RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELLAINE WORKS HARD FOR THE MONEY.

2008-03-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Strateginya apa pak T Bumi ... is it hit  run for one day trading? 



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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tbumi
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:03 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELLAINE WORKS HARD FOR THE MONEY.

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Elaine 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hahaha very funny it's classified, John. How much did you make 
this
 year, mate?
 
 Elaine
 
 On 3/24/08, Bumi T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  Hi Ellaine,
 
 SIP : TBUMI
Ditahun 2007 profit kami hampir 250% dari total investasi kami,
karena market sangat bagus saat itu.
Di Maret 2008 profit kami 10% karena utk bulan ini memang market
tak bagus. Bila market bagus, maka target kami selalu dapat 
15% sampai 20% perbulan.
Kami juga sdh ganti strategi main kami disaat ada resesi mortgage
tanpa harus CL atau nge short barang. 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI TLKM sama2 ketemu di 8500???!!!!

2008-03-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Menurut sayaKalo tanda2 kandidat partai Demokrat di US bakal menang
jadi next president... boleh tuh mulai switchingnya... Disclaimer ON



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Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:00 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI  TLKM sama2 ketemu di 8500???

 

Embah,kapan ya waktu itu tiba. Kita smua ini lagi tunggu2 the
truely switching scenario from the Bozz...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELLAINE WORKS HARD FOR THE MONEY.

2008-03-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Boleh dishare postingannya lagi pak... pelajaran bagus buat kita2ma
kasih beratzzz seblumnya...



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tbumi
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:20 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELLAINE WORKS HARD FOR THE MONEY.

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Prasetyo, Hani 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Strateginya apa pak T Bumi ... is it hit  run for one day trading? 
 
 
 SIP : TBUMI
Sabar menunggu dan ada cash money emergency. Jangan lupa dgn
posting kami POLA AMAN di akhir tahun 2007.

- Market panik BUY = Investor harus sell
- Market panik SELL = Investor harus berani beli 
- Investor harus tahu pergerakan harga saham BC apa yg sdh penurunan 
terendah atau sdh mulai naik.
- Doa optimis dan Ho Ki juga penting. 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELLAINE WORKS HARD FOR THE MONEY.

2008-03-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Lha wong Elaine ini kelahiran babel - bangka belitung... masih sodaraan
ma sandra dewi koq... jelas mudeng bahasalah...

Hi El salam kenal nice to know u more... hehehe...

 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elaine
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:39 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ELLAINE WORKS HARD FOR THE MONEY.

 

I understand bahasa, dear. Yes, I read your email, but I'm confused.
Were you asking for confirmation, or else? cuz both are not available
now.. :D

WHERE ARE YOU GUYS? I thought you wanna break my barriers...? Ok, should
I open a bit? let's see if you have the guts to enter. 

Elaine

On 3/24/08, deso_trader [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

pak TBUMI, percuma aja nulis dalam bahasa indonesia si elaine kagak
ngartos kalo saya liat posting2an dia.. semuanya yg harus ada bhs
londonya.. baru dia balas...

 

 

On 3/24/08, tbumi [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Elaine 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 hahaha very funny it's classified, John. How much did you
make 
this
 year, mate?
 
 Elaine
 
 On 3/24/08, Bumi T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  Hi Ellaine,
 
 SIP : TBUMI
Ditahun 2007 profit kami hampir 250% dari total investasi kami,
karena market sangat bagus saat itu.
Di Maret 2008 profit kami 10% karena utk bulan ini memang market
tak bagus. Bila market bagus, maka target kami selalu dapat 
15% sampai 20% perbulan.
Kami juga sdh ganti strategi main kami disaat ada resesi
mortgage
tanpa harus CL atau nge short barang. 

 

 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] POLA AKUMULASI sudah terlihat

2008-03-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

He3..pake ilmu tongkat penggebuk anjing ya mbah... bisa lebih
transaparan mbah...saham AB saham sejenis atau bisa beda mbah? tks bt
infonya...



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:46 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] POLA AKUMULASI sudah terlihat

 

POLA AKUMULASI sudah terlihat

Banyak yg bingung kenapa saham seseorang yg BAGUS malah
turun sedangkan saham yg lebih JELEK malah naik...

Para bandar jika mau mengakumulasi saham akan melakukan
taktik AKUMULASI sbb:

Misal saham yg:
- Mau diakumulasi A dan B
- A lebih BAGUS dari B
- B lebih LIKWID dari A. 
- B trxnya 10 miliar/hari, A = 1 mil/hari

Maka yg dilakukannya sbb:
- Naikan saham A (tidak likwid+ bagus) 10% sehari,
Naikkan saham B 3% hari itu
- Besoknya, GEBUG saham A -5%, akumulasi saham B,
turunkan lagi saham A ampe -10%, lanjutkan akumulasi 
saham B.
- Jika perlu step diatas diulang beberapa hari sampai
saham B (yg likwid+ kurang bagus) TERSERAP dari pasar.
- Terakhhir baru mereka akumulasi saham A yg tidak likwid
tapi lebih bagus.

Jadi para bandar akan mengakumulasi dari saham yg LIKWID
duluan meskipun Kurang Baik. Dan sesudahnya baru mengakumulasi
saham yg Bagus tapi kurang likwid.

Jadi jangan HERAN kalo embah bilang HORROR IS OVER tapi saham
anda masih TURUN...

POLA AKUMULASI INI SUDAH TERLIHAT !!!

Ini adalah BUKTI bahwa THE REAL HORROR IS OVER, HORROR
yg masih ada adalah ARTIFICIAL HORROR sebagai bagian
dari taktik BUY BACK...

BREAK ... BREAK... BREAK...

BUMI offer 7000 DIMAKAN HABIS...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: POLA AKUMULASI sudah terlihat

2008-03-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Kalo BC pasangan BUMI apa  mbah... hari ini TINS digebuk cukup dalem



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 4:11 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: POLA AKUMULASI sudah terlihat

 

Bandar akan mengusahakan AB SEJENIS misal saham BANK tapi
tidak selalu..

Bandar yg MENJODOKANnya jadi berperan sebagai jadi ma 
coblang... hehehe).

Saham yg dijodokan bisa dilihat dari saham B tutup (+) dan
saham A tutup (-).

Note:
- Pada saat MARKET FRAGILE begini, suatu BC yg sudah MURAH 
bisa dinaekan 10% tanpa AKUMULASI yg berarti.
- SEBALIKNYA, suatu saham bisa DIAKUMULASI SANGAT BANYAK
tanpa harganya NAIK karena pasangan JODOnya DIGEBUG DALAM
BANGET... 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Prasetyo, Hani 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 He3..pake ilmu tongkat penggebuk anjing ya mbah... bisa lebih
 transaparan mbah...saham AB saham sejenis atau bisa beda mbah? tks 
bt
 infonya...
 
 
 
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 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
 Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 3:46 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] POLA AKUMULASI sudah terlihat
 
 
 
 POLA AKUMULASI sudah terlihat
 
 Banyak yg bingung kenapa saham seseorang yg BAGUS malah
 turun sedangkan saham yg lebih JELEK malah naik...
 
 Para bandar jika mau mengakumulasi saham akan melakukan
 taktik AKUMULASI sbb:
 
 Misal saham yg:
 - Mau diakumulasi A dan B
 - A lebih BAGUS dari B
 - B lebih LIKWID dari A. 
 - B trxnya 10 miliar/hari, A = 1 mil/hari
 
 Maka yg dilakukannya sbb:
 - Naikan saham A (tidak likwid+ bagus) 10% sehari,
 Naikkan saham B 3% hari itu
 - Besoknya, GEBUG saham A -5%, akumulasi saham B,
 turunkan lagi saham A ampe -10%, lanjutkan akumulasi 
 saham B.
 - Jika perlu step diatas diulang beberapa hari sampai
 saham B (yg likwid+ kurang bagus) TERSERAP dari pasar.
 - Terakhhir baru mereka akumulasi saham A yg tidak likwid
 tapi lebih bagus.
 
 Jadi para bandar akan mengakumulasi dari saham yg LIKWID
 duluan meskipun Kurang Baik. Dan sesudahnya baru mengakumulasi
 saham yg Bagus tapi kurang likwid.
 
 Jadi jangan HERAN kalo embah bilang HORROR IS OVER tapi saham
 anda masih TURUN...
 
 POLA AKUMULASI INI SUDAH TERLIHAT !!!
 
 Ini adalah BUKTI bahwa THE REAL HORROR IS OVER, HORROR
 yg masih ada adalah ARTIFICIAL HORROR sebagai bagian
 dari taktik BUY BACK...
 
 BREAK ... BREAK... BREAK...
 
 BUMI offer 7000 DIMAKAN HABIS...
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] ALERT: FIRST CAPITAL INFLOW after 4 week of OUTFLOW !!!!

2008-03-25 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Ada yang tau brp asing buy n sell today? 



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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 3:13 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ALERT: FIRST CAPITAL INFLOW after 4 week of
OUTFLOW 

 

ALERT: FIRST CAPITAL INFLOW after 4 week of OUTFLOW !!!

IHSG +68, mudah mudahan bisa bertahan ampe closing...

JIKA BISA BERTAHAN:

- TODAY WILL BE THE FIRST DAY OF CAPITAL INFLOW TO BEI
AFTER 30 DAYS OFF CAPITAL OUFLOW CONSECUTIVELY...

- HARI INI ADALAH HARI PERTAMA, ALIRAN DANA MASUK
KE BEI SESUDAH 30 HARI OUTFLOW TANPA HENTI...

Sekarang jam 15:10, 50 menit lagi kita tunggu closing, 
mudah mudahan IHSG bisa bertahan sampai penutupan..

SIAPIN TEROMPET menyambut MR BULL

Kita tiup bareng jam 16:00... oke...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Net (Sell )Foreign Transaction

2008-03-25 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Bener mbah duit tu tak bertuan he3... 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 4:50 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Net (Sell )Foreign Transaction

 

Embah sih belon ngitung APA APA, tapi dengan melihat layar
begitu HIJAU dan MEYAKINKAN, tanpa ngitung-ngitung embah
udah yakin HARI INI CAPITAL INFLOW...

Pada saat REVERSAL, data asing biasanya DIBIKIN SALAH...

Dan embah engga peduli ama duit ASING atau duit LOKAL,
yg penting DUIT...

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 Mbah saya lihat kok ASING net sell ya? apa data saya salah atau ada 
TS besar?
 
 
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBCA vs BMRI

2008-03-27 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Tergantung mana yang koreksinya dalem.. kolek aja... pasti
rebound...

Ada yg tau prediksi lap keunya BCA. is it good enough???

 



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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 1:51 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BBCA vs BMRI

 

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wrote:

 Klo saya BMRI, punya manajemen papan atas. Hampir semua 
permasalahan masa
 lalu bisa di selesaikan perlahan-lahan. Laporan keuangannya juga 
lebih bagus
 BMRI
 
 2008/3/27, Christine Boyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  Rekan senior,
  mana yang di recommend BBCA atau BMRI saat ini?
  Terima kasih.
  Salam,
  Tien
 
  SIP : TBUMI
utk perbankan BBCA, BBRI, BDMN dan BMRI boleh dikatakan hampir
sama kuatnya. Semuanya pasti ada kelebihan dan kekurangan juga.



 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] INI KEBENARAN KENAPA BEI MEROSOT

2008-04-02 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

ada yang lagi ngerampok... be careful... mainnya sistematik buat meraup
dana murah...



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Truth
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:59 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] INI KEBENARAN KENAPA BEI MEROSOT

 

Hallo teman2 semua, apa kabar? Semoga Anda sehat2 saja!

 

Sebenarnya ada yang ingin saya katakan dari dulu keanehan indeks kita
ini : kalau BEI akan terpuruk sementara market regional sedang berusaha
bangkit. APA MASALAHNYA?

 

Saya dapat berita dari orang yang bisa dipercaya dan memang bisa
dipercaya selama ini. Mungkin Anda semua tidak percaya dengan saya, tapi
itu terserah Anda sekalian. Jangan percaya 100% yang saya bicarakan,
tapi lihat dari kenyataan yang selama ini terjadi!

 

Ini yang mau saya katakan kepada kalian bahwa ada OKNUM tertentu (tidak
akan saya katakan namanya karena memang seperti itu perjanjian dgn orang
tersebut) kl OKNUM ini akan mengambil keuntungan sebanyak-banyaknya
dengan kondisi market yang disangka teman2 sekalian akan bullish.
Keuntungan ini akan dipakai untuk mengakusisi sejumlah perusahaan besar
di Indonesia. ! Mungkin sebagian dari Anda sudah tahu perusahaan apa
yang sedang gencar-gencarnya mencari dana besar untuk mengakusisi
sejumlah perusahaan besar di Indonesia. 

 

Memang awalnya saya tidak percaya dengan yang dia katakan, tapi akhirnya
setelah melihat kenyataan akhirnya saya benar2 percaya. Saham2 yang
dimainkan padahal hanya sektor2 tertentu saja, tapi begitu market panik,
kejatuhan indeks akan menjadi lebih dalam, padahal 5 saham dari sektor
yang berbeda yang jadi pemicunya. Mungkin Anda juga bertanya2 koq bisa
seperti itu? Anda bisa tanyakan juga kepada manager mailing-list ini,
yaitu : Jsx Consultant.

 

Memang yang dianalisa dan dibicarakan selama ini di mailing-list ini ada
benarnya, tapi juga ada juga orang-orang yang sengaja merekomendasikan
saham2 yang akan dibawa ke jurang kehancuran walaupun dikatakan terus
DISCLAIMER ON!

 

Kalau membaca sebagian besar e-mail yang masuk di inbox, saya cuma
tersenyum kecil sambil mengatakan kl BODOH kalau mau beli cuma karena
ikut2an yang direkomendasikan orang tertentu. Saya juga punya pengalaman
seperti ini, broker merekomendasikan untuk membeli saham X, tapi saya
melihat di running trade saat itu kl broker yang merekomendasikan beli
tersebutlah yang sedang jualan dengan agresif sehingga saham X tersebut
terpuruk cukup dalam.

 

Apa untungnya bagi saya mengatakan hal seperti ini? Sebenarnya ada
untungnya bagi saya karena saya mau membantu teman2 yang ritel seperti
saya ini supaya tidak terjeremus oleh permainan OKNUM tertentu yang
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bahwa saya kurang bisa mengungkapkan apa yang saya pikirkan, tapi teman2
bisa melihat dalam history 1 bulan yang lalu, dan awal bulan ini bahwa
kejadiannya sama persis ketika indeks regional sedang naik cukup
signifikan, hanya BEI sendiri yang terjeremus ke dalam jurang.

 

Di mailing-list ini biang keladinya banyak termasuk kepalanya sendiri
dan bawahan2nya yang menyamar. Seperti ini : apa Jsx Consultant tahu
kalau selama ini AALI melakukan window dressing?

 

Maka dari itu saya sarankan kepada teman2 sekalian : BUY LOW, SELL HIGH
dan jangan BUY HIGH karena belum tentu ada SELL HIGHER. Bandar tidak
mungkin mengangkat harga saham dengan cara dipublikasikan terlebih
dahulu kepada orang2 yang bawahan kepercayaannya. Dan OKNUM yang saya
bicarakan di sini masuk-keluar lewat 10 broker yang berbeda.

 

Demikian yang telah saya ungkapkan, semoga berguna bagi teman2 sekalian!
Dengan kerendahan hati, saya mohon maaf kalau ada tulisan yang kurang
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update

2008-04-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Kang RI BNBR kelarnya kapan ya? Biar siap2 kalo bakrie group punya stock
terbang lagi...

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:26 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI Update

 

lah dileep mah berat kepentingannya ke BNBR lah.,

konyol lagi.. absurd nya lapkeu BUMI seakan2 emang mo mulusin 
jalannya BNBR. padahal BNBR di BUMI ga kentara porsi kepemilikannya 
selama ini.. tapi entar si Dileep jg kan pasca RI mo pindah ke BNBR, 
jg direksi si Ari Hudaya jg cabut ke BNBRnya udah diputus dr RUPS-LB. 
seakan dari RUPS-LB jg udah dipastikan BNBR akan DAPAT YG DY MAU DI 
BUMI DI HARGA YG DY MAU... Entar sesudah BNBR beres eksekusi BUMI 
jadi asetnya tinggal di sreng-sreng-sreng lg dah. dibikin bagus dah 
laporan keuangan en kontrak2nya en genjot produksi. ntar tinggal 
update upgrade2 lg dah. mantabs dah set-off nya.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Andi Wahyudi 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pusing ah Mbah..
 Dileep sama Riset juga sama2 ga bisa dipercaya...
 
 Hari ini ngomongnya A besok ngomongya kebalikan..
 
 Tau ah, gelap
 
 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote: Dibursa ini TIDAK ada yg bisa 
dipercaya begitu saja, nama Soros,
 nama ML, KZ dll BUKAN JAMINAN bahwa mereka TIDAK AKAN bohong...
 
 Cuman HARGA dan DUIT yg engga akan BOONG...
 
 Hasil research mereka embah anggap BENAR kalo cocok dengan
 gerakan HARGA dan DUIT. Diluar itu cuman SAMPAH !!!
 
 Cuman pengen tau harga Coal $44 aja barusan dapet sesudah
 harga turun lebih dari 30%. 
 
 SOMEBODY, SOMEHOW MUST BE A BLOODY LIER, MANIPULATOR BASTARD 
 in this case...
 
 Kalo pinjem bahasanya EL sih: KURANG AJAR LOEH... hehehe...
 
 Jadi kita IKUTIN aja harga BUMI sambil baca baca Reseach,
 mudah mudahan bukan sampah lagi...
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Hendra Santosa saham@ 
 wrote:
 
  Wah CLSA dan AK sudah menunjukkan ke-'ego' mereka. Mantap deh, 
 selamat
  Embah. Bu Elaine masih mau sabar menanti di 2000?
  
  
  
  _ 
  
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  Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI Update
  
  
  
  FYI
  
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RE: Lyonnais Capital JUAL BUMI 90% sahamnya di BEI for Rp 2T ----Re: [obrolan-bandar] BANDAR ITU KUAT dan LIHAI SEK

2008-04-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Maksudnya kang? Harga bakal terbang lagi pasca akusisi Soalnya gw
yakin si Om lagi jatuhin harga biar dapet harga murahhh... begitu
selesai akusisi... saham akan dibawa terbang tinggi???

 

Ada yang tau proses akusisinya kelarnya kapan???



