..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT: Ujian WPPE (Masih diperlukankah ke depannya?)
Yes, If you want to be an investment banker, you need to take WPPE first to get WPEE certificate...haha Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 1/13/09, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] OOT: Ujian WPPE (Masih diperlukankah ke depannya?) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 6:38 AM hahah nasabah musti dapet sim/wppe baru boleh jual beli saham? bej transaksi 1 hari bisa 100 milyar doang kali dario kurniawan darioamran1976@ yahoo.co. id wrote:Kemungkinan ke depannya apakah masih diperlukan license WPPE untuk marketing/trader ?? Background alasannya di tahun mendatang nanti dimana infrastruktur internet semakin maju dan hampir semua broker memakai on line trading, otomatis yang eksekusi harga adalah si nasabah itu sendiri. Job desc marketing tentu tidak terlalu krusial lagi. Mungkin yang berubah adalah tidak ada lagi marketing merangkap trader eksekusi tapi hanya sebatas Customer Service, tapi itu pun hanya diperlukan moment tertentu kalau si nasabah ada trouble dalam input. Tugas ke depan marketing murni hanya mendapatkan nasabah baru. Maksud wacana tadi sebenarnya apakah nasabah perlu mendapatkan sertifikat WPPE baru dia bisa bertransaksi memakai OLT? Kaya ijin SIM aja biarpun dia bisa nyetir mobil tapi kalau ga punya license si supir dikenakan sangsi.(kalau ketauan bikin salah) Hanya terblesit di pikiran saja , no need pro no need kontra, just share and feedback. Dario Amran --- Pada Sel, 13/1/09, farhan zailani fzail...@yahoo. com menulis: Dari: farhan zailani fzail...@yahoo. com Topik: [obrolan-bandar] OOT: Ujian WPPE Kepada: Obrolan Bandar obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Tanggal: Selasa, 13 Januari, 2009, 10:51 AM Rekans, mohon info kalau ada ujian WPPE dalam waktu dekat ini? kapan dan dimana? tks Coba Yahoo! Messenger 9.0 baru Lengkap dengan segala yang Anda sukai tentang Messenger! Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Iseng2x kalkulasi BUMI pakai simple DCF --- Buat pak Richard
The power of R.E.P.O :) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Iseng2x kalkulasi BUMI pakai simple DCF --- Buat pak Richard To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 4:57 PM gile fantastis sekali yah bumi kasi gain 545% sementara harga coal dr 50 ke 90 cuman naik 80% jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote:--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, RichardMux richardmux@ ... wrote: But Embah.. saya mau Tanya.. menurut anda sebagai suhu yg sudah lama berkecimpungan di area ini, saran buat new be.. lebih profitable menjadi day trader ato fundamental trader yg bersedia menahan sahamnya sampai lamaa sekali? Jawabannya TERGANTUNG market cycle Bullish periode itu bisa berlangsung bertahun tahun, jika bisa masuk pada awal cycle akan BAGUS sekali, Contoh: - Coal 50, BUMI 930 awal 2007 - Coal 70, BUMI 2400 - coal 90, BUMI 6000 - Coal 127, BUMI 7750 - coal 138, BUMI 8500 Sekarang coal 80, BUMI seharusnya 3000, tapi closing hari ini 630 (harga KURANG ajar). Apakah coal terendahnya di 80 ?. Atau coal akan turun dulu dibawah harga minyak SEPERTI sebelum tahun 2007. Jadi ini bukan masalah mana yg lebih baik trader atau investor, TAPI BISAKAH kita menebak AWAL DARI CYCLE harga batu bara dan APAKAH kita bisa BERSABAR menunggu itu TERJADI ?. Apakah IHSG sekarang sudah terendah ?. Apakah tidak mungkin IHSG menjadi 400 jika dunia mengalami RESESI YG HEBAT dithn 2009 ?. Begitu juga dengan Trader, Minyak turun dalam dua hari dari 50 ke 40 saat ini, apa engga mungkin besok pagi 30 ? atau mungkin juga naik lagi ke 50. Jadi trader itu punya kehidupan yang GONJANG GANJING. Lebih baik menjadi SEMI trader/investor. Masuk pada awal market cycle bulanan dan keluar pada akhir cyclenya. Contoh: 1. Masuk pada hari Sumpah Pemuda 2. Masuk ikut brigade 1089 Kedua cycle ini menghasilkan kenaikan index sekitar 2 x 30%, tanpa perlu MELOTOTIN layar saban hari dari pagi ampe sore dengan kenaikan saham mencapai 100% ampe 150%. Cuman ITU LAGI kebetulan, karena sangat susah menentukan AWAL dari cycle. Tapi mudah mudahan bisa terulang lagi... 1 lagi embah, meski ini stupid bgt question saya , I memberanikan diri bertanya aja deh,.. ada refrensi gak untuk guide us on money management.. kadang saya liat teman2x saya ya main (termaksud saya) lemah bgt money managementnya sehingga cepat abis pelor. Saya yakin ini pasti unique kepada masing2x trader tp advice anda apa ya buat para newbi J Thanks and regards, Richard. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:28 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Iseng2x kalkulasi BUMI pakai simple DCF --- Buat pak Richard --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan- bandar%40yahoogr oups.com , tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: PDF dari Dana,JP,Macq silakan di cermati, enjoy http://www.mediafir e.com/? sharekey=45598714bb 145019d2db6fb9a8 902bda Ngitung Harga WAJAR engga gampang, udah susah2 ngitung dapetnya paling2 harga kurang AJAR ..eh... WAJAR... hehehe... Hari ini pak Tirta ngirim tiga harga BUMI dari research JP Morgan, Macquire dan Danareksa. Perkiraan Net Profit 2008,2009 dan 2010 - JP Morgan: 668, 509, 149 - Macquire : 970, 954, 995 - Danareksa: 546, 333, 306 Gile estimate profit 2010: BEDA JAUH BANGET 149, 995 dan 306, analis udah pada stress nih... Hasil HITUNGAN pake rumus KEREN dapetnya: - JP Morgan: target = Rp 1240, tapi karena emitennya nakal didiscount 50% jadi Rp 620 - Macquire: target = Rp 500 - Danareksa: Rp 900 Macquire yg estimate profitnya paling gede dapat harga wajarnya paling rendah yaitu 500, dan yg lain 900 dan 1240... hehehe... Yang mana yang BENER ?. Bingung KAN ... Coba kita itung pake CARA GAMPANG: Awal thn 2007, harga coal 50 dan harga PTBA = 3500, sekarang coal = 80 dan PTBA = 7950. Jadi harga PTBA naik 7950/3500 = 2,27 kali Harga BUMI saat PTBA= 3500 thn 2007 adalah 930. Jadi kalo kita pake ratio harga PTBA = 930 X 2,27 = 2111 Jadi kalo 7950 adalah harga wajar PTBA sekarang maka harga wajar BUMI sekarang adalah Rp 2111. Tapi karena BUMI itu emiten SLEBOR dan NAKAL, kita kasih discount 50% menjadi 1055. Harga hari ini = 630, kalo ada dua kali lagi AR KIRI akan menjadi = 510. Jadi kalo beli BUMI di harga GEBUGAN AR = 510, akan ada potensi gain 100%. Ini menurut hitungan harga wajar CARA GAMPANG tapi rada kurang belAJAR .. hehehe... Gitu pak Richard...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Iseng2x kalkulasi BUMI pakai simple DCF --- Buat pak Richard
