[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Can one run Evergreen 3.0 on an iPad?
Can one run Evergreen 3.0 on an iPad? Is the answer no since iPads don't support Java? George Tuttle Information Technology Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 706-367-9399 x1130 770-891-0654 (cell) 706-367-8032 (fax) <mailto:gtut...@prlib.org> gtut...@prlib.org image002
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Has anyone used Porteus Kiosk for their library catalog?
Has anyone used Porteus Kiosk for their library catalog? It installs quickly with an easy-to-use set up wizard. You pick your browser (Firefox or Chrome), set your homepage, set your browser idle time (when it will return to the homepage, if left idle), disable the address bar on the browser (and any other browser modifications), enable the screensaver, and voilà. George Tuttle Information Technology Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 706-367-9399 x1130 770-891-0654 (cell) 706-367-8032 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Tracking OPAC use for statistics
For the Annual Report, I have to provide a count of OPAC use within the library. Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions? What do you do at your library? Thanks, George Tuttle Information Technology Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 706-367-9399 x1130 770-891-0654 (cell) 706-367-8032 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen ahhhhh
The main problem is logistics. Getting the information from the frontline to cataloging. George Computer Services Librarian From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Mary Toma Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 3:34 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Cc: Angel Tuggle Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen ah What would be the consequences of simply deleting these records with no copies as we find them. At least that way they wouldn't annoy us a second time. Mary Toma South Central Regional Library 204-325-5864 scrlhead...@gmail.com On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 2:17 PM, George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org wrote: I received an e-mail with the subject line: Evergreen ah. It came from a library manager who was complaining about search results in the Evergreen catalog. In PINES, we have lots of empty volume records (records with no copies attached) and they tend to pop up on the top of results when one does a search. Frontline staff find this very frustrating and like to vent to me about it. Is there anything that I can do in response besides tilt my head and look sympathetic? Is there a report I could run to find these empty volume records -- or SQL command line or something? Any suggestions are greatly appreciated. Thanks. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 tel:770-867-2762%20x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org LOGOFEB2013 -- Mary Toma Head Librarian South Central Regional Library 160 Main Street Box 1540 Winkler, MB R6W 4B4 204-325-5864 image001.png
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Old On holds shelf items
The problem: holds get canceled and then, cleared from the Browse Holds Shelf, but they don't get checked in or due to a miss-scan, they stay in the status of On holds shelf. Because the hold has been cleared, there is little point in contacting the pick-up library for a shelf check. The only real option is to mark it Missing. That is pretty much it, right? Just checking. Thanks, George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org LOGOFEB2013 image002.png
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Converting large numbers of patron records to inactive
Some ILSs have the ability to periodically convert large numbers of patron records to inactive. What about Evergreen? Would it be possible to have a set of criteria like: If a patron has no items currently out, If there are no bills on the patron’s account, And if there has been no activity such as circulations, renewals, payment of bills, or logging into Evergreen for 3 or more years Then the Evergreen user (aka patron) will be automatically marked “Inactive.” Is it possible? Has anyone deployed a feature like this? Thanks, in advance. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org LOGOFEB2013 image002.png
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Titles and Authors not displaying in pull list
Hi Cheryl, I tried Simplified Pull List Interface and the darn thing keeps timing out (loading, loading, and then nothing) and I had a pull list of only two items. But thanks for pointing me in the direction where I need to focus (Simplified Pull List Interface and not the Alternate Strategy). Again, thanks. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Cheryl Middleton Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:53 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Titles and Authors not displaying in pull list Mr. Tuttle, If you print the pull list using the Simplified Pull List Interface option everything should print as you want. If the default set-up is not to your liking, right-click on the column header just to the right of the last column, from the column picker that appears you can set the Hold Pull List to display, print, and sort to your specifications. Cheryl Middleton, Manager South Asheville/Oakley Branch Library 749 Fairview Road Asheville, NC 28803 828-250-4754 cheryl.middle...@buncombecounty.org From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] on behalf of open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 11:43 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 81, Issue 20 Send Open-ils-general mailing list submissions to open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/mailman/listinfo/open-ils-general or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to open-ils-general-requ...@list.georgialibraries.org You can reach the person managing the list at open-ils-general-ow...@list.georgialibraries.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Open-ils-general digest... Today's Topics: 1. Titles and authors not displaying on Holds Pull List (George Tuttle) -- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:44:07 -0400 From: George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Titles and authors not displaying on Holds PullList To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Message-ID: 009401ce1f38$6edfe680$4c9fb380$@org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii We will be upgrading from Evergreen 2.1 to 2.3, soon, and are currently testing 2.3 on a server, looking for bugs and potential issues. One thing I noticed On Shelf Pull List -- Print Full Pull List (Alternate strategy) - 2.3 didn't display the title or author of the requested items (screenshot bellow) What would cause this? Could it be because the testing server's data isn't current but from September 2012? I am hoping this is just quirky testing server behavior and not something I have to take seriously. Any random thoughts or ideas appreciated. Thanks, George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org littleone -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/ 20130312/2278f1f6/attachment.htm -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 3404 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/ 20130312/2278f1f6/attachment.jpeg -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: image/jpeg Size: 37120 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://libmail.georgialibraries.org/pipermail/open-ils-general/attachments/ 20130312/2278f1f6/attachment-0001.jpeg End of Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 81, Issue 20 =
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Missing to Lost
Michael, Do you mean Missing to Discard/Weed? Or Checked Out (aka overdue) to Lost? Lost items are attached to a patron record and missing not George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Soulliere, Robert Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:20 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Missing to Lost Hi Michael, That should be in the notifications/actions triggers editor in the staff client. From the Staff Client: Go to Admin - Local Administration - Notifications / Action Triggers. Look for the Action Triggers with the names 42 Day Overdue Mark Lost and 42 day Overdue Lost Notice. Edit period and change names as needed. It might be a better practice to clone those triggers and adjust the new triggers as needed. Just remember to disable the 42 day mark lost triggers if you create new ones. Hope that helps. Robert Robert Soulliere, BA (Hons), MLIS Digital Systems Librarian Mohawk College Library robert.soulli...@mohawkcollege.ca Telephone: 905 575 1212 x3936 Fax: 905 575 2011 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Michael Schell [msch...@forterie.library.on.ca] Sent: November 1, 2012 9:51 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Missing to Lost Hi Everyone, How do I change the time between when a book goes missing to when it is declared lost. This seems like a simple question but I can't find where in the settings to make the change. We are on EG 2.2. Thanks, Michael Schell Systems Administrator Fort Erie Public Library 905-871-2546 x301 msch...@fepl.ca www.fepl.ca This E-mail contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the individual or entity named in the message. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the agent responsible to deliver it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is prohibited. If this communication was received in error, please notify the sender by reply E-mail immediately, and delete and destroy the original message.
