Re: Digestive Martinis

2001-06-12 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 13:39, Koivu, Lisa wrote:
> Bombay Sapphire, splash of olive juice and a few green olives.
>
> MM
> Does the job REAL fast.

Ah, a kindred spirit at last. 

Jared

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high parses plus buffer holder

2001-06-12 Thread Sairlao, Chark

hi all,

I got this application , they are not using any packages ,triggers or
procedure. And there are lots of statements number of parsing = number of
execute. Is there any way you can pinned the sql statsments into sga, beside
increasing the sga size.

buffer holder.

I ran this statements

select decode(state,0, 'FREE',
1,decode(lrba_seq,0,'AVAILABLE','BEING USED'),
3, 'BEING USED', state) "BLOCK STATUS",
count(*)
from x$bh
group by decode(state,0,'FREE',1,decode(lrba_seq,0,'AVAILABLE',
'BEING USED'),3, 'BEING USED', state)

and got the following result. 

BLOCK STATUSCOUNT(*)
--
AVAILABLE5889
BEING USED   299
FREE 13012

Just for the purpose of testing it, I alter a table which has about 500
blocks to be cached and select * from that table.
execute the above statements againg I got the same result. Where I expected
to have 500 blocks lesser in free block.  What have  done wrong here?

Thanks And Regards
Chark Sairlao

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Re: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 15:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> It's just that some are better than others :-)
> and of them all, I have to agree with Jared, 16yr old Lagavullin is the
> best.

Hear hear!

> If you don't like it too peaty , try Jura or Oban - I prefer them slightly
> peatier.


I *like* the peaty.

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Re: check file size, extension question???

2001-06-12 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 17:38, Christopher Spence wrote:
> I will beat Jared to this, What about using Perl?

How about:

-
#!/usr/bin/perl
 
$filename=shift;
$size = (stat($filename))[7];
 
print "File in Bytes : $size\n";
printf("File in MBytes: %5.2f\n", $size/=2**20);
---

call if filesize and use like this:

  filesize 

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extracting selective information

2001-06-12 Thread K. JOTHISH

Hi All,
   We are developing a kind of reporting tool which wud connect to another
database and present the data from that database in a format so that it is
easily analysable for the end-user.
   Now the intented approach is to have a database for the reporting
module and to periodically refresh only the recent modifications from that
database.Now one solution to that was to create snapshots and refresh
periodically but then , this is possible only if both these databases are
oracle.How can we do this if say we have to do it from any other
database like SQL Server into a oracle database.
TIA,
Jothish

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OT: Perl module question

2001-06-12 Thread Nguyen, Long (ITS, Limestone Ave)

Hi,

I am installing a request tracking software (WREQ) which requires Perl 5 with GDBM 
support. I could not find GDBM_File.pm under /usr/local on my Solaris 2.6 machine. The 
command 
perl -e 'use GDBM_File;' 
gave the message:
   Can't locate GDBM_File in @INC (@INC contains )

Questions:
1) Do you know if a standard perl installation should contain GDBM_File module?
   If yes then I will try to re-install the Perl software.

2) I also downloaded Gnu gdbm and installed it on the machine. It seems to install a 
number of .so and .a files in /usr/local/lib (but I could not find GDBM_File.pm 
anywhere). Do I need to link the software into Perl somehow so GDBM_File.pm
module is created in the Perl library?

Thanks
Long
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Re: Primary keys, Surrogate keys and SSN

2001-06-12 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 13:19, Jared Still wrote:

> The only real downfall of surrogate keys is that it may require a developer
> to do a join on the FK to the parent table to get the unique key
> information.

Well, there are other downfalls on a system with a high transaction rate,
but there are ways to deal with them.

Jonatha Lewis' book 'Practical Oracle 8i' has several suggestions.

Jared
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Re: OT: Pin a CPU in Solaris

2001-06-12 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 10:40, Erik Williams wrote:
> Does anyone know how to pin a Solaris CPU at a high utilization? I am doing
> some testing and want to evaluate a system under a high CPU load. Thanks.
>
> Erik

The philosophical context of this excercise is already well covered,
so I just had some fun making a Perl script to do it.

Run it in a loop, add a loop to the script, run as many of these
as you want.

Fire up 50 of these babies simultaneously and bring your system
administrator to his knees, along with your systems.

Change the factorial from 2,000,000 to 200,000,000 for extra
special effects.  ;)

You're welcome.  :)

Jared


#!/usr/bin/perl -w

print factorial([1..200]), "\n";


sub factorial {
$refArray2Factor = shift;
clear();
my $factored=0;
my $arrayMax = @$refArray2Factor;

for ( my $i=0; $i<$arrayMax; $i++ ) {
$factored = _factorial(${$refArray2Factor}[$i]);
}

return $factored;
}

{

my $factorial;

sub _factorial {

my $factor = shift;
$factorial = 1 unless defined $factorial;
$factorial *= $factor;
return $factorial;
}

sub clear { undef $factorial }

}

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ora - 900 error while using copy command in a stored procedure

2001-06-12 Thread Ranganath K

Hi DBA Gurus,

Is it possible to use the copy command in a stored procedure?  I am trying
to use the copy command to copy one of the table data from user A to user B
in the same database in a stored procedure with source database, username
and password and destination database, username and password being used as
input parameters.  But I am getting ora - 900 error - invalid sql statement
error.  Any ideas?

Here is my code:

create or replace procedure copy_proc as
sql1 varchar2(2000);
begin
sql1:= 'copy from primal/primal@primal to jstage2/jstage2@primal append
carrier using select * from carrier';
execute immediate sql1;
end;

Any help in this regard will be very much appreciated.

TIA and Regards,

Ranganath


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Oracle 817 is the fastest database on IBM's fastest server

2001-06-12 Thread Suhen Pather

List,

Check out www.tpc.org, Oracle 8i occupies 6 out of 10 places in the TPC-C
OLTP (non clustered) category.

Oracle managed 2nd spot on IBM eServer pSeries with a bit over 220,000
transactions per minute (tpmC). 
IBM eServer pSeries 680 Model 7017-S85 

Number 1 spot is Fujitsu's SymfoWARE Server Enterprise Edition.
Fujitsu announced that SymfoWARE Server achieved the world best tmpC
(Transactions Per Minute C) result on a 4 Intel CPU 
based Fujitsu Teamserver. 
vist http://www.symfoware.com/server/overview.html#Server


Anyone using Symfoware? , or could enlighten us on its stability,
robustness, performance, etc. , seems pretty impressive 
reviewing the TPC-C results and the above URL.


Regards
Suhen
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advance backup & recover (RMAN?)

2001-06-12 Thread Rahul

> List, 
> one of our clients insists to isntall the "advance backup and recover
> option" of 
> oralce... (8.1.6) (it's written on the back of the CD, "CD includes
> advance backup and recovery") 
> 
> are they talking about the RMAN ? or something else ?
> 
> Regards
> 
> rahul
> 
> 
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RE: SMP/MPP and PQO

2001-06-12 Thread Shreter, Hilary



"In 
Search of Clusters" by Gregory F. Pfister, 2nd edition, Prentice-Hall (Saddle 
River, NJ) 1998 isbn 0-13-899709-8 and it is a wonderful 
book.
I wish 
there were other technical books like this.  The book is readable, 
fun, and excruciatingly technical all at the same time.

  -Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
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  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  SMP/MPP and PQO
  I 
  think it was just updated, too. 
   
  Great book.
  
-Original Message-From: Henry Poras 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 3:04 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
SMP/MPP and PQO
Lisa,
If 
you are interested in more detail on the differences between SMP, NUMA, and 
clusters, there is a great book "In search of clusters". It's one of the 
best technical books I've read. I can't remember the author's name, but 
maybe another list member can help. I picked it up because someone else on 
the list recomended it a while ago.
 
Henrh

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  ORACLE-LSubject: Re: SMP/MPP and 
  PQOHi Lisa 
          SMP - In 
  SMP many CPUs share the same memory. Typical example would be E450, 4 
  processors, 4GB memory. Only L2 cache in the CPUs need to be co-ordinated 
  when a memory buffer is changed or intended to change.         MPP - In MPP each CPU 
  has its own memory and its own disks that they control (typically). An 
  example would be nCUBE or IBM RS6000, where each processor runs its own OS 
  and messaging is used heavily to coordinate the access to the 
  resources.       
    NUMA - Nun -uniform memory access - Group of CPUs share the same 
  memory and the messaging is used between the group of the CPUs to 
  coordinate the access to the resource. An example would be Sequent NUMA-Q, 
  where there are multiple quads and each quad has 4 cpus and 2GB memory 
  (typically) and IQ-link coordinates the access to the resources between 
  the quads. HP has ccNUMA for this.         Now, I don't think, E10k domain would 
  qualify for a MPP, since there is no coordination or access restrictions 
  between the domains ( at least that I know of). Each domain can manipulate 
  its own disk / memory /devices without any messaging between the domains, 
  in a non-clustered environment.                 PQ architecture splits the FTS or long 
  running operations on non-partitioned tables, in to multiple chunks based 
  upon the rowid ranges. It is not a simple split though. First, work is 
  divided in to degree of parallelism. For example, if the QC process 
  determines that it has to scan 100,000 blocks and parallelism is 
  determined as 4 then 25000 would be the split. But not all 25000 block is 
  handed over to the slave processes. QC uses 9/13 rule. QC hands over 9/13 
  of the work (i.e. 25000 * 9/13=17307) blocks equally to the slave 
  processes. When the slave processes finishes up the 9/13 work, then they 
  get 3/13 of the work (25000 *3/13=5769) blocks and 1/13 of the work when 
  the second set of 3/13s are exhausted. This is done to evenly distribute 
  the load. For example, there could data skew such that one process could 
  finish up its 9/13 work much faster than other processes and hence those 
  processes can take up the rema! in! ! ing work.         The suitability of PQO 
  parallelism should be defined by IO sub system in conjunction with CPU 
  power. If you have many spindles in  2 cpu server my take on it would 
  be to use parallelism of 2 to4 depending upon the cpu clock speed, disk 
  speed, memory etc..     
      ThanksRiyaj 
  "Re-yas" ShamsudeenCertified Oracle DBAi2 technologies   
  www.i2.com 
  


  
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  Subject:        SMP/MPP and 
PQOHello everyone, 
  I was reading up on the differences 
  between SMP, MPP and how they may affect PQO (Parallel Query). 
  My understanding is that MPP is a host 
  with defined domains (like an e10k with virtual machines on it).  SMP 
  is a standalone host with no domains and multiple processors.  I am 
  not considering clustering here. 
  It seemed to me the only requirement 
  that you really need to run PQO is to have available resources to power 
  it.  For exam

advance backup & recover (RMAN?)

2001-06-12 Thread Rahul

List, 
one of our clients insists to isntall the "advance backup and recover
option" of 
oralce... (8.1.6) (it's written on the back of the CD, "CD includes advance
backup and recovery") 

are they talking about the RMAN ? or something else ?

Regards

rahul

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solaris - no utmpx entry !

2001-06-12 Thread Rahul

List,
we are suddenly getting "no utmpx entry" "you must exec login from the
lowest leve" 
message from solaris., when trying to connect using dumb terminals (or
console) ...

as our solaris guy is not available... i need some suggestions on how to
solve this..