Its true but not as much as B, and we can see who the winner at the end, just check from the HIGHEST to the NOW point Mbah to see the risk indeed, camuflage in price, unusual corporate action (I mean not an organic one)...bla...bla...so many things to say here Regards SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Sat, 1/10/09, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Iseng2x kalkulasi BUMI pakai simple DCF --- Buat pak Richard To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, January 10, 2009, 12:27 AM PTBA juga naik gede seperti BUMI, jadi ada LOGIKAnya yaitu efek muliplier dari kenaikan harga batu bara... There is NO MAGIC, it is only SIMPLE valuation... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, SyIFA Fund syifa.fund@ ... wrote: The power of R.E.P.O :) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 1/9/09, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ ... wrote: From: Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ ... Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Iseng2x kalkulasi BUMI pakai simple DCF --- Buat pak Richard To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 4:57 PM gile fantastis sekali yah bumi kasi gain 545% sementara harga coal dr 50 ke 90 cuman naik 80% jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote:--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, RichardMux richardmux@ ... wrote: But Embah.. saya mau Tanya.. menurut anda sebagai suhu yg sudah lama berkecimpungan di area ini, saran buat new be.. lebih profitable menjadi day trader ato fundamental trader yg bersedia menahan sahamnya sampai lamaa sekali? Jawabannya TERGANTUNG market cycle Bullish periode itu bisa berlangsung bertahun tahun, jika bisa masuk pada awal cycle akan BAGUS sekali, Contoh: - Coal 50, BUMI 930 awal 2007 - Coal 70, BUMI 2400 - coal 90, BUMI 6000 - Coal 127, BUMI 7750 - coal 138, BUMI 8500 Sekarang coal 80, BUMI seharusnya 3000, tapi closing hari ini 630 (harga KURANG ajar). Apakah coal terendahnya di 80 ?. Atau coal akan turun dulu dibawah harga minyak SEPERTI sebelum tahun 2007. Jadi ini bukan masalah mana yg lebih baik trader atau investor, TAPI BISAKAH kita menebak AWAL DARI CYCLE harga batu bara dan APAKAH kita bisa BERSABAR menunggu itu TERJADI ?. Apakah IHSG sekarang sudah terendah ?. Apakah tidak mungkin IHSG menjadi 400 jika dunia mengalami RESESI YG HEBAT dithn 2009 ?. Begitu juga dengan Trader, Minyak turun dalam dua hari dari 50 ke 40 saat ini, apa engga mungkin besok pagi 30 ? atau mungkin juga naik lagi ke 50. Jadi trader itu punya kehidupan yang GONJANG GANJING. Lebih baik menjadi SEMI trader/investor. Masuk pada awal market cycle bulanan dan keluar pada akhir cyclenya. Contoh: 1. Masuk pada hari Sumpah Pemuda 2. Masuk ikut brigade 1089 Kedua cycle ini menghasilkan kenaikan index sekitar 2 x 30%, tanpa perlu MELOTOTIN layar saban hari dari pagi ampe sore dengan kenaikan saham mencapai 100% ampe 150%. Cuman ITU LAGI kebetulan, karena sangat susah menentukan AWAL dari cycle. Tapi mudah mudahan bisa terulang lagi... 1 lagi embah, meski ini stupid bgt question saya , I memberanikan diri bertanya aja deh,.. ada refrensi gak untuk guide us on money management.. kadang saya liat teman2x saya ya main (termaksud saya) lemah bgt money managementnya sehingga cepat abis pelor. Saya yakin ini pasti unique kepada masing2x trader tp advice anda apa ya buat para newbi J Thanks and regards, Richard. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant Sent: Friday, January 09, 2009 9:28 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Iseng2x kalkulasi BUMI pakai simple DCF --- Buat pak Richard --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com mailto:obrolan- bandar%40yahoogr oups.com , tirta858 tirta858@ wrote: PDF dari Dana,JP,Macq silakan di cermati, enjoy http://www.mediafir e.com/? sharekey=45598714bb 145019d2db6fb9a8 902bda Ngitung Harga WAJAR engga gampang, udah susah2 ngitung dapetnya paling2 harga kurang AJAR ..eh... WAJAR... hehehe... Hari ini pak Tirta ngirim tiga harga BUMI dari research JP Morgan, Macquire dan Danareksa. Perkiraan Net Profit 2008,2009 dan 2010 - JP Morgan: 668, 509, 149 - Macquire : 970, 954, 995 - Danareksa: 546, 333, 306 Gile estimate profit 2010: BEDA JAUH BANGET 149, 995 dan 306, analis udah pada stress nih... Hasil HITUNGAN pake rumus KEREN dapetnya: - JP Morgan: target = Rp 1240, tapi karena emitennya nakal didiscount 50% jadi
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: B TP 6.000
B always do this kind of business to make a financial shenanigans..I'm just afraid about B price, you can check by googling (or if possible Bloomberging) on B actions year to year ..just be careful on Bwhat another Ponzi Scheme Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Harga wajar Bxxi 200 ???
No, it couldn't be that kinda low, you must be joking Sir. Be careful of them i mean that you should be aware of their risk (but do not forget about their return also). It couldn't reach that price for so many reasons. Isn't it right Mbah :)? For now, just relax, take it easy, get on your yacht for vacationdu...dudu Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Thu, 1/8/09, Bandar Junior bandar_jun...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Bandar Junior bandar_jun...@yahoo.com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Harga wajar Bxxi 200 ??? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 8, 2009, 8:45 AM Semalam dalam mimpi, ane dapet wangsit, akan terjadi gempa BUMI yang sangat dahsyatt dan menelan banyak korban jiwa, pada waktu FAJAR menyingsing, bahkan para DEWA pun tak dapat mencegah bencana ini. Namanya aja wangsit, jadi tidak perlu analisa2 an dan fundamental2 an, bisa bener, bisa juga salah. Kalau salah ya maapin aje Kalau bener ya maapin juge deh Kalau ada yang buat TP 6K, coba deh liat track record ybs dalam men set TP2 yang lalu. Lah wong ada saham club the 50's yg tahun lalu di ramal bakal nankgring di 2K. Seperti nyang pernah ane bilang, kucing kurap ngeong dikira macan. Cuman pengen denger pendapat sang pendekar tangan kosong, apakah menerima wangsit yang sama kayak saya?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Wall Street Merangsek Naik Sekuat Tenaga...
Thinking before writing something Pak TBumido not duplicate accurately...hehe --- On Thu, 1/1/09, Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com wrote: From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwic...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Wall Street Merangsek Naik Sekuat Tenaga To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Thursday, January 1, 2009, 5:11 AM Bah, macam mana turun 100%... gratis dong..? :) Regards, DE Pada 1 Januari 2009 10:39, t_bumi t_b...@yahoo. co.id menulis: --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, icchanks iccha...@... wrote: Apakah rumah, kendaraan dan barang2 lainnya haraganya akan turun? sip : tbumi Penurunan semua saham BC di BEI tak perlu dikhwatirkan lagi karena dunia sdh masuk deflasi dimana semua komoditi, barang dan property juga ikut turun sangat dratis. Tahun 2009 semuanya akan mulai membaik bertahap. SIP : tbumi Semua harga akan ikut turun. Rumah di USA sdh turun minimal 100%, bahkan rumah sitaan bank kalau dilelang penurunannya bisa tembus minimal 150%. Mobil Hyundai / Korea di USA sdh promosi buy 1 (new) get 1 free (new). Mobil baru buatan Amerika sdh turun 40%. Baju baju baru sdh turun 40% - 70%. Harga komoditi, minyak (tertinggi $147) sdh turun minimal 100% Harga emas turun sekitar 30% dari harga tertingginya ($ 1'100) Upah Minimum regional USA akan turun di 2009 bila pertumbuhan ekonomi tak membaik. Pihak perbankan sdh melakukan pengketatan kartu kredit dimana limit kredit konsumen banyak yang dituruni dari semula $5'000 menjadi $2'000 per kartu. Jadi ini tentunya akan berdampak dgn konsumen utk belanja, dimana tentunya tight money dari bank akan berdampak ke toko toko. Jadi ini berarti sdh deflasi (penurunan harga) pd saat ini. - - -- + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + +Yahoo! Groups Links http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/ Individual Email | Traditional http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/obrolan- bandar/join (Yahoo! ID required) mailto:obrolan-bandar- dig...@yahoogrou ps.com mailto:obrolan-bandar- fullfeatured@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar- unsubscribe@ yahoogroups. com http://docs. yahoo.com/ info/terms/
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Wuih pgas...