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:31 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Lyonnais Capital JUAL BUMI  90% sahamnya di BEI for Rp 2T
Re: [obrolan-bandar] BANDAR ITU KUAT dan LIHAI SEK

 


yg kmaren di dump Bukan Barangn si CL-nya lagi dan bukan buangannya 
FM Reksadana pula., Ini barangnya pemaen gede yg Sebenernya tau nilai 
perusahaan pasca Akuisisi RI dan punya komitmen ama BNBR.. dy mah 
bentar jg balik. Its Not That Down-Down For Sure (El's 2-3 Thousand 
Something)

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gerakan harga engga sama ama RESEARCH/INFO artinya itu INFO
 SAMPAH !!! sorry... Rule no 10.
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Diwya Satwika Paramartha 
 diwya_satwika@ wrote:
 
  hehe nggak enak sama EL... mungkin dia lebih tau persisnya...
  
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , abdulrahim abdulrahim 
  abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote:
  
   Oh hehehe maip...
   Sekarang CL udah buang berapa? Masih banyak yang mau dibuang?
   
   2008/4/4 Diwya Satwika Paramartha diwya_satwika@:
   
Saya itu masih ganteng koq Pak Abdulrahim.. belom jadi cantik 
  (nggak
mau lah...) hehehe..
Kalo sama yg cantik ya mau...
   
--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , abdulrahim 
abdulrahim
abdul.rahman.rahim@ wrote:

 Mba Diwya, tarengkyu...

 Lain kali kalo dapat bocoran... jangan sungkan2 yahhh

 Biar kite2 para retailer cilik gak kena jebakan maut gitu 
  lho...

 *solidaritas retailer kroco*

 On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 7:26 AM, Diwya Satwika Paramartha
 diwya_satwika@ wrote:
  Wups... bocor deh...
  hehe...
 
  Tapi tenang aja BUMI-ers...
  Turunnya harga BUMI almost nothing to do with their
fundamental...
  Makanya kata EL abis ancur2an bakal nanjak kenceng
rollercoasternya...
 
  Udah ah nanti bisa diomelin sama yang punya gawe... Gw 
  tunggu aja
  BUMI di harga 4000 lah baru sikat lagi...
 
  Cheers  salam nyangkut..
  
 


 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] HORE....IHSG close +39

2008-04-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Good job EL   Good job hueheheheh




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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] HOREIHSG close +39

 

I always win.





Elaine

On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 4:32 PM, Andi Wahyudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:

Should I explain it, EL?
After being kicked from OB, EL wanted to come again and it was when BUMI
still 7700..

She wanted to say that She WIN because now BUMI is 5xxx..

Rite EL?

LoL

Cheers from EL READER,
Andi



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BUMI was 7700
maksud lo el???
mangkin gak ngerti aja...
mbok ya kalo ngomong yang jelas kayak kemaren gitu
idx mo di ancurin ke 2000!!! kan jelas hihihi
tapi sih kalo saya mah sukanya harga murah biar bisa
ikut bozz beli-2 hahaha.
+++mo cuan.com+++

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 *Like I said yesterday, closed di 2275 +2 lol... btw
 I came back here when
 BUMI was 7700. Now you tease me? 

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RE: Just Sharing Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI SUMMARY .....Re: Menit 2 terakhir beli BC non BUMI

2008-04-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Absolutely agree pak ... nanti jadi edan beneran... stick on fundamental
and tetep waspada!!!

Batman lagi gencet BEJ buat dapet dana murahbe careful ajalah...



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Halim Mintareja
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:50 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Just Sharing Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI SUMMARY .Re: Menit 2
terakhir beli BC non BUMI

 

Mn.

sekedar sharing aja.

Menurut saya market indo sedang tidak sehat. 

Yang tidak full time trader minggir dulu...
Yang investor minggir dulu...
Yang masih ijo minggir dulu.

Kalau gak percaya..check aja sekeliling anda..berapa banyak sih yang
account masih ijo ??

Buat saya sih... IHSG sedang dalam kondisi downtrending. Taktik paling
bagus adalah short selling mengikuti arah pasar.

Akan tetapi karena bandar gak bisa jualan..terpaksa BEI Melarang SHORT
SELLING.

Tujuannya bukan supaya pasar tidak volatile... TAPI SUPAYA BANDAR BISA
JUALAN PIKIRAN RETAIL MAU TIDAK MAU CUMAN LONG POSITION

BEI menfasilitasi yang punya duit..bukan retail.

Saya sih pilih liburan dulu.urusin sektor riil..mumpung return masih
lumayan ijo :D

GAK CRASH GAK MASUK. 

MUSTAHIL IHSG BREAK HIGH DENGAN VOLATILITAS MODEL GINI

Halim

2008/4/4 jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Nurut gw Mbah:

 Ada pasti yang bisa beli. Tapi nurut gw lg, lebih banyak yang cut
loss ...
 Cian deh kite, retailer kroco...

 Percaya deh bozz huebat. Cuma Mbah yang bisa ngimbangin deh kayaknya.
 Makanya retailer2 mesti baek deh sama Mbah.


BOZZ engga ada tandingannya karena didukung DANA yg kuat, NETWORK
yg luas dan Profesional yg high calibre..






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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI the index leader: TP1 = 5800, TP2 = 6300

2008-04-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Kira2 skenario switching ke saham BC sector apa sj MBAH? Apakah BC
komoditas  banks?

 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 5:37 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI the index leader: TP1 = 5800, TP2 =
6300

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Gmana dengan AALI, LSIP dan PTBA mbah? kok hari ini saya liat 
kenaikan
 nya tidak sebesar BUMI, maap newbie mbah. cman minta saran mbah, 
kapan
 waktu yang pantes untuk collect ketiga saham itu mbah...

Hari ini seharusnya BUY, atau jika nanti dikasih murah lagi, 
bisa BELI. Karena dengan INFLOWnya BUMI maka seharusnya
IHSG akan ikut naik...

 
 thx ya mbah atas info nya ^^
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 jsx-consultant@ wrote:
 
  BUMI the index leader: TP1 = 5800, TP2 = 6300
  
  
  Mudah mudahan BUMI bisa mencapai:
  
  - Target 1 = 5800
  - Target 2 = 6300
  
  Kalo ini tercapai artinya IHSG akan IJO terus...
  
  http://www.invest2000.net/pwlbumi.png
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mbah.. Ono opo iki?

2008-04-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Bravo plok3permainan yang cantik Let see on Monday... happy
weeken guys...

 



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Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 3:01 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Mbah.. Ono opo iki?

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , kucing_liar1 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 ati2 ama yang mau nebeng nge-short loh (WALOPUN BELUM PUNYA BARANG )
 ntar pas indeks di kasi merah banget mereka ikutan.
 

Cepet SHORT, tukang pikulan aer mau beli air dari 
PAM LYONAISE hhehee...

Kalo mau menang, SHORT TLKM bareng bossnya PAM...

 rgds-
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , PyRiEL PyRiEL 
 pyriel.pyriel@ wrote:
 
  kang ocoy juga semangat neeeh..
  seneng liat sepuh2 OB pada semangat..
  ayo, cucu OB juga pada semangat..
  
  
  On 4/4/08, kang_ocoy_maen_saham kang_ocoy_maen_saham@ wrote:
  
   We'll Fight Them Head-On.., Head On...
  
   i said: kiss me, you're beautiful - these are truly the last 
 days
   you grabbed my hand and we fell into it like a daydream or a 
fever
   - Dead Flag Blues, Godspeed You! Black Emperor.
  
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS2BrxcWWZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS2BrxcWWZA 
  
   
Kalo ngeliat komposisi yg turun: TLKM, PGAS, BBCA , ASII
   
Ini artinya di bau beli BUMI ...
   
Liat engga BUMI 5300 DIMAKAN...
   
INI SEMUA PERMAIANAN, kita memang ENGGA berdaya melawan
si BOZZ, kita cuman punya modal PERCAYA !!!
   
IHSG naik lagi... PERCAYA AJA... engga juga terserah anda
   
  
   
  
 


 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] ooohhhh...BEI ku......mbah OBers mohon di advise....

2008-04-08 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Kalo orientasinya long term invesment simpen aja bu jgn CL, kecuali yg
sudah untung RD bisa diredeem dulu, kalo market udah bottom baru masuk
lagi



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 1:09 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] ooo...BEI ku..mbah  OBers mohon di
advise

 


dear mbah  OBers yg baik, 

akyu newbie niyh d OB..banyak baca tulisan mbah di OB 
 baru td niyh bca tulisan nya pak Hmin ...juga tulisan2 nya EL  om
oentoeng..trus bengong.. 
wasegitu buruk kah..?? 

masalah nya sya punya reksadana mbah.. 
memang siyh, jumlah nya ga seberapa klo dibanding dg teman2 di OB, 
tapi itu uang tabungan saya untuk sekolah my baby girl nanti... 
juga untuk uang kala sya pensiun nanti... 

saya beli sewaktu index masiyh di 2.700, ada di 2.600 ada di 2500, 
dan kemarin waktu index di 2.400 sya beli lagi... 
nahh...klo begini bagaimana ya mbah..?? 

jadi saya keluar aja dulu for a while, 
wait sampai agak mereda, baru beli lagi..ambil di NAB yg cheaper?? 
or terus average down aja..?? 
what do you think..?? 

memang yg ada dikepala sya RD nya untuk LT, 
hanya kok klo market di indo panikan melulu gini ya susyah ya...?? 
kondisi sekarang lost 15% an deh... 
cuma klo baca postingan mba MU, akan bloom in may...wah..ada harapan
niyh.. :) 

dimohon dg sangat mbah  OBers advise nya... 
bingung banget niyh.. 
maklum..newbie  ga berani langsung masuk...brukkke saham.. 
masiyh banyak bgt yg harus dipelajari soal masuk market seperti ini.. 
grogi euy..  :) 



matur nuwun sanget in advance.. 
warm rgds, 

jeung firda 



 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Rupiah akan terdepresiasi karena inflasi?

2008-04-13 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Bisa kalo cadangan pemerintah cukup kuat dan nggak tergantung utang LN
kayak Indonesia contohnya CINA ... CINA peg dollar ke yuan 
fluktuasinya dicap...

Jadi asing ga bisa mainin seenak udelnya... atau kayak Malaysia sj...
MYR kaga boleh dipake trading Smua transaksi dalam negeri musti pake
MYR...

 

Mungkin Obers lain bisa nambahin

 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of abdulrahim
abdulrahim
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 11:45 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Rupiah akan terdepresiasi karena
inflasi?

 

Iya. Wah payah deh memang...

Ada yang bisa kasih masukan realistis utuk pemerintah, gaimana caranya
agar Rupiah tidak bisa dispekulasikan begitu?

2008/4/14 kang_ocoy_maen_saham [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:kang_ocoy_maen_saham%40yahoo.com :

 kalo yg nge-short ritel sih ga terlalu matter ya pak eka.. tp kalo
 institusi asing yg nge short Billion Dollar mana pake leverage lagi
 wah rada ruwet tuh... mo dibikin defisit diatas 3% kali kita., biar
 ga ngelanggar UU mau ga mau biarpun mo pemilu jg pasti BBM dinaekkin.

 mudah2an aja BI diberi kekuatan dan ketabahan (Aminn) buat ngejaga
 rupiah gak sampe jebol., dan pemerintah bisa mempertahankan laju
 pertumbuhan ekonomi mati2an.. yooshh., bekerja yg giat, hemat2 energi
 dan belajar yg rajin biar ekonomi kita ga dikerjain spekulan biadab
 melulu... keterlaluan juga lama2 tuh bule2 gila, orang ampe susah
 makan ini mo dibikin lebih merana lagi. mo anarchist kek mo free
 market kek mo liberal vcapitalist kek kalo konsekuensi dr
 praktek cari-return mereka adalah jutaan orang jadi susah dan
 kelaparan mah saya juga bingung do they really human or not...

 kita2 di OB yg agak berada sih masih bisalah nahan2nya kalo emang
 kejadian, masih bisa bertahan hidup, tp kalo rakyat kecil??. wah
 sedih en miris dah ngebayanginnya...

 semoga Indonesia tercinta bisa bertahan dan berkembang melewati semua
 ini.

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Mr W4W = Indonesian Buffet...Re: Screening Stocks Buat yg mau Long

2008-04-14 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Hidden growth...

 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Sent: Monday, April 14, 2008 1:16 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Mr W4W = Indonesian Buffet...Re: Screening
Stocks Buat yg mau Long

 

hoho.., fren fren smua tau gak kemaren waktu filing SEC terakhir 
Buffet abis akumulasi saham Kraft (makanan, kena dampak food price), 
saham USG (Produsen Material buat Housing), sama wells fargo 
(banking).. semuanya lagi kepukul parah even di sektor ini kan smua 
outlook earning semua jg dipangkas...

kenapa coba?? hehe selain dr segi Strong-balance-sheet dr ke 3 
emiten ini ada yg bisa kasih opini kira2 kenapa si WEB akumulasi 3 
saham ini?...

Investing is simple. But, it's not easy...

Having the guts to buy great companies when they are temporarily out 
of favor requires discipline, patience, and focus. So, lash yourself 
to the mast. Ignore the screams and lamentations of all the paranoid 
guys.
2-3 years from now, and perhaps much sooner, the commodity input 
inflation problem,the housing collapse problem, and the credit crisis 
problem will likely all be distant memories.

also for all the bad news, didnt the Market Discounted all Those 
stuff into prices???

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant jsx-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Embah rasa kalo AALI ditest pake KRITERIA Mr W4W bisa LOLOS
 screening deh...
 
 Ada yg udah coba ?. Daripada ngurusin BUMI, analis senior aja
 masih BEDA PENDAPAT..
 
 Supaya MUTIARA INVESTASI yg disumbangkan Mr W4W ini jangan sampe
 hilang, embah simpan di:
 
 http://www.obrolanbandar.com/jurusinvestor.htm
http://www.obrolanbandar.com/jurusinvestor.htm 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant jsx-
 consultant@ wrote:
 
  Mr W4W ini kalo prakteknya jago bisa jadi Indonesian Buffet..
  
  
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , mr_w4w mr_w4w@ wrote:
  
   
   Seperti rekan2 yg lain, saya juga sudah siapin 2 Ember cadangan 
 nih 
   buat nampung buangan hehehe ...
   
   Dalam kondisi seperti ini, saya pilih yang benar2 bagus.
   
   Buat perbandingan saja, Screening saya :
   
   Past performance criteria :
   
   1) .. Long Term Debt/Equity mendekati NOL ...
   Perusahaan kayak gini jelas tahan gempa dan lebih punya 
  flexibilitas 
   dalam financing ke-depannya.
   
   2.).. 3 tahun terahir rata2 EBITDA margin diatas 20%.
   
   3.) .. Dividen Yield lumayan .. kalo bisa diatas 3%.
   
   4.) .. EV/EBITDA sekecil mungkin, kalo bisa dibawah 8.
   
   5.) .. CAGR EPS dan sales 3 tahun terahir di atas 20%, sukur2 
25%.
   
   6.) .. kriteria subyektif : Management-nya bisa dipercaya!!!
   
   Future Criteria :
   
   1.) CAGR EPS dan sales 3 tahun KEDEPAN masih bagus, kalo bisa 
 di 
   atas 20%.
   
   2.) Asal PEG disekitar 1.2 saja lah.
   
   3.) Kalo sempat ngitung DCF, paling ngga ada margin of safety 
40%.
   
   Mari berburu saham bagus ...
  
 


 



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[obrolan-bandar] A Chat with Dr. Devi Shetty (Heart Specialist)

2008-04-14 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

This doctor is India's no.1 heart specialist... 

 

 
A chat with Dr.Devi Shetty, Narayana Hrudayalaya 
(Heart Specialist) Bangalore was arranged by WIPRO for its employees . 
The transcript of the chat is given below. Useful for everyone. 


Qn: What are the thumb rules for a layman to take care of his heart? 

Ans: 
1. Diet - Less of carbohydrate, more of protein, less oil 
2. Exercise - Half an hour's walk, at least five days a week; avoid
lifts and avoid sitting for a longtime 
3. Quit smoking 
4. Control weight 
5. Control blood pressure and sugar 

Qn: Is eating non-veg food (fish) good for the heart? 

Ans: No 

Qn: It's still a grave shock to hear that some apparently healthy person

gets a cardiac arrest. How do we understand it in perspective?   

Ans: This is called silent attack; that is why we recommend everyone
past the age of 30 to undergo routine health checkups. 

Qn: Are heart diseases hereditary?   

Ans: Yes   

Qn: What are the ways in which the heart is stressed? What practices do
you suggest to de-stress? 

Ans: Change your attitude towards life. Do not look for perfection in
everything in life. 

Qn: Is walking better than jogging or is more intensive exercise
required to keep a healthy heart? 

Ans: Walking is better than jogging since jogging leads to early fatigue
and injury to joints   

Qn: You have done so much for the poor and needy. What has inspired you
to do so? 

Ans: Mother Theresa , who was my patient 

Qn: Can people with low blood pressure suffer heart diseases? 

Ans: Extremely rare 

Qn: Does cholesterol accumulates right from an early age 
(I'm currently only 22) or do you have to worry about it only after you
are above 30 years of age? 

Ans: Cholesterol accumulates from childhood. 

Qn: How do irregular eating habits affect the heart ? 

Ans: You tend to eat junk food when the habits are irregular and your
body's enzyme release for digestion gets confused. 

Qn: How can I control cholesterol content without using medicines? 

Ans: Control diet, walk and eat walnut. 

Qn: Can yoga prevent heart ailments? 

Ans: Yoga helps. 

Qn: Which is the best and worst food for the heart?   

Ans: Fruits and vegetables are the best and the worst is oil. 

Qn: Which oil is better - groundnut, sunflower, olive? 

Ans: All oils are bad . 

Qn: What is the routine checkup one should go through? Is there any
specific test?   

Ans: Routine blood test to ensure sugar, cholesterol is ok. Check BP,
Treadmill test after an echo. 

Qn: What are the first aid steps to be taken on a heart attack? 

Ans: Help the person into a sleeping position , place an aspirin tablet
under the tongue with a sorbitrate tablet if available, and rush him to
a coronary care unit since the maximum casualty takes place within the
first hour. 

Qn: How do you differentiate between pain caused by a heart attack and
that caused due to gastric trouble? 

Ans: Extremely difficult without ECG. 

Qn: What is the main cause of a steep increase in heart problems amongst
youngsters? I see people of about 30-40 yrs of age having heart attacks
and serious heart problems. 

Ans: Increased awareness has increased incidents. Also, sedentary
lifestyles, smoking, junk food, lack of exercise in a country where
people are genetically three times more vulnerable for heart attacks
than Europeans and Americans. 

Qn: Is it possible for a person to have BP outside the normal range of
120/80 and yet be perfectly healthy? 

Ans: Yes. 

Qn: Marriages within close relatives can lead to heart problems for the
child. Is it true? 