* CANNOT log into any OTHER account also... 
* have tried switching off /on the server... did not work..

Regards
Rahul



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regarding indexes..

2001-06-12 Thread Saurabh Sharma



hi all,
 
how can we find whether we need to 
build more indexes other than primary keys.
 
how can we know about what all 
indexes are being accessed, and creating on which columns will help improve 
performance.
 
saurabh 


RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Peter McLarty

I don't know if that makes you an idiot, unless you hate the Scottish and 
there booze or the distillery has gone broke.


I could think of a lot of worse things to own a square foot of.


Peter McLarty


At 08:15 PM 12/06/2001 -0800, you wrote:
>Glenfiddich is very good, but I vote for Laphroaig from the Isle of Islay.
>Wanna know what an idiot I am?  A couple of years ago, Laphroaig gave away 1
>square foot of their distillery if you bought a bottle and filled out all
>the paperwork.  Well, I did it, and am the proud owner of 1 square foot of
>the Laphroaig distillery!
>
>Cheers!
>
>Jim
>
>^
>Jim Hawkins
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>
>Talking about single malt ..
>
>My vote goes to Glenfiddich ... anyone?
>
>Raj
>__
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RE: Why is db slow after analyze?

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

Oh, hehe I have a habit of just skiming things, get too many emails per day
:)

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
Oracle DBA
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I thought of the same thing. 
But how can this explain his statement "Bouncing the db brings things back
to normal" ? 

- Kirti Deshpande 
  Verizon Information Services
   http://www.superpages.com

> -Original Message-
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> Subject:  RE: Why is db slow after analyze?
> 
> If you analyze SYS/SYSTEM you will cripple the performance of the
> database, namely the table you mentioned and exports.
> Drop the statsistics as soon as possible off the SYS/SYSTEM objects.
>  
> This bug was suppose to be fixed in 8.1.7 and existed for some time, I am
> not sure if it ever got fixed as I have not tested lately.
>  
>  
> 
> "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
> both are frozen." 
> 
> Christopher R. Spence 
> Oracle DBA 
> Fuelspot 
> 
>   -Original Message-
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>   
>   
>   I ran dbms_stats.gather_database_stats( ); on a test machine with no
> other users.  After this, running a simple query on dba_extents was
> extremely slow.
>
>   Does anyone have an idea on what's the likely cause of this?  I'd
> like to check after gathering stats, but am not sure what to look at to
> verify why the simple query runs so, so slowly.  (Bouncing the db brings
> things back to normal, but doesn't help me understand what the holdup
> was.)
>
>   Thanks.
>
> 
>
> 
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RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Hawkins Family

Glenfiddich is very good, but I vote for Laphroaig from the Isle of Islay.
Wanna know what an idiot I am?  A couple of years ago, Laphroaig gave away 1
square foot of their distillery if you bought a bottle and filled out all
the paperwork.  Well, I did it, and am the proud owner of 1 square foot of
the Laphroaig distillery!

Cheers!

Jim

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Talking about single malt ..

My vote goes to Glenfiddich ... anyone?

Raj
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Email from PL/SQL

2001-06-12 Thread N J Neog
Title: RE: Changing Java pool size to 0



Hi all,
 
    Using  UTL_TCP 
(and thru other package like  utl_smtp)  I can send 
Email.
 
But the problem I find is - I can send mail 
in the name of someone else mail ID.
 
I would like to know from you - Why  PL/SQL 
allow me to send mail impersonating 
someone else Email ID. 
 
Where is the pitfall ? In PL/SQL or In Mail 
Server ?
 
TIA
 
Naba


Re: Why is db slow after analyze?

2001-06-12 Thread Greg Moore



>> Drop the statsistics as soon as possible off the 
SYS/SYSTEM objects.
 
When I do nothing more than bounce the db, two 
things happen.  The simple select on dba_extents immediately performs in 
less than a second (instead of 45 seconds).  Also, right after doing the 
dbms_stats.gather_database_stats, the query on dba_extents returned approx 3,400 
rows.  But after the bounce it's only returning approx 2,300 rows.  It 
appears that 1,000 extents went away.
 
I'm wondering if the problem is related to RBS's, 
and if an inefficient number or sizing of RBS's may be causing the high CPU 
usage.  
 
 
 

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Christopher 
  Spence 
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:15 
PM
  Subject: RE: Why is db slow after 
  analyze?
  
  If 
  you analyze SYS/SYSTEM you will cripple the performance of the database, 
  namely the table you mentioned and exports.
  Drop 
  the statsistics as soon as possible off the SYS/SYSTEM 
  objects.
   
  This 
  bug was suppose to be fixed in 8.1.7 and existed for some time, I am not sure 
  if it ever got fixed as I have not tested lately.
   
   
  "Walking on water and developing software from 
  a specification are easy if both are frozen." 
  Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot 
  
-Original Message-From: Greg Moore 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:41 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Why 
is db slow after analyze?
I ran dbms_stats.gather_database_stats( 
); on a test machine with no other users.  After this, running a simple query on dba_extents was 
extremely slow.
 
Does anyone have an idea on what's the likely 
cause of this?  I'd like to check after gathering stats, but am not 
sure what to look at to verify why the simple query runs so, so 
slowly.  (Bouncing the db brings things back to normal, but doesn't 
help me understand what the holdup was.)
 
Thanks.
 

  

   


RE: missing all control file

2001-06-12 Thread Sinardy Xing

I am the last one went home yesterday, so nobody aware of it ; )

Sinardy

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On Tuesday 12 June 2001 03:21, Sinardy Xing wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I accidentally rm all my control file, I forgot do
>   ALTER DATABASE BACKUP CONTROLFILE TO TRACE;

Glad to hear your database is now safe and sound.

Now let's hear a little about how you managed to 
remove all of your control files.

When you realized what happened, did you get that all 
over body buzz that indicates that you may be nearer
to death than you ever expected?  :)

Maybe we can offer some tips to help prevent that
kind of error in the future.

More importantly, do your user and/or boss know 
what happened?  :)

Jared
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RE: Removing Older version of Oracle on NT

2001-06-12 Thread Raymond Lee Meng Hong

Can I get a copy of the writeup on how to fully clean NT/Win2k of Oracle
Product ?

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Yea, this would be the easiest way. I could uninstall ALL Oracle products.
And reinstall 8i. Then I could rebuild the database etc etc.  I have a very
nice writeup on how to fully clean NT of Oracle products.I have used it more
than once. I might even have it electronically if anyone would like a copy.

However, in the interest of learning more about NT/Oracle, I wanted to JUST
remove 8.0 and all the 80 databases.  I tried Universal Installer and it
wouldn't give me an option to remove 8.0.

I'm gonna try to do it with all the information you all have provided and
see what happens.

Ken Hitchcox

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> Interesting problem, I think I faced this with 816 and 815 once.  I would
> think the easiest thing to do, if all that you are trying to do is get
some
> hd space back would be to delete the Oracle 8.0 service and all of it's
> files.  Messing with the registry might be a little difficult.  You could
> probably search through the registry and at the least you will be able to
> remove any reference to the 8.0 home.
> Question though, why don't you want to just reinstall?  Besides the
obvious
> that you can't, it would be a lot easier?
> Kev
>


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RE: Why is db slow after analyze?

2001-06-12 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

I thought of the same thing. 
But how can this explain his statement "Bouncing the db brings things back
to normal" ? 

- Kirti Deshpande 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Spence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:16 PM
> To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject:  RE: Why is db slow after analyze?
> 
> If you analyze SYS/SYSTEM you will cripple the performance of the
> database, namely the table you mentioned and exports.
> Drop the statsistics as soon as possible off the SYS/SYSTEM objects.
>  
> This bug was suppose to be fixed in 8.1.7 and existed for some time, I am
> not sure if it ever got fixed as I have not tested lately.
>  
>  
> 
> "Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
> both are frozen." 
> 
> Christopher R. Spence 
> Oracle DBA 
> Fuelspot 
> 
>   -Original Message-
>   From: Greg Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>   Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:41 PM
>   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>   Subject: Why is db slow after analyze?
>   
>   
>   I ran dbms_stats.gather_database_stats( ); on a test machine with no
> other users.  After this, running a simple query on dba_extents was
> extremely slow.
>
>   Does anyone have an idea on what's the likely cause of this?  I'd
> like to check after gathering stats, but am not sure what to look at to
> verify why the simple query runs so, so slowly.  (Bouncing the db brings
> things back to normal, but doesn't help me understand what the holdup
> was.)
>
>   Thanks.
>
> 
>
> 
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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

Last time I talked to them (6 months ago) it was Raid 5

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
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Paul,

They are RAID 4. And WAFL is their own proprietary system and you have very 
little control over allocation. You don't need to worry about it. (or so the

sales rep and engineer said)

Rachel


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>
>Kevin,
>
>I thought that those are actually RAID 4.
>You don't have any control over allocation on a NetApp box?
>Is that due to inherent limitations of the volume manager/file systems
>or due to implementation specific to your SysAdmins' biases?
>
>thanks,
>
>Paul
>
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:39 PM
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>
>
>New file system is out.   We are running on Net App Appliances containing a
>Raid 5 system on Solaris using Oracle 8.0.5.   Not the best environment but
>its what we have to work with.  So, hardware is out.
>
>As far as file system tuning .  Another no.  Its a Waffle system .
>basicly, write anywhere , so where you put the tables and indexes are prety
>much a moot point.
>
>So, we are down to runnig it at night.  Not the kind of suggestion I was
>looking for  but its the one I figured I would hear.
>
>Oh well.
>
>Thanks anyway.
>
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>
>
>buy a better i/o subsystem?  this should finish in single digit minutes, at
>worst.
>
>ok, can't do that?
>
>then
>
>tune the i/o system
>can't?
>ok, then partition the table/index to faster/more/different drives
>can't?
>ok, then run the analyze at night via cron
>can't
>ok, then screw it, it's not worth it.  ( just kidding )
>
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>Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:31 PM
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>
>
>Hi folks;
>  We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is the setup:
>The table is about 250 bytes wide.
>The table is normally 100,000 rows
>The table has grown to over 4,000,000 rows.
>There is one index on 1 column.
>We used the Compute Statistics options
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to complete
>and still generate worthwile statistics ??
>
>Thanks
>
>Kevin
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Re: Pin a CPU in Solaris

2001-06-12 Thread Don Granaman

I'm not sure of the context of this question, but I'll assume it isn't a
joke ;-)

I don't think this is what you are really asking, but I'll offer it up
anyway.  You can bind a particular process to a particular CPU in Solaris
with pbind.  It does not make for a very good simulation for the reasons
already noted.  If, for whatever reason, you want to stress a particular
CPU, you might try pbind'ing several intense processes to it.

Pbind is probably more useful for diagnostics though.  I recently had a
situation where we were encountering very sporadic "math errors" in one
select statement in a Pro*C program running in one 20-CPU domain on an E10K.
We isolated the problem to a hardware glitch in one particular CPU that was
returning erroneous results from one particular floating point operation -
by writing a simple Pro*C test program to loop through the select and then
pbind'ing it to each of the CPUs.  All but one passed, so we blacklisted
that CPU until we could get it replaced.  Hence -- "$ man pbind".  You will
need the process id and the CPU id.