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FW: [TECHTALK] evergreen macro codes
Got the following question. I think the answer is: No, at this point, having the patron privilege expiration date on the check out receipt is not possible. Is that right? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org littleone From: techtalk-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:techtalk-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 8:40 AM To: techt...@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [TECHTALK] evergreen macro codes Morning all: Anyone know of a macro code for the patron privilege expiration date that can added to the receipt? One of our biggest complaints is that they never knew cards expired, and I feel adding this would be beneficial. Thanks ahead of time. image001.jpg
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Max Fines Limit
Can someone give me a quick overview on how one configure the Max-Fine level (the maximum fine for an item)? Is it possible to cap the Max-Fine at the price of the item so overdues won't exceed the price? Thanks George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org littleone image001.jpg
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Max Fines Limit
Thanks, it got moved. As I recall, originally, the Max Fines limit was tied to the library facility and found under library location editor, or something like that. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -Original Message- From: rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net [mailto:rogan.ha...@yclibrary.net] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 3:58 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group; George Tuttle Cc: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Max Fines Limit George, If you set a max fine amount to 100 and under Is Percent to TRUE I think that will do what you want and then use that Circ Max Fine Rule. This is under Admin - Circulation Max Fine Rules. In database it's just as straight forward. Rogan Quoting George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org: Can someone give me a quick overview on how one configure the Max-Fine level (the maximum fine for an item)? Is it possible to cap the Max-Fine at the price of the item so overdues won't exceed the price? Thanks George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org littleone -- Rogan Hamby Manager Rock Hill Library Reference Services York County Library System Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog it's too dark to read. - Groucho Marx
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] FW: Evergreen Suggestion
Is there an Evergreen suggestion box? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org littleone From: Julia Simpson [mailto:jsimp...@prlib.org] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 4:01 PM To: 'George Tuttle' Subject: Evergreen Suggestion George, Can we pass along a suggestion to the Evergreen minds?? Adam is correct is suggesting that the box that comes up and says the hold was successfully placed is easily confused with hold was not successfully placed. Unless you pay close attention it is easy to think it read the hold was placed when it was not. Perhaps the programmers could make a symbol pop up or the print come up in red, just something to make it more visible that the hold was not successful. There's our two cents. Thanks! Julia Simpson Auburn Public Library Branch Manager 770-513-2925 image001.jpg
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Restore overdues and void billing not working consistently
We have noticed that Restore overdues on lost item return and Void lost item billing when returned do not work consistently. Though both are set as True (see screenshot), it only works when the lost item is returned to the Circulation Library. If it is returned to any other library in our consortium, it will work as if both are set as False, instead of True. See below. Both Mona Lisa Smile and The Silence of the Lambs have an item billing price of $21.00, processing fee of $5.00, and an overdue balance of $5.00. Mona Lisa Smile, checked-in at PIED-NIC and then PIED-WIN, did not restore the overdues or void the item billing, but The Silence of the Lambs checked-in at Circulation Library PIED-WIN, only, did. Why the inconsistent behavior? We are on Evergreen 2.1. I think I understand what is happening, but I need an official explanation. Thanks George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org image002.pngimage003.png
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Restore overdues and void billing not working consistently
I thought this. Thanks for verifying, Beth! George Computer Services Librarian From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Longwell Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 3:04 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Restore overdues and void billing not working consistently George, We are on 2.1 as well and had this issue. Setting the library setting Circ: Lost item available on checkin to True will resolve this issue. Beth System Manager Sage Library System On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 11:31 AM, George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org wrote: We have noticed that Restore overdues on lost item return and Void lost item billing when returned do not work consistently. Though both are set as True (see screenshot), it only works when the lost item is returned to the Circulation Library. If it is returned to any other library in our consortium, it will work as if both are set as False, instead of True. See below. Both Mona Lisa Smile and The Silence of the Lambs have an item billing price of $21.00, processing fee of $5.00, and an overdue balance of $5.00. Mona Lisa Smile, checked-in at PIED-NIC and then PIED-WIN, did not restore the overdues or void the item billing, but The Silence of the Lambs checked-in at Circulation Library PIED-WIN, only, did. Why the inconsistent behavior? We are on Evergreen 2.1. I think I understand what is happening, but I need an official explanation. Thanks George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 tel:770-867-2762%20x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org image001.pngimage002.png
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] When the Printer Settings Editor stops working
The problem: On some circulation computers the Printer Settings Editor in Evergreen Staff/Client works, and on others , it doesnt. In cases where it doesnt, Set Default Printer and Print Test Page responds and prints a test page to the correct printer. And the test page will follow the page settings set in the Printer Settings Editor. BUT in Check Out and Check In, it will ignore the Printer Settings Editor and receipts will print to the holds pull list, default printer and other bizarre behavior. And though one can select the printer prompt option, that can result in an unusable, 8 ½ inch receipt with a ½ inch margin. Is there a solution to this problem? Deleting the OpenILS folder, doesnt help. Playing with the Printer Property in Windows, doesnt work either Evergreen version 2.1.1 Thanks George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] When the Printer Settings Editor stops working
I'll try anything. Strange, on some computers, the Printer Settings Editor works fine. On others, not so much. Thanks for the input George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:22 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] When the Printer Settings Editor stops working Holds and transits, by default, use the Default context, not the receipt context. This is a matter of contention amongst libraries, whether or not they are receipts. The solution was to, for master/2.2, add an option to allow selecting of a printer context per template. Other consortia have, I am told, modified the client to use the receipt context for those slips. Our libraries just use the default context only for those machines that print hold or transit slips, and print other things from other workstations right now. Thomas Berezansky Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Quoting George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org: DAMN! * I deleted all prefs.js files * Deleted all OpenILS folders * Uninstalled Evergreen Staff and made sure there were no earlier versions of Evergreen * Re-booted the computer * Re-installed Evergreen Staff/Client * Went to Printer Settings Editor * Selected Receipt * Clicked on Set Default Printer and Print Test Page and set my receipt printer as Epson TM-T88V (the test page printed) * Clicked on Page Settings and set my page setup * And then I check-in a transit hold and it fails to print to the receipt printer, but prints to the printer that is used for the Holds Pull List, instead More. When I allowed it to prompt, it would prompt to the wrong printer. If I selected the Epson from the prompt, it would print an 8 1/2 inch receipt w/.5 inch margin. Click on Printing Preferences from the prompt and I saw HP