Ans : Yes, co-sanguinity leads to congenital abnormalities and you may
not have a software engineer as a child 

Qn: Many of us have an irregular daily routine and many a times we have
to stay late nights in office. Does this affect our heart ? What
precautions would you recommend? 

Ans : When you are young, nature protects you against all these
irregularities. However, as you grow older, respect the biological
clock. 

Qn: Will taking anti-hypertensive drugs cause some other complications
(short / long term)? 

Ans : Yes, most drugs have some side effects. However, modern
anti-hypertensive drugs are extremely safe. 

Qn: Will consuming more coffee/tea lead to heart attacks? 

Ans : No. 

Qn: Are asthma patients more prone to heart disease? 

Ans : No. 

Qn: How would you define junk food? 

Ans : Fried food like Kentucky , McDonalds , samosas, and even masala
dosas. 

Qn: You mentioned that Indians are three times more vulnerable. What is
the reason for this, as Europeans and Americans also eat a lot of junk
food? 

Ans: Every race is vulnerable to some disease and unfortunately, Indians
are vulnerable for the most expensive disease. 

Qn: Does consuming bananas help reduce hypertension? 

Ans : No. 

Qn: Can a person help himself during a heart attack (Because we see a
lot of forwarded emails on this)? 

Ans : Yes. Lie down comfortably and put an aspirin tablet of any
description under the tongue and 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: EV/EBITDA from Bloomberg (Estimates)

2008-04-15 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Thanks Pak DE , Kang Ocoy... Pak AA ditunggu pencerahannya

 

Pak DE mo tips kiat jitu memilih sahamnya masih ditunggu lho...

 



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kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 5:54 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: EV/EBITDA from Bloomberg (Estimates)

 

Untuk multiple Ebitda saya serahkan pada yg lebih ahli dan terbiasa
make metode ini, yaitu pak Chick Correa(Armando Anthony). penerapan
Ebitda multiple pasti beliau lebih sip berhubung lebih familiar dan
sering menggunakan jg. kebetulan kalo relative valuation saya rada2
kurang ahli juga... masih belajar.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Dean Earwicker
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Setahu saya sih fungsinya sama dengan PER (Price to Earning Ratio),
yaitu
 perbandingan terhadap peer (emiten lain yang bisnisnya sama) dan
terhadap
 sektor, cuma pendekatannya saja beda. Makin rendah makin murah. Jangan
 dibandingkan dengan emiten yang bisnisnya (sektornya) beda.
 
 Kang Ocoy rasanya lebih bisa jelasin drpd saya.
 
 Regards,
 DE
 
 2008/4/15 Prasetyo, Hani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
 
  Patokan *EV / EBITDA yang sehat brp pak DE? *
  --
 


 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] AKRA report

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Thanks pak Herman sy udah mulai collect dikit 2 di bawah  1170... siap2
terbanglah bulan depan...



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of M Herman
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:46 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AKRA report

 

Mungkin bisa ambil sebelum result kuartal 1 keluar
akhir april 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sorry about 2000

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Jangan sedih kang... Pak Oen cm gantian shift ma Elbener kan pak Oen
/ El...

 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
kang_ocoy_maen_saham
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:54 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Sorry about 2000

 

Jangan Pak Jangan Pak Jangan Pak Jangan Pak Jangan Cabut Pak...

To Hell with 2000 dan embel-embel nya.., it doesnt matter pak... 

pak oentoeng cuman kasih info dan opini, which i believe is honest dan
ga bermaksud menjerumuskan ato mencari keuntungan (truthly saya selalu
anggep semua orang begitu ko, El, FS , Hmin, Embah, Pak Oen.. semua
memberi masukan sebagaimana menurut pengetahuan dan pandangannya)

bapak ga perlu pergi lah. toh saya sendiri juga aware ko bahwa 2000 Tu
bisa jadi Logis (saya udah pernah kasihtau pada asumsi apa 2000 bs
logis). 2000 skrg ato kapanpun possibility downside selalu ada
sebagaimana ada jg possibility upside.

Tidak ada YG PERLU DIBUKTIKAN dari Pak Oen...

U have My Respect Regardless Pak... Please dont leave..

(Ni Sampe skrg ajah saya masih sedih sama Oathnya Bro Anto yg ga balik
sevelum MEDCO 6000, makanya sayah selalu berharap MEDCO segera ke 6000
supaya Oath bro anto berakhir.. masa pak oen mo cabut juga, jangan lah
pak.. kita kan Braderr semua disinilah)

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Kalau Elaine (yg asli/palsu?) sudah ngomong begini biarlah saya juga 
 tahu diri...
 
 Saya sangat menyadari beberapa hari ini sudah banyak kaum pro BULL 
 yg bermunculan dengan berbagai analisa TA maupun FAnya...bahkan 
 kelihatan sudah menjadi MAYORITAS.
 Pertanyaannya apakah teori PARETO sedang tidak berjalan?
 
 Mungkin ini akan menjadi posting saya yg terakhir...
 Karena saya TETAP milih menjadi beruang dan kelihatannya SELALU 
 menjadi MOMOK bagi kaum pro bull.
 Sebenarnya kita tidak perlu berpolemik dengan ARAH den BEI mo kemana?
 Semua punya alasan masing2...
 
 Saya MUNGKIN akan bergabung lagi kalau MEMANG BENAR ketemu Den BEI 
 di level 2000 pada TAHUN INI.
 Kalau tidak ketemu level tsb, berarti kita nggak akan ketemu LAGI.
 Suatu hari nanti saya ingin membuktikan SESUATU kalau target tsb 
 sudah tercapai.
 
 Sebelum pamitan, saya juga mengucapkan terimakasih banyak atas 
 bantuan dan bimbingan Embah maupun para senior dan OB'ers sekalian 
 yg telah terjalin selama ini.
 
 Ok guys...NOW 14:38 den BEI pd 2345...see you at the next 
 BOTTOM...level 2000 (nggak salah nulis)
 
 Bond, My name is James Bond; yg ini salah; maksudnya...
 My WORDS is my BOND...
 
 
 Best Regards
 
 Oentoeng
 
 -The Last Man Standing-
 
 
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  I am sorry about 2000
  please follow the wind flow
 


 



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[obrolan-bandar] Information Please

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

Semoga cerita ini berguna...

 

 


Ketika saya masih lumayan kecil, keluarga saya memiliki telepon pertama
kali di lingkungan kami. Saya ingat benar kotak tua mengkilat yang
tertempel di dinding itu. Sebuah gagang yang mengkilat juga tergantung
di sebelah kanan dari kotak telepon itu. Waktu itu saya masih terlalu
kecil untuk menggapai telepon itu, tapi saya terbiasa mendengarkan
dengan takjub ketika ibu berbicara dengan kotak telepon itu. Dan
kemudian saya mengambil kesimpulan bahwa didalam alat yang ajaib itu
terdapat seorang yang bernama - Information Please - dan tidak ada
yang tidak dia tahu. Information please dapat memberitahukan apa saja.

Pengalaman pertama saya dengan jin di dalam botol ini adalah ketika
Ibu pergi mengunjungi temannya. Saat saya sedang bermain di gudang tak
sengaja tangan saya terluka kejatuhan sebuah palu, lukanya cukup parah.
Rasanya mau nangis tapi saat itu saya sadar tidak ada alasan untuk
menangis, karena tidak ada seorangpun di rumah yang bisa memberikan
simpati. Jadi saya hanya berlari-lari saja kesakitan sampai tiba-tiba
terbersit dalam pikiran saya... 

Oya, telepon itu, cepat-cepat saya ambil bangku, memanjatnya dan meraih
gagang telpon itu. Information please kata saya kepada gagang itu. Dan
terdengarlah suara perempuan yang kecil jernih di telinga saya. 

Informasi.

Tangan saya sakit ... sahut saya kepada telepon itu. Tangisan pun tak
terbendung ketika saya mengatakannya.

Apakah Ibumu tidak ada di rumah? Tanyanya 

Tidak ada seorangpun di rumah tangis saya.

Apakah tanganmu berdarah? tanya suara itu 

Tidak jawab saya. Tangan saya kejatuhan palu dan rasanya sakit
sekali.

Apakah kamu bisa membuka lemari es mu? tanya nya. Saya bilang bisa.
oke, sekarang ambil sepotong kecil es dan genggam dengan tanganmu yang
sakit, kata suara itu. 

Setelah peristiwa itu, saya bertanya kepada information please tentang
apapun masalah saya. Saya bertanya kepadanya tentang PR geografy dan dia
memberitahukan dimanakah negara ini berada. Dia membantu PR matematika
saya. Dia bahkan memberitahukan bagaimana cara merawat tupai yang baru
saja saya tangkap di halaman. 

Dan datang suatu ketika burung kenari kami mati. Saya menelpon
Information please dan bercerita padanya tentang peristiwa sedih itu.
Dia mendengar, dan kemudian mengucapkan hal yang biasa digunakan oleh
orang dewasa untuk menenangkan anak kecil. Tapi saya tidak puas dan
bertanya padanya, Mengapa burung yang bernyanyi sangat indah dan yang
memberikan kebahagiaan pada keluarga kami ini harus harus berakhir
terbujur kaku di dalam lobang ini?

Dia pasti merasa betapa dalamnya perasaan saya, sehingga dia pelan-pelan
berkata, Paul, ingatlah bahwa selalu ada dunia lain untuk bernyanyi. 

Dan entah bagaimana saya merasa lebih baik.

Beberapa hari kemudian saya menelepon lagi. Information please.

Informasi, jawab suara yang kini akrab di telinga saya.

Bagaimana caranya mengeja kata gunung? tanya saya.

Semua kejadian ini terjadi di sebuah kota kecil di Canada. Ketika saya
berumur 9 tahun, keluarga kami pindah ke Selatan. Saya sangat merindukan
teman saya.

Information please tetap berada di dalam kotak kayu tua di rumah itu,
dan entah kenapa saya tidak pernah berpikir untuk mencoba telepon baru
kami yang ada di atas meja.

Seiring saya beranjak remaja, ingatan percakapan masa kecil saya itu
tidak pernah hilang dari ingatan saya. Sering, dalam waktu-waktu
keraguan dan kebimbangan, saya mengingat perasaan aman yang saya miliki
waktu itu. Sekarang saya baru takjub akan betapa sabar, pengertian, dan
baiknya operator itu menghabiskan waktunya dengan seorang anak kecil.

Beberapa tahun kemudian, dalam perjalanan saya ke kampus jauh ke barat,
saya menghabiskan waktu 15 menit lebih berbicara dengan kakak perempuan
saya yang kini tinggal di rumah kami yang dulu. Dan tanpa berpikir apa
yang saya lakukan, saya menekan tombol operator di kota kelahiranku itu
dan berkata Information please. Ajaibnya, saya mendengar sebuah suara
perempuan yang kecil, jernih, suara yang begitu saya kenal, Informasi.

Dan tanpa saya sadari, tiba-tiba saya berkata, Bagaimana caranya
mengeja kata gunung?

Hening beberapa saat. Dan kemudian terdengarlah suara lembut yang
menjawab, Saya pikir seharusnya tanganmu sudah sembuh sekarang.

Saya tertawa. haha ternyata masih tetap anda ya, kata saya. Anda
tidak tahu betapa berartinya anda buat saya di waktu-waktu itu.

Saya juga bertanya-tanya, katanya, Tahukah kamu betapa berartinya
semua telepon-teleponmu itu kepadaku. Saya tidak mempunyai anak, jadi
saya sangat menunggu saat-saat kamu menelpon saya.

Saya berkata kepadanya betapa seringnya saya memikirkan dia dalam
tahun-tahun belakangan ini dan bertanya jika saya dapat mengunjungi dia
saat saya mengunjungi kakak saya.

Boleh ... boleh ..., katanya. bilang saja anda mencari Sally.

Tiga bulan kemudian saya kembali ke kampung halaman saya. terdengar
sebuah suara lain yang tidak saya kenal berkata Informasi.

Dan saya bertanya dimanakah Sally.

Apakah anda temannya? 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] AKRA report

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Kalo dibawah 1000 ya pasang ember lagi pak He3



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:46 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] AKRA report

 

ati-ati kalau tsunami datang lagi... AKRA bisa di bawah 1000 

- Original Message 
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To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:28:02 PM
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] AKRA report

Thanks pak Herman sy udah mulai collect dikit 2 di bawah  1170... siap2
terbanglah bulan depan...



From: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com [mailto: obrolan-bandar@
yahoogroups. com ] On Behalf Of M Herman
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 1:46 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] AKRA report

 

Mungkin bisa ambil sebelum result kuartal 1 keluar
akhir april 

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[obrolan-bandar] Prospek SMGR

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

SMGR anteng di range 4200 - 4300-an... rekan2 ada yang punya info ttg
SMGR tolong dishare... Tx be4



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] MIRA dan BISI

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Bisa jadi hidden growth kalo PER skrg tinggi... 

 



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Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 5:29 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MIRA dan BISI

 

Dari januari 2008 sampai sekarang kok MIRA ama BISI seperti gak
terpengaruh jeleknya perekonomian global. Nanjak teru.

Minta tolong dong dijelasin apa makna fenomena ini?

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PENDEKAR SAMURAI VS PENDEKAR SHAOLIN

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

A man's heart plans his way, but the LORD directs his steps 

 



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PENDEKAR SAMURAI VS PENDEKAR SHAOLIN

 


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 Tapi, rencana-Ku selalu indah bagimu
 
 
 2008/4/18 Jack Cowok [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  I remember and like this word :
  jalanKU bukanlah jalanmu
 
 
  RencanaKu bukan rencanamu
 
 
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Prospek SMGR

2008-04-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Tks pak Agree that SMGR memang but long term investment... tipe
saham pilihan Kang Warren



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Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:39 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Prospek SMGR

 

SMGR ya Pak,

 

Kebeltulan saya baca FSnya bbrp minggu lalu, ini saya share:

 

Secara Fundamental perusahaan ini sangat solid, no doubt, nothing to
worry.  S/d dg 31/12/07 cash  setara cash aja sudah 1/4 dr Total
assetnya.  Kemampuan membayar hutang, baik itu hutang jangka panjang
ataupun jangka pendek sesuai terms and conditionsnya, sangat kuat.  Cash
inflownya sendiri sangat solid.  Malah  dividen yg dibagikan hampir sama
dg jumlah hutang yg dibayar.

 

Terlebih lagi significant increase di revenue tidak dibarengi dg
costnya, padahal investment di fixed asset sangat kecil.  Ada
kemungkinan perusahaan ini operating 3 shift ataupun mampu menekan harga
bahan baku krn ketergantungan thd barang baku dr 1-2 suppilers  10% dr
total bahan baku required.  

 

Kalau dilihat dr indikator Financial Ratio, SMGR ini terlalu liquid,
sebetulnya malah kurang baik, krn bisa dinilai tidak mampu memanfaatkan
kelebihan yg dimilikinya.  Mungkin krn itu maka tgl 10/12/2007 diadakan
RUPSLB untuk membangun 2 pabrik baru di Jawa dan Sulawesi dg kapasitas
terpasang 2x2.5 jt ton, dan power plant 410 MW, dg investasi masing2 US$
670jt dan US$ 573jt, dengan jaminan 50% total assets dari SMGR ini.

 

Realisasi dr investasi hsl RUPSLB itu pasti butuh wkt lama.  Biasalah
BUMN, teralu banyak protokolernya  Kalau anda daily trader memang SMGR
SANGAT TIDAK COCOK.  Swing-swung hampir tidak ada.  malah saya curiga
SMGR ini salah satu saham yg digebug utk naikkin saham lain.  Saya gak
tau bobotnya brapa di index BEI, musti tanya Pak Boyz yg biasanya
merhatiin.

 

Jadi kalau punya SMGR ya disimpan aja utk long.  Tinggal tunggu
realisasi proyek baru diatas.  Kalau sdh realisasi, ada kemungkinan
ngebut.  Saya tidak melihat ada sesuatu yg negatif dr SMGR ini.  Saya
sendiri punya cukup banyak, bahkan sebelum stock split th lalu.  Saya
simpen aja krn memang sahamnya ANTENG.

 

Mudah2an bermanfaat.

 

AA

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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Prospek SMGR

SMGR anteng di range 4200 - 4300-an... rekan2 ada yang punya info ttg
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[obrolan-bandar] IPO INDIKA ENERGY

2008-04-23 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

OB-ers ada yang tau ttg INDIKA ENERGY... tolong dong share infonya

prospeknya kyknya oks bangets... cuma rada susah dapet barang pas IPO...
Tengs loh



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[obrolan-bandar] Request for help from OB-ers // Automotive, pharmaceutical dan seed (pupuk dalam kemasan)

2008-04-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Teman2 OB-ers, 

 

Saya membutuhkan MARKET ANALISIS data tentang Automotive, pharmaceutical
dan seed industry (pupuk dalam kemasan) untuk bahan riset saya.

Yang saya butuhkan terutama tentang Market Segmentation, Size, Share,
Trend dan Market Mapping sbb :

 

Market Segmentation : 

 

 

 

a. Market Segment

 

 

 

 

b. Market Sub-segment

 

 

 

c. End-user

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Size :

 

 

 

 

 

a. By Quantity 

 

 

 

 

b. By Value

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Share :

 

 

 

 

 

by Quantity

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Market Situation

 

 

 

 

a. Issue

 

 

 

 

 

b. Current solution

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Competitive Analysis

 

 

 

 

a. PV Map (Customer Price  Value)

 

 

b. SWOT Analysis

 

 

 

 

etc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Market Mapping

 

 

 

 

a. Feature

 

 

 

 

 

b. Market Trend

 

 

 

 

c. Prioritization

 

 

 

 

d. Business Model (through distributor, converter, end-user, etc)

 

Trima kasih banyak buat bantuannya...Japri juga boleh. Thanks.






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RE: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR: The Best cement stock at it's LOWEST low in almost a year

2008-04-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 
jadi penurunan ini artinya apa Mbah?



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 12:57 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] SMGR: The Best cement stock at it's LOWEST low
in almost a year



SMGR: The Best cement stock at it's LOWEST low in almost a year

Industri sement memerlukan banyak energi tapi pada saat
ini SMGR is at IT'S LOWEST LOW in almost a year

Performance keuangan SMGR tidak pernah menurun disaat 
minyak naik dan inflasi

Financial data:
- http://www.investdata.net/QQSMGR.TXT
http://www.investdata.net/QQSMGR.TXT 

Sector comparison:
- http://www.investdata.net/QZFINCEM.TXT
http://www.investdata.net/QZFINCEM.TXT 

Chart:
- http://www.invest2000.net/pwlsmgr.png
http://www.invest2000.net/pwlsmgr.png 



 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Thee days DISCOUNT windows 2008 (2230) ....Re: BEI NUNGGU APA LAGI SIH ????