-Don Granaman
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> Binding processes to CPUs is not at normal,
> even in high load situations.
>
> System scheduler ticks move even busy procs
> off CPUs, to go back through the run skedder.
>
> Yes, of course, the newer/better run scheduler
> are aware of register and CPU cache flush issues,
> but there is no guarantee a processor under the
> default scheduler will own a CPU. Not at all.
>
> Of course, I could be misunderstanding what you're
> trying to test. If you're trying to run a single
> CPU benchmark, then YES, you'd want to have ONE and
> ONLY ONE processor to run it...no context switches,
> no processor swaps...just b*lls to the wall performance.
>
> But that's not real life, and should not be proferred
> as a simulation of it.
>
> hth
>
> Hannibal
>
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>
> Does anyone know how to pin a Solaris CPU at a high utilization? I am
doing
> some testing and want to evaluate a system under a high CPU load. Thanks.
>
> Erik
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RE: Question about many Oracle Data Files

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

I agree 100% in what your saying, but I think saying "It is really bad to
drop tables randomly from production environment" would be a very similar
assesmment.  If your doing a checkpoint every 15 seconds with 1,000,000
datafiles over 3,500 tablespaces with 10k redo logs, well perhaps the
problem isn't the database.

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
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>I beg to differ with this persons assessment.
>
>Number of datafiles hardly effect performance in any noticable 
>manor.  This
>can be noted during checkpoint where high count of data files 
>check point
>with similar efficiency of low number.

Christopher,

It is not *only* the number of datafiles that affects performance - it is
the combination of number of log switches X number of files that is the
problem. A reduction in either of these two equals to a low percentage of
I/O for file header update vs actual, 'useful' I/O. A small set of redolog
files with a large number of files = disaster (which implements itself as
sudden occurences of 'database freeze')

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RE: Why is db slow after analyze?

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence



If you 
analyze SYS/SYSTEM you will cripple the performance of the database, namely the 
table you mentioned and exports.
Drop 
the statsistics as soon as possible off the SYS/SYSTEM 
objects.
 
This 
bug was suppose to be fixed in 8.1.7 and existed for some time, I am not sure if 
it ever got fixed as I have not tested lately.
 
 
"Walking on water and developing software from a 
specification are easy if both are frozen." 
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot 

  -Original Message-From: Greg Moore 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 9:41 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: Why 
  is db slow after analyze?
  I ran dbms_stats.gather_database_stats( 
  ); on a test machine with no other users.  After this, running a simple query on dba_extents was 
  extremely slow.
   
  Does anyone have an idea on what's the likely 
  cause of this?  I'd like to check after gathering stats, but am not sure 
  what to look at to verify why the simple query runs so, so slowly.  
  (Bouncing the db brings things back to normal, but doesn't help me understand 
  what the holdup was.)
   
  Thanks.
   
  

  
 


RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael

There is a Scottish bar in NYC (St. Andrews) with an REALLY nice selection 
of single malts. I can't remember the name of the Scotch now (it's one I'd 
never heard of before), but the waiter persuaded my friend and me to try it. 
it was a 25 year old single malt.

MAJOR YUM!I gotta go back there. Soon.


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>another *excellent* choice.
>
>if not Glendronach
>   Glenmorangie
>elsif not Glenmorangie
>   Glenfiddich
>elsif not Glenfiddich
>   Glenlivet
>elsif not Glenlivet
>   JW Black
>elsif not JW Black,
>   JW Red
><...>
>end if;
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>Talking about single malt ..
>
>My vote goes to Glenfiddich ... anyone?
>
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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Paul,

They are RAID 4. And WAFL is their own proprietary system and you have very 
little control over allocation. You don't need to worry about it. (or so the 
sales rep and engineer said)

Rachel


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>Kevin,
>
>I thought that those are actually RAID 4.
>You don't have any control over allocation on a NetApp box?
>Is that due to inherent limitations of the volume manager/file systems
>or due to implementation specific to your SysAdmins' biases?
>
>thanks,
>
>Paul
>
>
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>
>New file system is out.   We are running on Net App Appliances containing a
>Raid 5 system on Solaris using Oracle 8.0.5.   Not the best environment but
>its what we have to work with.  So, hardware is out.
>
>As far as file system tuning .  Another no.  Its a Waffle system .
>basicly, write anywhere , so where you put the tables and indexes are prety
>much a moot point.
>
>So, we are down to runnig it at night.  Not the kind of suggestion I was
>looking for  but its the one I figured I would hear.
>
>Oh well.
>
>Thanks anyway.
>
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>buy a better i/o subsystem?  this should finish in single digit minutes, at
>worst.
>
>ok, can't do that?
>
>then
>
>tune the i/o system
>can't?
>ok, then partition the table/index to faster/more/different drives
>can't?
>ok, then run the analyze at night via cron
>can't
>ok, then screw it, it's not worth it.  ( just kidding )
>
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>Hi folks;
>  We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is the setup:
>The table is about 250 bytes wide.
>The table is normally 100,000 rows
>The table has grown to over 4,000,000 rows.
>There is one index on 1 column.
>We used the Compute Statistics options
>
>Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to complete
>and still generate worthwile statistics ??
>
>Thanks
>
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Re: Why is db slow after analyze?

2001-06-12 Thread Greg Moore



Clarification on my gather_database_stats 
question:
 
While running the simple query on dba_extents, 
which should send data flying to the screen, but instead sends the result set in 
slow, small bursts, I noticed the Solaris CDE performance monitor graphs show 
CPU is pinned at 100% during the 45 seconds it takes to get the dba_extents data 
(which normally would come flying back in less than a second.)  None of the 
other performance monitors showed unusual activity.
 
Running the simple query (select segment_name from 
dba_extents) a second and third time produces the same results -- long run time, 
CPU pinned at 100%.
 
- Greg

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Greg Moore 
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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PM
  Subject: Why is db slow after 
  analyze?
  
  I ran dbms_stats.gather_database_stats( 
  ); on a test machine with no other users.  After this, running a simple query on dba_extents was 
  extremely slow.
   
  Does anyone have an idea on what's the likely 
  cause of this?  I'd like to check after gathering stats, but am not sure 
  what to look at to verify why the simple query runs so, so slowly.  
  (Bouncing the db brings things back to normal, but doesn't help me understand 
  what the holdup was.)
   
  Thanks.
   
  

  
 


Why is db slow after analyze?

2001-06-12 Thread Greg Moore



I ran dbms_stats.gather_database_stats( ); on 
a test machine with no other users.  After this, running a simple query on dba_extents was extremely 
slow.
 
Does anyone have an idea on what's the likely cause 
of this?  I'd like to check after gathering stats, but am not sure what to 
look at to verify why the simple query runs so, so slowly.  (Bouncing 
the db brings things back to normal, but doesn't help me understand what the 
holdup was.)
 
Thanks.
 

  

   


RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael

there's a bottle of that too on my shelf, Christmas present from my junior 
DBA. Tell me he doesn't know how to bribe his boss properly :)



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>Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 14:05:15 -0800
>
>The Macallan 12 year old
>Described by Paul Pacult, the renowned international whisky writer, in his
>book Kindred Spirits as: "simply the best 12 Year Old single malt around",
>The Macallan has justly reaped such critical acclaim. The secret of The
>Macallan lies in defiant adherence to traditional methods and ingredients.
>The continued use of finest Golden Promise barley and the insistence on oak
>sherry casks from Spain are just two of the pre-requisites for perfection.
>
>
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>Glenmorangie 12 year old oh yum
>
>
>
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> >On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:33, Thater, William wrote:
> > >
> > > single malt RULES!;-)
> >
> >Well, yeah, I like that too.
> >
> >I have some 16 yr old Lagavulin ( spelling? ) in the
> >pantry that is just awesome.  Fine smokey flavor from
> >aging in Oak Brandy barrels.  ( Or sherry, I'll have to check )
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

well i'm basing my statement on the docs(which isn't much i know) but as
soon as its on a platform i can use, i'll tets it out and let everyone
know for sure :)

joe
> Nick Wagner wrote:
> 
> Either way...  I tried it with 9.0.0.0.0 beta 3 and I got the normal
> DML to work just fine.  However I could not get the DDL to work.. I
> set the parameters just like the doc says, but all my DDL queries just
> seamed to go out to lunch on me...
> 
> My log files were very small for the testing...  5 MB files, and I
> only did 3 DDL statements...
> 
> anyone else have this problem.
> 
> Nick
> 
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> The question should be, "Can it undo DDL?"
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> Ian MacGregor
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> Can it redo DDL?
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> Alex Hillman
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> Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can
> get
> one more year worth of presentation out of it.
> 
> it tracks and displays DDL :)
> 
> useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)
> 
> So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
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RE: Question about many Oracle Data Files

2001-06-12 Thread John Kanagaraj

>I beg to differ with this persons assessment.
>
>Number of datafiles hardly effect performance in any noticable 
>manor.  This
>can be noted during checkpoint where high count of data files 
>check point
>with similar efficiency of low number.

Christopher,

It is not *only* the number of datafiles that affects performance - it is
the combination of number of log switches X number of files that is the
problem. A reduction in either of these two equals to a low percentage of
I/O for file header update vs actual, 'useful' I/O. A small set of redolog
files with a large number of files = disaster (which implements itself as
sudden occurences of 'database freeze')

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RE: check file size, extension question???

2001-06-12 Thread Ron Thomas


If you are using korn shell, then why spawn a new process to do this.  Try:

a="somefile.gz"
if [ "$a" != "${a%.gz}" ] ; then
  echo "this is a gz file"
elif [ "$a" != "${a%.z}" ] ; then
  echo "this is a z file"
else
  echo "I don't know"
fi

You could also do this...

a="somefile.gz"
SUFFIX=".${a#*\.}"
FILE="${a%$SUFFIX}"
echo "$a  $FILE  $SUFFIX"

Ron.



   
   
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Hi, all

I'm writing some auto backup/refresh script, do you
know any command that returns only size or extenstion
or a file? (there will be only one file in the
directory)

I know awk can return only a part of the output, but
somehow I cann't combine awk and ls -l successfully.
ls -s returns some size I don't want, I'd like to have
size as shown in ls -l.

For the refresh script, I like to check file
extension, so if it's in gz, I'll gunzip; if it's Z,
I'll uncompress.

Thanks!

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Oracle DBA Needed in Peoria, IL..

2001-06-12 Thread OraStaff

*Description:
Peoria, IL company needs an Oracle DBA  with Unix experience to join 
its' I.T. team.
This position  will have typical DBA responsibilities i.e.: physical
database design, 
installations,performance analysis, system tuning, backup, recovery, etc.

This is a full time staff position. No sub-contractors please.

* Requirements:
  - 3+ yrs Oracle DBA experience.
  - Unix
  - U.S. Citizenship or permanent residency

This position offers:
* Opportunity to become a key member of the team
* Compensation up to 70K.. D.O.E.
* Challenge
* Relocation Assistance

NO sub contracting positions available.

*U.S. citizenship or green card holders only

PLEASE do not send your resume if you are not in the
United States.