LaserJet preferences, not Epson. Any thoughts? The computer I was using runs Windows XP. I will check to see if I am having this problem on any computers running Windows 7 George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 1:19 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] When the Printer Settings Editor stops working The prefs.js file lives in the user's profile directory, usually in the Roaming section...but some of the printer settings may (when using per-machine registration) may be in the staff client install directly or in the user's profile directory. Unless you wiped out all the profile (roaming and local and such) folders and the install directory you can't be certain some settings aren't kicking around still. Thomas Berezansky Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Quoting George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org: Thanks, I will test this. I don't understand why when I deleted the OpenILS folder didn't wipe out the prefs.js file. It should have, shouldn't it? I guess not. George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Berezansky Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 10:52 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] When the Printer Settings Editor stops working I assume that part of the problem is differences in what context is expected for a given receipt template. Hold and Transit *slips* use the default context, for example, while some groups expect them to use the receipt context. To reset all printing related preferences you would need to wipe out the prefs.js file or the proper lines within it (or use the about:config interface from the admin menu) to remove all set preferences that start with print., as well as remove all gPrintSettings.* files from the chrome directory (profile or install directory, as appropriate). Once things are reset you would need to re-configure your printing, obviously, but extra settings will no longer be there. Thomas Berezansky Merrimack Valley Library Consortium Quoting George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org: The problem: On some circulation computers the Printer Settings Editor in Evergreen Staff/Client works, and on others , it doesnt. In cases where it doesnt, Set Default Printer and Print Test Page responds and prints a test page to the correct printer. And the test page will follow the page settings set in the Printer Settings Editor. BUT in Check Out and Check In, it will ignore the Printer Settings Editor and receipts
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog
What about King County? They have an app for their catalog, right? How does that work? As you can see, I am a person with many questions, but few answers. George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:58 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog Hi Lori, That sounds like a hope springs eternal maybe. Has there ever been any serious discussion on an iPhone app? Thanks George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Lori Bowen Ayre Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:24 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog George, I know that was under discussion when the Google Summer of Code was happening. Some of the developers were hoping those of us involved in the IMLS grant project would sponsor another summer coder. But we ended up moving in a different direction and then the summer opportunity was lost. Maybe next summer? Lori On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:20 PM, George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org wrote: Has there been any success in the creation of an Android app for the Evergreen OPAC? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 tel:770-867-2762%20x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog
Is it copyrighted by KCLS and Sitka or is it open source? George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Grace Dunbar Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:04 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog If I recall, Sitka did most of the coding on that project with KCLS. The project page is here: http://code.google.com/p/evergreen-mobile-opac/ Grace On 11/21/11 12:56 PM, George Tuttle wrote: What about King County? They have an app for their catalog, right? How does that work? As you can see, I am a person with many questions, but few answers. George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:58 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog Hi Lori, That sounds like a hope springs eternal maybe. Has there ever been any serious discussion on an iPhone app? Thanks George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Lori Bowen Ayre Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:24 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog George, I know that was under discussion when the Google Summer of Code was happening. Some of the developers were hoping those of us involved in the IMLS grant project would sponsor another summer coder. But we ended up moving in a different direction and then the summer opportunity was lost. Maybe next summer? Lori On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:20 PM, George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org wrote: Has there been any success in the creation of an Android app for the Evergreen OPAC? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 tel:770-867-2762%20x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -- Grace Dunbar Vice President Equinox Software, Inc. gdun...@esilibrary.com 1-877-OPEN-ILS x5579 www.esilibrary.com
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog
That and this: http://www.kcls.org//usingthelibrary/gomobilewithkcls/ http://www.kcls.org/usingthelibrary/gomobilewithkcls/ . I stay up at nights dreaming about King County George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ben Shum Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:56 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog Is George referring to the Boopsie app that KCLS has? http://kcls.boopsie.com/ There's alot of mobile stuff happening over there it seems... -- Ben On 11/21/2011 01:03 PM, Grace Dunbar wrote: If I recall, Sitka did most of the coding on that project with KCLS. The project page is here: http://code.google.com/p/evergreen-mobile-opac/ Grace On 11/21/11 12:56 PM, George Tuttle wrote: What about King County? They have an app for their catalog, right? How does that work? As you can see, I am a person with many questions, but few answers. George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 2:58 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog Hi Lori, That sounds like a hope springs eternal maybe. Has there ever been any serious discussion on an iPhone app? Thanks George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Lori Bowen Ayre Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:24 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog George, I know that was under discussion when the Google Summer of Code was happening. Some of the developers were hoping those of us involved in the IMLS grant project would sponsor another summer coder. But we ended up moving in a different direction and then the summer opportunity was lost. Maybe next summer? Lori On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:20 PM, George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org wrote: Has there been any success in the creation of an Android app for the Evergreen OPAC? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 tel:770-867-2762%20x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -- Grace Dunbar Vice President Equinox Software, Inc. gdun...@esilibrary.com 1-877-OPEN-ILS x5579 www.esilibrary.com -- Benjamin Shum Open Source Software Coordinator Bibliomation, Inc. 32 Crest Road Middlebury, CT 06762 203-577-4070, ext. 113
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog
Hi Lori, That sounds like a hope springs eternal maybe. Has there ever been any serious discussion on an iPhone app? Thanks George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Lori Bowen Ayre Sent: Friday, November 18, 2011 5:24 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog George, I know that was under discussion when the Google Summer of Code was happening. Some of the developers were hoping those of us involved in the IMLS grant project would sponsor another summer coder. But we ended up moving in a different direction and then the summer opportunity was lost. Maybe next summer? Lori On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 1:20 PM, George Tuttle gtut...@prlib.org wrote: Has there been any success in the creation of an Android app for the Evergreen OPAC? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 tel:770-867-2762%20x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Android app for Evergreen library catalog
Has there been any success in the creation of an Android app for the Evergreen OPAC? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] community support policy for Evergreen releases?