2008-04-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

capital inflow asing naik gak Mbah minggu lalu? bisa jadi mereka
lagi pasang ember2 gede karena inflasi ga sejelek perkiraan
orang...(disc on)
RIDING THE BEAR... SURFING THE WAVE don't worry be happy... ada saat
turun ada saat... yang pasti grafiknya naikSO ENJOY AJALAH!



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:10 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Thee days DISCOUNT windows 2008 (2230) Re:
BEI NUNGGU APA LAGI SIH 



Secara logika sih, berapa angka inflasi tsb pasti 
sudah TERCIUM saat ini oleh pemain GEDE karena mereka punya
KONEKSI...

Pasti mereka SUDAH mengantisipasi angka inflasi ini dalam beberapa
hari terakhir, jadi saat pengumuman inflasi bisa saja
market menunjukan ANOMALI terhadap data inflasi... 

Tapi kalo ragu, masuk ada sedikit dulu... santai aja..

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Mbah,
 
 
 
 Kalo memang ini good opportunity, apakah ada indikasi bahwa inflasi 
kita
 April 08 lebih rendah dari maret? Konon market menunggu data ini, 
shg
 ragu2 masuk? 
 
 Trims sebelumnya.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
 Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 3:16 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Thee days DISCOUNT windows 2008 
(2230) Re:
 BEI NUNGGU APA LAGI SIH 
 
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
 mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Thomas Frederick 
 thomaszone_2000@ wrote:
 
  Embah ikutan yang mana dong?? hehehehe
  
  ribet nungguin gini mbah.. bikin ngantuk
  
  Thank You! ThomaS FredericK
  
  
 
 Sama sekali ENGGA RIBET...
 
 Buat investor, ini adalah 3 HARI dalam thn 2008 buat ngumpulin
 saham BAGUS yg MURAH...
 
 Embah punya feeling: 
 - THIS GOOD OPPORTUNITY to make money, will NOT happen again 
 sampe akhir thn 2008.
 
 Perhatiin aja, pak TBUMI ampe engga berhenti henti ngirim
 posting bearish, jangan jangan dia lagi NGISI embernya yg
 kosong dari Barang Trader yg disuruh CUT LOSS minggu INI,
 BETUL ENGGA tebakan embah,pak BUMI ?...hehehe...




 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR TEMBUS 9%

2008-04-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Kalo pak TBUMI ahli strategi perang... maka TRADER ahli strategi gerilya
dengan komando Mbah... 
ditinggu komandonya...



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:22 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR TEMBUS
9%



ha..ha..ha bisa aja pak iwan nih...ngga lah kali ini saya 
berseberangan dengan TBumi.
Sebuah lagu untuk Pak TBumi: madu di tangan kananmu...racun di 
tangan kirimu

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Wah, kalo bener percuma, berarti satu merek ama roketnya Pak Jos 
dunk
 ... he he he
 
 Just kidding ...
 
 
 
 
 
 From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
 [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of jos_martino
 Sent: Monday, 28 April 2008 1:48 PM
 To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR 
TEMBUS
 9%
 
 
 
 Untuk hari ini rudal nya disimpen dulu deh...percumah..he..he..he
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , t_bumi t_bumi@ 
wrote:
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Vincent Chase 
  chase.vincent@ wrote:
  
   kl gak turun gimana dong?
   
   SIP : TBUMI
  
  Rudal siap ditembak. Kami ahli pasang strategi perang.
 




 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] JOKE paling engga ENGGA lucu buat DIRUT BEI

2008-04-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 
biasa Mbah ADA UDANG DIBALIK BAKWAN BD kan suka gitu... SO ENJOY
SAJALAH!  
yummy... he3...



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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:44 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] JOKE paling engga ENGGA lucu buat DIRUT BEI



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 Mbah mo nanya, di luar fundamental. Kalo liat chart/TA aja. Chart 
SMGR yg bentuk bukit sama SMCB yg datar seminggu ini, mana yg lebih 
#39;cakep#39; dan menarik dari sisi TA ya?
 

TA INTP engga bisa dipercaya, INTP hari jumat dinaekin +10%
pada SAAT PENUTUPAN !!!
Saat ini diturunin lagi -6%

BD saat ini lagi berusahan BEGO-BEGOIN orang supaya BINGUNG !!!

Kita dibom INFO jelek terus SUPAYA ORANG LUPA BAHWA SAAT 
INI BANYAK SAHAM AT IT'S LOWEST PRICE karena pikiran kita
terisi KETAKUTAN, INFLASI, BBM dan muka pak TBUMI... hehehe...

Negara yg terkena LANGSUNG KRISIS yaitu US aja udah REBOUND
TINGGI. Masa Indonesia yg tidak terkena KRISIS malah ada
pada INDEX TERENDAH ?.

INI JOKE PALING ENGGA LUCU buat Dirut BEI...



 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR TEMBUS 9%

2008-04-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 
engga semua cabe merah itu peda dan semua cabe rawit engga pedas...
yang jelas kalo makan cabe satu piring baru dijamin bolak-balik
kakus he3...
 
cabe  udang mania... pi dah!!!
 



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR TEMBUS
9%



whatever lah. yg ditunggu merahnya, bukan nato.
your reputation at stake now (if there is any).

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 wrote:
 
  mana merahnnnya ?? koq cuma seupil hehehe. jgn omdo donk. di sini
juga
  udah nunggu pasukan elit cabe rawit. pake senjata ember besar
hehehe.
  
  
  
 sip : tbumi
 Cabe rawit yg merah berarti cabe yg sudah tua. Dgn makan sedikit
 saja cabe merah tentu sdh terasa pedasnya. Sedangkan cabe rawit yg
 masih hijau berarti masih muda dan tak pedas.




 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Kagum dan Terima Kasih

2008-04-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 
betul Kang... bersatu kita teguh bercerai kawin lagi.. ops kita
runtuh... keep posting useful info for OB-ers...
 
salam damai




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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kagum dan Terima Kasih



saya secara tulus kagum dg Mbah dan rekan2 yg lain yg telah mensupply 
data2 fundamental dan analisis, terlebih2 Mbah yg tanpa lelah 
mengupdate bahan2.
kagum dan terima kasih kpd Mbah dan rekan2 lainnya, semoga anda semua 
mendapat berkat yg melimpah dariNya

salam



 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR TEMBUS 9%

2008-04-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

lha pak T BUMI bukannya sudah dapet bocoran dari BPS???  



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Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:57 PM
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Subject: Bls: [obrolan-bandar] Utk apak TBUMI...Re: INFLASI TANAH AIR
TEMBUS 9%



--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , t_bumi t_bumi@ wrote:
  Jadi member OB bisa siapin ember..
 
 Anda sendiri mau belanja minggu INI atau minggu DEPAN sesudah
 naek ? and dilevel berapa ?.

 SIP : TBUMI

Lebih baik tunggu angka inflasi dari BPS dulu. Minggu ini masih
ada berita buruk dari negara cowboy.



 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya Kenapa Program Buy Back KLBF Diperpanjang?

2008-04-29 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Alasan yang sebenernya sih manajemen lagi ga ada cash out pak...

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2008 6:35 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Tanya Kenapa Program Buy Back KLBF
Diperpanjang?

 

Ada yang bisa analisa dari sisi perbandaran, mengapa program buy-back
KLBF diperpanjang?

As for me, it is quite funny (alasannya itu lho, karena market tidak
kondusif..., bukannya malah bagus untuk shareholder, beli own stock di
harga murah?).


Regards,
Bandar Bola

 

 

 

Senin, 28/04/2008 09:55 WIB 

Kalbe Farma Perpanjang Buy Back Saham 

Irna Gustia - detikFinance

 

 Jakarta - Perusahaan farmasi terbesar di Indonesia, PT Kalbe Farma Tbk
(KLBF) akan memperpanjang masa pelaksanaan pembelian saham kembali (buy
back shares) yang semula ditargetkan selesai 18 bulan.

 

Semula buy back saham Kalbe Farma ditargetkan selesai 7 Agustus 2008.
Buy back saham itu maksimal 10 persen atau 1.015.601.442 saham.

 

Sehubungan dengan kondisi pasar saat ini, perseroan bermaksud meminta
perpanjangan waktu dari semula berakhir 7 Agustus 2008 menjadi 7 Agustus
2009, jelas direksi perseroan dalam pengumuman, Senin (28/4/2008).

 

Perseroan rencananya akan meminta persetujuan pemegang saham pada 26 Mei
2008. Sebelumnya untuk buy back ini perseroan menunjuk PT Danareksa
Sekuritas sebagai pelaksananya.Kalbe Farma menjadi perusahaan farmasi
terbesar setelah pada 16 Desember 2005 efektif merger dengan PT Dankos
Laboratories Tbk dan PT Enseval. Keduanya menggabungkan diri ke dalam
Kalbe yang menjadi perusahaan hasil penggabungan (surviving company).

 

Setelah merger Kalbe menargetkan menjadi perusahaan global dengan
merambah ke mancanegara seperti Malaysia, Myanmar, Kamboja, Vietnam,
India, Sri Lanka, Afrika Selatan hingga Nigeria.

 

Perusahaan yang didirikan pada 1966 oleh dua bersaudara Boen Setiawan
dan Boen Haryanto, saat ini memiliki kapitalisasi pasar Rp 13,4 triliun.
Pemegang saham mayoritasnya dikuasai oleh enam perusahaan dengan total
sebesar 52,83 persen. ( ir / qom )

 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] TIMAH 12-MONTH PRICE TARGET RAISED 21% TO 37,000 RUPIAH AT DBS

2008-04-29 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Attachementnya ketinggalan ya pak..



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] TIMAH 12-MONTH PRICE TARGET RAISED 21% TO
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] DAFTAR MAKANAN DI BEI

2008-04-29 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Ayam kampus pak... he3



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of AB
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 8:59 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] DAFTAR MAKANAN DI BEI

 

ayamnya ayam apaan pak Tbumi? ayam kampung, ayam
negeri, ayam kate, ato ayam kena flu burung?
he3x

AB

--- Bumi T [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:t_bumi%40yahoo.co.id  wrote:

 Bursa buka 5 hari dan sajian daftar makanan di BEI :
 
 - Hari Senin : sayap ayam 28/April/2008
 
 - Hari Selasa : dada ayam 29/April/2008
 
 - Hari H : tulang ayam
 
 - Hari H+1 : kepala ayam
 
 - Hari H+2 : kaki ayam 
 
 Bila sdh masuk hari H, maka BEI tak bisa
 memberikan daging lagi. 
 
 Maaf : paha ayam sdh jadi jatah utk TBUMI
 
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] INDEX MOVER and it's IMPLICATION+ Kerjain TBUMI .....- BUMI RELOADED

2008-04-30 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Ole... ole... ole...El  Ride the BEAR

I have reloaded my BUMI today after sold it out yesterday. Yi p
ka yeee



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elaine
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:54 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] INDEX MOVER and it's IMPLICATION+ Kerjain
TBUMI .Re: bei

 

We've been accumulating on every weakness...

 

Elaine

 

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Ok Mbah. Sesi 2 menunggu komando nih, biar gak malu2 amat sama pak
 TBUM yang lagi siul2, senyum2 penuh kemenangan dapet ceker ayam 
hahaha


BUMI saat ini menggantikan TLKM sebagai INDEX MOVER, yang
dalam bahasa kasarnya berarti:
- BUAT NGATUR INDEX hari ini mau dibikin bagus atau jelek

BUMI sebagai INDEX MOVER berarti:
- BD harus menguasai saham BUMI yg likwid dipasar, at least 75%,
jadi saat ini BUMI adalah PORTFOLIO nya BOZZ.
- BUMI sebagai INDEX MOVER menyaratkan portfolio BOZZ di BUMI
tidak boleh BERKURANG, karena kalo barang berkurang maka akan
ada terlalu banyak barang dipasar sehingga BD tidak bisa
dengan MUDAH mengatur gerakan harga BUMI dipasar.
- Kalo BD tidak bisa mengatur gerakan harga BUMI otomatis
BOZZ kehilangan KENDALI atas gerakan IHSG harian...

Nah ITU adalah implikasi BUMI sebagai INDEX MOVER...

Sekarang PRAKTEKnya:
- BUMI dijatohin barusan ke 6500, pak Tbumi ketawa ketawa
karena merasa menang melawan El (IHSG -23) . 
Padahal BOZZ lagi MEMPERDAYA mereka...

- BOZZ ayo bikin tutup IJO masih ada 75 menit lagi, kita
kerjain pak Tbumi... hehehe...

 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] INDEX MOVER and it's IMPLICATION+ Kerjain TBUMI .....Re: bei

2008-04-30 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 Kalo BOZZ demen duit ya control BUMI HIGH RISK HIGH RETURN.. jess..
jess..jess... tut7X

 



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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 3:41 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] INDEX MOVER and it's IMPLICATION+ Kerjain
TBUMI .Re: bei

 

Setoedjoe mBah,
Untuk Controlling gerakan Harian BEI BOZZ, musti controlling BUMI.
Karena Bobot BUMI yang signifikan thd indeks
Makanya beberapa waktu lalu ane agak getol ngikutin perkembangan BUMI,
untuk ngira-2 arah yang di tuju si BOZZ .

http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/75930
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/75930 
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/75924
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/obrolan-bandar/message/75924 

rada absurd kalau ada yg ngomong si BOZZ gak peduli market mo Merah atau
mo Ijo.
gimana mau mengarahkan indeks (cornering) kalau gak bisa bikin market
ijo/merah alias membuat sentimen market.
lah kalau kagak bisa mengarahkan market ijo, gimana BOZZ mau jualan?

salam,

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 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , XXX bubbletrader@ wrote:
 
  Menurut saya scenarionya belum tentu begitu Mbah. Bozz jg tahu
 kalau mata
  semua retailer tertuju pada BUMI karena Kapitalisasinya besar, dan
 sensitif
  sebagai penggerak IHSG. Bagi BOZZ, IHSG mau merah atau hijau
 sekarang enggak
  penting. Yang penting dia harus bisa akumulasi saham-2 favorit
 lainnya yg
  meski diborong, nggk akan terlalu banyak menggerakkan IHSG. Dengan
 begitu,
  si BOZZ bisa selalu dapat harga murah.


 SAMA PERSIS DENGAN PEMIKIRAN EMBAH. itulah gunanya BD punya
 INDEX MOVER yg harus dibayar mahal ...

 Ini sama dengan mendapatkan CONTROLLING MAJORITY dalam
 menguasai sesuatu perusahaan. CONTROLING item ini harus
 dibayar mahal karena bisa mengendalikan IHSG untuk
 macam macam tujuan SEPERTI yang anda tulis...


 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: LAST CALL for TBUMI: Flight 888 to Fried Chicken Country

2008-04-30 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

HO3X who make last laugh then Pak TBum? 

Great show for today... let's see on Friday...



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Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:03 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: LAST CALL for TBUMI: Flight 888 to Fried
Chicken Country

 

IHSG IJO EL menang SIKIT 

Did Mr Tbumi managed to go aboard ? Where are you Mr TBumi ?.
Are you with us ?.

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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 LAST CALL for TBUMI: Flight 888 to Fried Chicken Country
 
 
 In 5 minute Flight 888 to Fried Chicken Country will depart.
 
 This is the Last call to mr TBUMI otherwise you will miss
 our flight and negri AYAM GORENG...


 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI turun tp IDX naik?

2008-05-01 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Kayaknya BOZZ jual saham2 BC yang udah dicollect kmrn diharga diskon
BUMI ditahan sementara yang lain naik 

Gimana menurut Mbah?

 



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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] BUMI turun tp IDX naik?

 

pake asii kali yaa :) 
ngebut banget

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Apakah Bozz udah pake yang lain despite of BUMI buat naikin IDX?

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: DJ future -52 jam 12:00 wib

2008-05-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Sebelum2nya kalo BI rate naik..  bagaimana pengaruhnya dengan saham2
BEI... khususnya banking  infrastruktur... terlebeih skrg ini inflasi
tinggi dan kemungkinan besar BBM akan naik... Seniors OB-er tolong kasih
masukan...

 



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Sent: Monday, May 05, 2008 12:15 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: DJ future -52 jam 12:00 wib

 

Kalo dari segi LOKAL BEI, embah sih YAKIN

Cuman DJI sudah dilevel 13058, apakah secara FUNDAMENTAL ini
WAJAR ?. Bagaimana menurut Marina ?

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 Jadi artinya besok IHSG akan merah lagi seperti DJI? Saya kira 
lokal lebih berpengaruh, besok tergantung dari hasil BI Rate? 
Bagaimana embah, cucu-cucu sudah siap dengan ember semua, tinggal 
tunggu komando dari embah lagi
 
 Regards,
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Positive to mid term ==Market reacts negatively on BI rate hike

2008-05-06 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Gimana caranya Mbah, apa bozz punya akses ke jaringan internet juga buat
hack koneksi internet ...

Kayak filem Mission Possible eh Impossible aja... he3... (lagi
ngebayangin... m)



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Positive to mid term ==Market reacts
negatively on BI rate hike

 

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 Ah! Jadi maksudnya internet dikadalin itu spy trader tidak bisa 
transaksi utk jualan ketika BI rate jadi naik. Posisi bozz masih 
dijaga. Betul gitu Mbah? 
 Padahal dari tadi pagi internet (saya) rusak, mungkin bozz sdh 
antisipasi 
 

BOZZ punya banyak posisi TRADING di perbankan, jadi
kenaikan BI rate SANGAT membahayakan posisi nya, jadi
opsi internet dikadalin merupakan pilihan yg masuk akal...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: DEWA TP 500

2008-05-08 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Abis ejakulasi leme dulu pak... sopirnya perlu minum kuku bima
dulu... biar ngejosss lagi...



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: DEWA TP 500

 

kenapa saat ini dewa lemas?

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Dow fut -90

2008-05-09 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

pak Rei... ngarepnya He3

 



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Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 5:02 PM
To: Milis OB
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Dow fut -90

 

Eropa juga kebakaran banget...tapi BEI hebat! Bozz, anda hebat!!! 

Senin kita dapat barang murah deh...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HARI INI hari nya CPO

2008-05-12 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Ini namanya jurus BELALANG SEMBAH siBOZZ kan kakinya banyak tuh
Mbah... 4 kaki belakang buat pasang kuda2...

2 kaki depan buat trading online n baca OBers... he3



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Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 4:26 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HARI INI hari nya CPO

 

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 Mbah, kenapa Perbankan?
 bukannya inflasi tinggi, resesi global masih mengancam?
 Dan kalau BBM naik bukannya bakal banyak yang ga bisa bayar cicilan
 kendaraan bermotornya (terutama roda dua) karena penghasilannya juga
 ga mencukupi.
 