This is trader stock coz thís company also trader (they buy from p...@*$^^ and export it).for me i would just buy the company with resources and it would be good IF they also have their own contractor. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 12/22/08, Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Vincent Chase chase.vinc...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Wuih pgas... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 22, 2008, 7:22 AM kayaknye indf,pgas,untr bbrp saham yg banyak diomongin di ob sering digebukin bandar y_dizz y_d...@mail2web. com wrote: JEBOL... Fiuhh... untung sempet kabur. Copetan hari ini gagal. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, JsxTrader jsxtra...@. .. wrote: Ya tapi ada bid 30 rb di situ.., maksud saya.., jebol ngga tuh bid itu. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- ban...@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of felix gunawan Sent: 22 Desember 2008 11:40 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Wuih pgas... mana bisa jebol hari ini pak...1800 khan dah mentok bawah, logikanya dgn kondisi skg jika gak ada auto rejek mah 1800 lewat besok tuh gap down --- On Sun, 12/21/08, JsxTrader jsxtra...@. .. wrote: From: JsxTrader jsxtra...@. .. Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Wuih pgas... To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 8:27 PM Sementara support 1800 masih cukup kuat menahan harga.., kondisi terakhir harga sdh Over Sold, dimana harga jatuh terlalu cepat, signal reversal belum ada.., saya masih tunggu itu.., sementara Volume sampai dgn jam 11.25 masih dibawah rata-rata.., 1800 level kritis, jika jebol, BD risking their position., let se lah..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] (Impossible )Re: Oil May Fall Below $25 Next Year, Merrill Lynch Says
Be an Investor for NOWjust BUY the stocks.look at ANTM..i've been collected them since it's price was 1010..if you afraid on OIL price then do not enter OIL stocks.buy their alternatives because they're not closed subtitutes anymore to OIL. I've never believe in M# (I''m using abbreviation to not make me in jail)..hahaha.they're also on buy sideIF they want to buy something they'll issue bad news on that.IF they want to sell something..they'll issue good thing..that's HOW they work.LET ME REMIND YOU ONCE AGAIN WHAT HAD BEEN HAPPENED TO PGAS SHARES.I've knew what is gonna happened to major OIL companies IF OIL price is drag down below $35. Yeah...like what i've told you beforeinformation is priceless.maybe they have information that we won't get at THIS time. Disclaimer: ON Warm Regards from Abroad, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 12/19/08, jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id wrote: From: jsx_consultant jsx-consult...@centrin.net.id Subject: [obrolan-bandar] (Impossible )Re: Oil May Fall Below $25 Next Year, Merrill Lynch Says To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 19, 2008, 6:05 PM Mendingan tidur pak, ngapain harga minyak 'BOONGAN' diliatin... Makanya embah bilang jangan liatin market malam ini. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ ... wrote: Iya deh Boss, besok sabtu, mending saya tidur dulu mimpi oil udah dikerjain dan ditutup tetap 30-an up. Cuan lg. Regards In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Itu yang embah mau tunjukan malam INI, si Piet item sebenarnya sudah BERAKSI dari dari minggu lalu, tapi PUNCAK KEBRUTALANNYA akan terjadi malam ini. Saat ini baru jam 00:40, mungkin mendekati penutupan dia akan BERAKSI ... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ wrote: Hehehe kayaknya 'gak akan ada yg mampu' kerjain oil Boss Regards
RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS
Agree with Pak JT, also watch PTBA and ANTM . Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/9/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 2:57 AM Harga berada pada Resistance 1950-1960, jika break, next test 2000. Smoga From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: 09 Desember 2008 9:54 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PGAS HOLD !!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] News mendrive market atau market mendrive News ?
We called it as vicious circular MBah...u should know where is the head versus the oxtail (buntut)...hahahaI'm getting hungry soon. So, how bout the index guys? :) Happy enough? Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 12/5/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] News mendrive market atau market mendrive News ? To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 5, 2008, 2:22 AM Tadi pagi berita dibloomberg: - Index Asia turun karena harga minyak turun. Saat ini beritanya udah berubah: - Index Asia naik karena penurunan harga minyak akan bikin biaya enerji turun. News mendrive market atau market mendrive News ? Bloomberg aja keder... hehehe...
RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT
Pak GT-MAN... Come on...Look @ your index today...mwehehehe...i've just told you tomorrowdo not buy NOW...I'm not joking...I'm telling you. Sorry for my late response Pak GT-MAN, I've another deal in round table this morning till 3 p.m. Happy trading then. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Felicia Rumondor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Felicia Rumondor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:57 PM Tarik nafas dulu pak yang dalam...,nyebut pak...nyebut. .. --- On Tue, 12/2/08, G - MAN germantantra@ gmail.com wrote: From: G - MAN germantantra@ gmail.com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:40 PM El – El, Saya sih dukung anda mo ngomong bullish… Tapi saya sarankan jangan terlalu gede mulut. IDX lu tinggal berantakan? Liat dong, DJIA – 679. Regional juga merah. Soal BUMI … hahaha gua ngga tau lu Bandar darimana, Tapi soal BUMI lo salah besar. Itu soalan duit yg geeed banget. Soal angkat index juga bukan soalan kecil coy Gua sih org kecil, Cuma soal BUMI dan para csnya, gua sih tau Ngga usah di koar2 disini. Lo pastinya bukan anak buahnya AbuBa, itu yg gua yakin. Gini aje deh El, Dari pada orang2 penasaran dan lu bullshit terus, gmn kalo lu show? Sebut dari tanggal berapa, saham apa / index mao keberapa secara tepat. Jng bilang ngga bisa. The real BD bisa…. Itupun kalo lo orang semua kenal BD yg asli. Kita langsung takluk deh sama lu. Gua sendiri akan panggil lu guru kek, raja kek apa yg lu mao deh. Kalo bisa 2 - 3 kali. Jgn OMDO. Keadaan BD kaya sebenernya apa juga kita tahu Gitu2 Artomoro berusaha semangatin orang, tanpa perlu di upahin / di puja2 orang. Liat dong JSX trader, Tasrul, JH, dll, bagi TA secara gratis tanpa pamrih, tanpa OMDO, Biar si SYlar Fund ngomong gede sama JSXTrader, tapi dia humble aja tuh. Ayo para jago omong Gede, kluarkan bukti ngomonganlu…. Jangan dipikir orang bisa percaya langsung ya. Mumpung sekarang transaksi BEI harian Cuma 1 – 2 T, kecil kan buat BD berkuasa kaya lu semua… BD Gede tu ngga pake omong, langsung kerja. BD Gede itu lintas jalur semua ada. Bahkan pemerintah pun kadang2 dukung. Sebel gua, udah ditahan2in masih juga gini ari ada celepuk ngomong gede melulu. Ngga abis2 lagi. Makin didiemin makin ngelunjak Kalo ngga berani show, tambahin deh embel2 diblk namalu pada “BULLSHITTER” SALAM SEBEL G - MAN
Re: [obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini
Nope...look at my 2nd Q to Dick Q: You should be able to invest your money at least 1 year Pak. :) Sorry for my late response. (I've got something to do out of nowhere) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dharma Krisnadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dharma Krisnadi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] . Re: IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 1:57 PM To DE : berarti pernah maen King of Fighter juga dong , Anyway, hampir semua fund gede pernah getok redemption lumayan taon ini. Anda gak kena redempt SF ?
RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT
Wow...You're so hilarious Pak. Thanks for the comment btw. From the way you wrote the mail, i knew the level of education that you had. No problem Pak.. This country still has to educate their people (like you). No hurt feeling ya. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 12/3/08, G - MAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: G - MAN [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini BULL SHIT To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, December 3, 2008, 2:02 PM He dodol, gua ngga pake T dodol… Emangnye kenape kalo index turun? Gua jadi gembel? Emangnya gue takut coy… gua short barang sendiri … Index mau ke 700 kek, 900 kek gak takuuutt Ngga perlu lu bangga coy… Lo mao round table kek, square table kek sampe jam 5 kek EGP man, EGP…. Emang gua musti dengerin kepintaran lu ngayal… Lo ngga berasa, secara alus udah disinggung, sama kawan2 yg lain? Coba baca GW kalo jadi lo ngga berani2 lagi nongol… mal ama tembok coy … Kalo cari nasabah nongolin dong… Mana ada FM yang ngga jelas, orang bisa percaya 100.000 US$, simpen setaun… Gua juga tau yang ngga keliatan…. Jumlahnya juga gede. Tapi ada insistusi kuat didepannya. Kecil sih, Cuma 10 M initialnya Return 20% / year No question ask. Only few selected people. Iklan : mulut ke mulut cink, ngga gembar – gembor kaya amoy RRC macam lo … Lo to samanya dengan EL. Entity ngga jelas yang mulutnya segede bumi… Dodol dasar dodol ganti namalu jadi SyFA FUND DODOL ye… G – MAN nih buta, biar lu keliatan ngga ada T nya tolol
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
I'm afraid I can't, I just guarantee them to get minimum 20%, if they get higher then it would be good for them. In West Tale, a Rubinson Crusoe pennies can worth billion now, but how long does he take his pennies to be billions? Just an old folks Regards SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 9:12 AM Nope, I'm just an ugly, horrible looking old nanny... who tried to pick up some coins and pennies in the stock market... If you would accept me as an exceptional client with only coins and pennies to invest, perhaps you could make it into BILLIONS...? On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 1:07 PM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Thanks Bu Fifi, Hey...I'm watching Bloomberg TV and seeing a beautiful girl in blue dress.is that you? :) Good Point; BUT some of commodities, com metal, agriculture, banking and optional are not in mine. Infrastructure stocks are no longer included in my portfolio (long time ago YES). Happy cuan for all. I'm sure that MBah and Pak JT suggestion are enough for you because sometimes I follow them but not in other times (if we are not in the same page). I don't want to add more disputes in this mailist because i love this mailist so much. Enjoy the 2nd session to you all. May God strengthen your will. My Apologize to MBah and others today; I'm so sorry to make inconvenience situation on mailist. I'm just human with emotion. :) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young fifiyoung03@ gmail.com wrote: From: fifi young fifiyoung03@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:41 AM Pak Rei, Let me give you some clues: Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP Energy : PGAS Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ... Tinggal pilih aja Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur.. BUY disaat market berdarah-darah, lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. .. simple 'kan?! he... he... Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... .., milis OB B U B A R dech... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business diversities. I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach my target price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3 different brokerage firms.. and i learned so much from my 3 accounts what should i do to be a good investor, because i used different method on my 3 accounts. Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. What i'm trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me.. So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some valuation. For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT, EL, and others). Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA DAPUR.HEHE...BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?). Luv u all, PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir... Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not joking.. I'm telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm just an investor who
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Nope Pak, I will never make such things exist for me, they will cacth me and send me to jail for not paying tax..hehehefor me door to door technique still much better...I love to play PS2with my friend...but we just play soccer. I'm not a big fund, but i'm not small too..hehehe SOmetimes, i hope we can play PS2 together with MBah also...can you do that MBah?hehe Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:00 AM Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game Tekken di PS2, kalo penasaran sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe. . Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan? Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih profil/blog/ website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar saran aja. Regards, DE Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com menulis: Wah...one of my fav give a statement... .welcome Pak DE. I just want to wusssh for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe. ..we're private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh. btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak penipuan sih. Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka.. Regards, DE 2008/12/2 Dick Q passion8899@ gmail.com Sir, Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih warn akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong is going to be happened. :)) makanya saya bilang simpan aja dalam dapur kalau hanya ingin memberikan warning tanpa ada argumentasi yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. Saya tidak melihat itu suatu rahasia, karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama toh And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi client anda. Cheers, - Original Message - From: SyIFA Fund To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Nope Pak, I will never make such things exist for me, they will cacth me and send me to jail for not paying tax..hehehefor me door to door technique still much better...I love to play PS2with my friend...but we just play soccer. I'm not a big fund, but i'm not small too..hehehe SOmetimes, i hope we can play PS2 together with MBah also...can you do that MBah?hehe Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:00 AM Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game Tekken di PS2, kalo penasaran sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe. . Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan? Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih profil/blog/ website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar saran aja. Regards, DE Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com menulis: Wah...one of my fav give a statement... .welcome Pak DE. I just want to wusssh for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe. ..we're private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh. btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak penipuan sih. Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka.. Regards, DE 2008/12/2 Dick Q passion8899@ gmail.com Sir, Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih warn akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong is going to be happened. :)) makanya saya bilang simpan aja dalam dapur kalau hanya ingin memberikan warning tanpa ada argumentasi yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. Saya tidak melihat itu suatu rahasia, karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama toh And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi client anda. Cheers, - Original Message - From: SyIFA Fund To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Nope Pak, I will never make such things exist for me, they will cacth me and send me to jail for not paying tax..hehehefor me door to door technique still much better...I love to play PS2with my friend...but we just play soccer. I'm not a big fund, but i'm not small too..hehehe SOmetimes, i hope we can play PS2 together with MBah also...can you do that MBah?hehe Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:00 AM Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game Tekken di PS2, kalo penasaran sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe. . Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan? Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih profil/blog/ website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar saran aja. Regards, DE Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com menulis: Wah...one of my fav give a statement... .welcome Pak DE. I just want to wusssh for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe. ..we're private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh. btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak penipuan sih. Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka.. Regards, DE 2008/12/2 Dick Q passion8899@ gmail.com Sir, Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih warn akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong is going to be happened. :)) makanya saya bilang simpan aja dalam dapur kalau hanya ingin memberikan warning tanpa ada argumentasi yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. Saya tidak melihat itu suatu rahasia, karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama toh And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi client anda. Cheers, - Original Message - From: SyIFA Fund To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Nope Pak, I will never make such things exist for me, they will cacth me and send me to jail for not paying tax..hehehefor me door to door technique still much better...I love to play PS2with my friend...but we just play soccer. I'm not a big fund, but i'm not small too..hehehe SOmetimes, i hope we can play PS2 together with MBah also...can you do that MBah?hehe Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 8:00 AM Dean Earwicker itu aslinya nama jagoan di game Tekken di PS2, kalo penasaran sih. Engga ada hubungan ama saham..hehe. . Tapi saya suka aja soalnya kedengerannya ganteng.. wakaka.. boleh kan? Btw, kalo emang Pak Syifa serius mau cari client, coba kita dikasih profil/blog/ website biar kita bisa lihat-lihat profilnya, saya yakin di OB banyak orang kaya yang lagi pegang cash dan bingung mau diapain. Sekedar saran aja. Regards, DE Pada 2 Desember 2008 14:14, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com menulis: Wah...one of my fav give a statement... .welcome Pak DE. I just want to wusssh for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe. ..we're private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com wrote: From: Dean Earwicker dean.earwicker@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh. btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak penipuan sih. Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka.. Regards, DE 2008/12/2 Dick Q passion8899@ gmail.com Sir, Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih warn akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong is going to be happened. :)) makanya saya bilang simpan aja dalam dapur kalau hanya ingin memberikan warning tanpa ada argumentasi yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. Saya tidak melihat itu suatu rahasia, karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama toh And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi client anda. Cheers, - Original Message - From: SyIFA Fund To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Messages in this topic (80) Reply (via web post) | Start a new topic Messages | Files | Photos | Database | Polls + + + + + + + Mohon saat meREPLY posting, text dari posting lama dihapus kecuali diperlukan agar CONTEXTnya jelas. + + + + + + + MARKETPLACE From kitchen basics to easy recipes - join the Group from Kraft Foods Change settings via the Web (Yahoo! ID required) Change settings via email: Switch delivery to Daily Digest | Switch format to Traditional Visit Your Group | Yahoo! Groups Terms of Use | Unsubscribe Recent Activity 8 New MembersVisit Your Group Yahoo! News Fashion News What's the word on fashion and style? Yahoo! Finance It's Now Personal Guides, news, advice more. Y! Groups blog the best source for the latest scoop on Groups. ..
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: GILA semua TEKTOK ketangkep ama ini grafik...
Let's DOWN it one more time before the end of December Mbah, ONE BIG CUT in PRICE..EL it has been worked...I mean the beautiful scenario Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 12/1/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: GILA semua TEKTOK ketangkep ama ini grafik... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 8:40 AM Level 1220 akan jadi LEVEL PENENTUAN... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwuptrend. htm --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Vincent Chase chase.vincent@ ... wrote: kl tembus?cut loss yee? jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: HAJAR LAGI... masih ada 90 menit ampe closing... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: JIKA 1220 engga tembus, HAJAR KANAN LAGI... Ini UPTREND... euy --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ wrote: He3x.. Ketangkep basah sama Embah nih... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: IHSG 1223, GILA semua TEKTOK ketangkep ama ini grafik... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwuptrend. htm
Re: [obrolan-bandar] i love this game...!
EL, don't be too rude on him, he's just another kid that want to express his childish happiness...just DROP the B#m# from your plane and LET the bloody RUSH take IT place. P.S: There is no PEACE, IF there is no WAR (hehe) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] i love this game...! To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 8:22 AM Ooh marah ya.. if being popular is really that matter to you, then please be my guest. And don't use disclaimer. Let see how good you really are without my support. Elaine 2008/12/1 artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] co.id follow to the north sampe full loaded. I LOVE THIS GAME. to Elaine: BLAH ps: peace to bearwarrior. jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ centrin.net. id wrote: Jangan percaya ama Embah atau analisa TA.. The NAME of the GAME is: FOLLOW THE WAVE... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] . wrote: embah sbg panglima tertinggi sudah perintahkan semua pasukan utk serbu.. tunggu apa lagi. hajar semua...!!! pak halim bagaimana? sudah maju ke garis depan? Pak JT. bagaimana situasi garis belakang? jangan sampai kecolongan. elaine. BLAH BLAH BLAH. Pak DE situasi bagaimna? mendukungkah untuk menyusup ke jantung musuh? head to head dah dilakukan. score masih oke. Bravo BULL Warrior salam. artomoro9. (the first striker anything) jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@ ... wrote: HAJAR LAGI... masih ada 90 menit ampe closing... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: JIKA 1220 engga tembus, HAJAR KANAN LAGI... Ini UPTREND... euy --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ wrote: He3x.. Ketangkep basah sama Embah nih... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: IHSG 1223, GILA semua TEKTOK ketangkep ama ini grafik... http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ piwuptrend. htm DISCLAIMER ON - - --- Dapatkan nama yang Anda sukai! Sekarang Anda dapat memiliki email di @ymail.com dan @rocketmail.com. DISCLAIMER ON Menambah banyak teman sangatlah mudah dan cepat. Undang teman dari Hotmail, Gmail ke Yahoo! Messenger sekarang!
RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT, UNTR
Let me give you an easy example: If you know that gasoline price will be IDR 5500 tomorrow, would you buy it now at IDR 6000??? Yes it's true that this is just assumption, now it just depend on your belief, just create your MARGIN OF SAFETY, so you will hold stock without doubt in your heart, make your life easier and happier ever after. That's what your own statement mean Ms Felicia. Believe in yourself (and your own analysis) coz it will sharpen your analysis. NB: I always warn OB member when the market will be DOWN. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Felicia Rumondor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Felicia Rumondor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT, UNTR To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 4:55 PM Yakin Pak JT merahnya cuma 1 hari aja(besok).. .kayaknya lebih dari 1 hari dehJadi akumulasinya kapan kira2 pak JT..besok atau lusa(lebih murah)?? --- On Mon, 12/1/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT, UNTR To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 4:08 PM Tenang ajaaa…, kayak ngga pernah liat DOW merah aja…hehehe…., biasa itu.., besok gimana?? Paling bearwaria pada nongol lagi…, hehe…, kita mah menyelinap aja diem-diem…, cari saham favorite anda yg jatuh dalem dgn vol kecil…, ballpark; kalau saham jatuh rame-rame, ngga usah takut, kalau jatuh sendirian baru hati-hati…., kalau dikasih room, short barang sendiri.., tapi jangan pagi-pagi.., biasanya udah dijeblosin dulu…, tunggu siangan dikit. JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of any pudjiastuti Sent: 01 Desember 2008 22:18 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT, UNTR DJ dibuka merah, gimana besok pagi Pak? 2008/12/1 rudyho [EMAIL PROTECTED] comPak JT itu mbacanya gimana ya? Koq ada Blot Slot Tlot Bfrq Sfrq Tfrq? Kalau B=Buy S=Sell koq bisa ndak sama ya? Mohon pencerahannya. .. MakasihSent from my BlackBerry® powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: JsxTrader Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 20:18:49 +0700 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comSubject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT, UNTR sori Mr. Big Fat.., emailnya kelewat…., weleh, saya tadi ngga ngeh UNTR ternyata AR kiri toh?? Gile…, barusan saya coba liat chartnya dan liat trade donenya.., wah ternyata harga nyelonong dari 3825 sampe AR tampa perlawanan berarti.., baru sore harinya ada order-order gede di harga AR (3600)…, ahh ini mah di short sama BDnya sendiri kali.., sadis juga tuh BD.., tapi ngga tau juga ya.., yg jelas jatuh nyelonong dengan vol tipis.., mungkin keseret-seret ASII kali…. kalau liat polanya, harusnya tadi berani BOW…, coba aja liat intraday beberapa hari kebelakang, upside pressure kuat banget.., BD belum sempet jualan.., jadi kayaknya sengaja dijorokin.., ngga tau maksudnya apa.., yg jelas meskipun AR, volume kecil…, terakhir dimakanin lagi.., (see order table below)… Error! Filename not specified. Error! Filename not specified. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of Big Fat Sent: 01 Desember 2008 10:51 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pak JT, UNTR Pak JT, UNTR gimana hari ini, tolong intipin dong? No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 11/30/2008 5:53 PM
RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak JT...hebuat.against the BEAR.what an amazing marketBULL v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for today) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh…., dipilih-dipilih…., udh seringkan kejadian seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg terbengong-bengong liat IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg mengharapkan koreksi seperti hari ini…, hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama TLKM nih…, lom dikasih-kasih… , PGAS kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far BDnya sangat ‘bertanggung jawab’…hehe Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell at resistance… From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Pak JT, kalo ngeliat ada yg bisa dicopet2, kabar2-i ya. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:46 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini 15 menit pertama ngga jelek-jelek amat lah…, awas kegocek bule !! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not jokingI'm telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the undervalued one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send WARNING if something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at some of my post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term view will be great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or bargain hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or lost their money so much). If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner, then BUY carefully. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM I really don’t know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi cash ikut Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull….haha, they both give so many opportunity for trader…., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa menebarkan FEAR doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lain…, sebab basically, tampa mesti ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu ketakutan dan gampang panic. Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama DOW.., jangan lupa, bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usual…, don’t you think so, Sir? Regards,JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of SyIFA Fund Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak JT...hebuat. ...against the BEAR. .what an amazing marketBULL v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for today) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com wrote:From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AMWah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh…., dipilih-dipilih…., udh seringkan kejadian seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg terbengong-bengong liat IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg mengharapkan koreksi seperti hari ini…, hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama TLKM nih…, lom dikasih-kasih… , PGAS kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far BDnya sangat ‘bertanggung jawab’…hehe Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell at resistance… From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Pak JT, kalo ngeliat ada yg bisa dicopet2, kabar2-i ya. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps.com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:46 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini 15 menit pertama ngga jelek-jelek amat lah…, awas kegocek bule !! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
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Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business diversities. I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach my target price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3 different brokerage firms.. and i learned so much from my 3 accounts what should i do to be a good investor, because i used different method on my 3 accounts. Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. What i'm trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me. So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some valuation. For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT, EL, and others). Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA DAPUR...HEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?). Luv u all, PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir... Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not jokingI'm telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the undervalued one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send WARNING if something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at some of my post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term view will be great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or bargain hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or lost their money so much).. If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner, then BUY carefully. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi cash ikut Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull….haha, they both give so many opportunity for trader…., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa menebarkan FEAR doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lain…, sebab basically, tampa mesti ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu ketakutan dan gampang panic. Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama DOW.., jangan lupa, bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usual…, don't you think so, Sir? Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of SyIFA Fund Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak JT...hebuat. ...against the BEAR .what an amazing marketBULL v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for today) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh…., dipilih-dipilih… ., udh seringkan kejadian seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg terbengong-bengong liat IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg mengharapkan koreksi seperti hari ini…, hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama TLKM nih…, lom dikasih-kasih… , PGAS kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far BDnya sangat 'bertanggung jawab'…hehe Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell at resistance… From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar
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Nope Pak JT, you're my friend, happy trading then. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:42 AM Tentu Sir, trading is not a GAME, it is a serious business, so we must not only just play carefully but we must play extremely careful.., thanks for the warning. Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of SyIFA Fund Sent: 02 Desember 2008 11:21 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not jokingI' m telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the undervalued one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send WARNING if something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at some of my post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term view will be great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or bargain hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or lost their money so much). If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner, then BUY carefully. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM I really don’t know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi cash ikut Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull….haha, they both give so many opportunity for trader…., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa menebarkan FEAR doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lain…, sebab basically, tampa mesti ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu ketakutan dan gampang panic. Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama DOW.., jangan lupa, bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usual…, don’t you think so, Sir? Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of SyIFA Fund Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak JT...hebuat. ...against the BEAR .what an amazing marketBULL v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for today) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] ..com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh…., dipilih-dipilih…., udh seringkan kejadian seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg terbengong-bengong liat IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg mengharapkan koreksi seperti hari ini…, hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama TLKM nih…, lom dikasih-kasih… , PGAS kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far BDnya sangat ‘bertanggung jawab’…hehe Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell at resistance… From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Pak JT, kalo ngeliat ada yg bisa dicopet2, kabar2-i ya. From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of JsxTrader Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2008 12:46 PM To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini 15 menit pertama ngga jelek-jelek amat lah…, awas kegocek bule !! No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg. com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.12/1821 - Release Date: 12/1/2008 7:59 PM