Is there a process for beta testing Evergreen? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Duimovich, George Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 12:06 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] community support policy for Evergreen releases? There's going to be folks who can upgrade 'the day of release' and others with constraints that prevent those just-released upgrades from happening in a timely manner (e.g. larger consortia, academics with school term timing issues, etc.). So supporting older versions is important, but I'm for the view that we don't go too far back with that, given how important it is to keep the Evergreen train moving fast and development/support resources focussed. To make it easier and help manage the pace of upgrades, I'm always recommending to potential new users to look into negotiating vendor support agreements that come with X free upgrades - this has helped us critically from time to time. Also nice that Canadian / US holidays don't always match up, so convenient to pass the buck once in a while to help manage upgrades esp. during those lazy summer holidays. Also related to keeping up with the upgrades: 1) The patching and bug fixing seems to be fast - like lightning fast in most cases - and this seems to be getting better as there are more of us out there to test new releases, but a bit more QA somewhere in the chain could help reduce the number of minor dot (re)-releases, which in turn might reduce any upgrade fatigue for some users and/or helping better conserve upgrading resources for the major releases. 2) Re-integrating our customizations - continues to be a pain point. To be clear, this is a nice problem to have given that previous ILS didn't have this problem -- i.e. wouldn't let us customize. And there's been significant progress since we started on 1.4 (yah!), but I've often thought that our in-house upgrade checklist has a few too many little gotchas to review with each upgrade. With the experience we have now, it's no big deal but a bit annoying when other issues also come into play to burn into the upgrade process. It doesn't help that most IT units are being squeezed to do more with less, so important that we continue to make headway towards customization-happy upgrades (TT opac and other planned changes to help) and staff-client friendly auto-updates, etc. I'm not sure where the sweet spot lies with selecting time-based support periods (tough love approach) and/or more structured Long Term Support releases but I guess what we're trying to avoid here is the problem that plagues other ILS communities: namely, lots of end users running way out of date systems, then running into troubles with support and/or consuming limited resources on yesterday's problems (ultimately leading to more expensive upgrades down the road and a bad rap for rest of community). Finally, hosted options offer *some* libraries an extremely good option to resolve the keeping up-to-date problem, so I'd anticipate that long term support is not as critical as it may have in the past. George George Duimovich NRCan Library / Bibliothèque de RNCan -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jason Etheridge Sent: September 23, 2011 15:33 To: Evergreen Discussion Group; Evergreen Development Discussion List Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] community support policy for Evergreen releases? During the Community meeting in IRC today, I asked if we really want to push out 2.2 quickly, might we extend support for whatever version would be falling off the support truck? or is that a bad idea? According to the last policy we came up with, 1.6 would be deprecated as soon as 2.1 hits, and 2.0 will be deprecated as soon as 2.2 hits. There were musings about time-based support periods and Long Term Support releases, and it was decided we'd talk about such things on list. So. Discuss. :) -- Jason Etheridge | Equinox Software, Inc. / Your Library's Guide to Open Source | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: ja...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Deleting items in Evergreen and updating enteries in WorldCat
Two questions: How do libraries within an Evergreen consortium maintain their WorldCat entries as they weed and delete items from the catalog? To what extent has your library been able to automate the process? For example, this is the process for deleting weeded item in the Piedmont Regional Library System in Georgia: 1) Frontline staff scan weeded items into a copy bucket. 2) Automated services staff convert bucketed items to the pre-delete status of Discard/Weed. 3) Automated services run a weekly report on last copies within the Piedmont Regional Library System, and Cataloging updates the WorldCat entries. 4) Cataloging deletes the Discard/Weed items list in the last copy report. I know how the process can be streamlined. For us, the biggest road block in automating the process is that a large percent of ours records have non-OCLC title control numbers. We are working on that. Meanwhile, how do libraries weed delete items and manage their obligation to WorldCat? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Receipt printers
Can anyone recommend an affordable, reliable receipt printer that works well with Evergreen's circulation functions? Printers with parallel connections seem problematic -- those with serial connections are impossible. George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Receipt printers
Are there any printer specs? Tips? George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Lynn Floyd Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 9:16 AM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Receipt printers We use Star Micronics TSP100ECO. These are USB thermal printers and work great. These are totally Font/html configurable on the receipts. The only minor inconvenience is that if you send something to the printer the print Dialog box comes up, and you have to hit OK for it to actually print. There may be a fix for this but I have yet to have the time to really look in to this. I bought these when our old Star Micronics SP200's would not work with 1.6.1.4. Lynn Floyd lfl...@andersonlibrary.org Anderson County Library 864-260-4500 x181 http://www.andersonlibrary.org -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2011 8:45 AM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Receipt printers Can anyone recommend an affordable, reliable receipt printer that works well with Evergreen's circulation functions? Printers with parallel connections seem problematic -- those with serial connections are impossible. George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Triggering holds
Hi Jenny, I was thinking about chaos theory and how it might apply to Evergreen. It would be one thing if a balance of any amount would stop a patron from placing holds but another if it stop holds from triggering. In this case, a penny balance would be the butterfly effect. The scenario: patron places hold; small balance occurs; hold is suspended due to balance; patron pays small balance several months later, hold is triggered; then, when the patron picks the item and asks, why it took so long, and staff is baffled. Aren't you sorry you asked? George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System, Winder, GA _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Turner, Jennifer M Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 10:02 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Triggering holds George, Could you elaborate on your response? We have found that holds do not trigger when fine thresholds are met (v. 1.6.0.6). Users are also blocked from placing new holds. Is there a way to allow existing holds to trigger while blocking the placement of new holds? Thanks! Jenny == Jennifer Turner PALS, A Program of the Minnesota State Colleges and Universities From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2010 9:57 AM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Triggering holds On the triggering or the placing? When you place the restriction on the triggering of holds, you will get unexpected consequences. That doesn't mean you can't. Evergreen is based on the premise that the customer knows what is best and has weighed the pros and cons. George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System, Winder, GA _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Deanna Frazee Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 5:24 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Triggering holds If a patron has overdue fees, will their hold still trigger? Thanks! Deanna Frazee Killeen City Library System 205 E. Church Ave. Killeen, TX 76541 254-501-8995 dfra...@ci.killeen.tx.us
