MIE-2008

2008-05-30 Thread Andrew Patterson
 MIE 2008 page to the openEHR website, in which we post papers and
 presentations of sessions relating to openEHR. I am not sre at all of
 what this list is, so if there are people on this list who could point
 out authors  presentations it would be helpful.

Actually, is it possible to have a conferences page on the wiki
that is a bit of a one-stop shop for documenting openEHR related
contributions to conferences. Somewhere where authors could
attach their presentations from last years Medinfo, the MIE 2008 etc
- and maybe also lists of future conferences of interest to
openEHR folks.

I know I can create pages myself on the wiki but I'm still a bit unsure
where things are supposed to go in the wiki tree.

Andrew



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2008-05-30 Thread Lisa Thurston
Andrew Patterson wrote:
 Actually, is it possible to have a conferences page on the wiki
 that is a bit of a one-stop shop for documenting openEHR related
 contributions to conferences. Somewhere where authors could
 attach their presentations from last years Medinfo, the MIE 2008 etc
 - and maybe also lists of future conferences of interest to
 openEHR folks.

 I know I can create pages myself on the wiki but I'm still a bit unsure
 where things are supposed to go in the wiki tree.
   
Andrew, I think this is a really good idea. A link from the homepage or 
static part of the website into a place on the wiki where users can 
upload papers and continue the discussion has potential as both a 
reference and a way to provide feedback and/or engage in discussion on 
each paper in one location.

Lisa
 Andrew
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2008-05-30 Thread Thomas Beale
Lisa Thurston wrote:
 Andrew Patterson wrote:
   
 Actually, is it possible to have a conferences page on the wiki
 that is a bit of a one-stop shop for documenting openEHR related
 contributions to conferences. Somewhere where authors could
 attach their presentations from last years Medinfo, the MIE 2008 etc
 - and maybe also lists of future conferences of interest to
 openEHR folks.

 I know I can create pages myself on the wiki but I'm still a bit unsure
 where things are supposed to go in the wiki tree.
   
 
 Andrew, I think this is a really good idea. A link from the homepage or 
 static part of the website into a place on the wiki where users can 
 upload papers and continue the discussion has potential as both a 
 reference and a way to provide feedback and/or engage in discussion on 
 each paper in one location.

   
*I am fine with that - I don't think we had the wiki running when we did 
the MedInfo pages. Probably we should move that to the wiki as well and 
make a small web page. How do others feel about this. Note, if we go 
this way, I am likely to leav it up to conference paper-writers to put 
their own entries up in the relevant pages!

Can we have reactions from a few more people - if the response is 
positive, I will organise the conference material onto the wiki.

- thomas beale

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2008-05-30 Thread Rong Chen
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Thomas Beale 
thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote:

 Lisa Thurston wrote:
  Andrew Patterson wrote:
 
  Actually, is it possible to have a conferences page on the wiki
  that is a bit of a one-stop shop for documenting openEHR related
  contributions to conferences. Somewhere where authors could
  attach their presentations from last years Medinfo, the MIE 2008 etc
  - and maybe also lists of future conferences of interest to
  openEHR folks.
 
  I know I can create pages myself on the wiki but I'm still a bit unsure
  where things are supposed to go in the wiki tree.
 
 
  Andrew, I think this is a really good idea. A link from the homepage or
  static part of the website into a place on the wiki where users can
  upload papers and continue the discussion has potential as both a
  reference and a way to provide feedback and/or engage in discussion on
  each paper in one location.
 
 
 *I am fine with that - I don't think we had the wiki running when we did
 the MedInfo pages. Probably we should move that to the wiki as well and
 make a small web page. How do others feel about this. Note, if we go
 this way, I am likely to leav it up to conference paper-writers to put
 their own entries up in the relevant pages!

 Can we have reactions from a few more people - if the response is
 positive, I will organise the conference material onto the wiki.


It sounds like a good idea to me. Is there any limit on the type/size of
file that can be uploaded to the wiki page?

Cheers,
Rong





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2008-05-30 Thread Thilo Schuler
I like the wiki idea. We need to start using the wiki more. If
everybody (in this case the authors) contributes, we will have more
and better content and Thomas can concentrate on other important
things.

Cheers, Thilo

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Thomas Beale
thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote:
 Lisa Thurston wrote:
 Andrew Patterson wrote:

 Actually, is it possible to have a conferences page on the wiki
 that is a bit of a one-stop shop for documenting openEHR related
 contributions to conferences. Somewhere where authors could
 attach their presentations from last years Medinfo, the MIE 2008 etc
 - and maybe also lists of future conferences of interest to
 openEHR folks.