For  immediate consideration, please send your resume
as an attachment to:

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Please use job code: One/DBA/Peoria/Diane

Note: This is only one of the many opportunities that
we have available across the U.S. 
for candidates with Oracle skills who are U.S.
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So if this one is not a match for you, we invite you 
to send us your resume- as we quite possibly have the
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We pay referral fees.
So please contact me if you know of anyone who would
be qualified/interested
in the posiition described above- if it is not a match for
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RE: check file size, extension question???

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

I will beat Jared to this, What about using Perl?

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

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Hi, all

I'm writing some auto backup/refresh script, do you
know any command that returns only size or extenstion
or a file? (there will be only one file in the
directory)

I know awk can return only a part of the output, but
somehow I cann't combine awk and ls -l successfully. 
ls -s returns some size I don't want, I'd like to have
size as shown in ls -l.

For the refresh script, I like to check file
extension, so if it's in gz, I'll gunzip; if it's Z,
I'll uncompress.

Thanks!

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RE: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Nick Wagner
Title: RE: logminer in the 9i world, etc





Either way...  I tried it with 9.0.0.0.0 beta 3 and I got the normal DML to work just fine.  However I could not get the DDL to work.. I set the parameters just like the doc says, but all my DDL queries just seamed to go out to lunch on me...  

My log files were very small for the testing...  5 MB files, and I only did 3 DDL statements... 


anyone else have this problem.  


Nick 


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The question should be, "Can it undo DDL?"


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Can it redo DDL?


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Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can get 
one more year worth of presentation out of it.


it tracks and displays DDL :)



useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)



So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 



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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Gary Weber



Analyze estimate with 10% sample, alternatively analyze compute during 
off-hours, if possible. Most of my "million row" club tables get maintained only 
on weekends, or in pre-scheduled intervals. 
Gary WeberSenior DBACharles Jones, LLC609-530-1144, 
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Hi 
folks;
  
We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is the 
setup:
    The table is about 250 bytes wide.
    The table is normally 100,000 
rows
    The table has grown to over 4,000,000 
rows.
    There is one index on 1 column.
    We used the Compute Statistics 
options
 
Does 
anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to complete and still 
generate worthwile statistics ??
 
Thanks
 
Kevin


RE: apology

2001-06-12 Thread Weaver, Walt

I think it's the last thing Dan Quayle said before he lost his job as Vice
President.

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'The Soviet Union does not exist any more in its present format'.

What is that suppose to mean?  Just curious...

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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001,Thater, William scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
->well, i'm jealous.  i could use some.  my aunt died from breast cancer
over the weekend and the funerial was today.

oh damn, this was not supposed to go to the list.  i'm sorry for bothering
everyone with my personal stuff.  put it down to lack of single malt.;-)

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RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Mohan, Ross

another *excellent* choice. 

if not Glendronach 
Glenmorangie
elsif not Glenmorangie
Glenfiddich
elsif not Glenfiddich
Glenlivet
elsif not Glenlivet
JW Black
elsif not JW Black, 
JW Red
<...>
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Talking about single malt ..

My vote goes to Glenfiddich ... anyone?

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RE: Utl_Smtp trouble

2001-06-12 Thread Paul Drake

did you run caths.sql when you created the data dictionary?

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Hi,

I tried to send e-mail with Utl_Smtp package.

At the line  c := utl_smtp.open_connection('MySmtpServerAddress.com');
I always get the error message: " Service not available.Utl_Smtp line 
83.Utl_Smtp line 344"

What should be wrong?
I tried this at two different customers with 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 versions.

Both customers have internet through ethernet(intranet) connection.

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Greg Moore

> Adding some olive juice to the drink makes it 'dirty'.

In the version I heard about, a bartender makes a martini dirty by holding
your glass near the edge of the bar and running his hand over the bar once,
so that about ten drops of whatever happens to be there end up in your
drink.

I like your definition better.

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real-time scheduler in Solaris?

2001-06-12 Thread Austin, Steve S

Folks,

Does anyone know how to exploit the real-time scheduler in Solaris?  I can
only find vague references to this on the web.

We're considering using the real-time scheduler for Oracle background
processes on our busiest Solaris boxes (that support 2-3k connections).  We
want to make Unix bias the Oracle background processes for CPU, all other
things being equal.  We had some consultants suggesting our MTS config
wasn't getting the cycles it needed after we called into question their SQL
(which is too long a story for me to get into -- I'll begin ranting about
big consulting companies.  :)

Thanks,
Steve

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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hi Kevin,
 I use estimate stats with sample 30 percent with some of the large tables
(~ 60,000,000 rows). Generated stats are okay. It completes in about 2-3
hours (8.0.6 and 8.1.7 databases).  
 Have you considered estimating stats rather than computing? 

 HTH,

 Regards,

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> 
> Hi folks;
>   We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is the setup:
> The table is about 250 bytes wide.
> The table is normally 100,000 rows
> The table has grown to over 4,000,000 rows.
> There is one index on 1 column.
> We used the Compute Statistics options
>  
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to
> complete and still generate worthwile statistics ??
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Kevin
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check file size, extension question???

2001-06-12 Thread Andrea Oracle

Hi, all

I'm writing some auto backup/refresh script, do you
know any command that returns only size or extenstion
or a file? (there will be only one file in the
directory)

I know awk can return only a part of the output, but
somehow I cann't combine awk and ls -l successfully. 
ls -s returns some size I don't want, I'd like to have
size as shown in ls -l.

For the refresh script, I like to check file
extension, so if it's in gz, I'll gunzip; if it's Z,
I'll uncompress.

Thanks!

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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

Waffle file system goes by the theory of writing anywhere it pleases, it
also will not modify blocks directly unless there are no blocks available.
Saving them for doing snapshots and quick recovery.

NetApp uses Raid 5 pretty religiously, but has a write-back NVRAM that is
placed very early in the transaction process to speed response time.  If I
remember correctly it does not support Pre-fetch or any of the nicer EMC
features as such as that.

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Kevin,
 
I thought that those are actually RAID 4.
You don't have any control over allocation on a NetApp box?
Is that due to inherent limitations of the volume manager/file systems
or due to implementation specific to your SysAdmins' biases?
 
thanks,
 
Paul
 

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New file system is out.   We are running on Net App Appliances containing a
Raid 5 system on Solaris using Oracle 8.0.5.   Not the best environment but
its what we have to work with.  So, hardware is out.
 
As far as file system tuning .  Another no.  Its a Waffle system .
basicly, write anywhere , so where you put the tables and indexes are prety
much a moot point.  
 
So, we are down to runnig it at night.  Not the kind of suggestion I was
looking for  but its the one I figured I would hear. 
 
Oh well.
 
Thanks anyway.

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buy a better i/o subsystem?  this should finish in single digit minutes, at
worst.
 
ok, can't do that?
 
then
 
tune the i/o system
can't?
ok, then partition the table/index to faster/more/different drives
can't?
ok, then run the analyze at night via cron
can't 
ok, then screw it, it's not worth it.  ( just kidding )

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Hi folks;
  We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is the setup:
    The table is about 250 bytes wide.
    The table is normally 100,000 rows
    The table has grown to over 4,000,000 rows.
    There is one index on 1 column.
    We used the Compute Statistics options
 
Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to complete
and still generate worthwile statistics ??
 
Thanks
 
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

yes according to the docs.

joe
"Hillman, Alex" wrote:
> 
> Can it redo DDL?
> 
> Alex Hillman
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> Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can get
> one more year worth of presentation out of it.
> 
> it tracks and displays DDL :)
> 
> useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)
> 
> So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
> 
> Joe
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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Kevin Lange

I am hoping  that things might work.   This is one of our posibilities
tonite.   I have just always stayed clear of Estimating statistics.  But,
thanks for the numbers.  I will consider it.

Kevin

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Hi Kevin,
 I use estimate stats with sample 30 percent with some of the large tables
(~ 60,000,000 rows). Generated stats are okay. It completes in about 2-3
hours (8.0.6 and 8.1.7 databases).  
 Have you considered estimating stats rather than computing? 

 HTH,

 Regards,

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> Subject:  Forever running Analyze
> 
> Hi folks;
>   We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is the setup:
> The table is about 250 bytes wide.
> The table is normally 100,000 rows
> The table has grown to over 4,000,000 rows.
> There is one index on 1 column.
> We used the Compute Statistics options
>  
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to
> complete and still generate worthwile statistics ??
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Kevin
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RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Jamadagni, Rajendra

Talking about single malt ..

My vote goes to Glenfiddich ... anyone?

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RE: Question about many Oracle Data Files

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

I beg to differ with this persons assessment.

Number of datafiles hardly effect performance in any noticable manor.  This
can be noted during checkpoint where high count of data files check point
with similar efficiency of low number.

Granted, having 1000 128k data files wouldn't be efficient.  Reasonability
on creating datafiles has never posed performance problems I have noticed.

But in short, yes of course there will be some increased time at checkpoint
with more datafiles, it is only common sense, but the time it takes to
update the SCN in the header is so small in comparison of the time it takes
to write out the dirty blocks.

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

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All,

Awhile back, on the "other" list, there was a discussion regarding the
number of data files that an Oracle database might contain.  

Someone posted a warning that too many data files might actually hurt
performance in that it might inflate the amount of work to be done at SCN
update time.

How would I test this?  What "wait value" might be too high to indicate that
this is taking too long?

I am not having an immediate problem, but know of a group that might be.

thanks for any help

Tom Mercadante
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Re: OT - SSN( Enforced Constraints (sic) ??

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

except check out the ssn faq and alot of those numbers are not used.

joe

PS:  
http://www.faqs.org/faqs/privacy/ssn-faq/

Regina Harter wrote:
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> When the DMV first asked for my SSN, I gave them an incorrect one, because
> as far as I'm concerned they don't need to know it.  Now that they actually
> check the number with the SSA I was forced to correct it.  Most places are
> forbidden to require that you supply your SSN unless they need it to report
> taxable earnings.   I regularly refuse to supply mine.
> 
> At 10:58 AM 6/12/01 -0800, you wrote:
> >It's interesting that SSNs are not recycled.  My mother works for the SSA
> >and says they are after the person is deceased for a certain period of time
> >(I forget the specifics).  Also, a lot of people get nervous when you use
> >their SSN for an identifier.  I've noticed that most State Driver's Licenses
> >do not use the SSN at the license number anymore because people were getting
> >their identities stolen.  The same thing goes for having it printed
> >permanently on your checks.
> >
> >Let's calculate quickly on this one:
> >
> >250,000,000 million in the U.S. (Legal)
> >999,999,999 possible numbers (xxx-xx-)
> >-
> >equals mandatory recycling.
> >
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> >
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> >
> >  "The SSN is a unique identifier"
> >
> >  http://www.ssa.gov/oig/Testimony05222001.htm
> >
> >  SSN is a perfectly good PK for personnel systems.  If you find duplicates
> >  your employer certainly needs to know about it.
> >
> >  I once had a personnel database with 25 years of personnel data (about
> >  1,200,000 individuals).  When we loaded it into Oracle with the SSN as PK,
> >  there was one duplicate SSN.  Of course, that employer was very
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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence



if you 
cannot do the oracle "assessed estimate" of 3GB/hour then perhaps the IO system 
is in need of modification or replacement.
 