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Triggering holds
On the triggering or the placing? When you place the restriction on the triggering of holds, you will get unexpected consequences. That doesn't mean you can't. Evergreen is based on the premise that the customer knows what is best and has weighed the pros and cons. George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System, Winder, GA _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Deanna Frazee Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 5:24 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Triggering holds If a patron has overdue fees, will their hold still trigger? Thanks! Deanna Frazee Killeen City Library System 205 E. Church Ave. Killeen, TX 76541 254-501-8995 dfra...@ci.killeen.tx.us
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Receipt printer specifications
I understand in theory that, Evergreen can use any printer configured for your terminal to print receipts, but I recently tried an Epson TM-T88IV with a serial cable and though the printer tested fine in Windows, in Evergreen 1.4.0.7, it would advance a couple of lines, pause 4 seconds, and then print. Also it would not allow me to save printer settings changes in Evergreen. Is there something I should know about Evergreen and serial cables? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 54, Issue 23
How do you set the properties? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x113 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Joan Kranich Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 3:53 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 54, Issue 23 Hello, We have Star SP 200 printers (used with Windows) and use a generic text driver. Joan Joan Kranich C/W MARS Member Services jkran...@cwmars.org From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Joy Wandrey Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 12:55 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Open-ils-general Digest, Vol 54, Issue 23 does anyone know where I might find windows or linux drivers for either of these two receipt printers? Star SP 200 Citizen idp 3550 We have no receipts until/unless we get drivers for them...we have one ubunut machine and one windows 7 machine... thanks, Joy
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] circulation statistics
Hi Shasta! I would recommend a single circulation report with canned results. Your library system or consortium would set up an official monthly circulation report with the results stored on a web-server or shared space that all could access. As oppose to running a new report anytime you needed the information and taking the chance that the information would change, the library system or consortium would run it once and you the libraries within the system could access the file as many times as needed with no chance of the results changing. The January circ report would be run once and the results would be put in a can assessable to all. Sound good? George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Shasta Brewer Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2010 8:57 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] circulation statistics Lately, I reran circ stats that I had run in January. I noticed an increase in some stats which is due to renewals being counted for the month that the original circulation took place. However, I also noticed a decrease in other stats which I can only attribute to items that have been deleted from the system. (These are items which would not have their circulating location, shelving location or circ mod changed.) Has anyone else noticed this? How do you deal with your circulation stats? (We are currently on vers 1.4.06) Any input would be appreciated. Shasta P. Brewer Deputy Director York County Library 113 E. Main St., Ste 100 PO Box 10032 Rock Hill, SC 29731 803-981-5835 Fax: 803-981-5895
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] generic training serverwith predictable data
Dan, Sample data sets? In the words of Gary Coleman, What you talking about Willis? George the Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System Winder, GA .Rather than having this data sitting just on a training server RSCEL, I think it would be much more useful to have the sample data sets available as part of the Evergreen source. This would enable every Evergreen install to (optionally) have a reference set of data to work with locally. We could build documentation / training based on those sample sets of data, but also build tests on those sample sets of data to ensure that the SQL schema hasn't been broken the data can actually load, a given server is working as expected, and that a given report returns the expected results, and that a given API call generates the expected effects. This could also be a useful basis on which to build tests of the migration scripts. I do think that having an up-to-date training server always at the ready would be a valuable thing and support that goal; I just think that it's potentially more important to have a canonical set of sample data available as part of the Evergreen source.
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Overdue to lost conversion
Since I have not heard from anybody about the Evergreen feature that will auto-mark items as lost after specific overdue period, I am assuming that it has never been deployed or it has been deployed but the emotional scars were so deep that those involved would rather not talk about it. If it is extremely traumatic, we can talk about it off-list. George the Librarian _ From: George Tuttle [mailto:gtut...@prlib.org] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 2:15 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: RE: Overdue to lost conversion I have found the feature, converting overdue items to lost, listed on open-ils.org under New Back-End/Admin Features in 1.6.0.0. It is called: Auto-marking items as lost after specific overdue period. What are the characteristics of this feature or where can I find this information? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org _ From: George Tuttle [mailto:gtut...@prlib.org] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:38 AM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Overdue to lost conversion My understanding is that Evergreen 1.6 has a feature for converting long overdue items to the Lost status so that the patron is charged for the price of the item. This is a standard ILS feature. How does it function in Evergreen? Does it follow the following design: http://www.prlib.org/Blog/OverdueToLost.JPG Does it have alternative ways of handling the Lost item charge? Has the feature been deployed by any consortiums? Problems? Issues? Thanks for any info George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Overdue to lost conversion
My understanding is that Evergreen 1.6 has a feature for converting long overdue items to the Lost status so that the patron is charged for the price of the item. This is a standard ILS feature. How does it function in Evergreen? Does it follow the following design: http://www.prlib.org/Blog/OverdueToLost.JPG Does it have alternative ways of handling the Lost item charge? Has the feature been deployed by any consortiums? Problems? Issues? Thanks for any info George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] RFPs for system development
Open Source means rethinking the RFP process. What wide-scale testing have you done so far? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Kathleen O'Connor Sent: Friday, May 14, 2010 11:40 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] RFPs for system development Our director has been toying with this idea for quite some time. I was just trying to get a heads up on it when he finally decided to pull the plug on voyager Whatever you can share would be appreciated Kathleen E. O'Connor Systems Librarian Falvey Memorial Library Villanova University Villanova, Pa. 19085 kathleen.ocon...@villanova.edu 610-519-4158 From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Lori Bowen Ayre Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 11:13 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] RFPs for system development Hi Kathy, Are you planning to do development or are you looking for an RFP for services such as migrating and implementation? The KCLS software specs were for writing a LOT of new code and I'm thinking that's not really what you had in mind so wanted to clarify. I do have an RFP sample for support I could share. And another very simple one for implementation and training. Lori Ayre On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:45 AM, Kathy Lussier kluss...@masslnc.org wrote: Hi all, I'm working with the three Massachusetts consortia that are planning to move to Evergreen in 2011. We are in the latter phases of identifying our development needs for Evergreen with the plan of issuing an RFP for system development in early summer. I was wondering if anyone in the Evergreen community has an RFP they have used for system development in Evergreen or another open-source product that you would be willing to share with us. I do have a copy of King County's RFP for system support as well as the specs they posted to the http://oss4pl.org/ site. Thanks in advance for your help! Kathy Lussier - Kathy Lussier Project Coordinator Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative (508) 756-0172 (508) 755-3721 (fax) kluss...@masslnc.org IM: kmlussier (AOL Yahoo) Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/techielibrarian Twitter: http://www.twitter.com/kmlussier