 I know I can create pages myself on the wiki but I'm still a bit unsure
 where things are supposed to go in the wiki tree.


 Andrew, I think this is a really good idea. A link from the homepage or
 static part of the website into a place on the wiki where users can
 upload papers and continue the discussion has potential as both a
 reference and a way to provide feedback and/or engage in discussion on
 each paper in one location.


 *I am fine with that - I don't think we had the wiki running when we did
 the MedInfo pages. Probably we should move that to the wiki as well and
 make a small web page. How do others feel about this. Note, if we go
 this way, I am likely to leav it up to conference paper-writers to put
 their own entries up in the relevant pages!

 Can we have reactions from a few more people - if the response is
 positive, I will organise the conference material onto the wiki.

 - thomas beale

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2008-05-30 Thread Sam Heard
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2008-05-30 Thread Stef Verlinden
Hi all,

Here's my positive reaction:-).

We started some discussion around this topic back in November. One of  
the other items we discussed then was a place for 'openEHR'  
presentations that could be used by others under a common creative  
(or other) license. Although I can find several presentations under  
'recently updated' I would expect those to be found under education.  
This might also be the place for the pages about the past, future and  
eventually the openEHR exclusive conference. Also this could be a  
place for all publications available. I know that publications can be  
reached directly form the home page under resources, but I think  
these should (also) be present in the Wiki section. The link directly  
under resources only reveals the 3 theses about workflow. There is  
another link under resources/ getting started and then under 'I want  
to - see the publication pages' (where probably the other  
publications could be found) but this link is dead. Having all this  
together under the educationsection in Wiki might provide an easier  
entrance for those who wants to be educated about openEHR.

Cheers,

Stef


Op 30-mei-2008, om 11:48 heeft Thomas Beale het volgende geschreven:

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2008-05-30 Thread Thomas Beale

I have created a new wiki space called 'resource', and a root page 
'conferences' beneath it. I have also created more or less a copy of the 
MedInfo 2007 page in the wiki. See 
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/Conferences . On a whim, I 
chose a left-menu navigation style, just to see if we would like it 
better. I should be able to change it back if we don't like it.

One thing to note: in the MedInfo 2007 page, all the links point back to 
the openEHR.org website, whereas in future conference webpages, we will 
usually upload attachments. The problem we have to tackle is that 
conferences is only one way to view material; after a while you want a 
proper index of the papers etc, and you no longer care that much about 
what conference they came from. I addressed this on the openEHR website 
with a 'publications' set of pages (currently workflow, Health ICT and 
archetypes). The conference-independent view of things is obviously teh 
more long term one. Would anyone like to propose how we do this on the 
wiki? Clearly an agreed discipline is needed, e.g. we might say that you 
have to upload to a page for papers, and then put an entry in the 
conference page that just points to that.

thoughts?

- thomas beale





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2008-05-30 Thread williamtfgoos...@cs.com
In a message dated 30-5-2008 12:38:35 W. Europe Daylight Time, 
sam.heard at oceaninformatics.com writes: 

 If something is state of the art today then I believe it should be using a 
 non-proprietary health record and contributing to this development! :-) 
 
 Cheers, Sam


And non proprietary health record content specification in the two level 
modelling approach. :-) 

Sincerely yours,

dr. William TF Goossen
director 
Results 4 Care b.v.
De Stinse 15
3823 VM Amersfoort
email: Results4Care at cs.com
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fax +3133 2570169
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2008-05-30 Thread Päria Kashfi
Hi all,
As you may find in my signature, I'm a PhD student at Chalmers  
University of Technology, Sweden.
The idea of having a conference related wiki page would be great for  
me, but not in entering related papers yet!
MIE2008 was an amazing opportunity for me to get more familiar with  
openEHR and I've just starting investigating it for our projects.
As a part of Pragmatic Pattern project, I'll design and develop an  
Evidence Based Clinicla Decision Support System
You may find more information about our projects here:

http://www.cs.chalmers.se/proj/medview/website/medview/omMedView.html
http://www.his.se/templates/vanligwebbsida1.aspx?id=29549

I hope discussing issues on this mailing list, or getting access to  
resources in the Wiki will help me find the best way of utilizing this  
standard.
Finally, It was so nice to meet you- Rong,Beatriz,Ian and Heather - in  
MIE2008 :)

Regards
paria






On May 30, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Thomas Beale wrote:

 Lisa Thurston wrote:
 Andrew Patterson wrote:

 Actually, is it possible to have a conferences page on the wiki
 that is a bit of a one-stop shop for documenting openEHR related
 contributions to conferences. Somewhere where authors could
 attach their presentations from last years Medinfo, the MIE 2008 etc
 - and maybe also lists of future conferences of interest to
 openEHR folks.

 I know I can create pages myself on the wiki but I'm still a bit  
 unsure
 where things are supposed to go in the wiki tree.


 Andrew, I think this is a really good idea. A link from the  
 homepage or
 static part of the website into a place on the wiki where users can
 upload papers and continue the discussion has potential as both a
 reference and a way to provide feedback and/or engage in discussion  
 on
 each paper in one location.


 *I am fine with that - I don't think we had the wiki running when we  
 did
 the MedInfo pages. Probably we should move that to the wiki as well  
 and
 make a small web page. How do others feel about this. Note, if we go
 this way, I am likely to leav it up to conference paper-writers to put
 their own entries up in the relevant pages!

 Can we have reactions from a few more people - if the response is
 positive, I will organise the conference material onto the wiki.

 - thomas beale

 *

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maintaining openEHR's online UML diagrams

2008-05-30 Thread Thomas Beale

Dear all,

most of you would be familiar with the online UML diagrams of the 
reference model - at 
http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TAGS/Release-1.0.1/publishing/architecture/computable/UML/uml_start_view.html

David Lloyd started building these some 2 years or more ago using the 
MagicDraw tool, which appeared to be one of the better tools on the 
market. The current version of the model is in MagicDraw 9.5 and can be 
found at
http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/architecture/computable/UML/MagicDraw/
 
David also had to (at my request) hack the publishing part of MagicDraw 
to make it publish the tabular form of classes in a vaguely sensible 
format - and these scripts will no longer work with later vresions of 
MagicDraw. This tool is also of course a paying tool.

The MagicDraw tool has changed fairly radically in later versions and it 
would be quite some work to upgrade the current expression of the model 
to the latest version. Possibly we should consider other tools or 
approaches to having online UML. Personally I have found every UML tool 
I have tried lacking, and don't use them in any serious production sense 
- I believe they are mainly useful for generating diagrams for 
communication purposes like we do in openEHR rather than actually using 
them in software building - thus from my point of view, the main 
requirement here is an HTML tree that we can publish.

We will need to be able to continue to update the UML HTML since 
modifications will be made to the reference model in coming releases. 
Are there suggestions on how to do this? Are there offers from someone 
in the community who could actually do it?

- thomas beale





MIE-2008

2008-05-30 Thread Tim Cook

On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 12:03 +0100, Thomas Beale wrote:

 One thing to note: in the MedInfo 2007 page, all the links point back to 
 the openEHR.org website, whereas in future conference webpages, we will 
 usually upload attachments. The problem we have to tackle is that 
 conferences is only one way to view material; after a while you want a 
 proper index of the papers etc, and you no longer care that much about 
 what conference they came from. I addressed this on the openEHR website 
 with a 'publications' set of pages (currently workflow, Health ICT and 
 archetypes). The conference-independent view of things is obviously teh 
 more long term one. Would anyone like to propose how we do this on the 
 wiki? Clearly an agreed discipline is needed, 

Create a set of keywords (called Labels on this tool) and then ask
everyone to use them as they apply to each entry.

--Tim


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2008-05-30 Thread Mikael Nyström
It is a good idea. You can probably count all of us at Link?ping University
in.

 

/Micke


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From: openehr-technical-boun...@openehr.org
[mailto:openehr-technical-bounces at openehr.org] On Behalf Of Sam Heard
Sent: den 30 maj 2008 16:20
To: For openEHR technical discussions
Cc: Barretto, Sistine
Subject: Re: MIE-2008


I wonder if we should have a particular list for people who are interested
in working with openEHR from a decision support point of view. This may not
be appropriate just yet but I believe it will generate a considerably
different intellectual space. I wonder what others think?
Sam

P?ria Kashfi wrote: 

Hi all,

As you may find in my signature, I'm a PhD student at Chalmers  

University of Technology, Sweden.

The idea of having a conference related wiki page would be great for  

me, but not in entering related papers yet!

MIE2008 was an amazing opportunity for me to get more familiar with  

openEHR and I've just starting investigating it for our projects.

As a part of Pragmatic Pattern project, I'll design and develop an  

Evidence Based Clinicla Decision Support System

You may find more information about our projects here:



http://www.cs.chalmers.se/proj/medview/website/medview/omMedView.html

http://www.his.se/templates/vanligwebbsida1.aspx?id=29549



I hope discussing issues on this mailing list, or getting access to  

resources in the Wiki will help me find the best way of utilizing this  

standard.

Finally, It was so nice to meet you- Rong,Beatriz,Ian and Heather - in  

MIE2008 :)



Regards

paria













On May 30, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Thomas Beale wrote:



  

Lisa Thurston wrote:



Andrew Patterson wrote:



  

Actually, is it possible to have a conferences page on the wiki

that is a bit of a one-stop shop for documenting openEHR related

contributions to conferences. Somewhere where authors could

attach their presentations from last years Medinfo, the MIE 2008 etc

- and maybe also lists of future conferences of interest to

openEHR folks.



I know I can create pages myself on the wiki but I'm still a bit  

unsure

where things are supposed to go in the wiki tree.







Andrew, I think this is a really good idea. A link from the  

homepage or

static part of the website into a place on the wiki where users can

upload papers and continue the discussion has potential as both a

reference and a way to provide feedback and/or engage in discussion  

on

each paper in one location.





  

*I am fine with that - I don't think we had the wiki running when we  

did

the MedInfo pages. Probably we should move that to the wiki as well  

and

make a small web page. How do others feel about this. Note, if we go

this way, I am likely to leav it up to conference paper-writers to put

their own entries up in the relevant pages!



Can we have reactions from a few more people - if the response is

positive, I will organise the conference material onto the wiki.



- thomas beale



*



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maintaining openEHR's online UML diagrams

2008-05-30 Thread Erik Sundvall
Hi!

I have started an experiment working with openEHR UML using
Eclipse-based tools, see:
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/dev/Experimental+generation+of+code+and+documentation+from+UML
The initial driving force for the experiment was creating a custom UML
diagram for our MIE2008 openEHR tutorial. Some recent corrections etc.
are not uploaded yet, but I'll try to do that on Monday.

Soon the next version of Eclipse will be official, and if I understand
things correctly there will be improved support for generics in the
UML2-related tools then. Let's have a serious look at tooling after
that release.

Best regards,
Erik Sundvall
erisu at imt.liu.se http://www.imt.liu.se/~erisu/ Tel: +46-13-227579

On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 1:12 PM, Thomas Beale
thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote:

 Dear all,

 most of you would be familiar with the online UML diagrams of the
 reference model - at
 http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TAGS/Release-1.0.1/publishing/architecture/computable/UML/uml_start_view.html

 David Lloyd started building these some 2 years or more ago using the
 MagicDraw tool, which appeared to be one of the better tools on the
 market. The current version of the model is in MagicDraw 9.5 and can be
 found at
 http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/architecture/computable/UML/MagicDraw/
 David also had to (at my request) hack the publishing part of MagicDraw
 to make it publish the tabular form of classes in a vaguely sensible
 format - and these scripts will no longer work with later vresions of
 MagicDraw. This tool is also of course a paying tool.

 The MagicDraw tool has changed fairly radically in later versions and it
 would be quite some work to upgrade the current expression of the model
 to the latest version. Possibly we should consider other tools or
 approaches to having online UML. Personally I have found every UML tool
 I have tried lacking, and don't use them in any serious production sense
 - I believe they are mainly useful for generating diagrams for
 communication purposes like we do in openEHR rather than actually using
 them in software building - thus from my point of view, the main
 requirement here is an HTML tree that we can publish.

 We will need to be able to continue to update the UML HTML since
 modifications will be made to the reference model in coming releases.
 Are there suggestions on how to do this? Are there offers from someone
 in the community who could actually do it?

 - thomas beale



ANN:openEHR Python Implementation

2008-05-30 Thread Tim Cook
Hello All,

I am happy to announce that the Python implementation source code is
available on the openEHR SVN server.

There is a wiki page at: http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/dev/Python
+developer%27s+page where you will find installation and usage
instructions.  Some of the instructions are a bit tedious and certainly
not as smooth as they can be.  Much of these I plan to automate in the
near future but I would appreciate feedback on how well they work at
this point.  

There is a discussion list on Sourceforge for OSHIP development but you
can feel free to email me directly if you do not want to join that at
this time. http://sourceforge.net/mail/?group_id=152993 

There will be an announcement published on Linux Medical News
http://www.linuxmednews.com/index_html shortly that contains more
background and resource information.

This is alpha level code at this point.  However, if you have the
inclination to help out.  It would be great to hear about user
experiences with the install and initialization procedures.

Thanks,
--Tim
 

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2008-05-30 Thread Paria Kashfi
sounds great!
we are at least 3 persons interested in this issue in Chalmers and  
Sk?vde

paria

On May 30, 2008, at 4:19 PM, Sam Heard wrote:

 I wonder if we should have a particular list for people who are  
 interested in working with openEHR from a decision support point of  
 view. This may not be appropriate just yet but I believe it will  
 generate a considerably different intellectual space. I wonder what  
 others think?
 Sam

 P?ria Kashfi wrote:

 Hi all,
 As you may find in my signature, I'm a PhD student at Chalmers
 University of Technology, Sweden.
 The idea of having a conference related wiki page would be great for
 me, but not in entering related papers yet!
 MIE2008 was an amazing opportunity for me to get more familiar with
 openEHR and I've just starting investigating it for our projects.
 As a part of Pragmatic Pattern project, I'll design and develop an
 Evidence Based Clinicla Decision Support System
 You may find more information about our projects here:

 http://www.cs.chalmers.se/proj/medview/website/medview/omMedView.html
 http://www.his.se/templates/vanligwebbsida1.aspx?id=29549

 I hope discussing issues on this mailing list, or getting access to
 resources in the Wiki will help me find the best way of utilizing  
 this
 standard.
 Finally, It was so nice to meet you- Rong,Beatriz,Ian and Heather -  
 in
 MIE2008 :)

 Regards
 paria






 On May 30, 2008, at 11:48 AM, Thomas Beale wrote:


 Lisa Thurston wrote:

 Andrew Patterson wrote:


 Actually, is it possible to have a conferences page on the wiki
 that is a bit of a one-stop shop for documenting openEHR related
 contributions to conferences. Somewhere where authors could
 attach their presentations from last years Medinfo, the MIE 2008  
 etc
 - and maybe also lists of future conferences of interest to
 openEHR folks.

 I know I can create pages myself on the wiki but I'm still a bit
 unsure
 where things are supposed to go in the wiki tree.



 Andrew, I think this is a really good idea. A link from the
 homepage or
 static part of the website into a place on the wiki where users can
 upload papers and continue the discussion has potential as both a
 reference and a way to provide feedback and/or engage in discussion
 on
 each paper in one location.



 *I am fine with that - I don't think we had the wiki running when we
 did
 the MedInfo pages. Probably we should move that to the wiki as well
 and
 make a small web page. How do others feel about this. Note, if we go
 this way, I am likely to leav it up to conference paper-writers to  
 put
 their own entries up in the relevant pages!

 Can we have reactions from a few more people - if the response is
 positive, I will organise the conference material onto the wiki.

 - thomas beale

 *

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Decision Support was: MIE-2008

2008-05-30 Thread Tim Cook

On Fri, 2008-05-30 at 15:19 +0100, Sam Heard wrote:
 I wonder if we should have a particular list for people who are interested in 
 working with openEHR from a decision support point of view. 
 This may not be appropriate just yet but I believe it will generate a 
 considerably different intellectual space. I wonder what others think?

I am certainly interested.  It is the core of my interest semantic
information management in healthcare and my primary driver for being
involved in the EGADSS project http://egadss.sourceforge.net/ 
Though I was out voted by HL7v3 and Arden Syntax MLM proponents so I
left the project.  

 

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maintaining openEHR's online UML diagrams

2008-05-30 Thread Thomas Beale
Erik Sundvall wrote:
 Hi!

 I have started an experiment working with openEHR UML using
 Eclipse-based tools, see:
 http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/dev/Experimental+generation+of+code+and+documentation+from+UML
 The initial driving force for the experiment was creating a custom UML
 diagram for our MIE2008 openEHR tutorial. Some recent corrections etc.
 are not uploaded yet, but I'll try to do that on Monday.

 Soon the next version of Eclipse will be official, and if I understand
 things correctly there will be improved support for generics in the
 UML2-related tools then. Let's have a serious look at tooling after
 that release.
   
thanks Erik,
that's a good start. Now, of course the problem is that whatever the 
next tool we choose, we need to get the current model into it. We can 
generate XML 1.3 I think it is from MagicDraw, but no better. Some 
manual work will be needed.

- thomas