"Walking on water and developing software from a 
specification are easy if both are frozen." 
Christopher R. Spence Oracle DBA Fuelspot 

  -Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 6:05 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Forever running Analyze
  buy 
  a better i/o subsystem?  this should finish in single digit minutes, at 
  worst.
   
  ok, 
  can't do that?
   
  then
   
  tune 
  the i/o system
  can't?
  ok, 
  then partition the table/index to faster/more/different 
  drives
  can't?
  ok, 
  then run the analyze at night via cron
  can't 
  ok, 
  then screw it, it's not worth it.  ( just kidding )
  
-Original Message-From: Kevin Lange 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:31 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Forever running Analyze
Hi 
folks;
  We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here 
is the setup:
    The table is about 250 bytes 
wide.
    The table is normally 100,000 
rows
    The table has grown to over 4,000,000 
rows.
    There is one index on 1 
column.
    We used the Compute Statistics 
options
 
Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to 
complete and still generate worthwile statistics ??
 
Thanks
 
Kevin


RE: How to re-arrange the nullable columns

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

There are reasons of storage/performance that simply creating a view will
not address.


"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
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If its for application developers ease in INSERT etc. then how about
creating
a view which has columns in proper order?

-Rahul
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> Hi DBA's,
>
> Greetings...
>
> In some of application tables, i found not null columns are appeared at
the
> last.
>
> So, how can i re-arrange  by the way i can make the not null columns are
in
> the earliest of the table.
>
> Is the only way to re-create the tables accordingly, or any other best
> methods are there?.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards,
> Nirmal.
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Linda, yes list admin send her a prize :)

joe
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> Oh oh, wild guess  milliseconds?
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> yes, except that i'm one of those sick pups that reads the docs.
> 
> joe
> "Thater, William" wrote:
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> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2001,Joseph Testa scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
> >
> > ->Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can
> get
> > ->one more year worth of presentation out of it.
> > ->
> > ->it tracks and displays DDL :)
> > ->
> > ->
> > ->useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)
> > ->
> > ->
> > ->So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
> >
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RE: How to re-arrange the nullable columns

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

If a row takes more storage, wouldn't it be safe to say it is slower than
one of less storage?

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
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Yeah,

Perfomance wise there is no benefit(if yes pls correct me), But i read in
manuals as, if the not null columns were resided as a last column 
of a table, then it consumes more storage space then the other case. 

Any one have any suggestions regarding this issue

Regards,
Nirmal.


> -Original Message-
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> 
> It makes no difference in performance where the not null columns are
> placed. Why do you want to go to the headache of modifying the table
> structure for something so trivial?
> 
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/12/01 08:45AM >>>
> Hi DBA's,
> 
> Greetings...
> 
> In some of application tables, i found not null columns are appeared at
> the
> last. 
> 
> So, how can i re-arrange  by the way i can make the not null columns are
> in
> the earliest of the table.
> 
> Is the only way to re-create the tables accordingly, or any other best
> methods are there?.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
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Utl_Smtp trouble

2001-06-12 Thread Csillag Zsolt

Hi,

I tried to send e-mail with Utl_Smtp package.

At the line  c := utl_smtp.open_connection('MySmtpServerAddress.com');
I always get the error message: " Service not available.Utl_Smtp line 
83.Utl_Smtp line 344"

What should be wrong?
I tried this at two different customers with 8.1.6 and 8.1.7 versions.

Both customers have internet through ethernet(intranet) connection.

Thank you in advance.

Zsolt Csillag,
Hungary

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RE: OT - 9i DB for HP-UX Available On Technet

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

And what happens when HP gets out of the software market as they have stated
they intended on doing?

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

Christopher R. Spence
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At one point in time (96-98), I remember Digital Unix
(OSF) used to be the platform of choice for Oracle.

I recently had an interview at some place and the guy
was telling me that all the HA stuff comes out for HP
first since they're supposed to be a more reliable
platform than Sun.  It sounds like the intial release
platform might be changing to HP.

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RE: Job search on this list

2001-06-12 Thread Christopher Spence

I think you already have, so does it matter?

"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
both are frozen."

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All,

I hate interrupting all the scrumptious, gastronomic activity going on
today, but...

How much of a no-no is it to use this list to declare myself officially
almost-
unemployed and looking for work? The way I figure it is that if one does
this
regularly and uses this board as a free advertising forum, that would be
bad,
but to let everyone know that the writing is on the wall, in bold, and I'll
consider
all offers for food would be ok.

Since that's how I figure it, here goes:

   For rent or sale: one 15-year Oracle dba / engineer
   / architect, with certification. Market-rate to
   possibly pricey, communicates very well, and can
   (usually) make the database sing. For details,
   contact Yosi Greenfield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a
   LIMITED time!), or at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any offers of employment will be considered - possibly gasped at with a 
look of horror, but considered. Any offers of food will be queued until the
offers
of employment run out.

Ok y'all, really now, if anybody's got a need or a lead, lemme know.

MUCH thanks,

Yosi



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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

Paul, it didnt get picked up for the IOUG live 2001.

I've bored the local user group to death with logminer(as well as alot
of other people i'm sure).

I'll make sure you get you a copy of it in jul.

joe
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> 
> Joe,
> 
> I didn't get to see the advanced logminer presentation at IOUG-A.
> - is that one 201?
> - any chance of seeing it at your user group meeting in July?
> - does it exist in print anywhere?
> 
> Paul
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> Hey Joe,
>  Will that be Logminer 102 or 103 ?
> 
>  Do I need to bring Miner's uniform (the hat and all) ?
> 
>  Cheers!
> 
> - Kirti
> 
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> > Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can get
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RE: getting recursive error, any ideas?

2001-06-12 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

It's due to a trigger.   Unfortunately it looks very similar to the error I was 
getting on the trigger which recorded destructive DDL.  The corrected trigger code has 
been sent in another mail; a close cursor statment was placed incorrectly in the code. 
 Your statement is failing because the program is trying to close a cursor which was 
not opened.  The original mail did have warnings about the code not being thoroughly 
tested.   

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Hi all,
 I am getting following error while running this statement?
 any ideas where is it coming from?

 1* ALTER TABLE  corp.service_cat_rq ADD (location_ind CHAR(1)  DEFAULT 'Y')
SQL> /
ALTER TABLE  corp.service_cat_rq ADD (location_ind CHAR(1)  DEFAULT 'Y')
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-01001: invalid cursor
ORA-06512: at line 40

We are on 8.1.6.2. 64 bit on HP unix 11.0
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.2.0, 64 bit - Producti
PL/SQL Release 8.1.6.2.0 - Production
CORE8.1.6.0.0   Production
TNS for HPUX: Version 8.1.6.2.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.0.0.0 - Production

Thanks for your help.
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RE: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

The question should be, "Can it undo DDL?"

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Can it redo DDL?

Alex Hillman

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Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can get 
one more year worth of presentation out of it.

it tracks and displays DDL :)


useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)


So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 


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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

good question about the logminer version, its probably logminer 9i :)

bring the mining hat, batteries will be supplied :)

joe
"Deshpande, Kirti" wrote:
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> Hey Joe,
>  Will that be Logminer 102 or 103 ?
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>  Do I need to bring Miner's uniform (the hat and all) ?
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>  Cheers!
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> - Kirti
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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Paul Drake

Kevin,
 
I thought that those are actually RAID 4.
You don't have any control over allocation on a NetApp box?
Is that due to inherent limitations of the volume manager/file systems
or due to implementation specific to your SysAdmins' biases?
 
thanks,
 
Paul
 

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New file system is out.   We are running on Net App Appliances containing a
Raid 5 system on Solaris using Oracle 8.0.5.   Not the best environment but
its what we have to work with.  So, hardware is out.
 
As far as file system tuning .  Another no.  Its a Waffle system .
basicly, write anywhere , so where you put the tables and indexes are prety
much a moot point.  
 
So, we are down to runnig it at night.  Not the kind of suggestion I was
looking for  but its the one I figured I would hear. 
 
Oh well.
 
Thanks anyway.

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buy a better i/o subsystem?  this should finish in single digit minutes, at
worst.
 
ok, can't do that?
 
then
 
tune the i/o system
can't?
ok, then partition the table/index to faster/more/different drives
can't?
ok, then run the analyze at night via cron
can't 
ok, then screw it, it's not worth it.  ( just kidding )

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Hi folks;
  We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is the setup:
    The table is about 250 bytes wide.
    The table is normally 100,000 rows
    The table has grown to over 4,000,000 rows.
    There is one index on 1 column.
    We used the Compute Statistics options
 
Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to complete
and still generate worthwile statistics ??
 
Thanks
 
Kevin

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RE: apology

2001-06-12 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

LOL !!! 
Kwell and W would have made a fine team

- Kirti

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RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Wolfe, Charles

Macallan 18yr.

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Talking about single malt ..

My vote goes to Glenfiddich ... anyone?

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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Kevin Lange



New 
file system is out.   We are running on Net App Appliances containing 
a Raid 5 system on Solaris using Oracle 8.0.5.   Not the best 
environment but its what we have to work with.  So, hardware is 
out.
 
As far 
as file system tuning .  Another no.  Its a Waffle system . 
basicly, write anywhere , so where you put the tables and indexes are prety much 
a moot point.  
 
So, we 
are down to runnig it at night.  Not the kind of suggestion I was 
looking for  but its the one I figured I would hear. 
 
Oh 
well.
 
Thanks 
anyway.

  -Original Message-From: Mohan, Ross 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:05 
  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: 
  Forever running Analyze
  buy 
  a better i/o subsystem?  this should finish in single digit minutes, at 
  worst.
   
  ok, 
  can't do that?
   
  then
   
  tune 
  the i/o system
  can't?
  ok, 
  then partition the table/index to faster/more/different 
  drives
  can't?
  ok, 
  then run the analyze at night via cron
  can't 
  ok, 
  then screw it, it's not worth it.  ( just kidding )
  
-Original Message-From: Kevin Lange 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 5:31 
PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
Forever running Analyze
Hi 
folks;
  We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here 
is the setup:
    The table is about 250 bytes 
wide.
    The table is normally 100,000 
rows
    The table has grown to over 4,000,000 
rows.
    There is one index on 1 
column.
    We used the Compute Statistics 
options
 
Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to 
complete and still generate worthwile statistics ??
 
Thanks
 
Kevin


RE: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Seley, Linda

Oh oh, wild guess  milliseconds?

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yes, except that i'm one of those sick pups that reads the docs.

joe
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> On Tue, 12 Jun 2001,Joseph Testa scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
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> ->Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can
get
> ->one more year worth of presentation out of it.
> ->
> ->it tracks and displays DDL :)
> ->
> ->
> ->useless trivia question(i know the answer) :)
> ->
> ->
> ->So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
> 
> bored?;-)
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Job search on this list

2001-06-12 Thread Yosi

All,

I hate interrupting all the scrumptious, gastronomic activity going on
today, but...

How much of a no-no is it to use this list to declare myself officially
almost-
unemployed and looking for work? The way I figure it is that if one does
this
regularly and uses this board as a free advertising forum, that would be
bad,
but to let everyone know that the writing is on the wall, in bold, and I'll
consider
all offers for food would be ok.