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Issue with Closed Stacks and reference booksfor Reading Room and not lending
The item is circulating even though it is only circulating within the building. Treating these closed stacks reference items like a reserve collection would add a level of security and would improve the speed that these items got returned to the shelves. The downside -- the patron would no longer have the convenience of leaving reference items at the copier and on a table. They would need to return them to the service desk. Of course, this might require a policy change and might take time to implement. OR Make them circulating so they will be holdable but dont check them out to patron. Also attach an alert message: Non-circulating/Reading Room Use Only in case a staff member does attempt to check it out to a patron. Would that work? What ILS did you use previously and how did it handle this situation? George Tuttle Piedmont Regional Library System -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jason Etheridge Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 1:57 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Issue with Closed Stacks and reference booksfor Reading Room and not lending A copy item that has Circulate No (for in-house only) is Holdable but does *not* appear on the Pull List. Dead end. This is because Evergreen assumes Circulate No implies Holdable No. So: we tried Circulate Yes and then Reference is Yes - but to our surprise, such an item can be checked out. Oops. I don't think Reference has any behavior by default, though I've seen circ scripts (prior to the in-db circ that 1.6 uses) configured to stop circulation based on it. It looks like the in-db circ matrix is able to look at the item level Reference flag, so you should be able to create a rule to stop circulation based on this. Anybody an idea how to tackle this ? Correct me if I'm understanding, but you have closed stacks, which means only staff has access to them, so patrons have to make stack requests for staff to go fetch those items. Do the patrons need to know at the time of a stack request whether the item may be used in-house only or may leave the building? Why not let a checkout occur on the patron's account to show that the item is in their possession, but otherwise tell them when an item may not leave the building? -- Jason Etheridge | VP, Tactical Development | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Evergreen Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: ja...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com Please join us for the Evergreen 2010 International Conference! It is being held April 20 - 23, 2010 at the Amway Grand Hotel and Convention Center, Grand Rapids, Michigan. http://www.evergreen2010.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Issue with Closed Stacks and reference books forReading Room and not lending
I lost the thread on this discussion. So I will just jump in. It sounds like we have two issues here: 1) Is the software working as designed? 2) What is an effective way of managing a reserve (reading room only) collection? Does that sound right? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Bas Otting Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 10:04 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Issue with Closed Stacks and reference books forReading Room and not lending Hello all, At the Peace Palace Library we have Closed Stacks for all our works which are either in-house reference material or can be borrowed. Therefore: patrons or staff place a Hold, we need the Pull List for Holds Requests mechanism for accessing our Closed Stacks and we need a Circulation Policy rule that tells Evergreen that some works on the Holds Shelf can actually be borrowed and others can not and are Reading Rooms only. Here is the issue: we can't figure out how to achieve this scenario (out of the box Evergreen 1.6.0.1): we did not tinker yet with Circulation Policies or Circ Modifiers but forced behaviour in the copy editor: http://screencast.com/t/YzY1Yzk3Y2E http://screencast.com/t/YzY1Yzk3Y2E A copy item that has Circulate No (for in-house only) is Holdable but does *not* appear on the Pull List. Dead end. So: we tried Circulate Yes and then Reference is Yes - but to our surprise, such an item can be checked out. Oops. Anybody an idea how to tackle this ? We realise Evergreen has its roots in an Open Stacks environment but even then patrons might inadvertently try to check out an item marked Reference ? Really hope there is a solution combinable with a Closed Stacks situation. Kind regards, Bas Otting Peace Palace Library http://www.ppl.nl/ Carnegieplein 2 2517 KJ Den Haag
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Check out issue
Hi Jason -- When it did/does occur, it is during the busiest times of the day not the best time to be debugging. As far as I can tell, these double charges are due to latency. User charges an item, hits refresh, and charges it again. I associate the problem with the refresh button. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jason Etheridge Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 11:26 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Check out issue On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 10:57 AM, scrlhead...@mts.net wrote: Has anyone else encountered this problem? Occasionally, (and only occasionally we cannot recreate the problem) the same item is being checked out twice to the same patron and appears twice on their check-out receipt. We could live with that but heres the big problem when it is returned it has to be checked in twice to totally remove it from the patron record. ie The program does not always realize the same item has been checked out twice, thus necessitating two returns. ??? I'd be interested in seeing debug output from the console from when that happens, but beware, it's not something you'd want to share with a public mailing list or public bug tracker since it'd contain patron information. http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:debug_console http://evergreen-ils.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=scratchpad:console_clipboard -- Jason Etheridge | VP, Tactical Development | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Evergreen Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: ja...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com Please join us for the Evergreen 2010 International Conference! It is being held April 20 - 23, 2010 at the Amway Grand Hotel and Convention Center, Grand Rapids, Michigan. http://www.evergreen2010.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Check out issue