Inisih engga pake teori

Tapi kalo dipaksain, ini teorinya:

- Embah melihat BOZZ dan EL berhasil menahan kejatuhan 
IHSG selama lima hari disaat REGIONAL jekek dan Sentimen
Lokal yg NEGATIF. Ini menunjukan ada pihak yang PUNYA 
HAJATAN/KEPENTINGAN.
- HAJATANnya apa engga jelas, tapi mereka punya kepentingan
menahan kejatuhan IHSG.
- Kalo IHSG mau dibikin terbang, maka ketiga sektor ini
harus digunakan yaitu: MINING, AGRI dan FINANCE.
- MINING sudah terbang pake BUMI, AGRI dan FINANCE beberapa
hari ini diturunin dan membentuk POSISI KUDA-KUDA.
Kaki Kirinya MINING ada didepan dan AGRI+FINANCE adalah
kaki kanan ADA dibelakang.
- Posisi KUDA-KUDA ini sangat efektif untuk MENYERANG, 
tinggal MENENDANGKAN kaki kanan kedepan maka musuh akan
terkapar... 

 Salam
 
 Budi
 
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  Hari ini harga CPO naek tinggi tapi index AGRI belon berhasil
  ngangkat IHSG...
  
  EL,
  Embah bantu lagi di PERBANKAN
 


 



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[obrolan-bandar] FW: WARNING : BUMI DEMAM TINGGI

2008-05-12 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

 

 

BUMI DEMAM TINGGI!

Apa Anda merasakannya? 

Malas berlama-lama di bawah sinar matahari? 

Tidak juga dengan pertolongan topi atau payung? 

Tidak cukup dengan kipas? 

Kebutuhan pendingin ruangan kian tinggi? 

Pagi terasa seperti siang yang menusuk? 

Siang membuat dehidrasi? 

Musim kemarau lebih panjang?

Demam berdarah dan malaria muncul dimana-mana?

Hujan deras tiba-tiba datang dan mengundang banjir?

Jawabannya, ya! 

Dekade 1990-an dan 2000-an adalah 10 tahun terpanas! 

World Meteorological Organization. 

Kok bisa?

Permukaan bumi dilapisi dengan Gas Rumah Kaca (GRK). Ketika masuk 
atmosfer Bumi, panas matahari harus melewati panel ini. Kemudian diserap oleh 
tanah, air, dan ekosistem lain. Makanya, Bumi terasa hangat. Kalau tidak ada 
GRK, Bumi akan dingin dan beku. Proses ini disebut Efek Rumah Kaca. Secara 
alami GRK penting.

TAPI, GRK di atmosfer bertambah kian hari kian cepat. Bahkan terlalu 
cepat. 

Alhasil, Bumi makin panas! 

AKIBATNYA?

a.. Gletser di Kutub Utara dan Selatan mencair! 
b.. 10 - 20% gletser di pegunungan Alpen hilang dalam 20 tahun 
mendatang.
c.. Gletser seluas 33.000 km2 di pegunungan Himalaya mencair
d.. Permukaan air laut naik 9 - 96 cm. Garis pantai bergeser dan 
penduduk pesisir pantai terancam mengungsi! Termasuk Indonesia .
e.. Sumber kebutuhan air tawar sepertiga penduduk dunia kering pada 
tahun 2100. 
f.. Suhu air laut yang panas membuat terumbu karang menjadi putih dan 
mati, termasuk berbagai jenis ikan karang yang jadi sumber makanan manusia 
juga. 
g.. Jumlah kelahiran penyu betina lebih banyak dibandingkan penyu 
jantan akibat suhu pengeraman yang lebih tinggi. 
h.. 80% spesies tanaman dan binatang akan punah dalam 1 abad mendatang.
i.. Kekeringan dan kebakaran hutan di hutan tropis Indonesia kian 
tinggi. Bagaimana dengan orang utan dan habitatnya? Atau, kita, manusia? 
j.. Beberapa jenis nyamuk pembawa penyakit, seperti demam berdarah dan 
malaria, menyebar keluar dari daerah tropis.
k.. Musim kemarau panjang dan musim hujan yang singkat à gagal panen, 
krisis pangan.
l.. Intensitas hujan yang hebat hingga terjadi badai besar, hujan 
keras, dan banjir.
m.. Kira-kira 150,000 jiwa tewas setiap tahunnya akibat pemanasan 
global. Tahun 2003, gelombang udara panas di Eropa menelan 25.482 jiwa. 
n.. Perkiraan kerugian dari perubahan iklim mencapai USD 11 milyar atau 
sekitar Rp 110 trilyun per tahun!

KITA, PENYEBABNYA!

Kita seringkali menggunakan bahan bakar fosil (batu bara, gas alam, 
minyak bumi) dalam beraktivitas. Pertumbuhan penduduk, perkembangan industri, 
dan teknologi makin menambah parah jumlah emisi GRK yang dilepas ke udara. 

Darimana datangnya GRK?

1.. 37% total emisi CO2 datang dari sektor listrik à polutan terbesar: 
23 trilyun ton emisi CO2 per tahun atau lebih dari 700 ton per detik dari 
pembangkit listrik berbahan bakar fosil.
2.. Pembuangan transportasi. Kendaraan yang mengonsumsi 7,8 liter bahan 
bakar per 100 km dan menempuh jarak 16 ribu km, setiap tahunnya mengeluarkan 
emisi 3 ton CO2 ke udara!
3.. Penggundulan atau pembakaran hutan.


Tahukah Anda?

Saat kita menonton TV, menyalakan AC, menyalakan lampu, menggunakan 
pengering rambut, bermain video game, menggunakan microwave, 
mencuci/mengeringka n pakaian dengan mesin cuci, menyetrika baju, dan semua 
aktivitas yang menggunakan listrik berarti kita sudah membuat Bumi bertambah 
panas. 

Apa yang bisa SAYA lakukan?

Smart Saving:

1.. Memilih teknologi terbaru yang membutuhkan energi sedikit namun 
tetap nyaman. Atau, ganti lampu hemat listrik. Menggunakan energi dengan 
bijaksana akan mengurangi kebocoran energi yang tidak perlu.
2.. Lebih sedikit gunakan kendaraan dalam perjalanan singkat atau 
dekat. Jalan kaki, kayuh sepeda, naik mobil beramai-ramai, dan kendaraan umum, 
selain akan menghemat pengeluaran transport Anda, tentu saja mengurangi 
karbondioksida. Sekaligus olah raga, kan ? 
3.. Periksa ban kendaraan Anda. Menjaga kesehatan ban Anda secara 
teratur mengurangi 10 kg karbondioksida di atmosfer. 
4.. Daur ulang sering-sering. Anda bisa menghemat 1200 kg 
karbondioksida per tahun HANYA dengan mendaur ulang setengah sampah kertas Anda 
sehari.
5.. Butuh air hangat untuk mandi, air panas untuk minum kopi dan teh, 
atau mencuci pakaian? Gunakan secukupnya dan Anda mengurangi 420 kg 
karbondioksida per tahun. Banyak, kan ?
6.. 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTRA , secara teknikal golden cross

2008-02-07 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

Skrg harga sekarang berapa?  Udah tajir dong bu?



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of monique.boentaran
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:57 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: PTRA , secara teknikal golden cross

 

gw kolek mulai 60 sampai harga sekarang

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 Nyali sih ada... cm sahamnya ga likuid... alias saham molor
 tidur mul..
 
 Kalo untuk koleksi jangka puanjanggg sih okeh ajehh.. btw monique
kolek
 di hrg brp???
 
 
 
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 Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PTRA , secara teknikal golden cross
 
 
 
 bagi yg punya nyali buy ptra, MA 5 tembus MA 20
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] VALUE trans hari ini 40T lebih?

2008-02-15 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Kyknya BNBR..

 

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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] VALUE trans hari ini 40T lebih?

 

Mohon info temans, apakah bener val trans hari ini 40T lebih? Ada trans
TS 
sekitar 36.5T btw trans saham apa ya? thks buat infonya...

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] VALUE trans hari ini 40T lebih?

2008-02-15 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Sepertinya transaksi tutup sendiri Mungkin dalam rangka akusisi...



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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] VALUE trans hari ini 40T lebih?

 

Terima kasih Pak Prasetyo n Pak Wiro atas infonya

 

hmmmh... membingungkan juga ya kalo gini, right issue masih 2 bulanan
kalo gak salah tapi udah ada perpindahan saham yang luar biasa... well
anyone have any info about this? thanks for the info...

 

rgds,

 

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Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] VALUE trans hari ini 40T lebih?

 

Kyknya BNBR..

 

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Mohon info temans, apakah bener val trans hari ini 40T lebih?
Ada trans TS 
sekitar 36.5T btw trans saham apa ya? thks buat infonya...

rgds, 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan Elsa Bangkit

2008-02-15 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Nyangkut banyak kayaknya nich..



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Kapan Elsa Bangkit

 

Hello Rekan rekan,

Tolong bantu dong analisanya Kapan Elsa bangkit lagi ke level 500-an.

Sebelumnya saya Terima Kasih sekali analisanya


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^BSESN

Albert Ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Mau tanya... anu.. Bombay itu kodenya di yahoo apa ya?
Thx

 

 

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lagi, Crocodile Dundee tidur

 

Bombay mulai belajar barongsai,, mulai naik lg skrg..
1305

 





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RE: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY bikin kaget

2008-02-15 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

He3... kesetrum BNBR kali ya



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Sent: Friday, February 15, 2008 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] ELTY bikin kaget

 

Iya nih, elty ada berita apa? Apa menjelang rups mulai main? Rups-nya
maret ya?

Anyone with news or rumour, please share. Thank you!

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kayaknya sebelum lunch masih anteng2 aja deh?

ada apa yah?

 

  



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Nikel, Copper + Metal yang laen2 Rebound

2008-02-18 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

ANTM koreksi dulu ke 3600... baru nanti rebound lagi... kasih kesempatan
yang belum kebagian cuan He3...



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ANTM kok belum ya, bandar masih gertak ya...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO : Akumulasi

2008-02-18 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Bagaimana dgn GGRM apakah cukup bagus buat dikoleksi?



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:51 AM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO : Akumulasi

 

Biar variasi gitu lho... jangan hanya ANTM ama BUMI aja..

Analisa CNKO, emang rada mahal seh, Tapi masih banyak peluang naiknya..
MACD signal naik (beberapa hari lalau cross MACD)

Kalau tembus 210 (2 point dari 200 - harga sekarang) atau FIBO 38, 
maka berpeluang naik ke 250 (Fibo 23,6)

Beritanya kan CNKO mau kerjasama dengan singapura, kalau lancar katanya 
bisa naikin profit 10x lipat..

Selama 2 bulan terakhir udah oversold, makanya, peluang naiknya lumayan 
besar

Bisa dikoleksi nih di kisaran 190-200
Teman2 OB yang laen gimana commentnya mengenai CNKO...

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] GGRM

2008-02-19 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Tks pak gozali  A3K buat infonya...



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Handoyo Gozali
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 2:39 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] GGRM

 

di NY pun Altria alias Phillip Morris (begitu juga Honeywell) sudah
dikeluarkan dari DJIA digantikan Bank of America  Chevron.

 

Bisa dilihatkan industri apa yang perlu diperhatikan ke depannya.

 

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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] GGRM

 


Kalo utk saya prbadi (and the real facts do not make a
different),
Industri rokok itu gak punya growth dan masuk dalam kategori
sunset industri
Kalo dari syariah gak masuk hitungan (haram)

Dia punya diversifikasi Cuma dua arah, Marlboro bikin kretek
atau
sampoerna bikin rokok putih

Atau dia jual sekalian dan masuk ke industri lain yang lebih
futuristic
(bank, agri, hotel dsb)

A3K


From: [mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Prasetyo, Hani
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:15 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO : Akumulasi

Bagaimana dgn GGRM apakah cukup bagus buat dikoleksi?

From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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[mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of hendrik_lwww
Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:51 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CNKO : Akumulasi

Biar variasi gitu lho... jangan hanya ANTM ama BUMI aja..

Analisa CNKO, emang rada mahal seh, Tapi masih banyak peluang
naiknya..
MACD signal naik (beberapa hari lalau cross MACD)

Kalau tembus 210 (2 point dari 200 - harga sekarang) atau FIBO
38,
maka berpeluang naik ke 250 (Fibo 23,6)

Beritanya kan CNKO mau kerjasama dengan singapura, kalau lancar
katanya
bisa naikin profit 10x lipat..

Selama 2 bulan terakhir udah oversold, makanya, peluang naiknya
lumayan
besar

Bisa dikoleksi nih di kisaran 190-200
Teman2 OB yang laen gimana commentnya mengenai CNKO...

With Love...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Minyak sudah USD96,38 knp MEDC masih di 4000?

2008-02-19 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Sabar pak Koleksi aja dulu...TTM ajalah... tunggu tanggal mainnya...

Banyak yang nyangkut ya pak ;)

 



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Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2008 4:23 PM
To: saham; ob
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Minyak sudah USD96,38 knp MEDC masih di 4000?

 

Harga Minyak belakangan ini naik ke USD 96,38 per Barrel (Jam 16:20 WIB)
dekati tertinggi di USD 100,9 tetapi MEDC ga naik malah Turun ke 4025
(tertinggi MEDC di 6400) kapan ya MEDC bisa naik kencang? minimal ke
atas Rp.5,000.

Ada yang tau ga kenapa MEDC ga Naik2?

  



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Stock Picking 25/2/2008

2008-02-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Pak hendrik cm pengen tau kenapa BUMI ga termasuk target portfolio
anda???



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Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:06 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Stock Picking 25/2/2008

 

Daripada bicara ilmu toge, nih stock pickingnya...

Akumulasi (Mid - Long Term)
LPPS TP 130 
CNKO TP 220 KALAU MAU TEK-TOK BELI 200 JUAL 205
LPPS dan CNKO biar variasi, Blue Chip Tok Bosenin

PTBA TP 12.000
ANTM TP 5.000 Short Term 4.400 
UNSP TP 3.000 Short Term 2.600
TLKM TP 11.000 Short Term 10.500
BMRI TP 4.800 Short Term 3.500
BBNI TP 2.000 Short Term 1.750
INDF TP 4.000
UNVR TP 10.000 Short Term 7000 (kalau tembus bakal naik kenceng)
INCO TP 10.000 Short Term 9600

Yang Isu n Performancenya lagi Asik:
BTEL
BMRI
INDF
TLKM
PTBA
ANTM
INCO

Jangka PAnjang (sangat..sangat panjang)
MNCN
UNVR
TLKM
LPPS
INCO

Teman2 silahkan tambahin yang lainnya...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan Tril

2008-02-24 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Profit TRIL 2007 dibanding 2006 naik signifikan  300% ...



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Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:51 AM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Ada apa dengan Tril

 

All,

Ada apa dengan TRIL yah? 2 Hari terakhir bergerak cukup signifikan?? 
Apakah ada corporate actions?

Thx in advance

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Switch to small caps!

2008-02-27 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Contohnya apa nih yang fundamentalnya bagus dan industrinya lagi
kemilau...



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Switch to small caps!

 

Like just said by member of the forum there is much hidden treasure in
small caps. Safe Trading 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Switch to small caps!

2008-02-27 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Yang penting likuid juga pak...



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Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 3:13 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Switch to small caps!

 

YAng Bagus tapi sering terlupakan :
CNKO,CPRO, MYRX (Spekulasi)
LPPS (emang bagus, profit 4x dalam 1 tahun, PE cuman 2, PBV di bawah 1)
MNCN (bagus, tapi jarang dimainin bandar, sekarang harganya sekitar 
600an, kemurahan tuh..)

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] MNCN : Besok menukik naik tajam, atau turun tajam

2008-02-27 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Wah pak hendrik brani jg ya. prediksi saya malah bakal turun sampe
500 dulu baru rebound kalo ada aksi korporasi baru...

Skrg MNCN lagi sepi berita2 positif pak



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] MNCN : Besok menukik naik tajam, atau turun
tajam

 

Menyentuh FIBO 0%,he3... Menarik.. Tadi saya dapat MNCN di 610, BUat
coba2,he3...

 

  



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Diskusi BUMI

2008-03-03 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

Dengar2 BNBR mo akusisi BUMI di harga 5432, ENRG di 1249 dab ELTY di
556...

Mungkin itu sebabnya pada banyak yang jual...



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Diskusi BUMI

 

Gerakan BUMI liar banget. Kemungkinannya:

 

1. Memang koreksi wajar. Tapi kok liar dan melawan harga pasar coal yang
lagi naek?

2. Bandar mau cepat2 akumulasi karena kalau kelamaan bisa ketahuan dan
biaya mahal.

3. 

4.

5.

 

Ada yang lain. Tolong ditambahi wae.

 

Kalau saya tetap hold dulu, menunggu market stabil dulu baru ambil
posisi. Saat ini prediksi saya lebih ke arah bandar yang mau cepet2
akumulasi. Tampaknya bandar ini nafsu banget ngejar setoran.

 

Kalau seperti TMPI, mudah2an tidak. Soalnya kalau sudah turun segila
TMPI biaya ngangkatnya tinggi banget dan beresiko sekali di masa depan. 

Juga profit BUMI sekarang dan 2 tahun mendatang masih bagus. 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] TP UNSP ?

2008-01-31 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Paling ga 3000-an tembus pak... tunggu kalo CPO naik diatas USD 1000..

Knp nyangkut juga ya???



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apakah ada yang tahu TP UNSP ?

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

2008-01-31 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Boleh tau Pak trade focus ke saham apa saja...



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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:47 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

 

nice trick pak tbumi.
that's what i do right now.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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 wrote:
 
  Nah mulai deh Antm disanjung2 lagi setelah dihujat2 bulan lalu. 
 Hehe 
  Antm..antm...nasibmu...Kalo investor jangka panjang macam pak 
tbumi 
  mah SANTAI AJA BOZZ, katanya :-)
  Antm mah mau naik mau turun tetap oke punya. Tunggu 5 thn ;p 
  
  
  SIP : tbumi
 Utk mendapatkan keuntungan dari saham yg baik seperti ANTM
 dgn cara nge short atau cut loss, tentu nantinya akan rugi
 sendiri karena rebound ANTM bisa cepat sekali.
 Bagi yg suka daily trading dan tangannya gatal utk melakukan
 transaksi boleh perhatikan ide ide ini :
 - konsentrasi ke 3 sampai 5 saham yg baik saja agar pemain bisa
 menguasai harga harga saham tsb. Market tak bisa menunggu anda
 lama utk berpikir ttg harga tsb, karena dlm hitungan detik
 saja harga bisa berubah. 
 - contoh saham A : 10 Lot, B 10 Lot C 10 Lot dan D 10 Lot.
 7 Lot atau 70% dari masing masing saham A,B, C dan D disimpam 
 saja utk jangka panjang dan sisa 3 LOT atau 30% masing masing
 saham siap utk di perjual belikan saja / daily trading. 
 Jika A sdh naik tajam dan carilah saham B,C atau D yg kebetulan
 turun harganya. Disaat inilah boleh jual A dan dananya pindah
 ke C yg lagi turun. Bila nanti suatu hari C naik dan bisa tukar
 dgn saham B atau D / A. Jadi pemain biasanya putar putar dari
 A sampai ke D saja utk dpt profit.