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Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business diversities. I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach my target price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3 different brokerage firms.. and i learned so much from my 3 accounts what should i do to be a good investor, because i used different method on my 3 accounts. Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. What i'm trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me. So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some valuation. For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT, EL, and others). Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA DAPUR...HEHE..BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?). Luv u all, PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir... Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not jokingI'm telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the undervalued one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send WARNING if something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at some of my post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term view will be great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or bargain hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or lost their money so much).. If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner, then BUY carefully. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi cash ikut Pak Oen, kalau lagi Full ikut Bull….haha, they both give so many opportunity for trader…., tapi saya akan lawan orang-orang yg Cuma bisa menebarkan FEAR doang, karena sangat merugikan orang lain…, sebab basically, tampa mesti ditakut-takuti, mereka sdh terlalu ketakutan dan gampang panic. Well, seperti kata Mbah, market lama-lama juga imun sama DOW.., jangan lupa, bargain hunter siap serbu wall street as usual…, don't you think so, Sir? Regards, JsxTrader From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of SyIFA Fund Sent: 02 Desember 2008 10:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Incredible struggling from what so called BULL WARRIOR Pak JT...hebuat. ...against the BEAR .what an amazing marketBULL v.s BEAR (which one you will pick to be the winner for today) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] .com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 3:41 AM Wah banyak yg bisa dibekel tuh…., dipilih-dipilih… ., udh seringkan kejadian seperti hari ini kan? Dua hari lalu saat banyak yg terbengong-bengong liat IHSG naik kenceng, pasti banyak yg mengharapkan koreksi seperti hari ini…, hehe.., saya masih nawar PTBA sama TLKM nih…, lom dikasih-kasih… , PGAS kelihatannya cukup kuat, so far BDnya sangat 'bertanggung jawab'…hehe Dalam masa sideways ini, gereral rulenya; Buy at support.., Sell at resistance… From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:obrolan- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ps..com] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Sent: 02 Desember 2008 9:49 To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar
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I believe that you won't be my client, 1st Q: do you have min USD 100.000? IF yes then you can be my client. 2nd Q: Can you hold that amount for one year at least? IF yes then you can be my client. (I'm not joking...I'm telling you). Even my clients never want to ask what stocks that i'm invested in.. They're just enjoy the return that they got from me. I have seen so many incredible people here. They do TA and they're good. My position is not to give you any clues which stock should be bought or sold because you already had that people to tell you. LET ME CLEAR MY POSITION ONCE AGAIN. My position is to warn you if something WRONG is going to be happened. Hope that my statement will answer your question. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dick Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dick Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:19 AM ya sudah...kalo jadi rahasia dapur, simpan aja semua saran anda dalam dapur anda bikin mumet aja...pake bahasa bule lagi. atau anda lagi cari client ? cheers, - Original Message - From: SyIFA Fund To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business diversities. I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach my target price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3 different brokerage firms.. and i learned so much from my 3 accounts what should i do to be a good investor, because i used different method on my 3 accounts. Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. What i'm trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me.. So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some valuation. For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT, EL, and others). Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA DAPURHEHE. .BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?). Luv u all, PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund ---
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Thanks Bu Fifi, Hey...I'm watching Bloomberg TV and seeing a beautiful girl in blue dress.is that you? :) Good Point; BUT some of commodities, com metal, agriculture, banking and optional are not in mine. Infrastructure stocks are no longer included in my portfolio (long time ago YES). Happy cuan for all. I'm sure that MBah and Pak JT suggestion are enough for you because sometimes I follow them but not in other times (if we are not in the same page). I don't want to add more disputes in this mailist because i love this mailist so much. Enjoy the 2nd session to you all. May God strengthen your will. My Apologize to MBah and others today; I'm so sorry to make inconvenience situation on mailist. I'm just human with emotion. :) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: fifi young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:41 AM Pak Rei, Let me give you some clues: Commodities : BUMI, PTBA, ITMG, MEDC Com Metal : ANTM, TINS, INCO Agriculture : AALI, SGRO, LSIP, UNSP Energy : PGAS Banking : BBRI, BBCA, BMRI, BDMN Infra Structure : TLKM, ISAT Consumer Goods : UNVR, INDF Optional : ASII, UNTR, HEXA Ah, yang begini mach Nubie-pun tau ... Tinggal pilih aja... Ato kalo mo gampang biar nyenyak tidur.. BUY disaat market berdarah-darah, lebih dalem., belinya tambah banyak.. .. simple 'kan?! he... he... Kalo Mbah ma Pak JT jaga rahasia dapur... .., milis OB... B U B A R dech... On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 12:02 PM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business diversities. I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach my target price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3 different brokerage firms.. and i learned so much from my 3 accounts what should i do to be a good investor, because i used different method on my 3 accounts. Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. What i'm trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me.. So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some valuation. For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT, EL, and others). Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA DAPURHEHE...BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?). Luv u all, PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com wrote: From: Rei highwaystar91@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:24 AM I agree, and thanks for the warning Sir... Care to share which stocks you invest in? Thanks! On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 11:21 AM, SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: Yup it's true that market always get panic, but do not forget that some big BD (some of them are friends of mineI'm not joking.I'm telling you remind me of my lecturer fabulous statement) still try to sell their stock at higher, i'm not a bargain hunter, i'm not a trader, i'm just an investor who hold his stock and always try to find the undervalued one for the sake of my clients, i don't send FEAR but i send WARNING if something is going to be happened in near terms. Just look at some of my post. Actually i love stocks that i'm involved in. Long term view will be great (buy and just hold) but short term view (like trading or bargain hunter) would be in extreme position (either earned so much or lost their money so much). If you are a trader, just PLAY carefully. If you are the owner, then BUY carefully. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com wrote: From: JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 4:00 AM I really don't know Sir.., saya friend of both.., kalau lagi cash ikut Pak Oen
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Hehehe...no problem Pak Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dick Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dick Q [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:38 AM Sir, Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih warn akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong is going to be happened. :)) makanya saya bilang simpan aja dalam dapur kalau hanya ingin memberikan warning tanpa ada argumentasi yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. Saya tidak melihat itu suatu rahasia, karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama toh And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi client anda. Cheers, - Original Message - From: SyIFA Fund To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini I believe that you won't be my client, 1st Q: do you have min USD 100.000? IF yes then you can be my client. 2nd Q: Can you hold that amount for one year at least? IF yes then you can be my client. (I'm not joking...I'm telling you). Even my clients never want to ask what stocks that i'm invested in.. They're just enjoy the return that they got from me. I have seen so many incredible people here. They do TA and they're good. My position is not to give you any clues which stock should be bought or sold because you already had that people to tell you. LET ME CLEAR MY POSITION ONCE AGAIN. My position is to warn you if something WRONG is going to be happened. Hope that my statement will answer your question. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dick Q passion8899@ gmail.com wrote: From: Dick Q passion8899@ gmail.com Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 5:19 AM ya sudah...kalo jadi rahasia dapur, simpan aja semua saran anda dalam dapur anda bikin mumet aja...pake bahasa bule lagi. atau anda lagi cari client ? cheers, - Original Message - From: SyIFA Fund To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:02 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini Yes Pak Rei, I've been a trader for commodities (specially energy and agriculture products), property and had been working in some banking and also in one of investment banking so I had some relatives with business diversities. I bought their stocks at really low price in past. And always accumulate them when their undervalued and IF they reach my target price, I'll release them. I'm sorry. I can't tell you my portfolio. It's my RAHASIA DAPUR. No one knows except my trader. I've 3 trader at 3 different brokerage firms.. and i learned so much from my 3 accounts what should i do to be a good investor, because i used different method on my 3 accounts. Like what i said, i buy stocks which i'm involved in. What i'm trying to say here, i never buy stocks in speculative manner, i always buy them if i know exactly what they are. INFORMATION is PRICELESS for me.. So I ALWAYS try to get INFORMATION as much as i can, do FILTERING, and if possible getting close with the OWNER. Then get my EXCEL and do some valuation. For me, TA is helpful when i'm going to sell them. I'm not good in TA so I watch OB and that's really helpful. (Thank you so much for MBah, Pak JT, EL, and others). Mbah, actually, I'm really happy to be your mailist member. Thank you very much from my deepest heart to Mbah. For Pak Rei: Sorry, i can't tell you my portfolio (RAHASIA DAPURHEHE. .BUKAN RAHASIA TEMPAT TIDUR YA?). Luv u all, PS : JUst believe in your analysis, always SHARPEN it. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund ---
Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Wah...one of my fav give a statementwelcome Pak DE. I just want to wusssh for now...not mood in unended dispute...hehe...we're private...well, name is just a name...how bout your name? :) Why not Bapepam? So many reasons. You must have known why. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:55 AM wah, OB udah mulai tambah hot nih, tanda-tanda alam. Si Bozz ngirim provokator2 buat mancing emosi trader (hyper optimis vs hyper pesimis, ekstrim), krn bozz tahu emotion control itu salah satu senjata trader. Kalau emosi di acak2, kita gak bisa trading di jalan yang lurus. Kali loh. btw, tadinya sy kira Syifa itu nama cewek taunya cowok ya. Saya cari di google engga ada perusahaan Syifa Fund.. Private Equity ya? Wah kalo ngaku FM tapi engga terdaftar di bapepam, maaf ya, rada kurang percaya gitu. Soalnya banyak penipuan sih. Dan satu hal yang engga kalah pentingnya, saya baru farewell party sama mbek2 kesayangan. 40% gain in 2 month, bozz aja gak dapet segitu.. wakakaka.. Regards, DE 2008/12/2 Dick Q passion8899@ gmail.com Sir, Di Milis ini, sejak index 2800-an sudah ada senior member yg kasih warn akan kejatuhan ekonomi yg terjadi saat ini. Sekarang index 1191, anda berbaik hati memberikan Warning about something wrong is going to be happened. :)) makanya saya bilang simpan aja dalam dapur kalau hanya ingin memberikan warning tanpa ada argumentasi yg bisa menjadi masukan bagi kita semua. Cape de. Di sini saya tahu beberapa member yg handle private client, mereka tetap berbagi opinion about stocks yg mereka pilih. Saya tidak melihat itu suatu rahasia, karena dalam market tidak ada rahasia. Kalaupun kebetulan kita punya posisi yg sama, cuan nya belum tentu sama toh And Please Note.. Kalaupun saya punya duit banyak... PASTI saya tidak akan jadi client anda. Cheers, - Original Message - From: SyIFA Fund To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:31 PM Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] IHSG hari ini
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI : Detik Penutupan Jumat.