Yes by charge, I meant checkout It has been a long time since I have run across an instance of this happening and as far as I know, the problem doesn't exist in our version 1.4.0.7. Once to find instances of double checkouts, I created a report that pulled up patron checkouts where the Circ ID# was greater than the Copy ID#, and was able to compile a small list. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jason Etheridge Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 2:28 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Check out issue As far as I can tell, these double charges are due to latency. User charges an item, hits refresh, and charges it again. I associate the problem with the refresh button. Charge = checkout? Do the timestamps on the circs support that? Your mention of the Refresh button makes me think of things other than checkouts. An item should not be listed on a checkout receipt twice, which is what Mary indicated. Early on the checkout interface was rigged to not allow duplicate barcodes in a given instance (to prevent accidental double-scans), and it doesn't rely on the network for this. There could be a logic error in the code somewhere allowing it. Or, they may be printing a receipt from the Items Out interface after duplicate circs were created some other way. There have been several problems with renewals that may pertain to this: 1) Early versions of the staff client did not accommodate for replication lag between a read-only database and the master database in clustered environments. So a renewal would be made against the master database, and then the staff client would query a read-only database for the current list of circulations, only the read-only database had not yet caught up with the master, so stale data would be displayed. Staff would see this, and either a) renew the item again (possibly creating duplicate circs if the system was under extreme load, since a renewal is a new circ under the hood), or b) hit the Refresh button several times, increasing the load on the system. The fix here was to make authoritative versions of certain staff client queries, which would always get their data from the master database, and not a read-only database (which is really most needed for just search queries in the first place). However, the OPAC is not yet using these authoritative methods for the My Account section, so that's a possible avenue we should investigate (with patron renewals). 2) There was a race condition with the Renew All function in Items Out, in 1.4 and later, that was first noticed in 1.6 where the condition happened more frequently. Let's say you selected 3 circulations, and hit Renew All. If the race condition was met, then 3 renewal attempts could have been made against just one of those circulations, instead of 1 attempt for each. Not only could this deplete the renewals on the affected circulation, it could also create duplicate open circs for one item. The timestamps for these would be very close, within fractions of a second of each other. This was fixed about 7 months ago, at least from the point of view of the interface. It'd be nice if the circ service and/or database could protect itself from rogue interfaces or network sputters spamming it with multiple checkout or renew attempts against a given item, but I don't expect that to be an easy fix. :( -- Jason Etheridge | VP, Tactical Development | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Evergreen Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: ja...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com Please join us for the Evergreen 2010 International Conference! It is being held April 20 - 23, 2010 at the Amway Grand Hotel and Convention Center, Grand Rapids, Michigan. http://www.evergreen2010.org/
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Fwd: Equinox to deliver report templates
When it comes to list reports, in some cases, it can be nice to have two versions of a particular report: a ready-made version and a clone-ready version The ready-made version would be designed to fit neatly within the margins of the page and would require little thought in running. It would be targeted to specific users in specific situations The clone-ready version, on the other hand, would have plenty of display information options, and would be designed on the premise that it is better, and more fool-proof, to remove display options rather than add them. Take care and thanks for the information, George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Shae Tetterton Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 9:30 AM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Fwd: Equinox to deliver report templates Hey guys, I tried sending this message last week but it apparently did not go through. This refers back to what Amy Terlaga just posted on her blog about some canned reports Equinox has developed. March 3, 2010 Good morning everyone. I know there has been a lot of discussion via the list about canned reports for Evergreen. I have been working on a reports project to develop 35-40 canned reports that will be delivered to Equinox customers. We plan to deliver these to a few sites shortly for testing purposes and will then proceed with delivering them to existing and new customers. I am attaching a list of the proposed reports. These were based on various national and state sites I found that listed requirements for reporting statistics to the state or federal government. Once these reports are in place, you will be able to skip the template writing step and create a report based off pre-selected filters. You can, however, clone the report templates if you need to add or remove display information or edit the filters or data transforms. If you have other suggestions or questions, please let me know. I know these are not a comprehensive set of reports that each library may need but hopefully they will help you get started. Sincerely, Shae -- Shae Tetterton Project Manager Equinox Software The Evergreen Experts 1-877-OPEN-ILS s...@esilibrary.com -- Shae Tetterton Project Manager Equinox Software The Evergreen Experts 1-877-OPEN-ILS s...@esilibrary.com
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module
This leads to my next discussion point - What are the reports we all need? Here are some examples: Monthly statistics: Monthly circulation by facility, item type and/or item demographics (adult, young adult, juvenile) -- non-cat numbers included. Monthly new patron - by facility and patron demographics (adult juvenile) Holds traffic - holds sent and received by library systems Monthly In House Use by facility, item type and/or item demographics (adult, young adult, juvenile) Collection development: Dusty book (aka Weeding) Turn-over rate study (the ratio of item circulations by collection or board subject classification) Circulation counts on variety of factors (item factors: call number classification group, item type, shelving location, selected MARC categories, and item demographics and patron factors: patron city, county, zip code area, age demographics, and home library) Purchase alerts (items with a high percentage of holds). Lost and missing items for possible replacement Patron: Detailed patron demographics Survey responses Staff accounts (aka Are-these-people-still-on-staff report?) Current/ outstanding activity: Unfilled holds Items currently checked out Items currently overdue Items lost Reports for collection agencies (aka bills owed by patrons sent to collections) Basic counts Circulation activity counts: check-outs, renewals, check-ins, holds placed, holds filled Cataloging activity counts: items added, items deleted. Bibliographical lists Maintenance: Monthly missing items Monthly overdue transits Item status reports for database clean up (on a quarterly to annual basis - items in damage, in process, bindery, cataloging, ILL, on hold shelf, or any item in a temporary status for an extended period of time) Database clean up reports for catalogers Revenue reports: Daily cash drawer report Fiscal year report Uncollected debt and reports for the auditor Besides what reports are needed. Are there key fundamental differences between public and academic libraries? And consortiums and stand-alone libraries? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of scrlhead...@mts.net Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:33 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module I totally agree. I really like being able to create reports that I want but it seems silly to have to individually create reports for the basic library stats that we know we will all need. Eg. I've been trying to figure out how to create a subject bibliography report and to date have been unsuccessful. I'm fairly certain there isn't a library that doesn't do this . Mary Toma South Central Regional Library 160 Main Street Box 1540 Winkler, MB R6W 4B4 204-325-5864 204-822-4092 scrlhead...@mts.net From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Deanna Frazee Sent: March 1, 2010 1:28 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module I would like to see more canned reports for a variety of things, particularly overdues and stats. While we can create all of this ourselves, a canned report for those things that all of us do would be so helpful. Deanna Frazee Killeen City Library System (254) 501-8995 (254) 501-7704 (fax) dfra...@ci.killeen.tx.us _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:24 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module Hello, Is anyone out there? I am trying to network with other Evergreen libraries on a variety of end-user issues and would like to start by discussing Evergreen's Report Module. If changes were to be made in Reports, what changes would you like to see? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** ***SPAM*** Re: Evergreen ReportsModule