 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

2008-01-31 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Pak LungUNVR bs diliat PERnya kalo diatas 20X memeang kemahalan...



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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

 

Pak Tbum,

saya mau nanya saham2 mana yang termasuk 5 saham itu.

saya sih cuma punya UNVR dan ANTM, cuma UNVR itu kata orang uda
kemahalan, benar ga pak TBUM,

 

mohon pencerahannya

 

siau.lung

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From: tbumi mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:40 PM

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com , Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Nah mulai deh Antm disanjung2 lagi setelah dihujat2 bulan
lalu. 
Hehe 
 Antm..antm...nasibmu...Kalo investor jangka panjang macam pak
tbumi 
 mah SANTAI AJA BOZZ, katanya :-)
 Antm mah mau naik mau turun tetap oke punya. Tunggu 5 thn ;p 
 
 
 SIP : tbumi
Utk mendapatkan keuntungan dari saham yg baik seperti ANTM
dgn cara nge short atau cut loss, tentu nantinya akan rugi
sendiri karena rebound ANTM bisa cepat sekali.
Bagi yg suka daily trading dan tangannya gatal utk melakukan
transaksi boleh perhatikan ide ide ini :
- konsentrasi ke 3 sampai 5 saham yg baik saja agar pemain bisa
menguasai harga harga saham tsb. Market tak bisa menunggu anda
lama utk berpikir ttg harga tsb, karena dlm hitungan detik
saja harga bisa berubah. 
- contoh saham A : 10 Lot, B 10 Lot C 10 Lot dan D 10 Lot.
7 Lot atau 70% dari masing masing saham A,B, C dan D disimpam 
saja utk jangka panjang dan sisa 3 LOT atau 30% masing masing
saham siap utk di perjual belikan saja / daily trading. 
Jika A sdh naik tajam dan carilah saham B,C atau D yg kebetulan
turun harganya. Disaat inilah boleh jual A dan dananya pindah
ke C yg lagi turun. Bila nanti suatu hari C naik dan bisa tukar
dgn saham B atau D / A. Jadi pemain biasanya putar putar dari
A sampai ke D saja utk dpt profit. 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

2008-02-01 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Minimal dibawah PER BEI atau PER rata2 industri consumer goods...
sekitar  17X



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Siau Lung
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 3:11 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

 

emang PER UNVR yang bagus di angka berapa ya?

 

thanks untuk infonya

 

 

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From: Prasetyo, Hani
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:50 PM

Subject: RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

 

Pak LungUNVR bs diliat PERnya kalo diatas 20X memeang
kemahalan...





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From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Siau Lung
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:04 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

Pak Tbum,

saya mau nanya saham2 mana yang termasuk 5 saham itu.

saya sih cuma punya UNVR dan ANTM, cuma UNVR itu kata orang uda
kemahalan, benar ga pak TBUM,

mohon pencerahannya

siau.lung

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From: tbumi mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  

To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Friday, February 01, 2008 1:40 PM

Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Target Price ANTM

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com , Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Nah mulai deh Antm disanjung2 lagi setelah dihujat2
bulan lalu. 
Hehe 
 Antm..antm...nasibmu...Kalo investor jangka panjang
macam pak tbumi 
 mah SANTAI AJA BOZZ, katanya :-)
 Antm mah mau naik mau turun tetap oke punya. Tunggu 5
thn ;p 
 
 
 SIP : tbumi
Utk mendapatkan keuntungan dari saham yg baik seperti
ANTM
dgn cara nge short atau cut loss, tentu nantinya akan
rugi
sendiri karena rebound ANTM bisa cepat sekali.
Bagi yg suka daily trading dan tangannya gatal utk
melakukan
transaksi boleh perhatikan ide ide ini :
- konsentrasi ke 3 sampai 5 saham yg baik saja agar
pemain bisa
menguasai harga harga saham tsb. Market tak bisa
menunggu anda
lama utk berpikir ttg harga tsb, karena dlm hitungan
detik
saja harga bisa berubah. 
- contoh saham A : 10 Lot, B 10 Lot C 10 Lot dan D 10
Lot.
7 Lot atau 70% dari masing masing saham A,B, C dan D
disimpam 
saja utk jangka panjang dan sisa 3 LOT atau 30% masing
masing
saham siap utk di perjual belikan saja / daily trading. 
Jika A sdh naik tajam dan carilah saham B,C atau D yg
kebetulan
turun harganya. Disaat inilah boleh jual A dan dananya
pindah
ke C yg lagi turun. Bila nanti suatu hari C naik dan
bisa tukar
dgn saham B atau D / A. Jadi pemain biasanya putar putar
dari
A sampai ke D saja utk dpt profit. 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] CPO siang ini di 3311 ( CPO Future Apr 08)

2008-02-03 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Feeling aja pak he3... soalnya CPO tembus RM 3,300 =  USD 1,000.00



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Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 11:32 AM
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] CPO siang ini di 3311 ( CPO Future Apr 08)

 

datanya didapat dari mana Pak ?  mohon dishare

On Feb 4, 2008 11:17 AM, Prasetyo, Hani
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UNSP / SGRO siap2 cuan lagi...



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] CPO siang ini di 3311 ( CPO Future Apr 08)

2008-02-03 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

UNSP / SGRO siap2 cuan lagi...



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] CPO siang ini di 3311 ( CPO Future Apr 08)

 

 

 



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[obrolan-bandar] BNBR tembus 400

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Naga2nya BNBR bakal tembus 400 nih Asing ikutan main...

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] PTRA , secara teknikal golden cross

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Nyali sih ada... cm sahamnya ga likuid... alias saham molor
tidur mul..

Kalo untuk koleksi jangka puanjanggg sih okeh ajehh.. btw monique kolek
di hrg brp???



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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] PTRA , secara teknikal golden cross

 

bagi yg punya nyali buy ptra, MA 5 tembus MA 20

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Dicurangi gimana maksudnya pak... 

 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew wijaya
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 2:53 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

 

Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja
perusahaan perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga
saat ini, hanya +/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the
spot. Cuma PE ini berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya
ada menghitung penurunan Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam
negri yg kebetulan punya kebon sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum
punya pabrik akan terganggu. Contoh perusahaan perkebunan yg punya
pabrik yg diuntungkan krn kebijakan ini antara lain Group INDF dan SMAR,
serta TBLA (perusahaan ini bagus tapi ada kecendrungan dicurangi
pemegang saham pengendali).

Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
jika iya, bagus donk..



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Karena saya ngga pakai TA , jadi kalo turun yah masuk dong ...

 

 

 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

TBLA kalo ga salah yg pegang Sungai Budi Group (BUDI)... thanks
infonya...

 



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Harga jual perusahaan boleh naik tapi fee dari agen penjual juga ikut
naik. Semua transaksi baik mesin dan produk perseroan dilakukan oleh
perusahaan yg dimiliki oleh pemegang saham pengendali. Setiap periode
tertentu khususnya ketika harga melonjak, maka fee yg dibebankan kepada
perseroan juga ikut dinaikan dgn segala macam alasan. Yah kalo murah
sekali si boleh tapi kalo relatif wajar sih ntar dulu yah.

Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Prasetyo, Hani
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Dicurangi gimana maksudnya pak... 

 



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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: CPO Break New High

 

Dgn harga sekarang sesungguhnya belum berpengaruh pada kinerja
perusahaan perkebunan krn harga jual mereka relatif masih dibawah harga
saat ini, hanya +/- 20-30% dari total produksi yg mengikuti harga on the
spot. Cuma PE ini berpengaruh untuk perkembangan industri ke depan, saya
ada menghitung penurunan Ppn eksport hanya menguntungkan industri dalam
negri yg kebetulan punya kebon sedang perusahaan perkebunan yg belum
punya pabrik akan terganggu. Contoh perusahaan perkebunan yg punya
pabrik yg diuntungkan krn kebijakan ini antara lain Group INDF dan SMAR,
serta TBLA (perusahaan ini bagus tapi ada kecendrungan dicurangi
pemegang saham pengendali).

Pada tanggal 05/02/08, Irawan Sudarman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  menulis:

jika harga luar naik, apakah harga domestik juga naik ?
jika iya, bagus donk..

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTAM menari Poco poco...,

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

Sekuritas downgrade - yg pegang sell off - asing buy - upgrade - asing
sell - asing cuan - yg cut loss gigit jempol He3...

 



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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 4:06 PM
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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTAM menari Poco poco...,

 

Akhirnya OD hari ini nyerah, ngikutin ML mendowngrade ANTM!
Downgrade ANTM to HOLD, TP 3800

Pak Eka Downgrade, diikuti ML lalu OD.

Hat Off, Take a Bow to Pak Eka Suwandana!

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betul pa SB, manusia berusaha YMK yang nentuin, tapi usaha tetep perlu.
Btw, Happy Chinese New Year to all ya. wass, eka

 

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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:


Betul sekali Rei, memang kasian, begitulah kalo yg blm pengalaman,
padahal kalo saja mo berpikir dg ratio yg jernih, manusia aja yg
ciptaanNYA dlm membuat sesuatu sdh pake rencana, apalagi YMK, sblm
setiap manusia diciptakanNYA, masing2 sdh dibuatkan scenarionya, jd
akhirnya yah ssuai dg yg anda katakan, kalo sdh rezekinya ga bakal
nyasar ke-mana2, bs kacau balau dong dunia ini hehehe..

SB


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Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:09:48
To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:To:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: ANTAM menari Poco poco...,


Kemungkinan banyak sekali pak...ada ribuan, kalo pak Bill mikirin
 terus, ntar bisa masuk RS Grogol hehehe...Santai aja dan yg penting
 stick to your PLAN.Uang akan datang sendiri kalo pikiran kita
 tenang, rejeki nggak kemana-mana kalo memang sdh milik kita. Mau
 gimana pun kalo memang bukan rejeki, tidak akan untung.
 Ada pepatah dari dewa Chi Kung yg bunyinya, Setiap manusia sdh ada
 garis rejekinya, ngapain meminta lagi? Memang kita harus berusaha,
 tapi kalo sampai membuat diri sendiri susah, buat apa. Betul Pak
 SBudiana?

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  Kenapa setiap bumi naik antam mendem, gw dah jual di 4025 dan
 4000,
  buyback diharga bawah dgn porsi kecil...
 
  mmhhh, ada news apa nih apa bid herald itu dinaikin
 bumi ... apa
  market dah tau kalo harga nickel mang gak sedahsyat, 2007
 mrka ambil
  cuan dgn memanfaatin LK, trus kabur...
 
  LK 2007 antam mang OKkrn wkt itu harga nickel sungguh
 melangit, tp
  skr...,
 



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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BNBR masi Oke Gak?

2008-02-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

Masih seputar Bakrie UNSP / ELTY / BUMI Terkait akusisi oleh BNBR
selain harga komoditasnya yang naik



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Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BNBR masi Oke Gak?

 

Next.. yang bagus apa ya selain BNBR
:-)





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Alhamdulillahga percuma Om Bakrie jadi orang terkaya di Indonesia 
karena dia mau berbagi sama kita2, semoga sukses buat Om Bakrie dan 
tentunya akan membawa berkah buat Fans BNBR he hehe

Salam

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 BNBR bisa dibawa ke 400 ama om bakrie, kalo ga right issue nya ga 
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: RI BDMN

2009-02-17 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
BD mo cuci gudang dulu... hrg dinaikin biar distribusi lancar...

Dana cash buat pasang ember di 1250

 



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Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:18 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: RI BDMN

 

kok bdmn malah naik 7.7%

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 BDMN akhirnya resmi mengungkapkan bahwa bank ini akan melakukan rights
 
 issue senilai Rp 4trn. Pada pekan ini BDMN akan mengumumkan detail
 
 mengenai rights issue tersebut. Dikabarkan harga saham baru akan
 
 ditawarkan 45% lebih rendah dari harga pasar.
 
 
 
 Komentar analyst : Dengan diskon 45%, penawaran harga saham rights
issue
 
 akan berada di level Rp 1237, suatu penawaran yang menarik menurut
 
 pandangan kami. Target price untuk BDMN adalah Rp 2250 menurut
 
 perhitungan kami. (IPOT)





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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

2009-02-25 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Kalo yang nyangkut biarin aja Mbah asal ga pake margin...  

kedepannya selektif invest di saham2 yang masih prospek taun ini... spt
coal  infra...

 



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Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:04 PM
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Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

 

Apakah sebaiknya MELIKWIDASI investasi dulu ?

Ada yg tanya seperti begini, ini pertanyaan yg sangat penting,
jadi embah lemparkan aja ke floor biar dibahas bersama sama:

Kapan investor balik ke BEI ?:

- 31 Maret 09, penyampaian lap keuangan final 2008, IHSG 
akan bergejolak karena banyak laporan keuangan yg akan 
mirip INCO dan BDMN yang performancenya jatuh pada Q4 
terutama emiten sektor commodity.
- 30 April penyampaian lap keuangan Q1 2009, IHSG kembali bergejolak
karena:
- Performance Q1/2009 akan jatuh BANGET dibanding Q1/2008
terutama sektor commodity.
- Dampak resesi global akan NAMPAK pada laporan Q1/2009.
- Minggu kedua April ada pemilu legislatif, investor akan
wait and see.

Apakah Investor akan mulai masuk ke BEI pada pertengahan April
sesudah pemilu ?.

Pada saat ini mungkin sudah jelas apakah DOW akan kelevel 6000 ?
dan apakah IHSG balik kelevel 900 ?.

Gimana menurut teman2 ?. Apakah sesudah pemilu presiden bulan
September ?. Tapi ini kejauhan, mungkin Dow udah rebound dari
LOWnya saat itu ?.




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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: E-Toll Card (OOT)

2009-02-03 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Kalo offline kan masih bisa terima cash pak……jadi tetep pake petugas… gituu

Kelebihannya kan duit lgsg msk kerek. JSMR di BMRI… jd ga ada idle fund   
kebocoran…



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com [mailto:obrolan-ban...@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Effendy Kho
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 2:12 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: E-Toll Card (OOT)

 

Jadi masih tetap pake petugas juga? 
Kampungan benar ya. 

Salam, 
 Ase™ 
--- 


gak OOT banget kok,  ada BMRI, JSMR ama CMNP nya.. 



  


Petunjuk Penggunaan e-Toll Card 




1. 

Pengertian e-Toll Card 


  

e-Toll Card adalah kartu prabayar contactless smart card yang diterbitkan oleh 
Bank Mandiri bekerja sama dengan PT. Jasa Marga (Persero) Tbk, PT. Citra Marga 
Nusaphala Persada Tbk dan PT. Marga Mandalasakti untuk transaksi pembayaran 
tol. e_toll Card menggunakan teknologi RFID (Radio Frequency Identification) 
yang memungkinkan transaksi dapat dilakukan dari jarak jauh (contactless). 
Fitur e-Toll Card secara lengkap sebagai berikut : 


  


Saldo tersimpan pada chip kartu sehingga pada saat transaksi tidak dibutuhkan 
PIN atau tanda tangan. 
Dapat diisi ulang. 
Minimum saldo kartu Rp. 10.000,- 
Maksimal saldo kartu Rp. 1.000.000,- (sesuai ketentuan Bank Indonesia ). 
Saldo mengendap pada kartu tidak diberikan bunga. 


2. 

Penjualan Kartu Perdana 


  

Masyarakat dapat membeli kartu perdana e-Toll Card di cabang-cabang utama Bank 
Mandiri di Jabodetabek dan kantor gerbang operator tol tertentu. 


3. 

Lokasi penggunaan e-Toll Card 


  

e-Toll Card dapat digunakan untuk melakukan pembayaran di: 


  


Tarif tol pada ruas yang bertanda e-Toll Card 

Cawang - Tomang - Cengkareng 
Cawang - Tanjung Priok - Pluit 
Cikupa - Merak 
·  Toko Indomaret (mulai 15 Maret 2009) 
·  SPBU (mulai 15 Maret 2009) 


4. 

Cara bertransaksi di Gardu Tol 


  


Pengguna tol menyerahkan e-Toll Card kepada petugas di gardu tol 
Petugas gardu tol memilih golongan kendaraan dan menyentuhkan e-Toll Card pada 
card reader. Saldo uang pada e-Toll Card akan berkurang sesuai tarif tol yang 
telah ditentukan 
Petugas tol menyerahkan kembali e-Toll Card dan tanda terima pembayaran kepada 
pengguna tol 


5. 

Isi Ulang 


  

Pemegang Kartu dapat melakukan isi ulang/menambah jumlah saldo dengan pilihan 
nominal antara lain Rp 50.000, Rp 100.000, Rp 200.000, Rp 300.000, Rp 500.000 
atau nominal lainnya sesuai keinginan. Isi ulang dapat dilakukan dengan kartu 
mandiri debit 


  

Metode isi ulang e-Toll Card dilakukan melalui 2 tahap yaitu proses pembayaran 
(pendebitan rekening) dan proses pengisian (memindahkan uang Anda ke fisik 
e-Toll Card sebagai berikut : 
  




  

Tabel cara Isi Ulang 

  


  

No. 

Sarana Isi Ulang 

Lokasi 


Pembayaran 

Pengisian 


  

1. 

EDC 

Cabang Bank Mandiri, Operator Tol, Indomaret, SPBU 

Cabang Bank Mandiri, Operator Tol, Indomaret, SPBU 


  

2. 

mandiri internet 

Dimana saja 


  

3. 

mandiri sms 

Dimana saja 


  

4. 

mandiri call *) 

Dimana saja 


  

5. 

mandiri atm *) 

4.100 ATM 


  

*) Mulai 1 April 2009 

  
  




  

Cara melakukan proses pembayaran dengan mandiri sms ketik: 


  

isispaciprespacinomor kartuspacirupiahspaciPIN 


  

kirim sms tersebut ke 3355 


  

Cara melakukan pengisian uang di kartu melalui EDC Bank Mandiri: 


  


Tekan MENU 
Pilih PREPAID dengan menekan tanda panah kemudian tekan ENTER 
Pilih UPDATE SALDO dengan menekan tanda panah kemudian tekan ENTER 
Sentuhkan e-Toll Card pada reader contactless 
Transaksi berhasil, kertas struk tercetak saldo di e-Toll Card bertambah 
  




  

Tabel Daftar Lokasi Isi Ulang e-Toll Card 


  

No. 