Since that's how I figure it, here goes:

   For rent or sale: one 15-year Oracle dba / engineer
   / architect, with certification. Market-rate to
   possibly pricey, communicates very well, and can
   (usually) make the database sing. For details,
   contact Yosi Greenfield at [EMAIL PROTECTED] (for a
   LIMITED time!), or at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Any offers of employment will be considered - possibly gasped at with a 
look of horror, but considered. Any offers of food will be queued until the
offers
of employment run out.

Ok y'all, really now, if anybody's got a need or a lead, lemme know.

MUCH thanks,

Yosi



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RE: Digestive DBA Special

2001-06-12 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.
Title: RE: Digestive DBA Special



The 
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of  Admiral Nelson.  The wearing of brown pants  to hide a 
panicked bowel reaction is not.
 
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  Digestive DBA Special
  DBA Special?  Captain Morgan, 
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On Tuesday 12 June 2001 13:19, Rajaram 
wrote: > Did you say Bombay? BTW, what 
is "Bombay Sapphire dirty Martini" ? 
Bombay Sapphire Gin.  Very good, very 
smooth, very expensive. Martini and Rossi 
Extra Dry Vermouth. 
Pour Gin and Vermouth over ice, amount of 
vermouth differs according to 
taste. 
If you have a shaker, shake the drink with ice, 
then pour over 3 large spicy green 
olives. 
Adding some olive juice to the drink makes it 
'dirty'. 
Adding scotch to it makes it 'smoky'. 
We should come up with a 'DBA special' 
variation.  :0 
Jared 
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RE: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Paul Drake

Joe,

I didn't get to see the advanced logminer presentation at IOUG-A.
- is that one 201?
- any chance of seeing it at your user group meeting in July?
- does it exist in print anywhere?

Paul


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Hey Joe,
 Will that be Logminer 102 or 103 ? 

 Do I need to bring Miner's uniform (the hat and all) ? 
  
 Cheers!

- Kirti 

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CORRECTION To: Destructive SQL Trapping "Alter Table Drop Column"

2001-06-12 Thread MacGregor, Ian A.

In the trigger I posted I closed the "get_column_name" cursor at the wrong spot.  It 
worked beautifully for "drops", but
"adds" complained

Here is the corrected code
--
   pcolumn_name  dba_tab_columns.column_name%type;
   cursor get_column_name is
 select column_name from dba_tab_columns where
 owner = ora_dict_obj_owner and table_name = ora_dict_obj_name;
   sql_dummy varchar2(1);
   cursor is_drop_column is
select
  'x'
from
  sys.x$_kglpn  p, 
  sys.x$_kglcursor  c, 
  v$_session  s
where
  p.kglpnhdl = c.kglhdadr and
  p.kglpnses = s.saddr and
  instr(lower(replace(c.kglnaobj,' ', null)),'dropcolumn') > 0 and
  instr(lower(c.kglnaobj),'select') = 0 and
  s.audsid = sys_context('USERENV', 'SESSIONID');

Begin
   if (((ora_sysevent = 'DROP') and (ora_dict_obj_type = 'TABLE'))
   or ora_sysevent = 'TRUNCATE') and ora_dict_obj_owner != 'SYS' THEN
object_security.record_destructive_ddl(null);
   elsif ora_sysevent = 'ALTER' and ora_dict_obj_type = 'TABLE'
   and ora_dict_obj_owner != 'SYS' THEN
  open is_drop_column;
  fetch is_drop_column into sql_dummy;
  close is_drop_column;
  if sql_dummy = 'x' then
 open get_column_name;
 loop 
fetch get_column_name into pcolumn_name;
exit when get_column_name%notfound;
   if ora_is_drop_column(pcolumn_name) then
   object_security.record_destructive_ddl(pcolumn_name);
   end if;
 end loop;
 close get_column_name;
  end if;
end if;
end;
/



Warning I'm still testing this.

  

As far as wanting to know whether drop column was issued,  I don't want to loop 
through all the columns in the table
when a constraint is created, or a column is added, or a column is widened etc.  Yes, 
my thinking is that its better to check the SQL rather than calling the function 
needlessly.  But I have not done any performance testing.

I cannot think of any DDL which is issued against the sys owned tables after database 
create time, nor a reason for there to be.  At one time tables needed to support 
certain database options were owned by sys, but I don't think that's true anymore; I 
haven't installed every option.  If these premises are true, it is better to stop any 
DDL against a sys table than to record it, and that's a different trigger.  I will 
probably remove the exclusion on sys tables from the present trigger to see if any DDL 
against them is trapped before writing a trigger which prevents such DDL.

Ian MacGregor
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Column"




Thanks for posting this, I have a few questions. Why you need to look at the SQL
statement at all. You already know that the statement is ALTER TABLE, so why not
just check for dropped columns.

 if ora_dict_obj_type = 'TABLE' THEN
  if ora_dict_obj_type = 'ALTER' THEN
   for x in get_column_name loop
   if ora_is_drop_column (x.column_name) then
 object_security.record_destructive_ddl (x.column_name);
   end if;
   end loop;
  else
  ...



Is it a performance thing?  Is it  faster to retrieve  the SQL  all the time and
only check for dropped columns when you have to?
And Is that also the reason for excluding the SYS schema?

chaim







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CREATE  or replace TRIGGER record_destructive_ddl_trigger before drop or  alter
or truncate ON DATABASE
Declare
   pcolumn_name  dba_tab_columns.column_name%type;
   cursor get_column_name is
 select column_name from dba_tab_columns where
 owner = ora_dict_obj_owner and table_name = ora_dict_obj_name;
   sql_dummy varchar2(1);
   cursor is_drop_column is
select
  'x'
from
  sys.x$_kglpn  p,
  sys.x$_kglcursor  c,
  v$session  s
where
  p.kglpnhdl = c.kglhdadr and
  p.kglpnses = s.saddr and
   instr(lower(replace(c.kglnaobj,' ', null)),'select') = 0 and
  instr(lower(replace(c.kglnaobj,' ', null)),'dropcolumn') > 0 and
  s.audsid = sys_context('USERENV', 'SESSIONID');

Begin
   if (((ora_sysevent = 'DROP') and (ora_dict_obj_type = 'TABLE'))
   or ora_sysevent = 'TRUNCATE') and ora_dict_obj_owner != 'SYS' THEN
object_security.record_destructive_ddl(null);
   elsif ora_sysevent = 'ALTER' and ora_dict_obj_type = 'TABLE'
   and ora_dict_obj_owner != 'SYS' THEN
  open is_drop_column;
  fetch is_drop_column into sql_dummy;
  close

RE: OT - SSN( Enforced Constraints (sic) ??

2001-06-12 Thread Regina Harter

When the DMV first asked for my SSN, I gave them an incorrect one, because 
as far as I'm concerned they don't need to know it.  Now that they actually 
check the number with the SSA I was forced to correct it.  Most places are 
forbidden to require that you supply your SSN unless they need it to report 
taxable earnings.   I regularly refuse to supply mine.

At 10:58 AM 6/12/01 -0800, you wrote:
>It's interesting that SSNs are not recycled.  My mother works for the SSA
>and says they are after the person is deceased for a certain period of time
>(I forget the specifics).  Also, a lot of people get nervous when you use
>their SSN for an identifier.  I've noticed that most State Driver's Licenses
>do not use the SSN at the license number anymore because people were getting
>their identities stolen.  The same thing goes for having it printed
>permanently on your checks.
>
>Let's calculate quickly on this one:
>
>250,000,000 million in the U.S. (Legal)
>999,999,999 possible numbers (xxx-xx-)
>-
>equals mandatory recycling.
>
>--Michael
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>There is also a problem with SSNs, if you deal with Foreign nationals.
>We had that problem with a US Army program in Europe and Korea.
>We had to make up Unique numbers to fit the program.
>
>Georgette
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>SSN's are not recycled.
>
> >From the SSA OIG's testimony on SSN use and misuse before congress -
>
>  "The SSN is a unique identifier"
>
>  http://www.ssa.gov/oig/Testimony05222001.htm
>
>  SSN is a perfectly good PK for personnel systems.  If you find duplicates
>  your employer certainly needs to know about it.
>
>  I once had a personnel database with 25 years of personnel data (about
>  1,200,000 individuals).  When we loaded it into Oracle with the SSN as PK,
>  there was one duplicate SSN.  Of course, that employer was very
>  conscientious about requiring a valid SSN.
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Re: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Joseph S. Testa

yes, except that i'm one of those sick pups that reads the docs.

joe
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> 
> ->Well afetr reading the docs about logminer in version 9i, maybe i can get
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> ->
> ->it tracks and displays DDL :)
> ->
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> ->
> ->
> ->So what do you get with the new datatype:  timestamp 
> 
> bored?;-)
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RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Brian_McQuillan


On the subject of Scotch ...
As the only certified (that I know of) genuine born and bred Scotsman on
the list these days
(Originally from Glasgow Scotland, and now scraping a living as a
Development DBA in Minneapolis MN)

I have to say that they are all wonderful, you don't get a bad single malt
Scotch !

It's just that some are better than others :-)
and of them all, I have to agree with Jared, 16yr old Lagavullin is the
best.

If you don't like it too peaty , try Jura or Oban - I prefer them slightly
peatier.
another delightful one is Balvennie and another , Aberlour.
If you want something slightly sweeter, try Glengoyne or Glenturret.

They are all good.
Enjoy , or as we say

Slainte Mhath
Brian.





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Lagavulin??!?!  Yikes, Jared, I am going to
revoke my "Soul Brother" license from you.
Don't tell me you like "Laphroaig" as well?

That peaty sh*t should be used to clean road
tar off SUVs.

Now, if you're talking a fine Glendronach, you've
got my full attention.



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On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:33, Thater, William wrote:
>
> single malt RULES!;-)

Well, yeah, I like that too.

I have some 16 yr old Lagavulin ( spelling? ) in the
pantry that is just awesome.  Fine smokey flavor from
aging in Oak Brandy barrels.  ( Or sherry, I'll have to check )

Jared
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RE: logminer in the 9i world, etc

2001-06-12 Thread Deshpande, Kirti

Hey Joe,
 Will that be Logminer 102 or 103 ? 

 Do I need to bring Miner's uniform (the hat and all) ? 
  
 Cheers!

- Kirti 

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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Kevin Kostyszyn



Couldn't you try and estimate about 50% of it?  It's not as 
reliable, but it would probably work.
Kev

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  ORACLE-LSubject: Forever running Analyze
  Hi 
  folks;
    We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is 
  the setup:
      The table is about 250 bytes 
  wide.
      The table is normally 100,000 
  rows
      The table has grown to over 4,000,000 
  rows.
      There is one index on 1 column.
      We used the Compute Statistics 
  options
   
  Does 
  anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to complete and 
  still generate worthwile statistics ??
   
  Thanks
   
  Kevin


Re: SSN's

2001-06-12 Thread Brian_McQuillan


Careful about using 999 numbers , the IRS actually use these for non
resident taxpayers. (Spouses of H1- B visa holders etc)
For all you H1-B's out there, if your H4 other half can't get an SSN, then
they must have a
number from the INS called a TaxPayer ID number (TIN).

Otherwise the banks will withhold 36% of your interest for the IRS.
Also when you file your taxes at the end of the year, if your H4 spouse
does not have either a SSN or a TIN,
the IRS will not allow you to claim any allowances against your taxes for
them.