Creating is essential. But there is creating from tested templates (cloning) and then creating from scratch. It is best not to create from scratch - too many pitfalls and too time-consuming. Ideally you want to avoid it or only consider it as a last resort. Cloning has pitfalls too. Ideally you want your cloning mechanism to be somewhat locked down, with limits to the stupid choices you can make. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Karen Hutchison Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 7:41 AM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] ***SPAM*** ***SPAM*** Re: Evergreen ReportsModule Hello All, All though I am only in the research process in choosing a new ILS system [I do not currently use Evergreen, but it is a consideration], I must say that the report options are very important in the decision making process. I agree %100, that some canned reports can make the process more productive at times (especially in institutions where staff wears many hats), but the option to create individualize reports is just as important. So I guess what I am saying is the BOTH options would be a perfect world in the report writing world. Karen Karen J. Hutchison | Library Director Pennsylvania College of Art Design | 204 North Prince Street | P.O. Box 59 Lancaster, PA 17608-0059 Ph 717.396.7833 x1021 | 717.396.1339 | khutchi...@pcad.edu | www.pcad.edu/Library/index.html Confidential Material: This message is intended for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is privileged, confidential, and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If received in error, please notify the sender by return email and destroy all copies of the original transmission and any attachments. Thank You. If you wish to view information about Pennsylvania College of Art and Design, please visit out website at www.pcad.edu - Deanna Frazee dfra...@ci.killeen.tx.us wrote: | | George, You are right on track, at least IMO. Sometimes a nice canned report that you just tell to run is perfect. Other times, you need to be able to select some of the elements. Deanna Frazee Killeen City Library System (254) 501-8995 (254) 501-7704 (fax) dfra...@ci.killeen.tx.us | | _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle | Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:14 PM | To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' | Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module Hi Deanna! I have two concepts of a canned report. One is any pre-defined report with static elements and a fixed structure. The static elements could include a pick list of commonly used filters and display categories. These reports are tested and proven and next to impossible to screw up. The other concept is a pre-scheduled report where the end-user merely accesses the data, like the circulation reports for individual months. In this type of report, the results are canned and can't be altered. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org | _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Deanna Frazee | Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:28 PM | To: Evergreen Discussion Group | Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module I would like to see more canned reports for a variety of things, particularly overdues and stats. While we can create all of this ourselves, a canned report for those things that all of us do would be so helpful. Deanna Frazee Killeen City Library System (254) 501-8995 (254) 501-7704 (fax) dfra...@ci.killeen.tx.us | _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle | Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 1:24 PM | To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org | Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module Hello, Is anyone out there? I am trying to network with other Evergreen libraries on a variety of end-user issues and would like to start by discussing Evergreen's Report Module. If changes were to be made in Reports, what changes would you like to see? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org
[OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module
Hello, Is anyone out there? I am trying to network with other Evergreen libraries on a variety of end-user issues and would like to start by discussing Evergreen's Report Module. If changes were to be made in Reports, what changes would you like to see? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module
No, you are right. And sometimes the changes are quite small like an e-mail address. George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org _ From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Ceil Smith Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:56 PM To: 'Evergreen Discussion Group' Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module George, I'd really like to be able to edit reports without having to create a clone. I'd also like to be able to go back and see the settings I entered when I scheduled a report (the exact date ranges, circ modifiers, etc.) that I entered when I scheduled a report-yes, I know I can put that in the description field, but I always forget! - Ceil Smith Technology and Training Services Coordinator Three Rivers Regional Library System 208 Gloucester St. Brunswick, GA 31520 912-580-4328 x2538 912-267-9597 fax From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of George Tuttle Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:24 PM To: open-ils-general@list.georgialibraries.org Subject: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module Hello, Is anyone out there? I am trying to network with other Evergreen libraries on a variety of end-user issues and would like to start by discussing Evergreen's Report Module. If changes were to be made in Reports, what changes would you like to see? George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) mailto:gtut...@prlib.org gtut...@prlib.org
Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module
A repository of reports sounds good as long as it didn't end up a dumping ground of good templates mixed with bad, especially those bad templates that look good. Testing reports and documenting their accuracy is highly time-consuming. I hate creating new reports because the next thing I have to do is create a 2nd report to verify the accuracy of the 1st report. And speaking of populating copy buckets -- though I can import notepad files of barcodes into Evergreen, files larger than a 100 barcodes tend to result in white screening and Staff/Client slows to a crawl. We need a status conversion interface so we could set when missing items get converted to discard/weed and set schedules when certain statuses get converted automatically. Missing and Overdue Transits, especially. But old In Process and Damaged items too George Tuttle Computer Services Librarian Piedmont Regional Library System 770-867-2762 x103 770-891-0654 (cell) 770-867-7483 (fax) gtut...@prlib.org -Original Message- From: open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org [mailto:open-ils-general-boun...@list.georgialibraries.org] On Behalf Of Jason Etheridge Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 2:38 PM To: Evergreen Discussion Group Subject: Re: [OPEN-ILS-GENERAL] Evergreen Reports Module If changes were to be made in Reports, what changes would you like to see? First, I'd like to see a UI for exporting/importing report templates across Evergreen installations (and have it catch whether a report depends on a reporter extension which may not exist in the importing installation). Later, it may even be desirable to have the UI tap directly into a community repository of such reports. I'd also like to see reports be able to directly populate copy and/or record buckets (going in the other direction is possible now, but could probably be made easier). I'd like to be able to configure a run-time limit for reports (for example, if a report runs for over an hour, automatically kill it). -- Jason Etheridge | VP, Tactical Development | Equinox Software, Inc. / The Evergreen Experts | phone: 1-877-OPEN-ILS (673-6457) | email: ja...@esilibrary.com | web: http://www.esilibrary.com Please join us for the Evergreen 2010 International Conference! It is being held April 20 - 23, 2010 at the Amway Grand Hotel and Convention Center, Grand Rapids, Michigan. http://www.evergreen2010.org/