Lokasi 

Alamat 


  

1. 

Kantor Pusat Jasa Marga 

Plaza Tol Taman Mini Indonesia Indah Jakarta 13650; Kotak POS 4354, Jakarta 
12043 


  

2. 

Cabang Cililitan Jasa Marga *) 

Plaza Tol Cililitan, Jl. Cililitan Besar, Jakarta 13510 


  

3. 

Gerbang Tol Cengkareng Jasa Marga *) 

Kantor Gerbang Tol Cengkareng (arah Bandara - Jakarta) 


  

4. 

Gerbang Tol Kapuk Jasa Marga *) 

Kantor Gerbang Tol Kapuk 


  

5. 

Gerbang Tol Halim Jasa Marga *) 

Kantor Gerbang Tol Halim 


  

6. 

Lobby Gedung CMNP Sunter 

CMNP Building, Jl. Yos Sudarso Kav 28, Jakarta 14350 


  

7. 

Lobby Kantor MMS Karawaci 

Karawaci Office Park Blok H No. 66-68 Lippo Karawaci - Tangerang 


  

8. 

Lobby Kantor Cabang MMS Serang 

Kantor Cabang Tol Serang 


  

9. 

Groung Floor Kantor Pusat Bank Mandiri 

Jl. Jend Gatot Subroto Kav 36-38, Jakarta Selatan 12190 


  

10. 

Kantor Utama Bank Mandiri 

Jabodetabek 


  

11. 

Merchant Bank Mandiri 

Indomaret dan SPBU (mulai 15 Maret 2009) 
  




6. 

Cek Saldo 


  

Cek saldo dapat dilakukan di lokasi isi ulang di atas atau melalui layanan 
mandiri internet dan mandiri sms. Cara cek saldo kartu melalui mandiri sms, 
ketik: 


  

salspaciprespacinomor kartu dan kirim ke 3355 


  

Contoh: sal pre 60329899 


7. 


RE: [obrolan-bandar] Dokumen verifikasi SP

2009-02-10 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Saya terima via kurir hari ini 

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
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Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:34 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dokumen verifikasi SP

 

belum, barusan telp ke cabang yogya,  baru dicetak sampe kode F**, jumat
baru dikirim ke cabang, mesti di telp-in terus tuh org sp pusat.temen
temen sp yg ada di jkt tolong sharing.


thx 
gunawan yk 

2009/2/11 fuyi anip...@gmail.com mailto:anip...@gmail.com 

blon pak

2009/2/11, Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id
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tolong share, ada gak yang sudah trima dokumen hasil verifikasi final
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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Dokumen verifikasi SP

2009-02-11 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Dikirim kekantor di Casablanca dpn boplo... Kalo ga ada masalah paling
1-2 hr diterima... 

 

 



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Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:52 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dokumen verifikasi SP

 

pak hani ada di jakarta  ?

On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:46 PM, Prasetyo, Hani
hani.prase...@standardchartered.com
mailto:hani.prase...@standardchartered.com  wrote:

Saya terima via kurir hari ini 

 



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Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 2:34 PM


To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Dokumen verifikasi SP

 

belum, barusan telp ke cabang yogya,  baru dicetak sampe kode F**, jumat
baru dikirim ke cabang, mesti di telp-in terus tuh org sp pusat.temen
temen sp yg ada di jkt tolong sharing.


thx 
gunawan yk 

2009/2/11 fuyi anip...@gmail.com mailto:anip...@gmail.com 

blon pak

2009/2/11, Marselinus Sujoko ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id
mailto:ms_joli2...@yahoo.co.id :

tolong share, ada gak yang sudah trima dokumen hasil verifikasi final
SP?

 





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[obrolan-bandar] Lowongan Kerja Tahun 1889

2008-10-08 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani

 

 Ini teks asli dari suatu iklan lowongan kerja di dalam sebuah koran
tahun 1889   
 yang masih tersimpan Perpustakaan Nasional Jakarta sekarang.

 

 

 

  PENGOEMOEMAN !!!

  DAG INLANDER,... ..HAJOO OERANG MELAJOE,...KOWE MAHU KERDJA???

  GOVERNEMENT NEDERLANDSCH INDIE PERLOE KOWE OENTOEK DJADI BOEDAK

  ATAOE TJENTENK DI PERKEBOENAN- PERKEBOENAN ONDERNEMING KEPOENJAAN
GOVERNEMENT   
  NEDERLANDSCH INDIE DJIKA KOWE POENYA SJARAT DAN NJALI

  BERIKOET:

  1. Kowe poenja tangan koeat dan beroerat

  2. Kowe poenja njali gede

  3. Kowe poenja moeka kasar

  4. Kowe poenja tinggal di wilajah Nederlandsch Indie

  5. Kowe boekan kerabat dekat pemberontak- pemberontak ataoepoen maling
ataoepoen mereka 
  jang soedah diberantas liwat actie politioneel.

  6. Kowe beloem djadi boedak nederlander ataoepoen ondernemer ataoe
toean tanah ataoe
  baron eropah.

  7. Kowe maoe bekerdja radjin dan netjes.

  KOWE INLANDER PERLOE DATANG KE RAWA SENAJAN DISANA KOWE HAROES

  DIPILIH LIWAT DJOERI-DJOERI JANG BERTOEGAS :

 

  1. Keliling rawa Senajan 3 kali

  2. Angkat badan liwat 30 kali

  3. Angkat peroet liwat 30 kali

  Kowe mesti ketemoe Mevrouw Shanti, Meneer Tomo en Meneer Atmadjaja

  Kowe nanti akan didjadikan tjentenk oentoek di Toba, Buleleng, Borneo,
Tanamera, Batam, 
 

  Soerabaja,Batavia en Riaoeeiland.

  Governement Nederlandsch Indie memberi oepah :

  1. Makan 3 kali perhari dengan beras poetih dari Bangil

  2. Istirahat siang 1 uur.

  3.Oepah dipotong padjak Governement 40 percent oentoek wang djago.
Haastig kalaoe kowe  
  mahoe..

  Pertanggal 31 Maart 1889 Niet Laat te Zijn Hoor.. Batavia 1889 Onder
de naam van
  Nederlandsch Indie Governor Generaal H.M.S Van den Bergh S.J.J de
Gooij 
 

 

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: ML keukeuh Target 8000 , (fresh 8/10/08) ...

2008-10-09 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Kalo itungan cetek saya tambahin FEAR (PANIC) FACTOR sbg BUFFER sebesar
20%  lagi Mbah...

 

Diskon Embah sampe  60% + 20 %  dalam kondisi market bearish buarea
saat ini, 20% x 8000 = 1600

 

Realistis ga mbah? ;D 

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 2:22 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI: ML keukeuh Target 8000 , (fresh
8/10/08) ...

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , Tom DS [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 *Sebelumnya mohon maaf nih mbah...*
 *Bukannya saya bilang salah, bukan juga saya nggak percaya dengan 
analisa
 ML, tapi kondisi market sekarang tidak seperti yang diestimasikan. 
Metode
 yang digunakan saya yakin cukup bagus, karena sudah standard 
digunakan
 rata-rata FM. Mengenai EPS, semua orang-orang finance pun sudah bisa
 melakukan estimasi.*
 *Yang seharusnya didiskusikan adalah bagaimana menentukan PER yang 
cukup
 sesuai dengan kondisi market seperti ini, biasanya pelaku pasar 
pada umumnya
 akan memberikan discount factor berdasarkan kondisi market saat 
ini, bukan
 hanya melihat PER industry average. *
 **

Bukankah PER industry average = average dari PER emiten2 pada
industry tsb SAAT INI yaitu saat market ancur ancuran ?.

Apakah PER industry average yg disediakan bloomberg cara 
ngitungnya laen ?.

Baru sesudah itu dikasih discount SAFETY FACTOR + discount
tambahan PIG + SHIT untuk kondisi market saat ini...

 *Bisa menggunakan CAPM (Capital Asset Pricing Model) dengan 
memasukkan
 expected return yang disesuaikan dengan penurunan kondisi bursa 
global
 market. Nilai beta bisa menggunakan data 1-2 tahun terakhir, atau 
apabuila
 kesulitan bisa saja langsung ambil asumsi yang digunakan Reuters. 
Tapi
 expected return harus disesuaikan dengan kondisi pasar global saat 
ini
 dengan berbagai asumsi. Saya yakin sudah banyak yang paham masalah 
ini.
 Asumsi yang digunakan pun dengan memasukkan faktor Global Index 
expected
 return, domestic  global inflation, asumsi unrealized loss para 
hedge fund
 besar yang akan dengan sangat mudah tarik dana investasinya di BEI 
(seperti
 yang sedang terjadi saat ini), world economic growth serta beberapa 
kriteria
 macroeconomic. Asumsi2 ini dimasukkan ke menggunakan valuasi 
regresi, dan
 diperoleh Expected market return. Dari sini plus menggunakan data 
beta serta
 risk-free rate baru akan lebih real terlihat intrinsic valuenya. 
Jadi
 menurut saya kuncinya ada di expected market return yang menggunakan
 beberapa asumsi tadi.*
 **
 *Mohon maaf apabila tulisan saya sebelumnya kurang berkenan, dan 
mohon maaf
 pula bagi yang sedang hold BUMI, karena memang managementnya tidak 
secantik
 Astra atau Banpu (shareholder ITMG) contohnya, terutama dalam 
melakukan
 financial engineering. Mereka terlalu bermain dengan tingkat resiko 
yang
 tinggi*

Maaf embah engga bisa kasih komentar ATAS tulisan anda diatas mungkin
bahasa Inggris embah engga cukup canggih untuk nangkep
tulisan pak Tom ... hehehe

Gimana kalo pak Tom kasih KOMENTAR dengan DASAR teori bapak 
yg keliatan ADUHAI CANGGIH untuk memberikan komentar atas 
analisa BUMI dari DS/ML. Pake bahasa yg sederhana saja pak,
supaya audience bisa ngasih tanggapan atas tulisan bapak.

Bagian bagian mana yg tidak masuk akal atau ketinggian ?.
Atau nilai intrinsic BUMI=8000 menurut ML itu memang BETUL dan
WAJAR ?.

Sampe saat ini belum ada SATUPUN member OB yg menyanggah
bahwa analisa si Daisy salah. 

Embah sampe kasih discount 60% untuk memperhitung kondisi global
saat ini, 40% x 8000 = 3200, apakah ini masih kemahalan ?.

 **
 **
 *T.o.m*
 
 
 On 10/9/08, jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com  obrolan-bandar%
40yahoogroups.com,
  hendrik_lwww
  hendrik_lwww@ wrote:
 
  
   MUNGKIN (MUNGKIN LHO YA) ada yang salah tapi karena pada pegang
  BUMI
   jadi diem2 aja,he3...kalau saya sihh ngga tau mana yang
  salah,he3...
   ngga tau ML analisanya gimana..
  
 
  Metoda valuasi yg digunakan adalah STANDARD VALUATION method yg
  dipakai dibidang pasar modal diseluruh dunia. Karena metodanya
  standard, hasil analisanya juga bisa langsung bisa digunakan
  oleh orang pasar modal diseluruh dunia secara LANGSUNG. Cukup
  dicheck asumsi asumsi yg dipakai.
 
  Memang metoda ini agak nyelimet tapi defacto adalah standard untuk
  profesional pasar modal. Kemaren kemaren pak Johan juga 
menyarankan
  pake metoda ML ini ketika embah memberikan metoda valuasi cara
  sederhana pake commodity historical price, cara Simple Valuation
  metoda pak Tirta yang mengambil data Average industry PER dan
  Average Estimate EPS yg ada di reuter.
 
  Atau mungkin pak Oentoeng bisa pake Valuasi metoda pentoeng
  buat BUMI dari persepsi BD.
 
  Sebenarnya menurut Buffett, keuntungan investor kurang lebih
  sama dengan selisih Harga valuasi si ML 

RE: [obrolan-bandar] USD/IDR tembus 10000!

2008-10-09 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
masih di 9800 - 9900 

tp NDF di luar udh traded 10650 

utk 1 bulannya... siap2 aja meluncur kebawah... moga2 BI kuat jagain...

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Aris Sanjaya
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:05 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] USD/IDR tembus 1!

 

waduh.. sempet jantungan saya...

thanks pak... keep monitor our last stronghold

2008/10/10 Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Currency Conversion Results

Dari Yahoo Finance...edan! INi mungkin di luar indo?

2008/10/10 Dean Earwicker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Baca di www.klikbca.com http://www.klikbca.com/  



http://www.klikbca.com/individual/silver/ind/rates.html
http://www.klikbca.com/individual/silver/ind/rates.html 

Jual 9950, beli 9750

Regards,
DE

Pada 10 Oktober 2008 10:52, Andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] menulis:

Barusan, jam 10:48 WIB gw telpon Ayumas, dia jual 9800

Harga mereka biasanya lebih tinggi dari yg lain.

Kalo udah gini pada keluar tuh info yg aneh2.

 

 

-Original Message-
From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Rei
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 10:43 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com 
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] USD/IDR tembus 1!

10150 di Yahoo...tp agak delay kyknya...

 

 

 

 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pelaku Short Selling Kelimpungan

2008-10-10 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Komplit pgas, antm, ptba (jenis blue chip) juga ada Ayo shorter yang
nyangkut silakan mengajukan offernya? 

Harga cingcai-lah ;D

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ihsg 88
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 4:24 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Pelaku Short Selling Kelimpungan

 

Pak saham bakrie sudah tidak bisa di settle hari senin depan sudah
terlambat. Mereka sudah kena denda di hari Kamis.

Yang masih ada napas sedikit adalah yang short hari rabu pagi. Itu jadi
kecelakaan yang luar biasa.

Nah mereka ini tidak ada hubungan dengan bakrie lagi.

Yang banyak itu pgas, antm, ptba (jenis blue chip) dan mereka berdoa
semoga senin bursa di buka sehingga bisa di settle di sekuritasnya
sendiri melalui antar nasabah. Kalau sampai tidak di settle,
sekuritasnya bisa di denda juga. 

 

Mungkin teman-2 ada yang bisa menambahkan.

2008/10/11 Ferry Wachjudi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

BU disini bukan butuh uangkan?? tapi butuh untung... :-D


Adam Rajsha wrote:

 dengan


 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Pelaku Short Selling Kelimpungan

2008-10-10 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Saya punya UNSPyg mo sayah jual diharga 3000/lbr buat shorter yang lagi
kelimpungan 

Silakan japri saja... hehehe

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Adam Rajsha
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 3:42 PM
To: obrolan-bandar
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Pelaku Short Selling Kelimpungan

 

10/10/2008 15:14

Pelaku Short Selling Kelimpungan

http://www.inilah.com/berita/ekonomi/2008/10/10/54065/pelaku-short-selli
ng-kelimpungan/
http://www.inilah.com/berita/ekonomi/2008/10/10/54065/pelaku-short-sell
ing-kelimpungan/ 

La Tanry

 

 

 

 

INILAH.COM, Jakarta - Pelaku short selling kini kelimpungan. Mereka
harus mendapatkan saham untuk diserahkan kepada pembeli, tapi apa lacur
perdagangan ditutup sementara. Tanpa mendapatkan saham, spekulan akan
kena denda 125 kali dari nilai transaksi. 

Perdagangan saham dengan pola short selling terjadi pada Senin (6/10)
dan Selasa (7/10), saat harga saham terus berjatuhan hingga mencapai
10%. Short selling adalah penjualan saham yang sebenarnya bukan miliknya
dengan harapan terjadi penurunan harga sehingga bisa membeli kembali
pada harga lebih rendah. 

Dengan modal dengkul saja, spekulan yang melakukan short selling sudah
bisa untung dengan selisih harga jual dan harga beli. Tapi nasib berkata
lain. Bukannya untung, malah buntung. 

Soalnya, pada Rabu (8/10) pasar ditutup hingga sekarang padahal mereka
belum mendapatkan saham. Sementara deadline penyerahan saham, sesuai
peraturan bursa adalah tiga hari setelah transaksi jual dilakukan. Itu
artinya penyerahannya adalah pada Kamis (9/10) atau Jumat (10/10).

Spekulan yang menderita kerugian paling parah adalah yang melakukan
short selling pada saham-saham kelompok Bakrie yang dihentikan
perdagangannya sejak Selasa (7/10). Karena saham ini kemungkinan besar
masih belum akan diperdagangkan. 

Banyak yang sekarang mencari pinjaman saham dengan bunga tinggi untuk
menyelasaikan transaksi short mereka. Yang penting tidak kena denda yang
mencapai 125%, ujar seorang pemain di bursa.

Begitulah permainan di pasar keuangan. Di tempat ini dikenal adagium
sebagai risiko tinggi, keuntungan tinggi yang bisa juga diartikan
sebaliknya, risiko tinggi, kerugian tinggi. 

Short selling juga dituding sebagai penyebab hancurnya harga saham di
Bursa New York yang populer disebut sebagai Wall Street. Namun,
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utama dunia. Di Indonesia larangan ini terlambat sehingga kerugian sudah
terealisasikan sebelum ada ketentuan baru tentang short selling.

 


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[obrolan-bandar] Opini Wimar Witular : Menyelamatkan Bakrie

2008-10-20 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
 

Baca di okezone.com opini Wimar W yg mengulas

betapa sudah kental dan kronisnya sifat kroni, koncoisme yg kita saat
ini...

Syukur-lah kita masih punya menteri perempuan yg berani dan tegas ..

...

http://news. okezone.com/ index.php/ ReadStory/ 2008/10/20/ 58/155567/
menyelamatkan- bakrie/menyelama tkan-bakrie

 

Menyelamatkan Bakrie

Senin, 20 Oktober 2008 - 10:29 wibPADA saat tulisan ini dikirimkan, CNN
baru mengeluarkan ringkasan hasil polling mengenai debat Presiden
Amerika Serikat.

 

Debat yang dilakukan sebanyak tiga kali itu sudah semua dilakukan.
Hasilnya, dalam persentase, untuk debat pertama, Obama-McCain 51-31.
Debat kedua, 54-30. Debat ketiga, 58-31. Menurut CNN, perkiraan
electoral vote adalah 277 untuk Obama dan 174 untuk McCain dengan state
(negara bagian) yang tossup (bisa ke sana-ke sini) sebanyak 87.

 

Andaikata McCain menang untuk semua tossup states, dia tetap kalah. Jadi
dia harus menang di semua tossup statesseperti Florida, Ohio dan North
Carolina. Selain itu, McCain harus merebut state yang diperkirakan
mendukung Obama seperti Pennsylvania dan Virginia.