Brian.





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There are two people (or organizations) that you MUST give your SSN to.

Your employer - you can't work in the US without an SSN and your employer
must ensure that you have a valid SSN.

Your Bank - so the IRS can track any financial transactions.

Your employer cannot get in trouble for knowing your SSN.

I enjoyed the stories about someone getting checks and then the SSA gave
him a new SSN from someone who was "really" dead.  Someday I'll tell you
about my experiences wrangling frogs.

Foreign nationals are fun.  There is a 10 digit INS number for Green Card
holders - but they have no trouble getting an SSN if they're here to work
legitimately.  Generally, when dealing with people who do not have an SSN
you can make one up, just start it with "999-" since real SSNs don't go
that high.  Also, don't call it an SSN since those people may think that
they have been issued an SSN and really get themselves in trouble.

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getting recursive error, any ideas?

2001-06-12 Thread Naik, Sandesh S

Hi all,
 I am getting following error while running this statement?
 any ideas where is it coming from?

 1* ALTER TABLE  corp.service_cat_rq ADD (location_ind CHAR(1)  DEFAULT 'Y')
SQL> /
ALTER TABLE  corp.service_cat_rq ADD (location_ind CHAR(1)  DEFAULT 'Y')
*
ERROR at line 1:
ORA-00604: error occurred at recursive SQL level 1
ORA-01001: invalid cursor
ORA-06512: at line 40

We are on 8.1.6.2. 64 bit on HP unix 11.0
Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.6.2.0, 64 bit - Producti
PL/SQL Release 8.1.6.2.0 - Production
CORE8.1.6.0.0   Production
TNS for HPUX: Version 8.1.6.2.0 - Production
NLSRTL Version 3.4.0.0.0 - Production

Thanks for your help.
Sandesh
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RE: apology

2001-06-12 Thread lhoska

'The Soviet Union does not exist any more in its present format'.

What is that suppose to mean?  Just curious...

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On Tue, 12 Jun 2001,Thater, William scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
->well, i'm jealous.  i could use some.  my aunt died from breast cancer
over the weekend and the funerial was today.

oh damn, this was not supposed to go to the list.  i'm sorry for bothering
everyone with my personal stuff.  put it down to lack of single malt.;-)

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RE: Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Mohan, Ross



buy a 
better i/o subsystem?  this should finish in single digit minutes, at 
worst.
 
ok, 
can't do that?
 
then
 
tune 
the i/o system
can't?
ok, 
then partition the table/index to faster/more/different 
drives
can't?
ok, 
then run the analyze at night via cron
can't 

ok, 
then screw it, it's not worth it.  ( just kidding )

  -Original Message-From: Kevin Lange 
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  PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: 
  Forever running Analyze
  Hi 
  folks;
    We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is 
  the setup:
      The table is about 250 bytes 
  wide.
      The table is normally 100,000 
  rows
      The table has grown to over 4,000,000 
  rows.
      There is one index on 1 column.
      We used the Compute Statistics 
  options
   
  Does 
  anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to complete and 
  still generate worthwile statistics ??
   
  Thanks
   
  Kevin


RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Shaw, John B

The Macallan 12 year old
Described by Paul Pacult, the renowned international whisky writer, in his
book Kindred Spirits as: "simply the best 12 Year Old single malt around",
The Macallan has justly reaped such critical acclaim. The secret of The
Macallan lies in defiant adherence to traditional methods and ingredients.
The continued use of finest Golden Promise barley and the insistence on oak
sherry casks from Spain are just two of the pre-requisites for perfection.


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Glenmorangie 12 year old oh yum



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>On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:33, Thater, William wrote:
> >
> > single malt RULES!;-)
>
>Well, yeah, I like that too.
>
>I have some 16 yr old Lagavulin ( spelling? ) in the
>pantry that is just awesome.  Fine smokey flavor from
>aging in Oak Brandy barrels.  ( Or sherry, I'll have to check )
>
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RE: Enforced Costraints ??

2001-06-12 Thread Regina Harter

You know, no matter how many times I have been told that a certain value is 
unique, not null, and will never, ever change, and thus should be used as a 
primary key, there comes a time that someone decides they need to be 
changed, if only because they were entered wrong in the first place.

At 08:06 AM 6/12/01 -0800, you wrote:
>If user id is unique, not null, and never will be or will not change, then
>no need for surrogate or datetime.
>Surrogate keys are great because they are no hassle and easy.  They do not
>mutate 10 columns of a primary key into other tables everytime you have a
>relationship with them.  Although as someone brought up, sequences are nasty
>things, and they cause a few problems with indexes.
>
>"Walking on water and developing software from a specification are easy if
>both are frozen."
>
>Christopher R. Spence
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>
>
>
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>
>I have no real solid design experience, but in the current model that I am
>working on I created this table...
>
>  AUDIT DENIED LOGONS
>  
>| ADL Userid |
>| ADL DateTime   |
>||
>||
>  
>
>The two columns in the table are the PK.  I have been debating back and
>forth about this.  I wonder if I should remove ADL DateTime from the PK.
>Still debating.
>
>As for a surrogate key, it just didn't seem to need one.  Does it?  What
>for?
>
>At any rate, DBA stuff is easy compared to design work.  I find myself
>arguing about every single little detail, it's driving me nuts.
>
>Any thoughts or arguments or ideas?
>
>Many thanks.
>
>Chris
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>
>Well, here's one problem - there is no guarantee that Social Security Number
>will indeed be unique.  SS#'s are reassigned, just like phone numbers are.
>IMHO, surrogate keys are always a good idea.  Has anyone got an example of
>when a surrogate key is NOT a good idea?
>Lisa Koivu
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>In a DSS environment, it is a standard practice to create surrogate keys for
>
>primary key. I never had experience with this (having duplicates in PK).
>Perhaps a list member could tell what probs might arise.
>Rao
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>
>Not good enough ! According to various documents, you should add your own
>primary key (surrogate key), which also makes it easier to keep track of
>history and combine various sources. I agree with Lee: you should never
>implement a PK with non-unique values.
>Remco
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>DSS !
>
>
> > --
> > From: Robertson Lee - lerobe[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]
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> >
> > am I missing something here ?? Why would you ever need to be in that
> > situation (a table with non-unique values in a PK column) ?
> >
> > Apologies if this is a no-brainer.
> >
> > Lee
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
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> >
> >
> > i think the solution is to .
> >
> > (on a table with non-unique values in a PK candidate column)
> >
> > 1) create a non-unique index on the pk candidate colunm
> > 2) create the pk using enable novalidate clause
> >
> > this way the existing data will NOT checked for uniqueness, the constraint
>
> > will be "enforced" for the upcoming data only...
> >
> > Regards
> > Rahul
> >
> >
> > > > ---

RE: Help on Upgrade - I'm an idiot

2001-06-12 Thread Miller, Jay

That's what I ended up doing.  While I was struggling with it I was told by
my boss that the decision was made that we can't install the 8.1.6.3 patch
because we only have 8.1.6.2 in QA.  So I've killed the database entirely
(processes and files) and am now reinstalling 8.1.6 from the beginning to
redo the upgrade from the backup.

Sigh, late night ahead.



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There is always the ultimate last resort Jay.   If you can not stop the DB
any other way you can always kill all of its processes.   

This is not recommended as a way or normally stopping a DB, but I have used
it in the past when I was out of choices. 

After killing the processes, I brought the DB up a step at a time 
nomout, shutdown  mount , shutdown ...  open ... shutdown .  Then
finally opened it up.  I wanted to see how it faired on each step before I
commited anything.

You might give it a whirl if its your only alternative.

Kevin

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Jay:

You may have some semaphore stuff screwed up... (i'm not a UNIX Admin and I
don't play one on TV) I ran into this before too. We had to bounce the box
to fix the problem.

Kevin

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I'm doing a test upgrade from 8.0.4 to 8.1.6.3.  Finished the 8.1.6 upgrade.
Was about to do the patch installation when I was called into a meeting then
got 2 phone calls (this all kept happening during the upgrade also) and had
several people stop by.  Finally got back to it, started the patch
installation and soon realized that I hadn't shut the database down before
doing so.  I immediately stopped to patchset installation and tried to shut
down the database but I get the following errors:

$ svrmgrl

Oracle Server Manager Release 3.1.6.0.0 - Production
Copyright (c) 1997, 1999, Oracle Corporation.  All Rights Reserved.

ORA-03113: end-of-file on communication channel
SVRMGR> connect internal
Password:

Is there anything I can do or do I need to restore from backup and start the
whole procedure from scratch?



2nd question:  Is it possible to do the patch install and then do the
upgrade?  The patchset instructions imply not, but there's a technical forum
response that implies you can.  Which is it?
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apology

2001-06-12 Thread Thater, William

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001,Thater, William scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:
->well, i'm jealous.  i could use some.  my aunt died from breast cancer over the 
weekend and the funerial was today.

oh damn, this was not supposed to go to the list.  i'm sorry for bothering everyone 
with my personal stuff.  put it down to lack of single malt.;-)

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Re: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Rachel Carmichael

Glenmorangie 12 year old oh yum



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>
>On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:33, Thater, William wrote:
> >
> > single malt RULES!;-)
>
>Well, yeah, I like that too.
>
>I have some 16 yr old Lagavulin ( spelling? ) in the
>pantry that is just awesome.  Fine smokey flavor from
>aging in Oak Brandy barrels.  ( Or sherry, I'll have to check )
>
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Forever running Analyze

2001-06-12 Thread Kevin Lange



Hi 
folks;
  
We have an Analyze running that is taking forever.  Here is the 
setup:
    The table is about 250 bytes wide.
    The table is normally 100,000 
rows
    The table has grown to over 4,000,000 
rows.
    There is one index on 1 column.
    We used the Compute Statistics 
options
 
Does 
anyone have any suggestions on how we can get this analyze to complete and still 
generate worthwile statistics ??
 
Thanks
 
Kevin


RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Jack C. Applewhite

Jared,

I'm shocked, SHOCKED that you would spoil the excellent tast of Bombay
Saphire with Vermouth and/or water (via melting ice).  Maybe an olive or two
(or three) for color, as long as they're well drained.  Save the Vermouth
and olive juice for the cheap stuff!8^)

My personal DBA Special is a "Mexican Martini", straight Hornitos tequila
with 2 or 3 (or 4) slices of Jalapeno - guaranteed to clear your mind and
sinuses!  Again, hold the salt, lime, ice and other "pollutants" - save them
for the rather bland tequilas such as Cuervo.

Jack


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On Tuesday 12 June 2001 13:19, Rajaram wrote:
> Did you say Bombay? BTW, what is "Bombay Sapphire dirty Martini" ?

Bombay Sapphire Gin.  Very good, very smooth, very expensive.
Martini and Rossi Extra Dry Vermouth.

Pour Gin and Vermouth over ice, amount of vermouth differs
according to taste.

If you have a shaker, shake the drink with ice, then pour
over 3 large spicy green olives.

Adding some olive juice to the drink makes it 'dirty'.

Adding scotch to it makes it 'smoky'.

We should come up with a 'DBA special' variation.  :0

Jared

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RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Mohan, Ross

Lagavulin??!?!  Yikes, Jared, I am going to
revoke my "Soul Brother" license from you. 
Don't tell me you like "Laphroaig" as well?

That peaty sh*t should be used to clean road
tar off SUVs. 

Now, if you're talking a fine Glendronach, you've
got my full attention. 



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On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:33, Thater, William wrote:
>
> single malt RULES!;-)

Well, yeah, I like that too.

I have some 16 yr old Lagavulin ( spelling? ) in the
pantry that is just awesome.  Fine smokey flavor from
aging in Oak Brandy barrels.  ( Or sherry, I'll have to check )

Jared
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Re: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread DENISE

A dirty martini has a bit of the liquid from the jar of olives poured into the 
glass.

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RE: Ora-600 : Internal error code.. Help!!!

2001-06-12 Thread Kevin Lange
Title: RE: Ora-600 : Internal error code.. Help!!!



Lisa;
  
According to their web site:


  
  

 
 
 
 
  

  
 
 
 
 
 
  
Unal Bilisim is an organization which is 
  specialized in Oracle Database. It's located in Adana/Turkey.  
  Unal Bilisim applies and believes in Deductive Business 
  Management philosophy.  This management philosophy is the 
  management method of internet age.  It makes products and services 
  centralized, reduces costs, broadens customer scope. So, products and 
  services of Unal Bilisim will be internet-based. Products will be run on 
  internet, services will be delivered over internet.  
  

  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
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  Ora-600 : Internal error code.. Help!!!
  OK.  What is unal-bilisim, it 
  sounds like it's kinda disgusting.  But what do I know.  
  
-Original Message- From:   Kevin 
Lange [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent:   Tuesday, June 
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There is a web site, http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/iorabugfinder/iorabugfinder.html, 
that lets you upload your trace file and 
it will give you links to  any relavant info it can find on the subject.   You might want to try 
it. 
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DBA's 
I am getting following error in alert.log once in 
two days. 
on Jun 11 09:26:11 2001 Errors in file /export/home/u01/app/oracle/admin/orcl/udump/orcl_ora_6342.trc: 
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: 
[12333], [111], [108], [44], [], [], [], 
[] Mon Jun 11 09:49:04 2001 
LGWR: prodding the archiver 
The DB is 8.1.5 on Solaris 7. 
When I referered to metalink, it says there could 
be some problem with the network in OS 
level. I am not sure how to track the error or where to look 
for this in the OS. 
Could some one help me in finding the cause of 
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RE: Digestive Martinis

2001-06-12 Thread Wolfe, Charles
Title: RE: Digestive Martinis



Bombay 
Sapphire, dash of good blended Scotch, ice, shake, pour, add twist of 
lemon zest, wave bottle of vermouth in front of finished martini. 


  -Original Message-From: Koivu, Lisa 
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  Digestive Martinis
  Bombay Sapphire, splash of olive 
  juice and a few green olives.  
  MM Does the job REAL fast. 
  
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Did you say Bombay? BTW, what is "Bombay Sapphire 
dirty Martini" ? 
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Digestive 
How about a Bombay Sapphire dirty Martini, 
straight up, spicy olives? 
Yum. 
Jared 
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RE: Digestive DBA Special

2001-06-12 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Digestive DBA Special





DBA Special?  Captain Morgan, after the story I heard on this list years ago about the pirate that wore a red shirt so his men couldn't see he was bleeding, and chose special times to wear his brown pants.  There have been a few times in my short tenure as a dba when the brown pants were absolutely necessary. 

Captain is my fav, he improves my golf game and my balance in general :)




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On Tuesday 12 June 2001 13:19, Rajaram wrote:
> Did you say Bombay? BTW, what is "Bombay Sapphire dirty Martini" ?


Bombay Sapphire Gin.  Very good, very smooth, very expensive.
Martini and Rossi Extra Dry Vermouth.


Pour Gin and Vermouth over ice, amount of vermouth differs
according to taste.


If you have a shaker, shake the drink with ice, then pour
over 3 large spicy green olives.


Adding some olive juice to the drink makes it 'dirty'.


Adding scotch to it makes it 'smoky'.


We should come up with a 'DBA special' variation.  :0


Jared




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> How about a Bombay Sapphire dirty Martini, straight up,
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> Yum.
>
> Jared
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Re: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread DENISE

If you are doing gins, try Junipero gin while in San Francisco.  Most 
excellent.

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RE: SMP/MPP and PQO

2001-06-12 Thread Mohan, Ross



I 
think it was just updated, too. 
 
Great 
book.

  -Original Message-From: Henry Poras 
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  SMP/MPP and PQO
  Lisa,
  If 
  you are interested in more detail on the differences between SMP, NUMA, and 
  clusters, there is a great book "In search of clusters". It's one of the best 
  technical books I've read. I can't remember the author's name, but maybe 
  another list member can help. I picked it up because someone else on the list 
  recomended it a while ago.
   
  Henrh
  
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PQOHi Lisa 
        SMP - In 
SMP many CPUs share the same memory. Typical example would be E450, 4 
processors, 4GB memory. Only L2 cache in the CPUs need to be co-ordinated 
when a memory buffer is changed or intended to change.         MPP - In MPP each CPU has 
its own memory and its own disks that they control (typically). An example 
would be nCUBE or IBM RS6000, where each processor runs its own OS and 
messaging is used heavily to coordinate the access to the resources. 
        NUMA - Nun 
-uniform memory access - Group of CPUs share the same memory and the 
messaging is used between the group of the CPUs to coordinate the access to 
the resource. An example would be Sequent NUMA-Q, where there are multiple 
quads and each quad has 4 cpus and 2GB memory (typically) and IQ-link 
coordinates the access to the resources between the quads. HP has ccNUMA for 
this.       
  Now, I don't think, E10k domain would qualify for a MPP, since there 
is no coordination or access restrictions between the domains ( at least 
that I know of). Each domain can manipulate its own disk / memory /devices 
without any messaging between the domains, in a non-clustered 
environment.       
          
PQ architecture splits the FTS or long running operations on non-partitioned 
tables, in to multiple chunks based upon the rowid ranges. It is not a 
simple split though. First, work is divided in to degree of parallelism. For 
example, if the QC process determines that it has to scan 100,000 blocks and 
parallelism is determined as 4 then 25000 would be the split. But not all 
25000 block is handed over to the slave processes. QC uses 9/13 rule. QC 
hands over 9/13 of the work (i.e. 25000 * 9/13=17307) blocks equally to the 
slave processes. When the slave processes finishes up the 9/13 work, then 
they get 3/13 of the work (25000 *3/13=5769) blocks and 1/13 of the work 
when the second set of 3/13s are exhausted. This is done to evenly 
distribute the load. For example, there could data skew such that one 
process could finish up its 9/13 work much faster than other processes and 
hence those processes can take up the rema! in! ! ing work. 
        The 
suitability of PQO parallelism should be defined by IO sub system in 
conjunction with CPU power. If you have many spindles in  2 cpu server 
my take on it would be to use parallelism of 2 to4 depending upon the cpu 
clock speed, disk speed, memory etc..         ThanksRiyaj "Re-yas" ShamsudeenCertified Oracle DBAi2 
technologies   www.i2.com 

  
  

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    Subject:        SMP/MPP and 
  PQOHello everyone, 
I was reading up on the differences 
between SMP, MPP and how they may affect PQO (Parallel Query). 
My understanding is that MPP is a host 
with defined domains (like an e10k with virtual machines on it).  SMP 
is a standalone host with no domains and multiple processors.  I am not 
considering clustering here. 
It seemed to me the only requirement 
that you really need to run PQO is to have available resources to power it. 
 For example, a little 2-cpu box that is pinned a majority of the time 
is only going to suffer if PQO is turned on.  However, if we had a 
16-cpu box with abundant resources, turning on PQO would help fts and large 
index scans in a dw-type environment.  (At least this is what I saw in 
the past).   
Also, I was taught that PQO should not 
be used when a table/index is not partitioned.  However, upon reading 
the doco, it states that the slaves split up work by blocks (or was it 
extents?).  Seems to me this could cause more problems than it's worth 
(i/o contention?) and partitioning, if done ca

Re: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Thater, William

On Tue, 12 Jun 2001,Jared Still scribbled on the wall in glitter crayon:

->On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:33, Thater, William wrote:
->>
->> single malt RULES!;-)
->
->Well, yeah, I like that too.
->
->I have some 16 yr old Lagavulin ( spelling? ) in the
->pantry that is just awesome.  Fine smokey flavor from
->aging in Oak Brandy barrels.  ( Or sherry, I'll have to check )
->
->Jared
->
well, i'm jealous.  i could use some.  my aunt died from breast cancer over the 
weekend and the funerial was today.

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RE: Pin a CPU in Solaris

2001-06-12 Thread Mohan, Ross

Binding processes to CPUs is not at normal, 
even in high load situations. 

System scheduler ticks move even busy procs
off CPUs, to go back through the run skedder. 

Yes, of course, the newer/better run scheduler
are aware of register and CPU cache flush issues, 
but there is no guarantee a processor under the
default scheduler will own a CPU. Not at all. 

Of course, I could be misunderstanding what you're
trying to test. If you're trying to run a single
CPU benchmark, then YES, you'd want to have ONE and
ONLY ONE processor to run it...no context switches, 
no processor swaps...just b*lls to the wall performance. 

But that's not real life, and should not be proferred
as a simulation of it. 

hth

Hannibal

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Does anyone know how to pin a Solaris CPU at a high utilization? I am doing
some testing and want to evaluate a system under a high CPU load. Thanks.

Erik


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RE: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Mohan, Ross

Drink with the President's kids, and it's "Jenna Tonic".


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LOL,

May I be more specific:

SET ORACLE-L JIN&TONIC

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Re: Digestive

2001-06-12 Thread Jared Still

On Tuesday 12 June 2001 12:33, Thater, William wrote:
>
> single malt RULES!;-)

Well, yeah, I like that too.

I have some 16 yr old Lagavulin ( spelling? ) in the
pantry that is just awesome.  Fine smokey flavor from
aging in Oak Brandy barrels.  ( Or sherry, I'll have to check )

Jared
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RE: Ora-600 : Internal error code.. Help!!!

2001-06-12 Thread Koivu, Lisa
Title: RE: Ora-600 : Internal error code.. Help!!!





OK.  What is unal-bilisim, it sounds like it's kinda disgusting.  But what do I know.  


-Original Message-
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There is a web site,
http://www.unal-bilisim.com/products/iorabugfinder/iorabugfinder.html, that
lets you upload your trace file and it will give you links to  any relavant
info it can find on the subject.   You might want to try it.


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DBA's


I am getting following error in alert.log once in two days.


on Jun 11 09:26:11 2001
Errors in file
/export/home/u01/app/oracle/admin/orcl/udump/orcl_ora_6342.trc:
ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [12333], [111], [108], [44], [],
[], [], []
Mon Jun 11 09:49:04 2001
LGWR: prodding the archiver


The DB is 8.1.5 on Solaris 7.


When I referered to metalink, it says there could be some problem with the
network in OS level. I am not sure how to track the error or where to look
for this in the OS. 


Could some one help me in finding the cause of this problem?


Thanks


Raj
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