Some bad news will be arrived this week from regional and uncle sam [i don't want to say anything about Indo because if I said wrong then I get jailed :)]. Just wait what will be happened to IDX and bource around the world. Remainder: Large cap stock has become Mid Cap or even Small Cap (So, how low can you go?) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 12/1/08, Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI : Detik Penutupan Jumat. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 12:11 AM Menjelang penutupan Jumat kemarin AK membeli BUMI dalam jumlah lumayan besar.Apakah ini Spekulasi atau Antisipasi? Sedangkan posisi beberapa broker Asing beberapa hari sebelumnya, adalah SELL. Kalau menurut saya ini Antisipasi:- Karena kalau tidak ditarik ke harga Rp.1000, maka bila terjadi rejection kebawah,maka harga BUMI akan anjlok dibawah Rp.800. Dengan penarikan ini, maka maksimal hari ini cuma turun 10% (sekitar Rp.9xx) Apalagi dari berita yang didapat setelah DI belum jelas. Mungkin ada yang punya info lebih detail ? SalamJACK
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: full ammo for tommorow
Ok then, just do what you should do.
Regards,
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund
--- On Mon, 11/24/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: full ammo for tommorow
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 8:06 AM
Frighten? I'was just saying 'Hello Art, you got my attention', why so afraid?
It is their own right to lose money. ^_^
Elaine
2008/11/24 SyIFA Fund [EMAIL PROTECTED] com
Don't frightened them up Elaine, just let it flow as usual. B#m# has been set
up.
Regards,
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund
--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com wrote:
From: Elaine Sui elainesui83@ gmail.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: full ammo for tommorow
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:40 PM
Just passing by. Who knows I can get some profit from this group discussion..
Maybe from you or someone else here ^_^ (Hey I'm just being honest, don't
stare at me like that, man.. geez..)
Elaine
2008/11/23 Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ yahoo.com
He3x,akhirnya muncul juga dikau darling..
Apa kbr Elaine, kmn aza selama ini ga prnh keliatan.
Kangen juga denganmu lama tak jumpa.
Btw, ada tanda Alam apa ini El??..
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ...
wrote:
*I'm watching you.
Elaine**
*
2008/11/23 artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
masa sudah di kasi sasaran tembak sama begawan embah, gak di tembak
juga. hehehe. lompat kodok ke 1210 sih mudah nih kayaknya.
kalo cuaca regional mendukung sih. semoga ga ada yg ganggu.
salam,
artomoro9 (jangan jual murah saham anda)
*Vic victor_sperandeo@ ...* wrote:
dow loncat 6,54% masa masih pakai taktik gerilya sih?
blue sky scenario:
beberapa hot stocks ar kanan.
tapi ihsg cuma naik 5%. soalnya bumi tetep ar kiri hehehe.
bumi is still the sum of all fear.
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com,
fifi young fifiyoung03@
wrote:
Hayooo.. ...!
Jangan sampe ketinggalan kereta...!
Isi amunisi anda besok pagi fully loaded...!
Kita ikut geriliya dengan Mbah...!
Semoga sukses!
2008/11/23 ruzli indeksbei3000@
Thanks atas daftarnya MBAH..
Untuk sektor Finance, mohon di cek lagi Price as of 28 Okt ???
Thank U
9|BBRI |Bank Rakyat Indonesi|FINA |BANK | 1.375| 51| 60|
1.525|
4.050| 2.525|130.803| 110|
2008/11/22 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@
To push HIGHER swing, embah add more AMMO for next Monday:
50 stocks: http://www.invest20 00.net/ZZIDSUM2. TXT
--- In
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com
obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com,
jsx_consultant jsx-
consultant@ wrote:
THIS IS HIGH RISK !
SWING TRADING HIT LIST (Trader Brigade 1089)
21 November 2008 11:03 WIB
IHSG saat ini 1103, mendekati PREVIOUS LOW SUPPORT 1089.
Jika 1089 BISA BERTAHAN, lakukan SWING TRADING atas saham saham
dibawah:
Note:
- Daftar saham ini dibuat berdasarankan RENTANG SWING yg
TERBESAR
ketika IHSG rebound dari tgl 28/10/08 sampai tgl 05/11/08
- Daftar ini diurut berdasarkan PENURUNAN TERBESAR sejak
05/11/08
sampai kemarin tgl 20/11/08
Risk:
- This is a high risk swing trading but if the index
rebound, the
reward is good.
- DJI masih turun lagi nanti malam.
- Jika IHSG menjebol KEBAWAH level 1089, EXIT !!!
DAFTAR HIT LIST: http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ ZZIDSUM1. TXT
DISCLAIMER ON
- -
Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo!
Indonesiahttp://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ mail/id/footer/ def/*http: //id.yahoo.
com/yang
baru!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: full ammo for tommorow
Don't frightened them up Elaine, just let it flow as usual. B#m# has been set
up.
Regards,
SF FM
Where you can trust your fund
--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From: Elaine Sui [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: full ammo for tommorow
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 4:40 PM
Just passing by. Who knows I can get some profit from this group discussion..
Maybe from you or someone else here ^_^ (Hey I'm just being honest, don't
stare at me like that, man.. geez..)
Elaine
2008/11/23 Petualang Saham petualang.saham@ yahoo.com
He3x,akhirnya muncul juga dikau darling..
Apa kbr Elaine, kmn aza selama ini ga prnh keliatan.
Kangen juga denganmu lama tak jumpa.
Btw, ada tanda Alam apa ini El??..
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Elaine Sui elainesui83@ ...
wrote:
*I'm watching you.
Elaine**
*
2008/11/23 artomoro9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] .
masa sudah di kasi sasaran tembak sama begawan embah, gak di tembak
juga. hehehe. lompat kodok ke 1210 sih mudah nih kayaknya.
kalo cuaca regional mendukung sih. semoga ga ada yg ganggu.
salam,
artomoro9 (jangan jual murah saham anda)
*Vic victor_sperandeo@ ...* wrote:
dow loncat 6,54% masa masih pakai taktik gerilya sih?
blue sky scenario:
beberapa hot stocks ar kanan.
tapi ihsg cuma naik 5%. soalnya bumi tetep ar kiri hehehe.
bumi is still the sum of all fear.
--- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com,
fifi young fifiyoung03@
wrote:
Hayooo.. ...!
Jangan sampe ketinggalan kereta...!
Isi amunisi anda besok pagi fully loaded...!
Kita ikut geriliya dengan Mbah...!
Semoga sukses!
2008/11/23 ruzli indeksbei3000@
Thanks atas daftarnya MBAH.
Untuk sektor Finance, mohon di cek lagi Price as of 28 Okt ???
Thank U
9|BBRI |Bank Rakyat Indonesi|FINA |BANK | 1.375| 51| 60|
1.525|
4.050| 2.525|130.803| 110|
2008/11/22 jsx_consultant jsx-consultant@
To push HIGHER swing, embah add more AMMO for next Monday:
50 stocks: http://www.invest20 00.net/ZZIDSUM2. TXT
--- In
obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. comobrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com
obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups. com,
jsx_consultant jsx-
consultant@ wrote:
THIS IS HIGH RISK !