 

Sebaliknya Obama cukup mempertahankan posisi. Karena itu, McCain
agresif, Obama defensif. Ibarat pertandingan sepakbola di mana Obama di
depan 2-0 dengan sisa waktu 10 menit. McCain harus tetap bersemangat
berkampanye dan orang-orangnya harus tetap percaya diri supaya
pendukungnya tidak patah semangat dan tetap mau mengikuti pemilu.

 

Obama harus tetap bersemangat dan tidak menunjukkan rasa menang supaya
pendukungnya tetap bersemangat sampai memberikan suara pada tanggal 4
November. Kalau mereka merasa sudah menang, mungkin mereka malas memilih
karena merasa sudah pasti menang.

 

Di kita, posisinya agak terbalik.Yang di atas angin adalah pihak elite,
yang kalah adalah orang biasa. Kalau ikut rumus tadi, elite harusnya
tenang dan orang biasa bersikap galak. Tapi di sini malah elite makin
berani menjalankan kolusi dan orang biasa makin menerima.

 

Terbukti dalam kolusi Bakrie dengan SBY untuk menyelamatkan
perusahaannya yang ambruk. Dalam kasus Lapindo, Bakrie tidak mau
menunjukkan simpati kepada korban luapan lumpur. Sekarang Bakrie kena
musibah pasar, dia minta simpati SBY. Minta dibantu dengan uang negara
melalui BUMN.

 

Orang biasa yang melihat elite berkuasa merasa tidak punya jalan keluar.
Mereka merasa terpaksa menerima keserakahan penguasa. Padahal, kita
tidak harus menerima ketidakadilan. Kita bisa mengajak orang biasa
memberikan pendapat. Kalau tidak, orang baik makin sedikit dan orang
jahat makin banyak.

 

Apakah lupa munculnya Orde Baru? Tokoh angkatan 66 ikut membenarkan
Soeharto. Sekarang tokoh Reformasi 98 ikut membenarkan SBY. Dengan
menyelamatkan Bakrie, SBY kelihatan Orde Baru sejati. Tujuannya hanya
mempertahankan kekuasaan, yang dipakai untuk melindungi pengusaha yang
mendukungnya.

 

Segitiga SBY-Bakrie-Kalla menggelinding menuju Pilpres 2009. Krisis
ekonomi dunia saat ini timbul karena terlalu banyak andalan pada
kelancaran kredit. Kredit murah membuat orang berutang lebih besar dari
kemampuan membayar.

 

Ketika timbul masalah dalam pembayaran kredit, masalah itu diatasi
dengan meminjam lebih banyak lagi, gali lubang tutup lubang. Makin
banyak kita punya kenalan di bank, makin mudah meminjam uang. Kalau kita
kenal penguasa, lebih mudah lagi.

 

Meminjam menjadi sangat mudah kalau kita kenal Presiden yang tidak
jujur. Kreditor mana akan menolak kasih kredit kalau Presiden memberikan
lampu hijau? Setelah 11 September 2001, Bush menumbuhkan mesin ekonomi
dengan melancarkan kredit properti.

 

Semua berjalan mulus sampai satu saat kredit perumahan yang terlalu
lancar di Amerika Serikat menghasilkan kelebihan bangunan, harga
properti jatuh. Nasabah kredit tidak bisa bayar kredit. Bank tertimpa
kredit macet dan terpaksa minta pinjaman dari lembaga keuangan lain.
Sekuritas yang dibangun di atas jaminan kredit anjlok nilainya.

 

Perusahaan asuransi jatuh nilai asetnya. Perusahaan asuransi AIG jatuh
dan diberi bailout USD 770 miliar. Dengan cepat jepitan kredit merembes
ke Eropa dan Asia. Akhirnya kemacetan kredit internasional menimpa
perusahaan di Indonesia yang punya utang besar pada pihak asing.

 

Tidak mampu bayar kredit, takut disita jaminan berupa saham perusahaan,
akhirnya dia bersembunyi dari kenyataan pasar dan meminta pemerintah
mengatur BUMN ikut bantu. Plt Menko Perekonomian Sri Mulyani tidak
setuju, sebab ini intervensi pasar. Lebih baik Bakrie jatuh daripada
orang biasa ikut menderita.

 

Pada krisis moneter (krismon) 1997, banyak perusahaan jatuh dan
pimpinannya dituntut. Krismon 2008 menyangkut satu perusahaan dan
pimpinannya adalah pembantu terdekat Presiden. Pinjaman macet Bakrie
adalah untuk menjadi makin kaya lagi, bukan untuk kesejahteraan rakyat.

 

SBY tetap merasa berutang budi pada Bakrie dan menolak keberatan Sri
Mulyani. Beliau tidak tahu, kekuatannya dari suara rakyat, bukan dari
penguasa yang memanfaatkannya. Setelah Sri Mulyani gagal mempertahankan

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TLKM - Intraday

2008-10-21 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Biarin aja BD mak-crot sendiri... 

kalo ga ada lawan main ya cengoklah;)

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 10:06 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TLKM - Intraday

 

BD terus cari keuntungan dari kerugian trader

Akhirnya CASINO sepi

Nanti kalo udah engga ada yg maen lagi, TIBA TIBA dinaekin lagi.

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , JsxTrader [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 BD lagi nge'gambar chart., ada trx done di 7600 !!., signal candle 
jadi
 menyeramkan., jangan mau dibo'ongin !!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[obrolan-bandar] Our Brain..Pemicu Kerusakan Otak

2008-10-22 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
 

 

Otak manusia terdiri lebih dari 100 miliar syaraf yang masing-masing
terkait dengan 10 ribu syaraf lain. Bayangkan, dengan kerumitan otak
seperti itu, maka Anda wajib menyayangi otak Anda cukup dengan
menghindari kebiasaan-kebiasaan buruk yang sering disepelekan.

Otak adalah organ tubuh vital yang merupakan pusat pengendali sistem
syaraf pusat. Otak mengatur dan mengkordinir sebagian besar gerakan,
perilaku dan fungsi tubuh homeostasis seperti detak jantung, tekanan
darah, keseimbangan cairan tubuh dan suhu tubuh.

Otak juga bertanggung jawab atas fungsi seperti pengenalan, emosi.
ingatan, pembelajaran motorik dan segala bentuk pembelajaran lainnya.

Sungguh suatu tugas yang sangat rumit dan banyak. Maka, hindarilah
kebiasaan buruk di bawah jika Anda masih ingin otak Anda bekerja dengan
baik.

 http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk131/xkyokorin/brain-picture.jpg 

1. Tidak mau sarapan
Banyak orang menyepelekan sarapan, padahal tidak mengkonsumsi makanan di
pagi hari menyebabkan turunnya kadar gula dalam darah. Hal ini berakibat
pada kurangnya masukan nutrisi pada otak yang akhirnya berakhir pada
kemunduran otak.

2. Kebanyakan makan
Terlalu banyak makan mengeraskan pembuluh otak yang biasanya menuntun
kita pada menurunnya kekuatan mental.

3. Merokok
Merokok ternyata berakibat sangat mengerikan pada otak kita. Bayangkan,
otak kita bisa menyusut dan akhirnya kehilangan fungsi-fungsinya. Tak
ayal diwaktu tua kita rawan Alzheimer.

4. Terlalu banyak mengkonsumsi gula
Terlalu banyak asupan gula akan menghalangi penyerapan protein dan gizi
sehingga tubuh kekurangan nutrisi dan perkembangan otak terganggu.

5. Polusi udara
Otak adalah bagian tubuh yang paling banyak menyerap udara. Terlalu lama
berada di lingkungan dengan udara berpolusi membuat kerja otak tidak
efisien.

6. Kurang tidur
Tidur memberikan kesempatan otak untuk beristirahat. Sering melalaikan
tidur membuat sel-sel otak justru mati kelelahan.

7. Menutup kepala ketika sedang tidur
Tidur dengan kepala yang ditutupi merupakan kebiasaan buruk yang sangat
berbahaya karena karbondioksida yang diproduksi selama tidur
terkonsentrasi sehingga otak tercemar. Jangan heran kalau lama kelamaan
otak menjadi rusak.

8. Berpikir terlalu keras ketika sedang sakit
Bekerja keras atau belajar ketika kondisi tubuh sedang tidak fit juga
memperparah ketidakefektifan otak.

9. Kurangnya stimulasi otak
Berpikir adalah cara terbaik untuk melatih kerja otak. Kurang berpikir
justru membuat otak menyusut dan akhirnya tidak berfungsi maksimal.

10. Jarang bicara
Percakapan intelektual biasanya membawa efek bagus pada kerja otak

 

11. Liat BEI merah mulu.

  Akibatnya keseringan cut loss. Hehehehe...


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[obrolan-bandar] DOW Fut fall

2008-10-22 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
DOW Fut minus -107

 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] BUMN

2008-10-28 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Ati2 pak jebakan bandar... arah indeks masih dibawah serebu... 

prediksi pak oen 9XX... kalo saya mungkin bisa 7XX..

 

ditarik buat mancing retailer masuk, begitu kepancing di getok pake palu
godam Gubrakkk 

Ada udang dibalik bakwan Yummy kata Bandar...

 



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Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 4:09 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] BUMN

 

yg 'sukses' cuma ANTM, TINS itupun harga bertahan di bawah, TLKM,
PGAS, PTBA buat NEW LOW, isu buy back cuma dipake buang barang. Dari
awal saya semestinya sudah hati2, sekarang sudah agak terlambat.

salam

 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MENTAL

2008-11-04 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Rite mbah... 

ake profit dulu... ambil napas sambil pasang strategi baru...

sekalian nunggu BUMI dibuka suspendnya... biar jelas BEI mo kemana?

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 11:35 AM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MENTAL

 

- Ketika FEAR mencapai puncaknya -- BELI

- Ketika hari ini BANYAK YG rekomend BELI -- Sell On Strength
(SOS) dulu... Lihat apakah TERMINAL Wave 3 terbentuk atau tidak ?.

http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.png
http://www.obrolanbandar.com/piwihsg.png 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , tjoa_to_hing 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Embah, pak DE dan senior2 yg lain.
 
 ternyata saya gak sendiri yah!!
 mau minta tolong nih gimana mengubah mental, atau pikiran kita?
 mau buy udah takut dan agak trauma.
 pertama masuk saham febuary 2008, salah waktu nih.
 jadi nyangkut waktu index 2500an, modal yg nyangkut 60%.
 saham2 yang gue beli ternyata bukan yang top2 :(  salah lagi.
 pikirnya 40% modal mau di belanjakan, tapi takut nyangkut lagi.
 coba2 kemarin tgl 28 coba beli PGAS di 1160, karena udah terlalu
 takut gue cl di 1100. sekarang 1800, aduh rasanya kacau banget deh
 kecewa campur aduk deh.
 sekarang mau buy udah tinggi, takut pada PT.
 yang saya tanya kan gimana sih cara mengubah cara pandang kita? 
sikap
 mental? yg berhubungan dengan pemikiran?
 
 sebelumnya saya ucapkan terima kasih.
 
 
 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant
 jsx-consultant@ wrote:
 
  Kebetulan pak Alfatih muncul, embah mau minta advis tentang
  perlunya ANALIS OB yg bisa MERAKYAT. Embah baru dapet
  email yg INTInya sbb:
  
  - Saya mau ngacung bahwa saya setuju di OB ada membership.
  Saya rasa 100rb tdk berarti dibanding kalah terus sm
  bandar mbah:)
  - Terus terang saya benar2 nubie mengenai fa, ta, dll. Dan 
kebetulan
  saya masuk saham  reksadana di saat yg salah spt sekarang ini.
  - Bisa mbah bayangkan cucu mbah ini lagi bener2 apes nyangkut
  200jt...hiks
  - Kalo boleh usul mbah, nanti kalo OB udah ada analis, tolong
  dibuat mudah ya mbah, saya bener2 gaptek soal TA
  dkknyaplease :)
  
  Embah lagi engga ngomongin soal iuran, tapi soal ANALIS yg bisa
  MERAKYAT ?.
  
  Tulisan bapak ini embah perkirakan merupakan tulisan SILENT 
MAJORITY,
  kelompok yg terbanyak di OB, jarang nulis, engga terlalu ngerti
  TA atau FA. Tapi karena mereka adalah investor, merekalah 
sebenarnya
  yang MENDANAI perusahaan2 yg go public di Indonesia dan bukannya
  Trader atau tukang nyopet yang aktif nulis di OB.
  
  Dan kelompok ini, memerlukan analisa saham YG SEDERHANA dan BISA
  DIMENGERTI dalam bahasa sehari hari.
  
  Pak Alfatih, bisa engga analis saham itu bikin analisa yang mudah
  dimengerti oleh masyarakat UMUM ?. Embah tanya ama bapak, karena
  embah tahu bahwa pak Alftatih adalah seorang analis saham
  yang dijadikan tokoh di Aati dan didunia pasar modal.
  
  Thanks pak...
 


 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] To Pak Alfatih: Perlunya analis yg bisa MERAKYAT ?

2008-11-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Gimana Pak Alfatih... saya rasa banyak warga OB yang mendukung gagasan
initermasuk saya...

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of jsx_consultant
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:47 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] To Pak Alfatih: Perlunya analis yg bisa
MERAKYAT ?

 

Kebetulan pak Alfatih muncul, embah mau minta advis tentang
perlunya ANALIS OB yg bisa MERAKYAT. Embah baru dapet 
email yg INTInya sbb:

- Saya mau ngacung bahwa saya setuju di OB ada membership. 
Saya rasa 100rb tdk berarti dibanding kalah terus sm 
bandar mbah:)
- Terus terang saya benar2 nubie mengenai fa, ta, dll. Dan kebetulan
saya masuk saham  reksadana di saat yg salah spt sekarang ini. 
- Bisa mbah bayangkan cucu mbah ini lagi bener2 apes nyangkut
200jt...hiks
- Kalo boleh usul mbah, nanti kalo OB udah ada analis, tolong 
dibuat mudah ya mbah, saya bener2 gaptek soal TA
dkknyaplease :)

Embah lagi engga ngomongin soal iuran, tapi soal ANALIS yg bisa
MERAKYAT ?.

Tulisan bapak ini embah perkirakan merupakan tulisan SILENT MAJORITY,
kelompok yg terbanyak di OB, jarang nulis, engga terlalu ngerti
TA atau FA. Tapi karena mereka adalah investor, merekalah sebenarnya
yang MENDANAI perusahaan2 yg go public di Indonesia dan bukannya
Trader atau tukang nyopet yang aktif nulis di OB.

Dan kelompok ini, memerlukan analisa saham YG SEDERHANA dan BISA
DIMENGERTI dalam bahasa sehari hari. 

Pak Alfatih, bisa engga analis saham itu bikin analisa yang mudah 
dimengerti oleh masyarakat UMUM ?. Embah tanya ama bapak, karena
embah tahu bahwa pak Alftatih adalah seorang analis saham 
yang dijadikan tokoh di Aati dan didunia pasar modal.

Thanks pak...

 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MENTAL --- pak Oentoeng

2008-11-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Oye pak Oen... kita buktikan merahmu

 



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Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2008 3:25 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: MENTAL --- pak Oentoeng

 

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , jsx_consultant
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , datasahamku 
 datasahamku@ wrote:
 
  
  klo dari kacamata TA udah Golden Cross,,,jadi bakal berubah jadi
  Bullish?...
  
 
 Nanti embah VALIDASI ama Capital Flow, kalo saling menguatkan
 berarti OKE...
 
 Mudah mudahan hari ini engga ada ASING yg kabur dari 
 keramaian. 1425 target embah hari ini cukuplah...
 
 Coba kita tanya ama pak Oentoeng, matanya pak Oentoeng kan
 jeli kalo soal bear...
 
 

Santai aja Mbah...

Ntar bear warrior pasti dipanggil2 ama para trader yg ketinggalan
kereta.
Dan kami akan datang walaupun nggak dipanggil, hehehe...

Buat bull warrior...
Simple aja, pertahankan IJO-mu sampai hari Jum'at, kalau mampu?
Sebelum (maksimal) minggu depan kami akan merebut posisimu.

Fyi...buat bear warrior fans club, 
kekekek

Target 9xx kelihatannya akan MOLOR.
Tapi target SHORT TERM, mengembalikan den BEI ke target sebelumnya
yaitu 1250.

Good Luck!

 


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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR: Buy at Fibo 62% tomorrow ?

2008-11-05 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Dow fut minus euy Besok kyknya 1250 kesampaian-lah...

 



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Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2008 2:26 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: UNTR: Buy at Fibo 62% tomorrow ?

 

tinggal 5 pt lagi, besok bumi ar kiri lagi dah dibawah 1300 mbah,
kecuali market malem naik kenceng

jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

--- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
mailto:obrolan-bandar%40yahoogroups.com , natali jong
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

 Embah, jadi besok boleh beli ya?
 Ada pertimbangan yg lainnya tidak? seperti index Dow dan
regional?
 
 

Kalo market tidak mendukung, percuma belanja juga. Jadi index
tentunya sangat penting...

Jika garis coklat level 1300 JEBOL KEBAWAH dengan kuat, 
berarti prediksi pak Oentoeng akan menjadi kenyataan...

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RE: [obrolan-bandar] Harga saham BUMI terendah tiap taunnya

2008-11-18 Terurut Topik Prasetyo, Hani
Kalo nunggu di gocap (50) sampe gak ya? ngarep.com

 



From: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of hilman kamaludin
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 4:12 PM
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Harga saham BUMI terendah tiap taunnya

 

Resist pertama BUMI di area 700-800an. 
Kalo trading BUY dari 800an, kan ke 700  kalo trading buy pake DCA gak
terlalu nyakitin.  
Saya enggak bilang kalo BUMI di 800 enggak bisa turun lagi lhoo. hehehe.

 



From: Rei [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 1:20:47 PM
Subject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] Harga saham BUMI terendah tiap taunnya

Penasaran aja pak, kalo sdh 800 apa gak bisa turun lagi? Knp pake figure
800?

2008/11/18 hilman kamaludin kamaludinhilman@ yahoo.com
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Berikut harga terendah saham BUMI tiap tahunnya:

*   2007 Rp 6.000
*   2006 Rp 700
*   2005 Rp 760
*   2004 Rp 800
*   2003 Rp 500
*   2002 Rp 20
*   2001 Rp 30
*   2000 Rp 170
*   1999 Rp 275

http://www.detikfin ance.com/ read/2008/ 11/18/094547/ 1038727/6/
saham-bumi- di-bawah- rp-1000
http://www.detikfinance.com/read/2008/11/18/094547/1038727/6/saham-bumi
-di-bawah-rp-1000 
Kalau melihat data di atas, belum saatnya beli BUMI. Kalo emang minat
sama BUMI mending tunggu sampe hari Kamis- Jumat saja, sampe di angka
800an lah...

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