SWING TRADING HIT LIST (Trader Brigade 1089)
21 November 2008 11:03 WIB
IHSG saat ini 1103, mendekati PREVIOUS LOW SUPPORT 1089
Jika 1089 BISA BERTAHAN, lakukan SWING TRADING atas saham saham
dibawah:
Note:
- Daftar saham ini dibuat berdasarankan RENTANG SWING yg
TERBESAR
ketika IHSG rebound dari tgl 28/10/08 sampai tgl 05/11/08
- Daftar ini diurut berdasarkan PENURUNAN TERBESAR sejak
05/11/08
sampai kemarin tgl 20/11/08
Risk:
- This is a high risk swing trading but if the index
rebound, the
reward is good.
- DJI masih turun lagi nanti malam.
- Jika IHSG menjebol KEBAWAH level 1089, EXIT !!!
DAFTAR HIT LIST: http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ ZZIDSUM1. TXT
DISCLAIMER ON
- -
Kunjungi halaman depan Yahoo!
Indonesiahttp://sg.rd. yahoo.com/ mail/id/footer/ def/*http: //id.yahoo.
com/yang
baru!
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CITIGROUP dibail out sama Pemerintah US
You have to check on their off balance sheet, most of them are mortgage assets which could be harmful, look at America data that is just released this noon (at Indonesia time), the housing price is still going down and many analyst still predict the movement will be kept in that trend. Just for additional info. Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Mon, 11/24/08, agoes_htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: agoes_htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CITIGROUP dibail out sama Pemerintah US To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, November 24, 2008, 6:28 AM Citigroup merupakan icon financial assets US, dan perusahaan ini sangat wajar diselamatkan karena mempunyai masa depan yang bagus. Pangeran Arab bersedia menyuntik modal ke Citigroup juga. Lets hope for the best, pak. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, FromBuitenzorg frombuitenzorg@ ... wrote: Pastinys citigroup kesulitan finansial, dan pemerintah US udah bail- out, mungkin program bailout gagal (?) --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, agoes_htm agoes_htm@ wrote: http://online. wsj.com/article/ SB12274768075255 1447.html? mod=testMod Barusan berita ini keluar, makanya dow fut bisa ijo. Bisa jadi sentimen positif buat bull warrior.
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Trader Brigade 1089 (SWING TRADING HIT LIST)
I just want to say...hati-hati...uhuk...uhukkk (I'm growing older)...young means wild...old means wise??? Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 11/21/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Trader Brigade 1089 (SWING TRADING HIT LIST) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 7:22 AM Posisi 1140 (-14), pasukan masih bergerak maju +37 point keUTARA. Pasukan menyerbu dengan BRUTAL, lapar mengkali udah BEBERAPA hari engga pernah untung... hehehe... Bring the prisoner home, take them alive and masukin karung. --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. wrote: Pasukan Regional Allies (sekutu) IKUT melakukan perlawanan pasukan Brigade 1089.. Regional jadi beo OB hehehe... (liat index regional) Nanti abis Jumatan, Kita kerahkan semua pasukan sekaligus, MAJU SEMUA BARENG BARENG !!! Yang diluar HIT LIST juga HAJAR --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Score sementara +23 dari 1103 (IHSG= 1126) Brigade 1089 mau Jumatan ama nyari Ammo buat peruthehehe. . --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: Brigade 1089 move 16 point NORTH --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, jsx_consultant jsx- consultant@ wrote: THIS IS HIGH RISK ! SWING TRADING HIT LIST (Trader Brigade 1089) 21 November 2008 11:03 WIB IHSG saat ini 1103, mendekati PREVIOUS LOW SUPPORT 1089 Jika 1089 BISA BERTAHAN, lakukan SWING TRADING atas saham saham dibawah: Note: - Daftar saham ini dibuat berdasarankan RENTANG SWING yg TERBESAR ketika IHSG rebound dari tgl 28/10/08 sampai tgl 05/11/08 - Daftar ini diurut berdasarkan PENURUNAN TERBESAR sejak 05/11/08 sampai kemarin tgl 20/11/08 Risk: - This is a high risk swing trading but if the index rebound, the reward is good. - DJI masih turun lagi nanti malam. - Jika IHSG menjebol KEBAWAH level 1089, EXIT !!! DAFTAR HIT LIST: http://www.obrolanb andar.com/ ZZIDSUM1. TXT
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Trader Brigade 1089 (SWING TRADING HIT LIST)
Hahaha...Mbah is still the BEST and the BEASTbravo --- On Fri, 11/21/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Trader Brigade 1089 (SWING TRADING HIT LIST) To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 8:52 AM --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, SyIFA Fund syifa.fund@ ... wrote: I just want to say...hati- hati...uhuk. ..uhukkk (I'm growing older)...young means wild...old means wise??? Embah mau maen jadi OLD DIRTY HARRY (Clint Eastwood) aja deh...hehehe. . 15:50 IHSG yg tadi udah ijo tipis sekarang turun ke -14 di 1140, Oke let's do FINAL ATTACK , the Dirty Harry's Ways... hehehe...
Re: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Artomoro ketiduran...
I'm agree w/ you Bu Felicia, too many people say BUY but actually they SELL off..hahaha...that's definitely true..although in market with LOW LIQUIDITY like today, BD still can't ride the market UP...which mean? (ANSWER IT BY YOURSELF) Regards, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Felicia Rumondor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Felicia Rumondor [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pak Artomoro ketiduran... To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:46 AM Hello Pak Arto..bangun- bangun warungnya udah buka,katanya mau belanja BUMI..masih big sale loh pak,..sebenernya bapak mau belanja atau mau jualan sih?
Re: [obrolan-bandar] serbu BUMI ? masa sih ga berani. Re: buy back Bumi
Dear Pak Halim, I'm agree that only one of ten people whom playing stocks win the game.Why?because they're not investor (hehe..)...they're thinking that they're an investor but actually they're not.. Some of them called themselves an investor but once again they're not... There are three types of person in capital market: 1. Investor : real investor, buying for living 2. Trader included BD: looking for low price and hit at high price 3. Speculator: buying for gambling, maybe Pak Icchanks is one of them (but once again maybe...sorry if I'm wrong). Many people thinks that capital market is a shortcut to be rich. SOME people can do so, but MANY are not.Don't blame the seminar cause they're damned good enough but be selective. To be a GOOD player in capital market you have to be discipline, double-hearted (or maybe triple if not double), and you should learn a lot from your failure. Failure is a failure and not road to success, but if you can correct them then it will be your success. Cheers All, SF FM Where you can trust your fund --- On Wed, 11/19/08, Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Halim Mintareja [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] serbu BUMI ? masa sih ga berani. Re: buy back Bumi To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, November 19, 2008, 10:31 PM Lho sejak kapan investor tidak dirugikan 9 dari 10 pemain pasar modal adalah orang rugi..dari dulu juga gitu koq. siapa bilang saham bisa dibiarkan tanpa diawasi. Player saham adalah pekerjaan yang berat..sama seperti pekerjaan-pekerjaan lainnya. Tiap hari kita harus siap mental, analisa FA, menebak komposisi bandar. Tarik garis TA. tanpa persiapan seperti itu... minggir aja ingat kata orang pintar.. Kalau bekerja jangan setengah-setengah 2008/11/20 icchanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Kalau gini caranya, kepercayaan pada pasar modal udah gak ada lagi karena yang paling dirugikan selalu investor. Saya masih ingat ikut seminar-seminar pasar modal setahun lalu yang isinya bagus-bagus semua, stocks for living lah, hahaha ternyata cuman jebakan ngajak masyarakat buat beli barang busuk, malah boz bei pernah recommend saham ini di salah satu seminar... --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, hendra_bujang@ ... wrote: Jadi kesimpulannya: terbitkan MTN (surat hutang) utk tukar guling dgn saham yang di-REPO? Paper Vs Paper? No cash payment Yang gak mau ditukar dgn MTN, terpaksa jual di pasar dengan harga murah (apalagi OFFER nya kayak gunung pasir) dan yang tidak mau kehilangan uangnya, terpaksa tukar saham REPO dgn MTN sembari berharap harap cemas Begitu dapat saham REPO, sahamnya diREPO lagi utk buy back saham saham hasil cut loss ?? So?. . .kalau bisa buy back harga murah kenapa harus di 2500? How low can u go Buy or Sell?? Sent from my BlackBerry� powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT
